Re: [Goanet] Women of a lesser God - response to Gilbert
Dear Gilbert, Just wanted to clarify that I never said I was a cafeteria Catholic. Hope all goes well. How is the granddaughter? Elisabeth --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elisabeth, I am glad to know that you are a cafeteria Catholic ani full blown buffet agnostic. I am not diagnosing you, lest our friends accuse me of long distance medical practice. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Who Is Responsible Must Suffer
EXCERPT FROM ORDER BY NATIONAL COMISSION This case filed in District Forum, Chennai North, case No 838/2003 illustrates how government officials frustrate beneficial schemes to render citizens helpless.Mrs Shripa Sengupta,64 yrs old was accosted by a railway staff member at Chennai Railway Station who without bribe,refused to accept her age stated in medical papers(health card) which also informed she was visiting Chennai for surgery. She was kept on the platform, not permitted to see the Station master nor call up the Hospital.He inflicted a charge ogf Rs3,806/-, as ticketless traveller. Thereafter, even though she went to The Public Grievance Cell, submitting her passport as proof of age, her money was not refunded! So she went to the Consumer Courts.The Final Ruling(Transfer petition No4 of 2004)A PUBLIC FUNCTIONARY IF HE ACTS MALICIOUSLY OR OPRESSIVELY,AND THE EXERCISE OF POWER RESULTS IN HARASSMENT AND AGONY,THEN IT IS NOT AN EXERCISE OF POWER BUT ABUSE! NO LAW PROVIDES PROTECTION AGAINST IT. HE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT MUST SUFFER.Harassment of a common man by public authorities is socially abhorring and legally impermissible.Therefore the award of compensation for harassment by public authorities not only compensates the individual but helps in curing social evil.It may result in improving the work culture and help in changing the outlook. We direct the respondents to refund the amount of Rs3806/- charged as penalty and also pay a compensation of Rs 25,000/- . I may also state from practical experience,that The Public Grievance Cells are just another inefficient arm of the government. The ineffective Goa Cell is shifted from Patto Plaza to St Inez .I had to go there to discover this. E mail cc to The National Grievance Cell brings forth not even an acknowledgement ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa Su-Raj and migrant voting rights/response to Mervyn3.0
Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one query, though. When you exposed your BELIEFs as above, why did it make you laugh? :-). floriano, It made me laugh because Goa is allowed free elections. The person deemed the best candidate by the electorate in S. Goa is a know extortionist. If I am not mistaken, he was filmed receiving a bribe and he is still in power! Must be his rock solid beliefs that have convinced him not to resign. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa Suraj and migrant voting rights.
Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Whether we like to admit it or not, migration of people which is predominantly poor brings with it a criminal element. Do we have resources to deal with this or are we depending on those dogs again? :) Elisabeth, People who migrate do so because they are looking for work. I have yet to hear of any study recording poor migrants bringing along criminals with them. On the other hand, I have heard politicians repeating over and over that immigrants are bad. Just like Ambassador PDD, these politicians know that if they repeat their statements consistently, some people will begin to believe them. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Papad Paneer Fritters Recipe
Papad Paneer Fritters Recipe Chilli-garlic stuffed paneer squares, dipped in batter and coated with coarsely ground papad, deep fried till crisp. Serve these hot to thoroughly enjoy the contrasting paneer and papad flavours. A perfect snack for entertaining! Provide wooden or plastic picks to pick up the paneer fritters. Cooking Time and Serve Estimate for Papad Paneer Fritters Recipe Preparation Time : 5 mins. Cooking Time : 7 mins. Makes 6 pieces. Ingredients for making Papad Paneer Fritters Recipe 100 grams paneer, cut into 25 mm.(1) cubes 2 tablespoons fresh garlic chutney 2 papads, raw 1/4 cup plain flour (maida) salt to taste Other ingredients: oil for deep frying Method for preparing Papad Paneer Fritters Recipe 1. Slice the paneer cubes into 2 halves. Keep aside. 2. Apply a little garlic chutney on ½ of the paneer cubes. Sandwich with the remaining paneer. 3. Grind the papads in a blender to a powder. Keep aside. 4. Combine the flour with salt and ¼ cup of water to make a thin batter. 5. Coat the sandwiched paneer cubes with the flour batter and then roll them in powdered papad and keep aside. 6. Heat oil in a kadai and deep fry a few paneer pieces at a time, till golden brown in colour. 7. Drain on absorbent paper. 8. Serve hot. Join my group now Click to join Kevins_World [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new Click here Catch all the FIFA World Cup 2006 action on Yahoo! India Click here -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20060707/6442d8ba/attachment.htm ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa news for July 7, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Ravikanth and Kiran register another win (The Hindu) HYDERABAD: Defending champions V. Ravikanth Reddy and M. Kiran Reddy recorded their second consecutive win defeating Suresh Shirodkar and Ravi Shirodkar of Goa-II 21-12, 21-19 in the men's section of the ninth senior National beach volleyball ... http://www.thehindu.com/2006/07/07/stories/2006070708281700.htm *** Sombre mood in Goa as Portugal is beaten in World Cup (New Kerala) Panaji: Sombre mood ruled over the football fans in Goa, an erstwhile Portuguese colony, after Portugal lost to France in FIFA World Cup at Munich last night. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18717 *** Goa laments Portugal's loss in FIFA World Cup semi-finals (New Kerala) Panaji: Goan fans of the Portuguese national football team lamented its penalty kick loss to France in the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup. Dressed in Portuguese colours, jerseys and draped in Portugal's flag, the fans were left shocked by the defeat. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18879 *** Closure of vernacular schools: Goa forms committee (New Kerala) Panaji: Concerned over closure of vernacular medium primary schools, Goa government today formed a nine-member committee to study the causes and the situation that prompted the closure of such schools. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18824 *** Goa to allow small motorised canoe for fishing from July 15 (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa Government will lift ban on fishing on July 31. However, it has decided to allow fishing by small (36-feet long) motorised canoe from July 15. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18137 *** Goa to have smaller garbage treatment plants (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa government will go in for smaller garbage treatment plants in all 13 municipal councils to tackle the problem of solid waste management, Urban Development Minister Joaquim Alemao said today. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18305 *** Goa to introduce bond for medicos (New Kerala) Panaji: To overcome the scarcity of doctors in rural areas, the Goa government today made it mandatory for students passing out of state-run medical colleges to serve in such regions for five years, Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane said. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=17858 *** Power Grid Corp asked to estimate Goa's power need (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa government has entrusted the Power Grid Corporation with the task of estimating the state's power requirement for the next 12 years. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18779 *** Meet Portugalâ#130;¬#132;¢s lady fan in Goa (Yahoo! India News) The Portugal-France match has a special edge in India, especially in Goa as one would expect. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060705/211/65mwo.html *** A Little History: Churches of Old Goa (About.com) People go to Goa for mostly hedonistic reasons, right? To tan their breasts, let their hair down, attend a few wild parties. But Old Goa, or Velha Goa as it... http://goasia.about.com/b/a/257266.htm Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?
Hi Gadgil, When I mention a section who retained loyalties to the British, I didn't even remotely mean the Anglo-Indians. Being a community which was part-British and part-Indian, their own dual-loyalties could be well understood. It is nobody's case that Goans are part-Portuguese (except a very miniscule segment). Nobody doubts our, er, South Asian identity (to avoid a huge debate over whether it's Indian, or how long back India existed, whether it was a pre-1947 reality, etc...) But, as in the case of some Goans, those who had it good during the British Raj also retain their loyalties. This is not restricted to Catholics alone, though it is also a fact that many Hindus did not have it good during colonial times, what with its theocracy and open discrimination till 1910. And, for India as a whole, it's not just a case of one Niradh Chaudhuri alone; but maybe the rest of India is a much wider sea, so these complex-to-explain situations are less obvious. The bond which Goa has with English obviously isn't much of a colonial legacy. Hardly so. It has nothing to do with that, in fact. Apart from the Arpora Fr Lyon's School and Saligao's Mater Dei, the rest of the prominent English language schools (Britto's, St Mary's, Loyola's, Don Bosco's, etc) all came up in the mid-forties in Goa. The switchover from Portuguese to English was a post-1961 phenomenon, except among those who migrated earlier to what was 'British Africa' or other parts of the English-speaking world (including Bombay, Karachi, and the many cantonment towns or railway centres). Am not very sure that the opposition to colonial rule came from the poor and the underpriviledged. Actually, it seems to be the contrary. In India too, at least a section of the Dalits saw in the British a force which could counter 'upper' caste dominance in their lives. In some ways, it is understandable. I'm not saying the poor were less patriotic. They simply had too little at stake in a caste/class defined society, which had watertight compartmentalisation and little possibility of mobility. Besides, the more affluent sections -- not that they were more patriotic -- also had more to lose. Reinterpretations of the Pinto's Revolt (not involving too many Pintos, incidentally), and viewing it as a battle for a spot in the colonial sun, also suggest this. In Goa, the situation is more complex in other ways too. It somehow seems that the battle against the Portuguese, at least in the early phase of its revival in the 1930s and 1940s, was led predominantly by the Catholic Chardo, and specially the Chardo from Salcete. (A brief look at the names of freedom-fighters of this period tends to confirm this reality. Some prominent names, for instance, Menezes Braganza, TB Cunha, FL Gomes ... though of an earlier period, and hotbeds of anti-colonial protests in places like Cuncolim, etc) This is a tentative view, and I would stand to be corrected by someone who has looked at this angle deeper. One needs a better explanation of why this happened, or why the others took their time to get involved. Was the Brahmin Catholic more closely incorporated in the colonial scheme of things (as was the case with the Congress in the 1980s, while led to what could be interpreted as a Catholic Chardo revolt leading to the PDF experiment)? Did the subaltern castes have too little a stake anyway? Was it a question of where leadership first took root? Was it simply peer-pressure and accidents of history at work? Did heavier out-migration from Bardez explain the geographical imbalance? It would be an interesting exercise to map the rise of social ideas among various social groups, specially on the political field. Just my two paisa worth. FN On 06/07/06, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, there is plenty of Anglophilia in India, witness characters like Nirad C. Chaudhuri who made a religion out of it. But as you yourself point out, there is a clear class component to this. Why look at others, when we hold up a mirror to ourselves, there is probably a fascination with things British (or Portuguese, as the case may be). The bond we have with the English language is telling. To paraphrase the historian D.D. Kosambi (who incidentally happened to be a Goan), the Indian elites and middle-classes carry the mark of the coloniser upon their tongues, in the form of the English language. It has been persuasively argued by a number of historians (particularly those of the subaltern school) that the opposition to colonial rule was more among the poor, underprivileged sections of Indian society, rather than among the middle and upper classes, who probably played some comprador bourgeoisie kind of function and actually benefitted from colonial rule. In Goa as in the rest of India, I suppose -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org| +91(832)2409490 Cell
Re: [Goanet] The Booms of Idealism should not die goa suraj --more comments
- Original Message - From: Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa Suraj -- The Booms of Idealism should not die,Floriano Dear Vivek, With all due respect when did the blooms of idealism die in Goa and Goans? When did we become so disheartened as to believe that idealism is a dirty word? When did we stop being revolutionaries with fire in our bellies and dreams in our hearts? There's a great line in the movie Munich. There comes a time when every great civilisation must compromise with its own values. No doubt if Floriano is voted into power there will come a time when he'll have to wrestle with his own conscience and chose the lesser of two evils but until that time comes, here is a man who has a dream in his heart. He sees Goa not for what it has become but for what it has the potential to become. Nary a soldier went out to war believing he could lose, even if the odds were stacked against him. That is the hope that must sing loudly in the soul of every warrior. Floriano is one such warrior. Why must we beat him down with the our negativity. When the twilight years creep into his life, he for one can say proudly, Goa I loved you. I heard your call, I sang your name and I gave you my all. And if I can say the same, than I would have learnt something from this man, Floriano. Elisabeth PS: Dear Floriano, I am available for writing your acceptance speech :) [Floriano's response to Elizabeth] Whow! Elizabeth. I see you stiching a 'Ghaddhi' (Indian suit) for me already. Please save your efforts and your precious time, most of which you are already spending on goanet. That ghaddi is going to get frayed on its hanger. Instead, do me a favour and accept my invite to write beautiful words of wisdom for Goa and Goans in a special page I am offering you (for as long as you want) ON GSRP's website to put fire into the bellies of Goans to rise up and join-in, in this 6 year old REVOLUTION, not to spill blood through guillotines, but to do the same through the ballot, starting from April-May 2007. It would give me no less a pleasure to compliment your very effective and emotional writings. *** - Original Message - rom: Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:26 PM Subject: [Goanet] goa suraj --more comments Dear Floriano: I am not even a novice in politics but i think that politics is the art of consensus and compromises without sacrificing some basic values of decency and personal integrity. Contrary to your assertions that all national parties are Chors there are many politicians in india who are doing a great job I am no fan of the leftists but the current bengal CM is a definitely not a chor.Same can be said about the Home minister of Maharstra RR PAtil as well ex kerala CM Antony as well as our ex CM Parrikar. Others like Narendra Modi are excellent administrators and it is a fact that his regime is not corrupt.In fact much of the internal factionalism in Gujarat BJP stems from the fact that the corrupt activities of the son in law of Keshubhai patel the ersthile CM of Gujarat were curtailed during Modis rule. I think having a set of very lofty principles is one thing but one must also realise that no political party an operate in a ideal situation. Mega promises as well as idealist roadmaps may earn you kudos on a mailing list but sadly unless you accept the ground realities these principles will remain only on paper. Like Fred said no second term to mlas is a good slogan especially when u don't have any. The point being you must invent ways to work the system that we already have and then make incremental changes to improve it. -vivek [Floriano's response to Vivek] Accepted that a few like RR Patil, CM of W. Bengal, Anthony of Kerala, Parrikar, Modi are role models for some. But let me tell you, Vivek, and as you have yourself said, if a politician has to maneuver diplomatically and take the path of 'lesser evil' to do some good, it is because of compulsions that thse men have to adjust to because they themselves are responsible for, having been a part of the system. Here, we at GSRP have designed a new system and positively do not have to rely compromising existing systems. And, in this new system, there are no previous compulsions and tolerances which has to be apeased. We can afford to go straight for the jugular and not pussy-foot with round-abouts. Besides, the few you have named are perhaps some good apples in the basket of wholly rotten ones. And you know very well what the overall aroma of this basket will be. I have said this before. Morarjee Desai was the vocferous advocate of prohibition of liquor whereas his own son was operating a distillery. Modi, Parrikar may be the best administrators. But not only they are in the rotten basket, they
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 33
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 17:18 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] World Cup Kudos, George, you have hit the nail on the head. Ouch! To hell with all this, and let's enjoy the football! Dear FIFA I must protest your sudden change of theme at this year's World Cup. -- Question everything -- Karl Marx ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Please identify this plant/fruits
Please identify this plant/fruits I saw this plant after so many years. During my school time, as a child, I remember even eating its fruits (see the pic) as riped ones are sweeter. There was a big tree near my school. Its fruits are first green and when riped it is yellow. There was even another variety of this plant/fruits which were much bigger in size (as big as 'bomboichim boram' or 'amballe'). Clue: Steps to send a letter (e.g. letter from India). - write a letter - then close it - then ...? - then stamp it - finally, post it. Check it here http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/182343026/ http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/182343027/ As a child, what else you remember eating odd things ?? As for me... - Paddy Rice (Tandull) - Sand (mati). - Paddy Husk (Kunddo) - 'Kavllea dolle' (round tiny fruits which make your tongue turn blue like ink) - Dry Ice fruit sticks (found on gorund) as they were tasting sweet (Ice-crotta boddi) - Kuem Ruka Bhi (a seed/nut from a tall tree which usually found in front of the churches. Its tubular shape seed/nut about an inch long, had something to eat but eating more than 2 was making you to faint/giddiness. The empty shell was then used as a whistle). If I remember more,I will add later, in the mean time, can you make your confession ?? Remember, I was only a child that time below 7, I suppose. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] about Goan support for the Portugal Football team Nirad C Chaudhari
In connection with the topic of WHY in 2006, Goans in Goa would still be rejoicing about a Portugal win in a quarter-final match with England, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Yes, there is plenty of Anglophilia in India, witness CHARACTERS like Nirad C. Chaudhuri who made a religion out of it. Interesting that Mr. Gadgil should write thus about a man as accomplished as Nirad C. Chaudhari - who incidently was fired from All India Radio in 1951 after the publication of his book 'The Autobiography of an Unknown Indian'. Such is our 'democratic' intolerance to a dissenting voice. Bravo!! or Viva !!! (;-) And Yet at the same time at the helm was that Commie Krishna Menon who was accused of being involved in a corruption scam involving the purchase of used military jeeps from Britain to supply to the Indian army during the war with Pakistan in 1948.while he was the Indian High Commissioner to the UK. Nirad C. Chaudhuri got booted from AIR, Menon got promoted to become Minister of Defence. Brilliant stuff. There are many who criticise Chaudhari - some rightly so. He was probably just another much accomplished eccentric. Some of those who criticise Chaudhari for his praise of the British rule in India - have not given up the opportunity for THEMSELVES to swear allegience to the Queen of England and obtain British Nationality ... have they? Back to why Goans may have a soft corner for Portugal . 1: Are you guys really surprised? Isn't that why Nehru decided NO plebiscite? Please do continue to put your heads into the sand. 2. Please understand this. Decent Goans will always have good feelings towards both Portugal and India. It is natural for good people to have good feelings towards family. The only time it will change is when Goans become an absolute minority (i.e. less than 5%). AS a writer once wrote on TGF 'in the next 50 years ...it will all change'. 3. I invite you to think about Jamaica - a country which treats ALL people who contribute to her people, as their own. They accept their own background as part African Slave, part East Indian and Chinese indentured COOLIE labour and part English slave master. They do not pretend or revise their history to state that the Africans were born in Jamaica and then migrated to Africa ...like some Aryanologists would have you believe. Then take a look at Trinidad and Tobago ...where African descent folks and Indian descent folks have their regular zing-zing. Do ask the 'black' Trinidadians what they think of the way the Indians treat them ...especially the ones who have migrated there 20-30 years ago. 4. The COOLIE East Indians never forget to claim that they are pure Indians - They are horrified to learn that the original people of India were BLACK people and the rest of the Indians are one big Mix-Up of different races. If they do not believe, they should go to Venezuela or Mexico and see WHAT the mix-ups look like. 5. So don't be surprised IF Goans have good feelings for the Portuguese who were (and in many cases, still are) part of their family and friends circle. It is NOT Salazar's dictatorship or the Inquisition they are supporting just like when they have good feelings towards India, it is NOT Indira's energency, Advani's auto-destruction of Babri or Sati etc etc that they are supporting. Goans will support what they believe is good among people whoever they are. So much from me for now jc please visit NEW on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Check My New Reservations Policy
My Reservation Policy If I were a minister. SC10% (Schedule Caste ) ST 10% (Schedule Tribe ) OBC 10% (Other Backward Class) Some of the above are well off and even dress up to date. They will do anything to show that they are not from backward caste/tribe except when it comes to reservations and siphoning other Govt. schemes/allowances. 'Ar-e tum Chamar or Mahar??' Their response would be 'Tuz Pai To' FF 5% (Freedom Fighters) No accurate figure but fast increasing as if new FFs are born every day If as on 1960, the youngest FFs age say 18, he would now be 64yrs old but av. age of FFs during 60s would be 46 in which case (if still alive) they would be now 92 years old. Again, their children (if any) they will now be 34-62yrs old. So, give another few years to abolish this reservation in this FF category. BPL 10%(Below Poverty Line) About 6000 families live below poverty line in Goa. Stats: There were about 7148 families as per 2002 census of which 4028 from N Goa 3020 from South Goa PHP 5% (Physically Handicapped People) All handicapped peopled comes here including One handed, one legged, one eyed, over weight etc etc GLC 10% (Gay/Lesbian Community). This section of the society (or category) may appear to you new but existed even before Christ i.e over 2000 years ago. The peoples life style is still not yet recognized by Indian Govt. or Indian society including you and me. They live in fear. They live in total lies fearing rejection by the society, their own friends and family if they come out clean about their sexuality. Stats: 1 in 5 city males in San Francisco are Gay (in Goa it could be 1 in 9 ?). Other day, I was searching for Goan Massage related info on the web and I was surprised to see over a dozen Gay related groups (Yahoo, hotmail etc) were listed too which had the words Goa Gay in its groups names. People in this category are usually unmarried but not all unmarried people are gay or lesbians. Following people are unmarried but not Gay: Jesus (ignore DVC), Indian President Abdul Kalam Azad, former Indias Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, late Salazar de Purtugal, late Bollywood Actress Praveen Babi, Hollywood actress Sandra Bullocks etc 'Live your life your way and not the society's.' NGP 10% (Non-Goan Peole) Over 30% in Goa are non-Goans. Our politicians want to increase this to 15% (or same as general Category) We all know why.. as the vote bank increases the % (reservation) of this will increase too. NRI 10% (Non Residents Indian or Goans) Smile!! There is something for you too. 25% of the Goans already living abroad. Over 18,000 new Portuguese passport applications pending and more more added every day. Goa Passport office issues about 25,000 new passport every year (thats over 200 per month) Stats: Year 2004 23515 new passports issued in Goa Year 2005- 24,380 Up to June16, 2006- 12,300 GCP: 20% (General Category People) These are the people who dont come under the above mentioned categories I am sorry, this is what left for you after the various above deductions. This will soon be 15% on par with NGP. But dont worry, by then you will still be on top as 5% which will come off from FF and added to you. Moreover, any or all unused quota from NRI (and others) will also be added to your category. Have I left any section of the society out ? If so, please come back to me with your feedbacks before finalizing the draft policy. Note: No offence to any community. We are all children of God so all are my bothers and sisters. So let us treat every one fairly and equally. So, am I a good minister or what ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] On what's good for Goa and Goans/response to Floriano
You would end up polling for opinions which are, in turn, created by lobbies like newspapers (controlled by many groups, including vested interests... we know about the long reality of the mining lobby stranglehold over Goa's press, which thankfully is now declining, only to see the vacuum filled by other interests). But this doesn't mean that a political party can go about taking any semi-Fascist approach, and then justify it on the grounds that this is what my peoples want (as Churchill Alemao is every-ready to argue). How do parties like the Goa Suraj ensure that the stands they take aren't those of a tiny coterie, and against the interest of a significant segment? As it is political parties have a serious problem, given that they run like coteries, without a chance of a leadership-change from below. And, no, I'm not talking only about the big, bad wolves (aka the 'national' political parties) that Floriano is mentioning. Does anyone know of anything but tokenistic elections (if at all) amidst the MGP, UPG, UGDP, GLP, BBGP or any other caste-based, community-restricted regional political that you know of? FN On 05/07/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Floriano, Don't listen to all this nonsense about polling for opinions. Why should you poll and then form an opinion as to what your manifesto should be. You should have a stand on issues and if I like your stand than I will vote for you. Sometimes you have to take a stand and convince people that what you are saying is in their interest. That is how revolutions and revolutionary ideas come about. That is what leadership is all about. I like your stand on migrant workers, I like your stand on the Tenancy Act, I like your stand on the Da Vinci issue. You already have a vote in me. Don't be discouraged! Sometimes, you have to take the tiger but its tail, rather than asking the tiger how it would like to be captured. Leave the politics by polling to Mario and the Americans :) Elisabeth - No, Mario. I too know the importance of Opinion polls. I have been in and out of the US where these are dime a dozen. All that I am saying is that GSRP does not have the resources yet for such activities. Besides, we are just a nascent political force. What we say and what we believe in is not temporary. It will die with us, the GSRP. Not to sound pious or religious or something, but it just crossed my mind that what I was just going to say was also said by a 'SON OF MAN' who is acclaimed all over the world. Jesus, when accosted with reality had said MY TIME HAS NOT COME Likewise I say our (GSRP's) time has not yet come. Again, I say No to your query on polls . Properly designed statistical polling is NOT NONSENSE. We know it is effective. But we do not have the means YET. And we have all the patience in the world to wait. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org| +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- 2248 copylefted photos from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] TRAVEL-GULF: Emirates flight to Bangalore from October
Emirates flight to Bangalore from October Indo-Asian News Service Thiruvananthapuram, July 7 (IANS) Emirates Airlines will begin flying into Bangalore from Oct 29. Bangalore will be the eighth airport in the country that we would operate from and we would have eight flights every week, said Pradeep Suvarana, sales manager, Emirates Airlines. The airline currently has flights to Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Chennai, Kochi, Kolkata and Thiruvananthapuram. Emirates operates 15 flights a week to Kerala. We have a load factor of 90 percent and any increase in the frequency of flights into Kerala would depend on the demand and supply factor, said Suvarana. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goaaaaaaaaal! But not every hotel and outlet has scored
Goal! But not every hotel and outlet has scored By Pamela D'Mello The Asian Age Panaji: World cup mania has transalated into a mini business in football loving Goa, but not every watering hole that offered big-screen delights and crowd atmospherics felt they had scored. Across this state, where football has a big audience and as many clubs as villages, almost every eatery and bar worth its feni erected giant screens to lure in the crowds. Hot and cold beverage companies pitched in for sponsorhip and marketing, with local newspapers joining in too. Except, the audience weren't always biting. What with home entertainment systems and the like, most preferred to have a boys night in around a home television set, with a few friends, beer and snacks on the house. Cheap and comfy. We had mostly domestic tourists and foreigners who have settled here patronising our matches, says Rajeev Bhatt of the Calangute nightclub Farenheit, one of the three dozen football hangouts in Goa with spot prizes, face painting and the rest. Local football aficionados though headed for the easier-on-the-pocket Calangute Association large hall, which reported middle of the night traffic jams. Having dished out amounts from Rs 125,000 upwards to ESPN to commercially air the matches, big screen restaurants and clubs were recovering costs on beers, drinks and snacks. The more happening places would set you back Rs 400 a match. That's a bit much for an average guy, Rs 7000 for an entire World Cup. Most preferred cozy dos at home, says Francis Ribeiro, sports editor with a Goa newspaper. Smaller restaurants reported bigger volumes in football-crazy south Goa, particularly Salcete. With the stiff competition and limited clients, ESPN reps were called in to check on places that were raking in the mullah without paying requisite license fees. One disappointment has been that both of Goa's favourites -- Brazil and Portugal -- are out of the World Cup finals this weekend. (ENDS) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] EVENTS: Event at Literati, Calangute...
From: literati goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/06 Thu PM 03:22:30 GMT+05:30 To: literati group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [literati-goa] Activities for July and August While Literati has been open but rather quiet during the month of June there are a host of activities which I hope will interest you in the months of July and August. # On the 15th of July between 4 pm and 6 pm there will be an Origami workshop conducted by Master Shivaram who is a very talented young boy who can create complex models involving 200 folds from a single paper. Master Shivaram has been conferred the National Child Award for Exceptional Achievement in the Field of Origami in June 2001, by the Min. of HRD, Govt. of India. He has published his original models as a book titled- “Fold in Fold Out- Origami Originals” and his original model Aris-Turtle was selected as a winner of the Origami by Children 2004 conducted by Origami USA. The workshop is open to all age groups and Rs. 100/- is the fee per person or child for the workshop. Advance information of participation will be highly appreciated. # On the 22nd of July, there will be a poetry reading by Brian Mendonca at 5 pm. Brian will read from his much-acclaimed debut volume of poems on Goa entitled 'Last Bus to Vasco: Poems from Goa. 'Last Bus to Vasco' was launched at Vasco in April this year. Brian will be coming down specially to Goa over the weekend to make the July 22nd reading possible. Poems like 'Mapusa Memories' 'Souza Lobo' 'Sonya' and 'Fr Joseph Rowland Salema' all owe their inspiration to Bardez and places like Mapusa, Calangute, Sinquerim and Siolim. Copies of the book priced at Rs 150 with audio CD of the poems in the poets own voice will be available for sale. # On the 6th of August, there will be a reading at 11 a.m. by Zai Whitaker, who is an author of several children’s books including The Boastful Centipede and Other Creatures in Verse, Cobra in my Kitchen, Salim Ali for Schools, Andamans Boy and Kali and the Rat Snake. Zai is a teacher and writer. She has worked at the Chennai Snake Park and Crocodile Bank, and at Abacus Montessori School, Chennai. She lived and taught in beautiful Kodaikanal for thirteen years. She is also part of a team that helps women of the Irula tribe of hunter-gatherers and snake catchers. # And on the 17th of August, the Book Club will meet at 8 p.m. for a potluck and to discuss Shantaram, which hopefully most of us would have read by then. Hope to see you then or even better before then. Diviya More information: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/literati-goa ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Moral code
On 06/07/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you believe that the Catholic Church I attend has a life sized tapestry of Mahatma Gandhi alongside tapestries of several Christian saints, and a mural of Martin Luther King Jr. alongside one of Mother Theresa? No separate captions, just two of the gang, right inside the church. Mahatma Gandhi tends to be over-rated in the West. Though this is off-topic, do you believe it's because of the media blitz that he's benefitted from globally in the second half of the 20th century? FN PS: Not many realise that while Gandhi had strong views *against* the untouchability involving the lowest-of-the-low in the Indian caste hierarchy (or outside of it), he didn't have any problem with the caste system itself. -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org| +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- 2248 copylefted photos from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Elisabeth carvalho and voting rights
--- Vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amusing and sometimes mildly irritating that people who themselves have availed the hospitality of a alien country as immigrants would now grudge the same opportunities to their fellow citizens, let alone foreigners. I call that hypocrisy. Every Indian be it a bihari or a malyali or a bengali has right to settle anywhere in india except kashmir I believe, and a right to take part in the due electoral process of the land which includes the right to vote. IF people are so concerned about the dilution of the goan values as well as drop in the number of goan voters they should leave their adopted homelands and queue for voting cards alng with the biharis and other assorted ghantis Mario replies: Vivek, Please calm down and let's not make this personal. To be fair, Elisabeth is not a committed American immigrant as I am, but a temporary one, and does care deeply about Goa in my never humble opinion. She will soon be coming home to run against Rane under the Goa Suraj banner, but probably not under her own [inside joke]:-)) America's loss will be Goa's gain. School administrators will tremble and undisputed feticide will become fair and square in all the land:-)) But seriously, besides the hand-wringing and hair-pulling, I have no idea how one artificially restricts economic immigrants within a country's borders. Goans have been migrating to all corners of India and the globe even during the halcyon Portuguese days when milk and honey, but not tap water, were flowing freely along with the fenny and sorpotel. What do the Biharis and Malyalis see in Goa that so many Goans do not? In such situations the aboriginals have to suck it up, realize that there is a real need for reasonably priced labor, and compete. King Canute tried the other method, and it didn't work for him either. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa Suraj and migrant voting rights.
On 05/07/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fred, I'm glad you've responded because now at last I will find some informed answers (from an intelligent person) to questions that plague me. First of all, let me say that I understand your viewpoint and I am open to it. Let me put forward my issues (for want of a neutral word) with the matter of unchecked migration into Goa. Thank you for massaging my ego! The first rule of Goanet should be: say something nice to someone with the opposite views as you. He won't then be able to be harsh anymore ;-) Let me try and answer with some pop-sociology, or roadside knowledge. On a more serious note, I think Mervyn hit the nail on the head by saying Immigrants will always enrich a population. History tells us the Dutch realised this early on. So while, centuries back, the southern Europeans (and others too) persecuted the Jews, the Netherlands welcomed them. Guess who gained? There are mentions of how this helped Holland to boost its global position, and probably gain in other fields like science and learning too. Political scientists define a consociational state as a state which has major internal divisions along ethnic, religious, or linguistic lines, yet nonetheless manages to remain stable, due to consultation among the elites of each of its major social groups. My question is: can India, the Netherlands, Lebanon, Switzerland, Belgium... and Goa too, think of being anything but this? See the debate here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consociational_state Migrants and the outsider problem, as I've argued earlier, is one of the biggest red-herring that the simple-minded Goa has thrust upon him over the past two decades and more. We were in college when the 1983 Vasco riots broke out. The targets, as usual, were the poor. If we're talking about Goa's resources and loss of access to them, then probably one needs to target the resource-guzzling rich migrant, and the dollar/euro-buouyed foreign tourist. But will anyone take on them? Definitely not! So, isn't this another class battle, against the poor, being fought the pretence of taking on 'outsiders'? Secondly, when we talk of 'outsiders', isn't that a racial argument where we assume someone is diluting our gene-pool? But even such an assumption is far from true. Goa is itself a melting pot. It has been, for 2000 years and more. Look at your caste system in place. Even a glance to anyone but the completely naive would suggest that these are diverse populations, living with each other. Or tolerating each other. We are causing panic reactions by talking about dilution of the Goan population. Somebody on Goanet is building doomsday scenario of the ethnic Goan population going down to 5%. Anyway, please keep in mind that the definition of Goan is nothing but a reality shaped by accidents of Portuguese conquest (and annexation of territory under treaty). In such a case, do we have anything to fear, other than the extremely likely reality that we might not adjust at the required pace... and simply become extinct? Like the dodo? Or that, the walls we build against the 'outsider' might block them from becoming a part of Goan society speedily enough, to ensure that we all share a common interest, and don't end up getting used against each other. [Incidentally, when I was doing some interviews in the red-light area of Baina, when it existed, I was shocked to find a Kannadiga male, who worked on board a trawler, speak fluent Konkani... and that too with a Salcete Catholic accent! Sometimes, these experiences change your worldview! No, don't call it the Stockholm syndrome. I do think that when the reality doesn't match the stereotype, one often throws away all the biases one had.] Incidentally, some realities: * Goa's GDP has been high, in significant part, because of the age-old 'money order economy', based on out-migration. Out-migration in turn fuelled the demand for in-migration. That's why Bardez has been such a magnet for people from Pernem, long before the 'outsiders' came in. Every dollar of remittances would pull in more 'outsiders'. But would a migrant stop sending in money, which s/he went abroad to be able to do in the first place? You could call this the dollar-remittance trap! * 'Outsiders' could, and are, contributing to the productive forces in Goa. Churchill Alemao, who riles against them, recognises this reality when he employes them in large numbers in his trawlers. Or, more visibly, in his football team ;-) * The 'cultural shift' needs to be addressed by ensuring that so-called 'outsiders' become part of the Goan melting pot fast enough. It isn't tough. I've seen a Sikh, an Oriya, and innumerable others speak Konkani in next to no time. The danger is that they would get blocked by the walls we are building around them. Or, around ourselves! * We do have problem areas on hand, in that politicians use the 'outsider' vote to undercut the local population's interest
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * July 7, 2006 * Sand extraction haunts Pernem... Babush leads campaign for Roman script in Cabinet
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / d8 Founded in e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ 1994 by 888 888 d888 i 88b 888 888 d888 88b 888 Herman 88_88 | e88~-888 888 888 __888 888 Carneiro / Y888 ' C888 888 888 888 Y888, 888 Cb 88_-~ 88_-888 888 888 88___/ 88_/ Y http://www.goanet.org * Building social capital. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] * Sand extraction haunts Pernem. Rampant sand extraction in Kiranpani, Keri and Torsem has resulted in soil erosion, traffic congestion and influx of a large migrant population. Sand extraction first began at Devsu-Korgao, and spread to neighbouring villages -- including Palyem, Naibag and Konadi in Goa's northernmost taluka. (H) * Babush (Monserrate) leads cause for justice for Roman script in the Congress Legislative Party. After discussions were initiated by TCP minister Babush Monserrate, it was decided that the issue should first be deliberated at the Congress party level. (H) * Meat prices at an all time high. If fish and vegetables have turned dearer and beyond the reach of the commonman this monsoon, meat eaters have nothing to cheer about, with the prices of almost all variety of meat having hit a new high in recent times. Soft mutton is Rs 170 per kg, medium variety at Rs 140, boneless pork Rs 100, ordinary pork Rs 90, bhendi beef Rs 80, ordinary beef Rs 70-75, and chicken at Rs 58-60.H * Terror suspect Tariq Ahmed Battlo was arrested on March 10: cops. His case has come up for trial, and Battlo has submitted that he was actually arrested by the police on March 3. A Fast Track Court is trying the case. Battlo also sought to substantiate his view with a March 8 statement by chief minister Pratapsing Rane that the police had detained a Kashmiri terrorist.(H) * EDUCATION BEAT * * Government panel to prevent closure of vernacular schools. (H) * Scholar Prof Lurdino Rodrigues remembered on 90th birth anniv. (H) * Kala Academy organises rural literary meet at Mandrem school. (H) * GU coordinator of NSS Prof Bhushan Bhave inaugurates Damodar unit.(H) * Shiroda college offers admission for homeopathic degree. (H) * Fr Victor Ferrao of Goa gains doctorate at Jnana Deepa Vidyapeeth, Pontifical Institute, on 'An involving Goa in an evolving universe: An emerging paradigm in science-religion Dialogue.(H) * Parrikar slams education department for shortage of textbooks. (NT) * NCERT syllabus will help students compete outside: Luizinho. (NT) * NCERT books published by Goa board cheaper. (NT) * Sanjay Centre to open higher secondary for hearing impaired. (NT) * Sol Fa Music School, Mapusa to conduct music classes in Solfeggio, violin and organ at Mapusa Clinic Building and St Inez Church Hall.(NT) * Karnataka institutions offer admission for BSc nursing (4 year). NT * Russian undertrial in drug case escapes from police. (NT) * Margao waste treatment plan to be ready in 6 months: Joaquim Alemao. * Dr Salkar of NOTE to attend World Cancer Congress, Washington.(H) * Tanker rams into house at Raia. (NT) * Varca murder: accused Tommy Cruz gets conditional bail. (NT) * Matanhy condemns kidnapping of Curchorem councillor. (NT) * Parked car stolen at Colva. (NT) * Baaga-Xelvona villagers plan hunger strike over attack on them.H * Goan, Moses Dias (38), dies of heat stroke in Qatar. (H) * CM to inspect proposed waste treatment site at Bainguinim. (H) * Government yet to appoint an agriculture director. (H) * Ribandar residents oppose garbage plant at Bainguinim. (NT) * Changes in Panjim traffic plan implemented. (NT) * Discharge of sewarage water in Baina again. (NT) Former State Bank chief P G Kakodkar to be released soon. It's to be called 'My 40 Years With SBI' and covers the liberation of Goa and his role in the setting up of the SBI office in Mapusa, the challenges that the SBI had to face during the Emergency, the impact of the Harshad Mehta scam on the SBI and the bank's computerisation which he pioneered. Mr Kakodkar is originally from the Goan village of Kakoda. (NT) Male and female nurses required by Apollo Victor Hospital in Margao to join its medical tourism programme. Must be proficient in written and spoken English. Other languages like German, Russian would be an added bonus but are not essential. Other duties include hospitality services to the visiting guest/ patient. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Catholic Workers' Group to offer Mass for workers, July 7, Pnj.(H) * Ponda to have demo road made from plastic waste. (H) * Male Labrador dog missing from Arpora. Award Rs 5000. Nilaya. * Go BSNL boardband. D-Link 502T routers @ Rs 1550. * Missing Newton F Diniz: You got a service call from the District Session Court, Margao, and should be there before
[Goanet] ROMI KONKNNI - URGENT NEED.
To Romi Konknni campaigners In Goa, This is Kuwait Konkkni Kendr. Kindly send us immediately email addresses of the President of India, Prime Minister of India, Sonia Gandhi, Margareth Alva and of all the persons and organisations in Delhi that can influence or can do something to support the cause of Romi script Konknni to bring it on par with Devanagri script. Also, kindly forward us emails of all the Goan MLA's and MP's. A. Veronica Fernandes, KUWAIT KONKNNI KENDR. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?
On 07/07/06, Frederick FN Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gadgil, When I mention a section who retained loyalties to the British, I didn't even remotely mean the Anglo-Indians. Being a community which was part-British and part-Indian, their own dual-loyalties could be well understood. It is nobody's case that Goans are part-Portuguese (except a very miniscule segment). Nobody doubts our, er, South Asian identity (to avoid a huge debate over whether it's Indian, or how long back India existed, whether it was a pre-1947 reality, etc...) RESPONSE: Fred, believe it or not, in East Africa, Goans set themselves apart, ( From Indians) most if not all alluded to being Portuguese! Indeed many had Portuguese Passports, including my mother! When I posted a slight anti bias against the Portuguese football team recently on Goanet, I received a lot of direct abuse in my inbox So you can make what you want of it, perhaps 'blood is thicker' than water? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code
Humanists cannot reverse all the ills wrought upon this planet by the so-called religious in one generation. It was secular thinking that gave you the life and freedoms you enjoy today and will eventually bring peace to a shrinking world. If left up to religious leaders, we would still have a flat earth as the centre of the universe that is 6,000 years old and shackles of slavery supporting a white-dominated society. Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Original Message: - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 06:46:34 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most atheist groups (skeptics, freethinkers, etc.) are content to debate the meaning of life but the Secular Humanists are really the only organization that feels that our duty in this life is to care about others outside our immediate influence and share our resources with the less fortunate. It is that empathy that drives our 'moral compass' towards the 'True North' and not some imaginary pole that has been devised by theologians and inscribed on stone tablets. Mario asks: Kevin, As one of those who has a recent and home-made moral code of convenience, which you try to cover up under a veneer of delusional intellectual bullshit, can you please explain to me what the secular humanists have done and are doing to address the problems in Rwanda, Burundi, west-Africa, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the middle east, and how they have shared their resources to help those less fortunate populations? What have you secular humanists done to address the millions of unborn that are being flushed down the drain every day, week, month and year? What are the secular humanists doing to address the looming menaces of Iran and N. Korea? Thanks. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] IFFI preparations get off to an early start
By Pamela D'Mello / The Asian Age Panaji, Jun 29: International Film Festival of India preparations have kicked off to an early start this year, with organisers shortlisting three event management agencies to handle the ten day extravaganza. Wizcraft, Brilliant and Times 360 degrees, were picked for their creative concepts, among five bids called in. By mid-July we will decide on the final agency based on their financial bids, said ESG CEO Nandini Pariwal. ESG hopes to eventually convert IFFI into a revenue earner for the state. An early start this year is expected to net additional sponsorships for the premier festival that runs November 23-December 4. Sponsorships increased from Rs 3.5 million in 2004, to Rs 17 million in 2005, though disputes broke out between ESG and event managers Wizcraft. The hype surrounding the festival's shift to this fashionable west coast resort destination has paid off, organisers suggest. Interest from embassies abroad has increased. The French embassy is increasing its presence at the festival this year, from an initial splash it made in 2005. Similar interest is coming in from Italy, Brazil and Portugal according to sources in the know. Following an official study tour to the 2006 Cannes film festival, industry organisers have decided to focus on promoting co-productions, besides marketing India as a shooting and editing location. We'll be specially promoting Goa as a production base Ms Pariwal told this newspaper, adding that the state intended to synergise its tourism assets and infrastructure with the festival and its forward linkages.(ends) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goencho Ulo uploaded
Dear Goannetters, The July issue of Goencho Ulo has been uploaded on www.fullerlife.in Long live Konkani. Leo D'Mello. Life a Fuller Life www.fullerlife.in ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa Su-Raj andmigrantvoting rights- Mervyn3.0
Must be his rock solid beliefs that have convinced him not to resign..Mervyn3.0 Resign? When one spends crores to get elected? Resignations come from principles. Our democracy is a money making machine. There is no place for principles in it. You invest Rs. 1, you collect Rs. 1 multiplied by as many crows. No wonder we have not many crows left in Goa. floriano - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa Su-Raj and migrant voting rights/response to Mervyn3.0 Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one query, though. When you exposed your BELIEFs as above, why did it make you laugh? :-). floriano, It made me laugh because Goa is allowed free elections. The person deemed the best candidate by the electorate in S. Goa is a know extortionist. If I am not mistaken, he was filmed receiving a bribe and he is still in power! Must be his rock solid beliefs that have convinced him not to resign. Mervyn3.0 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?
That's not unexpected. I think Portuguese cultural colonialism was very strong, together with the switch in religion they effected. Add these two facts to the reality that the Portuguese managed to keep the general population very apolitical (and we can't just blame Salazar for that) inspite of having tools like the printing press in Goa right from 1556! On top of that was the reality that Goans did fairly well for themselves (in a middle-class sense, not like, say, the Parsis who were into trade and enterprise big time, and some even connected to the opium exports to China). So, understandably, there was little of a fire-in-the-belly. Or any need to feel dissatisfied with the system. Even if to survive, a large section of the population had to scour the world. Literally. Freedom fighters in Mumbai admit that they had a tough time rousing the Goan population out of their smug existence. But, to be fair, the few who revolted did so in a rather drastic manner. Whether it's a T B Cunha or a F N Souza and many, many more. Is it any coincidence that those who fought the Portuguese also did so against their religion? By contrast, the British (and, to a lesser extent, the French) probably just knew when it was best to call it a day! FN On 07/07/06, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/07/06, Frederick FN Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gadgil, When I mention a section who retained loyalties to the British, I didn't even remotely mean the Anglo-Indians. Being a community which was part-British and part-Indian, their own dual-loyalties could be well understood. It is nobody's case that Goans are part-Portuguese (except a very miniscule segment). Nobody doubts our, er, South Asian identity (to avoid a huge debate over whether it's Indian, or how long back India existed, whether it was a pre-1947 reality, etc...) -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org| +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 -- 2248 copylefted photos from Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa Suraj
Dear Floriano: If I understand your mission clearly i think you are striving to create a Goan party as a safeguard of Goan interests completely controlled by goans. Imagine such a thing does happen and further more imagine such genuinely committed regional outfits come up in every indian state. Who is going to form the Government? my point is we need a indian national party to lead us. Not regional outfits. Are we looking forward to the balkanization of India? -vivek __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa SuRaj ani Balkanisation?
Vivek wrote thus to Floriano: Dear Floriano: 1: If I understand your mission clearly i think you are striving to create a Goan party as a safeguard of Goan interests completely controlled by goans. 2: Imagine such a thing does happen and further more imagine such genuinely committed regional outfits come up in every indian state. 3: Who is going to form the Government? my point is we need a indian national party to lead us. Not regional outfits. 4: Are we looking forward to the balkanization of India? -vivek = jc's response: Dear all, I suppose that it eventually depends on 1. What the word 'balkanization' really means. 2. Whether people (in a democracy) should decide who should represent their own interests, or whether it should be decided for them What their choices are a la Sad Man's or Salazar's elections i.e. Goans cannot choose GoaSuRaj even though it is a party that promotes non-communal and non-corrupt government. Goans must choose between the Secular Rock and the Communal Hard Place. 3. Whether one thinks of the DMK, AIDMK etc as non-regional parties. On the other hand looking at West Bengal, the best option would be the Communist Party. Would you not say that.or a Parvez type of Democracy. Why only at State Govt level forget the Federal Structure ...ONLY National Parties whether secular or communal should be the only ones involved at the Panchayat level. Unless Vivek is trying to say that GoaSuraj is only good for Ponchayatt...but not for State Governance. jc ps: just in case Vivek is unaware NOBODY is trying to CREATE GoaSuraj. It already is a party. And please review WHO is Goan acc to GoaSuraj and also http://www.colaco.net/1/truegoans.htm Please see HOW it differs from WHO is a Kashmiri according to the Kashmiri folks and WHO is Maharashtrian according to the Shiv Sena. please visit NEW on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code
Hi Santosh, Thanks for responding to my post and advancing the dialogue by being specific in your responses. Hopefully this dialogue will educate the rest of us, who may be misinformed if not ignorant of atheism or religion. Hope this exchange will educate me and others who may follow this thread. My (GL) reply follows your (SH) responses. Kind Regards, GL Santosh Helekar (SH): Here are some comments, answers and questions in response to a recent Goanet post. GL: I cannot understand why atheists cannot proclaim their virtues without condemning / denigrating religion. And the reverse is also true! SH: Actually it is very simple to understand. The answer to the above question is that there are no virtues to being an atheist, just as there are no virtues to being a theist. There is no virtue in proclaiming that you are virtuous because of your specific beliefs. No virtue in chauvinism and self-righteousness. GL replies: Humbly, I disagree with you. There is always virtue in the positives of what we all believe, do and achieve. You surely find virtue in being a neurologist and a researcher. That does not make you smarter or superior than one in another field of medicine. But it does give you pride and an incentive to strive to do an even better job, which is what Belief is all about. --- GL: The question I have is: How does one distinguish between a true atheist who does not believe in the God but does believe and act for the humanity of mankind; compared to the bebdo who uses the excuse of no God so that they can continue his/her nefarious ways. SH: This is a very comical comparison. I think it demonstrates a lack of sensitivity and good judgment. But the answer is very simple. A bebdo is a drunk. If he proclaims that there is no god when he has had too much to drink then ask him if there is one when he is sober. GL: This comical comparison brings home a point. The chronic bebdo when he is sober is likely to say, There is no God. That's because God (religion) demands self-control and a moral value system. So the bebdo, and others like him, who do not want to live the strict norms of their religion, may believe in no God / atheist as a convenient rationale. There is no compelling reason to lead a moral life if one does not believe in a moral supreme being with no consequences during or after this life. Call it fear that makes believers be good. Yet, if that's what it takes, so be it. What is the moral force to influence or make a non-believer live within the moral norms of their society? You may claim that no force is necessary for a majority of individuals. I say, with due respect, You live in a la..la land.:=)) Even with / in spite of the moral force / religion, there are bebdos, ani tea bair more bamtulos.:=)) How come our prisons are filled to over capacity? Alcoholism is not the only intoxicating agent that may lead one to be a non-believer. So are drugs, power, wealth, knowledge, greed. And then there are individuals who suffer from Delusional Grandeur - pathological or pseudo intellectual.:=)) -- GL: In fact even sensible atheists of today may have a cop-out attitude that their contribution do not count. SH: Who is a sensible atheist? How does one distinguish him/her from an insensible one? Are there sensible and insensible theists as well? GL: A sensible atheist like a sensible believer is one who for a minimum lives the moral norms of society they belong to. And perhaps tries to be even better. -- GL: Perhaps we need an atheist Mother Theresa. SH: Why? Why should anybody care if someone believes in god(s) or not? GL: The issue is not belief in God, but doing good to society and fellow humans under whatever rationale one may desire. --- GL: She (Annie Bessant) had no religion, but she had a philosophy and a large following in India. SH: What is good about having a philosophy and a large following? GL: Once again if there is no philosophy to life, there is no guidance to rationalize one's thoughts consistently. One ends with the situation, as an example, I believe in abortion but not in female feticide. Cheers, Santosh. Cheers, Gilbert. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa Suraj and migrant voting rights.
From: Elisabeth Carvalho I think we've both elucidated our points and we won't bore the Goanet reader anymore. === Folks, I am more than a little surprised at some of the views expressed by Elizabeth and Floriano. My questions: What form of ethnic cleansing would they favour - a la Hitler, Yugoslav, Rwanda, Darfur or some other? Since they believe in Goa for the Goans, do they also believe in Maharashtra for the Maharashtrians, India for the Indians, Arabian Gulf for the Arabs, England for the English etc? Eddie Fernandes ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing
I would like to add to what Fred writes apropos the above subject. Religion during the Portuguese rule played a big role in the social and political lives of the people.I say political because many a time the religious head was also a part of the ruling dispensation besides the usual State -religion established nexus.Religion was used to exercise total control over the people. The fear of God was so ingrained in the psyche of the people that very few dared to raise even a whimper of protest.Add to that the fear of the 'cabo' and the cane especially for the Hindus.Fear had made everybody meek and humble. That was the political climate of the time. Hence it was left only to the priests - the main conspirators in the Pinto Conjuracao were three priests - to raise the banner of revolt though it was more for personal reasons of hurt egos and hurt prospects rather than patriotic fervour per se. Even the others like T.B.Cunha who today are termed as fiery revolutionaries were products of the seminaries or had come under 'outside influences'.These were the renegades. Of course there was a segment of society that could have driven away the Portuguese but they are never known to bite the hand that fed them. On the contrary they connived with the whites as is their wont to land them the plum places and plump for the best lands.They made hay while the sun shone. For them the going was really good and they are enjoying the fruits of their duplicity till this day. Really speaking there wasn't any voice of freedom in Goa which was bereft of a selfish motive and was based on any sort of idealogy. An idealogical movement would have considered the option of Goa as a separate entity. Perhaps a couple of reasons have endeared the Portuguese to the Goans: the crime-free atmosphere and the justice system. And of course life in Goa was 'sossegado' thanks to the Portuguese. Richard Cabral Candolim ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Moral code and Mahatma Gandhi
--- Frederick \FN\ Noronha wrote: Mahatma Gandhi tends to be over-rated in the West. Though this is off-topic, do you believe it's because of the media blitz that he's benefitted from globally in the second half of the 20th century? FN PS: Not many realise that while Gandhi had strong views *against* the untouchability involving the lowest-of-the-low in the Indian caste hierarchy (or outside of it), he didn't have any problem with the caste system itself. Mario responds: Fred, You start by creating a questionable premise out of thin air that MG is over-rated in the West, then blythely continue on based on that premise. I do not accept your basic premise. MG has many admirers and a few detractors in the west on the same basis that he has many admirers and a few detractors everywhere else, including India. On balance, he fares quite well in the rear-view mirror of history, in my never humble opinion. I also don't recognize your other premise that he didn't have any problem with the caste system itself. How did you come up with this notion in the context of MG's oft-repeated belief that all men were created equal, which was an unpopular belief at the time? My scorecard gives MG immense credit for his staunch opposition to untouchability, which is the worst manifestation of the caste system. Then add to that his manifest belief that all men are created equal which got him killed by a Hindu fanatic, his personal kindness towards all and fearlessness in facing up to and eventually shaming the world's only superpower at the time to leave it's most valuable economic asset and go home. Previous breaks from colonialism were all based on armed resistance and open warfare. How can anyone over-rate such an exemplary life? ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] GoanetReader [InVerse] Storm in a World Cup ... Cynthia Gomes James
Storm in a World Cup The year is 2010, the place is South Africa World Cup fever running high The excitement in India reaches delirium pitch As our team qualifies in a shocking win A chance to bring the trophy home Newspaper headlines shout it out Television anchors already hoarse Biographies of players on the Internet World Cup mementoes sell off the shelves The nation dreams the same dream each night Life comes to a standstill Every time India plays a match Followed by frenzy when they win Be still, one billion hearts This dream is not a dream In Goa, there is no cure For the madness swirling around Four Goans on the Indian team Four heroes to welcome home Four villages swooning with joy In Goa, it’s twice as wild Portugal is in the fray too Double the pleasure of anticipation Double the reason to celebrate Another viva and some port for old times' sake The quarterfinals stoke the fire The Indian press cannot keep up With the need for superlatives As our team makes it to the last four Along with Germany, Italy and Portugal The semi-final lineup is rich in irony Fate must be smirking at this twist India to face off with Portugal Who will the Goans cheer for? Whose victory will we toast? Who are we Gons after all Mirror, mirror on the wall? Cynthia Gomes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Women of a lesser God - response to Mario
--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: Dear Mario, Honestly you make it sound like I go around with a scalpel and a neon sign on my head saying Buy one, get one free. I'd like to put a smiley at the end of that statement but abortion is no laughing matter and my heart goes out to all the parents who've ever had to consider one. Mario observes: Elisabeth, in a public forum, your scalpel, sometimes your axe, is what you write and what you opine. Words have meanings. I'm glad you have now acknowledged that abortion is no laughing matter, especially for the fetus. However, it was you who previously said, speaking as a proud liberal, that people had the undisputed right to choose abortion. It was you who then turned around and said that female feticide is abhorrent because you were the mother of a baby girl. Huh? This would mean, in your logic, that male feticide or random feticide is undisputed and perfectly acceptable. You cannot have it both ways, supporting undisputed feticide, then cringing when abortion-happy Indians and Chinese use this undisputed right to supposedly achieve other more heinous social ends. I do not use the term abortion-happy lightly either - the proof is in the wholesale and brutal infanticide of millions of unborn each year in a blatant attempt at population control at the convenience of the parents and at the expense of the unborn. You may pretend from your own way of thinking that each life is flushed after painful consideration. The sheer numbers would contradict your theory. The liberal feminists in America and elsewhere call it choice, but their choice is death and they run huge abortion clinics. It has never occurred to them to run huge adoption centers, like the conservative Christians and Mother Theresa's nuns do, where the other choice of life and adoption, to the hundreds of thousands of couples unable to conceive, can be considered and is encouraged. Do the atheists/agnostics run huge adoption centers in an attempt to save innocent lives? Perhaps they do, but I think they represent the unviable tissue mass crowd. But I digress. The liberal feminists in America scoff when conservatives want sexual education to begin with teaching an obvious unprovisional scientific truth: that the only certain way to avoid conception is through abstinence. It works 100% of the time, no matter what Cornel may say. They want to pretend the other methods are safe - they actually have the gall to call the other methods, none of which are safe, safe sex. They may be safer, but we all know they are not safe. This is a blatant falsehood that millions of people find out the hard way - then choose abortion because it is so much more convenient and less embarrassing than adoption. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Green and Stinking in Goa
--- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Green and Stinking --- The garbage problem has lingered for almost two years in the state, with the latest solution coming in the form of spat between the Deputy Chief Minister, Dr Wilfred de Souza and the Urban Development Minister, Mr Joaquim Alemao on the best proposal for garbage disposal. Both of them have separate plans on their stoves, with people who are supposed to benefit having little idea about what is best for them and the green Goa state. Together with the state, politics too has become garbage-ridden. Ever since the militant resistance by the villagers of Curca to the dumping of garbage from Panaji which witnessed burning down of heavy equipment and blockading of municipal trucks after the wall of the dump collapsed, spilling garbage into the village last year no solution has been found. One reason has been that following the example of Curca, residents of other villages have also opposed the dumping of garbage from Panaji and other cities. In a village where garbage was dumped by night, people attacked a senior official.The problem still remains unresolved. Several times ministers and officials have given the impression that they have found the solution. But the fact remains that the government and the municipal authorities are yet to identify landfill sites to dump garbage generated by the five major cities of Panaji, Mapusa, Margao, Vasco and Ponda. Perhaps, the government has not made a very sincere effort. There was suggestion made that the government get the panchayats to help locate and identify landfill sites, but we have heard more about panchas expressing themselves against garbage dumping than agreeing to work for the solution of the common problem of garbage disposal. The Urban Development Minister, Mr Joaquim Alemao some time back announced government plans to set up mini-garbage plants in the cities of Panaji, Mapusa, Margao and Ponda. Whoever heard of them later! The latest acrimonious debate between the Deputy Chief Minister, Dr Wilfred de Souza and the Urban Development Minister, Mr Joaquim Alemao leaves little scope for collecting thinking which is what is required to solve the problem. In the cities of western countries, garbage disposal problems are solved by intense discussions among the general public, businesses, civic authorities and waste haulers. Only after they have reached a consensus on all the aspects of convenient and effective waste disposal and recycling, including the landfill sites, the work is taken up. Since all parties are taken into confidence nay, are active partners the work goes on smoothly, and no public anger is experienced by the men or machines hauling the garbage. It is the collective duty of the state government, political parties, the panchayats, the civic bodies, and the general public to find landfill sites for the disposal of garbage from the major cities of Goa. Garbage disposal is no more a dumping job: there are separations for solid and other wastes. There is a range of technologies for recycling and for the use of garbage for natural fertilisation. The differences between the two ministers are over which type of the garbage disposal plan will be most beneficial and economical. Let there be a collective brainstorming and the sooner, the better on which plan is the best. There is sufficient data on the current and projected quantities of household waste needing to be disposed of in the major cities of the state. Once the best project is identified, the next task will be to finalise a site of the required acre-size. The size should be such as to be able to serve one or more cities waste disposal needs for many years to come. The state and local government authorities must ensure that all loads of material transported to local waste facilities have protection from littering or are covered well. This should apply to all vehicles such as pickup trucks, trailers, drop-boxes and packer trucks. There should be a penalty for non-compliance. This, together with recycling programmes at the landfill, could go a long way in satisfying not only the residents near the site but also the people living along the routes of waste transporation. Editorial in the The Navhind Times 07/07/06 page 10 = GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Working On Issues Of Development Democracy
Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humanists cannot reverse all the ills wrought upon this planet by the so-called religious in one generation. Mario replies: Forget about secular humanists curing ANY of mankind's ills. The point I made was that the secular humanists are not even in the arena, have never been in the arena, hiding behind self-serving labels and selective outrage that fools no one with even half a brain. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Moral code and Mahatma Gandhi
I have to agree with Mario here. One can never over-rate the Mahatma, not only for his enormous contribution to India but to humanity at large. Elisabeth -- --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Frederick \FN\ Noronha wrote: Mahatma Gandhi tends to be over-rated in the West. Though this is off-topic, do you believe it's because of the media blitz that he's benefitted from globally in the second half of the 20th century? FN PS: Not many realise that while Gandhi had strong views *against* the untouchability involving the lowest-of-the-low in the Indian caste hierarchy (or outside of it), he didn't have any problem with the caste system itself. Mario responds My scorecard gives MG immense credit for his staunch opposition to untouchability, which is the worst manifestation of the caste system. Then add to that his manifest belief that all men are created equal which got him killed by a Hindu fanatic, his personal kindness towards all and fearlessness in facing up to and eventually shaming the world's only superpower at the time to leave it's most valuable economic asset and go home. Previous breaks from colonialism were all based on armed resistance and open warfare. How can anyone over-rate such an exemplary life? ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa news for July 8, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa family turns house into footy museum (NDTV) The Chodankar family in Goa has taken their love of football to a new level by turning their house into a museum in honour of the 2006 World Cup. Their house in the Mapsa area of Goa, which is filled with quaint cottages and houses, can be spotted from a distance with flags and banners on display. http://www.ndtv.com/template/sportstemplate.asp?sportname=Reportstory=Goa family turns house into footy museumid=29141template=Fifa2006 *** Ravikanth and Kiran register another win (The Hindu) HYDERABAD: Defending champions V. Ravikanth Reddy and M. Kiran Reddy recorded their second consecutive win defeating Suresh Shirodkar and Ravi Shirodkar of Goa-II 21-12, 21-19 in the men's section of the ninth senior National beach volleyball ... http://www.thehindu.com/2006/07/07/stories/2006070708281700.htm *** Sombre mood in Goa as Portugal is beaten in World Cup (New Kerala) Panaji: Sombre mood ruled over the football fans in Goa, an erstwhile Portuguese colony, after Portugal lost to France in FIFA World Cup at Munich last night. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18717 *** Goa laments Portugal's loss in FIFA World Cup semi-finals (New Kerala) Panaji: Goan fans of the Portuguese national football team lamented its penalty kick loss to France in the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup. Dressed in Portuguese colours, jerseys and draped in Portugal's flag, the fans were left shocked by the defeat. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18879 *** Closure of vernacular schools: Goa forms committee (New Kerala) Panaji: Concerned over closure of vernacular medium primary schools, Goa government today formed a nine-member committee to study the causes and the situation that prompted the closure of such schools. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18824 *** Goa to allow small motorised canoe for fishing from July 15 (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa Government will lift ban on fishing on July 31. However, it has decided to allow fishing by small (36-feet long) motorised canoe from July 15. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18137 *** Goa to have smaller garbage treatment plants (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa government will go in for smaller garbage treatment plants in all 13 municipal councils to tackle the problem of solid waste management, Urban Development Minister Joaquim Alemao said today. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18305 *** Power Grid Corp asked to estimate Goa's power need (New Kerala) Panaji: The Goa government has entrusted the Power Grid Corporation with the task of estimating the state's power requirement for the next 12 years. http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnewsid=18779 *** Meet Portugalâ#130;¬#132;¢s lady fan in Goa (Yahoo! India News) The Portugal-France match has a special edge in India, especially in Goa as one would expect. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060705/211/65mwo.html *** A Little History: Churches of Old Goa (About.com) People go to Goa for mostly hedonistic reasons, right? To tan their breasts, let their hair down, attend a few wild parties. But Old Goa, or Velha Goa as it... http://goasia.about.com/b/a/257266.htm Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
