[Goanet] Vast Property for sale at Canacona, South Goa
Friends this mail comes to you on the request of a friend/single owner of the property Rohit Bhat +919860597151 Get in the warm emrace of nature. Single ownership settlement area total 30 acres (120,000 sq.mtr) with Natural Water and a host of other natural resources for direct sale. 700 meter distance from Galjibag beach. 3km from “Intercontinental -- The Lalit Goa Resort” 7 star Hotel. Directly accessible by NH—17. Check propertyinsouthgoa.com for details. Or Contact Tony Martin tonymartin...@gmail.com 9545318902 Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Canacona: Latest Darling of Drug Dealers
Canacona: Latest Darling of Drug Dealers Tony Martin Once-sleepy Canacona is rapidly waking up to a dangerous reality with disastrous results already showing glimpses of a social disaster. From a sleepy enclave on the south end of Goa known for its sanctuary of delicious oblivion for city-weary souls, Canacona has come a long way to be a safe haven for junkies, hipsters and drug dealers primarily because of its anonymity relatively low cost of living. What is shocking is the spread of drugs and stimulants beyond the coastal scene to school campuses and remote villages like turtle haven Galgibaga. In what is seen by many as only a tip of the proverbial iceberg some students of two schools in Canacona were detained for possession of drugs and condoms in their school bags last May. The recent arrest of a youth from Sadolxem for possession of drugs holds a mirror yet again to the deep malady. Drug barons and cocaine lords are on the loose in coastal Canacona particularly in Palolem which is the new haven for drug zombies and drug peddlers. And powered by the irresistible lure of the fast buck, the locals themselves have been harbouring drug dealers in their houses for the last couple of years. Says Mr. Fernandes (name changed): “The painful truth staring us in the face is that the lure of the fast buck has made people numb. People in my neighbourhood have been harbouring drug dealers for the last couple of years. As one moves out, another moves right in. The landlord is fully aware of what’s going on but is blinded by overpowering greed to stop it.” Canacona has found a big market for cannabis and ecstasy and even heroin and brown sugar. Some drug users besides motorbike pilots, masseurs or barmen in shacks work as peddlers. It is alleged that drugs are a big business even remote hamlets like Galgibaga. According to local sources Lamanis (women rag pickers) in Palolem have now taken to drug peddling. Known for their arrogance and loud mouth, they are seen as the best bet in these matters as they operate with some sort of immunity being women. Drugs are allegedly sold “almost openly” at all-night parties that are the “in-thing” at Palolem. “I am surprised the Canacona cops conveniently get night blind and deaf when it comes to all-night parties at certain places at Palolem while at certain other places they come pouncing and bouncing immediately when the music curfew exceeds by a few minutes,” says a Palolem restaurateur preferring anonymity. This only exposes a malady that is certainly not new. The decay of the social fabric in Palolem and elsewhere has long lost the shock value. Rape of the environment, the concreting of the coast, cheating husbands, cheating wives, corrupt and incompetent police, and an impotent government are working a recipe for disaster. A drug peddler from Palolem was nabbed by the Narcotics Cell of the Customs and Central Excise in Canacona for possessing 1.10 kilogram of ‘hashish’under the Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (NDPS) Act. Three others were also arrested by the central bureau of investigations CBI in 2008 in connection with a drug case. “The beautiful Canacona beaches are today used by the drug mafia to promote the drug trade under the alien shack culture. Shacks are the root cause and main hideouts for such activities. Shacks are taken up using the son of the soil theme, and later operated by foreigners.” says Mr. Barreto. Asked for his comments on the drug scene in coastal Canacona, PI Raju Raut Desai, was curt in his reply, “On drugs I cannot comment. You can take the comments of my superiors in the matter. If you know any drug dealers let me know we will arrest the b**ds.” Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Romancing the BJP?
The statements below should pass off as the joke of the century. And Mehra should be ignored as a joker. Gabe is right PLEASE be warned. The former Bishop dumped Devnagri script education on our kids to please the Nagri lobby. Hope the present Bishop will think at least once before giving an inch to the venomous BJP. Regards TM """wipe out misconceptions about the party amongst the minority community'. The BJP leader said Modi government rule in Gujarat is a unique example how BJP is not indifferent towards minority. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ISSUES BEING DEBATED: In East Africa, despite colonialism, the British afforded the Goan a sliver of a socio-political voice. Read *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Soon to be available in Toronto. Pp 290. Via mail-order from goa1...@gmail.com http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
[Goanet] Canacona Health Care: Tragic Tales
Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 1): The Unchecked Killer Over the years many people in distant Canacona taluka of Goa have helplessly died like abandoned kids being victims of an endemic problem plaguing the place. The high incidence of renal disorders/diseases here has been a matter of great concern for the local people for several decades. Ironically, it is nothing to vex the politicians as well as our health administrators. The matter was raised in the discussions of Rajya Sabha. Answering to queries raised by the Member of Parliament, Mr. Shantaram Naik in the Rajya Sabha, then, Union Minister of State for Health and Family Welfare Panabaka Lakshmi (Anon, 2007) had admitted that the team from ICMR, NIOH (National Institute of Occupational Health, Meghaninagar, Ahmedabad) had visited and carried out environmental cum biological monitoring in February 2005 and had stated that clinically the disease seemed to be similar to Balkan Endemic Nephropathy (BEN), which was an environmentally acquired disease, possibly caused by mycotoxin produced by fungi in mouldy cereals and food products and aromatic compounds in drinking water (NIOH, 2005).” Further conclusions could only be drawn by correlating the clinical picture bio-technical investigation of blood and urine and other pathological investigations and their correlation with environmental factors, the Minister had said. So far no further investigations and no further conclusions. The matter ends but people continue to die by the dozen every month leaving the living victims and their kin to curse their fate and the government under their breath. Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 2): Kankonkars & the CHC The Canacona Community Health Centre (CHC) – the most beautiful health centre built by the government during the Parrikar days -- is a shame and a sham under Digu Kamat. But it is not so much a shame that the CHC has no doctors, no medicines, no medical equipments, no ambulance, no working operation theatre and not even a functional trauma unit to answer common emergencies. What is most shameful is the fact that we the preoccupied people of Canacona have let the CHC be what it is today – at best a first aid centre. (Mind you, Kankonkars were once the lifeline of social activism in the state – remember the 50% bus concession for students) What is most shameful is not that the alarming rise in renal failure cases have never alarmed our aam admi government and the local MLAs over the years and the bureaucrats in general, what is most shameful is the alarming fact that we have never seriously responded to the needs of our own community. Like lambs to the slaughter our sick continue to go to Manipal or the Apollo for something as basic as dialysis. Promises and more promises later we are stilled holed up in stone-age when it comes to public health care. We decided that collectively we can change the CHC to answer the compelling needs of its aam aadmi and so with great expectations and fond hope we called a meeting under the banner of the almost defunct Canacona Health Welfare Committee. Thanks to the persistent efforts of Diago D’Silva the meeting was scheduled with extensive publicity through the local parishes and personally. Ironically less than 50 people including the two Canacona MLAs, Mr Pai Khot and Mr Tawadkar, responded to our call on this life and death matter. The one-point agenda was to decide the future course of action to get the ailing CHC Canacona effectively answer the needs of its people. Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 3): Local MLAs Seated on the dais, Canacona MLA Vijay Pai Khot was busy on his phone openly expressing his lack of interest in a grave matter. Then after restlessly struggling in his chair he spoke a few words and left. (Wonder if he would leave his election-campaign meeting like that.) And by his own words he painted a very bad picture of himself even while trying to colour the Congress black. He unleashed a tirade against the Chief Minister and the Health Minister intermittently reminding the people that “Ami Sotter nam – we are not in power--, yet we have done everything we can. You decide the future course of action and we will be with you.” I thought we elect leaders to lead us. Mr Khot forgot that with the support of the people he could have easily done things his way by the sheer force of compelling numbers. True, the Chief Minister and the Health Minister need to be kicked out at the earliest. But Mr. Khot has obviously missed the obvious fact that he has miserably failed to tap the power of his people to make the ruling rogues be answerable to his people. I would say it is natural to fail in the absence of due effort. But when leaders do their best and still fail it’s time we start looking for an effective leader who gets things done despite all limitations. Poinguinim MLA Mr Ramesh Tawadkar also spoke on the occasion but said nothing. The next follow-u
Re: [Goanet] Mickky?s supporters Threatened Me, Claims Auda
IMHO only those that have something to hide or something to reveal are threatened. Gabe has asked the obvious question: Is Goa being ruled by Goan Mafia? But the question beyond the box is why would Micky supporters threaten Auda? At least I will not accept that without good reason. Regards Tony Martin Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:59:54 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: [Goanet] Mickky?s supporters Threatened Me, Claims Auda Viegas Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The president of Bailancho Ekvott Auda Viegas who has actively pushed for a thorough probe into the Nadia Torrado case as a murder and not suicide, has said that the supporters of former tourism minister had threatened her on phone with harmful consequences. QUESTION: Is Goa being ruled by Goan Mafia? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writinghttp://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoaGalgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Tara and Auda
I wonder what information Tara and Auda had that they shared with the Goa cops on what was almost a 'family' matter. There are so many mahila groups in Goa that perhaps the ratio could work out to something as close as 1:10 Ironically there are so many mahilas in trouble in Goa -- without a care in the world. And yet women's collectives should not be called women fronts for fukot publicity because they feel insulted or because their advocates do not like it. Tony Martin REF: What is OSD Lyndon Monteiro’s role in this case? Advocate Aires Rodrigues has specifically asked the Crime Branch to investigate him. Lydon Monteiro’s role is being investigated. Adv Rodrigues has also appeared before us to give us whatever information he had pertinent to this case, Tara Kerkar and Auda Viegas have also shared whatever information they had with us. They came forward voluntarily. Everyone connected with the victim is being investigated. We have a lot of information which we are sifting through. We are also waiting for Mr Pacheco to co-operate with us. Once he does, we will have a clearer picture. http://www.targetgoa.com/intd-Mickky-s-vanishing-act-0 -- Tony Martin Copy/Content Writinghttp://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoaGalgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Congrats
Congrats Dr Jose some Doctors are exceptionally good as professionals and humna beings. You are one! Congrats again! And God Bless your type. Regards and best wishes Dr. Jose Colaco, ex-Goa Medical College, a physician based in The Bahamas, has been inducted into the American College of Legal Medicine as a Fellow. In addition to his medical qualifications, Dr. Jose has also qualified with the LLB (Honours) and the LLM (Medical Law) degrees from the UK. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writinghttp://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoaGalgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Cheers!
Cheers Freddy! I'll start with the paper work. Will you be the President of Goa Protectors with a mebership fee of Indian Rs 10,000/- Let's start and grow in strength of numbers and capital. Are you ready? I am. Seriously, Let invite interest to fill the other posts. Regards TM Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] A call to all well meaning Goans
Anybody who knows me knows my Gulf trip was a two-year interlude from my regular well-paid job here in Goa -- in fact in my backyard (since 1999 as Teacher Grade 1). Add to it three lovely children and one loving wife. Hence I never treasured any dreams of leaving it for all the lure of the Gulf. If you insist on knowing what I have done for Goa allow me to send you a personal mail. On a public forum I don't want to brag about myself. "Having criticised Overseas Goans, why do you now require us to join your coalition to save Goa? from what?" Gabe you sound like a kid when you ask "why?" and you sound like an illiterate when you ask "from what?" Regards and without malice TM Ref: RESPONSE: As JFK in his famous statement had said, something akin to this ask not what overseas Goans can do for Goa; ask what you Tony Martins have done for Goa!! Is it only blogging on Goanet? Picking on Gulfies, seems you have a problem because your tenure in the Gulf was very brief. Having criticised Overseas Goans, why do you now require us to join your coalition to save Goa? from what? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writinghttp://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoaGalgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] which Church will bury her?: Gabe
Gabe, you are centuries behind. Or at least support your ignorance with cases where bodies of catholic suicide victims lie buried outside the cemetery anywhere in Goa or India for that matter in the last century. So your question which Church will bury her? was totally stupid. That is what made me call you pea-brained. Looks like it hurt you too much. I am soo sorry yaar. Regards Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] A call to all well meaning Goans
"Tarvottis risked their lives on the seas while Gulfies slogged it out with job insecurity." TRUE. But they RIGHTLY did it only for themselves and their families. It's nothing about Goa and Goans. Risk and slogging is part of life for those living in the Gulf or anywhere else across the globe. Even the ants slog so why the big fuss. Speechifying apart, this is getting too far while Goa is on its way to losing its essence, identity, land or whatever is left of it to the greed of our own politicians, administrators and Delhi lords. There are scores of court battles to be fought against ravenous politicians, avaricious businessmen, greedy administrators and big money corporates – but where is the organization to fight them? Poor Seby Rodrigues is fighting a lone battle with the mining Czars. Forget the GBA that is getting more blind and deaf every passing day. Let all Goans who care about Goa form ONE organization – Something like Goa Protectors (if it is not patented to Rudolf Fernandes) -- and join hands and resources with fully functional branches in every Taluka. It’s not just about saving Goa from vicious vested interests it’s also about helping Goans, taking up social issues. There are talented children whose education is uncertain, there are parents -- some of them, may be, parents of these very overseas xapotkars -- waiting for the mercy of death in some aged home, there are children uncertain of their next meal, there are scores of people dying as they are simply unable to afford the cost of medicine, there are some exceptional kids waiting to shine and be the light of the world but right now they have problem keeping the lamp in their own house burning. And all this is in tiny Goa. On a different note if the government cannot give us decent roads, regular power and water supply and meaningful education, it is a matter for action -- for Goans and NRIs jointly under Goa Protectors. The problem is that there are so many overseas people telling us about what is wrong with Goa as if we resident Goans didn't know that. What Goa needs is doers – man of action. Will the well meaning overseas guys and local residents come under the umbrella of one organization, whatever the name, and do something concrete before we are left with nothing but regrets for losing everything we could have easily saved? Regards Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] which Church will bury her?: Gabe
Well Gabe gives the impression that he is a pea-brained mouse when he asks a stupid question "Under the circumstances which Church will bury her?" Tony Martin Copy/Content Writingh ttp://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 16:40:21 +0100 > From: Gabe Menezes > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa minister under cloud after > alleged partner > dies > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 31 May 2010 14:17, Salus Correia > wrote: > > > I am referring to Gabe's comment below. It is > very easy to throw stones on > > others, but we have to remember that a life has been > lost, and no one has > > the right to sit in judgment. And why bring the > Church into the mix? > > There > > should be absolutely no problem for any church to bury > the deceased. Her > > personal life is something that she as an adult has > been responsible for, > > and the same applies to Micky the Minister. > Besides this, casting > > aspersions on the priest from Colva is just uncalled > for. > > > > RESPONSE: Perhaps, I am talking out of hand, perhaps I am > not in tune with > the modern Church's teachings. If I am wrong in my > thoughts, then I am truly > sorry and apologise. I am not sitting in judgement - I have > no voting rights > in Beanaulim - you Banalkars, you do what you want at the > next > hustingsas the saying goes you pays your money and you > take your > pick..Incidentally where did the priest pop in? > > -- > DEV BOREM KORUM > > Gabe Menezes. > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:53:46 +0530 > From: "soter" > To: > Subject: [Goanet] Foreign aunties > Message-ID: > <000901cb00e6$15072920$1901a...@user77948b9580> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Selma wrote: > "As for tarvottis and Gulfkars heralding the moral > degradation of Goa, what > is it these people should have done? Stayed in Goa, > spending long hours at > the local gaddi, then become sarpanches and bleeding people > dry with bribes > and black-mail. Tarvottis and Gulfkars are doing honest > work onboard the > ships and in the Gulf. The sort of work, if those left in > Goa ever did, they > would die of exhaustion within a week. Soon, they would > return to touring > the beach shacks on their bikes, looking for White British > aunties who will > pay for their drinks." > > Comment: > Selma can keep her one-eyed economics lessons to herself. > It just reveals > the level of ignorance. We have not washed firangi and arab > toilets to > develop our economic condition. We have stayed put in our > land and are proud > to have toiled and made a decent living and that too > ethically. Our family > has also served as Sarpanchas and panchas and we can walk > with our head high > in our village even to this day, a recognition I doubt > Selma will get in her > village. > We are not exhausted with our work which Selma may never > ever dream of > experiencing in her life time. What work is more difficult > and strenuous > than agriculture? > Great to know that our white British and U.S. aunties are > available to > roadside romeos to sponsor their drink. This itself speaks > of the level of > the foreign culture and values which our Selma bai is > trying to preach to us > in Goa. > Tarvottis and gulfies have stocked money in our banks to > lend it to migrant > businessmen. By the way lending by banks in Goa is less > than 30%. > Amcho abru-mann ami rakhla bai. Videshi jivitak bhullon > ogddaunk na. > > -Soter > > > > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: 31 May 2010 14:37:42 - > From: "rosario fernandes" > To: > Subject: [Goanet] Tarvotteanchim bondolam > Message-ID: <20100531143742.59307.qm...@f4mail-235-235.rediffmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > In the Margao wholesale market a Goan lady happen to > invite me and my wife to buy and split the king fish > equally. Vendor had quoted Rs.500 and our asking > price was Rs. 400/- Whilst bargaining a young tarvotti with > all the gold flashing on his fingers, wrist and neck > happen to inquire the price with the vendor who quoted him > Rs 600/- Without bargaining this fattened cow happens > to pay 600 and walk away with the fish for cleaning. > Vendor was overjoyed and gave us a sarcastic look. He > happened to get more than what he had > quoted us !!! No wonder one finds fish coming > to Goa from as far as Andhra Pradesh. > > Another instance I had bought a small vase from Bombay for > Rs. 25 only to find the same type in a shop > > at Margao. I could not believe my ears > when the salesgirl quoted me the price for it as 250 > !!! ten times more. I double checked to be told > again Rs. 250 /- > > Many wives of our Non Resident Goans spend > lavishily the hard earne
[Goanet] Some NRGs & NRG Organisations: Are they hypocrites hiding behind colourful facades
Personally speaking, I find Freddy Agnelo Fernandes and Arwin Misquita and lately one Manuel Tavares very irritating with their endless dictates on Goa and Goans. May be, beyond words, they have done many things truly meaningful for the sudarop of Goa and Goans. I would love if they would chose to write something on that count. Some organisations across the seas hold felicitations and programmes/celebrations that are little more than cheap gimmicks for publicity. May be I am wrong but if there is anything that ignorant me needs to know let them let me know. Let them show that they are not some self-seeking hypocrites hiding behind colourful facades. Without malice Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Here goes an overseas man.........
"These cowards are even told by the CM that he can do without their votes." "The Feni drunken sleeping sheepish Goans who are being hoodwinked by everyone and are doing nothing to ensure that what is left of the place we call Goa is preserved." Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 23:17:15 -0400 From: "manuel tavares" To: Subject: [Goanet] "these fg overseas Goans from the cozy comfort Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pandu Lampiao, how very true. The Goichis from Goa have indeed forgotten their identity and have become Goichi Ghanti's. They have no guts and indeed are afraid of the true Ghanti's who seem to have taken over Goa and are indeed the NEW Goichis. They even resent us their true brother Goichi's criticizing us for raising awareness to the fact that the Goan identity and way of life is rapidly degenerating into Gantiism. These cowards are even told by the Chief Minister that he can do without their votes. What else is left? We overseas Goichis are at least trying to motivate or awaken you the Feni drunken sleeping sheepish Goans who are being hoodwinked by everyone and are doing nothing to ensure that what is left of the place we call Goa is preserved. They raise not a voice nor a protest to see their very identity erased. Even the sheep which is led to slaughter vehemently protests. What are you Goichis from Goa Doing??. So M** Z (MF)Goichis from Goa what have you g ot to say and what are you all doing other than reading our posts and criticizing us? Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN
Dear Dr Helekar Your instant message in the Kandhamal context is given below. Objectively speaking, it is out of ANY context in the instant case. Some threads go on endlessly on goanet sometimes. But for a fresh reader your relevant post sounds completely baseless. Regards Tony Martin -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 13:16:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" Subject: Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL Message-ID: <520705.30159...@web110307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why are these researchers and activists ignoring violence against women of other religions? Why this selective religious propaganda? Cheers, Santosh -Period Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN..
The good scientist Dr. Helekar has raised some questions without seeing the need to back them up with definite empirical proof to suggest that 1. it is religious propaganda and 2. it is selective. Forget "these" researchers and activists, why are other researchers and activists ignoring violence against other women if there is any? Being objective is obviouly a prerequisite for a scientific attitude. Regards Tony Martin From: Santosh Helekar Subject: Re: [Goanet] ENDLESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CHRISTIAN WOMEN OF KANDHAMAL Why are these researchers and activists ignoring violence against women of other religions? Why this selective religious propaganda? Cheers, Santosh Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Who is Dean?
"All drawings and designs are within laws of the land and genuine doubters are welcome to check details from my office." Dean Well, who knows you may be an angel. But who are you beyond architect...@mozaic-design.com and you talk about your office. That's funny Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa Galgibaga, Canacona
[Goanet] Late Rev. Fr. Thomas Fernandes: An UNFORGETTABLE Lesson in Responsibility
From all available indications Fr. Thomas Remedios Fernandes was a kind and loveable man. And his successful rescue act was indeed noble. In true Christian spirit he died for others. But let us not get carried away in the flood of emotions that often follows the death of a dear soul. Fr Thomas Fernandes not only saved the lives of the three rash youth but also left us an invaluable lesson in responsibility. As a youth leader Fr Fernandes failed and yet came up with flying colours. Unfortunately at the cost of his own life. Leading a group of 50 odd hot-blooded teenagers is a big responsibility. That such groups are prone to fatal accidents is nothing new, in fact it is a regular thing, particularly on the Goan beaches. And the Galgibaga estuary is a known killer having claimed the lives of three people three yeras back. Not long ago a family of three was also rescued by a brave heart. With precedents like that and against several warnings letting loose youngsters on a killer sea front is a casual attitude that is bound to draw anybody's attention to the call of responsibilty. But all is well that ends well. Fr Fernandes saved two young girls and a boy from certain death. Imagine the three dead. Had the three teenagers died he would not only be a killer villain in the eyes of the parents but would also have been living under the crushing wait of his own guilt never able to forgive himself for the rest of his living years. Fortunately, after failing in his reponsibility to keep a check on them he managed to pull them out of the jaws of death. In death Fr. Fernandes died a hero. He has certainly not died in vain. Beyond the three precious lives he saved, he remains a live example for us living and particularly those leading. Lead with care or live with regrets. Tony Martin Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] If you're on Facebook...
Rico this obviously looks like a publicity stunt. Regards TM Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona
Re: [Goanet] Private Hospitals Personal Interest
re #1: [1] The common man walks in a government hospital and comes out on a stretcher -- dead meat. If you carry the charm and persona of the rich, or a personal recommendation of a powerful minister, the doctors at the GMC/Hospicio will come to you like puppies licking your feet and always looking up. The GMC is equipped to give the best in medicine. “Much good work goes on in that hospital, and we should understand and acknowledge that.” But when a patient needs emergency attendance forget it. This is true and qualifying it with necessarily is mere rhetoric. re #2:When it comes to private hospital's it is another story. What tests are conducted and how many times in a private hospital is a matter of personal interest to the concerned doctors or hospital. It is common knowledge that they are commission agents besides being doctors. A Doctor in a govt hospital will not recommend operation if it can be avoided but the same cannot be certainly said of a visiting doctor ‘operating’ in a private hospital. The ceaserian delivery stats will confirm that. NOBODY expects charity from private hospitals (in Goa or elsewhere) People come to private hospital aware of the cost implications, Hence the high amounts charged need to be justified with transparent services. re #3:The kin of the patient do not get a fair hearing. Dr Colaco you take things for granted. Your assume that all patients are knowledgeable and can directly communicate with the concerned doctor. Here, often the fact is that the patient is helplessly lying in bed while the kin are clueless about what exactly is the problem. The Doctor is certainly expected to properly explain the case to the patient or to a family member attending her particularly when it involves an operation. Just declaring that the patient will die in 6 months or six hours if not operated is not enough the doctor should properly explain the how and why. What do you think Dr Colaco? re #4:Fact is that a hospital is a big business. You say:That is why Governments (unfortunately) feel compelled to run public hospitals. I doubt anything positive can be written about the chaps who run the public hospitals in Goa. I say : That is why The common man walks in a government hospital and comes out on a stretcher -- dead meat. Message: 10 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:12:59 -0400 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Private Hospitals Personal Interest Message-ID: <493963b51003251312g1cf32c91jc780bd00aaf7c...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anthony M Barreto wrote: [1] The common man walks in a government hospital and comes out on a stretcher -- dead meat. [2] When it comes to private hospital's it is another story. [3] The kin of the patient do not get a fair hearing. [4] Fact is that a hospital is a big business. COMMENT: My dear Tonybab, Your post was quite striking in many ways. This is a topic which interests me immensely. So, please allow me to comment on your post. re #1: While I am appalled at the state to which our Goa's public hospitals have degenerated over the past 40 years - despite the amount of funds Goa has generated during this time span and continues to generate, this statement of your isn't necessarily true. It has been my personal belief that civil servants who have no idea of Goa should never be at the helm of institutions in Goa until they have received a firm understanding of Goa and its needs (usually takes 10-15 years of domicile). If you put such folks in charge . the primary interest will be mercenary ...and the institution will degenerate because of a lack of true interest. Please read the basic premise of Rajan Parrikar's posts on Goa. needless to say, I agree with him. Even so, much good work goes on in that hospital, and we should understand and acknowledge that. One rarely hears about the cases which the public hospitals save. re #2: It is my understanding that private hospitals (in Goa) are primarily there NOT for charitable purposes. During the Portuguese era, the nuns and the lottery helped run some of the private hospitals. They were apparently spotlessly clean and they reportedly provided the best level of care that was known then and which could be provided at the time. That was then. In the late 1960s-1970s ...there was a lot of politics (at the time of Deans Vengsarkar, Abraham and the surgeon Dean who followed - based at GMC) to take over those hospitals; and take over, they did. It is impossible now, for private hospitals to run at a high level unless they take short-cuts or they charge high amounts. re #3: Not very clear what you mean by that statement. Are you suggesting that doctors should 'talk' to relatives of an adult patient - without being specifically advised to do so by the adult patient? re #4: That it is. That is why Gov
[Goanet] wake up Mr Borges
Mr Borges I don't know you but i read your romi konkni bit and you give me the impression that you coukd be a good cow for some pundaliks and udays to milk freely to their advantage. Whatever happened to the Gulf money that more than sustained the GPA. Why were/are there no awards or grants for romi konkani writers for all these years. Do you know one Reginald Fernandes? Injustive personified. Check who are affected by the shift in medium of instruction. All I am asking is equal opportunity at least to Goans in Goa. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Private Hospitals Personal Interest
The common man walks in a government hospital and comes out on a stretcher -- dead meat. When it comes to private hospital's it is another story. You can be very sure that in private hospitals in the state particularly in Panjim Personal Interest takes the cake. Ironically the personal interest is not in the patient. It is entirely about the hospital and the doctors visiting the hospital. Manipal Hospital on the Donapaula plateau is a case in point. The kin of the patient do not get a fair hearing. My mother-in-law's NHL case was properly explained only after a lot of stubborn insistence. What are the implications of avoiding operation. Death in six months. True, Doctor's have to be objective and patients and their kin have to face the reality. But doesn't the human touch precede the healing touch. Fact is that a hospital is a big business. Any way operation done. Chemo done. Time for discharge. What we get is just a bill informing us the consolidated amount. We ask for detailed proper bills of medicines, tests, operation charges, anaesthetist, hospital charges, nursing charges etc. We can't give you that. The women folk shell out the money, take the patient and the discharge summary and walk away. Some days later I am told the printer is down for the last one month. When will these money minting machines be ever answerable to anybody. Regards Tony Martin Writer/Author,Galgibaga, Canacona Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Amghe Inas ani Amghe Gabru
Amghe Inas ani Amghe Gabru Poor South Korean is at the GMC fighting to live for standing up to his rightful due while one inas is trying to flaunt his UK connection and Gabru is trying to make an exhibition of his knowledge and his travel escapades. Guys, it is OK if you want yourself to be heard but at least talk some sense. Talk about the ethics of the act, talk about the law as ass in Goa. Or at least say some sophisticated nonsense that is beyond the comprehension of all goanetters. Regards Tony Martin Message: 5 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:47:40 -0800 (PST) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] S. Korean asks for change, gets thrashed Message-ID: <145059.79330...@web52302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This system is called "barter", the oldest form of exchange of goods for services/goods. IIRC, this system of giving back sweets and chocolates in lieu of change arose a couple of decades ago when there was shortage of coins, the same being apparently melted down by unscrupulous people as their melted value was a lot more than the value it represented.? The system is very much in vogue with the smaller shops in Delhi (besides Goa), as I experienced it a couple of years ago whilst paying a visit to the Indian capital. Gabriel. - Original Message > From: ignatius fernandes > To: "goanet@lists.goanet.org" > Sent: Thu, 11 February, 2010 6:27:22 AM > Subject: [Goanet] S. Korean asks for change, gets thrashed > > > when did this system come into being of giving chocolates > instead of change.Does any other country have this tradition? > I too was given chocolates in lieu of change in a restaurant > I did not know how o react to this it is not a done thing > in U.K. so I gave it to the waiter who served us.Later on my > resident Goan friend said they give the chocolate back to the > proprietor who gives them the money owed to the costumer. > What a silly system get rid of it immediately. > Ignatius Fernandes. Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Sanatan: Creating terror and terrorists in amchem Goem.
Dear Barve Could you explain what you mean: "These youth who are close to Sanatan ideology are vulnerable in that they may become prey to being recruited by real terrorists, as a reaction against the hatred they are facing. Are we sowing the seeds of terrorism in these minds?" "My plea to society is that an entire sect should not be condemned without any proof and hysteria should not be fanned against them" When the sauntha premises was searched some circuits and other bomb making material was found. Intelligence agencies have already indicted them. What more proof are you talking about? My plea: Don't try to justify the criminal acts of a criminal organisation that is creating terrorists out of our innocent youth. You not only sound unconvincing but also stupid. :> People who try, even unwittingly, to justify the acts of those out to create terror and terrorists will be equally responsible for the blood chilling tragedies we are likely to witness -- if lucky -- in the days ahead. Or we may ourself be among those who end up as roast meat. Regards and good wishes for good sense. Tony Martin Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:06:26 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Are we creating terrorists? Message-ID: <6748f4990910241206kfcf0533nfe156c20bdbbd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2009/10/24 SHRIKANT BARVE > > Are we creating terrorists? > > .. > These youth who are close to ideology are vulnerable in that they > may become prey to being recruited by real terrorists, as a reaction against > the hatred they are facing. Are we sowing the seeds of terrorism in these > minds? My plea to society is that an entire sect should not be condemned > without any proof and hysteria should not be fanned against them, just > because some politicians may want to settle scores with their opponents. > > Shrikant Vinayak Barve Tony Martin Copy/Content Writing Galgibaga, Canacona Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] ...smell the coffee
So India, "wake up and smell the coffee'!! (borrowing the phrase from and credit to Margaret Mascarenhas.) Nascy Caldeira Melbourne, Down Under. Dear Nascy Your credit is misplaced. 'Wake Up and Smell the Coffee' was the fifth album by 'The Cranberries'. 'wake up and smell the coffee' is an idiom which means "to pay attention and do something about a situation" 'wake up and smell the coffee' was a col. by MM appearing in the GT. Tony Martin Yahoo! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] The BJP/Shiv Sena/MNS hate-venom fails to take effect in Maharashtra
The self-proclaimed patriots of Maharashtra have hit the dust in Maharashtra. The electorate has taught them a lesson they are very unlikely to learn. Those who know to spew venom know little else and do just that -- spew venom and kill. The faster the parasites learn their lesson the better it is for Mother India and her children. Chi chi so much waste of blood. Well not every place is Gujarat -- or Orissa. Cheers to the discerning Maharashtra electorate. Regards Tony Martin From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Shivaji looted & burned villages for 3 days killing men, women & children
The Maratha Incursions (1664-1741): Towards the end of 1664 Shivaji Bhonslé captured Kudal, Pernem and Bicholim from the Adil Shah. In 1666 he also besieged Ponda from the Adil Shah. In 1667 Shivaji attacked Bardez. He looted and burnt some villages for three days in succession. Over 2000 men, women and children were taken prisoners and some were killed. Historians differ on the causes of Shivaji’s attack on Bardez. Some historians feel that he disapproved of the policies of religious persecution prevailing in Goa. The other view is that Shivaji attacked Bardez because the Desais from Kudal, Pernem and Bicholim had taken shelter in Bardez from where they continued their hostilities against Shivaji. However many historians believe that it was his economic need that compelled him to attack Bardez. By looting Bardez, as he had looted Soorat, he obtained some wealth. In 1680 just as he was preparing to attack Goa (Tiswadi), Shivaji died. In 1683 the Portuguese attacked the Maratha Fort at Ponda. But Sambhaji not only drove the Portuguese out of Ponda but also captured Bardez and Salcete talukas and kept Goa city under Seige. Just when it seemed likely that the Portuguese might surrender to the Marathas, the advance of the Mughals in Konkan diverted Sambhaji. Had the Portuguese surrendered to the Marathas then, today Goa would have had a different story to tell. Later in March 1689 Sambhaji was brutally murdered by the Mughals. The second attack in 1737 was led by King Shahu, grandson of Shivaji and this ended in a truce. The treaty of May 1739 gave control of Portugal's northern Indian provinces including Bassein to the Marathas in return for the withdrawal of Maratha forces from Goa. In 1741, the Marathas invaded Bardez and Salcete and threatened the city of Goa itself. However, a new viceroy, the Marquis of Lourical arrived with substantial reinforcements and defeated the Marathas in Bardez. --- On Sun, 10/18/09, Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: > > This is indeed a most strange revisioning of history.? > History says Shivaji > was the founder of what became the Maratha Confederacy, > which ruled most of -- Shivaji was a brigand, a hateful, hated brigand, who pillaged and plundered. That he is claimed today by the Shiv Sena, itself should tell us something. Of course they are welcome to their heroes but they are not our heroes and we as Goans should have nothing to do with the culture of hate. best, selma Connect more, do more and share more with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn more. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Girl 'eating herself to death' This also is in our undernourished India
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible your reply is Greek to my simple comprehension. :> >>Girl 'eating herself to death' This also is in our undernourished India >>(???) --- On Mon, 12/10/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > From: SHRIKANT BARVE > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Girl 'eating herself to death' This also is in our > undernourished India > To: "goanet" , goa...@goanet.org > Cc: "Anthony M Barreto" > Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 7:41 AM > Anthony, > > I also can understand what is undernourished and what is > sick. > > I have seen the fact, visit and see the fact. > > Also see the fact of not utilizing good Conacona Hospital > even at the time of distress. (Not using the best facilities > even at the worst condition) > > Shrikant Vinayak Barve > Convener: We Love Ayurved > 9403175973 > > > --- On Sun, 11/10/09, Anthony M Barreto > wrote: > > > From: Anthony M Barreto > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Girl 'eating herself to death' > This also is in our undernourished India > > To: shri8...@yahoo.com, > goa...@goanet.org > > Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 11:21 PM > > Barve, I honestly don't get what you > > want to suggest by connecting a sick child to > undernourished > > India. > > Tony martin > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about > > with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. > > http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! > Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php > Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
[Goanet] Canacona Floods & The Art of Farting!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible The unprecedented Canacona flood is something many Kankonkars are very likely to remember like a bad nightmare for the rest of their life. Hence I do not mean to negate the intensity of the disaster for those who were left without a roof over their head or were seriously affected in a number of other ways. Still the truth was somewhat like farting. Post flood many actually got diarrhea but others were only farting. Some people farted silently without making an exhibition of their turmoil within. Others farted openly making no secret of their troubles so that everyone that matters should notice. There were still others who not only farted shamelessly but held a mike to their arse to amplify it for better effect. The worst culprits are those who faked farting and did it so loudly that the Canacona Executive Magistrate (Mamlatdar) was too much of a fart to suspect anything. The response of the politicians and other opportunists to the disaster was inconceivable, nauseating, disgusting and at the same time amusing. One guy with his house on the Galgibaga coast who had sold his canoe a year back filed a claim for compensation signed by two witnesses vouching for the ‘loss’. One Prabhudesai, who managed to get Rs. 12000/-, was the first among scores of others to get compensation merely because the rain water kissed the steps of their business establishment or house. Another guy EB claimed he lost 400 coconuts. How did the coconuts wash away when the gate of his compound was securely closed? This is the obvious question the two-penny govt. officials did not ask him. A lady who fell at Chaudi while getting off a bus was reported by a local English daily as the victim of the flood. There were numerous claims of vehicle damage before the panchayat and the mamlatdar office. Shouldn’t they be knocking the doors of the MV insurance co. or may be the idea is to have it both ways. Nothing has changed for the scores of houses that were left flat in the wake of the flood but a certain former politician is taking up a bar restoration work on war-footing. Shame! Shame! Many stinking-rich families availed packets of 2kg rice, quarter kg daal, quarter kg sugar, 3 potatoes 3 onions and a bar each of bath soap and washing soap. I wish they were given a soap to scrub their unfeeling souls. Regards Tony martin Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
Re: [Goanet] Girl 'eating herself to death' This also is in our undernourished India
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Barve, I honestly don't get what you want to suggest by connecting a sick child to undernourished India. Tony martin Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
[Goanet] Raj Thackeray's unchecked dadagiri is his latest slap on the face of (a joke called) India and a kick on the Indian judicial system
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible Date: 5 Oct 2009 05:23:48 - From: "Bonefacio Lopes" To: Subject: [Goanet] Who rules Bombay-Mumbai?? Message-ID: <20091005052348.58629.qm...@f5mail-236-217.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ha Ha Ha , the recent tamasha by Raj Thackrey and Karan Johar is very strange and funny. Who rules Bombay , do we have a democratically elected Govt in Bombay, or the Govt. runs with the help of goons and muscle power of Raj. NDTV which claims to be a very constructive media source , instead of creating an awareness of what Raj did was wrong , on the contrary were trying to glorify him and his actions , most of the damage in the world and minds of people is created by the negative hype from media houses be it paper or T.V. channels. Do we have a law in India whereby an individual like Raj can influence a citizen to change his acts or words, if Raj had a problem why couldn't he take the legal stand ?? Indian Citizens watch out??? Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] The Ultimate Indian Love Machine
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible "Is the ultimate Indian love machine concealed by a lungi or a mundu, a veshti or a humble kashti?" Cecil Often the ultimate love machines are not concealed at all. Check the horses and the donkeys of India. On a serious note, it is commonly believed that Goans are the least endowed Indians as far as the inches of the love machine goes. All, including the deadlier of the species, are welcome to comment. TM Now, send attachments up to 25MB with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/photos
[Goanet] political opportunism of the Congress leaders
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible I was never a big fan of NDTV nor am I now. But it looks like Arvind is trying to crucify an NDTV reporter for a forgettable slip. A number of times in the past I felt very strongly about NDTV reporting. But that was because I thought the reports were not objective. Many on many occasions clearly said so. Never mind I was not one of them. If anything all Goans should register their protest on the way the govt's self-aggrandising and questionable disbursement of aid to the genuine victims of the recent Canacona floods. The political opportunism of some Congress leaders and the CMs indecision is deplorable in this testing times. Goan solidarity is the need of the hour but let us not waste it on trifles. Tony Martin Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:17:48 -0400 From: "Arvind Tengse" To: "Goanet" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa news for October 7, 2009 Message-ID: All Goans should register their protest with the NDTV as thier reporter ( whomsoever it may be) does not know that Kudal is in Maharashtra and the Goa - Karnataka border. Arvind Tengse Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
[Goanet] Galgibaga floods!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Planning to get married in Goa? www.weddingsetcgoa.com Making your 'dream wedding' possible There are a few factors that aggravated the Galgibaga floods. 1. There should have been pillars in the river where they managed with easy embankments for the access road to the Galgibaga Bridge on the proposed NH 17. 2. Before that the Konkan Railway... embankments. 3. Add to it reclamation of the Galgibaga River by people in their lust for some more sq meters of space. it is fair that water has to find its way. Many of the claims of loss are as good as the rubbish that came with the flood. Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
Re: [Goanet] Khot's should decide
Bharve this is a mindset ask Raj Thackeray But mindset or otherwise (Talgao, Kalapur, Mershi where are they?) they are not there is for the better. Look. Right now Mumbai is so much trouble for poor Karan Johar. The characters in his movie are not free to say Bombay. Does that come under freedom of expression? I would be glad to hear a word from the signatories of the recent petition on this. How true you are Barve "we never got a real freedom." Say Bombay, say Valentine's Day -- a celebration of love, and Raj and his cronies go on rampage with the least regard for the law of the land. So much for freedom and free India? What say Barve? Regards Tony Martin --- On Mon, 5/10/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: From: SHRIKANT BARVE Subject: Khot's should decide To: goa...@goanet.org, "goanet" Cc: tonymarti...@yahoo.com, alfredtava...@hotmail.com Date: Monday, 5 October, 2009, 9:06 AM There are mūrdhanya (Retroflex) ट ṭa dantya (Dental) त ta in devnagiri Scrip which you as goan should be aware. Khotigao makes it signify as "land of lies". This is Mindeset Even my own village name was talgao every one in school were pronouncing and writing it as talgao, ...but now it is taleigao Similar case of Kalapur, Mershi where are they? We never got a real freedom. == The Goa govt officially uses Cotigao in all matters including website. The vernacular writers when they mention it in English writing generally spell it as Khotigao. I personally find Khotigao a bit twisted sort of and somehow find it difficult to identify the word with the Cotigao we have known. Regards Tony Martin Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:15:31 +0200 From: Alfred de Tavares To: GOANET Lists , Goa Net Organization Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cloud Burst at Khotigao, Canacona Goa Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I find the Portuguese spelling...pronouncing of the village as Cotigao...beautiful...elegant... Khotigao makes it signify as "land of lies". Pls comment Tony Martin... Cheers, Alfred... Shrikant Vinayak Barve Convener: We Love Ayurved 9403175973 Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Cotigao sounds our own.
The Goa govt officially uses Cotigao in all matters including website. The vernacular writers when they mention it in English writing generally spell it as Khotigao. I personally find Khotigao a bit twisted sort of and somehow find it difficult to identify the word with the Cotigao we have known. Regards Tony Martin Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:15:31 +0200 From: Alfred de Tavares To: GOANET Lists , Goa Net Organization Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cloud Burst at Khotigao, Canacona Goa Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I find the Portuguese spelling...pronouncing of the village as Cotigao...beautiful...elegant... Khotigao makes it signify as "land of lies". Pls comment Tony Martin... Cheers, Alfred... Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] From madman to madmen.....
Guys Girls ladies and Gentlemen On the birthday of an incredible man who walked our land, let me echo J Nehru;s words to a radio station announcing the Mahatma's death: 'A madman has put an end to his life' Well, from the time the madman took three shots at peace up to now nothing has changed for India. Only, one a in 'madman' has changed to e. And the madmen have killed 100s of innocent Indians in Gujarat, Orissa and elsewhere. But is any one counting? The only counting that matters in Gandhi's (PBUH) India today is votes. Everyone and everything else can conveniently go to hell with the devil. In the meanwhile all we can do is make a fresh committment to peace and goodness and say a small prayer for our dear life and dear ones. Tony Martin Now, send attachments up to 25MB with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/photos
[Goanet] What tickles Natekar!
INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION: Alternative Publishing - Is it viable to traditional publishing? WHERE: Art Lounge - Sunaparanta, Near Lar de Estudantes, Altinho, Panaji WHEN: September 30, 2009 - 5:30pm http://www.facebook.com/n/?event.php&eid=146588805806&mid=12a68daG1df3c3d3G2ac936fG7 Vinay Natekar's delight on the acquittal of BJP MLA Manoj Pradhan is outright unresonable and stupid to say the least. First "Facing five cases of murder and six of arson." Perhaps this fact minus one is fascinating for Natekar. Or perhaps Natekar sees it as some sort of distinguished service to the nation. (Pradhan was arrested in October last year and sent to jail. He, however, won the last assembly election from G Udaygiri segment in Kandhamal from jail. He was released from jail for 15 days in July this year to enable him to take oath as member of the Orissa assembly.) Perhaps time spent in prison and the murder and arson cases look charming on the CV of an elected representative of the people!! At least for people like Natekar. Second With the loopholes in our antiquated judicial system, winning a case is more often than not about the effectiveness of a lawyer rather than a matter of justice. The best lawyers can get the worst cases in the favour purely on their personal merit rather than the facts of the case. Manoj Pradhan was acquitted for lack of evidence. Who would chose to risk the life of his/her family but giving evidence against somebody who already carries a reputation for five murders? Given the fact that people generally love to have a trouble-free life. At least those trouble and trouble-makers you can cjose to keep at a distance by playing blind and mute. Tony Martin Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinay Natekar To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] BJP MLA acquitted of murder in Kandhamal riots Message-ID: <933044.6365...@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Here is? one? latest news? about Orrissa?: BJP MLA? Manoj Pradhan is aquitted??of the five cases against him during last year?s communal violence in Orissa?s Kandhamal district. Marshall Mendonca would never have posted such news because he only copy and pastes news??which?only shows ?BJP in bad light. This news is reported on many newspaper sites but TOI has failed to report it so far. May be this news paper?shares same ideologies as Marshall. Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
Re: [Goanet] Petition: Final Draft with names of signatories
Hi At the outset I wish to express my unconditional support to all those supporting the cause of Freedom of Expression in all its varied forms. Still I would like to say a few things that many may argue go against my primary assertion -- unconditional support. Aniruddha Sen Gupta and Kalidas Sawkar are absolutely right on their respective views in my opinion. I am sure I have an opinion for the cause of Freedom of Expression which could be a part of the petition. What I am not sure is whether I can count myself as a distinguished personality. Because Sandeep suggests that "opinions from distinguished personalities" can be attached to the said Petition. I would also love to be a member of the delegation but I feel it is the privilege of only those living in and around Panjim. I don't understand why Sandeep should limit something that needs extensive support from every nook and corner of Goa and beyond. I particularly understand freedom of expression because I have been on the receiving end of the same on various occasions as a humble proof reader with GT. First a women's collective came for my throat and later I got life-threatening calls and even direct threats from their goons following a full page write up (GT Sept 24, 1996) on the environment-devastating Penguin Alcohol in Canacona. Penguin Alcohol later even filed a case against GT and editor for the same. GT (truth) won. What I also understand is the fact that there are three types of people -- 1. those out to make money while it is night. 2. those out to get fame and be left alone (IMHO) like Dr Rebello and a few others. 3. those who prefer to be in the limelight forever even if it is very taxing. The simple truth of the matter (IMNSHO) is that for a tiny state like Goa one well meaning NGO can take care of all the ailments that plague Goa and its people. Without prejudice to Sandeep and Co, I wish us all the success on this count and may we remain united to fight many battles to savour many more victories. Tony Martin --- On Sat, 26/9/09, Sandeep Heble wrote: From: Sandeep Heble Subject: Re: Petition: Final Draft with names of signatories Date: Saturday, 26 September, 2009, 1:33 PM Thanks everybody, We will hand over the Petition to the CM with the additional names sometime during next week. Writer Aniruddha Sen Gupta suggested that we go to the CM with a delegation and take some kind of a firm assurance from him supporting the cause of Freedom of Expression. Kalidas Sawkar also suggested that we need to do something beyond the regular letters, lest the whole movement not fizzle out and we be back to square one. I suggest that along with the Petition, we can compile views and opinions from distinguished personalities and Legal positions with Court Judgments, which we can attach to the said Petition. I shall try to work along these lines in the next couple of days. Those living in an around Panjim could be a part of the delegation. Necessary Press notes can be issued thereafter. regards Sandeep
[Goanet] Goan identity, ghatis and e-altruists!!!
Well by now I have read so many posts from Arwin Mesquita on the goan identity and ghantis that the words ghati and identity have become synonymous for me with Arwin Mesquita ironically writing from Abhu Dhabi. I concede that Goa needs a saviour to save it from the ills that plague it. Rhetoric is ok in literature but it is certainly not one of the remedies for what ails Goa. I think what is required is well directed and concerted action on the home front -- right here on Kurukshetr. Here, in Canacona, I know so many retired guys from the Gulf, Europe, the Americas, Australia, Africa and elsewhere who suddenly feel that it is they who know how to save the village youth, the village, and Goa from what they see as doomsday. And these prophets of doomsday have one common thing to offer to us humble souls here at home – rhetoric. May be Arwin is a rare genuine guy. May there is something concrete perhaps he has done for the Goa cause which stupid me is unaware of, other than set up another organization the likes of which are far too many to keep count. The efficacy and shallowness of the self-styled and self-proclaimed non resident agents/organizations of social change is too well known to require any formal indictment. There are other NRI based organizations that only believe in celebrating Goa. Go south, go north, go east, go west, poverty stares us in the face right here in Goa. It obviously stares at our NRIs too when they come for a holiday. There are so many people, including kids, fighting for survival, fighting for a square meal, fighting to keep the monsoon waters out of their thatched roofs. But does that worry them. Unlikely. The internet is the best and only medium for electronic-altruists. Let the NRIs pool their power and resources to rebuild Goa – build orphanages, run aged homes for the truly destitute elders, provide self-contained educational institutions for the less fortunate children, promote development in villages across Goa, start educational initiatives. It could truly be a legendary tale for posterity. Tony Martin Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now! http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Natekar & Sonia's aam aadmi act
We are in a democracy where people, including Vinay Natekar (not far from natak'kar :>), are free to express their views freely. And he did just that only to expose the venom in his shallow mind. I think Natekar could not digest the publicity and good will Sonia generated with her aam aadmi act. But instead of trying to belittle her with his warped logic he would have done better to tell other Congress wallas, and why not even the saffron brigade, to follow her example and travel 'economy' whereever the destination. After all, good leaders lead by example. Of course the others who lead by coersion, unchecked destruction and even inhuman mass murders may not fancy Sonia's way. All said, I would argue that it is better for a party and its leaders to try to survive on the premise that the people are compliant and bottomless idiots rather than to survive like parasites on the blood of its own people. Without presumimg any answers let me ask a straight question for a straight answer from all rational people. How did the BJP power itself to election victories? I will take the liberty to give my answer first. It is the blood of fellow Indians that has been successfully fuelling the BJP campaign for power all along. And successfully precisely because most of the people of India are largely compliant and bottomless idiots. Tony Martin Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinay Natekar To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Sonia's Austerity drama Soni Sonia travels economy class to Mumbai. This was a flashing news on all 24X7 news channels for entire ?day yesterday. ?Why all this Austerity drama Madame Sonia? We have more bigger? pressing issues today in the country like inflation, unemployment, terrorism etc ?than this nautanky. These Kaangress leaders? are displaying only their stupidity by showing their contempt for the People of India whom they think ?are mere compliant and bottomless idiots. Even if Sonia traveled economy class she was ?guarded by dozens of NSG security men ?and ?many ?chamchas and boot lickers ?hanging around ?her in the flight? and this all on Govt expenses.? Why is she not showing austerity? at ?extravagance of Z security given to her daughter Priyanka? and son-in-law ?Vadra? which ?costs ?crores of rupees to exchequer ?? The austerity ?will be? if she? could ?bring ?her Italian mafia friend ?Quattorocchi? along with ?the money he and her husband Rajiv ?took ?in Bofors Kick-backs. Travelling in economy class and train are just not enough ?to prove this dynastical family?s austerity. Next was Yuvraj Rahul?s turn to display austerity. ?He flew in private? jet to Chennai and then travelled to Jalandhar in train .? What a tamasha !!! Next episode of this drama ?will be Priyanka ?who will travel in a? bus or ?in Auto Rickshow. Quote : ?What is more important is real work on the ground to address the suffering of the common man. Tokenism bereft of real work on ground becomes patent hypocrisy and laughing stuff,? ?Ravi Shankar Prasad ? BJP Leader. Try the new Yahoo! India Homepage. Click here. http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
[Goanet] Selma's misplaced logic!
Selma Dear I like you for your meaningful posts on goanet. But your response to JC on the Portuguese passport issue loses your well-known rational balance. Let me point out that there is nothing infallible in JC's logic. It's your warped comprehension in THIS matter. First let me concede that there are non-Portuguese-Goans in the UK -- may be thousands of them. How and when they got htere is beside the point. And it is true that the English don't care how you got to the UK. It is also true that being a Goan does not matter to anyone other than Goans. But to support your illogical argument you put togehter Goa and East Africa which was also a foremr colony of the Portuguese. The simple fact is that flying from the plains of say Tamil Nadu is certainly not as easy as flying to the UK with the advantage of a Portuguese passport be it from Goa or fron East Africa. Your choice of the word 'saunter' is good as long as it is limited to the people with Portuguse pasports from the former colonies of the Portuguese. Armed with a portuguese passport, I am sure an East African or a Goan can saunter into the UK but I doubt if you can use the same word when it comes to flying to the UK from say any part of Pakistan if not Tamil Nadu. Regards Tony Martin Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Carvalho Subject: Re: [Goanet] Automatic job with Portuguese passport > Possessing Portuguese Nationality has certainly helped Goan > doctors in > the UK. They have had a a better chance than > non-Portuguese-Goans with > similar skills - for jobs? in the UK. RESPONSE: Sometimes I find it hard to follow JC's infallible logic. How has the Portuguese Nationality help Goan doctors in the UK? And how are they any different than non-Portuguese-Goans in the UK? The English don't care how you got to the UK, whether you flew in from the plains of East Africa or sauntered in with a Portuguese passport, some 40 years after liberation. Please get over the belief that being Goan matters to anyone other than Goans. Dream of becoming a dancing sensation? Find a dance guru on Yahoo! India Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Letter to Mr Jairam Ramesh, Union Minister for Environment
Let me clarify that my post on the above cited subject was entirely a public interest post and my house i.e. my ancestral house or part thereof built in 1982 is obviously not served with any demolition notice. Let me also point out that I could lead Union Minister Jairam Ramesh by the ear and show him with solid and irrefutable reasons why certain houses and certain land is illegal (and yet they have not got the demolition order) and certain houses post 1991 need to be protected despite the fact that they figure in the demolition list. Mr Jairam Ramesh who was in Talpona, Canacona this afternoon, after making the locals wait endlessly, was a bundle of contradiction. He assured the fishermen and toddy tappers that they are absolutely safe. But almost in the same breath he said if you have some sort of paper/documentation to confirm your house or structure is pre-1991 than you have nothing to worry. I wonder, do we need a Jairam Ramesh to tell us we are safe if our house or structure is pre-1991 CRZ notification. Further, Mr Ramesh said he would love to hear the women talk. And Mr Digamber Kamat insisted they talk in Konkani. Mr Ramesh obviously wanted to draw the wind out of any sort of high-pitched protest from the men-folk if any and Mr Digamber wanted to make sure Mr Ramesh will not understand anything that he would not like to hear and so make sure he can fill his ears with what he pleases. Tony martin See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Letter to Mr Jairam Ramesh, Union Minister for Environment and Forest(MoEF)
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary CRZ a windfall for sarpanchas and secretaries Hon. Minister Jairam Ramesh Union Ministry of Environment and Forest(MoEF) Sub.: Saves Our Houses! Sir Faced with the dreadful threat of losing our homes, life and livelihood, we the villagers of Galgibaga, Mashem and Talpona in Canacona taluka wish to submit our case for your compassionate consideration and review. On the demolition notices capriciously sent to us by our panchayats we wish to submit that: The recent High Court directive for demolition of illegal structures in the No Development Zone (0-200) from High Tide Line (HTL) built post CRZ notification of 1991 came as a windfall to the reigning sapanchas and secretaries of Coastal Village Panchayats. The Coastal Village Panchayats (CVP) of Poinguinim and Loliem subjectively and conveniently drew up a demolition list and sent demolition notices to the people after the High Court threatened to take action against sarpanchas and secretaries for non-compliance of its orders for demolition of illegal structures in the No Development Zone (0-200) from High Tide Line (HTL) built post CRZ notification of 1991. As per the Court order, Coastal Village Panchayats were required to act against illegal structures in NDZ (0-200) from the HTL after giving individual hearing to the affected party. But contrary to the Court directive, demolition notices were issued subjectively just to show compliance of the Court order without giving due representation to the affected people and stakeholders including coastal community members including fishermen. The CVPs obviously took the Court order seriously only after they came under fire for non-compliance of the Court orders and in most cases issued show cause notices against all structures in NDZs irrespective of whether they were built prior to 1991 or post CRZ notification. In most cases Show Cause orders were issued in too crude a manner, without mentioning correct survey number, and sub-division number of the suit property. The demolition list of 40 structures is highly subjective, unfair, politically-motivated and whimsical. While 10 residential houses have been served demolition orders, the others are Stores - 12; Distilleries – 4; Room – 3; Bars – 2; Shop – 2; Garage – 2; Kitchen - 1; Shed – 1; W.C. – 1; Cow shed – 1; Hut – 1. A poor family’s renovated traditional house with two adjacent wings for two brothers and their occupational space, even where it is their only means of livelihood, comes under the demolition threat either due to lack of political clout or lack of money power leaving them totally at the mercy of a self-seeking local body like the village panchayat. If the mandate is not endorsed fully by the people, both who live in the protected zone as well as the elected representatives and officials, than the developments cannot be socially and ecologically just. We respectfully submit that concern for the issues of the coastal communities and their well being is a prerequisite for environmental protection. We are sure we would be allowed to live in peace in our houses with our heads held high and without fear of ever being homeless. Sincerely Aggrieved Villagers See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Abdul Kalam's Letter to every Indian
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary >>"...a sense of personal civic responsibility, which is largely >>lacking in >>India. Just take the lack of consideration on the roads and it >>is the >>same attitude everywhere." Mario The type of attitude is clearly regrettable. But it is understandable when you check this. Section 304A carries a maximum term of two years or with fine or with both for a rash and negligent act causing death but without intention to cause death. And the fine of Rs 2000/- is no more than a light slap on the wallet of a rich kid zooming off in a Mitsubishi Lancer making an exhibition of his father's wealth and power. To escape conviction for culpable homicide which carries a 10 year term under section 304, it is often the argument of defence counsels that if a person is drunk he is not in command of his senses, so how does he know he will kill someone? And what does the law have to say about drunk driving? Never mind. I find the IPC boring. If my knowledge serves me right the breath-analyzer reports are not admissible in a court. To formally book a drunk driver the police have to take him for a blood test. And as everybody knows the police would rather prefer to take a few extra rupees home than take an offender for a blood test unless he is not the obliging type. With our type of police, politicians and dead-to-the-world civic authorities anything goes -- on the roads and elsewhere. As things stand, it will take another 100 summers before our slumbering leaders wake up. Today public safety is a virtual non-issue in picture-postcard Goa. Tomorrow is a disant dream. Your choice is clear: Beware or be dead. Looking for 24 hour chemists in your area? Try Yahoo! India Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Abdul Kalam's Letter to every Indian (Mario Goveia)
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary I had read Dr. Abdul Kalam's letter to every Indian once before and dismissed it as GREAT rhetoric from a great man and the ravings of the devil's advocate. Call the devil what you may -- the system, a politician, or an administrator or simply a municipal clerk. Let me start at the beginning. "Why is the media here so negative?" Dr Kalam forgets that sometimes being negative is just being practical. "I was in Tel Aviv once and I was reading the Israeli newspaper. It was the day after a lot of attacks and bombardments and deaths had taken place. The Hamas had struck. But the front page of the newspaper had the picture of a Jewish gentleman who in five years had transformed his desert into an orchid and a granary." Not a bad achievement to match the Hamas. But I think the Tel Aviv sub lacked in news sense. If that happens in India the sub and the chief sub on the night shift will get the kick and rightly so because a newspaper is supposed to be objective in its job. "In India we only read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime." In India we read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime because that is the primary concern here. In health care, where is the system? And it is not just about international terrorism. In fact it is more about internal warfare. "Take a person on his way to Singapore. Give him a name - ‘YOURS’. Give him a face - ‘YOURS’." Singapore and Dubai have rulers and administrators who are serious about the rules of their countries. If I know I cannot bribe an RTA Officer I will dare not try. But if I know I will never get the licence without a bit of compromise on my beloved Dubai and Singapore ideals I will be compelled to chose the Indian way to spare myself the harrassment and agony of going against a treasured tradition of the country. "What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it consists of our neighbours, other households, other cities, other communities and the government. But definitely not me and YOU." Well I would recommend Dr Kalam something as simple as trying to get a birth certificate from Panjim as a resident of Canacona to get a taste of how impossible the system can be for somebody who is too stupid to stubbornly stick to his avowed principles. Dr Kalam or for that matter anyone else with a gift for words could use his pen to make an equally compelling case with as much rhetoric to suggest that the Indian political system has gone to the dogs beyond a point of salvation. And that it is certainly sensible to shut up and endure it as best as and as long as one can. Tony Martin Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com
[Goanet] One can eat only when one has the appetite
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - "Likewise, there are hundreds of Associations floated by conscious and concerned citizens to pool together their resources to fight the lethargy or lack of concern or simply the 'don't care attitude' by the government which is responsible for the perpetration of various ills in a democracy." Florian is obviouly absolutely right in his observation quoted above. But some women's collectives and some 'foreign' NGOs and some great NGOs at home all of who pretend that their heart and everything else beats only for Goa are only servicing themselves in the name of their avowed commitment to Goa and Goodness for eternity. But what can you say about a women's collective that distributes chocolates to the children of Bal Bhavan on Children's Day and wants publicity for the same. That that photo found its way in the waste can even before the ladies got out of the NT door is a different matter. Then again, a passenger shed near Club Nacional was constructed by the Rotary Club. At the GRAND opening all the families of the then Rotary Club executive members crowded themselves in the passenger shed for a bit of col space in the newspapers. Doing good for goodies. The photo appeared perhaps because for some half-baked sub on the night bit it was the news of the week. A friend came for my advice the other day on the career prospects for his son. Jest apart, I advised him if career is all about making money, start an NGO. If one is eating (particularly when it is a big bite one has taken) it is best not to open ones mouth in defense or otherwise. It is very sensible to shut up, continue eating and enjoy it while you have the appetite. Tony Martin Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
Re: [Goanet] Navhind Times Editorial
- Goanetter Francis Rodrigues (Vasco/Toronto) book launch in London, England @ the World Goa Day festivities on 15 Aug at 7pm Details http://www.konkanisongbook.com - Bro Fred, I have spoken an obvious truth many simply refuse to accept. I know your love for some of the people running the NGOs. Imagination is the fountainhead of all creativity, inventions and discoveries. Let it run wild. Tony Martin > Brother Tony, Nice to have you back on Goanet, and that too > with a bang! > > While I respect your logic and your right to your point of > view... I couldn't help wondering if point you make below is, in any > way, connected with the run-in you had with Ms. Margaret > Mascarenhas over some completely different point some while ago. > > Please convince me that my imagination is working overtime, > and I'll sleep peacefully :-) FN > > 2009/8/12 Anthony M Barreto : > > The editorial in the August 12th edition of the NT is > a power packed gem harder than diamond. 'I think' only those who live > sheltered behind the illusory facade of self-seeking lies will > find it objectionable. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Navhind Times Editorial
The editorial in the August 12th edition of the NT is a power packed gem harder than diamond. 'I think' only those who live sheltered behind the illusory facade of self-seeking lies will find it objectionable. Somewhere in the early 90s I was writing a column 'Off Course' for Gomantak Times and I wrote a piece called "Women Fronts for 'Fukot' Publicity." The leading ladies of a Women's collective came charging to the GT office and I, a humble proof reader then, perhaps would have been reduced to mince meat. Then Editor Ashwin managed to tame them and they walked out like cool cats. Now at a time when husband is running one NGO and wife another it should not be "Women Fronts for 'Fukot' Publicity" it should read may be something like "Black (or Big) Money: NGOs Lead the Way" If the NGOs take it as a face saving challenge and submit themselves to scrutiny 'on the funds, their use, activities, beneficiaries, presence or absence of nepotism and cost-benefit analysis' only a few will come out clean. And I think there will be hardly any big names in the 'a few'. Tony Martin An excerpt "But why cannot we citizens know all about the funds, their use, activities, beneficiaries, presence or absence of nepotism and cost-benefit analysis from all NGOs when their directors and presidents are operating on public money?" Another Excerpt. "Hear what the NGO caught for supplying poisonous food to children in Vasco, when reminded of accountability, says: It was the responsibility of the teachers to check the quality of the meal before they served the food. Did you hear properly? It is not the responsibility of the NGO who cooked and delivered poisonous food but the responsibility of the teachers who served them." Full Text.. CASES of food poisoning from midday meals in Vasco schools have once again brought NGO accountability question to the fore. We now have NGOs involved in almost all activities – not only in midday meals but also in AIDS control, waste management, environment preservation, consumer awareness, women’s and children’s rights, planning and panchayats. In the last few years, NGOs and local protest groups have assumed a power of doing or undoing things in Goa. They have emerged as an important player in state’s politics. Capitalising on low levels of popular satisfaction with the pace of development that would make life more comfortable for them (good roads, uninterrupted power, adequate water supply, crime control, less concretisation around home) the NGOs have become a big force, often more powerful than the government. Today NGOs have stepped in to do in many areas what the government was supposed to do. And all with government money. And money from charities across the country and abroad. Public money collected or saved from taxes, in other words: all in the name of people’s participation in the people’s system of government. And what do we have to hear when we confront an NGO on their accountability? The filthiest harangue on ‘chalis chors’ and powerful lobbies. No, you cannot question an NGO; they are holy people; washed in sacred rivers of the Ganga and Mhadei and blessed by angels in flowing robes. They are avatars on earth to deliver and redeem helpless masses. Hear what the NGO caught for supplying poisonous food to children in Vasco, when reminded of accountability, says: It was the responsibility of the teachers to check the quality of the meal before they served the food. Did you hear properly? It is not the responsibility of the NGO who cooked and delivered poisonous food but the responsibility of the teachers who served them. NGOs are forever pointing fingers at others. They are the permanent opposition in the state. This is to avoid facing any accountability challenge for their own mismanagement, misappropriation, irresponsibility or criminality. Politicians and corporates are their favourite punching bags: they are the ones who are driving Goa into the mouth of the Apocalypse because they are forever emptying the public treasury. But of late, NGOs have seen a silver lining in the Right to Information Act. They do not tire applauding RTI for transparency in governance. But ask them could RTI be applied to their NGOs’ records and accounts and you can be sure to be mauled in the face with calumnies and filthy missiles about chalis chors and powerful lobbies. But why cannot we citizens know all about the funds, their use, activities, beneficiaries, presence or absence of nepotism and cost-benefit analysis from all NGOs when their directors and presidents are operating on public money? Transparency in NGOs is all the more necessary today because they have assumed a much higher profile and level of political influence than was ever previously the case. How else to know if there are no more than ‘chalis chors’? Especially unelected ones? We know such demand will unite the extremist type of activis
Re: [Goanet] Mario Menezes at Khell Tiatr Festival created a huge hungama
"Last month June 2009, besides the fixed BSNL monthly charges Rs.1350, it also cost me Rs.450 more. This is because I exceeded the permissable monthly usage limit i.e. 5GB and anything above that charged @ 80paise per MB" --- Are Joegoauk do you know what and how much it takes to write, direct, & stage a tiatr? Did some tiatrists rub you wrong? You say Mario created a huge hungama. Forget huge, what hungama are you talking about? You scream your lungs out when Herald uses a picture you clicked. Here it is video shooting. He was certainly within his rights in what he did. Don't blow your balloon to much lest it burst. Regards Tony Martin --- On Tue, 21/7/09, JoeGoaUk wrote: > From: JoeGoaUk > > A media man with Video Camera was a regular to Khell > Tiatr Festival 2009 at Kala Academy , We saw him coming in > the middle of the show, take a seat in the front row, > capture about 20-30 minutes and them off he > go. > > But, today's tiatr (Mario Menezes flop?) title LOVE > STORY 2009 > (I also call it flop because, few weeks after it's > release in mid April, this tiatr was abandoned? and Mario > came with another 'Kal, Aiz and Faleam'), the media man > was there as usual. Mario send his messenger to stop him > from video shooting and at the same time he made > general announcement saying > 'Video shooting not allowed'
[Goanet] Save the Environment: Eat Beef!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com By now, it is quite a well known fact that cows generate more emissions than aircrafts which once prompted Michael O’Leary, the boss of the budget airline Ryanair, to suggest that a solution to the global warming would be the massacre of the world’s cattle. But mass slaughter of the world’s cattle is no solution and besides that would have been okay if we could milk aircrafts. But figuratively up to now it is airlines that have been milking us – budget airlines being no exception. Mass massacre apart, as an environmentalist I do my bit by being a beef eater. And like minded people should consider the option and help reduce global warming. Tony Martin
[Goanet] Bad news intro? or good PR?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Donations worth lakhs of rupees were made by Goa Sudharop to several deserving educational and social institutions and NGOs serving public cause, at the annual awards presentation function held at Hotel Mandovi, here last evening. My appreciation to Goa Sudharop. I would be glad to kmow the list of beneficiariries and the corresponding amount.
[Goanet] Arundhati's solution to contain terrorism
"The only way to contain (it would be na?ve to say end) terrorism is to look at the monster in the mirror. We're standing at a fork in the road. One sign says Justice, the other Civil War. There's no third sign and there's no going back. Choose." Dear Dr Helekar Without claiming to be some sort of authority I would like to offer a possible explanation for Roy's concluding remark. Look at the monster in the mirror = implies the monster is within Justice = the terrorism within needs to be addressed in a fair manner. Civil War = the absence of justice and continued terrorism within the country could spell the beginnings of a civil war. Perhaps Arundhati implies that when terrorism within stops the terrorists from across the border will stop their tit-for-tat games which perhaps began with the demolition of the Babri in 1992 by self-seeking politicians obsessed with power. It works. Ask Narendra Modi. If the BJP has a hero it is he. Regards Tony Martin
[Goanet] Cheers Sonia!!
The assembly results of Delhi, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Mizoram are out. The score is 3-2 in favour of Congress. I am sure one Dr Barad had a sleepless night or two. Terrorism as a success fromula has failed and terrorists are bound to lose -- whether they are international or home-bred. Cheers Sonia! Tony Martin
[Goanet] Dr Borad's net conclusion is.....:> check it.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com "I had loads of discussions with my friends and equally with my foes. And the net conclusion that immerged out of discussion is as follows:" -- Dr U G Borad Vow! This is really amusing stuff from Doctor UG Borad. After loads of discussions with his friends and equally with his foes the net conclusion is a plagiarized verbatim text from the following website: http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=261&page=7 as pointed out by Dr. Helekar. :> regards Tony Martin Message: 12 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Evangelism & Indian Culture To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Most of the material in the post below appears to have been plagiarized verbatim from the following website: http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=261&page=7 Furthermore, having originated on this notorious partisan fringe website, the accuracy of most of the assertions in it is suspect. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Dr. U. G. Barad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Further to my views on two misused words: Secular and > Secularism, I had > loads of discussions with my friends and equally with my > foes. And the net > conclusion that immerged out of discussion is as follows: > In India and particularly in Goa the opposition is not to a > religion but to > a calculating church which is practicing a silent invasion > under the very > umbrella of a Constitution. The UPA government-and in the > end India itself, > including GOA - is being taken for a ride. India's > decency is being > exploited fully and there must be laugher in various > evangelist centers at > India's & Goa's stupidity.
[Goanet] Prabhakar Sinari in a muddle!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I largely agree with Mr Sinari's views I think he is unreasonable on the following points. ONE: "If, in the future, there is a clash between India and Europe or European Union, would these 45,000-odd Portuguese passport holders surrender their passports and show their loyalty to India? Though this is a hypothetical question, there should be a definite and concrete reply to it." -- Prabhakar Sinari --- Mr Sinari should first check his daughters response to his question. --- Man's primary duty is to his self and to the well-being of his family. At least I would not accept a nationalism if it threatened my bread and butter. As a senior citizen and as a freedom fighter if he is worth his salt then he should obviously realise that there are better ways to show show our loyalty to India? Anything unlike the Mala rampage. SEOND: "Unfortunately, Portugal, during its 450-years of domicile in Goa also failed to provide even one valuable philosophical thought or an enlightening view to Goa like the British did to India." -- That's a petty point. Mr Sinari forgets the enduring Patto Bridge. :> Would he accept an invasion by the Greeks with all the earth-shaking philosophies?
[Goanet] Bernado, Florian in a muddle over Sinari's Portuguese daughter!
What hypocrisy are Bernado Colaco and Florian Lobo talking about? Looks like they have lost it. Prabhakar Sinari's daughter can obviously marry who and where she wants? Bernado looks like he is talking about some unforgiveable crime when he says: "moreover this girl is married to the white race." (Oh my God! :>) I would not call it hypocisy even if say after the freedom struggle Mr Prabhakar Sinari himself had fancied a Portuguese girl and married her. Issues are different from individuals and their likes and tastes. Well known Freedom Fighter of the “Eu Protesto” (I protest) fame, Dr Pundalik Gaitonde from Canaconais married to a Portuguese if I am not mistaken. I am surprised Bernado has led Florian so easily into an obvious mudddle. Regards Tony Martin Message: 8 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:34:08 +0530 From: "goasuraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original I fully endorse BC on this (though I might not look eye to eye with him on most other things). If what BC has reported is true, which I will find out soon, I shall speak to Sinari again like I have spoken to him before. I have a special neck to deal with fake freedom fighters and it is not to say that they do not like my tongue. Flavian Dias has tasted it before during his sucking up to the BJP and the VCD on freedom struggle. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:37 AM Subject: [Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen Close sources to BC inform me that Sinari once from the Azad Gomantak Dal a terrorist organization has a daughter who is a Portuguese citizen, moreover this girl is married to the white race. If this is all true one wonders if the word hypocrisy has any meaning.
[Goanet] women fronts for fukot publicity!
To lose a daughter is tragic for a mother. The women groups would have done well to get together to seek justice for the bereaved mother. But they chose to harass her over a matter that is quite subjective though debatable. That gave them international limelight and the Goa Police got an alibi to give the mother a taste of Goa cop(s). Women’s groups are generally fronts for fukot publicity. There are women issues crying for attention staring them in the face. But they are obviously not interested in this ‘behind-the-curtain’ type of social work. Perhaps the words of William Blake will ring a bell, “He who would do good to another should do it in minute particulars, general good is the plea of the scoundrels, hypocrites and flatterers.” If one takes a look at their charter of activities they will be mostly some competitions, planting saplings, felicitations or some cultural programmes etc. And these are followed by as much publicity as possible in the local dailies. I remember once when I was a sub some ladies walked into the NT office with a photograph for publication and instructions on how and where it needs to be carried. The photograph showed some over-fed women decked in jewellery and war paint distributing chocolates to the children of Bal Bhavan on Children’s Day. If the women’s groups have something to flaunt in terms of achievements let them make it public. May be there are indeed some achievements that will make us Goans proud. ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
Re: [Goanet] Typos and semi-literates!
Dear Fred I too wouldn't pillory anyone for the quality of their language. But Dr. Barad is not anyone. He is a doctor. I don't know whether it is in medicine or he holds a doctorate. But either way he is a highly qualified man. And an author too. So there should not be any excuse for VERY BAD English. And I am not talking about the common typos and other errors which are more due to oversight. It would certainly be unfair if Dr Barad took off our faultable knowledge of medical issues simply because we have never studied medicine. Whereas English is the medium of instruction at all levels of education. I am sure Dr Barad has got his degrees by answering exams in English. It is OK if he answered all his exams in Greek in a university in Greece. Best Regards Tony Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:08:11 +0530 From: " Frederick [FN] Noronha * " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Typos and semi-literates! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Hi Tony, I wouldn't pillory anyone for the quality of their language ... maybe for the quality of their arguments. Would it be fair if Dr Barad took off our faultable knowledge of medical issues? I don't agree with you here. FN ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
Re: [Goanet] Fodrina
Fodrina is just Mr. Barad's way of expressing his contempt to names like Celina and Katrina. I think it offers a mirror to the scorn and hatred in his heart. Tony Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:54:10 +0300 From: "Edward Verdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] What's the problem with Celina, Katrina, Fodrina? To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Wow..Fodrina...a new name? Can anyone tell me if its Indian/Italian/English name? eddie - Original Message - From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: [Goanet] What's the problem with Celina, Katrina? ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
Re: [Goanet] George Pinto and prostitution
Samir you have said it. I agree with you. There's lot of rhetoric flowing from overseas on saving Goa. I think it's just a case of gaining some recognition while in a distant land. I would call it trying to do good or sound good or mean good for goodies. Regards Tony Martin ***Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 ***
[Goanet] Typos and semi-literates!
Dear Gabe I would class them as typos which are more due to oversight than lack of knowledge. They are different from illiterate expressions used by people with multiple titles appended to their name but cannot frame a decent sentence in English. I wonder how such people got their doctorates. And how they could be authors with books to their name is a mystery that would beat the biggest names in mystery thrillers. Best regards Tony Martin ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
[Goanet] In the lighter vein: Rape of Goa at Grace Church hall
Goanet is read by thousands of readers. It is very irritating to read messages written in horrible English, particularly, by someone like Mr. Barad who is supposed to be an author of several books and a doctor. Check this: --on account of which I organized Rape of Goa at Grace Church hall in Margao through --one of the NGO. --On the day both were peaceful and calm and literary busy educating Goans --Goa is getting wiped out from the Scenic beauty. --I am more then convinced that GBA did not leave to the expectation --instead of saving Goa, the members saved themselves! --I had also written article in Goan local news media lauding on this issue. --will push Goa to finish. ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
[Goanet] CANACONA POLICE INCOMPETENCE OR COVER-UP
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Tri Continental Film Festival 2008 July 25 - 30, 2008 Goa, India http://www.moviesgoa.org/page/tri_continental/ http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricon/schedule_2008.pdf --- CANACONA POLICE INCOMPETENCE OR COVER-UP On 21st July 2008 at 14:15 hours the bruised body of Dominic Coutinho, who was living alone in his ancestral house at Borkoifond, Canacona, was found lying naked by his brother Edwin Coutinho. Says Edwin: “There were stains of blood at the entrance and a chargeable torch lying in the veranda with the door wide open. It was obvious that Dominic had suffered some head injuries and bruises at a few places on his body. The first postmortem report suggested head injuries at the back and also on the forehead. Bruises in the neck, elbow and knee region were also identified. The first autopsy report does not mention any vital organ failure which could lead to death. “There was further reason to suspect murder as the deceased had had a brawl with some quarry workers around 15 days before his death. The dispute was over a demand for an additional access road bisecting the property to which he had refused leading to fisticuffs. The investigating officer, Canacona P. I. Suraj Halarnkar in his casual approach failed to collect the crucial evidence from the site which was not cordoned off during the first investigation. Although there was enough circumstantial evidence to suggest it was a case of murder, the P. I. registered a case of unnatural death. When pressed by family members of the deceased to register it as a case of murder, Canacona PI Mr. Halarnkar refused saying that he has to get permission from the Superintendent of Police South Goa.” Subsequently an application was filed on 24th July 2008 in the office of Superintendent of Police, South Goa, to register the case as murder. But till date no case is registered. The argument of the police is that the cause of death in the postmortem is reserved and the police would act only after the analysis of viscera is obtained. However till 29th July 2008, eight days after the death, the viscera was not send for analysis in spite of frequent pleas to the Superintendent of Police to that effect. Was it incompetence, willful negligence or a deliberate cover-up? ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
[Goanet] A Tribute to Gregory
* * * 2007 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 27, 2007 @ 4:30pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-December/066098.html Every time I think of Greg I find it still difficult to accept the fact that he is no more. And for his family and loved ones perhaps it will take many more months or may be years for the painful reality to sink in. Gregory Kiran Fernandes from Agonda, Canacona was cruelly murdered on 20th October 2007 by beastly teens in an unprovoked racist attack at Fawley in Hampshire County, UK. I have known Greg as my student for two years (1995-1997) when he was studying food production at Government Higher Secondary School Canacona. I or for that matter any teacher is unlikely to forget the charm he carried in his ever cheerful face and bright eyes. The Food Production class then was a class of naughty brats who were interested in everything but food production or any sort of learning. And teaching English to them was often an experience any new teacher would prefer to quickly forget. But one Greg was enough to let me hang on to a job that held my dreams -- and future. What particularly struck me about Greg was his maturity. Even at 15 and something he showed the mind and maturity of an adult in whatever he did or said. His positive attitude, love of learning, commitment to his responsibilities and his knack for "making a difference" to those around him in his school and in his community made him a very lovable being. Greg was a gem. If I managed to survive my trying early days as a teacher, it was largely due to the initial optimism I received from Greg. He was the type of learner I would love to teach and be pleased despite the other unfriendly factors. Today, I teach English in a reputed GEMS school in Dubai and feel proud to acknowledge that it is students like Greg who have helped me to discover and develop myself. Another special about Greg was his good relationship skills. It is unlikely that there was anyone in the school or in his community who disliked him. With his tolerant and receptive attitude, Greg was always an easy-to-get-along and amiable fellow who spread his cheer and goodness everywhere around him. I must say despite losing him so early, the parents of Greg were truly blessed to have him. The few years that Greg lived, he lived a happy and productive life. Today as we resign to God's will, we thank Him for a rare gem He lent us too briefly. Tony Martin ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 * Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --- Spread the Christmas Cheer, even when you're not here! Send classic greetings to your loved ones in Goa. EXPRESSIONS - 2007 Christmas Hamper Visit http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Or e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Ivana Furtado feat lost?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet mourns the passing of Jorge de Abreu Noronha in Portugal - Nov 27/07 http://tinyurl.com/2dk2bl http://tinyurl.com/29kpdx --- In the UAE, or in any other country,Ivana's feat would have invited a few millions by now. I wonder what incentives our chief minister, Goa Chess Association and the All India Chess Federation, not to speak of the leading business houses, have announced for Ivana. TM Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Canacona Sailor killed 'because of race'
Sailor attacked 'because of race' Gregory Kiran Fernandes was attacked as he returned to his ship An Indian sailor who died during an assault by a group of teenagers was attacked and beaten because of his race, Hampshire police said. They have stepped up patrols in Fawley where Gregory Kiran Fernandes, 32, from Goa, India, died. They have also been reassuring residents concerned about groups of youths congregating in the area. Three teenagers arrested on suspicion of murdering Mr Fernandes have been released on police bail. Collapsed at gate Ch Insp Gary Cooper said they were working with all residents to ensure that this incident does not lead to community tension. "We are aware of groups of youths congregating in areas of Fawley, which can intimidate local residents," he said. "Safer Neighbourhoods officers are working closely with our partner agencies to tackle issues of youth nuisance and anti-social behaviour." Mr Fernandes and a shipmate had just left the Falcon Hotel on Saturday night, where they had shared a soft drink, when they were assaulted by a group of 20 teenagers along Church Lane. They were returning to the cargo ship, The Garonne, berthed at Fawley oil refinery. Anti-social profile His colleague, 29, escaped but Mr Fernandes was beaten and left. A passer-by took the injured man to dock gate two at the end of Marsh Lane, where he collapsed and died, a police spokeswoman said. A post-mortem examination proved inconclusive and further tests have been ordered. "I would like to reassure local people the police are taking this very tragic incident extremely seriously," Ch Insp Gary Cooper added. "I would encourage residents to report any incidents of anti-social behaviour or youth nuisance to police." ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
�Ye Goa ke log ajeeb hai.�
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Follow the online presence of the Museum of Christian Art, Old Goa Contacts: Tel: +91 832 2285299 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://christianartmuseum.goa-india.org/ --- Never mind if people walk-in in a government hospital and come out on a stretcher --often dead; never mind if people continue to live in palm-thatched houses fighting to keep the rain water out; never mind if the taps seem to perennially run dry; never mind if the roads across the state are full of potholes as big as craters; never mind if people still treasure their dear kerosene lamps or candles everyday when power fails; never mind the fact that in our education system our post graduates often cannot spell their motherÂs name; never mind that the children of the street who should be going to school if anybody cares; never mind the fact that half the people are waiting for telephone connections while the other half is waiting for the dial tone. At least our CMji is doing something for the people. If Mr Digamber Kamat is not day-dreaming Goa is set to become the first state in India to be fully connected through a high-bandwidth broadband network by March 2008. ÂOptic fibre cables and wireless technologies will be used across the state and will also link some 200 computer kiosks that deliver government services to the state's residents Stretching KamatÂs dream, IT Minister Mr Dayanand Narvekar proudly declares: Âall government departments to be computerised in three months. Back in 2004 then chief minister Mr Manohar Parrikar had announced that GoaÂs Dharani project would make it a front-runner among other states to have a complete land records information system. We are still waiting. He had even assured that GoaÂs dole scheme beneficiaries would be able to check the status of their stipend or application on-line. (In his genius the ex-cm had anticipated that the dole seekers are a net-savvy lot having computers at home.) And whatever happened to the other high-tech projects. The stupid and ill-conceived e-post service was destined too die in its neo-natal stage. KRC and BSNL were to tie-up for uninterrupted mobile connectivity along rail route. That remains a distant dream for commuters. Civic amenities that are supposed to be basic to any forward-looking society  decent healthcare, good roads, uninterrupted power supply, clean drinking water  belong, it sometimes seems, to a surreal world that is beyond our maahaan Bharat. Looks like while the people are dying for bread successive governments are talking about the latest baking systems. To top it most of this rhetoric is accepted with applause by unwary fools called Ami Goenkar. Al that, if anything, confirms one thing: Âye Goa ke log ajeeb hai. ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 * Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
[Goanet] Miguel's signature, Lampiao and SMP
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org I know who Miguel Braganza is and WHAT he is. But his signature does not make a mention of his profession or occupation. An additonal word like Horticulturist or Editor or a 4-line signature is certainly not out of place. .. And Pandu Lampiao reminds me of my friend Dr Aureliano Fernandes (now head of the Pol Sci department at GU) who used to write middles for GT with the pen name Shentar Mar Pil'luk. Of course he did not use so many words in his by line, it just read SMP. Regards Tony Martin Who is this latest edition Pandu Lampiao please? ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] A suggestion
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Goanet is getting more and more of a free for all. The lack of isues is getting irritating. I think people like Bhandare are often conveniently misusing this great list to promote their vicious campaign that openly spews hatred. I would suggest Goanet should make it mandatory for posters to positively identify themselves, where they are based and a phone number. A message without a signature should be automatically rejected. Secondly a blanket ban on comments relating to matters of faith may also be considered. Regards Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
[Goanet] Shivaji: Hero or thieving Murderer?
--- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Maratha Incursions: Towards the end of 1664 Shivaji Bhonslé captured Kudal, Pernem and Bicholim from the Adil Shah. In 1666 he also besieged Ponda from the Adil Shah. In 1667 Shivaji attacked Bardez. He looted and burnt some villages for three days in succession. Over 2000 men, women and children were taken prisoners and some were killed. Historians differ on the causes of Shivajis attack on Bardez. Some historians feel that he disapproved of the policies of religious persecution prevailing in Goa. The other view is that Shivaji attacked Bardez because the Desais from Kudal, Pernem and Bicholim had taken shelter in Bardez from where they continued their hostilities against Shivaji. However many historians believe that it was his economic need that compelled him to attack Bardez. By looting Bardez, as he had looted Soorat, he obtained some wealth. In 1683 the Portuguese attacked the Maratha Fort at Ponda. But Sambhaji not only drove the Portuguese out of Ponda but also captured Bardez and Salcete talukas and kept Goa city under Seige. Just when it seemed likely that the Portuguese might surrender to the Marathas, the advance of the Mughals in Konkan diverted Sambhaji. Had the Portuguese surrendered to the Marathas then, today Goa would have had a different story to tell. Later in March 1689 Sambhaji was brutally murdered by the Mughals. ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
[Goanet] albert, religion, and dukor
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Arre Albert Irmao Your religion sermao is so boring yaar. At least Dutor Carmo's 'Dukor' made interesting even if he chose to project himself in bad taste. Regards Tony Martin P.S.: Now I know my name makes you angry, pl don't be, anger is not good for your health. Message: 10 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:48:48 + From: "Albert Desouza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] religion and politics To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed There are many things going on in my mind which no one wants to solve.Many times we roman catholics feel that we are superior and that we are following religion which has descended from Jesus and that st peter is the first pope .Can any one prove this? Why do we roman catholics criticise the christians of other denominations? in what way is our religion ************** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] To Aires
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Aires Many on goanet would love to read your comments on BJPs role in the Sanvordem and Margao riots. Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Remo with the BJP?
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Remo's call to boycott elections looks like a veiled attempt to get the BJP in the Chair again. The BJP vote-bank is fixed and come what may they will vote. If anybody decides to boycott it will be the Catholics. If we don't get to the booth now we may have to see the fireworks experienced by many at Sanvordem and Margao. Tony Martin ****** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] When Aires quits the BJP...
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- It is amusing but Aires is within his right in making his choice. I think he is undergoing some sort of identity crisis to join the BJP. And he makes no nense talking about priorities for the BJP. The fact is that the BJP has no priorities in Goa. Their one point agenda is Hindutva. Sanvordem and Margao were trailors. We will get to see the actual show faster than anticipated only if more and more people like Aires help them to get a clear mandate. Oh Goa! My Goa! Tony Martin P.S.: I shall wait for the day to read what Aires will have to say when he resigns from the BJP. ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Dark tales from Goa
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Goa Sudharop to Release Goan Seniors E-book May 8, 2007 at 5:30pm at Hotel Mandovi, Panaji, Goa www.goasudharop.org Dark tales from Goa JANHAVI ACHAREKAR A collection of stories within a broader narrative, the book is a brave attempt. --It is an insider's look at all things familiar, and a confrontation with all that is unpleasant and stashed away in dark recesses or in this case, the attic. -- Tales from the Attic; Savia Viegas, Saxtti, Rs. 200. IF you're thinking susegad, carnival, sunny beaches and feni when you think Goa, you may want to alter your views with Tales from the Attic. A dark and brooding narrative about the inner workings of a state generally associated with its intoxicating air and carefree residents, Savia Viegas' debut novel takes you to the post-Liberation era in Goa a time well before the hippy, the tourist and the budget airline eras that transformed the state into beach bacchanalia. A self-published work, this is the latest among dark writings set in the sunny state (Sonia Faleiro's The Girl is another such work). It is the story of Marri, a schoolteacher who drifts into the nooks and crannies of her past under the influence of anaesthesia. Check full review here: http://www.hindu.com/lr/2007/05/06/stories/2007050600330600.htm ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] Foreign Land-Grab in Goa: Xenophobic Overreaction?
tum on foreigners buying land in Goa that their buying land through illegal means and by violating RBI and foreign ministry rules would put them in trouble. Sub-Registrars were also instructed to route all files pertaining to registration of properties through the Home Department for verification. Mr Rane said if properties are found to have been bought in violation of the law of the land, they would be taken over by the Government. The available statistics do ring a bell but the research on the land issue tends to be generally inadequate. There is a need for critical reflection and the most pressing research concern must be to understand the precise nature of the land-grab, need for fresh land reforms and a road map for sustainable development of available land resources, says an environmentalist pointing out the need to check the trend that is seen as alarming. ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Anthony Barretto aka Tony Martin
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Albert Dear: Is it a must that you should expose yourself as a fool (flower:>) everytime you make a post. >>If you think you are fantastic writer and >>journalist. I am a realistic writer. People tell me some exclusive stories I have done are great. >>organise a public meeting and go on the dais and >>speak and tell the world you are the greatest >>journalist on earth. I do take the dais sometimes. I did to save the olive ridley turtles at Galgibaga, I did to fight against Penguin Alcohols Pvt. Ltd. Forget being the greatest I doubt if I even qualify as a great writer but I am certain I am good in my own way. >>Thank God I do not live in the jungles of >>canacona. Canacona is a jungle full of lions. :>) >>I really appreciate Eugene Correia's guts >>to hit you below the belt. I will allow you your small pleasures. >>If you are really a clever and inteligent you will >>understand what I have written and keep out of >>politics. Goa Su-raj Party has announced me as their candidate for the Poinguinim assembly constituency. More and more good souls like me should take up politics they say. >>Be wise Be albert ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Parrikar's Khaki Shorts!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Manohar Parrikar gave distant Canacona the most beautiful Bus Stand in the state and a new hospital building. The non-performing (Parrikars term) Congress b*ds (excuse my language) cannot even make it operational after almost two years. The luxury of dialysis for kidney patients at Canacona still remains a dream even after topping the least of kidney patients in the state (officially) for the last two decades. Incredible as it is there are over a thousand renal failure patients fighting for a few more days in Canacona with a population of not more than 40,000 people. Parrikar is an effective administrator, a do-er. And a man with common sense. He knows the slice of the cake depends on the size of the cake. You obviously cannot expect a big slice for a small cake. But at least we get the cake (read IFFI, Canacona Bus Stand and a new hospital building.) What is special about the Congress is that they dont need a cake to get their slices. Perhaps Parrikar is the best CM Goa has had as far as effectiveness as an administrator is concerned. But with his Khaki shorts on he is also the most dangerous man. A show piece like the bus stand and all types of infrastructure development would be meaningless without peace. The threat the BJP poses to Goas legendary peaceful life is far more dangerous than all the negatives of all the parties put together. Remember Goa has all the ingredients for a devastating communal fire. A demand like we want our temples back could lead to a few more Babris. We have seen a few trailors of what the BJP has on its agenda. To allow it to show us the full movie could be an invitation to disaster. Regards Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Clarification of Secularism
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Dr Barad wrote: "One thing that I am very certain about is that the word Secularism definitely did not take a birth or prominence in India after Babri Masjit was demolished and after the inhuman crimes against Christen and Muslim faith by Hindu brigade RSS. The very inclusion of Nehruvian model of secularism which was accepted after arriving at broad consensus in the original constitution is very much indicative that the above claim is not correct." Dr Barad, birth and coming into prominence are obviously not the same. Due attention was of course given to the secular nature of the country in the preamble to the Constitution. But the recent activities targetted against Muslims and Christians in Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan and Orissa put the word 'secular' as enshrined in the Constitution back into focus. Before that the word was hardly ever discussed. With best regards Tony Martin ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Secularism - Frightening Goans
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor The words secular and secularism came into prominence following the barbaric demolition of the Babri Masjid in 1992 and the inhuman crimes against the Christian faith by the Hindutva brigade. Today the simple meaning of secularism is not to demolish masjids, not to attack places of worship, not to rape nuns, not to kill Christian priests and not to involve in hate campaigns. After sustained atrocities against the minorities, people have generally come to accept that any person or organisation that does not involve in such heinous acts is secular. Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Gulf Times
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor >>And you probably know that I know what happened >>there. I certaily didn't rape or rob anybody there. :>) And I stayed at the Bahrain International Hotel. And I certainly didn't force myself on Bahrain Goans like one EC did in Muscat, Dubai, and everywhere he went while on a job hunt in the gulf. Tony Martin ************** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Naked Goa!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Thanks for some publicity to Naked Goa. Broadway, Panjim and Golden Heart Emporium, Margao should be happy. Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Albert ko gussa kyon ata hai?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Albert dear, gentlemen like you don't express their anger in public. To show anger is to make an exhibition of your weakness. Besides anger is not good for your soul and it could play havoc with your body. Now take a deep breath, relax and try to smile. I read your mail with a smile and could almost hear the grind of your teeth. Chi!! Chi!! Tony Martin Message: 7 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:17:07 + From: "Albert Desouza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Tony Martin V/S Dr.Barad To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Note the irony here: "He came out from the mother's womb with a pen in his mouth and dictionary in his hand." And he adds "Please stop being too personal." :) :) ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
[Goanet] Re.: Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin!!!!! (to Dr Barad)
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>More over from such reply in defense coming from a >>person claimed to be writer and author I feel he is >>exhibiting himself to be a person belonging >>to "birds of same feather flop together". I hope >>Goanet members understood whom I am talking about? >>Yes you all got it right! --- I scribbled the mail given below with a smile. I am sure Dr Barad read it with a frown and felt hurt. Dr. Barad I wish to express my sincere regrets as I know it hurt you. (Remember the laugh, cry or think criterion.) But I am very passionate about English and it makes me feel bad when learned people murder it. That is not to say that I am infallible nor am I the chancellor of any university as rightly pointed out by you. But you say "birds of same feather flop together". The word is flock not flop and the full stop should come inside the quotation. Teaching comes naturally to me (imo) so please take it sportingly. Besides, I am told, you are a prize winning author yourself and it should help. BEST REGARDS Tony Martin I am glad Dr Barad is not a lawyer. Forget others, he makes such a bad case defending himself. I only hope the title in his name is not connected to medicine. Regards Tony Martin P.S.: And Dr Barad please the title 'Mr.' always goes with the surname or first name + surname but never with the first name alone. I call it an illiterate expression. May be it is OK with Oxford and Cambridge. TM ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[Goanet] A B C D in Goa: Latest update.
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor This news is beyond the scope of local dailies. Hence for the benefit of diaspora Goans here goes: GOA: The waistline (skirt & Jean) dips to a dangerous low, the cut is going deeper and the skirt is getting shorter. With that, A B C D in Goa has taken a new meaning: Now A B C D means "Ago Baié Ched'ddi Dista." Regards. Tony Martin ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: [Goanet] Twisty and interpreted replies of Mr. Anthony M. Barreto (Dr. U. G. Barad)
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor I am glad Dr Barad is not a lawyer. Forget others, he makes such a bad case defending himself. I only hope the title in his name is not connected to medicine. Regards Tony Martin P.S.: And Dr Barad please the title 'Mr.' always goes with the surname or first name + surname but never with the first name alone. I call it an illiterate expression. May be it is OK with Oxford and Cambridge. TM Message: 2 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 09:17:41 +0530 From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Twisty and interpreted replies of Mr. Anthony M. Barreto To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ************** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[Goanet] Social Activism: Doing Good for Goodies!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Years back when I wrote a piece for GT called 'Women Fronts for Fukot Publicity' many women did not like it. Some even personally registered their protest with the then ed. Ashwin. When I was a sub with the NT two women leaders came with a photograph pleading that it be carried in the next day's edition. The picture showed members of a women's organisation distributing sweets to the children of Bal Bhavan. The picture (in pieces)of course landed into my dust can even before the two ladies got out of the NT office. Now check this: Rotary inaugurates a passenger shed at Panjim. The picture is crammed with all the executive members of the Panaji Rotary along with their children and grand children. So much for social activists. Any rich moron without some sort of identity goes as a social worker. Today if you ask a child what he will become prompt comes the reply: "I will start an NGO." It is the latest money spinner. Husband runs one NGO, wife another. (If a bit of initial paper-work is not a pain, you could drown yourself with heaps of money. Try it.) Actually there are no social workers today only self-seekers. What they seek may be money, fame, recognition or a sense of personal satisfaction. If social activism is a vocation then it certainly cannot take a break. If the Goa Bachao Abhiyan has gone limp it is largely because it is a stew of conflicting partisan interests. 'Apolitical' is a lame ruse. As victor Albuquerque has suggested more and more professionals (or proven fresh faces) need to step into politics and the GBA could support them. That leaves out seasoned politicians. How's that? Tony Martin ************** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
[Goanet] The Way of the Cross: Atrocities against Christians (1964-1998)
mpus in Robertsganj. They threatened a group of about 32 seekers and misbehaved with the medical superintendent, Dr. (Mrs.) Monica Benjamin. September 26 (U.P.): Activists of Hindu Jagran Manch, Bajrang Dal and Rana Tharu Parishad broke into the Union Church in Amaun, two kilometers east of Khatima, in Udham Singh Nagar District. They put up an idol of Shiva in the church and worshipped it for about two hours. September 26 (New Delhi): A Statue of St. Bernard was hacked and thrown out of the compound of Jesus and Mary College in New Delhi. September 30 (New Delhi): Acharya Giriraj Kishor, the Secretary-General of the VHP, warned Christian missionaries to leave India. October 7 (U.P.) : Christy Jyoti Convent Public School threatened by villagers of Baghpat and Meerut Districts. October 10 '98 - BJP Government's Home Minister has accused Mr. Houtsma of "Spreading superstition in our society" and violating the rules under Bombay Police Act by organising a Faith Healing session in Rajkot. Police had issued a show cause notice to the Faith Healer. October30 '98- (Ayodhya) - The BJP dominated council of Ayodhya last week passed a resolution banning burial of the bodies within the municipal limits of this historic town. October 30 (Gujarat): Attack on delegates attending the National Christian Conference in Baroda during the 9th Leadership Conference from 27th October to 1st November 1998. They used sticks, belts, chains, and fists to mercilessly beat up the delegates as they were forced into the streets. Bibles and other personal documents were snatched from their hands. About 40 of those beaten up sustained injuries. November 9 (Haryana): A Catholic convent was broken into in Jhajjar District in Kheda Khummar Village and two nuns, Sr. Daisy and Sr. Litsy were assaulted and asked to leave the place. November 11 (Gujarat) : In village Borigautha near vaghai in Dangs district, miscreatns tried to burn down a chapel. The miscreants also set fire to some structures in the village and looted the people. November 11 (Gujarat) : In Daghunia village near the Saputara road in Dangs district, several Christian tribals were beaten up including a sickly lady. Several families were taken to Unai in forced to bathe in the hot springs as a kind of `purification. ' The woman and her husband were again terrorised and assaulted. The elected sarpanch sided with the miscreatns and has now decreed that the Christians should not draw water from the village well, and should not send thier cattle with the animals of other villagers to the jungles to graze. In another decree, the village Sarpanch had said the Christians would no longer be given work in any government or government aided project. Sultan Battery (Kerala) Gospel workers that includes 4 women whom belongs to the St. Paul's Mission of India was attacked by RSS workers. They were beaten brutaly and their bibles were destroyed. - Continuing harassment and violence against Christians in Dharampur, South Gujarat: - Jamalpadam village: Adivasi Christians of the village were beaten up allegedly by VHP activists. - Pipalyamal village. In complicity between police officer Damor and local VHP activist Gamaj Gavli, Christians have been routinely harassed and threatened. - Jarsol Village; The Gujarat Samachar, against which the Christians have made several complaints, reported, falsely, that Adivasi Christians of the village had slaughtered and eaten a cow. False complaints were filed by the police officer, G. M. Damor, and many Christians were implicated and locked up ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
[Goanet] Cong v/s BJP: reply to Dr. Barad
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Message: 5 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:01:43 +0530 From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Postings of Anthony M. Barreto & Jose Colaco >>During election year/time whoever writes truth is >>misunderstood or misinterpreted. If one writes on >>misdeeds about congress. When you singularly target one you are obviously making a case for the other. >>Just because of this philosophy should people >>stop writing. That question is too childish. Each one of us has a right to our opinion as long as we are willing to concede the same to others. Even if you choose to play an advocate extolling the virtues of the BJP that's your choice. >>I feel he has still not read my posting addressed >>to Mr. Bosco "I hate BJP but today I hate congress >>the most". I know why you hate the Congress. You have said a lot on that. Good. Please tell us why you hate the BJP. You have never said a word about that. Who are the others you hate? >>In all my postings to GoaNet, I have exposed >>and written against congress Dr Barad you have never 'exposed' the Congress. Exposing is connected to hard evidence. You have only commented on the Congress. And as often as they come comments are highly subjective. >>Goa has seen 5 plus different chief ministers from >>congress party. All have miserably failed. >From Bandokar to the present breed all the chief ministers Goa has had have failed. While Bandodkar and his cronies tried to sell Goa to Maharashtra, CM Rane and his son have been selling Goa for their personal greed with great impunity. >>In your posting towards the end you say "Rane's >>fiefdom should certainly end. Goans need to vote >>sensibly?" Does this statement mean that "the state >>of Goa today is because Rane is the chief minister >>of Goa?" The present situation of Goa is not ONLY because Rane is the CM. There are seasoned politicians. They are seasoned in the art of corruption. Parrikar and the BJP MLAs are not paragons of virtue. We have seen their true worth. All these rogues need to be sent to the oblivion of electoral politics. For that Goans need to vote sensibly. It's simple English Dr Barad. Come on. >>Anthony, don't forget the past history of Goa. All >>they brought in was increasing corruption rate in >>Goa and in the past two years the corruption is at >>its all time high'' Going by the trends of congress >>rule in Goa, We also saw big time corruption in the BJP too. >>I feel, we need not give these congress yet another >>five year term. Congress or BJP let's send all the seasoned politicians packing. As Goa Su-raj puts it no second term. That is why we need to vote sensibly. I know even in theory you won't accept that because "the BJP has given us VERY GOOD governance, good work culture and ALL ROUND development." >>"BJP during their maiden opportunity to >>ruleGoa for 4 years brought in communalism but >>equally brought in all round developments in Goa, >>gave very good governance and equally brought in >>good working culture in all government departments. >>Their failure was their Hindutva >>policy/philosophy". If development is at the cost of communalism Dr Barad please spare us development, peace is more important. Unless you don't mind seeing a Gujarat in Goa. Or a Babri at Old Goa. >>Having tasted the fruits of congress governance for >>15 plus years. Now Dr Barad wants us to give the fiery BJP a chance. We have already had the appetisers. The main course could be deadly. Are Goans ready to go for it. >>Lastly I think we all know the correct answers to >>all such questions and much beyond but we are all >>afraid to answer / voice in public and even >>practice the same! Please tell me the correct answers to all 'such questions' you claim to know. >>Regarding Jose Colaco's posting. Let me confess, >>his questions as usual are too high for me to >>answer more over sometimes my answers are somewhat >>harsh and or too offensive at time. Too high. Looks like Dr Colaco questions floored you. Well I thought you are a qualified man. What do you mean too high to answer? Even sometimes, why do you have to be harsh and offensive? >>Floriano Lobo, Bernado Colaco will certainly do >>justice in
[Goanet] Azim H Premji's Article: The Weight Of Wings
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor From:[EDUCATION-INDIA] Mr. Premji's article in Outlook Mr Premji's article was published in the special 'State of the nation' issue of Outlook. Below is the link and attached is the article in MS Word in case you are unable to access the link. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070409&fname=QCol+Azim+Premji+%28F%29&sid=1 Regards, Prakash. ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
[Goanet] Re.: I am your fan, President to Remo
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor The President loves Remo's pop. That's too far-fetched imo. I think the President should take a few tips on the art of flattery. May be just a 'well done' would have been more genuine. I wish I could ask Mr Kalam the name of a Remo number. Tony Martin ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Corrupt Congress!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Does Mr Barad imply that the currupt Congress makes the BJP the automatic choice for the Goans? >>All these charges only go to prove that congress >>leaders are self-centered, uncommitted, dishonest >>and most corrupt. Mr Barad pl wake up to the fact that the above adjectives apply to all the present breed of politicians accross the country. The BJP is a dangerous party? The people who have felt the heat of the communal fires spread by the BJP know it. In Goa the BJP has already given us trailors of what could come. Communal intentions can be disastrous for community living. We have got glimpses of the party's communal intentions. Want a list of that? It could beat the Congress' corruption list. Goans love peace. A threat to the legendary peace that we have known is simply unthinkable for right-thinking people. Any sensible Goan would certainly not want to take any chances with a party that has a history written with the blood of its brothers. Rane's fiefdom should certainly end. Goans need to vote sensibly? ************** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
[Goanet] Goa 'getting cheaper' for investors?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Chanced upon this piece on the following website. http://www.firstrungnow.com/First-Time-Home-Buying-news-Goa+'getting+cheaper'+for+investors--52780 Well now for the facts. A double bedroom flat in Panjim is in the range of 16 to 20 lakhs. In Margao it is 14 to 16 lakhs. You could try the sub-urbs for something less. And something less may be minus 1 or two laks. In places like Cancona double bedroom flat costs between 10 to 13 lakhs. News Goa 'getting cheaper' for investors 03-Apr-2007 In news which may be of interest to first time home buyers looking to buy abroad, Goa is becoming a cheaper location to invest, an expert has claimed. According to Les Calvert from Property Abroad.com, investors - which may include first time home buyers - are attracted to Goa's low-cost properties, in addition to the state being an attractive holiday destination. "It's certainly cheap Goa's the most popular holiday destination and that's where attracts the most enquiries," said Mr Calvert. It's always popular and of interest over the winter period; that's when most people go to Goa," he added. Indeed, a generous two-bedroom apartment can be bought in Goa for £5,500, the firm claims. To find out more about buying a property abroad to get onto the property ladder click here. Located on India's western coast, Goa is the country's fourth-smallest state in terms of population size. ********** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: [Goanet] The Con Grease Party
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Non-performing Rane has ruined Goa in his four tenures as CM. Now his son Vishwajeet is out to destroy Goa for his pleasure and profit. Come what may, these two rogues need to be dumped into the oblivion of politics for Goa to hold a ray of hope amidst clouds of doom. TM ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net *
[Goanet] BJP: Not Communal????????????????
After the demolition of the Babri Masjid besides innumerable atacks and murders of nuns and priests acros India and even priests being paraded naked with baseless allegations, some Rajiv Pratap Rudy of the BJP comes to Goa and tells us Goans that it is unfair to call the BJP communal. This rudy chap is either himself an idiot or thinks all Goans are idiots to fall for his crap. check the link here. http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/27/stories/2007032707701200.htm ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Church under Archaeological Survey of India dadagiri.
UCAN: Archaeology work threatens church monuments, Catholic officials say 3/26/2007 UCANews (www.ucanews.com) OLD GOA, India (UCAN) Church officials in Goa say the federal archaeological department is threatening church monuments in the western Indian state by working haphazardly and secretively. As an example, they cite the accidental discovery of a crypt at the Se Cathedral complex in Old Goa. The Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) staff who made the discovery on Feb. 26 did not inform the church's priests of the find. "I came to know about it almost five days later" when some people complained of dusty benches in the cathedral, Father Leonardo Correia, parish priest of Old Goa, 1,910 kilometers (about 1,185 miles) southwest of New Delhi, told UCA News. The priest explained that a government employee working on underground electrical wiring accidentally broke a stone, revealing a 2.1-meter deep vault. The crypt, with a cross mounted on its wall, contained bones that the priest said may belong to a Portuguese viceroy, governor or bishop. Goa, a Portuguese colony for more than four centuries from 1510, has several 16-century churches and convents. The ASI has taken over several of them, but some of these, such as Se Cathedral, continue as active churches under Goa archdiocese. "This is the bishop's church, a live parish church. This is not a museum," Father Correia asserted. He added that ASI "ought to have the courtesy" to inform him about the works it undertakes within the cathedral. According to Father Correia, ASI also has interfered in parish affairs. Its officials asked him to remove the donation box he had placed in the cathedral, but he said they later relented when told about the Catholic religious practice of making donations during Lent. In another instance, the parish priest recalled that termites had infested a statue of Christ but ASI stopped him from dealing with the problem, saying its workers would do the job. "By the time they attended to it a month had passed by," and later they explained their staff were on holiday, he said. Father Correia is not alone in complaining. Father Savio Baretto, rector of nearby Basilica of Bom Jesus, which houses the relics of St. Francis Xavier, says an illegal temple was allowed to come up just behind his church, in violation of heritage-preservation norms. Construction activity permitted by ASI near other historical landmarks also is a matter of concern. Near Our Lady of Rosary Church, built in 1526, a two-story concrete structure is being built. Father Baretto said that when he asked ASI officials the reasons for granting permission for that construction, they said the application had been pending a long time. "Is this any justification?" he asked. Jesuit Father Moreno de Souza, a member of the basilica staff, admits the Church would have "never been able to maintain the churches on its own." But he condemned ASI for ignoring Church authorities. "Even for the underground electrical wiring they have not sought permission from us," he said. According to reports, ASI now plans to cover the exposed side of the crypt with a transparent fiberglass sheet, illuminating it from inside with an electric light so "hordes of visitors" can see it. Godfrey Gonsalves is among Catholics worried by the agency's behavior. "Is ASI a competent authority to decide on these matters? How can the ASI intervene in religious sentiments of a community with utter disregard for (its leadership)?" he asked while speaking with UCA News. M.K. Jos, who campaigns for social justice, noted that the ASI-Church tussle has lasted for some time. ASI argues that when it took over these monuments in 1965, four years after Goa was liberated from Portuguese colonial rule, the plan was published in the government gazette, giving people a chance to express objections. But no objections were raised. "At that time who read the gazette? And where was it available in Goa?" Jos asked, noting that Goa was then under federal rule, not a state. Countering the various criticisms, N. Taher, ASI deputy superintending archaeologist, said some people are trying to create a wedge between the church and ASI. "We have no problem with the church authorities," he told UCA News. "After all, the ASI, the church and all are stakeholders in our work. Our job is to enhance the conservation of monuments," he said. "If we do not work, the monuments deteriorate. If we work, there are complaints." - - Republished by Catholic Online with permission of the Union of Catholic Asian News (UCA News), the world's largest Asian church news agency (www.ucanews.com). http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=23538 ** An
[Goanet] Self-publishing (reply to Senhor Rangel)
With due respect to the grand daddy of Goan writers
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro I take the liberty to respond to
his last post on goanet.
Well experience may be the greatest teacher. But even
at 80 and more you can be as white as John Locke's
slate on the ground realities of an 'almost' alien
land.
Frederick, I agree with you that sometimes
self->>publishing is the only way for a writer to go
in >>Goa.
That's politeness. Well said. Well taken.
But I strongly feel that it should be the final
option, after the professional (or commercial)
publishing houses have been tried.
Professional houses? Where are they?
Sir, trying commercial houses is easier in the West.
If Arundhati did not live in London would she ever be
the God of small things? Or how about your book
Tivolem published by Milkweed Editions in 1999 and
getting the Milkweed National Fiction Prize. Booklist,
the influential journal of the American Library
Association, also named Tivolem as "one of the twenty
notable first novels" of 1997-98.
Sir you got that not ONLY because you deserved it but
much more because you were conveniently placed to get
it. Do you think you would have got all that
recognition being holed up all your life in a village
in Goa? That can only happen in dreams or massala
Hindi movies.
Often, a commercial house will turn down a
manuscript for a very valid reason: it is badly
written. At the lowest level of bad writing, the
manuscript may be riddled with grammatical errors
and misspellings; at a higher level, the manuscript
may be letter-perfect, but the author may have
nothing worthwhile to say.
There may be a third reason. May be the agent
promoting your book was not good.
Leave alone good or bad, I think finding an agent (the
right agent if you are lucky) is a very important
factor. In Goa you will only find matka agents.:>
Unfortunately, many of us writers are so dazzled by
our own work that we refuse to admit it may not be
worth publishing.
That could be true. But people who hope to strike gold
should be willing to dig a lot of dirt. Agents who
will do that dirty job will only do it for a fortune.
So isn't there every chance that some gems may also go
down the gutter with a lot of trash.
At a workshop I held at the Fundacao Oriente a year
or two ago, the focus was obliquely on
self->>publication; a table was littered with dozens
of
examples of self-published books that suffered
precisely because they had been self-published. The
authors had paid somebody---sometimes the local
printer---a good bit of money,
Good, what was done about the problem?
In Goa we have almost 15 lakh people waitng for
somedoby to come up with a solution to a problem that
was recognised and accepted by 15 lakh people 15 years
ago. So where does Fundacao Oriente or a Victor
Rangel-Ribeiro take us from there?
In many cases, the authors had not bothered to
personally edit and revise their manuscript;
That's absolutely true.
But if it falls far beneath professional standards
in basic matters of language and format, please
don't ask people to pay for it---give it away free.
Who decides the professional standards. I have seen
glossy prints collecting dust and pests at reputed
book stalls. Well imo the only case for giving books
free is if nodoby is willing to buy them despite their
much flaunted professional standard.
In most cases, the book had not been professionally
edited;
Please understand that all writers can't afford the
luxury of the magic touch. Unless a Fundacao Oriente
comes in. btw I wonder what the FO is involved in?
often, the local printer had no proofreader on hand
to look the pages over.
Local printer proof reading is history.
Type in MS word, proofread, edit, set pages in quark
or page maker and pass a CD to the printer. You get
your page as you give it.
With regards and without malice
Tony Martin
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[Goanet] Even stones can hatch!
Did you notice? A lot of stones are being laid all over the state. I even saw a dog watering one that was laid before the last election. The stones would actually fit well in many of the craters on the roads. Or still better if all the stones laid had to hatch they would be so many more voters.:> So much for the Congress. BTW I wonder what happened to the Sanvordem communal riots report. Not that I am very eager to know. Some things are best understood than read or said. What do you say Carmo? Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
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