[Goanet] Press statement for kind favour of publication - Renaming of New Asilo Hospital-Mapusa
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- The name 'Asilo Hospital' is synonymous with Bardez and Bardezkars for as long as we remember and beyond. The suggestion that the New Asilo Hospital Complex be named after the first CM of Goa Shri Dayanand Bandodkar by the Mapusa (BJP) MLA Shri. Francis D'Souza in the Legislative Assembly recently, borders on the absurd and something that we had not expected of thinking people's representatives. Shri. Francis D'Souza has shown his vote-bank politician's mentality by worst. Asilo Hospital of Mapusa must remain 'Asilo Hospital'. There are many personages of Goan origin who have slogged for this age old institution and as such, if this institution must be named after any one, it must be one of these personages and not Shri. Dayanand Bandodkar. Goa seems to have been afflicted by a naming sickness. It is either Dayanand Bandodkar or Shivaji Maharaj. Both these, one a community icon, and the other a respectable icon of Maharashtra, were hell bent on making Goa a part of Maharashtra, especially Dayanand Bandodkar vide the vile merger issue. One of the deserving personages that come to mind is Dr. Pundalik Gaetonde. There could be many others more or less deserving than Dr. Gaetonde. But 'Asilo Hospital' , if it must be named after any personage, it must be named, as an example, 'Dr. Pundalik Gaetonde - Asilo Hospital' or say 'Dr. Kemani - Asilo Hospital' . The word 'Asilo' must be preserved by all means because this name is in the hearts of the people of Bardez. We are not certain of the origin of Dr. Kemani but he was in charge of the Asilo Hospital immediately after 1961 for many years. If things had gone right, Dr. Pundalik Gaetonde would have been the first Chief Minister of Goa, had he accepted the condition from Dayanand Bandodar that he will work for the 'Merger' of Goa into Maharashtra. It will be written in golden letters in the history of Goa that Dr. Gaetonde spurned this offer point blank because he was the true son of Goa and the merger of Goa with Maharashtra could not have figured in his being. It is unfortunate for Goa, and a different matter altogether, that the first Chief Minister of the so called 'Liberated Goa' was not the true son of Goa. This, the MLA of Mapusa, Shri. Francis D'Souza must know in the first place before venturing on a name suggestion spree for official institution of Goa. In the eventuality that the New Asilo Hospital Complex of Mapusa is named after Dayanand Bandokar or given any other insignificant political appeasement name, this Party will revert the name back to the original 'Asilo Hospital' when it comes to power in Goa, just like the Chief Minister's Official Residence name plate has been reverted back to the 'Chief Minister's Residence' from 'LAXIMI', an equally absurd name, as absurd as the occupier of this august official residence at that time. And, Goans may rest assured that this will be done. for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- Floriano Lobo Gen. Secretary/Spokesperson 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Be bold. Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow. [Note: PPS stickers are available at CHAMPS Sports Shops - Mapusa-Panjim-Margao] It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Be bold. Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow. [Note: PPS stickers are available
[Goanet] Daily Grook #659
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- DAILY GROOK #659 == STAKE ACHE == by Francis Rodrigues cattle farms even cld make or break, us folk who often had lots at steak! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 _ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960
[Goanet] David Frum a Republican pariah in health-care debate in the US
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Posting this because of the current debate ensuing on Goa-Net. Has nothing to do with Goa. Some of you my know that Canadian (and now also American) David Frum was one of George W. Bush's speech writers. A solid Republican. He was fired from his position of resident scholar at the AEI because of his criticism of the Republican Party over the Health Care debate - ironically losing all his health benefits. You might be interested in this article from: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/786175--david-frum-a-republican-pariah-in-health-care-debate Note the last para. The Canadian system is like the bumblebee – it shouldn't be able to fly when you look at the diagrams. But because everyone behaves better than the system invites them to behave, it works. But that's also a reason why it is not a model for export – Americans might not behave that way, Frum says. == David Frum a Republican pariah in health-care debate WASHINGTON–It wasn't the first time David Frum suggested his own kind have lost the plot. But this week, when Frum branded America's health-care breakthrough a defeat for Republicans akin to Waterloo, the Toronto-born political commentator felt the fury of the far right as never before. We went for all the marbles, we ended with none, Frum lamented in a blog posting that sparked a system-crashing torrent of traffic at his web portal, www.frumforum.com. By obsessing on the humiliation of U.S. President Barack Obama above all else, Frum wrote, the Republican strategy of no negotiations, no compromise, nothing consigned American conservatives to their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s. And the wound was entirely self-inflicted. Frum's solution: Republican leaders now must show the courage of their convictions, abandon the frothing yet futureless extremes of the right and instead stake out sober, reasoned middle-ground where most Americans live. On cue, many stateside conservatives went straight for the messenger, finding new ways to shred the former speech writer to George W. Bush. The cacophony of Frum-bashing appeared to reach a zenith on Thursday, when the conservative American Enterprise Institute confirmed it was terminating Frum's position as a resident scholar. Though AEI insists the dismissal was coincidental – relating to money rather than politics – it came with one especially stinging irony: Frum and family will lose their health-care benefits. None of this is a laughing matter if you are David Frum. But when the Toronto Star caught up with him at his Washington home, Frum couldn't help but chuckle at some of the invective. Especially the attacks suggesting his greatest sin of all was to be Canadian. Calling someone a Canadian is not an insult that has a lot of bite in the United States, said Frum, who in fact added American citizenship to his repertoire in 2007. What Frum wants to make abundantly clear at the outside is this: love it or hate it, he remains as conservative as ever. He opposed Obamacare. But unlike the Republican leadership, he saw it as inevitable. With control of both the House and Senate and a solid presidential mandate, Democrats were simply not going to miss the opportunity to pass the one thing they wanted for half a century. If the Democrats failed on heath-care reform, it would be like an Olympic athlete inadvertently tying his shoelaces together and losing the race because he fell face forward into the dirt, Frum said. If they failed, the country would have turned on them, saying, `They can't govern.' Well, now they've governed. The country will decide if it likes it or not. That is the key mistake of the (Republican) obstructionists – they failed to accept this reality. And now the bill is forever. This is a generational change, like Medicare in the 1960s. Once you achieve these things they are permanent, he told the Star. The 49-year-old son of late, great CBC broadcaster Barbara Frum and Toronto developer Murray Frum, says he's still proud to bear the Canadian insult. His sister, Linda, is now a senator in Ottawa, his eldest daughter attends University of Toronto and his summertime centre of gravity remains Ontario's Prince Edward County – where he and his wife, journalist Danielle Crittenden, are finally getting around to building our own house after 20 years at the vacation retreat of his father-in-law, Toronto Sun columnist Peter Worthington. Though he has spent much of his adult life stateside – first Yale, then
[Goanet] FN's dream --- to go back to candle light ?
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Currently there are about ten arbitrary power cuts in a day in Bangalore, India's so called Silicon Valley. Besides, there is a regular cut of one or two hours every day. What work can one possibly do with such a situation ? If this is Bangalore's situation, one can only imagine how things are in other parts of the country. For anyone to make a living in today's information age, power and bandwidth is as much as a necessity as food and oxygen. But FN would prefer to go back to the cave-age I suppose. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- It was precisely to avoid such time-wasting, puerile and pediatric diatribe that I had defined the terms. Assuming that JC had honestly misunderstood my expression Ladainha which is familiar to Goan Catholics and anticipating that, as is his wont, he would twist and turn my statements, I had only clarified what I meant by the following paras in my original post: The Goan Hindus have a rite called Satyanarayana Puja which is performed for almost all the reasons that the Catholics celebrate the Ladainha. In this puja too the prayers are sung. Therefore, as a substitute, we have a conglomeration of the Litany of Our Lady in Latin, Salve Rainha and Virgem Mae de Deus in Portuguese all set to music. (Are the different music scores for these prevalent anywhere else? I doubt it.) This is followed by the singing the hymns or 'orasanvam' in honour of the saints of the family (whose images are present in the oratory). I would be happy to learn of any parallels elsewhere. Have the definitions modified my original statement? My straight question to JC: Do you still contest my surmise that the entire format of 'ladainha' (elaborated above) as sung in Goa was not brought by the Portuguese but was put together in Goa itself? I have not requested him to fetch any U-tubes from the 15th century; just INFORM us that this format was prevalent in Portugal a couple of centuries ago so as to be available for export to Goa. If possible, he could also inform us whether it was exported to some other colony as well. Now that JC has claimed that he too was one of those who originally thought of of the project and was associated with some members of the Toronto group, I would be happy if someone directly connected with the Toronto recording would tell us whether they would restrict themselves to the recording of only the litany beginning with Kyrie eleison and ending with Agnus Dei or would they also include the SINGING of Salve Rainha and Virgem Mae de Deus as well. This will go a long way to clarify WHAT THEY MEAN by 'ladainha'. Another suggestion / request to the Toronto group: In years gone by, during the month of May, almost every ward in Goa used to celebrate the feast of the Holy Cross where the Latin litany was sung, but with some differences: (1) the musical accompaniment also included the drums, (2) the Salve Rainha was replaced with 'Regina Coeli laetare' (upto the feast of Ascension of Our Lord), (3) the whole rite ended with the singing of Exultemos com alegria to the accompaniment of drums. Nowadays these feasts have become very rare. Could these, if possible, be also recorded for posterity, especially when this rite has become almost extinct? When I visited my original post, I was shocked at the very first sentence therein. I am glad that JC did not pounce on that; he could have really made mincemeat of me. When that sentence is read with the rest of the para, the reader would understand that I was referring to 'ters' as a purely Goan rite which it is not. I was referring to the 'ladainha'; but, from the next sentence on, I digressed into the situation in Mumbai wrt the 'ters'. My profound apologies to any reader who might have got this impression. Sebastian Borges PS: I do not know whether Girgolina Sattam were prepared at Sokoilo Vaddo but they were certainly sold at Shimoniposaro next door. No re baba JC? Lembra nao?(;-) Sebastian Borges On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: re 1: please review the original sentence: Did it say entire ladainha format? Did the Borges post say that? Why modify the statement which was challenged without acknowledging the chip on one's shoulder? re 3: so the ladainha sung by Goans ...was home grown? really? The next thing I will hear is that the Gregorian chant was also home grown in 'Sokoilo Vaddo' in Velim! What prejudicial nonsense is this? jc ps: I am trying to locate Youtube recordings made before 1498 - to satisfy the Borges question infra. I have been told that some antique recordings exist. But what is the use if cybercafe's do not allow access to such media? (;-) Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: 1: I would request JC to inform us whether the entire 'ladainha' format, as SUNG in Goa existed in Portugal or elsewhere at least a couple of centuries ago. 2: If yes, then we can be certain that it was brought to Goa by the Portuguese. 3: Else, I shall have to stick to my original statement, it would be a fallacy to say that Ladainha which is familiar to
Re: [Goanet] Thank you, Mr Obama
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- -- Original message -- From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com On the cost being paid by Jim - it depends on how many people are covered and the ages therein. He has got children being dealt by paeditricians, as well as one who escaped the World Trade Centre inferno! Any aged parents to boot? Gabe Menezes. Hello Gabe, I don't want to make my age public (unless you want to find that on your own), but I can state that I wasn't yet born, when the last major social benefits overhaul took place in the US. That overhaul took place when Medicare legislation was signed back in 1965. My young family and I, have zero medical issues - other than usual children's shots and annual physicals. In the US, it does not matter whether you have one child or 10 children, the cost of insurance for all kids is the same - meaning, someone like myself who has two kids pays the same as someone who has 10 kids. I could live without insurance and pocket the money, but that would mean, I'd become another of those nephews that Ms Viviana Coelho was talking about :( . The insurance cost that I stated previously, is a TYPICAL insurance cost for a family of four in the US. New York being a little more expensive, might have a small markup to cover the extra cost of living. Single persons pay the least for their coverage. If folks on GoaNet aren't accustomed to the kind of costs I am talking about, its because they are either single, have no kids whatsoever under their plan, or their employers absorb most of the cost. Alternatively, they may not be purchasing any coverage - I know many Goans who don't and are relying on a government bailout to pick up the tab, incase of a catastrophic event. Its a good thing that Mr Obama rounded up all these bums under his plan and would now be forced to comply or risk getting a visit from the tax man (IRS). In the US, the older parents cannot be included in the medical coverage of their working children. That group is either covered under AARP, Medicare, employers (if they still have a job that provides medical benefits), self funded or a combination of these entities. In a worst case scenario, their cost is absorbed by Medicaid - which is another government funded program for the really poor. I am not 100% certain, but I believe, if you are a senior citizen, the insurance costs are probably subsidized through plans available through AARP or Medicare. I strongly believe everyone should pay their fair share for medical coverage - just like how we pay our taxes and just like how we purchase auto insurance. We should also curb the abuses by the insurance carriers - and chop their appetite for getting ultra rich on the backs of hard working families. This is what Obama care is all about. Jim F New York.
Re: [Goanet] Agony of God
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Dear Fr. Ivo, I have no intention in getting argumentative over scripture. My art practice looks at religion, sexuality and consciousness; as such certain things/ideas/notions interest me. I would like to point something out in all humility. The example you chose to show Jesus not resorting to violence against his fellowmenis perhaps not the most appropriate considering that in Jn 8 10-11, Jesus was making it clear to Peter, and making sure that prophecy would be fulfilled. That could not be jeopardised at any cost. 10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus. 11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? The words, the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? suggest to put it mildly but unequivocally that nothing was supposed to come in between his fate/deliverance and Peter acting on his mind. Yet remember it was Jesus who drove the money changers out of the temple. There must have been trepidation fear truly amongst the traders at being chased out. Luke 9:52-55 would be more appropriate to make your point: And he sent messengers ahead of him, who went and entered a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him; but the people would not receive him, because his face was set toward Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw it, they said, Lord, do you want us to bid fire come down from heaven and consume them? But he turned and rebuked them. As Shusaku Endo says in his Preface to the American Ed., of his book, A Life of Jesus (written in 1973, Eng trans 1978 by Richard A Schuhert), which I presume is what you are pointing towards---Jesus as I depict him is a person who lived for love and still more love, and yet he was put to death, for he chose to live without violent resistance. My way of depicting Jesus is rooted in my being a Japanese novelist. I wrote this book for the benefit of Japanese readers who have no Christian tradition of their own and who know almost nothing about Jesus. What is more, I was determined to highlight the particular aspect of love in his personality precisely in order to make Jesus understandable in terms of the religious psychology of my non-Christian countrymen and thus to demonstrate that Jesus is not alien to their religious sensibilities. Others books by Endo are Silence; and The Final Martyrs (pub just before his death in 1996) If time permits something on the Zealots later. I am juggling a lot but had to respond to this. venantius j pinto Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:07:33 -0800 From: Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Agony of God THE AGONY OF CHRIST TODAY *Dr.Ivo da Concei??o Souza (DEL) Jesus of Nazareth was a revolutionary in the true sense of the word, as can be seen from his manifesto (cf.Lk 4:16-21). Jesus came to the world to proclaim the good news to the poor, freedom to the oppressed, to announce the acceptable year of the Lord. He was to usher in a new era of renewal, a new social order, God's Kingdom/Reign/Lordship on earth. Jesus sharply criticized the rich oppressors and political rulers of his day. But he never supported the use of physical violence against his fellowmen. Rather, Jesus consistently rejected the urges of some of his followers to employ such methods of violence (Jn 18:10-11).
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (30Mar10)
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- You've High Fever...Heading for a Nervous Breakdown...What's Troubling You? My son's SSC exams! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet highlights: Hospitals in today's Goa ... book on priests of Salcete... Cocky talks... (by Selma Carvalho)
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Dear Fr Velinkar, Thanks for your input! Where is this available? Can I purchase a copy in Goa? Best wishes, FN On 30 March 2010 07:41, frjoseph velinkar frjosephvelin...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Frederick, Please include in your list of books The Patriarchate of the East Indies by Fr Venancio Fonseca. It throws a lot of light on Goa. -- Frederick Noronha Books from Goa :: http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] Just curious
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Dear Mr. Cabral, Is it necessary that we must first think in English and then translate our thoughts into our mother-tongue? Can we not think directly in the mother-tongue? For a fact, I did not translate. But for your sake, I would translate my expression into English as Truth alone shall prevail. The thought may not even be original; it might have been the result of what I had read and assimilated. Coming to your Konkani expressions, I regret that they are not happy ones. Why use the exclusivity particle '-ch' twice in the same sentence? I would re-frame your sentences as Sot sodanch zoitivont zata and Sotakuch zoit melltta. Or even Sotak zoit mellttach. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges --- On Mon, 29/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote: From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 4:34 PM Mr. Borges, Thanks for the compliment. But can you tell me if by any cahnce you were trying to translate the English expression truth always prevails in which case the expression in Konkani would be Sotuch zoitivont sodanch or Sotakuch sodanch zoit melltta Richard Cabral Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Richard, All three are synonymous just like he won, he was victorious, the victory was his, he gained victory are also synonymous. I must congratulate you on your faultless orthography in Romi Konknni. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges --- On Fri, 26/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote: From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Just curious To: s_m_bor...@yahoo.com Cc: goa...@goanet.org Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 2:50 PM Dear Mr. Borges, Only out of curiosity I thought of asking this. You always sign off by saying Sotachench zoit zatelem. Suppose I say Sotuch zoitivont zatelem or Sotakuch zoit mellttelem will that have a different meaning? Deu borem korum! Richard Cabral Disclaimer: Mail from BSNL The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Early bird or night owl?
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Re: [Goanet] Just curious
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Dear Mr. Borges, The purpose of my asking was to point out to you that your expression in Konkani is in the future tense whereas the English one is in the present. Since universal truths like the sun rises in the East etc etc are expressed in the present tense the expression Truth alone prevails is also written thus. If in Konkani also you want to express an universal truth then your expression should also be in the present tense irrespective of whether you think in English or Konkani. Dont you think so? Mog asum! Richard Cabral Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: --- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Dear Mr. Cabral, Is it necessary that we must first think in English and then translate our thoughts into our mother-tongue? Can we not think directly in the mother-tongue? For a fact, I did not translate. But for your sake, I would translate my expression into English as Truth alone shall prevail. The thought may not even be original; it might have been the result of what I had read and assimilated. Coming to your Konkani expressions, I regret that they are not happy ones. Why use the exclusivity particle '-ch' twice in the same sentence? I would re-frame your sentences as Sot sodanch zoitivont zata and Sotakuch zoit melltta. Or even Sotak zoit mellttach. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges --- On Mon, 29/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote: From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 4:34 PM Mr. Borges, Thanks for the compliment. But can you tell me if by any cahnce you were trying to translate the English expression truth always prevails in which case the expression in Konkani would be Sotuch zoitivont sodanch or Sotakuch sodanch zoit melltta Richard Cabral Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Richard, All three are synonymous just like he won, he was victorious, the victory was his, he gained victory are also synonymous. I must congratulate you on your faultless orthography in Romi Konknni. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges --- On Fri, 26/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote: From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Just curious To: s_m_bor...@yahoo.com Cc: goa...@goanet.org Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 2:50 PM Dear Mr. Borges, Only out of curiosity I thought of asking this. You always sign off by saying Sotachench zoit zatelem. Suppose I say Sotuch zoitivont zatelem or Sotakuch zoit mellttelem will that have a different meaning? Deu borem korum! Richard Cabral Disclaimer: Mail from BSNL The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Ladainha or Ladin or Baxa Ladin or Litany - Some clips
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Ladainha or Ladin or Litany - Some clips On the feast day (way side cross etc) there was a special singing of Litany called 'Baxa Ladin'. It's the same latin ladin but with diffeent or festive tunes. Baxa ladin usually longer than the usual ones. Some clips Litany in Latin At 3 kings chapel. Cuelim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xzGPFP1_1Q Local Village Cross Feast day special- 1 (Baxa Ladin) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvc1vJFoK-w Feast day Special - 2 Regina/Alelluia / Exultemus coi alegria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9T2H_SiZnk Bambolim- Litany (Mostly Konkani and with common Holy Cross hymns) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6VnabfrgO0 Laudate in Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laeo8LFfQlE http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.com/2009/02/saibinnichi-ladainh-latin-ani-konkani.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: [1] My straight question to JC: Do you still contest my surmise that the entire format of 'ladainha' (elaborated above) as sung in Goa was not brought by the Portuguese but was put together in Goa itself? [2] Now that JC has claimed that he too was one of those who originally thought of of the project and was associated with some members of the Toronto group, Dear Prof Borges, wrt # 1: Now that you have brought in the phrase entire format into the sentence, my answer to that question is: I do not know. Whenever something is brought from somewhere and transplanted somewhere else, some 'local' flavouring does (is expected to) take place. e.g. food. A classical example is the Mughlai and (Indian) Chinese cooking. It would be a fallacy for me to pronounce on Day 1 that It is a fallacy to state that 'Chinese cooking' was brought to India by the Chinese .and then argue with the additional phrase entire format of Chinese cooking! IF you have verifiable proof that some (expected) home-grown ingredients entered into the Ladainha which was brought by the Portuguese into Goa, please provide that proof. No 'invented' proof just the facts, Sir! wrt # 2: Please refrain from misrepresenting sentences written in simple English. You are free to make your ghuspott in Konkani esp Devanagri Konkani. But please do NOT reinvent my statements. With specific reference to the Konkani Rosary / Ladainha project, please advise me where I have claimed that I was one of those who originally thought of of the project and was associated with some members of the Toronto group, Once again: You may re-invent your own words to try win arguments, but please - do not re-invent my words and in doing so, misrepresent what I have stated. Por favor, não esqueça. jc
[Goanet] Formula for happiness? - Videos - iVillage Health
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[Goanet] Screening of The Sky Below: A Documentary on India-Pakistan Partition
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- The Columbia University International Relations Forum presents: *The Sky Below: A Documentary on India-Pakistan Partition, and Dinner and Conversation with Filmmaker Sarah Singh* When: Wednesday, March 31st; Time: Panel and Dinner at 8pm, Film Screening at 9pm Where: Lerner Hall, Roone Arledge Auditorium Called The Slumdog Millionaire of documentaries, The Sky Below is a documentary film exploring the creation of Pakistan and the 1947 Partition of the Indian Subcontinent, weaving together 5,000 years of culture, while investigating the lingering after-effects of this six-decade old political divide. It has been in over fifteen international film festivals and has been the recipient of numerous Best Documentary awards over the last year. The film screening will be preceded by a a buffet-style Indian dinner and panel discussion with filmmaker Sarah Singh, Professor of International Relations Jack Snyder, and Quaid-i-Azam Professor of Pakistani Politics Hassan Abbas. It is hosted by Columbia University International Relations Forum, and co-sponsored by the Roosevelt Institution.
[Goanet] 12 companies bid to remove River Princess -- From the Herald online edition
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- The following article made interesting reading Here is a quote from the article -- “Three bidders are from Goa – Madgavkar Salvage, Salgaocar Mining Pvt Ltd and Sea Pleasure,” Doesn't the River Princess belong to Salgaocar Mining Pvt. Ltd and Mr. Anil Salgaocar? If Salgaocar Mining Pvt. Ltd, has the winning bid to remove the trans-shipper, the Goa Govt. might end up paying the company crores of rupees to clean up its own mess! I believe that elsewhere in the world, Mr. Salgaoclar would have been sued for creating an ecological disaster. Naguesh http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/12-companies-bid-to-remove-River-Princess/35276.html 12 companies bid to remove River Princess HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 29 Twelve companies including two from Singapore and three from Goa have sent their bids for removal of River Princess, which has been grounded off the Candolim coast since 2001. After several unsuccessful bids by Jaisu Shipping to tow away the ship, the Tourism Department took a decision recently to cut the ship and tow it away. “Twelve parties have submitted their bids for cutting River Princess into pieces,” Director of Tourism Swapnil Naik told Herald. He said that while 11 tenders were put in the tender box, one was sent by e-mail. “Out of the 12, two are Singapore-based companies they are Smith International and Titan Salvagers,” he said. “Three bidders are from Goa – Madgavkar Salvage, Salgaocar Mining Pvt Ltd and Sea Pleasure,” he stated. Naik said that today only the bids were opened and the technical committee would meet again on Wednesday or Thursday to scrutinise them,”he said. The State Disaster Management Authority recently met under the chairmanship of Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat and decided to float new tenders to cut the ill-fated vessel and remove it by pieces. The authority’s decision came in the wake of indications sent by the team of the Union Ministry of Earth Sciences, that came down to Goa recently, to inspect the condition of the vessel. The team found that it was impossible to tow away the vessel in view of its bad condition, especially the part not visible from the shore. The team has also indicated that it was not possible to tow away the ship in view of its critical condition as it has developed cracks.
[Goanet] Belgaum native murdered at Bicholim
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- -- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM, MARCH 29 A 29-year-old mason from Ramdurg-Belgaum is suspected to have been murdered in his rented room at Gaonkarwada-Bicholim. According to Bicholim police, the decomposed body of one Verupaksha was found under the bed in his rented room at Gaonkarwada late Monday evening. Police further said the body was covered with an empty gunny bag and suspect that the daily wage worker might have been murdered two days ago. Earlier, the incident came to light late Monday evening, when people residing in adjoining houses got a foul smell from the Verupaksha’s room. The residents immediately alerted Bicholim police, who rushed to the site and found the decomposed body. Police also recovered deceased motorcycle (GA-01-B-9126), which was found parked near his rented room, and recovered driving license and other documents, from which police identified the deceased. Bicholim police PI Harish Madkaikar, Bicholim Municipal Council Chairperson Satish Gaonkar and Councillor Ajit Birge were at the site till late Monday night. Bicholim police is investigating the case further.
Re: [Goanet] Just curious
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- I feel : soth kedins (kennans) budana, (budchem naa) = truth always prevails. Here 'budana' (does not sink) denotes prevail. soth budana = truth prevails what is opposite to truth (soth) - lie (phot?) defeat = solvonn? he lost = tho solvalo, tho harlo? victory = jeek? zaith winner =zaithevonth? is he ilterate = thaka shikop asa?, tho vachunk, borounk zaNa?, thaka vachunk, borounk yeta? reading=vasaap? write =baraap? author: boroupi, baraiNaar? written contract=borpisinhim kharar? Excuse the spellings MD Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org, rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious Dear Mr. Cabral, Is it necessary that we must first think in English and then translate our thoughts into our mother-tongue? Can we not think directly in the mother-tongue? For a fact, I did not translate. But for your sake, I would translate my expression into English as Truth alone shall prevail. The thought may not even be original; it might have been the result of what I had read and assimilated. Coming to your Konkani expressions, I regret that they are not happy ones. Why use the exclusivity particle '-ch' twice in the same sentence? I would re-frame your sentences as Sot sodanch zoitivont zata and Sotakuch zoit melltta. Or even Sotak zoit mellttach. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges --- On Mon, 29/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote: From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 4:34 PM Mr. Borges, Thanks for the compliment. But can you tell me if by any cahnce you were trying to translate the English expression truth always prevails in which case the expression in Konkani would be Sotuch zoitivont sodanch or Sotakuch sodanch zoit melltta Richard Cabral Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Richard, All three are synonymous just like he won, he was victorious, the victory was his, he gained victory are also synonymous.? I must congratulate you on your faultless orthography in Romi Konknni. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges
[Goanet] Kollywood (Konkani films): A rich history
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Konknni Cholchitram launch interview Author Isidore Dantas speaks to Goa Sudharop's Shilla Almeida regarding the launch of his highly anticipated Konkani filmbook Konknni Cholchitram released in honour of Goa Sudharop's 10 year anniversary. Shilla Almedia (SA): Please tell us a little about yourself. Isidore Dantas (ID): I have been writing to Konkani magazines from the age of eleven. At present I am 62. I have contributed to Aitarachem Vachop, Udentechem Nekhetr, Vauraddeancho Ixtt, Sot, Divtti,. The Goan Sports Weekly, Gulab, Poddbimb. I now regularly write for Jivit in Roman script and for Uzvadd in Devnagri script. Whenever time permits I contribute to Goa Today, Gomantak Times and Sunaparant. My first book on Konkani proverbs was released in September 2007 entitled Vozram-a treasure trove of Konkani adages with English interpretation at the hands of the Goa Chief Minister. In October 2008, I was awarded the Al Jerry Braganza Award for the work on Konkani films again at the hands of Goa CM. Besides this, I regularly contribute to Akashwani, Mumbai. I have also written the sub-titles for the Konkani film DVD Bhuianrantlo Monis. I will be receiving the Fr Freddy da Costa Memorial award for Journalism instituted by Dalgado Konkani Akademi, Goa on 8th April 2010. SA: What prompted you to write the book? ID: Ten years ago, an editor friend of mine handed over me a daily newspaper from outside Goa which contained an article on Konkani films. When I browsed it, I found that it was incomplete. That is how I started to research on the subject. But it was not an easy task. I remembered that many films had been broadcast by Mumbai Doordarshan. When I enquired with them, I got a shock of my life. They informed me that since no one came to enquire about the films since last 15 years, they do not possess them any longer. Akashwani Mumbai and Akashwani Panaji do not have old records. National Film Archives of India, Pune has two Konkani films deposited with them but the whereabouts about the person depositing the same is not known. The task was completed with the assistance of Konkani enthusiasts all over the world. SA: What does the title Konknni Cholchitram mean? ID: The title represents Konkani films. Since films, cinema are English words I have used the Konkani word which means moving images = movies. SA: What is the book about? ID: The research work is on celluloid Konkani films which consists of 282 pages all in colour with about 269 photographs. It comprises information on all 31 Konkani celluloid films produced. 23 films from Goa, 7 from Mangalore, 1 from Bangalore. It includes Black... produced in Kuwait and also the latest Poltoddcho Monis which won award at the Toronto Festival. The book contains 107 songs out of which 85 are with music notes. The book also consists of a chapter on Konkani people who have contributed to Bollywood. SA: How and where can people purchase copies of Konknni Cholchitram? ID: The book will be available for purchase online and with other distributors in India and throughout the Goan diaspora. Details will follow. SA: Why should people purchase the book? ID: The book covers all the Konkani celluloid films so far and contains details such as the story, the producer’s profile, photographs, songs some of which are with music notes. I was looking for a reference book on Konkani films which I could not find and hence decided to fill in the gap. SA: Do you have any other planned publications? ID: My next book entitled “Utorsod” will be released on 1st May 2010 in Goa. It comprises of a quiz of almost thousand questions on matters relating to Goa which are hidden in a maze. SA: Would you encourage other Goans to publish their work? ID: Publishing is very difficult. It is generally not financially viable since the Goan market is small. Fortunately George Pinto personally funded my book and obtained sponsors too. This is an innovative model which should make it more attractive for Goan authors to publish their work. Otherwise a lot of good material will go unpublished. SA: Thank you for your time and good luck. ID: Thank you, much appreciated.
Re: [Goanet] Thank you, Mr Obama
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote: [1] I could live without insurance and pocket the money, but that would mean, I'd become another of those nephews that Ms Viviana Coelho was talking about :( . [2] The insurance cost that I stated previously, is a TYPICAL insurance cost for a family of four in the US. New York being a little more expensive, might have a small markup to cover the extra cost of living. [3] I strongly believe everyone should pay their fair share for medical coverage - just like how we pay our taxes and just like how we purchase auto insurance. [4] We should also curb the abuses by the insurance carriers - and chop their appetite for getting ultra rich on the backs of hard working families. COMMENT: I re-posted the above to emphasise the points made (very correctly) by Jim. Both Viviana and Vivian are probably unaware. I agree with much of what Marlon has written on the subject - in his latest post. Part of the problem is that Insurers' are actually brokers who re and re and re-insure with Mega Insurers like (say) Lloyds. It is a risk-spreading and money-creaming exercise. If anything happens e.g. Hurricane, Earthquake All costs go up. Every event is used by the 'greedy' (and the agents) to rake in some more profits. These are the chaps that the Pubbies support. On the Dem side is the huge bureaucracy, unions, trial lawyers who also milk the system. In the middle are the health-care professionals and patients. Just in case there is a notion that only large families with many medical problems have High Insurance premiums, here is an exchange between a client (party of 2) who has never claimed (and hopes he never has to) and the insurance representative: Q: In a previous correspondence, I had asked about No Claim reductions in premiums. You promised to check. Grateful for update A: I'm afraid that we do not give any reductions on renewal premiums --sorry for any delay of the answer to your question. good wishes jc
[Goanet] Neat Goa map, 1750
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Re: [Goanet] Thank you, Mr Obama
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- J. Colaco wrote: 1: That having been noted, would you say that the level of taxation in Canada is significantly higher than that in the USA. jc, Every year, I file a tax return in both Canada and the US. Every year, regardless of my income, I get a refund of a few dollars from the US tax authority. In other words, the US tax rates are marginally lower than that of Canada. 4: I am surprised that in Canada, one can be fined for missing an annual check up. Is this true in the country of 'Malette v Shulman'? Does this mean that an individual is forced to provide consent to a doctor for an annual physical exam (or risk a fine)? To make this clear, the doctor is allowed to charge his patient for missing the annual exam. The reasoning is that doctor was deprived of his income and thus s/he is now allowed to charge the patient in lieu of the fee the doctor would have got from the govt. If the patient does not want to pay, the patient is free to change doctors. venantius j pinto wrote: Seriously---did you really not know the cost of insurance in the U.S., and the basic permutations of what one gets in the US for what one puts out in the US? Perhaps you were attempting to draw a composite picture, and hopefully did not really find what you Jim said---too funny. Its not funny and not a joke bro. Its very real. People we know are in trouble in various ways. v, When I was working in the US, 20 years ago, my health insurance premiums were $150 per month. When I got laid off, the insurance company was kind enough to inform me that they would now provide the same insurance for $300.00 a month. My health situation had not changed. All that had changed was that I had become jobless. The insurance company felt that it was a good moment to er, capitalize on the situation. I understand that the US population has got bigger since I left and since there are more people buying health insurance, the premiums must go higher, but I was totally totally astounded when Jim F. pointed out that it now cost him $15,000 annually to insure his family. Another way to view this scenario, since the province provides our health services, I have an extra $15,000 a year to save or spend, just because I live in Canada and not the US. I have a faint feeling that if all this info has just come to your notice, then you must be relieved that the cards life dealt you placed your being in Canada, or perhaps for good reason you made a decision not to come to the U.S. I actually earned two degrees in the US before I moved to Canada. The reason I moved here is because there is a social life in Toronto. The additional bonus for me is that the people I grew up with in Tanzania, all live within 45 minutes from where I do. Jim F and Dr. J Colaco to his superb credit as a doctor---both put it well. Just in case you are not aware of it, Dr. J. Colaco is both a doctor and a lawyer. Obama is only a lawyer but he gets the fact that you reduce medical expenses by prevention of diseases, rather than by treatment. Those who do not understand this are the very people who are bitching about the new health bill. Mervyn1108Lobo __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [Goanet] wanted a female to share a 2-bedroom apt. with a single female in East York (Toronto )
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[Goanet] Examining conscience: putting trust to test, who will be next? (Menin Rodrigues, Pakistan)
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- EXAMINING CONSCIENCE: PUTTING TRUST TO TEST, WHO WILL BE NEXT? By Menin Rodrigues menin...@gmail.com Sex and child-abuse scandals first hit the Catholic Church in the United States of America in 2004 followed by the Dutch and Swiss Churches; and then came the startling news of the priests' betrayal in Ireland. Now it has resurfaced in the archdiocese of Munich and Freising, Germany, the home grounds of former Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger. Ironically, the past sins of the Catholic Church are being resurrected, reaching millions of people in their homes, through a series of shocking testimonials from victims, thanks to the proliferation of advanced communication mediums -- the Internet in particular. Will the Internet be castigated as a devil's laboratory? It is interesting to note how the spread of technology in today's time and era has enabled many nations, organizations, institutions, groups and individuals to accept their shortcomings and make public apologies for the sake of sanity. From Pope John Paul II's apology for the victims of the holocaust to Tiger Woods' acceptance of his infidelity, the world has come to believe that sins (with a pinch of salt) can be forgiven if they are accepted as bitter truths and not remain as dirt swept under the carpet. Catholicism has been a global Faith for centuries and people have believed and trusted in its doctrines since time immemorial. The clergy has always been respected and honored for all their works but in reality the strayed amongst them now seem familiar to what Bill Clinton was to the people of America and Tiger Woods to the world's sporting fraternity. The latter sinned, accepted their human weaknesses and are carrying on their lives -- but with a stigma. The President was impeached and Tiger went into the woods! What will happen to the likes of Fr. Peter Hullermann? The Church's future is its people, and very especially the youth and children. The future priests and religious will come from this lot, and from this lot the history of the Church's past will be re-examined. This group of future Church leaders will learn and accept the transcendent reality of technology in as much as the studies of Sacred Scripture, Theology and Canon laws. The phase through which institutions and sovereign states of the world, from the United Nations to the Vatican, are going through will determine the outcome of some critical decision-making in the new world. If this then is the stark truth about what happened in priests-administered Churches in the US, Ireland, Germany and rest of Europe, will the Churches in the Eastern hemisphere be any different from them? Churches in the Asia-Pacific and South Asia have been key strongholds of the Catholic faith, especially the Church in India which has no less than three Cardinals, several archbishops and an assortment of bishops, and believed to be very influential in matters of the State and the Holy See. Luckily, Churches in the other East, South and Middle Asian countries, including Pakistan have been less in the spotlight, and therefore, should be prudent in handling issues facing them with courage, dignity and truth. Allegedly, there is a complex maze of unspeakable issues, from child-abuse, mental-torture, physical-abuse to illegitimacy, and from money matters to alcoholism. These are serious issues that need to be addressed, urgently. While technology will take its course and the truth will surface, if not today, tomorrow, it is our conscience that is being put to test. Last week on March 20, 2010 the Pope apologized for the sinful and criminal acts of the Catholic Church in Ireland. He said to the people, You have suffered grievously and I am truly sorry. I know that nothing can undo the wrong you have endured. Your trust has been betrayed and your dignity has been violated. To the priests, he said, You betrayed the trust that was placed in you by innocent young people and their parents, and you must answer for it before Almighty God and before properly constituted tribunals. I urge you to examine your conscience, take responsibility for the sins you have committed, and humbly express your sorrow. To his brother bishops, he wrote, It cannot be denied that some of you and your predecessors failed, at times grievously, to apply the long-established norms of canon law to the crime of child abuse. Serious mistakes were made in responding to allegations. I
[Goanet] Goa news for March 31, 2010
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Court allows Adani to go to Goa for CBI questioning - Sify tandard.com/india/news/guj-hc-allows-adani-to-leave-ahmedabad-to-appear-before-cbi/89829/onusg=AFQjCNFW7qPxHsx06l2fPT6XBU15m7jrYAGuj HC allows Adani to leave Ahmedabad to appear before CBI http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/court-allows-adani-to-go-to-goa-for-cbi-questioning-news-national-kd4tEcegcbh.htmlusg=AFQjCNGqjideG4Z-x_a3WtQgn6KfvYjhsA *** Trade association alleges scam in Goa's purchase of software - Sify 903-GIBA-hails-scrapping-of-cyberage-scheme/articleshow/5740249.cmsusg=AFQjCNEnW638gUY1pQiiZ9XeedVjRf-0GQGIBA hails scrapping of cyberage scheme http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/Trade-association-alleges-scam-in-Goa-s-purchase-of-software-news-National-kd3t4chdjdg.htmlusg=AFQjCNHe16CEilCIqxVbhKE3xfHUIZbDhg *** Administration flip-flops on raiding Goa nightclub - Sify olice-confused-over-action-against-Clubusg=AFQjCNG4Th0QGizPIfmhYA9hH6r_TdRaqwGoa police confused over action against Club http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/Administration-flip-flops-on-raiding-Goa-nightclub-news-National-kd4x4ciefbe.htmlusg=AFQjCNEBI-yQvdSnhfLRfL2lMMf57T8Agw *** Euro RSCG, Saatchi opt out - Economic Times SN51gAoAHow Mad Men sold us politics http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Advertising/Euro-RSCG-Saatchi-opt-out/articleshow/5744620.cmsusg=AFQjCNEdI3QnILO7058USHFQVi9tHl1jvw *** FESPA Americas to Launch February 2011 Alongside GOA - Quick Printing (press release) nveils-US-exhibition-plans-Miami-Global-Summit/usg=AFQjCNH8kVEHVJwZsdGKZhHsGJhBy6VAVQFespa unveils US exhibition plans at Miami Global Summit http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.quickprinting.com/web/online/Industry-News-and-Trends/FESPA-Americas-to-Launch-February-2011-Alongside-GOA/1$12532usg=AFQjCNFNLGMv7B6x19IIj_gfkDnwtHnrpg *** Goa's serial killer Mahanand Naik acquitted in third murder case - Daily News Analysis -serial-killer-acquitted-in-third-murder-caseusg=AFQjCNG_xYvViLssXrDsG6czy_oYyBBeWQGoa's serial killer acquitted in third murder case http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-s-serial-killer-mahanand-naik-acquitted-in-third-murder-case_1365401usg=AFQjCNH6xH3f3t5RvCQT_BeJ7mwGvSrjZw *** 4 Latin American robbers held for Bangalore jewel heist - Times of India -5-cr-jewel-theft-case-solved--4-foreigners-heldusg=AFQjCNHLvFKT6RAahT2TYhNjKC7z5EB_bARs 1.5 cr jewel theft case solved; 4 foreigners held http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/4-Latin-American-robbers-held-for-Bangalore-jewel-heist/articleshow/5745004.cmsusg=AFQjCNHPCNJTda5ZVHMIMbZFYVPdERpu7w *** New pricing policy brings cheer to Indian iron ore companies - Hindu Business Line ndu Business LineThe stock price of Sesa Goa has shot up 5 per cent in the last two weeks and that of NMDC, which was trading at below its FPO price in the BSE on Monday, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/03/31/stories/2010033153141000.htmusg=AFQjCNFiw-Qqnvsvgg_w1_uI070IDWfFhw *** Padma winners in Goa unite against 'excessive' mining - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Goa's Padma award winners, including cartoonist Mario Miranda and writer Ravindra Kelekar, have got together to urge the Union ministry of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5740702.cmsusg=AFQjCNFLUkiof6DeHwO4qxWCEDuiJT3D1A *** ESG to draft entertainment policy for Goa - digITal Goa Annual general body meeting of Goa entertainment society held here today and decided to formulate Entertainment policy for the State. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=968usg=AFQjCNFXS_T6qyKXGY3OZeKEJ4z8eeIXrw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Symposium on Impressions of Goa: Mainstream, Margins and Media at GU
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Symposium on Impressions of Goa: Mainstream, Margins and Media at GU Goa Union of journalists and Centre for the Study of Social Exclusion and Inclusive Policy, Goa University are jointly organizing a Symposium on “Impressions of Goa: Mainstream, Margins and Media” on Wednesday, 31 March, 2010. The distinguished speakers of the symposium include Shambhu Bhau Bandekar, writer and former deputy speaker, Goa Assembly; Dadu Mandrekar, writer, dalit activist and editor, Prajasttak; Prakash Kamat, special correspondent, the Hindu and president, GUJ; and Frederick Noronha, Independent journalist, writer and co-founder, Bytes for All. The session will be chaired by Prof. AV Afonso, coordinator, CSSEIP and dean, faculty of social sciences, GU. The event will take place at the University Conference Hall, Administrative Building, Goa University from 3 to 5 p.m. The one of the objectives of the symposium is to provide an interface between media, academics and civil society on questions related to social exclusion, democracy and media. This is also an attempt to analyse media discourse and its relation to social processes in Goa. Media with its many versions has become the main site for the production of images, impressions and information of our time. In a democracy, media also becomes an active site of contestation and negotiations between different social, political and economic interests, between the mainstream of the society and the voices from the margins. Media, as an institution of mediation, mirrors social and political reality and at the same time can filter, screen and manage images and reality. The symposium will address the questions such as these: How mainstream and margins can be characterized in the context of Goa? What are the dominant images and stereotypes related to Goa? What are the main cultural frames of imaging Goa including tourism, development, history, otherness and nostalgia? How do media receive, endorse, amend and challenge mainstream images and impressions? What are the alternative channels of articulation of marginal voices and what is their relationship with mainstream in Goa? Ishwar Singh, Prakash Kamat, Lecturer-cum-Assistant Director,President, CSSEIP, Goa University, Goa.Goa Union of Journalists, Goa
[Goanet] Konkan Railway: New train scheduled - Hapa-Tirunelveli-Hapa Express
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- PRESS RELEASE NEW TRAIN ON KONKAN RAILWAY ROUTE FOR ITS ESTEEMED VALUABLE PASSENGERS The inaugural run of Train No.2998/2997 Hapa-Tirunelveli-Hapa Express (Bi-weekly) via Alappuzha will be flagged off by Shri. E. Ahamed, Hon’ble MOSR (A) Ex Tirunelveli on 30/03/2010 (Tuesday) at 13.30 hrs. for its most valuable and esteemed passengers. The details of these train services are as under: Train No. FromTo Departure / Arrival 2998 DN Hapa Tirunelveli Every Friday Saturday 21.15 hrs / 17.30 hrs. on Sunday Monday. 2997 UP Tirunelveli Hapa Every Monday Tuesday 05.45 hrs / 02.00 hrs. on Wednesday Thursday. Note: Train No. 2998 / 2997) Hapa-Tirunelveli-Hapa) will run as weekly train instead of bi-weekly till receipt of Second rake. Halts: The train will halt at Rajkot, Surendra Nagar Jn., Ahmedabad Jn., Vadodara, Ankleshwar Surat, Vapi, Vasai Road, Panvel, Ratnagiri, Madgaon, Karwar, Udupi, Thokur, Mangalore Jn., Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Shornur Jn., Thrisur, Aluwye, Ernakulam Jn., Alappuzha, Kayankulam Jn., Kollam Jn., Thiruvenanthapuram Central and Nagarcoil Town. The train will have 17 coaches. The composition of the train will be Eight Sleeper Coaches, One AC 3-Tier, Six General and Two SLR Coaches. Detailed time table can be viewed on www.konkanrailway.com (B G Ghatge) Sr. Manager Public Relations
[Goanet] Adlean Chalu........
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- G7 in Delhi for summit meet today PANJIM, MARCH 30 The Group of Seven MLAs (non-Congress) who are part of the ruling coalition, today rushed to New Delhi, on the eve of the crucial meeting tomorrow (Wednesday), to impress upon the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) leadership that their demands should be taken to the logical conclusion. http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/G7-in-Delhi-for-summit-meet-today/35318.html http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] INVITATION: 21 fragments: an exhibittion of photographs by Monica Bhasin
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Hello Friends, I would like to invite you to an exhibition of my photographs titled '21 fragments'. The exhibition will be open from 10:00am to 7:30pm at Kala Academy from 4th (Sunday) to 8th (Thursday) April 2010. I look forward to seeing you there along with friends and family. Please forward this email to anyone that you think would be interested. best, Monica Bhasin #9920567060
Re: [Goanet] Just curious
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Dear Mr. Cabral,
What you say is not entirely untrue. But there is some history behind my
signing-off slogan. I do not know whether you have noticed; but I do not use
this slogan in every post. (For instance, it has not appeared in my recent
posts on Rosary and Ladainha or in Just curious.) It is reserved only to
those posts which counter the false propaganda indulged in by self-seekers who
masquerade as protectors and promoters of Romi Konknni. They (and their
cronies) have been dinning the ears of innocent readers with lies and
half-truths solely with the aim of filling their own pockets; and they have
succeeded in this endeavour to a large extent. (You have, no doubt, noticed the
recent post Wake up Mr. Borges. It was his first intervention; therefore I
did not sign off as usual.) But I strive to nail their lies to the best of my
ability. My friend, Fausto da Costa the editor of 'Gulab' and 'The Goan
Review', says I am wasting my time on this because,
according to him, mhojea onnbhovan, sotachen bhov komi promannan zoit zata
(in my experience, Truth seldom wins); to this I counter by saying
Sorvxevttim, Sotachench zoit zatolem. (Ultimately, Truth alone shall
prevail). The same lies and half-truths keep cropping up intermittently again
and again, and I reply with the same evidence; the struggle is not yet over.
Hence the future tense. I am not expressing any 'universal truth'; it is just
my firm belief.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges
--- On Tue, 30/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in wrote:
From: rcab...@bsnl.in rcab...@bsnl.in
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Cc: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, 30 March, 2010, 3:04 PM
Dear Mr. Borges,
The purpose of my asking was to point out to you that your
expression in Konkani is in the future tense whereas the
English one is in the present. Since universal truths like
the sun rises in the East etc etc are expressed in the
present tense the expression Truth alone prevails is also
written thus. If in Konkani also you want to express an
universal truth then your expression should also be in the
present tense irrespective of whether you think in English
or Konkani. Dont you think so?
Mog asum!
Richard Cabral
Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Cabral,
Is it necessary that we must first think in English
and then translate our thoughts into our
mother-tongue? Can we not think directly in the
mother-tongue? For a fact, I did not translate. But
for your sake, I would translate my expression into English
as Truth alone shall prevail. The thought may not
even be original; it might have been the result of what I
had read and assimilated.
Coming to your Konkani expressions, I regret that they
are not happy ones. Why use the exclusivity particle
'-ch' twice in the same sentence? I would re-frame
your sentences as Sot sodanch zoitivont zata and Sotakuch
zoit melltta. Or even Sotak zoit mellttach.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges
--- On Mon, 29/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in
rcab...@bsnl.in
wrote:
From: rcab...@bsnl.in
rcab...@bsnl.in
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Just curious
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
goanet@lists.goanet.org
Cc: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 4:34 PM
Mr. Borges,
Thanks for the compliment. But can you tell me if
by any
cahnce you were trying to translate the English
expression
truth always prevails in which case the
expression in
Konkani would be Sotuch zoitivont sodanch or
Sotakuch
sodanch zoit melltta
Richard Cabral
Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dear Richard,
All three are synonymous just like he won, he
was
victorious, the victory was his, he gained
victory are
also synonymous. I must congratulate you on
your
faultless orthography in Romi Konknni.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges
--- On Fri, 26/3/10, rcab...@bsnl.in
rcab...@bsnl.in
wrote:
From: rcab...@bsnl.in
rcab...@bsnl.in
[Goanet] Letters for Goa
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- *O Heraldo* Tuesday, March 30, 2010 LETTERS *A lesson for all MLAs Orlando da Silva, Carmona* * *The Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco attending the gram sabha of his village andsupporting the members to oppose the mega project in his village is a lesson worth for all the other MLAs in Goa. We all know that most the MLAs are co-partners of the builder lobby to usher in mega projects in their villages in the name of development against the wishes of the people. They are not bothered whether these mega projects will put pressure on the basic infrastructure like water, electricity, garbage, sewerage etc in the village. Their only interest is how many flats/bungalows he will get or how much money the builder will pay for his support. Sarpanchas and panchas are also tamed by distributing loaves of bread to keep silent and issue licenses violating all rules and norms in the name of development and foregoing local dissent. Mickky’s question on how the mega project will benefit locals is most appropriate. Top builders from outside state have managed to grab prime Goan land and in turn the land rates have skyrocketed. The prevailing rate of Rs 7000-8000 per square meter in a village like Carmona is making it impossible for aam aadmi to have a shelter for himself and his family. I wonder when Goans will realise that their purchasing power has diminished to negative due to these mega projects approved by their so called leaders and savers of Goa and Goans in the guise of development. All I can confidently say is that this type of lopsided development has only benefited the politicians and not the aam aadmi. Viva all miseries to the aam aadmi and all riches… to the people in power. http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/letters-editor-11 Industry and Jobs THERE is a big hue and cry asking for more industrial units in Goa in order to promise employment to the sons of the soil. Will the NGOs and the government and the people at large write to each and every industry and verify from them how many Goans have been given jobs? As far as my knowledge goes, 80 per cent of the jobs are held by non-Goans. Will the government please wake up? SONAL PARODKAR, Navelim
Re: [Goanet] Kollywood (Konkani films): A rich history
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- Isidore is here: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/the-writers-life-isidore-dantas/ FN On 30 March 2010 21:21, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Konknni Cholchitram launch interview Author Isidore Dantas speaks to Goa Sudharop's Shilla Almeida regarding the launch of his highly anticipated Konkani filmbook Konknni Cholchitram released in honour of Goa Sudharop's 10 year anniversary -- Frederick Noronha Books from Goa :: http://goa1556.goa-india.org
[Goanet] Mahanand Monis, nhoi Soitan ( Goa Police)
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- MAHA ANAND FOR MAHANAND HERALD REPORTER MAHA ANAND FOR MAHANAND CASE 3: ACQUITTAL HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, MARCH 30 The Nirmal Amolkar murder case involving alleged dupatta killer Mahanand Naik has also ended in an acquittal, taking the tally of murder cases ending in an acquittal involving Mahanand to three so far. In yet another major embarrassment for the Goa Police, the South Goa Sessions Court on Tuesday acquitted Mahanand of the charges of murder and robbery on grounds that the prosecution has failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the body lying in the morgue was that of Nirmal. Given that Mahanand has been acquitted in the third murder case, his legal counsel, Joe Antao, has disclosed plans to send a notice to the director of a Konkani tiatr for virtually crucifying the accused without any evidence against him. While acquitting the accused, Additional Sessions Judge Desmond D’Costa observed that no DNA test was carried out to determine the identity of the dead body. “It cannot be held that it was the body of Nirmal just because her brother Pundalik had identified the body as that of his sister”, he said. Saying that the prosecution had to prove that the death was homicidal and that it was caused by the accused, the judge said the post mortem report conducted by Dr Avinash Poojary had stated there was no evidence of any fresh ante mortem injuries on the dead body. Moreover, the judge referred to the deposition of Dr Poojary stating that opinion as to the exact cause of death cannot be given in view of decompositional changes. “There is absolutely no evidence brought on record by the prosecution to show that the death of the woman was a homicidal death. There is also no direct nor circumstantial evidence to link the accused Mahanand with the death”, the judge observed. Nirmal Amolkar had gone missing from her house on February 2008 and her dead body was found at Verna. A complaint was later filed by her brother Pundalik. The prosecution contended the body was identified by Pundalik on the basis of her clothes, glass bangles and the nail polish on her fingers. The judge, however, said that Pundalik had admitted that the when he saw the dead body, it was fully decomposed and that the face could not be recognized. Referring to Pundalik’s statement hat he has identified the dead body as that of his sister based on the nail polish, the judge said that Pundalik has admitted that he could not remember the colour of the nail polish usually used by the deceased and that he does not remember as to what was the colour of the nail on the nails of the deceased. “This shows that the second basis that he had identified the dead body as that of his sister, i.e. the nail polish on her fingers, also is not acceptable”, the judge added. The judge also did not accept Pundalik’s claim that he has identified the body based on the glass bangles. The prosecution has also failed to prove that any information has been given by the accused while in police custody on July 4, 2009 and that the information has led to the discovery of any facts. “The evidence also does not also help the prosecution in any way to establish the nexus of the accused with the missing of the gold chain of the deceased”, the judge observed. http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto
--- Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php --- JC asks: With specific reference to the Konkani Rosary / Ladainha project, please advise me where I have claimed that I was one of those who originally thought of of the project and was associated with some members of the Toronto group, Will this quote from his post do? Michael and I have been talking about this project for some time. The initial plan was to get it videotaped in Goa ...but it was kind of difficult to organise. So, it appears that the Canadian production will go. Did I misunderstand? Or, does he mean that he should be quoted VERBATIM every time? Sebastian Borges Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Honour killing five sentenced to death (CASTEISM IN ACTION)
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[Goanet] OMG!
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