[Goanet] Cliff Richard and the Shadows

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[Goanet] NYTimes.co: Cashew Juice, the Apple of Pepsi’s Eye

[eric pinto]

 
 
  
Sent by ericpin...@yahoo.com:  
 Cashew Juice, the Apple of Pepsi’s Eye 
By STEPHANIE STROM
While farmers in India once left cashew apples to rot, some are now selling 
them as the source of what Pepsi hopes could be the next coconut water.  
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Re: [Goanet] (no subject)

[eric pinto]

      Fifty million 'Christians' killed each other in two
 'Great' wars.  e.


On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 4:59 AM, Michael fernandes 
 wrote:
 


CHRISTIANS IN CHRIST
I am an Indian, and a Christian am I. My forefathers were
Hindus, of the days gone by.
I am proud of myself, to the land I belong. But can the same
be said, of my forefathers of long?
Sometimes I wonder, and think of those men, why did they
embrace, Christianity then?
Those were the days, in my beloved land; caste system was
rampant, Brahmins held upper hand.
Then there was this man, a great grandfather of mine. Born
may be a Shudra, a low caste of his time.
He may have been born, a Bhil or a Gauddi. Or he may have
belonged, to the tribe of Phans pardi.
He also may have been, a chamar making footwear, For the
high caste people, the Brahmins to wear.
A mali , a potter, a mahaar, or bhandari, A backward class
person, or an adivasi may be.
Harijans and dalits, were unheard of then, He could have
been, a descendent of them.
A low caste Indian, in the Brahmins eye. A frowned upon
untouchable, of the days gone by.
He couldn't go to the temple, he couldn't ever pray. His
shadow couldn't fall on a Brahmin any day.
That was the way, this poor man then lived. Taking all in
his stride, was his fate he believed.
Then there was hope, for this down trodden man. He would
shed the caste tag, along with his clan.
No more would they be known, as Chamar or Bhandari. But
follow Jesus Christ, and Christians they'd be.
They would worship one God, Christ Jesus was the way, And as
brothers and sisters, all together would pray. 
So he with his family, this faith did embrace. And Christ as
the head, in his home found a place.
Slowly the good word, spread far and wide. The high caste
and the low caste, prayed side by side.
The doors of the temple were shut to this man. But the girija ghar became, his 
gateway to
heav'n.
Yes that’s it. We were Hindus, many may be down trodden but
since we have embraced Christianity the Hindu tag does not apply to us anymore.
 
Mog asundi.
MICHAEL FERNANDES

Re: [Goanet] Thanks Goanet.......'The Kadambas, the Royals of south India, Our proud heritage, the secrets of Velliapura'.

[eric pinto]

       Dear Siyona,  the destruction was the work of individual
   colonialists. Many were not ethnic Indians, they were originally
   marauders from Uzbeg country and beyond. Sadly, religion can be used to 
rouse the rabble.  The Moghul Empire spawned satraps
 who were generals with their own ambitions, becoming nawabs
and Nizams. Remember, Gaekwad/Bhonsle/Holkar made conquests
 deep into India, beyond the Maratta homeland.
     If religion mattered, Muslims would not have savaged each other in
Syria and Iraq.     eric.


On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:16 PM, Siyona G Gaunkar  wrote:
 


Thanking You,Goanet for bringing about this discussion within the interested.
Please publish all the writings regarding this matter as it will be very 
productive.
Well wishers and friends who are in contact with me regarding my research,I need
your feed back even more,even in the form of proof reading/spell check too...

'The Kadambas, the Royals of south India, Our proud heritage,The secrets of 
Velliapura'.


Special Thanks to Goan personalities at International level who in spite of 
their busy schedule took time to email me new sources of information without 
which I would have not been able to bring colour to my research and I need them 
even more.

My special thanks to Velim villagers who took me in their homes as their own 
and shared information handed down from generation to generations to 
generations and will be needing them even more over the years as I get deeper 
into this interesting matter. I am expecting  some little co-operation from the 
Velliapura family too.

as brought to my notice ...'the institutions of the Kadambas were destroyed 
that day by the Muslims'

If possible I need more information on this matter to virtually bring it back 
to life in my researchwell wishers and friends kindly note.

Siyona.

Re: [Goanet] Any Goans living in ~ Toledo, Ohio?

[eric pinto]

        The Aldona Noronhas have owned the Deluxe Hotel
  in Bombay's Ballard Estate for eighty years. A family 
  member married Dr. Sydney Fernandes and moved to 
  Toledo forty years ago. It is also home to Mario Goveia
  and his wife Dr. Crystal.
       The Deluxe, where I picked up free meals, was popular
  with Mombasa vacationers who sailed into Bombay on route
  to Goa.
       Mario's friends have fought the Clean Water Act with the 
  same ferocity seen against Obama Care for the poor and handicapped.  
Republican judges gutted the law by allowing
 industry to ignore watershed runoff protection statues.
     They have now wrecked large areas of a huge lake. 
     Shamelessly, the same anti-tax, anti-poor Republicans now
 queue for free government distributed water.



On Monday, August 4, 2014 7:06 AM, Gabe Menezes  wrote:
 


Toledo water crisis: Half a million people without safe drinking water as
toxins contaminate Ohio city supply

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/half-a-million-people-without-water-as-toxins-contaminate-ohio-city-water-supply-9644829.html



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Last Kadamba King (eric pinto)

[eric pinto]

On Monday, July 28, 2014 3:00 AM, Siyona G Gaunkar  wrote:
 


   Not sure of a link to the raja, but will accept a knighthood !
   Good luck to Siyona, she is doing a great job.       eric.

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:
The Kadambas of the Deccan, the Royals of south India, Our proud heritage, the
secrets of Velliapura.


Siyona.

[Goanet] NY Times calls Kashmir Pashtun

[eric pinto]

      We say and spell it Sarswat in Devnagair, but misspell
   it Sarasawat in the Roman script.
       It is a large province in the Afghan state of Kashmir, 
  stolen by Britain, then sold to Gulab, then split into an
  an Indian half and a Pakistan half.


 
 
  
  
 With Taliban’s Revival, Dread Returns to Swat Valley 
By ZIA ur-REHMAN and DECLAN WALSH
Militant violence — and the violence of the army’s response — is rising again 
in the verdant valley in Pakistan where five years ago soldiers supposedly 
banished the extremist element.  
Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://nyti.ms/1lIAveP

[Goanet] Last Kadamba King

[eric pinto]

On Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:12 AM, "MD mmdmello@   wrote
 


  
Someone correct me if I am wrong.

The Kadamba king, Tribhuvanamalla
(Sova (Sovi?) Deva (son of Vishnuchitta) ruled from 1216 to 1238, lost his 
kingdom
when he was defeated by the Yadavas of Devagiri in about 1237-38. His
successor, Shashtadeva or Chattaya Deva III (Yuvaraja Vajradeva’s son) was
assisted by his brother-in-Law Kamadeva to regain his kingdom from the Yadavas.
Shashtadeva or Chattaya Deva III ruled from 1246-1260 and died issueless. (So
he was the last legit Goa Kadamba ruler as his brother in Law Kamadeva was from
Hangal).
Then his brother-in-Law, Kama Deva
took over and ruled from 1260- 1311. His son (name?) must have ruled from 
1311-1328, followed by Beeradeva Varma who ruled from 1328-1340 /4 and his son 
must be Suriya Deva, who had married Venomiah
Devi, daughter of Purandara-raya-Deva, the ruler of Hangal, who died in 1368
and was cremated at Velimpura, the then Kadamba southern capital. 
After the death of Goa Kadamba Beera
Deva Varma (in 1345?), his sons from both his wives claimed the throne but his 
ministers
endorsed his first wife’s son ‘Suriya Deva’ as the legal successor, unhappy
over the endorsement of his half-brother in 1345 called Mohammedans to destroy
the kingdom and there was a sudden attack on the Goa killing the whole royal
family including the half bother’s family (but Venomiah Devi escaped as she was
away at Hangal).
According to Ibn Batuta, the Arab
traveller, father and son invited the Nawab Dejamul-ud-din of Honnavar to
invade Goa in A.D.1344. A viragal (hero-stone) in the ASI Museum at Old Goa,
which according to Rev. Heras is dated A.D. 1354, commemorates the death of
Biravarama’s feudatory chief who died in a sea battle. This Biravarma might
have been the last Goa Kadamba Ruler. If the last known Kadamba king who ruled
Goa for as few as 100 days was known as  “SURIYA- DEVA” (according to stone 
inscription found at Velliapura or
Velliapatnum present day Velim in Salcete, South Goa).    
According to another Kannada stone
inscription from Hangal the only royal family member who survived the 1345
Mohammedan attack was the young Queen of Goa Venomiah-Devi as she was sent away 
to her father’s place in Hangal in observance of religious mourning period due
to the death of her father in law 3 months earlier. Vemomaih Devi was the
daughter of the King Kadamba of Hangal.
According to Mr.Venkatesha Upadhayaya,
a cremation stone of 1396 where Queen Venomaih Devi wife of Kadamba Suriya-Deva
was cremated in Velim by her Nephew Jayesha of Hangal. (This could not be a 
‘Sati’
stone as she died much later than her husband who may have been killed in the
Muslim raid in 1345).
Pilgrims from the neighbouring
villages of Karnataka who visit Velim once a year, a centuries old practice and
as part of the Banavasi festival celebrations to pay their respect to the last
ruler of Hangal, Purandara Raya Deva, father of Venomiah Devi (queen of Suriya
Deva, who was cremated at the Kadamba southern capital Velimpura (present
day Velim in south Goa) in A.D.1368.




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[Goanet] 'Bleeding' Madras.

[eric pinto]

   Another colonial gift to the language !
     The Madras Club was in the news recently when they
 turned away political honchows who turned up wearing
 their lungi skirts.
     My brother took me there to lunch in the early seventies,
 soon after they first admitted non-whites. It was a tea planter
 watering-hole, and south Europeans were not welcome either.
     Junius Menezes, Divar, was the band leader for thirty years.
 He owned all two hundred pianos that existed in the city: one 
 needed to rent one from him, the lease ran a year. A son, Anton,
 was a prominent Calcutta club jazz pianist.
     He had a brother in Bombay who gave me nice break on a 
 precious product in Ballard Estate, whilst our family housed
 a sister in Santa Cruz for forty years - gratis.

Re: [Goanet] Congratulation and hats off to Mr.Vishnu ‘SURIYA’ Wagh, MLA

[eric pinto]

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:55 PM, Count Bonzo of Macau wrote:
 


 Velim in Salcete,
South Goa. According to Mr.Venkatesha Upadhiaya a cremation stone of 1396 where 
 Queen VILMA-
 DEODITA
wife of Kadamba Sonny DAVID cremated in Velim by her Nephew  OZZIE.


After the death of Goa Kadamba Beera Deva
Verma,  his sons from both his wives
claimed the thrown but his  Ministers endorsed his first wife’s son ‘Suriya
Deva’ as the legal successor, unhappy over the endorsement  his half brother in 
1345 called Mohammedans  to destroy the kingdom and there was a sudden attack 
on the Goa killing the whole
royal family including the half bother’s family.


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Dec. 21st 2013. Mr.Venkatesha A. Upadhiaya  today submitted a memorandum to the 
Presidentdemanded to immediately
acquire and save the 12th century, Kadamba Jayakeshi Southern Capital Velimpura
site  located in
present day Velim, South Goa ‘a place of National Interest’ from the possession
of Mrs Ana Emerita, widow of a great Goan, late Roqiue Santana charging her for
constructing on the scared grounds, denying access by locking the compound
gates and playing regional card with the pilgrims from the neighboring villages
of Karnataka who visit Velim once a year
Velimpura cremation ground of Purandarai-Deva the 

 prior to his death in 2007 Roqiue Santana like his
father in Portuguese colonial times always  gave a  warm welcome and supply of
drinking water as a gesture of respect to the Kannada visitors at the site.
Roqiue Santana popularly known as Father of Goa’s Democracy was the local
elected representative to liberated Goa legislative Assembly. “No doubt this
family is Goan, like thousands of Goans they are of Deccan origin too”. Mr.
Upadhiaya said.


 Earlier, a man who
walked up behind the secured gates calling himself the security for the Roqiue
Santana family charged last years pilgrims of criminal mischief, theft and
robbery as important antiques went missing following last Dec. pilgrims visit
and said that the family has moved out of this country and ordered the driver
of the tour bus to get going. Leading the pilgrims Mr. Upadhiaya  82, denied  
the allegation here today in Velim

 Before adopting
Portuguese Catholicism this Velimpura family’s ancestors had given up worship
in their temples for fear of Mohammedan trap, reinvented themselves as Haliyal
timber lords where converted by Orthodox Nasranis of Malabar in early1400’s.
Some of the Syrian origin worship items and anointing oil alabastrons saved by
Upadhiaya’s great grand father and moved to Belgaum while overpowered Timu and 
colonized
Goa. It is a well known historical conclusion that this Christian connection
attracted early Jesuits including Francis Xavier  to visit Velliapura first for 
refreshment
before traveling inland for conversions, he added.



Kadambas the royals of the Deccan our proud heritage/ the secrets of Velliapura

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Goan Recipes

[Eric Pinto]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, eric pinto  wrote:

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> frankie_fer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> In answer to numerous requests………. As always, my services as an expert
> taster are always at your disposal!!
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>  *A fabulous collection of Goan recipes.  Keep it for your
> reference.  Better than most **Goan recipe books…*
> http://www.goaholidayhomes.com/goan-dishes.php
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[Goanet] Fw: Goan Recipes

[eric pinto]

 
collection of Goan recipes.   Better than most recipe books…
>http://www.goaholidayhomes.com/goan-dishes.php
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[Goanet] To enroll

[Eric Pinto]

thanks.

[Goanet] UK Goan butt groper.

[eric pinto]

      He faces four years of hungry times on the moor.
   UK prison food budget now 2 pound sterling a day. Inmates 
   lose weight rapidly on three spoon curry meal rations. Buddy
   will miss the hospital cafeteria. He clearly merited an insanity
   defence.
      Young DM walks around a two-fer: severe retro with Downs' 
   and very bi-polar for which he is medicated. His grandfather
   a manic sociopath. That man's father was a bi-polar psychopath
   who needed to be confined. Young DM groped my wife and me
   when in his teens, so you get the picture.

[Goanet] Making a difference in Assam - wonderful video !

[eric pinto]

    




http://www.wimp.com/plantsforest/

Re: [Goanet] From: ericpin...@yahoo.com Re: Make India drought-proof-CSE's Fortnightly News Bulletin (July 2, 2014)

[eric pinto]

     Summer is here, time for the NJ Turnpike and Florida 
 beckons !  Mostly built in the 1950's and 60's, Carter and
 Goan engineer Patrick De Corla gave us the newest, the 
 east-west Route 78, in the 90's.
       The canal system goes back to the 1880's, under two former
presidents. 
       True, Sind today is Bhutto land. I had in mind the likes of
 Advani, the mandir warrior. For that crew, the slogan is 'never
 forget, never forgive.' His cousins do not finance the long
running feud with Pakistan: rather, they demagogue from
snug perches in Colaba, Juhu, HongKong, London and Las
Palmas. The poor pay for submarines, via Union excise levies
on hundreds of consumer items.
     Every drop of rain could be saved, sent to the Sahara and
the Deccan. Israel covers every inch of land with plastic.
They will be drinking Himalayan water in Beijing,very soon,
as we dehydrate.


On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:25 PM, Jose  wrote:
 


On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Goanet Reformat  wrote:

1: Eisenhower built the mighty Interstate highway system. They built a 1000
 mile canal that brought Great Lake water to the lettuce farms of California, 
using steam shovels in the 1880's. 
2: Roosevelt gave a cheque and medicals to the elderly.
3: Today the military-industrial complex buys elections and stooge senators pay 
for star wars, bombers and aircraft carriers. There is little spending on 
infrastructure.
4: India is held hostage by the Sikh-Jat military mafia. The Sindhi haters want 
the nation to pay the price of their never ending civil war with Muslims.
5: We are caught in the middle: no food, no roads, no hospitals, and certainly 
no lakes/irrigation.
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Dear Eric,

I am not sure if Goanet Reformat made any unintended changes to your script. 
Even so, I would wish to make the following comments to your post as stated:

Re #1: Wonder how
 Eisenhower is connected to the 1880s

Re #2: Intentions apart, I do not believe that you are accurate.

Re #s 3 and 4: (minus the Sindhi-Muslim bit): That is the sad reality of life.
BTW Eric, do you know why the military in Goa get 'duty free' stuff while 
Doctors, Nurses do not? Are the latter group not exposed to dangers.

Re #5: That is not absolutely accurate BUT the sentiment contained therein 
is absolutely true.

jc
BTW2: The vast majority of Sindhis who live in Pakistan are Muslims.

[Goanet] Finally, find out: was the zero really reinvented...

[eric pinto]

  Finally, find out: was the zero really reinvented in India? 
A new collection of essays examines the most popular stories Indians tell each 
other about the nation's history.  


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[Goanet] : Goan Surnames

[eric pinto]

 enlightening   blog  on Goan  surnames.  While Hindus shortened family names, 
Catholics expanded their own


By Valmiki Faleiro.
>
>We checked Goan Hindu Brahmin (GSB) surnames last Sunday. Let us today look at 
>those of other castes … and how GSBs warded off threats to their surname 
>identities! The most common non-GSB surnames across Salcete were Chatim (a 
>corruption of Xette/Shetty, used by Kshatriyas, Vanis and goldsmiths), Garo 
>(Gaad) and Naique(Naik). Others: Gamso (Gauns), Gorvy (Gurav), Guto, 
>Poll/Pollo (Pol), Porto, Qurov(Kudav), Saunto (Sawant), Sucaro (Sukdow) and 
>Vangari. Some exceptional Vanissported the surname ‘Gawde’ – a pre-Aryan Goan 
>tribe name. Difficult to digest how that came about. Surnames of ‘lower’ 
>classes, generally, were names of their tribe, caste or occupation. As if 
>branded on their foreheads. The tribal name of Goa’s first inhabitants, Mhars, 
>became their ‘untouchable’ surname. Gavdo (Gawde) was a caste-based surname, 
>like equivalents Zalmi or Velip. So also ‘Gonvlli,’ the tribal name of the 
>pastoral tribes.The surname of barbers
 was Mhalo (Nabik in the Marathicized regions of north Goa), denoting the 
occupation. A class of skilled workmen were Charis. Chanekar, Gadekar,Ghodekar, 
Kansar, Kumbhar, Pagi were occupation based surnames.
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>As the so-called ‘lower’ classes emancipated, they began to take recourse to 
>various means to hide their caste identity. The easiest way was to replace 
>their caste surname with that of their village. Traditionally, only GSBs 
>appended the village name to the surname, as in Nayak-Sancoalkar or 
>Poy-Raiturcar. Other castes now began using them as surnames. Devllis (temple 
>servants), ‘devadasis’ or Kalavants (dancers who swirled into whoring) began 
>calling themselves Pednekars, until then a highly regarded category of 
>Pernem’s GSBs. Humble ‘Mhars’ renamed themselves Gaunkar, which, indeed, they 
>were! Thus began a delectable confusion of caste identities via surnames. It 
>would not be an exaggeration to say that a bulk of non-GSB Goan Hindu surnames 
>today end in “kar” – and that most of these are after village names. They 
>reveal neither caste nor occupation. Which, at least to the uninitiated, is 
>confusion confounded…
>
>A ‘Borkar’ could either be a GSB from Borim (as in Varde Borkar), or a 
>Naik-Bhandarihailing from the same village. A ‘Gaunkar’ could be either a GSB 
>(as in ‘Pai Gaunkar’)or a thoroughbred Kshatriya Maratha, or from any of the 
>pre-Aryan original settlers of the village way down the caste hierarchy. 
>‘Kerkar’ could glide from the purest GSBs up to temple dancers. ‘Redkar’ 
>actually spans the spectrum from GSBs to cobblers. ‘Sardesai’ could be a GSB 
>or a SattariKshatriya. ‘Chodankar’ could similarly be a GSB, or a goldsmith, 
>or a Vani, or a Naik-Bhandari, or even a fisherman! Interestingly, goldsmiths 
>who call themselves Daivadnya Brahmins, adopted surnamesin parallel with GSB 
>ones. A ‘Lotlikar’ could be a GSB or a goldsmith. ‘Desai,’ chiefly aKshatriya 
>surname, applies to GSBs and even a rare goldsmith. ‘Shirodkar’ and ‘Kavlekar’ 
>similarly traverse caste divides. ‘Shirodkar’ ranges from arare GSB or a
 not-so-rare goldsmith, or even a Bhandari from Shiroda. ‘Raikar’ couldbe a 
GSB, Vani or goldsmith. ‘Vernekar’ could be GSB or goldsmith. ‘Verlekar’ 
though, like Nagvenkar, Karekar and Revankar, are generally goldsmith domain 
surnames.‘Madkaikar’, another golden surname, however, could swing between a 
goldsmith and a gawda. “Naik” must be the most common surname across the board. 
It encompasses a broadcanvas: from Kashmiri Muslims (yes, Muslims), GSBs, 
Kshatriyas, Vanis, Bhandaris –and at least two Catholic (Jesuit) priests I 
know! An archived baptismal certificate says,“On 8-9-1734, Ganeça Naique 
(Ganesh Naik), of caste Charado (Kshatriya)…”
>
>From aRegister of Burials at the College of St. Paul: “The said Baygem Xette 
>belonged to the caste Vani or Vaixya…” An entry in the Deaths Register of the 
>Catechumenal House of Betim, “On 31-8-1783, died Jeronimo, known as Madu 
>Naique, of caste Bandari.” Also:“On 22-3-1759 was baptized Maria or Neuguem, 
>of the caste sudra…” Faced with increasing mistaken identities, GSBs quietly 
>fought back. They resorted to reusing their distinct spelling forms (like 
>Nayak for Naik, Bhandare for Bhandari,Chodnekar for Chodankar) and prefixes of 
>Shenvi (Sinai) and Pai (Poi) – as in Sinai Dempo or Poi Palondikar – that were 
>long in disuse. But the Naik-Sancoalkars of Vithalwadi-Comba, Margao, who ages 
>ago had migrated when their native Sancoale was ravaged by plague – and who 
>had since dropped the ‘Sancoalkar’ appendage –refused to revert back to their 
>former surname style: they were too well-known to bemistaken with other Naiks!
>
>Other GSBs with distinct surnames difficult to ape, abbreviated them. As in 
>the case of Rajadhyax-Nagarcenkars from Nagarcem-Canacona. Many dropped the 
>‘Nagarcenkar’appendix. As in Sh

[Goanet] VACANCY INFO

[eric pinto]

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[Goanet] Moomba Magic.

[eric pinto]

          At the end of the day, Rolly, it is not the Hafeez Contractors
  but the Khooda hafeez gods in the form of Pawar and Thackray
  who transformed the city.
          We have no infrastructure to speak of courtesy of mister ten
  billion Swiss dollar 1980's CM Pawar. He vacuumed us clean.  As
  Defence bully, he would have pilfered a million acres of army
  cantonment had the Press had not made a rare expose. 
         The Thackray clan used fifty cent hit-men to murder mill owners
  into submission. They are now the biggest owners of expensive
  turf in Worli and Bandra.
         Reliance and Hiranadani are very much a part of the mob. They
  could, if they chose to, level a city of two storey tenements and
  rebuild for the rich, the middle and the dispossed: but that is not
  fast money.    eric.

Re: [Goanet] Global Goans: Squandering opportunities for state and country

[eric pinto]

  The Menezes insinuation is accurate, sadly.  Our achievers
 abroad are seen as interlopers, as best, traitors as worse.
    'True' Indians in similar situations are feted.


On Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:35 AM, Gabe Menezes  wrote:
 


A Goan CEO for Portugal?


*http://tinyurl.com/ljauf9a *

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Our West Coast - An early visitor.

[eric pinto]

     Afanasy Nikitin made land in 1469, at Alibagh, just south
 of Bombay. A Russian, he had sailed out of Oman six weeks
earlier, on a voyage that covered the Malabar coast.
     An impressive monument to him now stands in Revdanda
town, built jointly by Russia and the Government of Maharashtra.
     Nikitin had visited Gulbarga and Vijay Nagar, but made no
apparent effort to act on his nation's Saracen phobia !   eric.

Re: [Goanet] purchase of book

[eric pinto]

Hi KIt,  Nice memories of Dolly Lobo and Bobby.
I operated the Dr. Francis Heredia clinic for six months when he was terminally 
ill.  John hit me 
for 50K green over 20 years at the Heras. I also
created the Roque Inter-Religion with 10K after
his death.
     The 'book' is a review, I am one of many contributors.
      Enjoy it.   Eric.


On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:48 AM, Kit Heredia  wrote:
 


Dear Sirs,

I would like to buy two copies of the book"Bomboicar'  by Reena Martins.
Please let me know if you could mail it to me by VPP to my address at:



C.A. Heredia,

'SAUDADES',

19, Primeiro Vaddo,

Divar,

Goa -403403

Tel: 98221 79961



Thanking you,



Yours faithfully,



C.A. Heredia

[Goanet] Dust in the works - your desktop.

[eric pinto]

   When mine flopped recently, I thought I
 faced a trip to the dump.
   Turns out it was a case of dust build up,
 large hair-like clumps driven in by the fan.
   A friend opened the outer case, then detached 
 a flat glass piece - about five inches - and wiped
 it clean. It must hold a circuit. 
    A ten minute job.   eric.

[Goanet] More on Cavel, Bomoi. Thanks, Rolly.

[eric pinto]

   From Portuguese India,  1498-1739.
  By Luis Assis Correia.
       In Bombaim, the village of Cavel was the 
first centre of Christianity. Cavel is the Portuguese
rendition of Kolwar 'a Koli hamlet,' inhabited by thye Koli tribe, who were 
converted by the Franciscans.
Through their education, they served in the Portuguese administration, and 
after the cession of Bombaim to the English in 1665, became servants
to the East India Company.
   Their parish church was Nossa Senhora de Saude
on the Esplanade: it helped our school cricket, Rolly
A second church, Esperenca, was built at Buleshvar. Two more followed , Miguel 
at Mahim and Salvacao at Dadar. The one at Parel was turned into a residence 
for the English Governor of Bombay.
  In 1772 a East India Company decree directed all 
Portuguese priests to "remove themselves from the Island of Bombay." Governor 
Charles Boone closed all Catholic schools. Franciscan educated Luso-Indians 
then educated the poor in their homes.
  Padre Francisco Xavier visited the city in 1544. The second was in 1548.
  Simao Botelho notes that "Mombaym" was alloted to one Mestre Diogo for only a 
few pardaos in quit-rent to the Royal Treasury in 1544. In 1548, it was granted 
to Garcia da Orta who had been the physician to the Viceroy Dom
Mascarenhas in Goa.

[Goanet] FR. Frazer Mascarenhas.

[eric pinto]

      So Socrates provoked a discussion, and some !
      I am concerned for students at the college:
 I see job resumes dropped in a bin with added relish, by the likes of Ambani.  
 eric.
-
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:03 PM, Jimmy de Corla 
>
>
> 
>In the background of Elections
>What is human development?
> 
>The approaching elections have brought an interesting discussion to the public 
>forum on what constitutes human development and how it is to be achieved. The 
>Gujarat model has been highlighted for our consideration. That is very apt 
>because it puts in stark contrast two current views. Is the growth of big 
>business, the making of huge profits the achievement of high production – what 
>we seek? Or is it the quality of life for the majority in terms of affordable 
>basic goods and services and the freedom to take forward the cultural 
>aspirations of our plural social groups that make up India?
>
>
>Gujarat may be doing well in the first sense, although not as good as some 
>other States in the country. But all the Human Development Index indicators 
>and the cultural polarization of the population show that Gujarat has had a 
>terrible experience in the last 10 years. Take the example of education: 
>schools for the ordinary populace show abject neglect with a very high dropout 
>rate in the last 10 years. Higher Education has not been allowed to move 
>forward. 
>
>
>To take just an example, St. Xavier’s College Ahmedabad, thrice NAAC 
>accredited with an equivalent of the A grade, has not been able to gain 
>permission from the Gujarat Government for Academic Autonomy, for the last 10 
>years and has finally won a battle in the High Court to approach the UGC 
>directly for this status. Gujarat has also been the worst performer in 
>settling claims and distributing title deeds to tribal people and other forest 
>dwellers, as shown by the latest data put out by the Union Tribal Affairs 
>Ministry. Till 2013, the State, with 15 percent tribal population, settled 
>only 32 per cent of the claims, the lowest rate in the country. 
>
>
>As opposed to this, efforts like the Rojgar Yojana and the Food Security Act 
>have been  called “election sops”. However some of our best social scientists 
>like Amartya Sen and Jean Dreze have supported these as necessary in the 
>emergency economic situation  the country and the world is facing. The country 
>is grateful that committed activists like Aruna Roy and Shailesh Gandhi have 
>worked with the Government to initiate and sustain the Right to Information 
>Act which makes accountability possible. Corruption still needs to be 
>addressed effectively but since it is so prevalent at every level of society, 
>it will take civil society long agonizing efforts to root it out.
>
>
>A massive investment in health and education is sorely needed in our country 
>of widening disparities and those who support big business and its unethical 
>profits will never agree to such public expenditure for the masses. In fact, 
>the worsening situation of environmental degradation and depletion, in the 
>lunge for growth and profit, shows up the real intentions of the greedy. None 
>can withstand this, as seen by the many clearances given in a week’s time 
>after the recent change of guard at the Central Environment Ministry, which 
>had earlier tried to hold the line under a different Minister.
>
>
>So what lessons does a reflection on the approaching elections teach us? The 
>prospect of an alliance of corporate capital and communal forces coming to 
>power constitutes a  real threat to the future of our secular democracy. 
>Support for people who pledge to work to take Human Development Indicators 
>higher and who commit themselves to a pluralistic culture in diverse India – 
>this is the hope for the future. No magic wand or divine miracles will come to 
>the aid of the Indian people. Their reasoned choice of individuals and 
>political parties who promise to work for a real quality of life for all, will 
>see India prosper or flounder on the precipice. Choose well!
>
>
>Dr. Frazer Mascarenhas S.J.
>Principal
>

[Goanet] FR. Frazer Mascarenhas.

[eric pinto]

On Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:38 PM, eric pinto  wrote:
 
      So Socrates provoked a discussion, and some !
      I am concerned for students at the college:
 I see job resumes dropped in a bin with added relish, by the likes of Ambani.  
 eric.
-
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:03 PM, Jimmy de Corla 
>
>
> 
>In the background of Elections
>What is human development?
> 
>The approaching elections have brought an interesting discussion to the public 
>forum on what constitutes human development and how it is to be achieved. The 
>Gujarat model has been highlighted for our consideration. That is very apt 
>because it puts in stark contrast two current views. Is the growth of big 
>business, the making of huge profits the achievement of high production – what 
>we seek? Or is it the quality of life for the majority in terms of affordable 
>basic goods and services and the freedom to take forward the cultural 
>aspirations of our plural social groups that make up India?
>
>
>Gujarat may be doing well in the first sense, although not as good as some 
>other States in the country. But all the Human Development Index indicators 
>and the cultural polarization of the population show that Gujarat has had a 
>terrible experience in the last 10 years. Take the example of education: 
>schools for the ordinary populace show abject neglect with a very high dropout 
>rate in the last 10 years. Higher Education has not been allowed to move 
>forward. 
>
>
>To take just an example, St. Xavier’s College Ahmedabad, thrice NAAC 
>accredited with an equivalent of the A grade, has not been able to gain 
>permission from the Gujarat Government for Academic Autonomy, for the last 10 
>years and has finally won a battle in the High Court to approach the UGC 
>directly for this status. Gujarat has also been the worst performer in 
>settling claims and distributing title deeds to tribal people and other forest 
>dwellers, as shown by the latest data put out by the Union Tribal Affairs 
>Ministry. Till 2013, the State, with 15 percent tribal population, settled 
>only 32 per cent of the claims, the lowest rate in the country. 
>
>
>As opposed to this, efforts like the Rojgar Yojana and the Food Security Act 
>have been  called “election sops”. However some of our best social scientists 
>like Amartya Sen and Jean Dreze have supported these as necessary in the 
>emergency economic situation  the country and the world is facing. The country 
>is grateful that committed activists like Aruna Roy and Shailesh Gandhi have 
>worked with the Government to initiate and sustain the Right to Information 
>Act which makes accountability possible. Corruption still needs to be 
>addressed effectively but since it is so prevalent at every level of society, 
>it will take civil society long agonizing efforts to root it out.
>
>
>A massive investment in health and education is sorely needed in our country 
>of widening disparities and those who support big business and its unethical 
>profits will never agree to such public expenditure for the masses. In fact, 
>the worsening situation of environmental degradation and depletion, in the 
>lunge for growth and profit, shows up the real intentions of the greedy. None 
>can withstand this, as seen by the many clearances given in a week’s time 
>after the recent change of guard at the Central Environment Ministry, which 
>had earlier tried to hold the line under a different Minister.
>
>
>So what lessons does a reflection on the approaching elections teach us? The 
>prospect of an alliance of corporate capital and communal forces coming to 
>power constitutes a  real threat to the future of our secular democracy. 
>Support for people who pledge to work to take Human Development Indicators 
>higher and who commit themselves to a pluralistic culture in diverse India – 
>this is the hope for the future. No magic wand or divine miracles will come to 
>the aid of the Indian people. Their reasoned choice of individuals and 
>political parties who promise to work for a real quality of life for all, will 
>see India prosper or flounder on the precipice. Choose well!
>
>
>Dr. Frazer Mascarenhas S.J.
>Principal
>

[Goanet] Fr Frazer Mascarenhas

[eric pinto]

      So Socrates provoked a discussion, and some !
      I am concerned for students at the college:
 I see job resumes dropped in a bin with added relish, by the likes of Ambani.  
 eric.
-
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:03 PM, Jimmy de Corla 
>
>
> 
>In the background of Elections
>What is human development?
> 
>The approaching elections have brought an interesting discussion to the public 
>forum on what constitutes human development and how it is to be achieved. The 
>Gujarat model has been highlighted for our consideration. That is very apt 
>because it puts in stark contrast two current views. Is the growth of big 
>business, the making of huge profits the achievement of high production – what 
>we seek? Or is it the quality of life for the majority in terms of affordable 
>basic goods and services and the freedom to take forward the cultural 
>aspirations of our plural social groups that make up India?
>
>
>Gujarat may be doing well in the first sense, although not as good as some 
>other States in the country. But all the Human Development Index indicators 
>and the cultural polarization of the population show that Gujarat has had a 
>terrible experience in the last 10 years. Take the example of education: 
>schools for the ordinary populace show abject neglect with a very high dropout 
>rate in the last 10 years. Higher Education has not been allowed to move 
>forward. 
>
>
>To take just an example, St. Xavier’s College Ahmedabad, thrice NAAC 
>accredited with an equivalent of the A grade, has not been able to gain 
>permission from the Gujarat Government for Academic Autonomy, for the last 10 
>years and has finally won a battle in the High Court to approach the UGC 
>directly for this status. Gujarat has also been the worst performer in 
>settling claims and distributing title deeds to tribal people and other forest 
>dwellers, as shown by the latest data put out by the Union Tribal Affairs 
>Ministry. Till 2013, the State, with 15 percent tribal population, settled 
>only 32 per cent of the claims, the lowest rate in the country. 
>
>
>As opposed to this, efforts like the Rojgar Yojana and the Food Security Act 
>have been  called “election sops”. However some of our best social scientists 
>like Amartya Sen and Jean Dreze have supported these as necessary in the 
>emergency economic situation  the country and the world is facing. The country 
>is grateful that committed activists like Aruna Roy and Shailesh Gandhi have 
>worked with the Government to initiate and sustain the Right to Information 
>Act which makes accountability possible. Corruption still needs to be 
>addressed effectively but since it is so prevalent at every level of society, 
>it will take civil society long agonizing efforts to root it out.
>
>
>A massive investment in health and education is sorely needed in our country 
>of widening disparities and those who support big business and its unethical 
>profits will never agree to such public expenditure for the masses. In fact, 
>the worsening situation of environmental degradation and depletion, in the 
>lunge for growth and profit, shows up the real intentions of the greedy. None 
>can withstand this, as seen by the many clearances given in a week’s time 
>after the recent change of guard at the Central Environment Ministry, which 
>had earlier tried to hold the line under a different Minister.
>
>
>So what lessons does a reflection on the approaching elections teach us? The 
>prospect of an alliance of corporate capital and communal forces coming to 
>power constitutes a  real threat to the future of our secular democracy. 
>Support for people who pledge to work to take Human Development Indicators 
>higher and who commit themselves to a pluralistic culture in diverse India – 
>this is the hope for the future. No magic wand or divine miracles will come to 
>the aid of the Indian people. Their reasoned choice of individuals and 
>political parties who promise to work for a real quality of life for all, will 
>see India prosper or flounder on the precipice. Choose well!
>
>
>Dr. Frazer Mascarenhas S.J.
>Principal
>

[Goanet] Nehru and Menon

[eric pinto]

    JC - The Moraes 'book' describes the early careers of the three young 
  law graduates - Nehru, Menon and Frank. It took them to the law
  'clinic' of the Communist member of parliament, Saklatvala, where
  they catered to the poor of the East End.
    Frank also spent time in the Jinnah law office. He had happened 
 to attend a public meeting of a Muslim group that ended with a call
 for the creation a Muslim homeland in India. Jinnah had laughed 
 at the concept, and called them names: we know all about irony.
    Eugene: if you insist, I will return to NY and get you book's name 
 and page numbers !   
    I have read elsewhere that our buddy donned sarees at dorm parties
 of that very 'special' fraternity. eric.
   

From: Jose Colaco <  

Where was is that Nehru and Menon likely met first?

When would that be?

[Goanet] Goanet - Gracias and Goa.

[eric pinto]

  That outback hemp must be potent !
 If you must know, he was born and raised in Karachi.

From: Oscar Carmino Lobo


Where was Cardinal Gracias raised and educated?

If in Mumbai, he would have played a role in the so called "liberation"
with the
backing of his parishioners.

Political gain after all.

Oscar Lobo



Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:31:15 +0530
From: "floriano lobo" 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list,estb. 1994!"
        
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Gracias and Goa
Message-ID: <39E9AC23B92E477BB57FC96EF5EE310B@home>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

Nehru's confidence, indeed.
That is why Cardinal Gracias never thought of holding Nehru to his promises
to Goa.  Indeed helped him to bundle Goa into India, lock stock and barrel
without any safeguards. Today Cardinal Gracias would be honoured by Goans if
Special Status for Goa was demanded and attained immediately  after the so
called liberation. Goa is still slogging on this issue after 52  years. So
much for Nehru's confidence that he enjoyed.
It is said that:
'APNACHI PAILI BORLI MUNTOCH PURO. DUSRE  ANINK KITENCH PODONK NAM."
Self-Centered GODMEN!
Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
"

[Goanet] Gracias and Goa

[eric pinto]

 The Cardinal was outspoken in his support of a free Goa,
  and he had Nehru's confidence.
    We expect he remembered Salazar's attempt to block his
  appointment and name his own man to succeed Roberts.
    Nehru had reminded Lisbon that aliens needed an Indian 
  visa to enter: they got the message.    eric.

[Goanet] Nehru and Menon

[eric pinto]

    Eugene - I am a long way from NY, where the book sits on
  a shelf.   Menon and Nehru were lovers: end of story.
  Menon did not have a Delhi home. The two were in criminal
  violation of statutes that govern sexual relations in India.
    The book in contention was yet another. I cannot remember
  the title.
    I was out in the streets when we worked very hard to defeat
  Menon.  Our local Swatantra unit had played spoiler.   eric.

From: Eugene Correia 

[Goanet] Xavier lunch.

[eric pinto]

  Fr. Terassa, yesterday, now 82. The last of the Mohicans, we were 
   on the soccer ground once!  Visit, Steve has restored the pretty lobby.
   Dad's punt was played out on Dalal Street ! I remember yours'.
   Grand dad would actually end up in Kandahar. His 'pilfers' helped
    get his nephew working on the Thomas School startup in Aldona.  
   It will be the Willingdon Turf today. Steve's twist of the lock was
    twenty lacs: a long way from Castle Hotel, where I still feel quite
    at home.   eric.

From: roland.francis


Eric, I did not realize that your connection with the Xaviers school in Bombay 
extended to three generations. What I did know is that you are one of the 
school's most munificent modern day benefactors.

Another amazing fact gleaned from your post is that if your grandfather 
schooled there circa 1914, it means that his parents (your great grand parents) 
were Bombay residents at that time. While that was not exactly pioneering,  
since Goans went there before that, your family must have long preceded the 
bulk of the Goan passage to Bombay which took place in the forties.

Aldona to Singapore, Dubai, New York and Bangalore where the current Pintos 
find themselves and in your case back at Aldona, must be remarkable transitions 
with many interesting incidents.

My father Richard knew yours, Martin, very well. Wonder where their connection 
occured. Surely not on the stands of the horse tracks of the Royal Western 
India Turf Club? 

Rolly.


Sent from Samsung Mobile

[Goanet] District Attorneys

[eric pinto]

  They do not answer to their two superiors, the Attorney General (Law 
Minister) 
    and the governor.  One DA sent Nixon's Attorney Gen., Mitchell, to prison.
    The DA of New York State prosecuted the last governor and forced him 
    to resign.
   Numerous members of the clergy are now serving terms. Canon Law may
    have come to their rescue in Lisbon and Madrid where the Church is the 
    official religion of State.   eric.
--
On 22 January 2014 11:53, Tim de Mello  wrote:
"Defrocking priests involved in pedophilia is not sufficient. They comitted
criminal offences and need to be tried and punished accordingly.
Canon Law just shields these priests from public prosecution.

[Goanet] Agony and Ecstasy - Priests.

[eric pinto]

    Rolly, at the school today, stared at the old German portraits:
 There with their grace, go I.  And you.  Some of it hurts.
 Dear old Hetting was Dutch, as was Gense. They escaped the 1914 
 deportations. eric.

From: roland.francis 
Subject: [Goanet] Defrocked Priests


The recent news that Benedict has defrocked 387 priests in the past two years 
is another shocking episode in the never-ending Catholic Church saga.

The figure is much higher if you read the ABC news link shown below that 
outlines the procedure that has allowed many more to slip through the cracks 
and thus avoid the church's maximum punishment.

Figures and incidents of such priests involved in sexual abuse and pedophilia 
are not  publicly known for Goa, while in Kerala abuse of nuns by priests has 
been well reported and written about by some victims themselves.

Are we Goans above such scandals or just too ashamed to expose them.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21576293

Roland.



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[Goanet] World War 1914, and the years roll on.

[eric pinto]

 I was glued to a wall plaque at St. Xavier's School today:
   1914  Cosmos Damian Pinto
   1931  Martin Pinto
   1972  Errol Pinto
    Now if only Chacha could render 2014 to a one, solo, mono-war 
    Anno of our Domino, just one little one, please !    
    Historians CD and Martin would rest easy, as they rest away.    eric.
From: Tim de Mello <

1914?

> From: alfredtavares
>> A VERY HAPPY PROSPEROUS PEACEFUL GREEN 1914 A.D. to all of You,
> dear dear Boys& Girls...of course...

> 
> Mallya's antics remind me of the notorious Austrian "baron" Victor Lustig, 
> ranking amongst the best of his peers, who put in a daring bid to buy the 
> Eiffel tower for scrap & got away with it.

> 
> > On 16 January 2014 15:33, eric pinto  wrote:
> > 
> > >                I am  To throw caution to the
> > >      wind with the stakes he employed only points to a mind that
> > >      was not functioning rationally: imagine, he placed his homes
> > >      and the UBS cash cow in collateral  jeopardy.    eric.
> > >
    From Gabe:
> > > COMMENT: to complicate things attempting to sell part of The U.B. to
> > > Diageo but this too has hit hurdles.
> > >
> > >
>                         

[Goanet] Menon and Nehru

[eric pinto]

   Much influence over live-in lover, yes, unilateral campaign, no.
    Nehru had summoned his Cambridge companion, Frank Moraes,
    to Delhi, and categorically asked him if he could count on the 
    support of Bombay's Catholic intelligentsia for the military move.
    Moraes claims in his book that his reply was an unequivocal yes.
  I believe Franks account. In the same book, he uses the 
    euphemistic term 'effeminate duo' to describe the Nehru-Menon
    relationship. He would call a spade a spade.
 If you looking for something sordid, consider the Mountbatten
    odour. He belonged to the same gay underground at Cambridge and 
    owed his friends more then 'one.' He had defied London and given
    Gurdaspur to India, leaving him the corridor he needed for an 
    invasion of Hari Singh's Kashmir.  His RAF transported Hari to
    Delhi, a virtual prisoner.
    Edwina was a lesbian, a biographer's claim made ten years ago,
    which the family has refused to refute.    eric.

From: Dan Driscoll <


If I may put in a word: My understanding has been that Krishna Menon was
Nehru's Defence Minister, and that he more or less unilaterally took the
initiative of launching a military campaign (by land and sea) to end the
Colonial Regime in Goa; Nehru is claimed by some commentators to have read
of the 'Goan Invasion' in the newspapers, and that he was deeply troubled.

I'm not well informed on what local sentiment might have been at that time,
but having had a keen minded Goan-girl spouse, and domiciled in Goa through
a lengthy retirement sojourn, I would be most interested in anything that
comes here concerning that 'liberation-era' of Goan History.

Was Menon a devil, or guardian angel in disguise?  'Depends on one's point
of view', doubtless; but to what degree have views (both pro & con, and
shuttled back and forth) come to a final balance point?

Jacob wrestled through the night with 'an angel', and came out of it
'wounded in the thigh'! But, lived to see another day.

The discussion is a worthy one; but we should not think of Krishna Menon as
'a gent'. Let's at least capitalize the 'g'.



On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Joe Lobo  wrote:

>  Folks,
>  I  apologise for  my  error  calling  Krishna Menon the  foreign
> minister.  Perhaps  he  was  the  Defence Ministerwhich  would  make
> his  neglect of  preparedness  unforgivable ?
> - Original Message - From: "J. Colaco < jc>" 
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Remembering a luminary
>
>
>  On 18 January 2014 11:10, Joe Lobo  wrote:
>>
>>  Was  not  this  the  gent , who  while Foreign Minister  of
>> India..?.ignored the  Chinese  Threat  on the NEFA  border,  with  his
>> protestations of  "  Hindi- Chinee  bhai, bhai "  whilst  they slaughtered
>> hundreds  of  WW-1  Lee  Enfield ancient  rifle toting  indian  soldiers
>> as
>> they  pushed  southwards  across the  McMahon  line  which  was  a hazy
>> undermarcated border left  as  a Brit  legacy "
>>
>>
>> COMMENT:
>>
>> 1: Krishna Menon was NEVER the Foreign Minister of India
>>
>> 2: What caught my attention in that article is that this ostensible
>> Leftist, while a High Commissioner to the UK, rode around in a Rolls Royce
>> presented to him by Nehru.
>>
>> jc
>>
>>
>

Re: [Goanet] The Flight And Fall Of Kingfisher Airlines

[eric pinto]

               I am reminded of the French Candian who appeared
      out of nowhere with a bid for the giant retail chain, Macys.
              He borrowed billions, even as the Wall Street Journal
      claimed that cash flow in the best of times would not cover
      payments. The US was then in a prolonged Reagan recession,
      induced by tax cuts that gutted the budget and nation.
              Macys filed for bankruptcy protection just two years later.
              The buyer was diagnosed with manic-depressive illness
      and hospitalised. The Mallya spectacle is a text-book case
      of things going wrong in similar fashion. To throw caution to the
      wind with the stakes he employed only points to a mind that
      was not functioning rationally: imagine, he placed his homes
      and the UBS cash cow in collateral  jeopardy.    eric.




On Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:23 AM, roger dsouza  wrote:
 
*The Flight And Fall Of Kingfisher Airlines*

Jan. 14--The first time the world's biggest passenger aircraft, the Airbus
A380, landed in India in 2007 it happened to be flying in Air Deccan's
founder G.R. Gopinath from the French city of Toulouse.

It was meant to be a grand show -- put up by none other than Kingfisher
Airlines Ltd's Vijay Mallya, the sole Indian buyer of the $300 million
super jumbo jet made by the Toulouse-based Airbus.

With its premium service, Kingfisher was then the toast of the aviation
world, and the nation's rich and famous, including leading politicians,
descended on Delhi airport for a joyride on Mallya's personal invitation.

By contrast, Air Deccan, the low-cost airline where passengers had to pay
for their sandwiches and make a run for seats like in a school bus, was
then struggling for funds.

At a press conference called to showcase the same A380, Mallya had
announced he was interested in buying Deccan. Indeed, it was "imminent", he
declared, taking reporters who had packed an aircraft hangar in Delhi
airport's blistering heat, by surprise.

The news made headlines and Deccan's Gopinath -- like Mallya, a Bangalorean
-- was furious.

"We are from different planets; he is from Venus, I am from Mars," Gopinath
said, as he got off the A380 with Airbus global sales chief John Leahy and
its then India head Kiran Rao.

"We are from the opposite ends of the business spectrum, consumer models
and consumer space. We are mining the bottom of the pyramid, he is picking
the cream off the top. They can't co-exist. One airline will only kill the
other."

Yet, only a few months later, as investors piled on pressure, he sold
Deccan to Kingfisher, saying it was in the best interests of the airline.

The two airlines were then merged, even though Gopinath had said they would
operate separately -- one a premium and the other a low-cost service.

Mallya had overruled him.

Five years later, Gopinath's dire prediction, it seemed, had come true --
Kingfisher grounded its operations in October 2012 after limping on for a
year and posting record losses.

Since then the airline has insisted it is on the verge of securing
financing but this has failed to materialize, prompting unpaid employees to
go on hunger strikes.

On Monday, Kingfisher appeared to have lost all hopes of a revival after
being slapped with global damnation. Leahy, speaking at Airbus'
internationally televised annual forecast of sales, said the manufacturer
had cancelled Kingfisher's orders for five A380s, as also a similar number
of A350 long-haul jets.

"The Kingfisher order -- not all of it was cancelled, there are still some
single aisles. Speaking with Mallya, he is still determined to sell the
airline; he has an operating certificate. But even if he does sell the
airline, we took the decision internally here that he probably does not
need the A380s just right now so we are taking them out of the order book
along with the A350s," said the man who had flown on the first Airbus A380
sortie to Delhi.

Kingfisher was the only airline selected for this tone during the
one-and-a-half hour press conference, which could make it difficult for it
to lease any aircraft from the international market.

On Monday, 2005 must have seemed a long way off to Kingfisher.

Kingfisher ordered all sorts of planes when the good times began rolling in
2005, including the four-engine long-haul jet Airbus A340 to connect the
two silicon valleys, San Francisco and Bangalore.

Typically, airlines order one or two class of planes to save on spare part,
engineering and manpower costs.

But, like the A380 which never found full Kingfisher colours, the A340 too
remained on ground for months, costing the company millions of rupees in
rent.

It never even made a commercial flight, and some joked that its stylish
fittings, including in its toilets, made the planes too heavy to fly
non-stop between Bangalore and San Francisco.

Eventually, Airbus had to find buyers in Africa to redirect the Airbus A340
assets there.

This was just the start of Kingfis

[Goanet] DR. PROENÇA remembered by a New Yorker.

[eric pinto]

On Monday, January 13, 2014 8:49 AM, eric travers 

Re: [Goanet] At the Goa Book Club - Broadway Book House Meeting: Some Sidelights

[eric pinto]

          Do not accept the Khalil renunciation.
    India now enforces piracy regulations: using an Indian
    front name for 'author' circumvents the law.
        Khalil used Bharad. His silence speaks volumes.  eric



On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:26 PM, augusto pinto  wrote:
 
Alfred Chacha

One of the sidelights of the GBC meet on translation was the appearance of
the veteran Goan journalist Alfred de Tavares, with whom Prof Afonso in
particular was delighted to renew acquaintance. He reminsced with Alfred
Chacha, as he is fondly called online, about the All Fools Club which they
had formed when they were students. Alfred was here on holiday from Sweden,
with his daughter or was it granddaughter?

The Case of the Plagiarised Self-Improvement Books

I chatted with Khalil Mohammed of Broadway Book House about the case of the
plagiarised self-improvement books and its author. He was quite put out
with this case. He fumed:"You don't know what a loss I suffered. I went and
shredded all those books. That person tried to give some excuse that it was
a mistake... He is a Ph.D... How could he not have known..."

I think Khalil will be a bit more careful now about which books he accepts
to publish.

Shell Windows

One of the best books that Broadway Book House has published along with
Fundacao Oriente is a collection of short stories called Shell Windows. It
is consists of the best short stories from a short story competition
conducted by FO in 2011.

It consists of 22 short stories. Among the writers featured are Manohar
Shetty, Ahmed Bungalowalla, Aldina Braganza e Gomes, Prashanti Talpankar,
Belinda Viegas, Marilia Fernades, Ramnath Gaude, Cordelia Francis, Bevinda
Collaco, Sheela Jaywant and Fatima Noronha. Many of them are Goa Book Club
members. Congratulations to all.

Cheerio
Augusto

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[Goanet] Indian super-rich colonise London

[eric pinto]

December 18, 2013 11:22 AM, Errol Pinto http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21582254-indias-super-rich-elite-are-colonising-heart-former-british-empire-passage


Bagehot
A passage to Mayfair
India’s super-rich elite are colonising the heart of the former British empire
Jul 27th 2013 | From the print edition
IN THE days of the British Raj, the colonial government used to up sticks in 
May and flee the searing plains for the cooler hills. What passed for India’s 
high society, army officers, anthropologists and the odd touring aristocrat 
followed it, making Shimla, a rickety Himalayan hill town, one of the gayest 
spots of the British empire. It was a place of promenading, parties and 
extramarital affairs. It is a wonder the government still functioned.
These days India’s super-rich elite makes a similar migration, to London. From 
June to August, when the temperature in Delhi rarely drops below 35 degrees 
Celsius, wealthy Indians and their wives flock to the former imperial 
capital—especially to its most exclusive quarter, Mayfair. This is not entirely 
new: rich Indian nabobs and maharajas have shopped and owned houses in Mayfair 
for a century and more. But in recent years their numbers have swollen, by one 
estimate, to a seasonal migration of perhaps 3,000 rich Indians. Last year 
almost a quarter of the houses and flats that sold in Mayfair were bought—for 
up to £3,500 ($5,400) per square foot—by Indians, according to Peter Wetherell, 
an estate agent, making them the second biggest buyers after Britons. Russians 
and other Europeans, whose lust for prime London property is more often blamed 
for pushing up prices, were responsible for a similar proportion between them.
Early in the morning, St James’s Park resembles Lodi Gardens in Delhi or the 
Hanging Gardens in Mumbai, such is the procession of well-heeled Indians 
perambulating around it. They are overwatched from the Mall by the lavish 
quarters of a family of ex-India industrialists, the Hinduja brothers—bought 
from the queen and renovated at an estimated cost of £50m.
At the Buckingham Palace end of the park, a five-star hotel part-owned by Tata 
Sons, India’s biggest private-sector company, forms the headquarters of the 
Indian elite’s London season. On a recent afternoon Bagehot took tea in its 
courtyard with a senior Hindu nationalist politician and one of India’s 
national cricket selectors. The chief minister of the state of Assam, a member 
of India’s ruling Congress party, stopped by for a chat, flanked by a pair of 
mustachioed flunkies. They were succeeded by a pair of Bollywood A-listers, 
Ajay Devgan and Kareena Kapoor (who is also the daughter-in-law of India’s 
greatest cricket captain, the late Tiger Pataudi). Each member of this 
constellation—representing politics, cricket and Bollywood: the firmament of 
Indian celebrity—appeared unsurprised by the encounters. They are what India’s 
rich and powerful expect in London these days.
Indeed they come for more than the weather. Many see London property as a 
secure investment. All enjoy the capital’s world-beating choice of 
services—sometimes too much. An Indian entrepreneur of Bagehot’s acquaintance, 
who owns a flat just outside Mayfair, glumly confesses that he dreads hearing 
about his wife’s daily purchases: “I keep telling her, we’re not as rich as the 
others.” British public schools are also becoming popular with rich Indians—and 
likely to become more so, after Shahrukh Khan (the “King of Bollywood”) sent 
his son to board at Sevenoaks School in Kent.
A dim—sometimes very dim—sense of history makes such British luxuries all the 
more enticing. A very rich Indian with a London abode says it makes him mad to 
see so many fine Victorian monuments built with the stolen wealth of India 
(“but what about all the millions he’s stolen?” another Indian migrant 
harrumphs). Yet like the Britons who once flocked to Shimla, India’s elite come 
to London mainly for the self-validating glory of their own company.
To be part of the London scene is a mark of distinction. It can also provide 
for excellent networking. Rich Indians from different realms and cities are 
often likelier to cross each other’s paths in London than in Delhi or Mumbai. 
For those seeking to curry favour with them, being in a foreign city (albeit 
one substantially owned by Indians) can also provide good opportunities to do 
so. Even Indian billionaires are said to be shocked by the cost of London taxis 
and correspondingly grateful to the man who sends them a car. Mostly, however, 
the Indians in London hang out with the same crowd as they do back home—and in 
much the same supercharged atmosphere of “frivolity, gossip and intrigue” that 
Rudyard Kipling once noted in Shimla.
An unserious business
Yet there is a troubling flip-side to the historical comparison. The British in 
Shimla shut themselves off from India—even banning some Indians from the 
hill-station’s main promenade. London’s super-rich I

[Goanet] Grand Coalition

[eric pinto]

               The Delhi outcome signals an end to business as usual
           on our political stage. I cannot picture AA teaming up with either
           of the two collections of knaves. They will need to team up
           on the road to larceny.  Reliance will sleep easy, with only
           one cheque made out in future to BJP-Congress Inc.

[Goanet] Fw: schadenfreude

[eric pinto]

         Errol writing from his perch under a glacier somewhere
   in the Argentine Patagonia. Thanks, Gabe.   eric.
--

On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:59 PM, Errol Pinto    wrote
 
Yes, I knew that.  I think he settled quietly; did not really fight.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM, eric pinto 
>> ………...former Beatle George Harrison
>> was sued for plagiarism because the melody of his song "My Sweet Lord" was
>> too similar to the Chiffons' song "He's So Fine.
>
>
>COMMENT; readers may listen to these two and make observations!
>
>George 
>Harrison<http://www.youtube.com/artist/george-harrison?feature=watch_video_title>-My
>Sweet Lord (Studio Versio
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNGnIKUdMI
>
>
>The 
>Chiffons<http://www.youtube.com/artist/the-chiffons?feature=watch_video_title>
>
>-
>He´s So Fine
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rinz9Avvq6A
>-- 
>
>DEV BOREM KORUM
>
>Gabe Menezes.
>
>


-- 

Tel: +1-585-298-4464

[Goanet] Rare Pictures of GOA

[eric pinto]

Peninsular India: Old Goa 
>If the Pacific Ocean was once a Spanish Lake, then the Indian Ocean during the 
>16th Century belonged to the Portuguese. The administrative center of this 
>Portuguese Lake was Goa. What did it look like? Most of the city of that time 
>has been obliterated, partly by time but largely by the Portuguese themselves 
>using it as a stone quarry. Words come to the partial rescue, here in a 
>snippet of the account left by Francois Pyrard, writing shortly after 1600. 
>"It is about a hundred and ten years since the Portuguese made themselves 
>masters of this island of Goa, and I have often wondered at the rapidity with 
>which the Portuguese have been able to rear stately edifices, so many 
>churches, convents, palaces, fortesses, and other buildings This city is 
>the metropolis of the whole of the Portuguese dominions in India Every 
>year more than a thousand ships touch there laden with cargo." Don't be misled 
>by his use of the word "island." It's not; by a stretch
 the city stood on a peninsula. (Quoted in Jos Nicola da Fonseca, Sketch of the 
City of Goa, 1878, p. 156)
>
>Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>Well, here we are, a busy street 400 years ago. Jan van Linschoten, assistant 
>to the archbishop and in modern language also an industrial spy, wrote that 
>one street was crowded with cotton and silk dresses, China porcelain, and 
>velvet from Portugal. Another was for woodworking--beds, chairs, joinery. 
>Linschoten did more than describe the commercial geography of Old Goa: he 
>copied the maps long held secret by the Portuguese, and when he brought them 
>back to his Dutch countrymen, they began sailing the Portuguese Lake, with 
>ruinous effect for the Portuguese. By 1774, Portugal's eminent Marquis of 
>Pombal sent out a new governor with instructions to restore the city's glory. 
>It was not to be, but Pombal's instructions to Jos Pedro da Camara describe 
>Goa by then as "overtaken by such calamities that she is reduced to a heap of 
>ruins; so that she is now a mere wreck of what she was in happier times." 
>(Fonseca, p. 183)Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/";
 rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>A coconut grove on the site of former buildings. The heap of stones was made 
>recently, when the landowner cleared the site before planting it. If you like 
>lamentations, you'll love Tomas Ribeiro (1831-1901), who wrote of Goa: "I have 
>come to witness the collapse of glory, to have to show to foreign peoples only 
>ruins, deserts and skulls, as all the trophies of our history." (Quoted in 
>Churches of Goa by Jose Pereira, 2002, p. 90)Infotainment" 
>href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>It almost takes an archaeologist to sort it out: the relics of ancient Goa are 
>not the stone blocks in the upper half of this picture. They're the thin 
>fragments of roof tile in the lower half.Infotainment" 
>href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>Visitors today arrive by road, but in the old days they came up the Mandovi 
>River, here at low tide five miles from the sea. There's a lot of bulk-carrier 
>traffic, as well as ferries on the river, but no oceanic passenger 
>ships.Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>The 16th Century city was walled with a gate that was decorated for the 
>arrival of new governors. Then in 1599, when the governor was Dom Francisco da 
>Gama, the great-grandson of Vasco da Gama, this arch was built at the river's 
>edge "by order of the Senate of the city of Goa, with the twofold object of 
>saving the expense of decoration and of perpetuating the name of the famous 
>discoverer of the sea route to India." (Fonseca, p. 193) Sorry to disappoint, 
>but the arch collapsed in 1948 and was entirely rebuilt in 1954. Old 
>engravings show a slightly more elaborate structure, with an upper image 
>containing a statue of St. Catherine. (See, for example, the one in Antonio 
>Lopes Mendes, A India Portuguesa, 1886, vol. 1, p. 51.)Infotainment" 
>href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
>Vasco in his Sunday best. Although Vasco came to India in 1498, Portuguese 
>rule over Goa was established instead by Afonso Albuquerque, who in 1510 
>defeated the forces of the Sultan of Bijapur. It happened on November 25th, 
>the feast day of St. Catherine, which is why her image originally appeared 
>above Vasco's.Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" 
>target="_blank"
>Rear of arch, with view through to ferry dock. Notice the statue at the top of 
>the arch?Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" 
>target="_blank"
>It shows a woman, sword in hand, standing over a man in native dress. Symbol 
>of Portugal's rule?Infotainment" href="http://keralites.net/"; rel="nofollow" 
>target="_blank"
>Inside the arch is this tablet. The upper portion reads: "The legitimate and 
>true ki

[Goanet] Education, marriage, and mom.

[eric pinto]

              The grandmother syndrome is a powerful urge in 
    women past middle-age.  Fifty percent of Jewish women in 
    the 'eligible' group are unmarried professionals. The joke 
    is that the bribe to a daughter to produce a child starts with a BMW   and 
then notches up to an apartment.
              Our billionaire mayor will not stop speaking about the
    child due this week to his daughter, 30, and her 'partner.'

[Goanet] Dr. Barad

[eric pinto]

   Sorry folks !  Sorry Dr. Barad.  There was a reverential
> to her in the forwarded article: it was obviously outdated.
>  I too now believe we should put this to rest. Some of us
>did not see eye to eye with our friend, but a forum profits
> from a diversity of opinions.  Dr.B did educate me on 
>many an occasion.       eric.
>
>
>
>I hope 'we' are aware that Dr. Barad's wife passed away some years ago!
>
>
>jc
>
>

[Goanet] Dr. Barad

[eric pinto]

     I think there is more here than meets the eye.
   I very much doubt if any of his 'books' saw sales of any
   kind. It must have cost him personally to have a few 
   vanity copies printed.
      I suspect a voodoo inspired need, further abetted by the
   wife, to appease society, and salve his father's revered
   memory. I do not have a problem with that, to be nice.      eric.

[Goanet] More on Rolly's Canadian hospitality.

[eric pinto]

         When a Goan grandmother was admitted to hospital
  in a psychotic state, it was discovered her presence in the 
  country was not formal. Both her adult children were similarly
  handicapped, medically. The Toronto authorities held her
 in an asylum for three years. 
         A deportation order was processed but not executed on
'humanitarian' grounds because she had no means in India.
 She was next confined in an apartment, with an aide present
around the clock. She was still being held when a MI claimed her 
life, several years later.

Re: [Goanet] DR UG Barad

[eric pinto]

                First I hear of this escapade: our Freddy best positioned
      to attempt an expose.   eric.
       



On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:51 AM, Garner Thomson 
 wrote:
 
I would very much appreciate comments on the fact that a book, Get Anyone
Do Anything, published this year under the authorship of Dr UG Barad, is in
fact, a book written by David Lieberman, a best-selling American author,
and published in 2000. Aside from the title which has the word "to"
missing, the two books are word-for-word identical. The most cursory check
on Amazon will bear this out.

I must say, as a writer and a frequent visitor to Goa, I have been somewhat
dubious about Dr Barad's prolific output, that he appears to have extensive
knowledge of social psychology, sociology and a number of other
disparate fields, and that his writing style in emails and web postings
bear little resemblance to the various books he has published on the
psychology of influence, body language, the 80:20 Principle etc.

However, this is the first opportunity I have had to do a line for line
comparison and to establish that this is not a case of partial plagiarism
or a re-write, but a simple act of theft accomplished by replacing his name
with that of the original author on the title and copyright pages of "his"
book.

I have notified Mr Khalil Ahmad, Dr Barad's publisher in Panjim, Mr
Lieberman and Mr Lieberman's American publishers, and look forward to
seeing what action is taken to curb this outrageous transgression. I have
also emailed Dr Barad directly, but he has failed to reply. The matter has
subsequently been aired on various writer's fora, as well as on Facebook.

Sadly, this action - by a man who presents himself as an honoured and
honourable writer, academic and civic leader - simply serves to reinforce
any marginalisation of Indian, and specifically Goan, writers as trivial
and even untrustworthy.

Since he is a frequent contributor to this forum, perhaps Dr Barad would
like to explain himself.

Garner Thomson
London



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Re: [Goanet] Goa and goans

[eric pinto]

           The unique Anna Manifesto has now covered chapters
  over a decade of soulful reporting. It is Abrahamic of old and
  latter day Paul, Stalinist and Gandhian, Keynes and kangaroo.
           I cannot place a finger on the nature of the pathology, but
  that is exactly what it reflects. I do not want to imagine what dinner
  table conversation at her home echoes.      eric.
  
  



On Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:00 PM, "J. Colaco < jc>"  
wrote:
 
From: Ana Maria Fernandes 

(1)  We who are still left in Goa whenever we visit foreign countries do
not grumble that our relatives over there are bartenders, waiters, plumbers
even if they possess a degree or post graduation etc etc.
(2) But when you come here please do not boast about your land which is
actually not yours.
(3) The picture shown by our Goans migrated abroad is not true picture
(4) They cannot afford luxury like we can afford over here.
(5) Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there though they
will hug and kiss you here in Goa.
(6) Goans are starving in foreign countries.


Dear Ana Maria,

I have selected the above 6 sentences from your post and arranged them for
ease of response.

re #1: It is good to applaud those who work, whatever their work and
wherever they work, as long as they work hard and honestly.
re #2: I agree with you. Boasting is an imprudent waste of time and energy.
re #3: In many a case, you are right.
re #4: Those who are at home, have the luxury of being home.

re #5: I disagree with you.
re #6: While there are some starving people all over the world, I disagree.

ps: It is worth asking the following questions:

(a) Why are so many Goans leaving Goa to struggle in distant lands? (b)
Would their elderly parents have managed to survive if their children had
not migrated and struggled abroad?


jc

Re: [Goanet] Freedom Fighters

[eric pinto]

        Rolly - i knew guys who refused to pay at eating places
because " i am Vietnam."  He now personified that war. Only,
this 'fighter' is not likely to admit that he was stoned on cheap smokes and 
barely performed  in the field.
       The cause in Goa cannot be questioned. 
       The question to ask is who decided to turn it into a no 
losers lottery stake.        eric.



On Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:22 AM, roland.francis 
 wrote:
 
If Goa Police fought crime and Goa Firefighters fought fires, what did Goa 
Freedom Fighters fight?

Roland.


Sent from Samsung Mobile

Re: [Goanet] Hail to Unity.

[eric pinto]

     Gabe- that was five star, evil you !
  'Alleghmaine Uber Alles' meant Germany Above All.  It was
 the supercharged anthem of Hitler's fascist regime.
       Thanks Gabe.  Bet Hit ate pastrami on the sly !     eric.



On Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:30 PM, Gabe Menezes  
wrote:
 





On 28 November 2013 14:38, eric pinto  wrote:

            We could take a leaf from Germany: 
>           It is time for our 'patriots' to sing "Bharat Uber Alles" for a 
>change.  German Gabe, please translate.    eric.
>

RESAPONSE: How on earth could we have India above all - first fix the toilet 
situation or get rid of the dogs and bring in the pigs! 


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Hail to Unity.

[eric pinto]

            We could take a leaf from Germany: it was announced this
week that the long time antagonists, the Social Democrats and the
Christian Democrats would form a grand coalition.
            Both our 'grand' parties have pigged at the trough for long,
both public and private.  Companies have traditionally given to both, equally; 
you have to cover all bases. A noble cause unites the BJP
and the Congress.
           Both groups are low enough at the polls to rule out going it 
alone next year. Regional parties make for messy juntas. Singh has
seen his vital economic reforms blocked by his partners, and is 
expected to look the other way as the blackmailing knaves plunder.
           It is time for our 'patriots' to sing "Bharat Uber Alles" for a 
change.  German Gabe, please translate.    eric.

[Goanet] Virgin Atlantic Air - Better pricing.

[eric pinto]

     Business is now termed Premium Economy, and the seats are
 wider than those in business elsewhere. They are not flat bed, but
 they do incline very comfortably. Meals are gourmet.
     First is now called Upper Class.
     Business return NY - Bombay in January is just $2300.
     London - Bom is 700 sterling.
         Merv/Rolly - gals deserve no less !       eric.

[Goanet] New life for flowers.

[eric pinto]

  Families in NY send them to hospitals after the church
Funeral Service.  I tip children to sneak them away to the asilo.
   Sardinia should have brightened a little girl's day.    eric.

Re: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways….

[eric pinto]

      Gabe - Merv - Santosh,  I have come to the conclusion
 that these underpaid, disgruntled emps get their free perk
and thrill when they 'hurt' who they perceive  as an affluent
'foreign' or NRI Indian.
     Never mind the spiffy togs, they really are underpaid.   eric.
       




On Monday, November 25, 2013 4:04 AM, Gabe Menezes  
wrote:
 
On our way back to London from Goa at the checkin counter of Jet Airways.
The young lady stated without looking up that we were overweight! We said
no we were allowed 35kgs each. She looked at the tickets again and no word
of apology…that's India for you!

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Alexandre D'Souza - Aldona/Canada.

[eric pinto]

http://tinyurl.com/qc2khv8

Re: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways - MODERATORS

[eric pinto]

         Francis, the talking mule, had fascinated us when
 we were kids, at the movies.
      I do hope we have now had the last word on the 
subject. It is Thanksgiving week over North America,
when we talk giblets over turkey. 



On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:15 PM, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:
 
Jim Fernandes wrote:
>Oops ... Now the high priest got insulted because I creamed his 
>fellow padre !!!


Jim,
It is very strange that you now need to smear religion too. Let me remind you 
that members on this forum have the utmost respect for the clergy.  


>Please explain who I have named in my post and called an ass. 
>Please also explain why "ass" is not an acceptable word on GoaNet.


You feel you have the right to use any word, any where. That is probably 
because of the way you were brought up. However, my concern is not with you. My 
concern is with the moderators. When they encourage mud slinging, members will 
not contribute. No one wants to deal with the habitual mud slingers here. 
Goanet supposedly has 14,000 members. Yet only a handful contribute. When 
members do not contribute, the community loses out. 

  
>According to one dictionary, "Ass" means - Any of several hoofed >mammals of 
>the genus Equus, resembling and closely related to the >horses but having a 
>smaller build and longer ears, and including the >domesticated donkey.
>
>Ha ha ha ha . 

This is the first time I have seen a fully grown man need to describe "Ass" and 
do a half as job while doing so.

Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways - MODERATORS

[eric pinto]

          The CIA shipped 800 mules from the army farm
   in Georgia to Karachi, then overland to Afghanistan
    where they lugged small arms to guerillas who fought
  the invading Russian army.
         The donkeys won the war. They were then eaten.





On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:36 PM, Jim Fernandes  wrote:
 
Oops ... Now the high priest got insulted because I creamed his fellow padre !!!

Please explain who I have named in my post and called an ass. Please also 
explain why "ass" is not an acceptable word on GoaNet.

According to one dictionary, "Ass" means - Any of several hoofed mammals of the 
genus Equus, resembling and closely related to the horses but having a smaller 
build and longer ears, and including the domesticated donkey.

Ha ha ha ha .


Jim

...
...

 
Folks,
There is no reason whatsoever for Jim F. to post the above on this forum.  
 
Personally, I feel that the moderators have failed us.
 
I also think it is about time these tired moderators move on and let this forum 
be moderated by people who take their responibilties seriously.
 
Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] Off topic: ECB considers negative interest rates

[eric pinto]

         Gabe - Swiss foreign deposits are hit with an annual
 fee of two percent, so negative interest !
         One is far ahead paying 30% in income tax at home,
then collecting 10% in bank interest on the balance, in India.
         Income disparity has gone just too far, worsened in the 
West by deflation.  Printing money would inflate, allow the 
the 90% now left behind to acquire assets and product.  The 
super rich despise inflation, and have always found a friend in
conservative administrations.             eric.



On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:34 AM, Gabe Menezes  
wrote:
 
On 21 November 2013 01:59, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:


> Folks,
> Europe is getting more bizarre by the day.
>
> News leaked from sources in the European Central Bank confirm that the
> authority is considering a smaller than normal cut in interest rates. They
> are going to reduce the interest rate from 0% to minus .10%
>
> I am guessing the step after that will be to pay interest to those who
> borrow money.
>
> Well, here is the link.
>
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-20/ecb-said-to-consider-mini-deposit-rate-cut-if-more-easing-needed.html
>
>
> Mervyn
>
COMMENT: This is not something new and is done for various purposes. Some
years ago the Swiss National Bank adopted negative interest rates to
discourage hot flows into the Swiss Franc; this could happen again!


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Energy Balance (Off topic))0

[eric pinto]

           Time for a truce.  Hope Merv lets this die down with 
    with a re-telling of the facts, as he sees them.
           No more name calling !          eric. 



On Friday, November 15, 2013 1:04 AM, roland.francis  
wrote:
 
A notoriously inaccurate astrologer-swamy on Goanet who fancies himself not 
only as a gold expert projecting its meteoric rise but also a foreteller of a 
US economy crash and who shoots his mouth from the hip ("I like to see into the 
future, I am not intetested in the present"), should note that talking of the  
future he so loves, by 2015 the US will dominate world oil production 
overtaking Russia according to the International Energy Agency. In the two 
decades after that, it will achieve energy sufficiency from solely it's own 
domestic sources.

One down gold, one up the USA, two down the swamy.

Roland.


Sent from Samsung Mobile

[Goanet] How Oliver Cromwell dismissed the English Parliafriment

[eric pinto]

*How much this speech mirrors our despicable state of affairs:*


*Oliver Cromwell MPs speech on the dissolution of the Rump of the Long
Parliament, given to the House of Commons, 20 April 1653.*

*"It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which
you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your
practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good
government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell
your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a
few pieces of money.*
*Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you
do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God;
which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man
amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?*
*Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turn'd
the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and
wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you
were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves
gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In
the name of God, go!"*

[Goanet] Western Mineral rights

[eric pinto]

           Two thousand pounds of copper go into a new home built 
    in Europe/US.   Almost all of it comes from the Congo, Chile and Peru.
    When Lumumba grabbed the the Congolese mines, four Western intelligence
     agencies joined to split Katanga province and install Tshombe in power.
     He then murdered Lumumba.   When Allende seized the Anaconda operation
     Chile, he was overthrown in a coup paid for by ITT, and killed.
          Two governments were destabilized in Peru and the Fujimori 
dictatorship
    was backed for a decade     eric.



 From: roland.francis <


Today's French revelations brings confirmation that Yasser Arafat was indeed  
killed by Polonium poisoning. The French must be ticked off by the Wiki 
revelations that the US was monitoring French communication. The CIA did a 
number on poor Yasser and his PLO. Did you ever hear much of that organization 
after Yasser? Seems like they disappeared off the face of the Middle East.

FN and Eric: Bet the Seven Sisters were somehow involved.

[Goanet] Dr. Grandma

[eric pinto]

       Playing doctor is an important part of the of the grandma act.
     An aunt treated a son's high fever with a laxative.  He had typhoid
      fever, know to cause intestinal ulcerations.  The laxative's violence
      resulted in perforations, peritonotis and the boy's demise.     




 From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
 

This is typical of 'grandmother's medicine'.
To treat a fever with antipyretics without knowing the cause.

[Goanet] Seven Sisters/Shell/Imperial Oil.

[eric pinto]

    Frederick -  mixed feelings here.   Imperial/BP in Quetta/Dharan, then
   the Arabs in the second half of the twentieth possibly account for a third
of our income/assets in Goa.     eric.



 From: Frederick FN Noronha 
 

Fascinating story! FN

The Secret of the Seven Sisters - Episode 1: Desert Storms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNFD3UlSk0I

Secret of the Seven Sisters - Episode 2: The Black El Dorado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jajd7-xZlxw

Secret of the Seven Sisters - Episode 3: The Dancing Bear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCv8LFzNbzA

Secret of the Seven Sisters - Episode 4: A Time for Lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjvPRWJNDzY

[Goanet] a better place to live

[eric pinto]

        We do provide nicer living to the Punjab's army brass; and their 
children,
   pretty much guaranteed a similar bright future in the forces. One simply 
cannot
   beat being at a state of permanent war with every neighbour, around the 
compass.
        Billions now on a naval base in Karwar that will serve to keep Japan's 
oil
   lane safe from Chinese marauders around Hormuz.  They sleep better at naval
   HQ in San Diego and Norfolk, Virginia.     eric. 


 

Tim de Mello                          

[Goanet] Real ghosts !

[eric pinto]

           You are right, Alfred, Porvorim was not a Manhattan Mascarade !
        The goblins were the real thing, the corpse was not make-believe.
                       Still in a cloud, and also trying to get over the loss 
of 
         Engr. Sylvestre.  Thanks to Floriano and Valmiki, comforted.    eric.
      


 From: Alfred de Tavares <
 


Eric, my lad.pls blinker your eyes a shade on madding Manhattan & behold
Goaer, our own Provorim.

Nowthat Boko Haran has heeled upon Chechens, HamasMPT-Montes et 
tutti merdein our blessed sanctuary-for-all-scum, can Pretty Pussy Riot 
linger 
far behind?

Let's hope they hurry

I am hurrying...tither

Chacha




> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:33:46 -0700
> From: ericpin...@yahoo.com
> To: mervynal...@yahoo.ca; goanet@lists.goanet.org; goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] A mile-long Treat !
> 
> 
> 
>        Over fifty thousand revellers in outlandish costumes paraded down
>   a Manhattan avenue for several hours.  Two million came to watch, many 
>   thousands visiting from every continent in the world.
>       One word best defined the mood of the day -'happyness.'  It was a sea 
> of humanity, folk at their very best: we probably feel the same way, at 
> Ganapati
> time.  In New York, demons brought people together in a manner never 
> mastered by smiling heavenly cherubs: ironic, indeed.
>      It is a day for children, to witness the joy they experience is a treat, 
> but Mervyn
> and I will continue to gatecrash.  The overcrowded pubs and bars in the city,
> with screams and laughter into the wee hours showed that people can be human,
> if they choose to do so.    
>      Word is Merv and Rolly were at the same party.       eric.
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Mervyn Lobo 
> To: "goanet@lists.goanet.org"  
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:42 PM
> Subject: [Goanet] Trick of treat?
> 
> 
> Folks,
> Today is the day when people in Toronto don costumes and go out celebrating. 
> It usually is (to me) one of the most enjoyable days of the year.
>  
> The younger trick or treaters are dressed early and are the first to arrive 
> at your doorstep. It is an absolute delight to answer the doorbell and see an 
> adorable two year old girl dressed up as a fairy. Even more enjoyable is to 
> watch them skip up the driveway, fascinated that all the neighbours will give 
> them sweets and all they have to do is beam and say, "Trick or treat?"
>  
> It is easy to figure out who is five years or older. These kids now have a 
> say in what they are going to dress up as and last years dreamy four year old 
> fairy, suddenly becomes a five year old zombie. The older the kids get, the 
> more macabre their costumes become. My favourites are those with one eye 
> falling from their skulls. 
> 
> The more daring transform into murderers. There always is a wide spectrum of 
> axe, knife and sword wielding characters who are happy to demand candies and 
> flee, in glee, when their goal is achieved. 
>  
> The more creative kids arrive with a bloody mess where their head should be. 
> Tucked into one arm, the way a rugby player tucks the ball, is their real 
> head. Such costumes are a sight to behold. 
>  
> A lot of front yards are converted into mock graveyards.  It can be cold, it 
> can be rainy, it can be both and windy too as it was today. This only adds to 
> the setting. Imagine this if you can, the fallen leaves are swirling and 
> wavering in the wind. There is a bunch of excited, pre-teen, murderers 
> walking down the street. A slow mist is creeping up around the lamp posts and 
> there is nothing but excitement in the air. 
> 
> Their talk, believe it or not, is about candies. And sometimes about whose 
> house to go to next. What the kids do not notice is the elaborate set ups 
> that some parents have taken the trouble to construct. Those celebrating will 
> have stuff anyone can buy from Wal-Mart. But there also is that one simple 
> special pleasure. The pumpkin. Actually, the carved pumpkin.    
> 
> Carved pumpkins, ranging from the truly admirable to the almost disgusting. 
> It is all part of the fun. It is also all part of the fun Toronto I live in. 
> 
> Mervyn (at the end of a great day.)

[Goanet] A mile-long Treat !

[eric pinto]

       Over fifty thousand revellers in outlandish costumes paraded down
  a Manhattan avenue for several hours.  Two million came to watch, many 
  thousands visiting from every continent in the world.
      One word best defined the mood of the day -'happyness.'  It was a sea 
of humanity, folk at their very best: we probably feel the same way, at Ganapati
time.  In New York, demons brought people together in a manner never 
mastered by smiling heavenly cherubs: ironic, indeed.
     It is a day for children, to witness the joy they experience is a treat, 
but Mervyn
and I will continue to gatecrash.  The overcrowded pubs and bars in the city,
with screams and laughter into the wee hours showed that people can be human,
if they choose to do so.    
     Word is Merv and Rolly were at the same party.       eric.



 From: Mervyn Lobo 
To: "goanet@lists.goanet.org"  
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:42 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Trick of treat?
 

Folks,
Today is the day when people in Toronto don costumes and go out celebrating. It 
usually is (to me) one of the most enjoyable days of the year.
 
The younger trick or treaters are dressed early and are the first to arrive at 
your doorstep. It is an absolute delight to answer the doorbell and see an 
adorable two year old girl dressed up as a fairy. Even more enjoyable is to 
watch them skip up the driveway, fascinated that all the neighbours will give 
them sweets and all they have to do is beam and say, "Trick or treat?"
 
It is easy to figure out who is five years or older. These kids now have a say 
in what they are going to dress up as and last years dreamy four year old 
fairy, suddenly becomes a five year old zombie. The older the kids get, the 
more macabre their costumes become. My favourites are those with one eye 
falling from their skulls. 

The more daring transform into murderers. There always is a wide spectrum of 
axe, knife and sword wielding characters who are happy to demand candies and 
flee, in glee, when their goal is achieved. 
 
The more creative kids arrive with a bloody mess where their head should be. 
Tucked into one arm, the way a rugby player tucks the ball, is their real head. 
Such costumes are a sight to behold. 
 
A lot of front yards are converted into mock graveyards.  It can be cold, it 
can be rainy, it can be both and windy too as it was today. This only adds to 
the setting. Imagine this if you can, the fallen leaves are swirling and 
wavering in the wind. There is a bunch of excited, pre-teen, murderers walking 
down the street. A slow mist is creeping up around the lamp posts and there is 
nothing but excitement in the air. 

Their talk, believe it or not, is about candies. And sometimes about whose 
house to go to next. What the kids do not notice is the elaborate set ups that 
some parents have taken the trouble to construct. Those celebrating will have 
stuff anyone can buy from Wal-Mart. But there also is that one simple special 
pleasure. The pumpkin. Actually, the carved pumpkin.    

Carved pumpkins, ranging from the truly admirable to the almost disgusting. It 
is all part of the fun. It is also all part of the fun Toronto I live in. 

Mervyn (at the end of a great day.)

[Goanet] Engr. Sylvester Noronha, Aldona/Dona Paula.

[eric pinto]

    I knew him for his humaneness and openness.  He was kind and
useful to the diocese and the community. We had cooperated on several projects.
          Rest in Peace.                   eric.

[Goanet] MICA

[eric pinto]

            Mentally Ill Chemical Abusers.   Wine, women and song, and
   narcotics in this new flower world of mania.  It is nicotine in the 
case of schizophrenia, they chain smoke.    eric.



 From: Gerald Fernandes 
 

 
Researchers say alcoholism and anxiety could be linked in a destructive loop
SEEDMAGAZINE.COM  OCTOBER,25,2013, ISSUE.
You don’t have to be a scientist to know that, like height, good teeth, and a 
strong back, alcoholism runs in families. Years of identical-twin and 
inheritance studies have confirmed conventional wisdom, but alcoholism’s exact 
genetic underpinning has, so far, remained a mystery.
Recently, a group of researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago 
demonstrated a possible genetic basis for alcoholism. They showed that a strong 
preference for alcohol can be linked to genetically-low levels of two proteins 
in the brain—neuropeptide Y (NPY) and cyclic AMP responsive element binding 
protein (CREB)—and that a deficiency of these proteins relates to anxiety. 
According to their study, when someone prone to anxiety consumes alcohol, he 
self-medicates by raising the level of these proteins in the brain, thereby 
decreasing anxiety.
For the study, published in the October issue of the Journal of Clinical 
Investigation, professor Subhash Pandey selectively bred two groups of rats: 
some with a strong preference for alcohol, and some with no preference for 
alcohol. He found that rats who voluntarily drank more alcohol had low levels 
of two proteins that affect the amygdala, an area of the brain responsible for 
emotional processing of sensory input. He also observed that these rats 
exhibited behavior indicative of anxiety. When these rats drank alcohol, the 
levels of the proteins increased, and the anxious behavior stopped. 
“They may be drinking to self-medicate,” Pandey said in a telephone interview. 
“These rats are drinking alcohol to increase the levels of [the two proteins].”
Pandey was able to achieve the same soothing effect by directly injecting the 
rats’ central amygdalas with the protein NPY, or with a chemical that activates 
the other protein, CREB. He also observed that when he injected a CREB 
inhibitor into the brains of the rats with no preference for alcohol, those 
rats then became anxious and started drinking.
After prolonged exposure to alcohol, the rats with no initial preference for 
alcohol began to exhibit the same anxious behaviors and low protein levels as 
the alcohol-preferring rats. Those rats had become addicted to alcohol.
Pandey said that humans produce these same proteins, and a protein deficiency 
would cause high levels of anxiety in people as well as in rats.
“In humans, the high anxiety level causes high alcohol intake,” Pandey said. 
“This is a very good model for mimicking the human situation.”
Gary Wand, a professor of endocrinology at the Johns Hopkins University School 
of Medicine, published an editorial on Pandey’s study in the same issue of the 
Journal of Clinical Investigation. Wand said that past studies on alcoholism 
have mostly focused on the positive rewards of alcohol: the buzz and sense of 
well-being a person feels after drinking. Pandey’s study stands out for looking 
at alcohol use as a remedy for the specific problem of anxiety. Wand believes a 
genetic disposition to crave either the positive rewards of alcohol, or its 
anxiety-lowering ability, can lead to alcoholism. However, he holds that 
environmental factors such as daily life events and early childhood experiences 
also play a role in determining who will become an alcoholic.
“We know that upwards of 50 percent of the determinants for alcohol dependence 
are genetic in origin,” Wand said over the phone. “Assuming that there can be 
genetic differences in how [the two sections of the brain that control reward 
and anxiety] activate, that can create a vulnerable substrate for abuse. That 
vulnerable substrate is created in part by genetics and in part by 
environment.” 
Originally published October 3, 2005 
 
THE GENETIC BASIS OF ALCOHOLISM:SHOULD GOA TAKE THE LEAD TO ESTABLISH A CHAIR 
AT GOA UNIVERSITY AND/OR GOA MEDICAL COLLEGE ? IS STATE OF  GOA  REPUBLIC OF 
INDIA THAT IS BHARAT OBLIGED TO SHARE SUCH DATA WITH PORTUGAL ? LUSOFONIO 
COUNTRIES?

Re: [Goanet] Old-style measurements... paileo, kudov, khandi

[eric pinto]

I recall sacks on three bullock-carts. They filled a structure that was 
known as a 'gottho,'  which was rebuilt as a guest residence, this year.   
     Trippers welcome.    Eric.



 
 


90 khandis, by my friend's count, would be 9000 kgs (at 90-100 kgs per khandi). 
Is he wrong? Or a mixup here? FN

[Goanet] Old-style measurements... paileo, kudov, khandi

[eric pinto]

      Babylon's  'kurro' to our kullov/kuddov, and I assumed it was 
Gabe's friends in HongKong who wrestled with 'flied lice.'
     Ninty khandis of paddy were delivered from Mayem every winter,
to become free picking for a hundred and fifty odd chickens.
    Merwyn's foxes treated themselves to a couple every week, sliding into
town down his grandmother's Siolim hill slope.
    Missed Jim at a recent mountain-top picnic: he could have skinned a 
pretty red fox, done in by a car on the Montreal freeway. He does broil
Canadians !   Don't tell him I went pomfret fishing for junior.     eric.



 

 
Old-style measurements... , kudov,   khandi
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/121767390/

 
 Kullov
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/121767391/

[Goanet] Old-style measurements... paileo, kudov, khandi

[eric pinto]

           The 'kurru' appeared in Akkad in a system that was refined 
later by Naram Sin.  It was volume based, around sixty liters.
           Both Mesopotamia and Persia lay claim to the distance measure,
'farsang,'  the length a person could walk in a day, about five miles.
I see a connection with 'forsonne' of our own Sarswat Prakrit.     eric.



 From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"  
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Old-style measurements... paileo, kudov, khandi
 

Recently, I came across a reference to a *khandi,* and was quite puzzled.
There are hardly any references online to this old style of calculating
paddy yields, field sizes and seed-inputs required for cultivation.

A friend (who knows his farming) share with me the following details. Would
really appreciate your inputs:

A *khandi* is a measure of volume; not of weight. Strangely enough, it is
connected with land-area too, specially when it comes to cultivating paddy
in the field.

The conversion is as below:

Two pileo = One kudov
20 kudov = 1 khandi

Five kudov is approx 25 kgs (when converted into weight, but can vary,
because this is basically a measure of volume). One khandi is approx 90-100
kgs in weight, and again this depends on the variety of paddy grown, as
each can vary in thickness, husk size, weight, etc.

So to cultivate a 2000 sq.m. field, farmers would estimate, for instance,
that it would take 10 kudov of seed to plant. The 10 kudov here refers to
the seed-input required to plant the entire field (not the resultant
yield)!

If a field requiring 5 kudov to plant could give a yield of 5 khandi (a
20-fold yield), it was considered to be a very good field.

While this form of measurement might seem "unscientific" and "non-matric"
to us today, I'm sure it had its advantages in its own time. Any comments
would be appreciated. Kindly correct me if the figures above are incorrect,
or the understanding skewed. The next time someone searching for an
explanation of a *khandi*, at least they will have some discussion to go
by, online. FN


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[Goanet] Alien labels.

[eric pinto]

    Japan grants citizenship to the foreign spouses of her natives.
 It comes with a small catch: the person must acquire and register 
 a Japanese name.
     A child born in Portugal can only carry a Portuguese name at 
the registry. A visitor, like a trader or diplomat, is issued a birth
certificate that says 'male' or 'female' child born to the person who 
is named in the document as the parent.
    A French child cannot be John, for example, he must be Jean.
The rule is not imposed on a person who is not deemed to be French.
              eric.  (Very Ugaritic/Semitic = Arrik, very Skandanavyan = Erik,
 variously 'royal' to 'prince' in Riftic Sanskrit meanderings.)

Re: [Goanet] Macau man.

[eric pinto]

   Not fossil, not mummy,  a very lively, homem bon-vivant
 in a swinging city, no less.
    Wrapped in that petrous Goa basalt, he is tough as nails.
He does petrify me, however: but then Gabe has long embraced
'perfidious Albion' and so we can half-embrace him too.   eric.



On Monday, October 21, 2013 4:08 PM, Alfred de Tavares 
 wrote:
 
 
In which state has the homus been discovered Eric:
Fossilized, mummifiedpetrified...?
The inquisitive Chacha...



> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:41:32 -0700
> From: ericpin...@yahoo.com
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] Macau man.
> 
>      Just a very angry man, perhaps.    eric.

[Goanet] Macau man.

[eric pinto]

     Just a very angry man, perhaps.    eric.

[Goanet] ASIAN SENSATIONAL VICTORIES

[eric pinto]

           Immense and horrendous suffering followed the conquests.  Natives 
were worked 
    to death in chain gangs.  Thousands of Fillipinos were doused with gasoline 
and torched,
    in coliseum style frivolty. 
           Goans suffered huge personal losses in Burma, many paid with their 
lives. None would
    return at war's end.  Free Manila reprisals include the removal of the 
small Goan community.
           Did buddy watch 'The Bridge on the River Kwai  !'    
           The entire War-Cabinet was hanged, without exception, 'justice' 
meted out by a military
    court.  Trueman and McCarther had little use for Nuremberg style niceness.
       ps.  Japan just paid for the Mapuca-Calangute sewage works: fifty 
crores.      eric.



 From: Ricardo Nunes <
 

YELLOW PRIDE OF ANTONIO MENEZES

Europe and India are two subcontinents of Eurasia, the immense continent 
inhabited by four big tribes - the yellow, the turk, the aria and the dravida. 
The islamicized turk/mongol tribe invaded India and as a  result Pakistan and 
Bangladesh were chopped from Bharat; the rest of India was preserved from the 
injury by the arrival of the west arias, and namely the Portuguese. 

Are you a yellow Goan?

Ricardo Nunes

[Goanet] Offtopic: Fighting a loosing battle

[eric pinto]

    Dom Ferdi - so you let loose/lose, not sure which !  
  Will fix Jimmy his favourite fish: it is favorite in our parts.
   Hong Kong pomfret is down to two dollars, from last year's four.   eric.



 From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão 
To: "goa...@goanet.org"  
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: [Goanet]  Offtopic: Fighting a loosing battle
 

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Fernandes" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:22 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Offtopic: Fighting a loosing battle


COMMENT:


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/loosing

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/losing



Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Why the Health Care Law Scares the G.O.P.

[eric pinto]

.
Thanks to Merwyn for the post.  We are watching a scene of extreme
tragi-comedy unfold in real time. There are real victims here, and the 
latter day SS encourages its minions to carry arms.
     Most Republicans in congress are millionaires: their medical plan is free!
The disadvantaged and crippled are disparaged.
     I hope the link here opens.  Nascy - there is method in their madness,
do read the article.       eric.


 
  
  
 Economic Scene
Why the Health Care Law Scares the G.O.P. 
By EDUARDO PORTER
The vehemence of the Tea Party aside, Republican efforts to derail the 
Affordable Care Act aren't entirely irrational. It's a threat to their party.  
Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://nyti.ms/1fGt6Pb   
To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add nytdir...@nytimes.com to your 
address book. 
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[Goanet] Bombay - Nostalgia.

[eric pinto]

 -   http://mumbaiboss.com/author/roshni-bajaj-sanghvi/










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>Of  Velvet Curtains And Pink Gin
>>>SEPTEMBER 23, 2013 7:53 AM BY ROSHNI BAJAJ SANGHVI
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[Goanet] Thank Roland for Dhobi Talao writeup.

[eric pinto]

     Originally posted by him.  Thanks also for long stint
 on Goan Voice.   Much enjoyed.     eric.



 From: Ana Maria de souza-Goswami 
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Dhobitalao - Bombay India
 

In a certain generation not too long ago, if you said Dhobitalao, you meant 
Little Goa.

In Toronto, Canada where I live, there is little Italy, little Greece, 
little Portugal, little India and even, just outside of Toronto, an entire 
suburb (officially called Brampton) known as Khalistan, where all the 
Sardars live.

Brampton used to be a farming area populated by whites, until the Sardars 
moved in. Now it is a place which abounds in Punjabi samosas, sarson-ka-saag 
and 'lawyers' who 'help' you with settling personal injury car accident 
claims. But you will not find any little Goa.

Now, to get back to Dhobitalao.

That area of Bombay was home to a large dhobi migrant community from UP that 
worked from a pond that was originally built by the Parsis to supply their 
Agiaries. Over time, as the water got stagnated, they turned it over to the 
dhobis who needed exactly such a spot to base their trade in  the city. 
Eventually, the pond was cemented over and the Parsis built residential 
buildings which they gave over as rentals to newcomers in Bombay.

It was exactly in such a condition that the first Goans started moving in. 
Soon the area was overflowing with Goan migrants who chose to live together, 
God knows why, given the crab mentality for which the community is famed. 
Not only did they live in harmony, but also in relative peace, although a 
typical large family of seven or eight lived in one room no bigger than 300 
to 500 sq feet.

In that space they hatched, matched and were dispatched.

Dhobitalao, as I knew it, was Goan enough to be known to the rest of Bombay 
and even outside and the Middle East, as the Goan hub outside Goa. Among 
well known features of the area were oasis of large rooms of about 1,500 sq 
feet or more in very old dilapidated buildings that became the homes of Goan 
Village Clubs about which much has been written. What I will add is, that 
the living conditions there were absolutely pathetic. But then, living in 
Portuguese Goa of the time was equally so, despite the large village spaces.

If this description has put in your mind a decrepit neighborhood you would 
not be entirely wrong, but I have not yet made a reference to the vibrancy 
of the place. Dhobitalao was the Bronx of the 1930s. People hung out their 
washed clothing to dry and sat on their building terraces. The terraces were 
the community arenas where every social celebration took place.  A birthday, 
a dance and even movie shows. Everyone was invited, both from the building 
and everywhere  else. Prohibition was in force and Aunty's famous rotgut was 
served.

On one occasion, while learning German from a Saligao resident of Indra 
Bhuvan , I was called to watch a movie on the terrace. The boys running the 
projector sat precariously with their equipment on a small patch on the 
roof, the white painted wall was the screen and the bar was lined along one 
side.

There were all kinds of home cooked snacks on a table and everybody sat 
hunched on the floor in the dark of an 8 pm evening. I don't remember the 
name of the movie, but it was smuggled in by the Goan usher of the nearby 
Metro cinema. There
was dancing after the movie but by then I had left as I had a long hike back 
home to Byculla.

Dhobitalao's Main Street extended from the Sonapur Church (Dolours) to 
Crawford market, a distance of about 1 km. Along the way were butcher shops 
selling fresh pork, and the famous C D'Souza's and Vienna restaurants which 
were frequented by lonely sailors between trips.

They served excellent Goan-Bombay fusion food at ridiculously low prices. In 
1965, you could get a plate of sorpotel, a loaf of bread and Crumb Chops 
(pork chops fried with batter and bread crumbs) followed by a plate of rice 
with fish curry and a fried mackerel on the side. It was excellent value.

On Dhobitalao streets, other restaurants abounded. Along Main Street were 
also a couple of wax candle shops. Thinking about it now, I
wonder what kept them in business. Perhaps it was the yearly fairs at which 
body parts made of wax were sold. Main Street was the show-piece of 
Dhobitalao. Other side streets were not so clean nor as spacious.

There were the Wellington Terraces, a group of four buildings within a rough 
stony compound that was a village all by itself. Everybody in Dhobitalao had 
a relative or villager in Wellington. Outside Wellington were all sorts of 
trades-people - tailors, darners, cobblers and others.  All were excellent 
craftsmen and I remember my dad taking me to a
cobbler there to custom make my leather shoes even though we lived in 
Byculla. Perhaps part of the reason might have been the opportunity to visit 
one of his friends wh

[Goanet] Get that visa !

[eric pinto]

             A large stone inscription marks the church altar in Malacca,
  built around 1650.  It is in memory of the Goan priest who built it,
  'natural de Benaulim' is how he is described.  I have forgotten the name.
  Mascarenhas, perhaps.  The Eurasians speak Portuguese: you will not encounter
  the original folk, a plaque in town tells you that all 7000 starved during the
Dutch siege that lasted two years.  One can visit what was once the site of a 
grave
for SFX, the rest lasting two years.  Governor Durbao lies there too, he had 
founded Durban, in Natal Province.   The local food is a tasty blend.        
eric.
-




At Hanoi Airport, we were not allowed to board the flight to Kuala Lumpur.
Thought we got visas on arrival like elsewhere, but the Malaysians don't like
Indians anymore it seems... they insist on pre-visas. So we had to scramble to 
change
flights and get to Bombay direct.   s.

[Goanet] The Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1878 - Impact on Goa.

[eric pinto]

          Excerpts from a paper by Dr. Teresa Albuquerque of the Heras 
Institute,
St. Xavier's College, Bombay, dated  September, 1990.  We are grateful
to Prof. Albuquerque.
-
          The treaty was a product of colonialism. One nation was in the fading 
twilight
of its glory, the other at its prime.  Goa was merely a pawn in the game.
          In 1872, the Bombay Government terminated the Mughul firman under 
which
Portuguese goods were imported into Surat at a special duty of 2.5 percent. 
Portugal
reacted by claiming compensation, in London.
           Negotiations were protracted.  Portugal demanded an extension of the 
nearby 
railway line in India to the harbour of Marmagoa. The British were not eager. 
Bombay 
was their first priority, and they contemplated a rail link to Karwar. They 
gave in  
ultimately, as they desired a common tariff with Portugal.
            When Portugal offered to stand financial security for any firm that 
would undertake 
the extension, England relented.    Consequently, the the Anglo-Portuguese 
treaty was 
signed in December 1878 in Lisbon.
            The agreement called for the construction of a railway line from 
Hubli to Marmagoa,
abolition of duties at frontiers, uniformity of duties at maritime ports and 
and on spirits, and 
the control of salt and opium output in Goa.  The British agreed to pay the 
Portuguese 
Government the sum of four lakhs annually for twelve years, to guarantee the 
British firm's
railway project.  The British monopoly of salt was now extended.
            It did seem initially that the treaty was bearing excellent 
results.  The price of various 
items of consumption came down. The revenue of Portuguese India more than 
doubled 
from 1864 t0 1888.  In 1861, a contract with the Portuguese Guaranteed Railway 
was sealed,
and development of Marmagoa harbour was also undertaken.
          Treaty provisions handed control of the salt manufacture and 
distribution in Goa to 
the British in return for an annual payment of Rs. 400,000.  An annual 
allowance of 14 lbs.
of salt was made available to each subject at a low rate.  This quota was 
considered insufficient.
The high-handed manner of supervision of salt-pan operations was also resented. 
When the 
Bombay Salt Department raised the duty in 1888, heavy smuggling was conducted 
across the ghats.
         The tax on toddy-coconut trees was haiked from Rs.4 to Rs.6 to 
streamline rates with
India. This was correctly anticipated as a measure that would extinguish one of 
the few 
industries in Goa. In 1981, there was a general strike of toddy-drawers in 
protest against the tax.
         In January 1892, the treaty term was completed and it was not renewed. 
Goa soon reverted 
to its former condition.  To keep is head above water, the government went on a 
rash-course of 
over taxation. Heavy custom tariffs paid no heed to protecting local industry.
         The jaggery industry almost came to a standstill. Many changed to 
distillation of liquor.
Conducted illicitly, this proved very lucrative. Excise duty on palm liquor was 
not enforced.
Yet excise duty on several articles of consumption were raised nine times 
higher. Britain also
stopped import of salt from Goa.
         A freight-war saw rates slashed by the mighty GIP and Southern Maratha 
Railways.
The tiny railroad in Goa could nit compete and in 1902 it was taken over by the 
Madras Southern.
Cargo was diverted away from Marmagoa to Karwar, reaching 78% by 1926.  
Cunha-Braganza
proclaimed: Goa is subject to a two-fold Portuguese and British imperial 
exploitation.
        With the economy coming to a grinding halt, many migrated to British 
India.  A trickle 
around 1828, it gradually increased and in 1874 the number who left was 5900.  
In 1888, the 
mass movement gathered momentum, and almost a sixth of the population 
emigrated. An 
estimate taken in 1926 recorded 120,000 scattered across the world- 40,000 of 
them in Bombay.
         Ironically, it was their earnings, however meager, which saved their 
financial situation in
Goa from becoming more chaotic. In 1927 the remittances of emigrants in British 
India were
said to have amounted to over Rs. 1,25,00,000/- per year.  K. N. Menon 
pronounced: "In 
Bombay city alone there are 10,000 Goan domestics, and more than 3000 tailors, 
while music 
shops and bands are their monopoly. Their are thousands of Goans in clerical 
posts in industrial
towns in India, and a very large number of Goans occupying high positions as 
doctors, lawyers
and professors.  Their remittances to Goa estimated at fifty million rupees a 
year enable the 
middle class keep up a reasonable standard of living, provide money for 
education, and make good
the trade deficit.
        The Portuguese Government inflicted an emigration tax on those who 
tried to leave for
a better life.  This amounted to Rs. 50,

[Goanet] When religion is 'rice,' and agnostic.

[eric pinto]

     My Christian grandmother, when her chickens had sprung 30 eggs a month on
   a diet of USAID wheat in 1965 -  " they are possessed by an American devil."
     
---
.               A friend wrote an editor -
            
The EditorSir,
>
>
>Goa Chief Minister Parrrikar's recent statement that Catholics in India (read 
>Goa) are culturally Hindus on the premise that they do not worship in the same 
>way as Catholics in other countries do, is  disingenuous and spurious. We use 
>the same prayers, the same hymns, and conduct the same rituals in India as 
>Catholics all over the world. We just do it in our own languages, as they do 
>theirs. 
>
>
>This is evidence, if indeed evidence was required, that we are culturally 
>Indians. Not Hindus.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yours faithfully,
>
>
>
>>

[Goanet] In bad Sao Paolo !

[eric pinto]

  At gun point: my brother's car, wallet, phone and glasses off his nose.
 Relieved he was permitted to keep his trousers.      eric.



 
 

This is not the first time! Nascy is falling for it time and again! I have
reported this to the Met as there is a contact phone number, hope they can
do something to bring the culprits to book!




On 16 September 2013 13:12, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Not you, Nascy! How could you fall for the guiles of this trickster? FN
>
> On 16 September 2013 12:27, Nascy Caldeira  wrote:
>
> >  This message may be coming to you as a surprise but I need your help.
> Few
> > days back I made an unannounced vacation trip to United Kingdom.
> > Everything was going fine until last night when I got mugged on my way
> back
> > to the hotel. They stole all my cash, credit cards and cell phone but
> thank
> > God I still have my life and passport.
> >
>
>
> FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
>



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] History of Bandra

[eric pinto]

      Pre-script: Portgal had gifted Bandra to a soldier, Homem.
He had agreed to manage of battery of cannons to defend against
Omani pirates. Homem in turn willed the town to the Carmelites
who used all revenues to support St. Paul's College in Old Goa.
       
--- 
Subject   :   History of Bandra 
 
>*History of Bandra*  
>
>Bandra was a tiny fishing village inhabited farmers and fishermen. It was 
>acquired by the British East India Company while the rest of Bombay belonged 
>to the Portuguese. There was an 18 hole golf course in Bandra called Danda 
>Green with an English style Club House on the top of the hill, surrounded by 
>trees.
>Membership was only for the British who lived in Pali Hill.. Each cottage had 
>a stable for horses.
>
>Bandra consisted of the villages Sherly, Malla, Rajan, Kantwady, 
>Waroda,Ranwar, Boran, Pali and Chuim. Ranwar also had a tennis court and the 
>famous Ranwar Club famous for its Christmas and New Year eve dances. Most 
>adults in Bandra worked for the East India Company... and hence were called 
>East Indians.
>
>In the Bandra of the forties and earlier, large cottages with large gardens 
>were available for rent at Rs 30 a month. Marriages were celebrated for 8 days 
>from Thursday to Thursday for a Sunday wedding and the whole village was 
>invited. Thursday was pig slaughter day and Friday was to make pappads for 
>drinks, Saturday to make fugias and bring water from the village well to bathe 
>the bride or groom. Sunday was the wedding ceremony and long reception.. 
>Monday was day of rest and to finish remaining food and on Tuesday the feet of 
>guests were washed in exchange for cash. Then farewell dinner on Wed and 
>guests left on Thursday by which time honeymoon was over.
>
>Tradition has it that the suburb was originally known as Vandra or Ape as it 
>was the home of monkeys, then Bandor as the Portuguese called it in 1505, then 
>called Bandera, Bandura, Bandore, Pandara, Bandorah, Bandara and finally 
>Bandra till a railway sign board finalized it at the end of the last century. 
>Salsette was originally separated by a tidal creek which Portuguese called 
>Bandora creek. English changed it to Mahim creek. Bandra had 2 hills, Mount 
>Mary hill and Pali hill. On 12th Apr 1867 the first railway service was 
>inaugurated with one train per day between Virar and Bombay.
>
>Bandra at one time was peopled mainly by East Indians (original residents of 
>Bombay Salsette, Bassein, and Thana), a few Goans and Manglorian immigrants, 
>Parsis, Muslims, Europeans and Hindu Kolis. Till as late as the 30's Bandra 
>had only one bus service from Pali Naka, Hill road to the Rly station. Other 
>people just walked to the nearest Rly station.
>After World War II the building boom started to accommodate immigrants.
>
>The five oldest roads in Bandra are as follows: Godbunder Road, which 
>originally ran from Mahim causeway, then skirted Bazaar Road, went past the 
>Bandra talab (lake) and continued to Godbunder. The Road was later made 
>straight by cutting through the talab. Bazaar Road began at Godbunder Road 
>opposite the mosque and ran through the market keeping close to the coast 
>which is now the reclamation. Hill Road starting from the station went through 
>middle of Bandra town, past St. Andrews to terminate at the foot of the Mount 
>near Mehboob studio.
>
>Pali Road began at St. Peter's and cut through Pali village till it reached 
>Danda. BJ Road runs from St. Andrews to Lands End, was built by Byramjee 
>Jeejeebhoy and opened to public in 1878.
>
>There are over 150 crosses at various places. Many crosses were built to ward 
>off the plague epidemic (1896-1906). The oldest is the one relocated in St. 
>Andrew's church compound. Stands 17ft high and made of a single stone. It was 
>originally in the Jesuit seminary of St Anne built in 1610.
>
>The bldg was destroyed in 1739 and the cross was relocated to St. Andrew's 
>church. The surface is carved all over with 39 emblems of the passion of 
>Christ. Bazaar Road is only 2 km long but houses a Jain temple, Ram Mandir, 
>Hanuman temple, Khoja mosque, Christian chapel and a Sikh gurduwara.
>
>Main roads in Bandra, Perry, Carter, Bullock, Kane, and Bates were named after 
>British collectors and magistrates. Mr. Carter was collector in 1924 and Mr. 
>Bullock was the Chief Magistrate.
>
>Christians in Bandra are mostly of the Koli, Bhandari and Kunbi castes. The 
>architect of Mount Mary's church was a Bombay architect Shahpoorjee 
>Chandabhoy. The basilica was built in 1904 at a cost of 1 lakh. Also the first 
>time a non-Catholic was asked to build the church. It was built to serve the 
>garrison posted at Castella de Aguada - the fort at Land's End road. It was 
>destroyed in a fire in 1739 and rebuilt in 1761, the year marking beginning of 
>Bandra feast as it is celebrated today.
>
>The walls enclosing the compound of St. Andrew's churc

[Goanet] US BOOKS

[eric pinto]

       Happy to pick up in NY and ferry - December.
   Lord Ring likes home made wine !      eric.

[Goanet] Help to buy and send two books from the US

[eric pinto]

       Ring will split, Santoshbab willing.    eric.


 From: eric pinto 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"  
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:45 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Help to buy and send two books from the US
 

Courier, Sir Ringadoo, available.      eric.



From: Frederick FN Noronha 


Dear all: Can anyone help me on this one please? I need someone to buy and
despatch to Goa a couple of reasonably-priced books from the US. In return
I will send two books from Goa. Kindly let me know if possible. Thanks in
advance! FN
--
FN  Land +91-832-240-9490 Cell  +91-982-212-2436 f...@goa-india.org

[Goanet] Help to buy and send two books from the US

[eric pinto]

Courier, Sir Ringadoo, available.      eric.



 From: Frederick FN Noronha 
 

Dear all: Can anyone help me on this one please? I need someone to buy and
despatch to Goa a couple of reasonably-priced books from the US. In return
I will send two books from Goa. Kindly let me know if possible. Thanks in
advance! FN
--
FN  Land +91-832-240-9490 Cell  +91-982-212-2436 f...@goa-india.org

[Goanet] Mango: The New Diabetes & Cancer Buster

[eric pinto]

   Mango: 
The New Diabetes & Cancer Buster
> 
>Do you believe in this ? The leading guy who did the research is a PhD fella 
>and not a doctor ! All these while I thought blood sugar will dramatically 
>increase with consumption of Mangoestry this and then measure your blood 
>sugar !Looks like the world is turning upside down now !
> 
> 
>Incredible news!
> 
>  
>Monday, May 20, 2013 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer 
>(NaturalNews) The most popular fresh fruit in the world, mangoes are a whole 
>lot more than just a delicious, refreshing treat produced by nature. As 
>evidenced by copious scientific research, mangoes are also a powerful 
>medicinal food, as they contain nutrients that can help clear up skin, promote 
>eye health, stave off diabetes, and even prevent the formation and spread of 
>cancer. 
> 
> 
>
> 
>Research recently presented at a meeting of the Federation of American 
>Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB), for instance, revealed that eating 
>mangoes every day can help moderate and even lower blood sugar levels, despite 
>their natural sugar content. This is good news for people with type 2 diabetes 
>who may benefit from consuming mangoes regularly as part of a low-sugar diet.
> 
> 
>For their study, researchers tested the effects of mangoes on a group of obese 
>animals, some of whom were given 10 grams of freeze-dried mango every day for 
>12 weeks. At the end of three months, the blood sugar levels of those animals 
>that consumed mango were compared to those that did not consume mango. Based 
>on the data, mango consumption was found to result in a significant decline in 
>blood sugar levels.
>
>"Although the mechanism by which mango exerts its effects warrants further 
>investigation, we do know that mangoes contain a complex mixture of 
>polyphenolic compounds," says Dr. Edralin Lucas, Ph.D., author of the study.
>
>Similar research out of Australia found back in 2006 that eating mango can 
>also help decrease inflammation and resulting high cholesterol, as well as 
>block the formation of various health conditions included under the banner of 
>metabolic syndrome. In essence, mangoes actually
 work better than cholesterol drugs at naturally balancing and optimizing 
cellular function throughout the body. 
> 
> 
>
>"We don't know yet how the whole thing's going to play out but we know some of 
>the individual components (of mango) activate these receptors and even inhibit 
>them," said a doctor from University of Queensland about the effects of mango 
>consumption on cellular processes. "That could end up with positive 
>nutritional health benefits for diabetes and high cholesterol."
>
>And again in 2011, researchers from Oklahoma State University found that mango 
>consumption helps lower insulin resistance and improve glucose tolerance in 
>test mice. The same study also found that mangoes help normalize lipid levels 
>throughout the blood, which in turn can help prevent the development of 
>cardiovascular disease.
> 
>Eating mangoes can also help you avoid cancer 
>But the health benefits of mango do not stop here. Science has identified more 
>than 4,000 different antioxidant polyphenols in the plant kingdom, and many of 
>these polyphenols are present in mangoes. The primary benefit of these 
>polyphenols is that they scavenge damaging free radicals and protect cells 
>against damage, which is believed to facilitate and even promote cancer.
> 
> 
>"If you look at [mango] from the physiological and nutritional standpoint, 
>taking everything together, it would be a high-ranking superfood," says Dr. 
>Susanne Talcott, who together with her husband discovered back in 2010 that 
>mango compounds target both colon and breast cancer cells.
>
>"What we found is that not all cell lines are sensitive to the same extent to 
>an anticancer agent. But the breast and colon cancer lines underwent 
>apoptosis, or programmed cell death. Additionally, we found that when we 
>tested normal colon cells side by side with the colon cancer cells, that the 
>mango polyphenolics did not harm the normal cells."
>
>In other words, mango compounds effectively target and eliminate harmful 
>cancer cells while leaving healthy cells alone, a phenomenon that is unique to 
>nature and nowhere to be found in pharmaceutical-based medicine. Chemotherapy 
>and radiation, for instance, which are the
 two most popular conventional treatments for cancer, damage healthy cells 
along with malignant cells, which is why the treatments are a failure as far as 
long-term survival is concerned.
>  
>
>
>Sources for this article include:
>http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/why-you-need-more-mango
>http://www.diabetes.co.uk/
>http://agnews.tamu.edu/showstory.php?id=1686

[Goanet] Hindu Suria.

[eric pinto]

         Things looking bleak for them, Rolly.   Once home to 80,000
Christians,  Aleppo has none left, today.  Very little remains of the historical
city, just rubble.
         If the Galilee is special to the Christian ethos, much as Bam in Iran 
is to
Zarusthrans and Medina to Muslims, then Ugarit-Aleppo lives very much in my
Hindu heart.  It was here that Baal and consort Anath first made an appearance
on Mount Sapan, with Kumarbi somewhere in the zone.  Supreme for milleneia, 
Baal had to battle the Semitic Yahweh for hearts and minds: he would lose the 
fight,
 eventually,unable to deliver what was expected of a god in a desert- rain.  He 
moved
to a secure home, Iran, along with some of his Arya wards. The Kaltics 
freelanced
westerly, the Dunaris north to Germania, both turning pagan-barbarian in the 
process. Yahweh's great- grandson, the Christ, attempted to make amends, in 
later years.
        Suria and Iran should reclaim history, and discard the false messengers 
who 
never ceased to crawl out of the barren Great Rift.     eric.



 From: Roland Francis 

[Goanet] Setting an example.

[eric pinto]

     Our friend will remain anonymous.    eric.


Re your posting on GoaNet..

For several years in my vaddo of      , i roamed the streets picking up litter, 
mostly 
paper and plastic packaging flung from buses, and empty bottles etc.  I picked 
them up with my
"picker-upper" gadget, put them in a garbage bag, took them far away and burnt 
the lot.  The hardest job was getting rid of the glass bottles.  Having a clean 
vaddo makes everyone happy.

Result of my efforts ?  My fellow villagers, seeing this bhatkar pick up trash 
were obviously ashamed
and there was a conscious effort to keep their surroundings clean.  Now, our 
local MLA instituted
door to door Garbage collection which made my work redundant.The rag pickers 
roaming the streets picking up plastic items has also been of immense help.

It can be done.  We have to swallow our pride, have some civic sense, and 
leading by example people will follow.'

Please DO NOT PUBLISH this

[Goanet] Tidyness abroad.

[eric pinto]

     In little towns, litter, rare, does get picked up.
Harry Pickles, 75, retired Birmingham police officer, walks around Assagao with 
a long-handle
tong and bag, picking up native thrash.      eric.


Camillo Fernandes camillofernandes at hotmail.com on Tue Sep
10 23:54:01 PDT 2013 wrote:

“Foreigners pick up brooms, to sweep Panaji streets.

Where are the Goans ?”



POINTS TO PONDER:

Has anyone the statistics of how many Goans sweep the streets the world
over?

Do these foreigners sweep the streets back home?



Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.                          

[Goanet] Collecting US benefits.

[eric pinto]

when he gets to retirement age he will probably claim U.S. Social Security

payments as well  ?
--
    One collects a regular benefit at 65 after  paying into the system for ten 
years, at least.
It is around 8% of your income.  One collects even when living abroad.
    Those who did not pay into the system, like senior immigrants and the 
disabled, pick up 
a smaller 'supplemental' amount of around a thousand a month.
    Joe Pinto-Clarke lived off the British system, in Goa.  He had never worked 
in Britain,
but his father was a Kent native who had moved to India.  Joe had lived in 
Canada, so he 
also collected ---:  you get the picture.                eric.

[Goanet] Old scores !

[eric pinto]

      Any child born in the US is a citizen, a birth right: but not Canadian  
offspring.  There are towns along the long border which share facilities 
like hospitals.  No hard feelings around when an infant is born on the 
wrong side of the border: back home to sing the right anthem.
     I am not sure if any of this codified, it may just be tradition.      eric.



 From: Mervyn Lobo 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"  
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Due-all citizenship should be the motto
 

Vivian A. DSouza wrote:
> Citizens of the USA  by law are automatically considered to  have renounced 
> US citizenship 
> if they acquire the passport of another country, or join the Armed Forces of 
> another country.


Bwana D'Souza,
1) There are three people in my household who hold both US and Canadian 
citizenship.
2) It is a long, long process to renounce US citizenship. The first step is to 
prove that you have paid all your taxes.
Mervyn

[Goanet] Syria’s Christians Risk Eradication

[eric pinto]

Another related viewpoint 

Ranjit 
=

Syria’s Christians Risk Eradication


A post-Assad Islamist regime threatens to re-enact the Armenian
genocide.

By PHILIP JENKINS • September 4, 2013

U.S. policy towards Syria is bafflingly inconsistent. If
U.S. leaders are so concerned about regimes slaughtering thousands of
their own people, did they notice what just happened in Egypt? If they
are so exercised over about weapons of mass destruction, are they aware
that Israel has two hundred nuclear warheads, with delivery systems? Will
American warships in the region be making those other stops on their
liberating mission?

Most puzzling of all, though, is why the United States seems so
determined to eradicate Christianity in one of its oldest heartlands, at
such an agonizingly sensitive historical moment.

Syria has always been a complex place religiously. Although the country
has a substantial Sunni Muslim majority, it also has large minority
communities­Christians, Alawites, and others­who together make up over a
quarter of the population. Those communities have survived very
successfully in Syria for centuries, but the present revolution is a
threat to their continued existence.

Sadly, Westerners tend to assume that Arabs are, necessarily, Muslims,
and moreover, that Muslims are a homogeneous bunch. Actually, 10 percent
of Syrians are Alawites, members of a notionally Islamic sect that
actually draws heavily from Christian and even Gnostic roots: they even
celebrate Christmas. Locally, they were long known as Nusayris,
“Little Christians.” Syria is also home to several hundred thousand
Druze, who are even further removed from Sunni orthodoxy.

And then there are the Christians. If Christianity began in Galilee and
Judea, it very soon made its cultural and intellectual home in Syria. St.
Paul famously visited Damascus, and for centuries Antioch was one of the
world’s greatest Christian centers. (The city today stands just over the
Turkish border.) A sizable Christian population flourished under Islamic
rule, and continued under the Ottomans. Muslim and Christian populations
always interacted closely here. A shrine in Damascus’s Great Mosque
claims to be the location of John the Baptist’s head.

Christian numbers fluctuated dramatically over time. A hundred years ago,
“Syria,” broadly defined, was home to a large and diverse Christian
population, including Catholics, Orthodox, and Maronites. In the 1920s,
the French arbitrarily carved out the country’s most Christian sections
and designated that region “Lebanon,” with its capital at
Beirut.

In theory, that partition should have drawn a clear line between
Christian Lebanon and non-Christian Syria. But Syria itself was changing
in the aftermath of the catastrophic events of the First World War. The
year 1915 marked the beginning of the horrendous genocide of perhaps 1.5
million Armenians, as well as hundreds of thousands of Assyrians,
Maronites, and other Christian groups. After the war, Christians
increasingly concentrated in Syria, where they benefited from French
protection.

Arab Christians, though, were anything but imperial puppets. Determined
to avoid a repetition of the horrors of 1915, Christians struggled to
create a new political order in which they could play a full role. This
meant advocating fervent Arab nationalism, a thoroughly secular order in
which Christians and other minorities could avoid being overwhelmed by
the juggernaut power of Sunni Islam. All Arab peoples, regardless of
faith, would join in a shared passion for secular modernity and pan-Arab
patriotism, in stark contrast to reactionary Islamism. The pioneering
theorist of modern Arab nationalism was Damascus-born Orthodox Christian
Constantine Zureiq. Another Orthodox son of Damascus was Michel Aflaq,
co-founder of the Ba’ath (Renaissance) Party that played such a pivotal
role in the modern history of both Iraq and Syria.

Since the 1960s, Syria has been a Ba’athist state, which in practice has
meant the hegemony of the religious minorities who dominate the country’s
military and intelligence apparatus. Hafez al-Assad (President from 1971
through 2000) was of course an Alawite, but by the 1990s, five of his
seven closest advisers were Christian. His son Bashar is the current
president, and America’s nemesis in the region.

Quite apart from their political influence, Christians have done very
well indeed in modern Syria. Although they try to avoid drawing too much
attention, it is no secret that Aleppo (for instance) has a highly active
Christian population. Christian numbers have even grown significantly
since the 1990s, as Iraqis fled the growing chaos in that country.
Officially, Christians today make up around 10 percent of Syria’s people,
but that is a serious underestimate, as it omits so many refugees, not to
mention thinly disguised crypto-believers. A plausible Christian figure
is at least 15

[Goanet] US citizens - No fence sitters.

[eric pinto]

 Vivian has the facts.   The paranoia dates back to the revolution.
Every last Philadephia native was hounded to, and over the Canadian
border.  My own Township of Flushing defied Washington, the Council
voting 'loyal to the king'  unanimously.  Washington had them arrested,
deported to Canada when hostilites had ended.    eric.



 


"Citizens of the USA  by law are automatically considered to  have renounced US 
citizenship if they acquire the passport of another country"

COMMENT:

My limited knowledge of US law does not permit me to definitively confirm the 
above quoted statement from Vivian.

On the contrary, unless directed to the "Law" Vivian is 'quoting', I am led to 
believe that Vivian is, in all probability, misrepresenting the position of the 
US wrt dual or even multiple nationalities.

jc

[Goanet] Goanathlete!!

[eric pinto]

 
                      yesteryear ' s Goan Olympian athlete Mary D'souza.  

> 
> 
>http://goenchimathi.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/62-years-later-mary-dsouza-pioneer-of-women-athletics-in-india-will-finally-be-honored/
> 
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[Goanet] Barclays expects rupee at 61 in 6-12 months

[eric pinto]

     The key, Gabe, inflows have gone dry.  
The latter day Roths only back winners.   eric.
--

India should be able to almost fully fund its current account deficit in
the 2014 financial year " unless capital inflows surprise further on
                                     
downside, the note states."
---


Barclays' INR forecast is less bearish than many recent forecasts. Deutsche
predicted USD/INR to go to 70 in a month or so, while Credit Agricole said
it does not see fundamental value below 70.

(Reporting by Subhadip Sircar)
BUSINESS 




-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] The Rupee...

[eric pinto]

      
    Half of Bihar coal smoulders below ground.  We should have 
let the Armenians stay on.  Same story in Luzerne, Pennsylvania.
    Goa ore smelted in Japan and the West accounted for the steel 
in twenty percent of the cars built there: to think that Tata Steel 
was the Asia's first !
    Dastoor and Mittal gave twenty countries mills, were untouchables
in India.  Shapoorjee Pallonjee erected auto plants all over Asia, Soviet 
satellites excluded.   The story of our life.  Pashtuns shot the wrong PM
in 1952.          eric.


 From: Gabe Menezes