[Goanet]VP, Oscar to attend Pope's funeral
April 04, 2005 Rediff Vice-President Bhairon Singh Shekhawat and Union Minister of State for Statistics and Programme Implementation Oscar Fernandes will represent India at the funeral of Pope John Paul II, who died on Saturday. --- Carlos
[Goanet]Re: Cardinals
Winnie, I think there are only 5 Cardinals and approx 149 bishops in India. Ivan Cardinal Dias - Archbishop of Bombay - Age 68 Varley Cardinal Vithayathil - Archbishop of Ernakulam - 77 Telesphore Cardinal Toppo - Archbishop of Ranch - 65 Simon Cardinal Pimenta - Archbishop Emeritius of Bombay - 85 Simon Cardinal Lourdusamy - Based in Rome - 81 Only 3 Cardinals from India (below age 80) are eligible to vote for the new Pope. Regards, Carlos
[Goanet]POLITICS: WHAT SHOULD THE PEOPLE DO? - By Ben Antao
WHAT SHOULD THE PEOPLE DO? For Goan Christians, particularly, the BJP should be like a red flag to the bull but no! Mathany Saldanha will not see it that way for hes been so outraged and disgusted with the craven Congress and his own buy-sell, opportunistic UGDP that hed rather sell his soul to the assassins of the Mahatma and still make poixe. BY BEN ANTAO. WHAT SHOULD the citizen do? Dr. Francisco Colaco of Margaos Lok Shakti has forwarded his views. Id tell him and others not to despair, not to yield to the temptation of the grave, but to think with logic and act with purpose to change the currently corrupt and communal political environment in the state of Goa. Its true that distance lends perspective to the view for I can see clearly from Toronto the solutions to the problems of clean governance in Goa. Now before you jump to dismiss me as overly optimistic, carefully consider the following: Since in a democracy the people are supreme, they must ensure that the politicians they elect to form the government are people of integrity, those burning with passion to serve the needs of the people. Because the power of the people is vested in the politicians, the people must only vote for candidates who will guarantee, for example, that the civil service works efficiently and on time. No citizens should have to pay for any service for which they have already paid through their taxes. Corruption It so happens that the system of government all over India today is rigged with corruption. Even after 57 years of independence, a citizen cannot get anything done unless he knows somebody in the government department or unless hes prepared to bribe. Goa, too, is now in the loop of this crooked system, 43 years after freedom from the Portuguese rule. What can the Goan citizen do to change this culture of corruption? I say make the politicians accountable and, if necessary, change them. But how can I do that? The politicians have their vote-banks, you say. Okay, lets look at the history of vote banks and see how the determined citizen can outfox them. I read recently that in any election held in Goa in the past 20 years the vote bank contributed 90 percent of the votes cast and ensured the candidates win. But interestingly enough, the vote banks represented only 27 percent of all the votes cast. How can a candidate win with a sure 27 percent of the vote, you ask? Easy. If less than 54 percent of the registered voters exercise their right to vote in an election, the candidate with the vote bank (bought with money, drugs, drinks, chicken, sex, scooters and other staples that make life sussegad in Goa) is laughing his head off while gambling in his newly built mansion. Now the voter turnout in the last 20 years has been estimated at a high of 42 percent to a low of 30 percent. That is, more than 50 percent or half the eligible voters are staying away from the polling booth, saying shee-shee, Im not going to vote for that goonda. This is why the same defective and defected politicians get elected! As I listen to Goans complain about the dirty games played by elected politicians, I ask them why they dont do something to change it. What can be done? Theyre all crooks. Its a hopeless case, I hear. When I reply that they should vote for decent and honest individuals, Im told: What for? Theyll never get elected because they have no money. You need money, crores of it, to win elections in Goa. Whoa! The reader has heard all this before, for sure. And yet, the attitudes of apathy, cynicism, despair, and wringing of hands will not change the political culture, a culture unworthy of Goans. What will change is this. The people must do the following: At election time, whether at panchayat, zilla parishad, municipal council, or assembly level, at least 90 percent of the registered voters must come out and vote. Seek out, nominate and vote in honest individuals (not aligned to any national parties like the Congress or BJP) to the panchayats and see that panchayat rule is conducted in a fair manner, in the best interest of the village community, with no hanky-panky of bribery and other influence. This may seem tough in the beginning, but a beginning has to be made. Here is the test of democracy at the grassroots level. If the local sons are away in the Gulf, the women should take up the slack and participate in the panchayat elections. Dont yield to apathy and who-cares attitude. Dont dwell on the caste distinctions but work together with all the people, for the good of the village. If you live in the city, get involved in the municipal elections. Support and encourage good people to run for civic elections, people with no overt or covert ties to corrupt political parties. Concentrate on the issues of traffic and parking in the cities of Margao, Vasco, Panjim and Mapusa. Take a serious look at garbage disposal, water supply and sanitation in the
[Goanet]Re: CLOSE ENCOUNTER with POPE JOHN PAUL II
Vince,
This is what I came across in. I also went on in other directions as the
other links will suggest.
venantius
I found an explantion to your cheerful query on addressing Cardinals by
their first name followed by Cardinals and Surname - on a blog. The blog is
pretty wacked out and it shows in nature of the material that is posted
(hence I attached the link after the text culled from the site). It figures
about 3-4 pages down. So those of you who do not wish to go to the blog,
simply skip it.
Cardinals: I've often wondered why Cardinals have their title between the
first and last name, as in John Cardinal O'Connor. I find it annoying.
Well, this Wikipedia explanation makes sense (though it's still a little
annoying):
For cardinals, use {name if known} Cardinal {surname}]]. For example,
Giuseppe Cardinal Siri not Cardinal Guiseppe Siri This format avoids
problems associated with historical cardinals whose first names have long
since been forgotten; they can be entered as Cardinal {surname} and
adapted later if and when their first name has been unearthed. It also has
the benefit of keeping the cardinal surname together for search purposes.
This is the format officially used by the Roman Catholic Church to refer to
its cardinals. Since Vatican II, an alternative version, placing the word
'Cardinal' before the first name has grown in popularity. However as the
great majority of cardinals predate this change, that format would require
a complete change in all cardinal titles before 1965 and is impractical.
http://www.stephankinsella.com/archive/2004_11_01_archive.php
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ORIGINAL MEANING of Cardinal, etc. Very Interesting!
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/0b.htm
http://www.catholiccaribbean.org/siteadmin/uploads/5/cardinals_of_the_catholic_
church.htm
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http://www.deskdemon.com/pages/uk/events/formsofaddress
The proper way to address a Cardinal on an envelope is as follows:
His Eminence, John Cardinal Jones,
Archbishop of _ _ _ _ _
Address goes here
In other situations refer to above link.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01137a.htm
Cardinals
In writing to an Italian cardinal, the letter should begin with the words,
Most Reverend Eminence (Eminenza Revma.); if he should be of a princely
family, Most Illustrious and Reverend Eminence. In the body of the letter
itself he should always be addressed in the third person and as Your
Eminence, or His Eminence, and the letter should end: Embracing the
purple of His Most Reverend Eminence, I am His Eminence's very humble and
obedient servant. This is an adaptation of the more complicated Italian
formula, Prostrato al bacio della sacra porpora, ho l'onore di confermarmi
dell' Eminenza Vostra Rev'ma dev'mo ed oss'mo servo. The Cardinal's
address, as written on the envelope, must be repeated at the left-hand
lower corner of the first page of the letter, and this must be done in all
letters of this kind, being intended to show that there has been no mistake
made in the address.
http://encarta.msn.com/text_761553595__1/Cardinal_(title).html
They enjoy extraordinary privileges and honors and are addressed as
Eminence, usually either His Eminence or Your Eminence, or lord
cardinal. They wear a distinctive scarlet dress and a red cap, or biretta,
that is placed on their heads by the pope. The use of the galero, or large,
tasseled, red hat, given to them in public consistory, was discarded by
decree of the pope in 1969. Cardinals in charge of Sacred Congregations,
tribunals, or offices enjoy an income from the papal treasury. Cardinals
frequently act as the pope's representatives upon delicate missions; for
the duration of such missions they are called legati a latere.
These link sare also very interesting.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bibleprophecy/catholic.html
http://www.catholic-ew.org.uk/pope/conclave.htm#cardinals
Archbishop Lefebvre Preparing the Council (1959-1962)
http://www.sspx.ca/Angelus/2002_May/Archbishop.htm
This one is BIZZARE! List of 125 Masonic Priests, Bishops, Cardinals in
Vatican and Italy. TRUE or FALSE who knows?
http://www.catholicbook.com/catholicbook/56.htm
COULD ANYBODY ALSO TELL ME WHY WE ADDRESS CARDINALS AS
1. VALERIAN CARDINAL GRACIAS
2. IVAN CARDINAL DIAS
(THE FIRST NAME FOLLOWED BY CARDINAL AND THEN THE SURNAME)
CHEERS - VINCE
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New York, NY 10032-4527
USA
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[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - April 4, 2005!
Prayatana pormonnem Dev boll dita. (God gives strength in proportion to the strain.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Dabolim
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The INS Hansa Naval air station here is the Navy's premier air base. But with only one fly-worthy Russian Ilyushin-38 and finances constraining the Navy to a limited upgrade of eight Tupolev-142s, the Navy has upped dependence on a far less capable aircraft, the Dornier-228, for maritime patrolling. P.S. Now you know why the Navy will not reliquish Goa's Dabolim to the Goans. We should take them to the Supreme Court and have them kicked out. Sooner the better. I understand the Dorniers are manufactured at HAL in Bangalore. See my article currently published (draft - more info awaited) at http://www.colaco.net/1/GdeFdabolim1.htm Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Job Opportunities in Dubai
Hi, Vacancy exists as follows in Dubai - U.A.E. in a Construction Co. 1. Electrical Engineer - 1 no. ( UAE experienced ) 2. Accountant - should be on Dubai Visit Visa 3. Auto Electrician Mechanics. 4. Plumbers 5. Civil Supervisor 6. Civil Foremen Interested candidates may send their bio-data to The Personnel Dept., P.O. Box 38400, Dubai - U.A.E. Thanks, Mrs. Fernandes Dubai
Re: [Goanet]Re: Outside the group
--- Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally would agree with the view that when it comes to marriage, Indians in general (and this includes all castes and creeds) are among the most prejudiced of all people. Even using the examples Fred gives (Gujrati with Punjabi etc.), there are very few people who marry outside their own group, usually their own little sub-caste. I quite agree to a point. The issues faced by Fijians of Indian descent prove it - the not-so-past political incidents in Fiji was as a result of Indians not mixing freely and identifying themselves with the local population even generations after their settlement. A recent documentary described a situation when a mistake was made in the maternity ward in Fiji, with the Indian child going to a Fijian couple, and a Fijian child to the Indian couple - the child with the Indian couple and the Indian mother were ostracised by the rest of the clan for obvious reasons. I don't know how these situations are in Surinam - there is a sizeable Indian population there. On the other hand, I have been told by a Brazilian girl that her great grand-father was a Goan who was married to an Ethiopian. Whether this is true or not I have no means to prove. Also, there is at least one Goan family who has had African ancestors. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Goa. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]CARDINALS
Hi, Many of them do not know how many cardinals are there in India and the No. of Bishops...in India can anyone say the exact no. Thanks, Ferns
[Goanet]Pope's body lies in state
Pope's body lies in state In text of homily, cardinal describes pontiff as John Paul the Great Gianni Giansanti / Pool via Getty Images Cardinals and bishops pray by the body of Pope John Paul II in Clementine Hall on Sunday. MSNBC staff and news service reports Updated: 2:25 p.m. ET April 3, 2005 VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul IIs body lay in state at the Vaticans Apostolic Palace on Sunday, is body dressed in crimson vestments, his head covered with a white bishops miter. The powerful image broadcast by Vatican television gave the world its first glimpse of the late pontiff since his last public appearance Wednesday. John Paul died Saturday evening at 84 after suffering heart and kidney failure following two hospitalizations in as many months. The Vatican released the pontiffs official death certificate Sunday, saying he died of septic shock and an irreversible cardio-circulatory collapse and listing the ailments he suffered from, including acknowledging officially that the pope had Parkinsons disease. In the Apostolic Palaces Clementine Hall, two Swiss guards stood at attention on either side of the popes body, which was placed in front of a fireplace adorned with the Vatican coat of arms, a crucifix standing to one side and an ornate candle burning on the other. 'Soul is shocked' Earlier on Sunday, Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, celebrated a Mass for the repose of the pope's soul on the steps of St. Peter's Basilica, calling on the people gathered there to pray for our beloved John Paul. Police said about 80,000 people attended Mass, with about 20,000 more spilling into the surrounding boulevards. The written text of Sodano's homily called the late pope John Paul the Great, a title usually designated for popes worthy of sainthood, such as Gregory the Great and Leo the Great. But Sodano didn't use the title when he delivered the homily, and there was no explanation. Applause rang out when Sodano, dressed in golden vestments, prayed for the pope's soul at the start of the Mass. We entrust with confidence to the risen Christ, Lord of life and history, our beloved John Paul II who for 27 years guided the universal church as the successor of Peter, he said. Applause rang out again during his homily, when he said: It's true. Our soul is shocked by a painful event: Our father and pastor, John Paul II, has left us. However ... he has always invited us to look to Christ, the only reason for our hope. He said John Paul had died serenely. Click for related stories Vatican Watch: Continual updates NBC: Leaders pay tribute, the faithful grieve Citizen Journalists: In memoriam Golden pillows In Clementine Hall, John Pauls head rested on several golden pillows, and a rosary was placed in his folded hands. His pastoral staff was tucked under his left arm. His feet were clad in soft brown leather shoes the same kind of shoes he almost always wore even in major ceremonies. The hall is a large, 17th-century salon covered by frescoes and located near the papal apartment where John Paul died. He often used the hall for audiences with world leaders. A colossal chandelier with a green patina hangs from the center of the rounded ceiling, which includes images of angels reaching for the Holy Spirit represented as a white dove. Prelates and Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi were among those who stood in line to pay their respects. John Pauls longtime personal secretary, Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, sat in prayer in a pew and then greeted prelates and dignitaries. At times he was seen wiping tears from his eyes. The top Vatican officials in attendance included the close papal aide Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, American Cardinal Edmund Szoka, Polish nuns and the pontiffs personal doctor. Cardinal Camillo Ruini, the late popes vicar for Rome, prayed on his knees by the popes body. The Vatican Swiss Guards also lined up to pay their respects, removing their plumed helmets before kneeling and praying before the popes body. A message and prayers were read in Latin by the Vatican camerlengo, or chamberlain, Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo of Spain. With the reverent pilgrimage in front of his remains, we thank God for the good that through him was given to his church, and we implore his mercy for the faults that our pastor has committed due to human weakness. We beg the Lord to welcome him into his kingdom and to grant him the prize for the trials that he endured for the Gospel, he said. The viewing was carried live on Italys other television stations. courtesy: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3305285/?GT1=6428 - Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com/
[Goanet]BEFORE JOHN PAUL II HE WAS KAROL!!
On May 18, 1920, Karol and Emilia Wojtyla welcomed the arrival of their second son and named him Karol Jozef. The family lived in Wadowice, a small town just south of Krakow where Catholics and Jews lived side by side. When Karol was 8, he lost his mother. Three years later, his older brother also died. Portrait of the Pope as a Young Man Karol grew up to excel in academics and athletics. When the Nazis invaded Poland in 1939, he was studying literature and philosophy in Krakow and exploring a passion for theater. After the Germans shut down his university, he saw his professors rounded up--some deported, others executed--and Poland's Jews sent off to death camps. Auschwitz was less than 50 miles away. Karol took a job as a stonecutter, but then personal tragedy struck again: his father died in 1941. Karol Sr.'s last wish was that his son become a priest, and Karol soon began training at an underground seminary in Krakow--secretly, since the Nazis had outlawed religious study. From 1944 until the end of World War II, he had to lie low to escape the notice of the Germans, who had begun rounding up Polish men. From these experiences, Karol became convinced that moral purity is best attained through suffering. Later in life, when addressing arguments that priestly celibacy should be relaxed, or that other dimensions of Catholic life should be made less difficult, Wojtyla would return to the idea that some things in life are supposed to be hard. On-the-Job Training Once Karol entered the Catholic church, his rise through the hierarchy was steady. He was ordained in 1946 and continued to study, earning doctorates in theology and philosophy. He became a bishop in 1958, archbishop in 1963, cardinal in 1967. A priest in the Polish church faced plenty of obstacles. When the Germans were thrown out of Poland at the end of World War II, the Communists took over, and the new regime was every bit as authoritarian as the old--and even more hostile to religion. A rising star, Karol grew proficient in the difficult balancing act of resisting the government's periodic crackdowns on religion without inviting even harsher reprisals. The great turning point in his career came at the Second Vatican Council (1962- 65). The young church leader from Krakow, relatively unknown outside his native land, attracted attention by arguing forcefully that the church should explicitly condemn anti-Semitism and officially reject the view that Jews are responsible for Jesus's death. All Roads Lead to Rome When Pope John Paul I died in 1978 after only 34 days in office, Cardinal Wojtyla traveled to Rome to help elect a successor. On the eighth ballot, his peers elected him to lead their church. He was the first non-Italian pope in more than 400 years and the first Slavic pope ever. At age 58, he was also the youngest pope in generations. In 1981, he was shot twice by a Turk named Mehmet Ali Agca. He recovered within months, and resumed his arduous schedule. He even went to his assailant's prison and forgave the man who tried to murder him. Throughout his papacy, John Paul was a traveling man. In the past quarter of a century, he made more than 100 trips outside Italy. Plenty of people traveled to him, too. The Vatican estimates that 17 million pilgrims traveled to St. Peter's Basilica in Rome to see John Paul over the years. Many will return in the coming days to say goodbye.
[Goanet]Dabolim
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=67731 Funds, dipping force levels stagnate Navy SHIV AROOR Posted online: Monday, April 04, 2005 at 0158 hours IST DABOLIM (GOA), APRIL 3: For all its efforts to project a blue water capability, the Indian Navy's maritime surveillance and anti-submarine warfare capabilities stagnate, with no comprehensive solution emerging for the massive coastal areas of jurisdiction on both seaboards. And while the Navy says its capabilities match its threat perceptions, Naval aviation officers here are worried about the dipping force levels. The INS Hansa Naval air station here is the Navy's premier air base. But with only one fly-worthy Russian Ilyushin-38 and finances constraining the Navy to a limited upgrade of eight Tupolev-142s, the Navy has upped dependence on a far less capable aircraft, the Dornier-228, for maritime patrolling. Tuesday's government approval for the purchase of 11 more Dorniers, while welcome to INS Hansa, is perceived as a stop-gap before definite delays for a more holistic solution like mid-life upgrades of existing force levels, or a potential American P-3C Orion fleet. With the torpedo and anti-ship capable Ilyushin-38 almost out of action and the Tupolev-142 (which can carry depth charges and bombs) entering a limited upgrade phase, the Navy's aerial anti-submarine warfare capability rests entirely with a fleet of Kamov-28 ASW choppers. Naval Sea King helicopters, crippled six years ago by US sanctions, are now expected to slowly make a comeback with ''some of the spare parts'' trickling in from the export market though Sea Kings are also old and a full replacement is on the cards. Two Ilyushin-38s are currently being upgraded in Russia, but the upgrade itself has caused worries for the Navy. The upgraded aircraft will replace those that crashed in 2002. The Arakonam-based Tupolev-142 strategic long-range maritime patrol planes are now of a particular vintage and Russia's unwillingness to participate in a tripartite mid-life upgrade with Israel has compelled the Navy to look into a relatively inadequate limited upgrade. Significantly, the Navy has identified 20 to 30 systems and major sub-systems that need to be changed immediately on the Tu-142, though delays in getting those systems together could increase downtime. ''We would love to have a mid-life upgrade, but we need finances. So for now we'll have a limited upgrade'' an officer said, about the Tupolev-142s. Navy to upgrade 14 Sea Harriers NEW DELHI: There's good news for the Navy's Goa-based INAS 300 (White Tigers) Sea Harrier squadron. Earlier this week, the Government approved a complete upgradation of 14 of its 22 Sea Harriers, after a meeting of the Cabinet Committee on Security. The vertical take-off Sea Harriers, bought from the UK in the early 1980s, will soon be upgraded by complementing their Matra Magic II missiles with Israeli Rafael Derby beyond visual air combat missiles, its Ferranti Blue Fox radar will be replaced with an Israeli Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode pulse doppler fire control radar, and the platform will be fitted with a brand new avionics and mission capability suite. The Navy feels the upgrade will push the Harriers to live beyond their mothership, the INS Viraat, which retires in 2008. ENS -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England P.S. Now you know why the Navy will not reliquish Goa's Dabolim to the Goans. We should take them to the Supreme Court and have them kicked out. Sooner the better.
[Goanet]Cardinals...
To Vincy's query, Wikipedia (where else?): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_%28Catholicism%29 Since 1630, cardinals have taken the style Eminence, and upon elevation the word Cardinal becomes part of the prelate's name, coming immediately before the surname. As an example, the full style of Cardinal Pell is His Eminence, George Cardinal Pell, Archbishop of Sydney. A prelate is a member of the clergy having a special canonical jurisdiction over a territory or a group of people; usually, a prelate is a bishop. Prelate sometimes refers to the clergy of a state church with a formal hierarchy, and suggests that the prelate enjoys legal privileges and power as a result of clerical status. The word derives from Latin pr?latus, the past participle of pr?ferre, to prefer; it suggests that the prelate has been raised to his dignity by the act of a superior hierarch. _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
[Goanet]Studies of John Paul II's papacy
A lot of good things have been said about the tenure of Pope John Paul II. Are there any interesting links to critical studies of the impact of his papacy, given his conservative politics and shifting away from earlier trends like Vatican II? The book 'God's Politician' by David Willey was an impressive read many years back. But others have critiqued Willey, including for some factual errors he makes in his book. It's a difficult subject to get a good piece on, given that there are strong lobbies on either side -- both hagiographers of the incumbent, and also those with competing religious or ideological persuasions out to prove the contrary. FN _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
[Goanet]Re: Re: Kuwait Tiatrist - Zoro.
LINO DOURADO(ji)...Song was rendered by Zoroster Coelho in the fourth annual Konkani One Act Play Competition in Kuwait which was held on January 28th 2005. The competition was org. by United Club of Utorda. The name of the song CHUK. Mogan, Lino Dourado FRANCIS(ji): It is said that no matter how long a log stays in the water, it doesn't become a crocodile. We forgive those who are fast catching the Azheimer's disease. Francis de Verna Hon. President, KGTS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Francisji (KGTS)/Lino Dourado(ji) (UCU), xabas! Corrective input is required to straighten the facts. Cecil Pinto would have termed it as a hawk's eye. Reminds me of Mark Twain, the American humorist whose quote goes thus: A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes. (In this case, distorting the names of organizations on a regular basis and it's no coincidence it happens often). Francisji, your absolution and forgiveness due to Alzheimer's reason made me laugh! My observations from the postings makes me think it's a sure case of Dementia a hidden problem or alternatively it could be the regular 'CHUK' symptoms (this time it was less than 61 days). Appears to be a rather serious case, indeed. Nevertheless, you know it well that the spread of a virus of forgetfullness is rather the sum of nirdukai (jealousy) minus nothing else plus Goan's trademark of nossai (envy). To know more about a recent case study in Goa on Dimentia and related 'stigmatised conditions', please refer to: http://www.alz.co.uk/1066/research/qualitative/goa.html Lino Dourado(ji), hope you found yet another subject to continue your laugh-a-riot in your weekly Aitaracheo Kaskuleo within this episode! Indeed your posting was equivalent of the regular dose of Aitaracheo Kaskuleo (although posted a day or two earlier). I understand that Bosco D'Mello (of Goanet) has been laughing every week reading it on Sundays ever since! Zoro Coelho (of KGTS) has that unique fan following among the tiatr audience in Kuwait. This is very visible and audible when he is called 'encore' more than once, for every song, every time he goes on stage. Khorench! Keep it up Zoro. Oxench zaum, zalear pur'ro. AlmeidaG(ji) http://www.goa-world.com/goa/about_goa/ Upcoming Events in Kuwait: AVC presents Red Black Nite 7 April Faker Eldin Palace UFC presents Konkani Drama Noora 8 April Hawalli AC Hall GWS presents May Ball 2005 12 May Safir Palace Hotel Pick of the day: http://www.mangalorean.com Thomas Stephens Konkani Kendr http://www.tskk.org/ The Goan Forum http://www.colaco.net/ Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.goa-world.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
Re: [Goanet]CLOSE ENCOUNTER with POPE JOHN PAUL II
Earlier this writer as a child also chanced to have a close look almost at arms length to see Pope John Paul the VI when he came to Mumbai (now Bombay) on 2nd December 1964 for the International Eucharistic Congress held at the Oval Maidan in Mumbai (then Bombay ) from 2nd December to 5th December 1964 . The especially erected altar was the venue where the huge multitude had gathered while late Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Bombay, a native of Telaulim in Navelim Salcete Goa did the honours on the ocassion. This Pope (John Paul VI) travelled in an open limousine (there were no terrorists fears in TWO CORRECTIONS : 1. IT WAS POPE PAUL VI AND NOT POPE JOHN PAUL VI. 2. OVAL MAIDAN IN BOMBAY (NOW MUMBAI) AS A CHILD I ALSO HEARD OF A STORY ABOUT A PHOTOGRAPHER WH0 WAS KILLED WHILE FILMING THE POPE'S TOUR OF BOMBAY - AND HOW THE POPE WENT TO THE PHOTOGRAPHERS HOUSE TO MEET HIS WIDOW AND CONSOLE HER. COULD ANYBODY ALSO TELL ME WHY WE ADDRESS CARDINALS AS 1. VALERIAN CARDINAL GRACIAS 2. IVAN CARDINAL DIAS (THE FIRST NAME FOLLOWED BY CARDINAL AND THEN THE SURNAME) CHEERS - VINCE
Re: [Goanet]EK DON TIN KHAPRI AGUSTIN!
Greetings from Portugal, Silviano. You wrote: « Ek don tin - hampri Agustin
('Augostinho' for Jorge and Figueiredo-types)». About this, let me first of
all tell you that your title ... KHAPRI AGUSTIN is correct, while ...
HAMPRI Agustin (in the text) is not. Secondly, for types like Figueiredo
(Gabriel, I suppose) and me, it is not Augostinho but Agostinho (in the
Portuguese language, that is). - Now on a different note, I am eager to read
your book The Sixth
Night. Do you remember that Fernando do Rego purchased from you a copy for
me while you were in Goa? Well, he hasn't yet found an opportunity to send
it across, so it is
still lying with him in Fontainhas, Ponnje. - Best regards. - Jorge (Oeiras,
Portugal)
- Original Message -
From: Silviano Barbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet]EK DON TIN KHAPRI AGUSTIN!
Arre who can forget to remember those ditties in our younger days?
(Don't worry about their political correctness)
Here goes
1)
Ek don tin - hampri Agustin ('Augostinho' for Jorge and Figueiredo-types)
Char panch sou, cheddvank mellonaim ghou,
Sat att nou, Divalleche fou
Dha ikra bara, Tumi soglim vochat ghara!
2) Ar yo, mar yo, pauss zhodot yo!
Then we used to run barefeet to the nearest mango-tree with our 100 meter
dash before the padd-poddlolo dukor gulps the ambli. Then the second
option
would be to run to the chinch to collect chinche-bottam. Avois so sweet
and
sour and those chinchare , we use to munch and munch and our brain became
bondder and that's why we are here today.
3) What about that nice brownish-yellow munsrad (ok is that babush
monserrati guys?) which was carved by that lofor of a crow, called
chan-kotor?)
4) And how about that mhar-pauss?
What's mhar-pauss anyway? Hope that pauss also has no caste like mahar. Or
is that rain from Spain instead?
5) And how about those paper boats that went sailing in the Monsoon gogo
of
a Dush-sagar? Which we would find next day near aula?
6) Nowadsys so many politicians die and we get national holidays. Those
days, Salazar was healthiest person alive. And we would only hope for a
local Tsunami when all the bunds were overflown and our professora could
not
wade through and arrive at our aula(Now sounsar fuim paula?)
[Goanet]RE: CLOSE ENCOUNTER with POPE JOHN PAUL II
Earlier this writer as a child also chanced to have a close look almost at arms length to see Pope John Paul the VI when he came to Mumbai (now Bombay) on 2nd December 1964 for the International Eucharistic Congress held at the Oval Maidan in Mumbai (then Bombay ) from 2nd December to 5th December 1964 . The especially erected altar was the venue where the huge multitude had gathered while late Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Bombay, a native of Telaulim in Navelim Salcete Goa did the honours on the ocassion. Godfrej, Not, John Paul the Vl. Just Paul the Vl, followed by John XXlll and the two John Pauls. I was also present in Bombay as well as at all the functions in Goa. Erasmo, Inocencio Monteiro and the young clloector of Goa, Shakti (?) had done a fine job of organizing the mega event. AdeT.
[Goanet]Goa: World Heritage Day
Goa: World Heritage Day Daijiworld News Network Panaji, Apr 2: World Heritage Day was observed here on March 30 in the form of a special musical programme by Goa Doordarshan in collaboration with Kala Academy. The programme was inaugurated by Bal Bhavan director Vijayalaxmi Devi Rane. Also seen from left are Goa Doordarshan director Bharti Gokhale, Kala Academy member-secretary Dr Pandurang Faldesai and Goa Konkani Academy president Pundalik Naik. The second pic show traditional Goan 'Goff' dance being performed. The programme began with 'Ganesh Manvandana' Naach Sobhann dance troupe from Mangalore performing to the vocals of Mandd Sobhann PHOTOS @ http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=10720n_tit=Goa%3A+% 27World+Heritage+Day%27+in+Pics+%2D+by+Rajtilak+Naik
[Goanet]AJMAN: Goan Cultural Festival - April 1st 2005
The Goan Cultural Festival - transforms the Ajman Beach Resort into a 'Mini Goa' Daijiworld News Network - Dubai Ajman, April 2: The much awaited, and anticipated event not only Goans but also other communities were looking forward to was the Goan Cultural Fest which was organised by Roopali and Chris on the cool shores of the Ajman beach Resort. It was unbelievable to watch people come out of their houses on a lazy Friday evening when most of them want to relax in the confines of their homes. It definitely shows the love for the Goan culture and superb organisation of all the past events which people want to witness again and again. The evening which started at around 6.30 p.m. was scarce in the beginning but it was amazing to see the momemtum warming up as more and more people walked in to a practically housefull crowd in the end. The arrangements were simply beyond words Perfect, flawless and just Excellent in every way. The delicious food served buffet style was a spread of a variety of dishes where everyone could have their fill. The Goan community is said to be a generous and fun loving community and surely everyone could feel the warmth of their hospitality and generosity during this Fest. The Chief Organisers of the show, Chris de Souza and Rupali have really put in their best efforts to ensure the success of this show. The band in attendance True Colours made sure that every one got their feet on their floor with their booming numbers. The dance competition for elders indeed put the judges into a dilemna to choose the best with the tough competition between the participants. The children too were not left behind and were given a chance to participate in a Fancy dress compeition. What imagination? What innovation What inspiration? It was wonderful to see the new age come up with new ideas and once again it was a difficult task to choose the winner. The function would not be the super duper one it was if not for the DJ Nevz And RJ Ryan who did a splendid job. The audience was simply awed with the dazzling performance of Ryan who with his charm wit and sense of humour enthralled the crowd. To taste the culture of Goa one did not have to fly across the seven seas thanks to Chris de Desouza, Roopali and his team for transforming the Ajman Beach into a mini Goa where everyone felt that was As good as being in Goa. PHOTOS @ http://www.daijiworld.com/0403_goa.asp http://www.daijiworld.com/0403_goa1.asp
[Goanet]KUWAIT: India Day on April 1st 2005
By Wilson and Priya Saldanha, Kuwait [Daijiworld News Network] April 2, Kuwait: 10 years back Hilary Mathias a Manglorean hailing from the Shirva Parish had a dream of conducting a mega show which would bring all Indians in Kuwait under one umbrella. Richard and Peter joined him to bring the dream come true. As a result, the first India Day was organized in 1995 with the support of Touristic Enterprise Company and the Entertainment city. That was the biggest Indian event of the year in Kuwait which continued every year. 'INDIA DAY' is the brain child of Hilary Mathias. 1st April 2005, the Indians in Kuwait witnessed the biggest Indian Mega Entertaining event which was held at the Entertainment City - Doha. The Touristic enterprise company and the Entertainment city were successful in organizing their 10th year celebration of India Day. Hello . where are you? Why are`t you coming over to enjoy? you are really missing a lot fun the youngsters were heard calling their friends on cell phones which has become a part of everyday life, while going around from one ride to the other entertaining themselves and thoroughly enjoying the whole day from 10 am to 10 pm. The stage programs started in the afternoon at 4 pm with a live band. A short and sweet welcome note was given by Kuwait's topmost MC`s Merwyn, Lloyd D`souza and Neetha Bhatkar. Group Dance competition was held for the tiny tots and the youngsters. Entries were received from various Indian dance schools in Kuwait. Anwer Al -Nisf the Operations Manager of Entertainment City gave away the prizes for the winners. Fire works were carried out to mark this event. Spot prizes were given out for the people who gave the right answers on the information of Technosat (Pehla), Kuwait Bahrain exchange Co. (Western Union Money Transfer) and the other sponsors of the program. As 1st April is known to be the April Fools day the 3 MC`s fooled the audience with their witty joke and excellent acting which will be remembered at least by a few till the next year. The main attraction of the day was the grand entry of Nitin Bali who started his carrier with Zee TV as the Production Coordinator and who was also largely responsible for the production coordination of the 1996 Miss World Peagent, with his non stop entertaining numbers which made a large crowd gather around the stage dancing on their toes. The program came to an end at 10 pm after a fun filled day. PHOTOS @ http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=10729n_tit=Kuwait% 3A+India+Day+%2D+Exclusive+Report+and+Pictures
[Goanet]Wikipedia, talk... and the Pope
If you need to know how much work and discussion goes into a Wikipedia article, check this URL, relating to the Pope's article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3APope_John_Paul_II _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
[Goanet]Re: Goans, Gouveia, Gilbert and Caste
JC. I have responded to you below to each of your comments. So you will see my thoughts in the final section, where your post appears. GL Mario Goveia wrote: Here is an excerpt from the article: When India's founding Constituent Assembly debated making concessions for Outcaste-Christians, Jerome D'Souza, S.J., representing the Christians, rejected them, claiming there is no caste in Christianity. He sounds just like you, Gilbert. Clearly in the late 40's Jerome D'Souza must have known that the caste system was rampant among Goans. Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed. == Gilbert Lawrence responds: What you have put in quotes from its very English cannot be the words of Jerome D'Souza but rather your's or someone else's interpretation of Jerome's thoughts. It does not even tell us the context of the statement. Clearly the Indian constitution was not being written for 2% of the population. Having said that, I fully support the statement there is no caste in Christianity. Do you disagree with that statement? What are your colors including confused? :=)) Do you want to have your cake and eat it too? Do you love to argue? Please be honest? Response from JC: In their opposition to the practice of that Apartheid Caste System, I support Cornell and Mario. GL: Let's not argue the obvious. WE ALL OPPOSE the practice of apartheid caste system. (Should I repeat the prior statement ten times) So there are no martyrs for this cause. Those who claim that mantel by falsely accusing others (and now including the Bishop of Goa) are the true casteists (or nuts) in some angelic clothes. This is obvious from Mario's post where he is now very very angry with the Goa Catholic bishop and church of Goa for some imaginary or yet to be known reason/ link to caste. In the above points, I support the points raised by you. GL: Now why is it I make sense to you and many others but not to these 'aum zano Goenkars'? To which escol did these two or three guys go to?:=)) Oh Yes, I did not mention the phantom nuns and priests. :=)) I do NOT support the individual who wants to have his cake and eat it too. Even if the Icing on the cakewalla's cake is full of Confusion. GL: You have made the right diagnosis of Confusion and Ignorance. Now can you prescribe some treatment. Yes, I know they are adults. :=)) Let us (for the sake of this discussion) assume that those were indeed Fr. Jerome's words. 1. Did he say anything wrong ? GL: First that was what Mario posted when I asked him for Fr. Jerome's quote. Not to your question. That is precisely my point - Absolutely nothing wrong. So why are they quoting him? To discredit him? Misrepresent the priest? or do they not just understand what Fr. Jerome is saying? Again which escol did they go, which taught them 'the art of DISTORTIONS'. 2. Is there Caste in Christianity? AND Would a person practicing the caste system be a Christian ? GL: There is no caste-system in the teaching of Christianity. In Goa and in my diocese of Syracuse I do not see caste practices. I have asked you and others for documentation of a systematic /structural discrimination. A person practicing discrimination would not be a Christian. Period end of story! 3. IF special concessions were made to a special subset of Christians (or Hindus) based on the Caste System, would that be fighting or enhancing the Caste System? GL: That would be Affirmative Action - Indian style! I support Affirmative action in the USA. Do you and others have a solution to correct past injustices? I hope we have noted that the vast majority of Goans (in the late 40s and 50s and before that) were NOT even considered in the scenario of the Indian Constitution. They were after all, Portuguese Citizens.that figure of 2% might merit from revision. GL: The figure of 2% is the proportion of Christians in India at the time the Indian constitution was written. Regards, GL
[Goanet]Dayanita Singh in Boston
The photographer lives in Goa. FN Contact the artist: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYTimes.com Arts Art Design Dayanita Singh/Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum Raphael, Boston, 2002, in Dayanita Singh's Chairs at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston. Dayanita Singh's Chairs will remain at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston until May 8. ART REVIEW | DAYANITA SINGH Objects of Repose and Remembrance By HOLLAND COTTER Published: March 30, 2005 I am able to be international because I am so rooted in India, said the ultra-cosmopolitan Jawaharlal Nehru, the country's first prime minister. And many contemporary Indian artists might well say the same. International they are, for sure, judging by visibility. A big traveling survey called Edge of Desire: Recent Art in India is at the Asia Society and the Queens Museum in New York this spring. This summer, the Venice Biennale will have its first Indian pavilion. The Delhi-based photographer Dayanita Singh, 44, in particular is getting around. She has work in Edge of Desire and at Sepia International in Chelsea, plus a solo exhibition, Chairs, at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston, a really beautiful one, subtly globalist and time traveling. As it happens, her pictures at the Gardner and at the Asia Society share a Nehru moment. In 2000, Ms. Singh made a series of photographs at Anand Bhavan, the Nehru family home in Allahabad, now a museum. With its displays of the political hero's personal effects in domestic settings, it draws its share of tourists, though Ms. Singh paid little attention to them. Instead, she focused on the objects preserved. Her shot of one of Nehru's white jackets hanging in a cabinet is at the Asia Society; a picture of books in his spare, monkish library is at the Gardner. Both photographs - black-and-white, like all Ms. Singh's work - are reliquary still-lifes of a specific historical past. But a third picture from the series, not in either show - you'll find it in her book, Privacy, published last year by Steidl - is quite different. In it, Indian tourists peer into one of Nehru's rooms from behind a glass barrier. Ms. Singh shoots them from inside the display, from the perspective of Nehru's ghost, you might say. And dressed in saris and T-shirts, they seem to be from another world, an in-the-now India, jostling for space and feeling the heat, in a frozen-time shrine. Place and time - here and there, past and present - are the poles of Ms. Singh's work, although her early training was in the intensely present-directed field of photojournalism, which she studied in India and at the International Center of Photography in New York. While still her 20's she had assignments for international magazines and newspapers, including this one. And one article, from The Times of London in 1989, turned into a long-term, career-altering project. The article was about Indian eunuchs, who form a distinctive social class within the culture. In researching the subject, she befriended a eunuch named Mona Ahmed, a bright, troubled, charismatic presence whose life she went on to photograph for 13 years. What resulted was the extraordinary book Myself Mona Ahmed (Scalo, 2001), a record of a personal past and present locked in conflict. Ms. Singh's interest in photojournalism gradually cooled as she realized that most Western publications were interested in only one India, an India of sensational catastrophes and human failures. And even as she produced significant reports on AIDS and child labor, she was aware that the India of economic privilege that she was born into was going undocumented in a period of radical transition. With no market for the story, she proceeded on her own. In 1992, she started making portraits of wealthy urbanites in their homes in New Delhi and elsewhere, beginning with family friends and branching out into a social sphere in which distinctions between Western and Indian are in an ever-shifting balance. This dynamic is apparent in the clothes her sitters wear - saris and miniskirts turn up in the same picture - but more tellingly in half-noticed details of interior decor, which range from colonial baroque to minimalist modern, with endless variations between. In houses and apartments in Calcutta in 2002, Ms. Singh found herself taking pictures, as she had at Anand Bhavan, of rooms empty of people but filled with traces of them: an armchair awaiting the arrival of one family member, a desk chair vacated by another; a daybed where someone now dead had once napped. From Calcutta, she traveled to Boston for an artist's residency at the Gardner, a mock-Venetian palace built around 1900 as museum-home. She brought the pictures from Calcutta, and began doing in Boston what she had done there: evoking resident spirits through portraits of furniture. An 18th-century Italian chair, for example, facing a tiny tabletop Raphael
[Goanet]VISen 050402 special edition (Vatican Information Service)
VISen 050402 special editionTo:VIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [input] [input] [input] VATICAN INFORMATION SERVICE SALA STAMPA DELLA SANTA SEDE - OFICINA DE PRENSA DE LA SANTA SEDE BUREAU DE PRESSE DU SAINT- SIÈGE - PRESSEAMT DES HEILIGEN STUHLS HOLY SEE PRESS OFFICE V.I.S. VIS internet Search Documents Receive VIS Press Office 04.02.2005 Fifteenth Year - N.61 SUMMARY: THE DEATH OF POPE JOHN PAUL II - POPE JOHN PAUL II DIES AT 84 - TENS OF THOUSANDS THRONG TO ST. PETER'S TO PRAY FOR POPE - FUNCTIONS OF THE CAMERLENGO FOLLOWING THE POPE'S DEATH - THE 26 YEARS OF JOHN PAUL II: 3RD LONGEST PAPACY IN HISTORY ___ POPE JOHN PAUL II DIES AT 84 VATICAN CITY, APR 2, 2005 (VIS) - Holy See Press Office Director Joaquin Navarro-Valls made the following announcement this evening: The Holy Father died at 9.37 this evening in his private apartment. At 8 p.m. the celebration of Mass for Divine Mercy Sunday began in the Holy Father's room, presided by Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz with the participation of Cardinal Marian Jaworski, of Archbishop Stanislaw Rylko and of Msgr. Mieczyslaw Mokrzycki. During the course of the Mass, the Viaticum was administered to the Holy Father and, once again, the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick. The Holy Father's final hours were marked by the uninterrupted prayer of all those who were assisting him in his pious death, and by the choral participation in prayer of the thousands of faithful who, for many hours, had been gathered in St. Peter's Square. Present at the moment of the death of John Paul II were: his two personal secretaries Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz and Msgr. Mieczyslaw Mokrzycki, Cardinal Marian Jaworski, Archbishop Stanislaw Rylko, Fr. Tadeusz Styczen, the three nuns, Handmaidens of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, who assist in the Holy Father's apartment, guided by the Superior Sr. Tobiana Sobodka, and the Pope's personal physician Dr. Renato Buzzonetti, with the two doctors on call, Dr. Alessandro Barelli and Dr. Ciro D'Allo, and the two nurses on call. Immediately afterwards Cardinal Secretary of State Angelo Sodano arrived, as did the camerlengo of Holy Roman Church, Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo, Archbishop Leonardo Sandri, substitute of the Secretariat of State, and Archbishop Paolo Sardi, vice-camerlengo of Holy Roman Church. Thereafter, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, and Cardinal Jozef Tomko also arrived. Tomorrow, Divine Mercy Sunday, at 10.30 a.m., a Mass for the repose of the soul of the Holy Father will be celebrated in St. Peter's Square, presided over by Cardinal Angelo Sodano. At 12 noon, the Marian prayer of Easter time, the Regina Coeli, will be recited. The body of the late pontiff is expected to be brought to the Vatican Basilica no earlier than Monday afternoon. The first General Congregation of Cardinals will be held at 10 a.m. on Monday April 4 in the Bologna Hall of the Apostolic Palace. OP/DEATH:POPE JOHN PAUL/NAVARRO-VALLS VIS 050402 (380) TENS OF THOUSANDS THRONG TO ST. PETER'S TO PRAY FOR POPE VATICAN CITY, APR 2, 2005 (VIS) - Pope John Paul died at 9:37 this evening as more than 70,000 faithful were gathered in St. Peter's Square to pray the rosary. They had been flowing into the square all day long - as they had all day yesterday - in ever increasing numbers, of all ages and from all continents and walks of life, families large and small, Catholics and non, cardinals and bishops, priests and seminarians, men and women religious. Following the rosary, presided over by Cardinal Edmund Szoka, and the announcement by Archbishop Leonardo Sandri to the crowd in St. Peter's Square that the Pope had died, Cardinal Angelo Sodano led a prayer for John Paul II. Archbishop Sandri then announced that Cardinal Sodano would preside at Mass tomorrow morning at 10:30 in St. Peter's Square. People remained in the square for further prayers as the bell in the left tower of St. Peter's Basilica began its death toll, one of the signals to the world that the Pope has died. .../.../... VIS 050402 (190) FUNCTIONS OF THE CAMERLENGO FOLLOWING THE POPE'S DEATH VATICAN CITY, APR 2, 2005 (VIS) - In Pope John Paul II's 1996 Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici gregis on the vacancy of the Apostolic See and the election of the Roman Pontiff, paragraph 17 reads as follows concerning the duties of the camerlengo of Holy Roman Church, who currently is Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo: As soon as he is informed of the death of the Supreme Pontiff, the Camerlengo of Holy Roman Church must officially ascertain the Pope's death, in the presence of the Master of Papal Liturgical Celebrations, of the Cleric Prelates of the Apostolic Camera and of the Secretary and Chancellor of the same; the latter shall
Re: [Goanet] The dangerous statistics of Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I have not been receiving individual emails of your postings on Goanet it has only now come to my attention that you have been posting a series of highly insulting, abusive and misleading postings on Goanet about my role in suggesting that people watch where they sit in public places. The above charges are false. It is very clear to everybody that Mario Goveia posted an alarmist urban legend in this forum, and then started spreading offensive lies against those of us who exposed his hoax, calling us defenders of AIDS-infected drug users and sex predators, and AIDS-infected drug users, ourselves. Your contention that I am prejudiced against AIDS victims is another blatant falsehood unsupported by anything I have said or done. It is my contention that Mario Goveia appears to be prejudiced against AIDS victims because he attacks people he hates by calling them defenders of AIDS-infected drug users. To him this name is an instrument of verbal abuse. Not once have I questioned the theoretical probability of contracting AIDS from infected needles in public places, the sole issue that underpins your hysterical, abusive and mean-spirited responses and insinuations. The hysteria, and the abusive and mean-spirited nature is revealed in Mario Goveia's alarmism and name-calling. He has repeatedly called us defenders of AIDS-infected drug users. Other Goanetters should ask why, if the probability of contracting AIDS accidentally in emergency rooms and operating rooms is as small as Santosh alleges, are such heroic precautions routinely taken by physicians and nurses in those settings? As pointed out earlier, these health care professionals run a measurable risk of contracting the HIV virus from sharp instruments that have freshly come in contact with infected blood and tissues. It is irresponsible and thoughtless for anyone to equate their risk with that of ordinary people, from discarded needles in public places, as Mario Goveia has done. Based on Santosh's bogus standards they must all be prejudiced against AIDS victims. As I have said earlier, I think Mario Goveia is prejudiced against AIDS victims because he abuses his opponents in debate by calling them defenders of AIDS-infected drug users or AIDS-infected drug users, themselves. So, Santosh's relentless downplaying of the risks of contracting this incurable disease is questionable at best and dangerous at worst. I have repeatedly presented the most reliable information I could find, which is that the risk of HIV from discarded needles in public places is extremely low. This is exactly what CDC and other responsible health agencies state. Back to Santosh, I continue to wonder about and question the reasons behind the level of your hysteria and abuse, just because I choose to defend, not the hoax, but my suggestion that people be careful. Mario Goveia has not defended anything. He is incapable of defending the notion that the risk of discarded needles in public places is similar to the occupational hazard faced by health care workers. All he has ever done is showered abuses on his detractors, calling them AIDS-infected drug users, revealing his prejudice against AIDS victims. Then you turned on Viviana and Gabriel who posted information of actual needles being found in public places, which the two of you are so desperately trying to downplay as a risk or a hazard. Vivian and Gabriel are nice people. They do not deserve to be defended by Mario Goveia, a man who abuses people on a daily basis on Goanet. In fact, Vivian has been a good friend for the last 8 years. I did not abuse Vivian and Gabriel. I merely stated my disagreement with them. I think they understood my position, and they stated their viewpoint in return. They did not call me an AIDS-infected drug user, as Mario Goveia did. The simple common-sense suggestion that people be careful where they sit in a public place, whatever its basis, seems to have personally offended both of you, based purely on theoretical statistical probabilities. There is nothing commonsensical about the urban legend or the subsequent defensiveness and abuse that Mario Goveia resorted to. There is no need to raise an alarm among the general public about this issue. No public health agency has seen it necessary to do it. They have only cautioned health care workers, for whom this is an occupational hazard. Nobody has calculated a theoretical probability of getting infected with HIV by a discarded needle in a public place because there has not been a single such case since the beginning of the AIDS epidemic. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Marx: creator of history or dustbin of history?
Mario wrote: Very clever observation, Mervyn. Doesn't change the fact that his theories are in the dustbin of history though. Whether one likes Marx's theories or not, the fact remains that no other person had greater influence on the history of the 20 th century through his writings than Marx. Correct me if I am wrong. For someone's writings to last out for such a long time is no mean achievement, you must agree. samir
[Goanet]Caste in Itself
GL responds: Does Avelino or any other Goan know the proportion of current (or 1970's) residents of Goa (native GOANS) that belonged to each of the four Varnas and those outside the Varna classification? Thanks GL D'Souza, Avelino After the British conquered Bengal and eventually the whole of India, they set out to administer the colony. In this context they encountered two phenomena with which they were not familiar: (1) the relation of people to land for production (and not for revenue receiving, household living, etc.), and (2) the caste system of India, viz. the jati stratification of society.=20 Soon they realized that the varna stratification of society (which denotes the varnas of Brahmans-mainly the priests, Kshatriya-the warriors, Vaisya-the husbandmen, and Sudra-the lowly people) is not unique to Indian society. In the late 19th and early 20th century, J. Jolly (1896), H. Oldenberg (1897), E. Senart (1927), and others clarified that the varnas denote the status system in Hindu society, which (e.g. varnas) are found with different nomenclatures in other societies of the world. I had discussed this point in my book entitled The Dynamics of Rural Society (1957a).=20
Re: [Goanet]When and where exactly did Karl Marx say this?
Very clever observation, Mervyn. Doesn't change the fact that his theories are in the dustbin of history though. --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Karl actually said this then he did not seem to have followed his own advice in arriving at his own theories, which have now been relegated to the dustbin of history where they rightfully belong. Mario, FYI, Karl Marx was a leftist. Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
[Goanet]9th NFL : Fabio Soares' late injury time goal helped Vasco split points with Churchill Brothers
«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» April 3, 2005 Fabio Soares' late injury time goal helped Vasco split points with Churchill Brothers. ..With time ticking away Vasco finally managed to find the equalizer in the 3rd minute of injury time when following a melee in side the penalty box, Fabio Soares managed to squeeze the ball into the goal past a host of the Churchill Bros players, to spark wild celebration among Vasco players and their few die-hard supporters in the stands... full report at : http://www.vascoclub.com/news Vasco's next game is on 7th April against Salgaocar Jason. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»
[Goanet]Re: Pope John Paul II- sad passing away. Press note for kind favour of publication.
March 3, 2005. To, The Administrator, GOANET, Kind attn. Mr. Frederick Noronha/Bosco D'Mello. Hereunder, please find a press note issued by he party, for favour of publication in your esteemed daily. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, for Goa Su-Raj Party. Sd/- (Floriano C. Lobo) President/Spokesperson. Press Note Goa Su-Raj Party is saddened at the passing away of Pope John Paul II, the Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church. At the same time it is thankful that God gave him over almost a quarter of a century to direct and lead the Church in difficult times. The Catholics have lost their father in the personal sense of the word and the world has lost a personality who dedicated his life to uphold human dignity and values. END.
[Goanet]Would this work for learning the piano?
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[Goanet]Obrigado, Santo Padre ..........Thank you, Holy Father
Sunday, April 03, 2005 18:23:01 Dear Friends, The World cried when Pope John Paul II died, but soon the same World sang Hosannas of Joy because SAINT Karol Wojtyla had entered in the Kingdom of God.!! It is with this Joy that I convey to you the following news: The media is full of news , but the one I am quoting below, was seen even in India only on the front page of 'THE ASIAN AGE : the very last document that he signed before stopping his mission as our Pope, was to appoint three Bishops in our INDIA! We owe him our gratitude. Fernando do Rego Caros Amigos O Mundo chorou de dor ao saber da noticia da morte do Papa Joa~o Paulo II e o mesmo Mundo momentos depois cantava hosanas porque o SANTO Karol Wojtila entrara no Reino de Deus. E' neste espirito de Alegria que vos dou esta noticia: A media mundial esta' cheia de detalhes sobre ele,mas a que cito a seguir,veio somente na pa'gina de frente do dia'rio 'THE ASIAN AGE - o ultimo documento que ele assinou antes de dar por terminada a sua missa~o de Papa, foi a nomeac,a~o de tres bispos na India. Fernando do Rego. THE ASIAN AGE' - Mumbai,Sunday 3 April 2005: Last file signed by Pope on India - by P.PAVAN The last file signed by the critically ill Pope John Paul II on Friday afternoon pertained to the Roman Catholic Church in India. The Pontiff promoted three Indian bishops before he slipped into coma at his chamber in the Vatican.Two of the person promoted by the Pope are from Chennai ( Madras/Madrasta): Vellore Bishop M.Chinappa has been named Archbishop of Chennai while Father Jebemalai Susainaickam was made Co-adjutor Bishop of the Diocee of Sivaganasai in Tamilnadu.Father Yunni Ambrose,director of Caritas-Asia was appointed Bishop of Tuticorin. Church authorities told this correspondent that the Pope signed the file at 12 noon in Italy, which means 4.30 P.M.IST.Soon after the three promotions were approved by the ailing Pope,it was formally communicated to the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India.Church authorities feel that the Pope's gesture was a reflection of his concern for INDIA Fernando do Rego. 143-Fontainhas.Pangim 403.001. GOA. INDIA TEL:222.6353.
[Goanet]John Paul II
John Paul II The news of his death has resounded throughout the globe and has moved us to tears. Though he was old and sick in the last phase of his Pontificate, John Paul II was loved by all, including the youth. We thank God for the gift of his life, of his multifaceted personality, and in a special way for his courage to speak the Truth. He has given us the kernel of Gospel values. In his message of condolence, the Prime Minister of India, Dr.Manmohan Singh called him beacon of unflinching moral values. Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ, the Saviour, the Truth, the Way, the Life. The Holy Father stood by his faith in God, in Jesus. He died with his hope in the Resurrection and New Life. He gave us courage to proclaim our faith and convictions, without forgetting that the Spirit of God is at work in the hearts of men, in all cultures, in all religions. He was a man of dialogue with the world. He worked for the families. He tried to show that there is no conflict between Religion and Science, between Faith and Reason. He tried to unite leaders of all religious groups in the struggle for one common cause, for Peace. In the era of economic and cultural globalization, John Paul II proclaimed with sound optimism globalization of solidarity.Let us pray for him! Fr.Ivo da C.Souza
[Goanet]Goa Church statement on the death of Pope John Paul II
Statement We are deeply grieved by the passing away of our dear Pope John Paul II. We pray, together with the whole Church spread throughout the world, that God may give him eternal peace and joy. At the same time, we thank the same God for the gifts He bestowed on this great Shepherd, who guided the destinies of the Church in really challenging times, through a long and eventful pontificate. Pope John Paul was a Pilgrim Pope, always on the move, eager to spread the message of Joy, Peace and Love of Jesus in every corner of the world. He was a staunch Defender of Human Rights, raising his voice for the poor, the marginalized and the persecuted. Such was his personal charisma that he rose to become a Global Citizen, in fact, a Global Statesman, inaugurating a new order of international solidarity, which brought about a considerable change in the socio-political world scene. He was a tireless Advocate of a Culture of Life, who spared no efforts to defend the sacredness of life and the dignity of the human person right from the moment of conception. A man of strong convictions on vital moral issues, he possessed the strength to stand by them, uncompromising, even in the face of fierce opposition. We pray for his eternal rest. CIRCULAR We are all saddened by the passing away of our beloved Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, after an outstanding pastoral leadership of 26 years to the Universal Church. As we pray that the Lord may grant him eternal peace and joy, we recall with gratitude the great Gift of God that he was to the Church and to the world at large. He was a man of deep faith and of intense prayer. He was a powerful communicator, who could relate to all sections of the people, especially the young. He courageously pushed forward the movement of Church Renewal that had been launched by the Second Vatican Council in the nineteen sixties. From 1980 onwards -- barely two years into his new ministry -- he fixed his gaze on the Great Jubilee of the Second Millennium of Christianity and he not only prepared the Church but led her joyously into the Third Millennium. His ecumenical action and his efforts at Inter-religious Dialogue were noteworthy. His uncompromising stand on moral and social as well as on some political issues made him a powerful agent of a new world order of solidarity and one of the most notable figures of the twentieth century. As a mark of respect to the departed soul of our Supreme Pontiff, we call upon our Parish Priests, Chaplains and Heads of Church institutions to: 1. arrange for the tolling of bells today, tomorrow and on the day of the funeral of His Holiness, in all the Churches and Chapels of our Archdiocese; 2. hold special prayers for the repose of the departed soul on a convenient date in our Churches, Chapels and Church institutions; 3. join in a Solemn Pontifical Mass in our Cathedral Church at Old Goa on the day of the Funeral of the Holy Father, at 10 a.m., with the participation of the Faithful, the Religious, the Clergy and also, possibly, of members of other faiths who would like to associate themselves with us, on this solemn occasion; 4. promote, after the funeral date, special prayers in our parishes, institutions and families until the election of the new Pope, so that the Church may have a worthy successor of our dearly beloved Pope John Paul II. The offices of the Archbishop?s House and of other Diocesan Centres and Bodies will remain closed tomorrow and on the day of the Funeral and the Papal Flag will be flown at half mast in the Archbishop?s House, until the date of the funeral. Archbishop?s House, Panjim, Goa, April 3, 2005. Filipe Neri Ferrao Archbishop of Goa and Daman
[Goanet]Re: KUWAIT TIATRIST - ZORO.
KUWAIT TIATRIST ZORO. Zoro who is also a member of Kuwait Tiatristanchi Sonvstha. With reference to the above mentioned post. We wish to inform all that the only 'tiatristanchi sonsvtha' in the Gulf region which is formed by a group of professional tiatrists, artistes, writers, directors, stage professionals, musicians and have unitedly named it as Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS for short). And not as erroneously and speciously mentioned in the post. It is said that no matter how long a log stays in the water, it doesn't become a crocodile. We forgive those who are fast catching the Azheimer's disease. For upcoming KGTS activities and to how you can be a member to foster unity and continue the finest Goan stage art, namely the tiatr and assist in the upliftment of tiatr and tiatrists, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Long live KGTS. Francis de Verna Hon. President, KGTS [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Re: Goans and Caste
Note to Bosco. I am unable to get my post below in Plain Text, unfortunately, for inexplicable reasons. Please can you help on this count? Thanks, Cornel Hi Gilbert, Many thanks for your post to me. Regarding your point that culture is an important aspect of Society, it is entirely true and undisputable. However, many cultures have some pathological and unsavoury elements within them. For instance, cannibal culture, even today, allows for the eating of other humans. Likewise, one evil element (among others) in Hindu culture is caste, as was sati before. Individuals like Mario, Jose, Fr Ivo and myself on Goanet, definitely want to see this aspect of Hindu culture, which is embedded among some Catholic Goans, to be eliminated forthwith because it is, as said earlier, an evil as was sati before. Where I cannot agree with you, at all, is the attempt by you, to persuade anyone, that caste as a cultural aspect among the Christian Goans is worth keeping just because it has been around for a long time. However, your earlier point that an alternative needs to be put in its place, is right but I do not agree that we have to wait for this alternative. That alternative, available today, is to reject caste outright. The culture of which you talk about, and feel strongly about, will surely be enriched with the elimination of the evil that caste is among Catholic. Whither the vacuum that you are so fearful of if I am to take your position seriously? The ongoing discussion on caste on Goanet has been quite educational to me too. I do know about how religions interlink in some aspects of belief and practice and perhaps caste belief among some Catholic Goans is virtually a parallel religious belief to Catholicism. However, as I have said repeatedly, the tenets of Hinduism and Catholicism are poles apart in most respects. Therefore, I do not believe it is possible to reconcile or accommodate Catholic belief with Hindu caste belief but I don't want to repeat the reasons for this yet again. I believe that the debate on Goanet has had a fair share of time devoted to it. The time now is to internationalise the issue so that the dirty little secret of caste racism among Catholic Goans, becomes a discussion point for people all over the world. It could be a potent way of dealing with this evil. The Pope's demise will respectfully delay my submission of two substantial articles I already have ready to go into print in the media outside Goa. They will echo, in some respects, the material just obtained by me, in John Francis Izzo's published material on Caste and Church in Southern India. I want to persuade you Gilbert, not to fight you, and others, about my utterly unshakeable position on the anathema/evil of caste among the Catholic Goans and which so insidiously pervades much of Catholic Goan society. Regards, Cornel PS I do not know any Goans in the UK who think they are English but have met some who, outwardly, are perhaps more English than British as would be appropriate. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: Goans and Caste Hi Cornel, Thanks for your last post on this thread. I said, and you reteriorated, that I am 'ek supurlo Goenkar' earnestly trying to study and understand Goan culture and behavior. From your post, it looks like I have been making the grave human error of saying to the English Emperor: Your Majesty! You are not wearing any clothes! or in amchi bhas: Boro Nangu-Pangu dista, Saiba!:=)) The good part though, the wording about Goan cultural practices was more accurate and made more sense in your last post than what you have been writing previously. So there is hope.:=)) Should I have added (to the English Emperor) the Great Masai Chief? :=)) Your English is impeccable. But perhaps because you did not live in India, you may not realize what I think is your error in writing. Aniek time Saiba kakut kor - Hope you got that.
Re: [Goanet]A message from Rane Barreto
Eddie Fernande's London (NRI Cell Overseas Delegate) Eddie , Who is the author of this RULE ? the rule that says * NRIs who wish to travel on charter flights to Goa and stay for more than 4 weeks. * ? Simon D Souza - the ex-speaker of * Goa Government * Invited me to meet up with Governor of Goa - Mr. Jamir - I invited Jerome Mendes to accompany me , together we put up our ..The NRG -Community problems and our suggestions too. The Governor Mr. Jamir - spent about half an hour with us , promised to look into our suggestions and problems - we wait in hope to hear. On our way back to Vasco from the Governors Palace - we called on the present Speaker of the House - Government of Goa . Mr. Sardinha. The Speaker apologized - for not being able to * speak * - as Goa was under the President Rule - he said , Though he did allow us to be photographed with him ... no restrictions there he was quick to point out. Coming back to what Eddie mentioned , I believe that if we are to address any problems - Goa , relating to the Non resident Goans , WE need to do so in an organized manner , I would suggest that we do so TOGETHER under the banner of the NRG - UK , NRG Canada , NRG etc ., etc., When we complain as indviduals - NO body cares ... collectively , it may be a different story. I have written to the NRI Goa cell sharing these thoughts , I have been promised a reply by Mr. Keni - after their monthly meeting ...I will of course keep you all informed. A suggestion that was put up at the NRG meeting held at the NRI - Goa cell ...was that the Goans in Goa - (NRI settled in Goa form an organization ) I believe this is an old stories - making its rounds. We need some one in Goa to MAKE IT HAPPEN ! We wait to hear .. The NRI Cell needs to have an electronic presence if it is to be taken seriously. Their communications and their magazine are transmitted by post. They cannot hope to reach out to the overseas Goans if they do not use email and the Web. We have brought this point and also suggested that all the members of the NRI-Goa cell should have their own email ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell.Goa what ever .. we hope such email addresses would expedite replies to our emails. It would be highly desirable for them to focus on one or two manageable projects to show that they care and to prove that they have teeth. It was also suggested that a yearly report be sent out to the various WORLD Goan organizations , this report would help Goans abroad to understand what GOA NRG cell was all about. WE welcome your thoughts. Lets discuss subjects that really matter .. and other subjects too : - ) Thanks to Goan Voice - Eddie Fernande's who makes the time to bring to our attention the many problems we Goans abroad face. Please support his in his efforts - as Fred says - say a small thank - sometimes ! If nothing else. My thanks to Fred Noronha for his TIME - he made to come along with us and for entertaining us at a Real Goan Restaurant - Fred is a great believer of going * Dutch* no to * OPC * ( Other peoples cost )he says ... each of us paid Rs. 30 ! our Fish , Curry and Rice ...My thanks to Bharat Kamat too , he was great company. rene --- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rene is to be congratulated for seizing the opportunity to raise the networking issue at the NRI Cell office. I do hope that those who cannot be present at the meeting and our views will also get attention . Those who are not aware of the problem may wish to check out http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/newsletter/2005/Feb/issue4/supplement.htm Cheers, Eddie Fernandes London (NRI Cell Overseas Delegate) - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Cc: Jen Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [Goanet]A message from Rane Barreto Rene, that unputdownable networker, phoned today to say that he's planning an informal meeting of friends (including those on the VascokarsUnited mailing list -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited ) Date Thursday March 10, 2005 Time 11 am Venue NRI Cell, EDC House __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com
[Goanet]How to create a home-page for your school
http://www.challenge.state.la.us/k12act/data/homepage1.html Very interesting page for high school students: Topic(s): Planning a Home Page, HTML tags, Creating a simple HTML template for a Home Page, Viewing the Home Page on an Internet Browser Purpose(s) of Lesson: The purpose of this lesson is to teach students how to create a simple Home Page for a school. Materials Needed: Computer with at least eight megabytes of RAM, Windows Notepad or another word processor, floppy disks, connection to the Internet, graphical Web Browser such as Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer, teacher handouts of HTML coding. Optional, but helpful: Large TV monitor connected to the computer. Time Required: 5 to 10 hours (Time will vary depending on type of connection to the Internet) Lesson Procedure: Creating a Home Page for your school can be exciting and fun for you and your students. It seems like schools are posting new web pages almost daily. So I challenge you to begin to learn the Hypertext Markup Language (HTML), which is the language of the Web. he HTML codes make up a simple programming language that will be simple for students to learn. Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
[Goanet]Modi, his Leaders the Young Jerks
HindustanTimes.com Columnists Vir Sanghvi Modi, his Leaders the Young Jerks COUNTERPOINT | Vir Sanghvi April 2, 2005|00:41 IST So Narendra Modi is going to stay. And by that I don't mean only that he's going to stay in India because no other country will welcome him. I mean that he's going to stay as Chief Minister of Gujarat. On Thursday, Venkaiah Naidu (remember him? He's the one with the silly snarl who used to be on the TV news every night in the old days) told the media that he had met the dissidents and had decided (or more correctly, that his boss L.K. Advani had decided) that there was no question of removing Modi. Experts on the internal politics of the BJP a category that certainly doesn't include me say that we should not take Naidu too seriously. The vote of confidence in Modi, we are told, is merely a tactical ploy. The hirsute, nouveau Sardar is really on his way out. The RSS, it seems, has decided that he has to go. But the high command does not want to give the impression that it is (a) giving in to pressure from the MLAs and (b) unduly perturbed that Modi has become an international pariah. Give it a little time, say the BJP experts, and Modi is certain to get the shove. Well, perhaps he is. And perhaps he isn't. There was a time when the prospect of Modi's ouster would have filled my liberal, secular heart with joy. But now, frankly, I couldn't give a monkey's. If Modi does go eventually it won't be because somebody high up in Nagpur wakes up one fine morning and recognises that genocide was A Bad Thing. His exit if and when it happens will arise from a combination of factors. The RSS's belief that he's getting too big for his chappals. The BJP high command's annoyance at his failure to know his own place. And the anger of BJP MLAs who were once quite happy to fight the election under his leadership and to win votes on the basis of his genocidal record. So, how does it matter to liberals or secularists whether he stays or goes? The truth is that even if he does go, it won't be for the right reasons (because his government collaborated in a campaign of systematic massacres) but for reasons that are so wrong as to be morally irrelevant. But even so, I wonder sometimes if the BJP's top leadership recognises how much harm Narendra Modi and Gujarat did to the party's image and reputation. Does L.K. Advani recognise that all his attempts to repackage himself as a moderate will flounder each time anybody recalls how he backed Modi during the riots? Does A.B. Vajpayee realise that Gujarat and his subsequent loss of nerve in Goa will remain the blackest mark on his prime ministership? And what of the Young Turks (or Young Jerks, depending on your point of view) who revolted in Goa when the issue of Modi's resignation came up and whose rebellion guaranteed his continuance? Do they know that each time they claim to represent the reasonable face of the BJP, there will always be somebody who asks: and where were you when Gujarat was burning? My guess is that the BJP is only just coming to terms with the damage that Modi and Gujarat did to the party and its international image. The BJP's proudest boast when it came to foreign policy was that it had forged the kind of bond with the US that no Congress government could ever have managed. The Congress was stuck in a pro-Soviet time warp, we were assured. But the BJP understood America. And America understood the BJP. If this is true then obviously America understands the BJP only too well. Challenged over the refusal of a visa to Modi, the US explained that it had only followed past precedents. It had once even refused a visa to Kurt Waldheim, President of Austria, because he was wait for it! a Nazi. Reassuring explanation, that. It must have gone down a treat at BJP headquarters where they are always busy telling us that the Sangh-Parivar-is-a-fascist-force theory is a silly Congress construct that nobody buys any longer. Nobody? Their pals in Washington sure as hell seem to be buying it. Ditto for London. The Brits are subtler than the Americans. So they didn't actually refuse Modi a visa. They just made it very clear that he would be as welcome in London as a man with a communicable disease would be at an orgy. The international response may have done something to persuade the BJP leadership that in retrospect it went seriously wrong when it decided to back Modi. Even before the visa denial, Pramod Mahajan told a group of visiting intellectuals that he thought that Gujarat contributed to the BJP's defeat. Pramod may have fibbed a little to tell the liberals what they wanted to hear. And he still has to explain why, in that case, he was at the forefront of the group of Young Jerks who saved Modi's job in Goa. But even so,
[Goanet]Caste in Itself, Caste and Class, or Caste in Class
Caste in Itself, Caste and Class, or Caste in Class Ramkrishna Mukherjee 17/3 Moore Avenue Calcutta 700040 INDIA Journal of world-systems research, VI, 2, Summer/Fall 2000, 332-339 Special Issue: Festchrift for Immanuel Wallerstein - Part I http://jwsr.ucr.edu issn 1076-156x (c) 2000 Ramkrishna Mukherjee After the British conquered Bengal and eventually the whole of India, they set out to administer the colony. In this context they encountered two phenomena with which they were not familiar: (1) the relation of people to land for production (and not for revenue receiving, household living, etc.), and (2) the caste system of India, viz. the jati stratification of society. Soon they realized that the varna stratification of society (which denotes the varnas of Brahmans-mainly the priests, Kshatriya-the warriors, Vaisya-the husbandmen, and Sudra-the lowly people) is not unique to Indian society. In the late 19th and early 20th century, J. Jolly (1896), H. Oldenberg (1897), E. Senart (1927), and others clarified that the varnas denote the status system in Hindu society, which (e.g. varnas) are found with different nomenclatures in other societies of the world. I had discussed this point in my book entitled The Dynamics of Rural Society (1957a). Yet, in 1962, M. N. Srinivas (1962: 63-69) rediscovered the distinction between varna and jati, and , in 1995, A. Beteille (1996:16) eulogised this pathbreaking essay of Srinivas at the All-India Sociological conference in Bhopal. But that jatis denoted the caste system of India was universally acclaimed; namely, the smallest endogamous groups of people within each varna. The relation of Indian people to land for production (and the ancillary activities of trade and petty craft production) did not, at first, undergo this kind of confusion. It was found by the British researchers in the 18th-19th centuries that the instruments for production (viz.plough, cattle, seed, manure, etc.) were held by the Indians familywise, but the land for production was held by the villagers in common under the village community system. As later admitted by Lord Bentinck (1829), this unified strength of the Indian peasants, artisans, and traders under the village community system was shattered by introducing the zemindary system. This system was first introduced in 1793 in Bengal, Bihar, and Orissa(the Suhab of Bengal)as the Permanent Settlement of Land, and in due course spread all over India. Some European scholars in the late 20th century argued that the manorial system was present in India from early times in pre-British India, andthat the village community system was a myth. However, the falsification of history in this manner has not been accepted by the bulk of scholars. They have documented that the village community system had originated at the threshold of the present millennium or some centuries earlier, and flourished up to the 11th century A.D. The steady but slow growth of indigenious capitalism in India tried to undermine the village community system, especially during the Moghul period, and ventured upon establishing the manorial system. This point was first mentioned by D.D. Kosambi(1955)and, later, elaborated by I.Habib and others. However, such was the gravity of the village community system that it could not be uprooted by indigenious capitalism: indeed, it made the capitalist development of India slow because the latter could not penetrate village India and create a home market. The point was underscored as late as the middle of the present century by the Congress Agrarian Reforms Committee (1951). However, the falsification of the role of cast (jati) system in India took a distinctive turn from the beginning of researches into the caste system by the British scholars in the 18th-19th centuries and most of the Indian scholars swallowed the myth hook, line, and stinker. In my aforementioned book and in The Rise and Fall of the East Indian Company (1957) I had shown that the jati division of society denoted the relation of people to land for production and the ancillary artisanal and trading activities. The jatis proliferated along with specialization and division of labour in society; but movements against the jati system gathered momentum along with the advent of capitalism in Indian society on its own merit. The point has been elaborated by later scholars. I had also shown, especially in The Dynamics of Rural Society, that the caste system received a new lease on life by invaginating itself into the colonial class system ushered in by the colonialists. Moreover I discussed in The Rise and Fall of the East India Company (1957) that the anti-caste movements of 14th-17th centuries were suppressed by the British by enacting laws supporting the Hindu and the Muslim orthodoxies from the time of Warren Hastings in India (1772-1786). But this real history of India was distorted by the British scholars, and the bulk of the Indian scholars
[Goanet]Democracy in the Catholic Church: is it time? (fwd)
Was having some problem in getting across to the site. FN -- Forwarded message -- From http://venus.opendemocracy.net/t/1842/38812/2/0/ The death of Pope John Paul II, just announced by the Vatican, brings the long reign of the 20th century's last pope to a close. The distinguished writer Neal Ascherson assesses the pope's role in the momentous events of his lifetime and asks what is Karol Wojtyla's legacy for democracy? Read Pope John Paul II and democracy by Neal Ascherson here http://venus.opendemocracy.net/t/1842/38812/439/0/ At openDemocracy.net we believe that democracy is a vital challenge for the Catholic church. 120 cardinals, the overwhelming majority of whom have been appointed by Karol Wojtyla, will choose the next pope. One billion Catholics will have no vote. At the beginning of its third millennium, we ask, why is the Catholic church not more democratic? In the coming days senior Catholics will pose questions vital to the future of the church: how far should governance be reformed? Should the power of the Vatican be curtailed? Who should lead the church and how should they be chosen? How democratic can it become? What role should women play in the 21st century church? Should all Catholics have a vote? Austen Ivereigh, press secretary to Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, and the eminent Jesuit Michael Walsh, will start the debate. We are opening our online forum to discuss this crucial issue, hosted by our Faith Ideas columnist Dave Belden. Join the forum here. http://venus.opendemocracy.net/t/1842/38812/440/0/ Please join this important debate
[Goanet]Pope in pictures. Observer U.K.
Click on the URL below:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,779099,00.html -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]From Goa to Guadeloupe..........
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,1451189,00.html Focus: John Paul II The man in white who changed the world Cristina Odone analyses the conflicting forces behind John Paul's papacy and compares his ability to shock with his power to inspire awe Sunday April 3, 2005 The Observer The old man sits at the window. He is in excruciating pain, visible as he struggles to speak. His face contorts in a grimace of suffering as he makes the sign of the cross in a blessing for the millions watching. The image, despite the vigour and globetrotting that characterised so much of John Paul II's papacy, is an enduring one. In dying, John Paul II made a public statement that will resound long after he has gone: life is sacred, at every stage; and in suffering, we can find truth. The frail octogenarian, riddled with ailments - by the end, these included Parkinson's, kidney failure, septic shock and heart failure - fought ferociously to lend moral dignity to his last moments. For the two months following his admission to hospital with a respiratory infection, John Paul II turned his suffering into an act of faith - and a humbling reminder to the rest of us of the invincibility of spiritual strength. The Vatican supported John Paul in his dying mission. During his last hours, as millions around the world held spontaneous vigils, Vatican spokesmen issued regular bulletins about the 84-year-old pontiff's condition. Gone were the secrecy and obfuscation long associated with the curia: here instead were detailed reports about tracheotomies, urinary tracts, septicaemia. The effect was to ensure the world's participation in this personal Calvary. From Goa to Guadeloupe, from Manila to Manchester, people - many of them non-Catholic - waited anxiously for the latest news from St Peter's. News networks around the world turned their lenses on the Vatican apartments, and to the square where 70,000 well-wishers thronged. Continuous live coverage took over radio stations - leading one Five Live broadcaster to joke to me that he felt as if he were working on Vatican Radio. The Pope had taught his followers that life - whether it be of the unborn, the infirm, the poor or the outcast - was always precious. Now, his own seemed the most precious of all. Shock and awe: the hallmark doctrine of the war he so vehemently opposed perfectly described the emotions John Paul II generated during the 27 years of his papacy. To be a Catholic with Karol Wojtyla at the helm was to bounce from the shock of hearing the reiteration of some of the Church's most anachronistic doctrines, to the awe of watching a frail octogenarian attack the world's superpower for its human rights record. It proved a bumpy ride for those of us who approached our faith in a pragmatic, á la carte fashion (euthanasia, no; birth control, yes). This general left us no room for manoeuvre. You were either for him or against him, either a good Catholic or one of those nihilists he railed against in his speeches and writings. After a succession of emollient Italian popes who believed the Church would survive only if it turned a blind eye to modern mores, this Polish pontiff made us uncomfortable. His intransigence on homosexuals, abortion, divorce, celibacy outraged many Catholics who felt their church, 20 years after the reforms of Vatican II, had stepped back into a Dark Age when faith was circumscribed by prohibitions and taboos. Weren't we supposed to have progressed towards a Catholicism that, instead of issuing old-fashioned diktats and speaking of hellfire and damnation, stoked our social conscience and held up a utopia for all? I remember, following the publication of the encyclical Veritatis Splendor in 1993, sharing my dismay with a Dominican priest: John Paul II had again underlined his opposition to birth control, which he saw as wicked a perversion of Nature and God's will as abortion or euthanasia. The Dominican shrugged and told me that more than 20 years had passed since he had heard anyone 'confessing' to being on the pill. The Pope could thunder, but his people - at least those in the West - could feign deafness. The pragmatism of this approach comforted me only to a degree. At a time when science and technology were throwing up new and complex moral dilemmas about euthanasia, IVF, and cloning, we Catholics found ourselves forced on the defensive by a Pope who clung to the evil of the condom - even if used to prevent the spread of HIV/Aids in Africa. It was difficult, too, when both left and right claimed that the individual was free to fashion his or her own morality, to subscribe to a moral absolutism that proclaimed there was a right and a wrong on all issues. Such uncompromising stands made John Paul II a perfect target for the ridicule of the chattering classes: he was vilified as backward and oppressive, and his followers as parochial and bigoted. We were also blinkered and hypocritical - how could we accept this doctrinaire
Re: [Goanet]CLOSE ENCOUNTER with POPE JOHN PAUL II
On Apr 3, 2005 6:06 AM, godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Catholics world over mourn the demise of His Holiness the Pope ---John Paul II a Polish native born at Krakow Poland on 18th May 1920 , named Karol Josef Wojtyla this writer remembers the ocassion of his visit to Goa in 1986. .Earlier this writer as a child also chanced to have a close look almost at arms length to see Pope John Paul the VI when he came to Mumbai (now Bombay) on 2nd December 1964 for the International Eucharistic Congress held at the Oval Maidan in Mumbai (then Bombay ) from 2nd December to 5th December 1964 . The especially erected altar was the venue where the huge multitude had gathered while late Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Bombay, a native of Telaulim in Navelim Salcete Goa did the honours on the ocassion. RESPONSE: You would have seen Pope Paul VI in 1964, I believe he followed Pope John XXIII. If the next Pope takes the name JOHN PAUL he will become JOHN PAUL III. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Paul_VI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_XXIII. Nice article nevertheless; I too got to see John Paul II at close quarters when he visited the U.K. My family was on holiday in the U.K. having come down from Singapore. We saw the Pope when he stayed with the Papal Nuncion in Parkside, Wimbledon. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/vote2001/results_constituencies/constituencies/632.stm Cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
Re: [Goanet]How to Build A Small NGO
Fred , Do NGOs in Goa get funding from the Government ? rene --- Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a 79-page PDF file === http://topics.developmentgateway.org/ngo/rc/ItemDetail.do~1034123?intcmp=700 This manual is useful for either starting an NGO or for improving systems in existing NGOs. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Thought for Today
--- Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think you are a soul, you will feel light. Is it good to feel light? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]The case against Reliance
Hi All: Let me stick to facts, and newspaper reports here. I would like you to go through this, ask as many questions as you want, and come to your own conclusions. regards, samir There have been a number of cases of illegalites by the Reliance group. However, the convictions haven't been as many as they should have been. And in many cases, even though the courts/govt. have agreed that these have been illegalities, the govt. has either retrospectively changed the law to suit Reliance or let Reliance get away with a paltry fine. Reliance has been convicted and had to pay a fine of Rs. 150 crores for routing international calls as local. See below: http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2207/stories/20050408001703200.htm http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/mar052005/b10.asp http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/mar052005/n18.asp The above crime is also a danger to the nations's security, as it is not possible to track calls from across the border --- from terrorists etc any more --- as they get camoflauged as local. With the fact, the mobile calls become an important tracking mechanism for catching crimes --- remember the attack on the Parliament -- it becomes an anti-national act. The nature of our legal system is that for a crime of much smaller magnitude, there are other smaller businessmen who have got arrested!!! (please see the news item from TOI at the end of the post) Reliance broke the law in offering roaming when they did not have the licence for doing so. Here is a link for that. http://www.swadeshi.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=42 In retrospect, the govt. brought a unified licence. The Indian govt. has launched an investigation against Reliance to check if there were any violations in offering RIC shares to Mahajan (the then Minister's) contacts. Here is a link to that. http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1f04ec9c-97e0-11d9-912c-0e2511c8.html Here is a link to a petition that asks the PM to intervene; one of the investors has launched a complaint with SEBi regarding this. http://www.petitiononline.com/mno87918/petition.html Asian Age has done detailed investigations into this. I can pass the links if you wish. Even Anil Ambani has made allegations against RIL. Check out: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041228/biz.htm The point is: in most cases Reliance gets away paying paltry fines. In other words, the breaking of the law, and getting away by paying the fines is incorporated in their business model itself. Given that fines are not much, the law does not end up having any teeth. Thus, Reliance's methods are well-known. In a country such as India, where corruption is so rampant, there is hardly any seriousness in implementation of laws against corporate fraud. Please note that violating licence conditions and then getting away with it gave undue advantage to Reliance over other competitors. There is also documented evidence of Reliance harassing its consumers, bringing about false bills etc. The foll. is the case in case of power. please note that suburban Bombay consumers have no choice regarding power. There is a Reliance monopoly out there. http://www.indianexpress.com/columnists/full_column.php?content_id=47938 There are cases of false billing in case of their mobile service also. There are also complaints against Reliance for anti-competitive/predatory pricing. Here is a complaint by the cellular operators against Reliance predatory pricing. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2005/03/31/stories/2005033102470300.htm The idea is simple here: capture the market by predatory pricing, then increase the price once customers are gained. Fines levied if any will come under business expenses, as these are accounted for in the business model. Here is TRAI's investigation into Reliance's predatory pricing. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050331/asp/business/story_449.asp But going by past records, TRAI has failed to show that they have teeth. Read in detail: Gurumurthy's article for which I have given the link above. Here is the link again. http://www.swadeshi.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=42 Also, TRAI chief has avoided TRAI's regulatory responsibility in the case of camoflaging of international calls by Reliance, before. See here the Left baying for TRAI's chief head. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050305/biz.htm#2 Here is a complaint about Reliance predatory pricing in the diesel sector.
[Goanet]The dangerous statistics of Santosh Helekar
Santosh Helekar wrote: The above statement of Mario Goveia constitutes the shameless spreading of an intentional, malicious lie to insult those of us who have exposed the alarmist hoax perpetrated by him in this public forum. This statement of his also appears to be borne out of prejudice against the unfortunate folk who are suffering from AIDS and have become addicted to drugs. Mario replies: Because I have not been receiving individual emails of your postings on Goanet it has only now come to my attention that you have been posting a series of highly insulting, abusive and misleading postings on Goanet about my role in suggesting that people watch where they sit in public places. If you were not so personally offended and unhinged about the notion that AIDS-infected drug users could possibly leave infected needles in public places you would have learned from all the postings on this subject that I have never once defended the original hoax, or continued to spread it, as you allege. So it is you who have been relentlessly spreading shameless lies that I have. My first clue to the hoax came from George Pinto, and I immediately routed George's information to the person who sent me the original email, asking them to check it out. Your contention that I am prejudiced against AIDS victims is another blatant falsehood unsupported by anything I have said or done. Not once have I questioned the theoretical probability of contracting AIDS from infected needles in public places, the sole issue that underpins your hysterical, abusive and mean-spirited responses and insinuations. Other Goanetters should ask why, if the probability of contracting AIDS accidentally in emergency rooms and operating rooms is as small as Santosh alleges, are such heroic precautions routinely taken by physicians and nurses in those settings? And why do dentists wear gloves? Even coaches and trainers who treat injured athletes, boxers, etc. are required to take precautions against contracting AIDS accidentally, even though the statistical probability is miniscule in those settings as well. Based on Santosh's bogus standards they must all be prejudiced against AIDS victims. After all, all I have done is issue a warning, they have actually implemented practices and procedures to be followed to reduce the risk. So, Santosh's relentless downplaying of the risks of contracting this incurable disease is questionable at best and dangerous at worst. Back to Santosh, I continue to wonder about and question the reasons behind the level of your hysteria and abuse, just because I choose to defend, not the hoax, but my suggestion that people be careful. This abuse has come primarily from you and your bosom buddy Jose Colaco, viciously and falsely impugning primarily my integrity, who mistakenly posted with the best of intentions an email I received. Then you turned on Viviana and Gabriel who posted information of actual needles being found in public places, which the two of you are so desperately trying to downplay as a risk or a hazard. The simple common-sense suggestion that people be careful where they sit in a public place, whatever its basis, seems to have personally offended both of you, based purely on theoretical statistical probabilities. Though the risk may be a small fraction of 1% based on past statistics, the next person who may actually have the misfortune to be so infected would experience an occurrence level of 100%. I would not want to be that person, and neither would I like that to be someone I know, just because they believed from your statistics that nothing similar could ever happen to them.
