[Goanet News Bytes]Apr 23, 2005 * Could Goa have been warned about Apr 20 squall...
## # Don't just read the news...discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet # # Goanet was setup in 1994 and has spent the last decade building a # # lasting Goan non-profit, volunteer-driven network in cyberspace. # # Visit the archives http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join Goanet. # ## [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s APRIL 23, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ... . ... .. ... .||.Founded in 1994 || || .| '|. '' .|| || || .|...|| || by Herman |'' || || .|' || || || || || Carneiro '. '|..|' '|..'|' .||. ||. '|...' '|.' http://www.goanet.org .|' To unsubscribe from this list, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find this ezine useful, please recommend it to your friends and others from Goa. To sign-up http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] IN TODAY'S EZINE: Could Goa's squall (earlier described as cyclonic winds) have been predicted and thus inconvenienced citizens less? Margao's bridges. Plans for ex-CM Ravi Naik to become GPCC(I) chief? SQUALL WAS PREDICTED THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE: Herald's Neena Dayal reports from Vasco that while the rest of Goa was unprepared for the severe weather, residents of the Naval Base at Vasco were mentally prepared for the squally. According to members of the Naval Base at Vasco, the Indian Naval Meteorological Department at Vasco had issued warnings to the air station for squally weather, and the information had filtered down to the residents for such strong weather. While the Indian Naval Base did not issue an official warning, warning signs were there fore everyone to see that a severe squall was on the way. But what was shocking to the residents of the naval base was to see the met officials in Panjim on why the destructive squally winds of April 20 could not be predicted. (Herald) o MORE ON BRIDGES AROUND MARGAO: The Rawanfond bridge stands finally commissioned, but with just a month-and-half to go for the monsoons to set in, the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation has a task cut out to complete work on the Khareband and Mungul bridges across the River Sal -- linking the commercial capital of Goa (Margao) to Salcete's coastal belt. (H) o RAVI NAIK is expected to become Goa Pradesh Congress Committee's next president. (H) o Governor S C Jamir visits devastated port town fishing jetty. (GT) o Six persons hurt in Bicholim riot, between Sunni and Tabalic groups during two separate processions on Id-e-Milad, the birth anniversary of Prophet Mohammed. (NT) ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION seals Reis Magos hotel, after its owners, including a former minister (Parulekar) defaulted on the payment of loans. (GT) TUITIONS HAVE BECOME like tonics and vitamin supplements, an essential part of the students' curriculum to either make up for the deficiencies in the educational system or compliment it. But though many frown upon tuitions and coaching, as it ends up eating into the students' leisure time, the students themselves and parents cannot do without them, write journalist Preetu Nair of the Gomantak Times. GOA GOVERNMENT MULLS REVERTING TO ENGLISH MEDIUM IN SCHOOLS: The Education Department is undertaking, for the first time, a house-to-house comprehensive educational survey covering all the 2.9 lakh families in Goa, to commence from April 25. Education director ND Agarwal said the survey would provide inputs for improving the quality of education. It would focus on whether people are in favour of introducing English as a subject in Standard I. If a majority of parents are in favour of having English as a subject from Standard I, then we may introduce English as a subject in Marathi and Konkani schools, officials said.GT This is the first-ever educational survey to be held in Goa.(NT) - DEATHS OBITUARIES - SALVADOR DO MUNDO: Anthony Paulo Cardozo. Husband of Piedade Cardozo, father of Francisco Xavier Cardozo, father-in-law of Laurina. Grandfather of Lina, Lily, Hilary and Charles. MARGAO: Ligorio Gladstone 'Glady' Andrade. Husband of Ligia, father/in-law of Judith (St Joseph's Convent School Nagoa-Verna), Jose
[Goanet News Bytes]Goanet Reader: Goan Summer Fruits - Zambllam, Kannt'tam, Churnam ani Poddkovam!
## # Don't just read the news...discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet # # Goanet was setup in 1994 and has spent the last decade building a # # lasting Goan non-profit, volunteer-driven network in cyberspace. # # Visit the archives http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join Goanet. # ## Goan Summer Fruits - Zambllam, Kannt'tam, Churnam ani Poddkovam! By Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] The summer has already begun in Goa and it reminds me of my childhood days when we ate several delicious summer fruits without spending a single paisa. Here are four of those fruits: 1) JAMBOLAN (ZAMBLLAM) The jambolan is a native to India. Seedlings grow slowly the first year, rapidly thereafter, and may reach 12 ft. in 2 years, and begin bearing in 8 to 10 years. Grafted trees bear in 4 to 7 years. No particular cultural attention is required. Organic fertilizer is applied after harvest but withheld in advance of flowering and fruiting to assure a good crop. If a tree does not bear heavily, it may be girdled or root-pruned to slow down vegetative growth. Jambolan is fast-growing, reaching full size in 40 years. It ranges up to 100 ft. in India, and it may attain a spread of around 36 ft. and a trunk diameter of 2 or 3 ft. It usually forks into multiple trunks a short distance from the ground. Sometimes, the main trunk of a Beddos (tree bearing small jambolan,) which is usually very tall and wide, has a cavity created by detachment of a branch. These cavities are used by gar (monitor lizard) as their dwellings. The pad'daii (woodpecker,) sanvor (magpie) and kir (parrot) also use the cavities to make their nests therein. The tree is wind-resistant and sometimes is closely planted in rows along roadsides as a windbreak. If topped regularly, such plantings form a dense, massive hedge. In Chinvar, Anjuna, on the way to Siolim, we have around 300-meter stretch of road covered with jambolan hedge; hence, the stretch is called Zambllinim. The bark on the lower part of the tree is rough, cracked, flaking and discolored; further up it is smooth and light-gray. The turpentine-scented evergreen leaves are opposite; oblong-oval or elliptic, blunt or tapering to a point at the apex; pinkish when young; when mature, leathery, glossy, dark-green above, lighter beneath, with conspicuous, yellowish midrib. The fruit, in clusters of just a few or 10 to 50, is oblong, often curved; ½ to 2 inches long, and usually turns from green to light-magenta, then dark-purple or nearly black as it ripens. The skin is thin, smooth, glossy, and adherent. The pulp is purple or white, very juicy, and normally encloses a single, oblong, green or brown seed, up to 1 ½ inches in length, though some fruits have 2 to 5 seeds tightly compressed within a leathery coat, and some are seedless. The fruit is usually astringent, sometimes unpalatably so, and the flavor varies from acid to fairly sweet. Zambllam is yet another Goan fruit delicacy which is abundantly available in every village. During the summer season, one can see scores of children as well as adults zamblli pondak (under a jambolan tree) either picking up fallen zambllam or using a manchi xintari with kelkem (bamboo stick with a hook at its top end) to shake a branch and loosen zambllam to fall, or a person climbs a tree and shakes a branch thus making ripe zambllam fall. If you see a young lad in a tree, he is definitely one of the local Goan boys, as Bomboikars or Goans living abroad mostly don't know how to climb a tree because they don't get such opportunities in Bomboi or abroad. Jambolan of good size and quality, having a sweet or sub-acid flavor and a minimum of astringency, are eaten raw and may be made into tarts, sauces and jam. Astringent fruits are improved in palatability by soaking them in salt water or pricking them, rubbing them with a little salt, and letting them stand for an hour. All but decidedly inferior fruits are utilized for juice which is much like grape juice. When extracting juice from cooked jambolan, it is recommended that it be allowed to drain out without squeezing the fruit and it will thus be less astringent. The white-fleshed jambolan has adequate pectin and makes a very stiff jelly unless cooking is brief. The more common purple-fleshed yields richly colored jelly but it is deficient in pectin and requires the addition of a commercial jelling agent or must be combined with pectin rich fruits such as unripe or sour guavas. Good quality jambolan juice is excellent for sherbet, syrup and squash. The latter is a bottled drink prepared by cooking the crushed fruits, pressing out the juice, combining it with sugar and water and adding citric acid and sodium benzoate as a
[Goanet News Bytes]Apr 24, 2005 * How the state (doesn't) work... Ola, Brazilian films
## # Don't just read the news...discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet # # Goanet was setup in 1994 and has spent the last decade building a # # lasting Goan non-profit, volunteer-driven network in cyberspace. # # Visit the archives http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join Goanet. # ## [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s APRIL 24, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ... . ... .. ... .||.Founded in 1994 || || .| '|. '' .|| || || .|...|| || by Herman |'' || || .|' || || || || || Carneiro '. '|..|' '|..'|' .||. ||. '|...' '|.' http://www.goanet.org .|' To unsubscribe from this list, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find this ezine useful, please recommend it to your friends and others from Goa. To sign-up http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] IN TODAY'S EZINE: Is the state functioning? Reports from the police, and Goa's hospitals. Facts from the courts, and more. Goa's second Brazilian film festival concluds in Panjim later on Sunday; it was held across four days at the Kala Academy's black box. COPS AND ROBBERS: GOA POLICE TRAINING IN THE NEW GAME Crooks and criminals have redined their modus operandi. They try to keep one step ahead of the long arm of the law. Has the Goa police honed its detection skills to cope with the new situation? Is it equipped to tackle the criminal? Though a few police officers have done well in the past, Weekender finds the picture not so rosy now. (Gomantak Times) Police officials reveal that though crime kits such as gloves have to be provided regularly to all police stations, in most of the stations there has been no supply of kits for over a year. (GT) GOA HOSPITALS RUN DRY FOR LACK OF 'SPIRIT'. Government medical facilities have no denatured spirit to even clean wounds. (H) GOA HIGH COURT STANDING ON A CRUMBLING CLIFF? Is the fate of the building of the Bombay High Court in Goa hanging on a crumbling cliff? At a time when a matter on hill-slope constructions is still pending before the bench, illegal excavations of hill slopes continue unabated, in fact right under the nose of the high court. Herald stumbled on a major hill-cutting at Cortim, which poses a severe threat to those residing below, and the High Court itself. (H) VILLAGE CULTURE THRIVING IN GOA, SAYS SHYAM BENEGAL: Noted film-maker Shyam Bengal released the book 'Kaleidoscope Goa -- A Cultural Atlas' by Dr Pandurang Phaldessai, and edited by Dr Nandkumar Kumar at a function on Saturday. (NT) CONGRESS LEADER DESHPRABHU CRIES FOUL OVER THE RIBANDAR BY-PASS PROJECT: The entire project was designed for an agency called MV Rao, which is closely associated with the former national president of the BJP. The contract was awarded by completely by-passing the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways, so that it could be assigned to the favoured agencies of MV Rao and other BJP cronies on the pretest of the Exposition, Deshprabhu charged. (H) OLA! FILMS FROM BRAZIL: Goa's second Brazilian film festival concludes on April 24 at the Black Box, with the screening of three films -- 'Hans Staden', 'City of God' and 'Celest and Estrela' at 11 am, 5 pm and 7.30 pm respectively. (NT) o Traffic cell to act tough against violators. (H) o Six-year-old girl dies of snake-bite, at Valikini sColony, Sanguem.(H) o Woman Parveen Md Adil (21) of New Vaddem commits suicide at Vasco. (NT) o Woman Mahadevi Natekar (42) missing from Zorint, Zuarinagar. (NT) o Disaster management plan mooted for South Goa. (NT) o BJP trated Digambar Kamat very badly, says Uday Bhembre. (NT) o Body of 25-year-old man found by Colva police on rail track. Suicide suspected. (NT) o Vasco roads pose risk to motorists. City roads are becoming death traps, specially for two-wheller riders. Accident rates have skyrocketed, and most affected are two-wheelers. (NT) o Garbage disposal raises a stink in Calangute. (NT) o Post-dreding survey across the Aguada Sand Bar will be underway from April 25 onwards. Officials have cautioned mariners. (NT) o Hanuman Jayanti to be celebrated in Goa today. (NT) o Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU) with regional HQ at Bangalore has announced admission to its management programmes. (NT) o Weekender's Sunday Branch: Alex
[Goanet]Impact of Open Skies on Goa?
http://www.businessworldindia.com/MAY0205/column01.asp Opening Indian skies slowly A revolt of American cities that received no international flights made the US move to open skies; now everyone is following its lead ashok v. desai .. ... ... .. ... ... India signed a memorandum of agreement with the United Kingdom which also embodies fifth freedom. Indian and British airlines will be able to operate 56 flights a week to and from Heathrow in two years' time. Indian airlines will be able to fly any number of flights to other British airports; **British airlines will be allowed to operate seven flights a week to any Indian airport **(except that to Madras and Bangalore the limit will be 14 a week). Thus, India has got much more than the UK in this memorandum. It is not an agreement, for British agreements must be compatible with EU law which requires that rights given to British airlines must be extended to other EU airlines. The **British also asked for other things - e.g., that tourists should be allowed to stay for 45 days, not 28 as now, and to come with one charter operator and leave with another. The Indians promised to think about it.** The world is moving towards open skies while India ponders .. ... ... --- What, if anything, does the Goa govt have to say about these proposals? There are practically NO international flights of the scheduled type out of Dabolim (except perhaps once a week via Mumbai by AI/IA) currently. Meanwhile, charter flights to Goa account for over 90% of this type of business.
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Apr 24, 2005 * Official crisis, Brazilian films
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s APRIL 24, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ... . ... .. ... .||.Founded in 1994 || || .| '|. '' .|| || || .|...|| || by Herman |'' || || .|' || || || || || Carneiro '. '|..|' '|..'|' .||. ||. '|...' '|.' http://www.goanet.org .|' To unsubscribe from this list, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find this ezine useful, please recommend it to your friends and others from Goa. To sign-up http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] IN TODAY'S EZINE: Is the state functioning? Reports from the police, and Goa's hospitals. Facts from the courts, and more. Goa's second Brazilian film festival concluds in Panjim later on Sunday; it was held across four days at the Kala Academy's black box. COPS AND ROBBERS: GOA POLICE TRAINING IN THE NEW GAME Crooks and criminals have redined their modus operandi. They try to keep one step ahead of the long arm of the law. Has the Goa police honed its detection skills to cope with the new situation? Is it equipped to tackle the criminal? Though a few police officers have done well in the past, Weekender finds the picture not so rosy now. (Gomantak Times) Police officials reveal that though crime kits such as gloves have to be provided regularly to all police stations, in most of the stations there has been no supply of kits for over a year. (GT) GOA HOSPITALS RUN DRY FOR LACK OF 'SPIRIT'. Government medical facilities have no denatured spirit to even clean wounds. (H) GOA HIGH COURT STANDING ON A CRUMBLING CLIFF? Is the fate of the building of the Bombay High Court in Goa hanging on a crumbling cliff? At a time when a matter on hill-slope constructions is still pending before the bench, illegal excavations of hill slopes continue unabated, in fact right under the nose of the high court. Herald stumbled on a major hill-cutting at Cortim, which poses a severe threat to those residing below, and the High Court itself. (H) VILLAGE CULTURE THRIVING IN GOA, SAYS SHYAM BENEGAL: Noted film-maker Shyam Bengal released the book 'Kaleidoscope Goa -- A Cultural Atlas' by Dr Pandurang Phaldessai, and edited by Dr Nandkumar Kumar at a function on Saturday. (NT) CONGRESS LEADER DESHPRABHU CRIES FOUL OVER THE RIBANDAR BY-PASS PROJECT: The entire project was designed for an agency called MV Rao, which is closely associated with the former national president of the BJP. The contract was awarded by completely by-passing the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways, so that it could be assigned to the favoured agencies of MV Rao and other BJP cronies on the pretest of the Exposition, Deshprabhu charged. (H) OLA! FILMS FROM BRAZIL: Goa's second Brazilian film festival concludes on April 24 at the Black Box, with the screening of three films -- 'Hans Staden', 'City of God' and 'Celest and Estrela' at 11 am, 5 pm and 7.30 pm respectively. (NT) o Traffic cell to act tough against violators. (H) o Six-year-old girl dies of snake-bite, at Valikini sColony, Sanguem.(H) o Woman Parveen Md Adil (21) of New Vaddem commits suicide at Vasco. (NT) o Woman Mahadevi Natekar (42) missing from Zorint, Zuarinagar. (NT) o Disaster management plan mooted for South Goa. (NT) o BJP trated Digambar Kamat very badly, says Uday Bhembre. (NT) o Body of 25-year-old man found by Colva police on rail track. Suicide suspected. (NT) o Vasco roads pose risk to motorists. City roads are becoming death traps, specially for two-wheller riders. Accident rates have skyrocketed, and most affected are two-wheelers. (NT) o Garbage disposal raises a stink in Calangute. (NT) o Post-dreding survey across the Aguada Sand Bar will be underway from April 25 onwards. Officials have cautioned mariners. (NT) o Hanuman Jayanti to be celebrated in Goa today. (NT) o Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU) with regional HQ at Bangalore has announced admission to its management programmes. (NT) o Weekender's Sunday Branch: Alex Braganza of Mapusa. Of the Music Company. I started off with Sting, Symphony and many more. Music bands in those days were a crazy situation for us. Life used to get very hectic and the recognition we got at that time (20 years back) was phenomenal... (In the Music Company) you blend the old with the new and you get something completely different!... (GT) o Magic classes for adults and children. Ph 9822 121420 or 227 9563. o Arecanut leaf-plate manufacturing unit for Valpoi. (H)
Re: [Goanet]RE: Women Priests - 4th Choice
P D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some men, in their disillusionment or through subjugation, play the devil's advocate. Admittedly women are much smarter than the male homo sapiens. They have and wisely use their innate sixth sense :-) Pat, This sixth sense, that you talk about, includes the ability to belong to a group and not contribute anything to it? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - April 24, 2005!
Bhurgim avoi-bapaik sokol ghaltat zorui visorlear konnem tankam voir kaddleant. (Children let their parents down if they forget who brought them up.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Re: Goanet News Bytes * Apr 23, 2005 * Goa unwarned about squall
But what was shocking to the residents of the naval base was to see the [remarks of] met officials in Panjim on why the destructive squally winds of April 20 could not be predicted. But what is even more strange is why the Navy met officer dutifully informed the air station but did not bother to phone up his civilian counterpart in Panjim to check out his findings. Obviously he was quite sure of what was happening. Then was he trying to get some sadistic pleasure out of seeing suffering inflicted unexpectedly on Panjimites? A government enquiry should be initiated into this negligent situation urgently. In the same vein, the HERALD reporter also goes on to state: The author of this article [Neena Dayal] was warned three days in advance about the plausible occurrence of some drastic disturbances in weather conditions. Why did HERALD not publicise this information sufficiently as soon as it got it? WHY?
Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice
Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn3.0 Can you accuse only the US of this? I am not seeing any ethics in the politics of any country lately! Canada has just increased it's aid. The percentage increase in aid is higher than the percentage increase in military spending. But then again, we have no enemies. None. Zero. Zip. So we can afford to do so (or in other words, we have more oil than we need.) How many women contribute to this forum anyway? I can think of three only. Maybe the rest need their husbands permission to post anything :-( Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]women priests
GL responds Was it not your post Fred stating that an inquiry about one's village (commonly done in Goa) and a look about at one's birth certificate tells one about their caste. As you know both statements were wrong and they turned out to be a flame thrower, that we have yet to recover from - that of course is thanks to me.:=)) Is the statement/ comment/ question below along similar lines? Are you a member of COW? (committee for the ordination of women) =:)) I have no strong feelings either way because women or no women would not come between me and my God and my church. If it affects someone, they need to re-evaluate their reasons for being Catholic and the follower of Christ Would ordination of women help more men and Goan men to go to church?:=)) Regards Frederick Noronha Can someone donate a prize to the netter who comes up with the most convincing argument on why women shouldn't be allowed to become priests? Also, were all you guys serious with the arguments you threw up? FN
[Goanet]RE: Women Priests - 4th Choice
Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn3.0 PS. Since no woman has spoken up for female catholic priests, we can safely concur that they are quite happy with the status quo :-) Some men, in their disillusionment or through subjugation, play the devil's advocate. Admittedly women are much smarter than the male homo sapiens. They have and wisely use their innate sixth sense :-) The article that follows sheds additional light. Pat -- MAY WOMEN KEEP ALIVE THE AWARENESS OF THEIR VOCATION VATICAN CITY, JAN 16, 2004 (VIS) - This morning the Holy Father received the participants in the national congress of the Italian Women's Center as they reflect on the theme Women as They Face the Expectations of the World. He recalled that this Center, inspired by Christian principles, makes every effort to help women in undertaking in an ever more responsible way their own role in society. Mankind today feels with increasing intensity the need to offer a sense and a scope to the world in which new problems which generate insecurity and confusion present themselves every day. The current era, he continued, marked by the rapid succession of events, has seen the growing participation of women in every sector of civil, economic and religious life, starting with the family, the first and most vital cell of human society. This calls for, on your part, a constant attention to emerging problems and a generous farsightedness in facing them. It is important, the Pope told them, for women to keep alive the awareness of this fundamental vocation: they fulfill themselves only in giving love. . Their moral and spiritual strength comes from the awareness that 'God entrusts to women in a special way man, human beings'. John Paul II underscored that it is this which above all is the mission of every women, even in the Third Millennium. Live it fully and do not allow yourselves to be discouraged by difficulties and obstacles that you might meet along the way. On the contrary, always trusting in divine help, bring it to fulfillment with joy, expressing the female 'genius' that marks you. AC/./ITALIAN WOMEN'S CENTER? ? VIS 040116 (290)
[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Apr 23, 2005 * Goa unwarned about squall
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s APRIL 23, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ... . ... .. ... .||.Founded in 1994 || || .| '|. '' .|| || || .|...|| || by Herman |'' || || .|' || || || || || Carneiro '. '|..|' '|..'|' .||. ||. '|...' '|.' http://www.goanet.org .|' To unsubscribe from this list, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find this ezine useful, please recommend it to your friends and others from Goa. To sign-up http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] IN TODAY'S EZINE: Could Goa's squall (earlier described as cyclonic winds) have been predicted and thus inconvenienced citizens less? Margao's bridges. Plans for ex-CM Ravi Naik to become GPCC(I) chief? SQUALL WAS PREDICTED THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE: Herald's Neena Dayal reports from Vasco that while the rest of Goa was unprepared for the severe weather, residents of the Naval Base at Vasco were mentally prepared for the squally. According to members of the Naval Base at Vasco, the Indian Naval Meteorological Department at Vasco had issued warnings to the air station for squally weather, and the information had filtered down to the residents for such strong weather. While the Indian Naval Base did not issue an official warning, warning signs were there fore everyone to see that a severe squall was on the way. But what was shocking to the residents of the naval base was to see the met officials in Panjim on why the destructive squally winds of April 20 could not be predicted. (Herald) o MORE ON BRIDGES AROUND MARGAO: The Rawanfond bridge stands finally commissioned, but with just a month-and-half to go for the monsoons to set in, the Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation has a task cut out to complete work on the Khareband and Mungul bridges across the River Sal -- linking the commercial capital of Goa (Margao) to Salcete's coastal belt. (H) o RAVI NAIK is expected to become Goa Pradesh Congress Committee's next president. (H) o Governor S C Jamir visits devastated port town fishing jetty. (GT) o Six persons hurt in Bicholim riot, between Sunni and Tabalic groups during two separate processions on Id-e-Milad, the birth anniversary of Prophet Mohammed. (NT) ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION seals Reis Magos hotel, after its owners, including a former minister (Parulekar) defaulted on the payment of loans. (GT) TUITIONS HAVE BECOME like tonics and vitamin supplements, an essential part of the students' curriculum to either make up for the deficiencies in the educational system or compliment it. But though many frown upon tuitions and coaching, as it ends up eating into the students' leisure time, the students themselves and parents cannot do without them, write journalist Preetu Nair of the Gomantak Times. GOA GOVERNMENT MULLS REVERTING TO ENGLISH MEDIUM IN SCHOOLS: The Education Department is undertaking, for the first time, a house-to-house comprehensive educational survey covering all the 2.9 lakh families in Goa, to commence from April 25. Education director ND Agarwal said the survey would provide inputs for improving the quality of education. It would focus on whether people are in favour of introducing English as a subject in Standard I. If a majority of parents are in favour of having English as a subject from Standard I, then we may introduce English as a subject in Marathi and Konkani schools, officials said.GT This is the first-ever educational survey to be held in Goa.(NT) - DEATHS OBITUARIES - SALVADOR DO MUNDO: Anthony Paulo Cardozo. Husband of Piedade Cardozo, father of Francisco Xavier Cardozo, father-in-law of Laurina. Grandfather of Lina, Lily, Hilary and Charles. MARGAO: Ligorio Gladstone 'Glady' Andrade. Husband of Ligia, father/in-law of Judith (St Joseph's Convent School Nagoa-Verna), Jose (Zito), grandfather of Savio and Joslyn, brother of late Olga, Joaquim/Olga, Fr Wilfred Piedade, Alvito/Irmina, Wilson, Gohen and late William/Ethel. VELIM: Nobert Fernandes, b 1964. Son of late Francis/Rosita, brother of Nora, Neville, Nellicia, brother-in-law of Savio, Ivor, Venicia, godchild of Fr Johnsie (Ambaulim), uncle of Donna, Don Cyril, Nestor, Aston, Ivica and Ivanna. Funeral to St Rock's on Apr 23. Khushali Dessai, a freedom fighter died in the early hours of Friday morning at his residence
[Goanet]Need Congress to Power or President's Rule better for 5 years in Goa.
Dear Goan, How long this thing going on and other State laugh for goan as we support BJP in Goa.As you all learn lesson in Goa how Parrikar fooling with Goan and we Goan must not fool with Parrikar or BJP we need Remo fernandes to come in Congress and that end as he is right person for CM in goa, we Prayer that our Dream of Congress come true and Congress in power,Bring back the Former Congress President Nirmala Sawant she is right holy and Wise Lady of Congress our leaders kept her out and think that their are very important in Congress Party. NOt at all to become congress Strong in Goa we need Nirmala sawant as CM in Goa. she is Second Soina Gandhi of Goa i Beg to all my Goan do right and SAy Congress SAVE Goa ! kill BJP in Goa yours Congress Lover Stephen Fernandes Muscat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Queen =?iso-8859-1?b?S2V0ZXZhbpJz?= remains are still elusive
Queens remains are still elusive Devika Sequeira in Panaji The Archaeological Survey of Indias 20-year search for the relics of Queen Ketevan in Old Goa has ended in disappointment. But the excavations offer an intriguing and significant insight into 16th century Goa. Setting to rest a debate that has engaged historians and archaeologists for over 20 years, the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) announced earlier this week that though it had managed to locate the burial site of Queen Ketevan of Georgia amidst the ruins of the St Augustine complex in Old Goa, the queen's remains were not at the site. Coping stone We have conclusively identified the coping stone which, according to historical accounts, held the black box containing the queens remains. But the black box itself and the relics are not there, N Taher, the ASIs chief archaeologist in Goa told Deccan Herald. Some fragments of bone and stone inscriptions have been sent for scientific analysis. But archaeologists doubt these would be related to the Ketevan case. While Taher believes that the findings are conclusive enough to end the long- drawn debate over the 16th century queen's relics, for the man who launched the search 20 years ago, the missing black box comes as a huge disappointment. It leaves one with the nagging feeling that somehow the truth has not been found out, says archaeologist S K Joshi, a fellow with the Indian Centre of Historical Research. Dr Joshi recalls how this intriguing archaeological search began when he headed the ASI in Goa in 1985 after a diplomatic request by the then Soviet Union. Elevated to sainthood, the martyred Queen Ketevan of Georgia is held in high regard in her country to this day, and teams of experts from Russia and Georgia have been dispatched to Old Goa in the past to help locate her mortal remains. A prisoner Taken prisoner by emperor Shah Abbas of Persia in 1613, Queen Ketevan was held captive for 10 years in Shiraz. She was tortured and strangled to death on September 22, 1624 for refusing to convert to Islam, say historical accounts. Jesuit priest and history researcher Fr Moreno D'Souza who has spent years poring over historical records related to Old Goa, concludes that an arm and hand of the Georgian queen was brought to Goa by Augustinian friars in 1627 and encased in a black box in the chapter chapel of the huge complex. So where did the relics go? The ASI is on the right track and has all the circumstantial evidence to prove the location of the chapel and chamber. But with the relics missing, we can only conclude the obvious: that the Augustinians, who held the queen in such high reverence, took away the black box when they were expelled from Goa by the Portuguese government, says conservationist Percival Noronha. Starting with the Our Lady of Grace Church in 1572, by 1602 the Augustinians had built an impressive complex on the Holy Hill at Old Goa with a seminary, convent, library, cloisters, dormitories, galleries and a number of cells, says the ASI. Seat of learning It was one of the greatest seats of learning in Asia at the time, with 300 teachers, 3,000 students and the biggest library on this side of the globe, says Dr Joshi. After the Portuguese government expelled religious orders from Goa in 1832, the complex gave way to ruin, with the vault collapsing in 1842 and its towers and facade crumbling by 1938. The ASIs 20 years excavation has painstakingly brought to light the ruins of what was once an architectural marvel. In the process of uncovering the truth about the 16th century queen, the ASI has also unearthed the ruins of five altars, eight side chapels, a cloister, six tombs and the interior of a church profusely decorated with glazed tiles. The excavation can only add to the significance of the world heritage site. Now that we know that the relics are not there, we can move on with consolidating the archaeological sight, says Taher. With excavation work still on, the ASI is uncertain that a tourist walk through will be permitted just yet. We have still to decide how much of the site we can expose to the public. Tourism, point out Taher, often destroys archaeological sites. (Deccan Herald) - Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com UPCOMING EVENTS IN KUWAIT: MAY BALL 2005 Organized by Goan Welfare Society (GWS)-Kuwait Date: 12th May 2005, Venue: Safir Palace Hotel, Riggea Band: Stepping Stones Highlights: Crowning of the MAY QUEEN 2005. Enjoy the Goan hospitality at its best.
[Goanet]Re: Reality check for superpower India
in a country with a population of more than a billion, there remain a staggering 900 million-odd people untouched by the much-hyped telecommunication revolution.[Mario Goveia, citing IHT, April 23] Leave alone the claim about superpower status, this neglect of telecom may even reflect on the nature of our vaunted democracy! The explosion of satellite TV during the 90s and the attention to highways may however have been a somewhat reassuring factor in this regard. These of course are not definitive measures one way or another but are perhaps indicative of the real state of affairs which we otherwise take for granted.
[Goanet]Women priests!
Quaint and archaic thoughts in the present day, but perhaps they were the reason for not having women priests in the religions that centered around Israel and Arabia: Judaism,Christianity and Islam. Women were possessions like camels,cattle and goats in most parts of the world then, they are commodities in some areas even now.Seems crazy to me that we suggest menopausal woman priesthood or hysterectomy or ligation as solutions. It may be a good idea to consider vasectomy for the priests, specially in the scandal hit church in USAunless marriage is permitted. If a woman actually becomes unclean during the menses, it is rather surprising that the Son of God should have been born to a woman. He could have descended directly from heaven ...just like he ascended. Sorry folks, those who do not subscribe to virgin birth have no right to discuss who should become a priest in catholicism. Immaculate Conception and Mother of God are integral to Catholicism. Communion is prohibited only if one is in a state of sin, a highly subjective topic in today's world. . From: domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hindu girls from our ward sit in the balcao and spend 3-5 days without doing anything. I thought they were punished by their parents and made to sit there. As I grew up, I learned that they sat there because they were not allowed to touch anything in the house; they were declared unclean. Hindu girls/women also do not go into a temple when they have their menses. To my knowledge, some Christian women in the 1950's and 1960's did not go to church when they were unclean; some would go to church but would not receive Holy Communion because they thought it was inappropriate of them to do so. Can women 'celebrate mass' when they are physically unclean? If allowed to become priests, will they stop celebrating mass for 3-5 days a month when they are unclean, or it does not matter? If it matters, they could become priests after their menopause, or they could have their uteruses removed just before the ordination - this step should not be taken prior to ordination as there are some who change their mind at the last moment. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA ... In the present day unit families, if the wife does not cook during her periods, will the hindu families survive on fruits and salads for 3 to 5 days? Do men work with the women through the month or not. Affadd zalea are words that I heard in my childhood. ONLY IN MY CHILDHOOD. It is not a socially and economically viable statement today. If we can change in the work place, we can change in the Church. The moot question is : DO WE NEED TO CHANGE? This is better debated at the next Vatican Synod [that is the forum for the change] than on Goanet. Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
Dear Cajetan, It is important that we remain rooted in facts, always. Goa SuRaj Party is yet to win a village Panchayat seat. I doubt if it will ever win an Assembly seat. Four candidates that used the party could not muster a thousand votes between them in the last election to the Assembly. Elections to the assembly are not won through brownie points on Goanet, much as Floriano Lobo[President for life of GSRP] would like to believe. . From: Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether we should choose the Goa Suraj party: How can we be sure that the Goa Suraj Party will get rid of all Goa's problems? The people who actually do the work are the beaureucrats and Govt. servants. How will Goa Suraj change their lethargic attitude? Sack everyone who does not perform? If they do it, virtually all Govt servants will be sacked. Will Christians be disenfranchised? I think we are simply overreacting by saying that Christians will be disenfranchised by the BJP. Disenfranchising Christians is just not practical in a high-literacy state where the Christian population is significant. A few incidents here and there caused by overzealous people cannot be generalized as an assault on any religion. Not bringing Parrikar back to power, just because of this hypothetical fear, we will be depriving ourselves of an efficient Government. If we cannot appreciate the development Parrikar achieved for Goa, I think we don't deserve any development at all. I am not a BJP activist or party worker and had thought Goa would be ruined when Parrikar came to power 4 years ago. My attitude towards his rule has since changed after seeing his developmental efforts and efficiency. We need an educated and non-corrupt person as the CM. Rather than going with a general hate wave, I would request all readers to apply their mind and elect a progressive Government. Cajetan Rego Comprem, Tivim Goa The literate people are more easily frightened than the illiterate ones. The normal voting percentage of Catholic voters is low. Inject a little fear and it will tend towards zero. If not try to get some witnesses to file statements or affidavits about the Fontainhas name plaque smashing case of 18 June, 2004. It will soon be time to comemorate its anniversary with a requiem mass at St.Sebastian or San Tome chapel. In Dharavi slums there would have been a 'raasta roko' or 'chakka jamm'. The VCD 'Goa Freedom Struggle' was produced by the Directorate of Education and inspired by Manohar Parrikar[ according to the 'credits' on the film]. Was it a stray incident or was parrikar one of the few over-zealous persons? Parrikar gave us an efficient Government which gave us completed bridges [even across the Chapora river between Siolim and Chopdem] that one thought would be forever under construction or ,worse , proposed. If you think it was a non-corrupt government, please re-read Manohar Parrikar's own statements on Mr. 10% Dhavlikar, Mr.Crorepati Monserate and Mr. Corrupt Madkaikar . All the three worthies were part of his non-corrupt government till 28 January,2004. I do not know what Parrikar would have said if his 'stone pelting' Minister for Law and the 'rave king' Minister for Agriculture or 'Belgaum professional' Minister for Forests had deserted him or if there was an alternative to the Disneyland former Minister of Tourism or the latter day ramponkar had a chance of shifting his nets to the otherside. It would be interesting to know his mind. Having said that, if there is a General Election tomorrow, the BJP would win majority of the seats hands down. Its candidate would have my vote, too. We only fool ourselves if we think that Congressmen in Goa will learn any lesson from the past experience. They have no time to think. It would be better for Ravi Naik to shift and lead the MGP to win 7 Assembly seats and become a coalition CM with the support of Bhandaris across party lines, than to be the GPCCI Chief and be a Congress MLA in the wilderness of the opposition benches. Even the one-man-party of Dr.Willy is better of than the Congress in Goa today. At least there is some credibility. Viva Goa. Miguel
Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice
Mervyn3.0 Can you accuse only the US of this? I am not seeing any ethics in the politics of any country lately! In fact, had your political leaders practiced humanitarian ethics instead of religion in the last few years, this world would have been a much better place to live in. How many women contribute to this forum anyway? PS. Since no woman has spoken up for female catholic priests, we can safely concur that they are quite happy with the status quo :-)
Re: [Goanet] LINK: Another Goanetter makes the news: Joaquim Goes
From: Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] LINK: Another Goanetter makes the news: Joaquim Goes Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:21:10 -0400 Thanks Santosh! NASA has included our findings in a report that it has prepared for a Congressional hearing and our paper is going to be distributed on Capitol Hill - but as you say I doubt anyone that matters is really listening. Yes I would have had something to contribute to the polemic on global warming in this forum but unfortunately I was in the Antarctica experiencing global warming first hand! Did you see the paper about the Antarctic peninsula melting in the same issue of Science? the Eurasian Landmass Is Making the Arabian Sea More Productive, Joaquim I. Goes, Prasad G. Thoppil, Helga do R Gomes, and John T. Fasullo. Science 22 April 2005: 545-547. Congratulations on the SCIENCE paper! I wish you were here during the crotchety global warming debate on Goanet. We could certainly have used some input from a real environmental scientist, Santosh My dear Helga and Joaquim, Ny heartiest congratulations on your meritorious work. Must have been wonderfull uo there. For a few days I was up on the other side of you: In the region of Kiruna, Jokmokk and Galivare, off the Arctic, covering a military exercise. I thought about you down deep under, During an event one lady member of our group had to pee. The champeroning military people had no alternative but to helicopter her back to the hotel, ca 120 kms away, to perform the needfull. Alfred _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: [Goanet]Goan Musicians
From: Fausto V. D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Goan Musicians Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:12:13 -0400 Anthony Gonsalves Sebastian D'souza (Seby) made it very big in Bollywood their names featured as assistant music directors and they commanded great respect from film music directors. Seby helped many Goans to get jobs in hindi film music industry. Another musician who contributed a great deal to bollywood is Balthazar Fernandes who was the only musician sought after for writing music to string instruments. Sorry, Lawrence de Tiracol is not a musician, not to humilate him but to put facts straight he will not know the ABCD of music, but may be composing tune naturally like our many tiatrists. Leo fernandes writes: GOANS, MUSIC, BOLLYWOOD; Leo Fernandes writes in from Chatam, New Jersey: You have written Goan musicians have contributed to Bollywood films, but have anyone become a music director in Indian films? With the exception of Frank Fernand of Amchem Noxib. Are they currently in limelight or still in the background. The success of Indian music directors owe a lot to our Goan musicians -- but they were never brought to limelight or forge ahead like Remo Fernandes. Upcoming is Lawrence de Tiracol with his own music compositions has lifted up our Concanim songs. You have overlooked the veritable titans: Mangueshkar and Bhonsle. Alfred de Tavares _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:28:06 -0700 (PDT) --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be right on this one. However, the Vatican has a different view of how women should be treated. So the choices I have are: 1) I toe the Vaticans line. 2) I search for another religion where women have equal status. 3) I become a cafeteria Catholic. :-) Mervyn, You know there is a fourth choice. Why keep up the pretense when you have lost faith? Be honest with yourself. Give up the whole charade. Liberate yourself. Live a reason and evidence-based life. Practice humanitarian ethics and rational morality. Imbibe spirituality from the products of human creativity such as music, art, poetry, literature, dance and science. But don't throw out the goodies. Celebrate all the religious festivals. Enjoy all the fun rituals. Expand your cafetaria to include other religions, because the only things that we know are real, for sure, are the food, the song and dance, the company and the fun. Cheers, Santosh And Santosh, when you are thru with song, dance ,,, all rioteous ribaldry and hangover holds you in its vengeful wrath the only words that your heart thru lips utter... shall be: Saiba pau ... Saiba bogos... By the way what may we -- Gabe with his enduring Stella, Cecil with Caju, purportedly, from Siolim and I with crystal ABSOLUTE -- offer you? Alfred _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
[Goanet]Reality check for superpower India
India has a long way to go. International Herald Tribune News cuts both ways This should make India sit up. While the Indian government appears elated that the country now has 100 million phone connections, International Herald Tribune points out, in a country with a population of more than a billion, there remain a staggering 900 million-odd people untouched by the much-hyped telecommunication revolution. There are just nine telephones (mobiles or fixed lines) for every 100 people in India, and given that most people with a cellphone also have a land line, that means no more than around 6% of the population has access to the phone, IHT argued. As usual, these technological advances have entirely sidestepped the nations vast rural areas and just 1.7% of villagers have their own phones, it added. The newspaper says that India is trailing far behind its Asian rival China, which has 600 million subscribers. Apart from Bangladesh and a few impoverished African nations, there arent many countries that have a lower proportion of the population on the phone.
Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice
Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know there is a fourth choice. Why keep up the pretense when you have lost faith? Be honest with yourself. Give up the whole charade. Liberate yourself. Live a reason and evidence-based life. Santosh, I have had two spiritual experiences in this life. One experience had nothing to do with the catholic faith, the other, could be seen by any non-believer as a mere coincidence. Both experiences made me realize that there is a spiritual world out there. Practice humanitarian ethics and rational morality. Imbibe spirituality from the products of human creativity such as music, art, poetry, literature, dance and science. But don't throw out the goodies. Celebrate all the religious festivals. Enjoy all the fun rituals. Expand your cafeteria to include other religions, because the only things that we know are real, for sure, are the food, the song and dance, the company and the fun. In Tanzania, where I grew up, one gets exposed to all religions. You get invited to weddings of people of other faith (and of no common faith). I also have been to funerals where a Muslim priest will lead prayers for the deceased at the graveyard, after the Catholic priest has finished his say. Weddings, baptisms, funerals are all ceremonial. They are not going to get you anywhere in the spiritual world. Whether you find the spiritual world or not depends on your behavior, IMHO. My behavior, thanks to those convent nuns again, is based on one sentence i.e. love your neighbor as you love yourself. And my neighbor includes the eight year old, with festering wounds, begging outside the State Bank of India, Mapusa. It also includes all the eight year olds and new orphans in Iraq. Protecting them, is my idea of spirituality. I will agree with you that practicing humanitarian ethics and rational morality may be better than religion, and especially so when one has not found the spiritual world. In fact, had your political leaders practiced humanitarian ethics instead of religion in the last few years, this world would have been a much better place to live in. Since I have no doubt that there is a spiritual world, I am going to stick to the third choice. My cafeteria will include Marlon's sanaa's and feni, your humanitarian ethics suggestion and even the lack of women priests. Mervyn3.0 PS. Since no woman has spoken up for female catholic priests, we can safely concur that they are quite happy with the status quo :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]More democracy in the church - good or bad?
Except for a few of my catholic friends who are out there, very few of them believe in any or all of these christian mythologies, or should I say myths. If a person today were to claim virginal conception, a simple genetic test would have settled the issue. If the person still persisted such a ridiculous claim, they would be locked up in a mental institution. I believe that most so called catholics would fail to meet the test of their religion. This leads me to believe that this religion is far less relevant to the masses that it claims to be and is destined to head towards the dustbin of history. Marlon --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I think the Catholic Church will continue to grow but lose market share overall, many educated people and learned scholars see religion in a totally different light from other worldly matters. For example, no one who demands scientific proof of everything, and bases all their opinions on normal facts and logic, would ever be a Catholic. Once one accepts the whole list I gave of Catholic fundamentals that can only be taken as matters of faith, namely prophecies, miracles, the Holy Trinity, virgin birth, resurrection, two bodily ascensions into heaven, the body and blood of Christ in communion, life after death, etc. it is no longer inconsistent to accept other things that do not fit within normal and rational human concepts.
[Goanet]Digital resources... there and here
http://www.ucnewswire.org/news_viewer.cfm?story_PK=4203 UCSB libraries, Stanford partner with Library of Congress to form archive (Santa Barbara, Calif.) -- Concerned that millions of nationally important digital information resources are in danger of being lost or corrupted, the Library of Congress has partnered with eight institutions -- including the University of California, Santa Barbara -- to begin a $15 million effort to build a nationwide digital collection and preservation system. We need to be concerned about information reources in Goa too. Rochelle Pinto and others have already made the point. FN _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.
[Goanet]Correcting Goa politis
Let's keep in mind that all corrupt people are rejoicing these days because the Congress Govt may form the next Govt soon. Even the so called Parrikar friends or even some of his former MLA's are joining the Congress because they will be able to loot more money from Goa coffers with Congress at the helm. Opportunism has become the reality in Goa. Remember these corrupt people are only interested in themselves (me first and Goa afterwards). This type of Government usually do not last long because of competing self interests as being proven in Goa. Corrupt people elect corrupt governments because their self interests can be served. Self interest is another form corruption. Remember those days of mass corruption when Congress was in power. Remember those days when MLA's became rich overnight. Remember those days of instability -- who lost? It is the honest principled Goans who have lost, who do not have any self interests but for Goa, who at present may not have a voice. Best regards, Carlos
Re: [Goanet]Re: The prize winning reason - Why should women not be ordained priests
George, The prize should go to the clear-thinking, realistic entry, which is obviously mine, not the whimsical and unrealistic wishing for something that cannot be, the pontificating by those who will never be pontiffs or the chauvinistic and sexist entries based irrelevently on male and female characteristics which have nothing to do with this situation. --- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ralph rau goanet@goanet.org wrote: I for one cannot imagine a female Pope. Can you ? Yes, very easily. The Church will not collapse with women priests or Popes. It will prosper, thrive, and grow. I am not sure if you are the winner in the Male-chauvinist, sexist category as a number of goanetters seem to give you a run for your money. Regards, George
[Goanet]Goan Summer Fruits Zambllam, Kannttam, Churnam ani Poddkovam!
The summer has already begun in Goa and it reminds me of my childhood days when we ate several delicious summer fruits without spending a single paisa. Here are four of those fruits: 1) JAMBOLAN (ZAMBLLAM) The jambolan is a native to India. Seedlings grow slowly the first year, rapidly thereafter, and may reach 12 ft. in 2 years, and begin bearing in 8 to 10 years. Grafted trees bear in 4 to 7 years. No particular cultural attention is required. Organic fertilizer is applied after harvest but withheld in advance of flowering and fruiting to assure a good crop. If a tree does not bear heavily, it may be girdled or root-pruned to slow down vegetative growth. Jambolan is fast-growing, reaching full size in 40 years. It ranges up to 100 ft. in India, and it may attain a spread of around 36 ft. and a trunk diameter of 2 or 3 ft. It usually forks into multiple trunks a short distance from the ground. Sometimes, the main trunk of a Beddos (tree bearing small jambolan,) which is usually very tall and wide, has a cavity created by detachment of a branch. These cavities are used by gar (monitor lizard) as their dwellings. The paddaii (woodpecker,) sanvor (magpie) and kir (parrot) also use the cavities to make their nests therein. The tree is wind-resistant and sometimes is closely planted in rows along roadsides as a windbreak. If topped regularly, such plantings form a dense, massive hedge. In Chinvar, Anjuna, on the way to Siolim, we have around 300-meter stretch of road covered with jambolan hedge; hence, the stretch is called Zambllinim. The bark on the lower part of the tree is rough, cracked, flaking and discolored; further up it is smooth and light-gray. The turpentine-scented evergreen leaves are opposite; oblong-oval or elliptic, blunt or tapering to a point at the apex; pinkish when young; when mature, leathery, glossy, dark-green above, lighter beneath, with conspicuous, yellowish midrib. The fruit, in clusters of just a few or 10 to 50, is oblong, often curved; ½ to 2 inches long, and usually turns from green to light-magenta, then dark-purple or nearly black as it ripens. The skin is thin, smooth, glossy, and adherent. The pulp is purple or white, very juicy, and normally encloses a single, oblong, green or brown seed, up to 1 ½ inches in length, though some fruits have 2 to 5 seeds tightly compressed within a leathery coat, and some are seedless. The fruit is usually astringent, sometimes unpalatably so, and the flavor varies from acid to fairly sweet. Zambllam is yet another Goan fruit delicacy which is abundantly available in every village. During the summer season, one can see scores of children as well as adults zamblli pondak (under a jambolan tree) either picking up fallen zambllam or using a manchi xintari with kelkem (bamboo stick with a hook at its top end) to shake a branch and loosen zambllam to fall, or a person climbs a tree and shakes a branch thus making ripe zambllam fall. If you see a young lad in a tree, he is definitely one of the local Goan boys, as Bomboikars or Goans living abroad mostly dont know how to climb a tree because they dont get such opportunities in Bomboi or abroad. Jambolan of good size and quality, having a sweet or sub-acid flavor and a minimum of astringency, are eaten raw and may be made into tarts, sauces and jam. Astringent fruits are improved in palatability by soaking them in salt water or pricking them, rubbing them with a little salt, and letting them stand for an hour. All but decidedly inferior fruits are utilized for juice which is much like grape juice. When extracting juice from cooked jambolan, it is recommended that it be allowed to drain out without squeezing the fruit and it will thus be less astringent. The white-fleshed jambolan has adequate pectin and makes a very stiff jelly unless cooking is brief. The more common purple-fleshed yields richly colored jelly but it is deficient in pectin and requires the addition of a commercial jelling agent or must be combined with pectin rich fruits such as unripe or sour guavas. Good quality jambolan juice is excellent for sherbet, syrup and squash. The latter is a bottled drink prepared by cooking the crushed fruits, pressing out the juice, combining it with sugar and water and adding citric acid and sodium benzoate as a preservative. The best way to eat zambllam is to pluck them from the tree, apply a little salt and keep them in the sun for at least an hour. You then just place them in your mouth and suck them from within where they keep on melting. Before you know it they are empty! I still cant forget the incident that took place when I was about 8 years old. One of my neighbors who was about 4 years older than I, was collecting Beddsam (small zambllam) by throwing stones at a tall Beddos but he wouldnt give me any, and I couldnt take them forcibly from him because he
[Goanet]Wikipedia... in Marathi
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Re: [Goanet] LINK: Another Goanetter makes the news: Joaquim Goes
Thanks Santosh! NASA has included our findings in a report that it has prepared for a Congressional hearing and our paper is going to be distributed on Capitol Hill - but as you say I doubt anyone that matters is really listening. Yes I would have had something to contribute to the polemic on global warming in this forum but unfortunately I was in the Antarctica experiencing global warming first hand! Did you see the paper about the Antarctic peninsula melting in the same issue of Science? the Eurasian Landmass Is Making the Arabian Sea More Productive, Joaquim I. Goes, Prasad G. Thoppil, Helga do R Gomes, and John T. Fasullo. Science 22 April 2005: 545-547. Congratulations on the SCIENCE paper! I wish you were here during the crotchety global warming debate on Goanet. We could certainly have used some input from a real environmental scientist, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]Re: Women priests !!!
I don't define equality as sameness - behaving just like a man is not my idea of being equal to him. I know some women do, and they're entitled to their opinions, of course. But dressing up in a suit like a man and carrying around a briefcase like a man and working at TRADITIONALLY men's jobs is not my idea of fun OR equality. I'm secure enough as a woman to not have the need to define myself according to a male ruler. Sure, I'll never be Pope, but the Pope will never be Mom, either. I wouldn't give up THAT title for the world. Viviana George Pinto wrote: Mario and Viviana: I am afraid your logic will lead the Taliban in Afganistan and others to conclude that is ok to discriminate against women in the manner they have: that's our religion, take it or leave it. No room for ratioanl thinking, just be obedient to the Dark Ages. Here are some insights into the issue sent to me by a Goan woman by private email so I have not included her name. I am forwarding without comment.
Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans
Is there anyone out there who is NOT a cafeteria Catholic at some level? Just curious. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/04/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. Atan upkar kor (please do us a favor) can you write a post on Cafeteria Goans? :=)) Regards, GL RESPONSE: It is not my handiwork and I sincerely apologise for not having given the URL, Here it is:- http://www.concernedcatholics.org/cafeteria.htm
Re: [Goanet]Re: Women priests !!!
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario and Viviana: I am afraid your logic will lead the Taliban in Afganistan and others to conclude that is ok to discriminate against women in the manner they have: that's our religion, take it or leave it. No room for rational thinking, just be obedient to the Dark Ages. Here are some insights into the issue sent to me by a Goan woman by private email so I have not included her name. I am forwarding without comment. Mario replies: George, I wouldn't worry too much about the Taliban's attitude towards women if I were you. Firstly, they were blatant misogynists, not just discriminatory. Secondly, they are currently in the process of becoming obsolete. You can question the Catholic religion all you want, and make rational arguments till the cows come home, and all you'll get in return is major angst. I don't think you can dispute the fact that the Catholic Church is a take it or leave it proposition. In fact, Benedict XVI, who is now infallible in the Catholic Church in matters of faith and morals, and also it's leading theologian, has written that he sees no problem with a smaller church as an alternative to compromising on core values. So, there you have it. The insights by the Goan woman are reflected and duplicated by similar opinions all over the place, including some leading nuns. Makes no difference, because the Church looks at these things through different lenses. The Church alleges that women are no less than men, they just have a different role. Whether you or me or Viviana like it or not, until the Holy Ghost inspires Benedict XVI or one of his successors that something should change, it ain't gonna happen, as we say in the hood. Finally, I wish you liberal thinkers would study how democratically and well the distaff side of our Church is run when compared to the top-down it's the Pope's way or the highway governance of the priest side. Orders of nuns are largely autonomous and run from the bottom up. Every Mother Superior is elected by her peers, ambition is a demerit, and perceived leadership and personal example rules the day. In addition to studying the dabbawallahs in Mumbai, Harvard should study the governance of any Order of Nuns, each of which is a true major multi-national organization that is organized and managed better than most corporations. The Mother Superior General is elected by the regional Mother Superiors and functions like a CEO, but serves only a maximum of two, six-year terms, then goes back to the mailroom where she began. I have a cousin who is one of these amazing women and I am in total awe of the management principles and style. By the way, there are now fifteen, yes, I said fifteen, orders of nuns that are headquartered in Europe, whose Mother Superior Generals are from India. As one would expect they come from either Goa or Mangalore or Kerala. About eight of them are headquartered in Rome, the others in various other parts of Europe. If one of our journalists are interested in researching and writing about this, please let me know and I'll hook you up.
[Goanet]Re: The prize winning reason - Why should women not be ordained priests
--- ralph rau goanet@goanet.org wrote: I for one cannot imagine a female Pope. Can you ? Yes, very easily. The Church will not collapse with women priests or Popes. It will prosper, thrive, and grow. I am not sure if you are the winner in the Male-chauvinist, sexist category as a number of goanetters seem to give you a run for your money. Regards, George
[Goanet]Re: Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans
Santosh Catholic practice and teaching has changed over times at the Papacy level. Does it mean the present Pope is a cafeteria Catholic too? Some of his predecessors allowed married priests. Mass used to said in Latin, now Mass can be said in other languages. Papal infallibility on certain doctrinal matters is only about 175 years old I think. The Pope as head of state including being a religious leader is also fairly new. Sainthood as an honor was also introduced much later after the Church's founding. There have been many more changes in Church history over time. Popes have chosen to interpret Church teachings over time and made changes. The right-wing fundamentalists would like us to believe that Church history is one unbroken chain of constant practices. Baloney. They try and intimidate progressive reforms by using the word 'cafeteria Catholic' in a pejorative, derogatory way. So I ask again: isn't the present Pope a cafeteria Catholic too compared to some of his predecessors who obviously had different ideas? Gabe, Merwyn don't be intimidated by the name-calling, stand your ground and fight for justice and reform. Regards, George
Re: [Goanet]More democracy in the church - good or bad?
--- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the feeling that the catholic church and its most ardent followers are not willing to compromise on its core values, customs and beliefs, even if it results in a gradual loss of its population base. Mario responds: Marlon, you don't have to rely simply on your feelings. No greater an authority than Papa Ratzi has already opined in his writings that, rather than compromise on core principles, he would have no problems with a smaller church. This from the foremost theologian in the Catholic Church today, and now the guy who is infallible in matters of faith and morals. No wonder the liberal wing is experiencing consternation and major heartburn. While I think the Catholic Church will continue to grow but lose market share overall, many educated people and learned scholars see religion in a totally different light from other worldly matters. For example, no one who demands scientific proof of everything, and bases all their opinions on normal facts and logic, would ever be a Catholic. Once one accepts the whole list I gave of Catholic fundamentals that can only be taken as matters of faith, namely prophecies, miracles, the Holy Trinity, virgin birth, resurrection, two bodily ascensions into heaven, the body and blood of Christ in communion, life after death, etc. it is no longer inconsistent to accept other things that do not fit within normal and rational human concepts.
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:55:14 -0700 (PDT) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. The implication of this thread, and presumably the notion that Cafetaria Catholics are somehow bad or impure, is thoroughly laughable from an objective standpoint. It is self evident that the world would be better off with less fundamentalists and more cafeteria Catholics, more eclectic and ecumenical Christians, more sarvadharmi and niradharmi Hindus, more reformed and liberated Muslims, and more secular-minded individuals of all creeds. Fundamentalism and religious conservatism of any sort are not consistent with the goals of a progressive, enlightened and free society. Cheers, Santosh My dear Santosh, Samir and other naughty boys that hounded him out of our sublime intellectual fora. The multi-proferred Nobel-laureate, Dr. et al Leo Rebello. Sufferingly yours, Alfred de T. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Chruchill edge out Mahindra United
Chruchill edge out Mahindra United April 23, 2005 19:39 IST Churchill Brothers survived anxious moments in the second half to edge past Mahindra United 2-1 and move to eighth place in the National Football League match played at Nehru stadium in Margao on Saturday. Churchill started with a flourish and took the lead in the 10th minute through Yusuf Yakubu. But the jeepmen fought back after the deficit and restored parity in the 21st minute through their Brazilian recruit Marcos M R da Silva. Dominating for most of the match, Churchill scored the winner through man-of-the-match Marcos Pereira who powerfully headed in substitute Roque Barreto' lob of free kick from the right. Mahindras tried hard in the closing stage but could not find the equaliser as they failed to beat alert 'keeper Marc Mascarenhas. Churchill, who are fighting to avoid relegation, now moved to eighth place with 20 points from 19 matches, putting pressure on Mohun Bagan who are two points behind them with one match less. Mahindras remained on fifth place with 29 points from 19 matches. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[Goanet]RINGE (Inedible soap producing berries!)
Life in Goa in the 1950s and 1960s was not a piece of cake. People in those days lived a tough life, but they neither had high aspirations nor killed themselves to amass wealth as is the case now; they lived for the day. They depended solely on Mother Nature for their daily requirements. They say: Cleanliness is next to godliness and man has always followed this rule right from the early days. He always looked after his body and kept himself hygienically clean by bathing in natural water be it from a well, lake or a spring. He did not own cupboards filled with clothes but had just enough to clad himself. He washed his few clothes regularly. However, detergents were not as abundantly available then as they are today. So, with what did he wash his clothes? He made use of natural detergent RINGE (small, round, inedible soap producing berries.) Every ward then had a few Ringeachim zaddam (inedible berry trees.) Once ringe were ripe, they would fall to the ground just like boram (sweet-sour local berries.) Every morning, people would gather under the trees and collect as many ringe as they needed for the day. They would sometimes gather extra ringe and dry and store them in a panttulo (basket made of bamboo) as a contingency stock. Here is how ringe were used. Housewives would fill a bucket with water, place two handfuls of ringe in it and leave them to soak overnight for maximum extraction. In the olden days, washing of clothes was one of the early morning chores so that they could put clothes out to dry as soon as the sun rose. As soon as women woke up in the morning, they would stir the water in the bucket with their hands in order to check lather formation which was as good as any detergent today. They would then place dirty clothes in the bucket and leave them to soak until they finished preparing breakfast for the family. By that time, clothes would get well-soaked, thus making their washing job much easier for them. Clothes were washed mostly on a large rop duvpachi fatorn (clothes washing stone) which was placed on a pedestal of stones. Normal washing was done by pressing and rubbing clothes on a washing stone, but thick and heavily soiled clothes were either beaten with a solid, round tonnko (piece of wood) preferably of bamboo, or they would just swirl clothes on washing stone every swirl was accompanied by a sound: Shh S! Shh S! Shh S! In the case of dirty stains, they would pick some ringe from the bucket and rub them into the spots, and the stains would completely disappear. We never used ringe at home to wash our clothes but I collected and passed them on to my friends who could not afford to buy washing soap. Besides using ringe for washing clothes they were also used for catching fish in the summer, especially thigur (walking catfish) from shallow ponds. Here again, the process was quite simple. They collected panttlo bhor (a basketful) ringe and threw the whole lot in a pond of knee-deep water. Usually, it is not very easy to catch thigur because they live in chikol (silt.) As soon as the ringe gets soaked, the chemical in them is released in the water thus affecting the fish, especially their eyes. It takes more than an hour for the effect to penetrate through the silt, and when it does, thigur come out of the silt and move about restlessly in the water. This is when the catchers cast their koblem (a round bamboo ring fixed with net) and make their day with a sizeable catch. I dont think anyone today catches thigur this way. Even if we wished, there are no more ringeachim zaddam, at least I dont see any left in my ward. I did join Gaumvaddy boys a few times in the late 1950s in thigur catching adventures. There is quite a big shallow pond in the late Dr. Floriano DSouzas plot just behind the present day Go Carting Track, known as Babuchem voll (thick jungle strip belonging to Babu - a nickname then given to Dr. Floriano, the dentist.) We discovered the pond through one of the boys from Dr. Florianos ward, ximer (Arpora border,) and we carried out our fishing raids in the pond with that boys assistance. So, you see, ghorcho bedi, bhailo chor mhunntat tem sarkem (the saying theft with the help of an insider is true!) Friends always offered me my share of thigur and other fishes like khorvo, konkari, denkle, etc., but I gave it back to them because they needed it more than me - most of them could not afford to buy fish. However, I was always there to help them in their struggle be it in fishing or anything else. I tasted thigur only once in my lifetime. CLOTHES IRONING: Unlike today, there was no electricity available during our childhood so that we could plug in an iron box and iron our clothes. Ironing clothes was quite a difficult task; we had to use kotttteanchem ferr (coconut
[Goanet]Goan Musicians
Anthony Gonsalves Sebastian D'souza (Seby) made it very big in Bollywood their names featured as assistant music directors and they commanded great respect from film music directors. Seby helped many Goans to get jobs in hindi film music industry. Another musician who contributed a great deal to bollywood is Balthazar Fernandes who was the only musician sought after for writing music to string instruments. Sorry, Lawrence de Tiracol is not a musician, not to humilate him but to put facts straight he will not know the ABCD of music, but may be composing tune naturally like our many tiatrists. Leo fernandes writes: GOANS, MUSIC, BOLLYWOOD; Leo Fernandes writes in from Chatam, New Jersey: You have written Goan musicians have contributed to Bollywood films, but have anyone become a music director in Indian films? With the exception of Frank Fernand of Amchem Noxib. Are they currently in limelight or still in the background. The success of Indian music directors owe a lot to our Goan musicians -- but they were never brought to limelight or forge ahead like Remo Fernandes. Upcoming is Lawrence de Tiracol with his own music compositions has lifted up our Concanim songs.
[Goanet]The prize winning reason - Why should women not be ordained priests
Every priest can eventually hope to become the Pope. I for one cannot imagine a female Pope. Can you ?
[Goanet]YGC Bahrain May Queen Ball on 05-05-05
YGC Bahrain May Queen Ball The Young Goans Club, Bahrain has announced their annual May Queen Ball. It will be held at the Palace Inn Hotel on May 5, (05.05.05) starting at 8.00 p.m. The highlight of this annual event will be the YGC May Queen contest which is open to all nationalities. All those interested to compete are welcome to contact the co-ordinator Rosario Pereira on 39808508. Entrance for the show is free for members and guests will be charged BD: 2.500 per head inclusive of a buffet. Members can collect their invitation cards on April 28 and April 29 from Konkan Singers Club between 8.00 to 9.30 p.m. Live band will be in attendance. Meanwhile the Managing Committe in a circular has urged the members to update their subscription and has declared the plans of the club having its own premises very soon. GR Crasto/Bahrain Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goa-world.com Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com
[Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics.....
Guys, Gals: If you are pro-Congress, dont get too excited by people abandoning the BJP party and joining the Congress party. That is human nature. Get on the winning bandwagon. As soon as Congress is voted out of power I predict that there will be en-masse defections to the BJP accompanied by horror stories about corruption in the Congress heirachy. This is politics in Goa.
[Goanet]GOA SUICIDE WATCH:Couple mark wedding anniversary with suicide
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- --- Couple mark wedding anniversary with suicide --- In a shocking incident, a man and his nine-month pregnant wife committed suicide by allegedly electrocuting themselves at Sada on Friday evening on their first wedding anniversary. The couple had married a year ago. Relatives informed that, the deceased Shravan Shambhu Gawas (36) and wife Alka Gawas (25) committed suicide at their residence on Friday evening, while police informed that the couple got themselves electrocuted. It is learnt the couple opened the fan regulator and got themselves entangled to a live wire which passed electricity through themselves. Alka was reportedly nine months pregnant and was due to deliver a baby later this month. The incident came to light when the brother of the deceased Shravan came home and failed to get any response after knocking the door. After an anxious wait, he alerted Alka's parents who reside in the adjoining house. Later, they managed to break open the door, only to find the two bodies lying inside. It is believed that the couple were staying by themselves, while Shravan's parents lived in Pernem. Shravan was a taxi driver by profession. Meanwhile, residents, shocked with the incident, failed to explain any motive behind the drastic step taken by the couple. -- HERALD 16/04/05 page 1 - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans
On 23/04/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. Atan upkar kor (please do us a favor) can you write a post on Cafeteria Goans? :=)) Regards, GL RESPONSE: It is not my handiwork and I sincerely apologise for not having given the URL, Here it is:- http://www.concernedcatholics.org/cafeteria.htm
Re: [Goanet] Women priests - 4th Choice
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be right on this one. However, the Vatican has a different view of how women should be treated. So the choices I have are: 1) I toe the Vaticans line. 2) I search for another religion where women have equal status. 3) I become a cafeteria Catholic. :-) Mervyn, You know there is a fourth choice. Why keep up the pretense when you have lost faith? Be honest with yourself. Give up the whole charade. Liberate yourself. Live a reason and evidence-based life. Practice humanitarian ethics and rational morality. Imbibe spirituality from the products of human creativity such as music, art, poetry, literature, dance and science. But don't throw out the goodies. Celebrate all the religious festivals. Enjoy all the fun rituals. Expand your cafetaria to include other religions, because the only things that we know are real, for sure, are the food, the song and dance, the company and the fun. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]freedom figher dead at cuncolim
Khushali Dessai a freedom fighter died yeaterday inthe early hours of Friday morning at his residence in cuncoloim. He was 82 years and was ailing for some time. He was an active member of the Azad gomantak dal and worked along with his cuncolim freedom fighter colleagues like like former ex MLAs late Dattaram Dessai from Sanvorcotto and late Shabu Dessai from Binusa. He was honured for his services to the freedom struggle both by the state and the central government.
[Goanet]Bicholim city protests mining dust
Residents of Bicholim town in North Goa today evening organised road blokade at the Bicholim Bus stand. Some of them belonged to a group called MARG- Movement towards Amity to Roads in Goa. The demand was to stop dust dust pollution due to transportation of iron ore through trucks inside the city. 50 People from Bicholim grouped together at 4.pm at the bus stand and then started stopping the mining trucks that were not covered properly by the tarpoline. Very soon the crowd gathered and the open confrontations began between the Protestors and the truck owners. In the ensuing confrontation that followed the leaders of the Protestors Ramesh Gauns and Mahesh Kadkade were threatened with harm to their bodies publicly. The one to issue the threats was Mayor of Bicholim Municipality Satish Gaounker. My investigations revealed that ever since he has become the Municipal chief he has invested in 4 trucks. At the street confrontations these biases were exhibited full blown. Besides using filthy abusive language on the protestors, he challenged Goa Police to fine the trucks violating. The pidly amout of fines are taken as flowers by the truckers rather than giving clean air the the Bicholim Residents. Satish argued that covering the truck with tarpoline is uneconomical as the lifespan of the single tarpoline is only 10 days and the cost to buy the new one is Rs. 3000/-. It does not make bussiness sense at all. Then suddenly in the middle of commotion Mayor turned towards one of the protestors and asked, If you believe mining trucks are causing pollution then why have you financed 16 trucks yourself? My latter queries revealed that the man he was quetioning is an employee of transnational ICICI bank. And it is the bank that has been the financing mining trucks. Well, the Mayor has the point here, inspite of his arrogance ICICI bank should refrain from financing mining trucks. Mining truck crossing Bicholim comes from places in Goa as well as Maharastra. Among the major companies that are carring on the trade includes, multinational Sesa Goa that is owned by Japanese Mitsui, Dempo Mining Corporation, Chowgules, Bandekars and others. Dempos has the mining history of over half the century in Bicholim. The municipality had even symbolically handed over silver key to its proprietor late Vasantrao Dempo on his 65th birthday in 1975. The company since then increasingly invaded new lands within the municipal limits, outside the limits and on the boundaries. The routine water shortages, loss of land under agriculture, dust pollution, tuberculosis and other lung deseases are sought to be compansated for by liberal donations to temples, cajoling to buy trucks, participation in mining the form of running of bulldozers and of course the employment argument. Mohan Naik, a retired headmaster told me when I spoke to him after the road blokade, says Mining has ruined Bichoilim. And yes. Anyone with one visit to the city, on the first braeth inhaled will confirm what the retired headmaster has to say. I totally agree with him too. The voice of protest is finally on the streest of Bicholim; something to rejoice on Earth day. Sebastian Rodrigues NEST (Nature Environment Society and Transformations)
[Goanet]Eucharistic celebrations to inaugurate the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI on 24th April 2005
BENEDICT XVI TO VISIT ST. PAUL'S BASILICA ON APRIL 25 VATICAN CITY, APR 22, 2005 (VIS) - The Office for Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff announced in a communique published yesterday afternoon that the solemn Eucharistic celebration to inaugurate the pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI will take place in St. Peter's Square on Sunday, April 24 at 10 a.m. All cardinals in Rome will concelebrate. The Church in Rome and in various parts of the world, adds the communique, is invited to give filial thanks and make a fervent supplication to God to obtain for the new Roman Pontiff, who will be given the Petrine pallium and the Ring of the Fisherman, copious graces for his ministry for the good of the entire Church. On Monday, April 25, at 6:30 p.m., the Holy Father will go to the tomb of the Apostle Paul in the basilica of St. Paul's Outside-the-Walls on the Via Ostiense to express the inseparable bond of the Church of Rome with the Apostle of the People together with the Fisherman from Galilee. Holy See Press Office Director Joaquin Navarro-Valls, in a statement released to journalists yesterday afternoon announced that on Monday morning, April 25, the Holy Father Benedict XVI will receive in the Paul VI Hall the pilgrims who have come from Germany for the solemn inauguration of his pontificate. Journalists will be welcomed by the Pope on Saturday, April 23 at 11 a.m. in the Paul VI Hall. A change in program was also announced yesterday. Pope Benedict XVI will receive the heads of the diplomatic missions accredited to the Holy See and the heads of delegations present for the Mass to inaugurate his pontificate following that celebration on Sunday, April 24, and not on Monday, April 25, as previously announced. OCL:OP/CALENDAR POPE/NAVARRO-VALLS VIS 050422 (270) POPE TO CARDINALS: MAY YOUR SUPPORT FOR ME NEVER FAIL VATICAN CITY, APR 22, 2005 (VIS) - This morning, the Pope received the cardinals currently in Rome, telling them that to the intense emotions I experienced on the occasion of the death of my venerated predecessor John Paul II and then during the conclave, especially its outcome, can be added an intimate desire for silence and two complementary feelings: a deep and heartfelt gratitude and a sense of human impotence in the face of the exalted task that awaits me. In the first place, he affirmed, I feel the need to give thanks to God Who, despite my human frailty, elected me as Successor to the Apostle Peter and entrusted me with the task of supporting and guiding the Church, that in the world she may become a sacrament of unity for the entire human race. Benedict XVI emphasized how truly emotional the first meeting with the faithful two days ago in St Peter's Square had been. May my most heartfelt thanks reach everyone: bishops, priests, male and female religious, young and old alike, for their spiritual solidarity. The Pope thanked all members of the College of Cardinals, especially Cardinal Secretary of State Angelo Sodano and the camerlengo Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo, for the active collaboration they gave to running the Church during the period of vacant see. With special affection, I would like to greet those cardinals who, for reasons of age or ill health, did not participate in the conclave. The Pope extended his personal thanks to the cardinals for the trust you have placed in me by electing me as bishop of Rome and pastor of the Universal Church. It was an act of faith that constitutes an encouragement to undertake this new mission with greater serenity, because I am convinced that I can count on both the indispensable help of God and your generous collaboration. I pray that your support for me may never fail! The Holy Father recalled his predecessors, Blessed John XXIII, Servants of God Paul VI and John Paul I, and especially John Paul II, whose witness over the last days supported us more than ever, and whose ever-living presence we continue to feel. He went on: The light and the strength of the Risen Christ radiated in the Church by that kind of 'last Mass' that (John Paul II) celebrated in his agony, culminating in the 'Amen' of a life entirely offered, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, for the salvation of the world. For me, your spiritual closeness, your enlightened counsel and your effective cooperation will be a gift for which I will be ever grateful and a stimulus to carry out the mandate entrusted to me with total faithfulness and dedication. AC/.../COLLEGE CARDINALSVIS 050422 (460) - Forwarded by http://www.goa-world.com/
[Goanet]Pope Benedict XVI to visit India
Pope Benedict XVI to visit India NEW DELHI, April 23, 2005: Pope Benedict XVI has promised to visit India, Cardinal Varkey Vithayathil of Ernakulam said Friday. The new pontiff, who has special love for the Indian church, praised the country's culture and sent his blessings for the entire population, the Indian Catholic News Service (ICNS) quoted Vithayathil as saying. The new Pope has also promised that he would definitely visit India, Vithayathil said. He (Benedict XVI) is a great admirer of Indian spirituality. He is impressed by India's unity in diversity, said the cardinal, who was among the 115 cardinals who chose Joseph Ratzinger as the new pope. I give my blessings and prayers to every Indian. India is a great country. I am happy at the growth of the church and the wonderful work that the church is doing in the country, the Pope told Vithayathil. Vithayathil, also the Major Archbishop of the Syro Malabar Church, added that the Pope had sent special regards to everyone in the Syro Malabar church. The Indian church is divided into three rites - Syro Malabar, Malankara and Latin. Apart from Vithayathil, Cardinals Ivan Dias (Mumbai) and Telesphore Placidus Toppo of Ranchi were in the cardinal college to elect Ratzinger as the 265th pontiff of the 1.1 billion Roman Catholics. -IANS http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newsid=15095newstype=local UPCOMING EVENTS IN KUWAIT: MAY BALL 2005 Organized by Goan Welfare Society (GWS)-Kuwait Date: 12th May 2005, Venue: Safir Palace Hotel, Riggea Band: Stepping Stones Highlights: Crowning of the MAY QUEEN 2005. Enjoy the Goan hospitality at its best. Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ http://www.goa-world.com/
[Goanet]The Importance of the Catholic Church
When He founded HIS Church. Jesus addressed Peter and told him: you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build MY church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it (Matthew 16, 18). With these words, Jesus made it clear that the Church is HIS property. He only spoke of one Church, not of two or more. In fact Church is, according to Gods Will, the very Own Body of the Lord. He wanted the Church to be His Mystical Body, constituted as the universal Sacrament for the salvation of mankind (LG, 48); as it is stated in the Vatican Council II; the Church is the means God chose to save everybody. The Church is the extension of Jesus Incarnation among human beings, to create the great family of Gods Children inside Him. The Church is the trajectory of the Christ through centuries. Bossuet would rather say: The Church is Jesus Christ poured and communicated onto the whole earth. All that can be said in brief with the words of a great priest of the first century, Saint Ignatius of Antioch BM (deceased on 107 AD): Catholic Church lies at the place where Jesus Christ is. Sin has dispersed mankind since its origin, it broke the union and communion between human beings and God, interrupted the beautiful plan of love that earth paradise shows us. God the Father created human beings for Himself, so that we could be His family; our destiny was to live in intimate communion with Him and enjoy His Blissful life. Sin the saddest reality of all broke up this beautiful Plan of love and scattered Gods children, torn His family apart and wounded God Himself. The Father thus wanted to rebuild His creation through Jesus and the Church, bringing His children back to Communion with Him. In this sense, the Official Catechism of Catholic Church estates: The gathering together of the Church is, as it were, Gods reaction to the chaos provoked by sin (CCC 761). The Catholic Church is the only one founded by Jesus Christ two thousand years ago and She has never ceased to be. There is no other institution on earth so old and so new at the same time, capable of overcoming all the persecution She has been suffering since the times of the Roman Empire. At present we have a Pope, who is the 264th Pope departing from Saint Peter. Which Institution would be capable of that? Only a divine Institution, founded by the Lord Himself. _ Claim your space online! http://www.msn.co.in/spaces Share your world for free!
[Goanet]A LOOK AT THE OTHER POPES WHO TOOK THE NAME BENEDICT
Benedict, the name of the new pope, is one of the more frequent choices made by pontiffs. A look at the previous Benedicts: 575-579 - Benedict I: Italian. Died in a siege of Rome during the Lombard invasions. 684-685- Benedict II: Italian. A scholar who worked to aid the poor. The patron saint of Europe. 855-858- Benedict III: Italian. Interceded in the conflicts between the sons of French leader Lothair I. 900-903 - Benedict IV: Italian. Crowned Emperor Louis III (the Blind) as Holy Roman Emperor. 964-965 - Benedict V: Italian. Abducted by Holy Roman Emperor Otto and taken to Germany, where he died. 973-974 -Benedict VI: Italian. Imprisoned and strangled by a faction of an opposing papal party. 974-983 -Benedict VII: Italian. Supported monasteries and higher learning. 1012-1024 - Benedict VIII: Italian. Faced an opposing candidate for pope and was enthroned by Henry II of Germany, whom he crowned Holy Roman Emperor. During his papacy, the Muslim Saracens attacked Europe and settled in Sicily. 1047-unknown- Benedict IX: Pope at 20 because of family connections. Was designated pope three times, forced from the papal throne twice and abdicated once. Finally deposed by Damasus II. 1058-1059 - Benedict X: Italian. Election deemed irregular because of vote-rigging, and his papacy was ruled illegitimate. Was deposed and excommunicated a year later. 1303-1304 - Benedict XI: Italian. Reigned for eight months and likely died of poison. His successor moved the papacy to Avignon, France, where it stayed for 72 years. 1334-1342 - Benedict XII: French. Before his election, he pursued heretics. As pope, he attempted to curb luxuries in monasteries and engaged in theological discussions. 1724-1730 - Benedict XIII: Italian. A strict disciplinarian who instituted reforms but was weak in international relations. 1740-1758 - Benedict XIV: Italian. Investigated the Jesuits, condemned the French playwright Voltaire and clarified rules on baptism, including forbidding forcible baptism of Jews. 1914-1922 - Benedict XV: Italian. Called for peace during World War I and canonized Joan of Arc. Emphasized training native priests instead of European missionaries. _ Sick of 9-5 jobs? http://www.astroyogi.com/newmsn/astroshopping/login.asp?catid=135ask= Looking for a change? B. Daruwalla guides you!
[Goanet]WOMEN PRIESTS RECENT HISTORY
Women priests: recent history... In the Holy Sacrifice that I left with you, I did not ask for women to be upon the altar, nor try to be a high priestess. They carry this on in the churches of satan; therefore, it shall not be carried on in My Church. When I had the Last Supper with the Apostles, My Mother was not present. If I had it in My power from the Eternal Father to make a priestess, I would surely have chosen My Mother; but, no, there were no women present at the first Dedication. - Jesus, October 2, 1987 _ The MSN Gamezone! http://www.msn.co.in/gamezone Ready for the challenge?
Re: [Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
On 22/04/05, Cajetan Rego [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to express my opinion on a few points people have raised on this topic. Will Christians be disenfranchised? I think we are simply overreacting by saying that Christians will be disenfranchised by the BJP. This is Goa as against Gujarat where explicit official orders were issued to burn houses. Just because such a thing happened there, it does not mean that it will happen here. Disenfranchising Christians is just not practical in a high-literacy state where the Christian population is significant. A few incidents here and there caused by overzealous people cannot be generalized as an assault on any religion. Not bringing Parrikar back to power, just because of this hypothetical fear, we will be depriving ourselves of an efficient Government. RESPONSE: Respectfully I think your reasoning is clouded or blinkered. Parrikar has filled all this faithfuls in Government positions, Catholics were left out en masse. I also quote from today's ebytes:- o Real estate developer, a close Parrikar aide, joins Congress: Prominent real estate developer and builder Dinar Tarcar who was known to be a close associate of the former chief minister Manohar Parrikar joined the Congress party, along with a large number of his supporters and friends Wednesday. Tarcar is a partner of Landscape Developers. Tarcar said the last four-and-half years had been a bad experience in Goa, alleging that there was rampant corruption. Tarcar said the Congress party had a long, healthy and democratic tradition and does not involve in politics of vengeance, and had no dictators. (H) So it seems people are now coming forward with their gripes. Perhaps you are one of those quite happy to tolerate a dictator and someone who will eventually kick your butt. As I have written before the true extent of the corruption will only come to light when a full and complete audit is undertaken by the Governer, hopefully. Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet]Correcting Goa's politics
Mr. Rego, Below is what Herald says. I'd like to know your views now ~~~ o Real estate developer, a close Parrikar aide, joins Congress: Prominent real estate developer and builder Dinar Tarcar who was known to be a close associate of the former chief minister Manohar Parrikar joined the Congress party, along with a large number of his supporters and friends Wednesday. Tarcar is a partner of Landscape Developers. Tarcar said the last four-and-half years had been a bad experience in Goa, alleging that there was rampant corruption. Tarcar said the Congress party had a long, healthy and democratic tradition and does not involve in politics of vengeance, and had no dictators. (H) Cheers, Seb Dubai If we cannot appreciate the development Parrikar achieved for Goa, I think we don't deserve any development at all. I am not a BJP activist or party worker and had thought Goa would be ruined when Parrikar came to power 4 years ago. My attitude towards his rule has since changed after seeing his developmental efforts and efficiency. We need an educated and non-corrupt person as the CM. Rather than going with a general hate wave, I would request all readers to apply their mind and elect a progressive Government. Cajetan Rego Comprem, Tivim Goa
Re: [Goanet] LINK: Another Goanetter makes the news: Joaquim Goes
--- Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot Fred for posting the sites that featured the news of our paper which appeared in the journal Science today. The paper is titled Warming of the Eurasian Landmass Is Making the Arabian Sea More Productive, Joaquim I. Goes, Prasad G. Thoppil, Helga do R Gomes, and John T. Fasullo. Science 22 April 2005: 545-547. Helga, Congratulations on the SCIENCE paper! Keep it up! I wish you were here during the crotchety global warming debate on Goanet. We could certainly have used some input from a real environmental scientist, although a person who has published in Science rather than in the Op-Ed columns of Washington Times, might not have had much of an impact. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. The implication of this thread, and presumably the notion that Cafetaria Catholics are somehow bad or impure, is thoroughly laughable from an objective standpoint. It is self evident that the world would be better off with less fundamentalists and more cafeteria Catholics, more eclectic and ecumenical Christians, more sarvadharmi and niradharmi Hindus, more reformed and liberated Muslims, and more secular-minded individuals of all creeds. Fundamentalism and religious conservatism of any sort are not consistent with the goals of a progressive, enlightened and free society. Cheers, Santosh
