Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-05-14 Thread Ian Bambury
Hi Raveev,
It was the Classic version.

Ian

2009/5/14 Rajeev Dayal 

> Sorry that this still isn't working for you. If you look at your error log
> (Window -> Show View -> Error Log), do you see any exceptions there?
>
> Also, which distribution of Eclipse are you using? I can tell that you're
> using Eclipse 3.4, but did you install Classic, Java Developers, J2EE?
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
>
>> OK, complete reinstall, and it still doesn't appear. I don't get the
>> licence agreement, but I do get told to restart.
>> Not sure if the image will get through, but it shows the plugin as
>> installed, but nothing on the toolbar.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>>
>>> Hey Ian,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>>
 If I get a spare time-slot I'll give it a go again, but as I said a
 couple of emails ago, I did that 2 days ago to remove the GEP after I 
 needed
 to get rid of it. Therefore, the latest install *was* clean (apart from a
 few preferences I'd changed and importing my formatting settings. Windows
 was only re-installed from scratch about 4 weeks ago. You can't be
 suggesting that everyone ought to re-install Eclipse from scratch and than
 immediately install the GEP before they even leave the welcome screen it
 they want to be sure, can you
>>>
>>>
>>> No, not at all. A clean install of Eclipse isn't required to install GEP;
>>> I was just worried that you were installing on top of a broken GEP
>>> installation. But, as you pointed out (and I apparently missed), the latest
>>> install was clean. There are no concerns with preferences/formatting
>>> settings, etc. My main concern was remaining artifacts from a partial GEP
>>> install.
>>>
>>>
 And I know you keep giving me the longinstall link, but I have only ever
 been trying to install the plugin and GWT 1.6.4 SDK. Even it that weren't
 the case, surely progress would have increased by at least 1 percent when
 left for 8 or 9 hours overnight?

>>>
>>> Even if you're just installing the plugin without the SDK - the
>>> instructions in that link still apply.  Whenever you install ANY new plugin
>>> on Eclipse 3.4, the behavior described in that FAQ entry will occur. The
>>> code for computing the requirements/dependencies for a plugin in Eclipse 3.4
>>> is riddled with problems. It is also brittle in the sense that it can get
>>> hung up/stuck while attempting to connect to other update sites in an effort
>>> to resolve dependencies. I think that's what happened in your case - it
>>> basically got stuck - that's why progress did not increase.
>>>
>>>
 But if I get a break where I don't need to use Eclipse for a while, I'll
 re-install it and try from scratch again.

>>>
>>> Thanks. If you keep running to problems, see the info mentioned here on
>>> how to do a manual install of the plugin:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/f127367d8a578013/dbbd67c1e79b03e3
>>>
>>>
>>>

 Ian

 http://examples.roughian.com


 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 

> Hey Ian,
>
> If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest:
>
> 1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely
> clean version of Eclipse
> 2) Start it up with a completely new workspace
> 3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the
> instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button:
> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall*
>
> That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in
> Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the
> install process.
>
> If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try
> and work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed
> plugin installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch.
>
>
> Rajeev
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>
>> Update...
>> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
>> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.
>>
>> I restarted Eclipse.
>>
>> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software
>> tab, but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.
>>
>> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
>> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
>> disabled.
>>
>> I'm a bit stuck for options here.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 
>>
>> Hi Rajeev,
>>> I've got:
>>>
>>> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000
>>>
>>> java.runtim

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-05-14 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Sorry that this still isn't working for you. If you look at your error log
(Window -> Show View -> Error Log), do you see any exceptions there?

Also, which distribution of Eclipse are you using? I can tell that you're
using Eclipse 3.4, but did you install Classic, Java Developers, J2EE?

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> OK, complete reinstall, and it still doesn't appear. I don't get the
> licence agreement, but I do get told to restart.
> Not sure if the image will get through, but it shows the plugin as
> installed, but nothing on the toolbar.
>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
>
> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>
>> Hey Ian,
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>
>>> If I get a spare time-slot I'll give it a go again, but as I said a
>>> couple of emails ago, I did that 2 days ago to remove the GEP after I needed
>>> to get rid of it. Therefore, the latest install *was* clean (apart from a
>>> few preferences I'd changed and importing my formatting settings. Windows
>>> was only re-installed from scratch about 4 weeks ago. You can't be
>>> suggesting that everyone ought to re-install Eclipse from scratch and than
>>> immediately install the GEP before they even leave the welcome screen it
>>> they want to be sure, can you
>>
>>
>> No, not at all. A clean install of Eclipse isn't required to install GEP;
>> I was just worried that you were installing on top of a broken GEP
>> installation. But, as you pointed out (and I apparently missed), the latest
>> install was clean. There are no concerns with preferences/formatting
>> settings, etc. My main concern was remaining artifacts from a partial GEP
>> install.
>>
>>
>>> And I know you keep giving me the longinstall link, but I have only ever
>>> been trying to install the plugin and GWT 1.6.4 SDK. Even it that weren't
>>> the case, surely progress would have increased by at least 1 percent when
>>> left for 8 or 9 hours overnight?
>>>
>>
>> Even if you're just installing the plugin without the SDK - the
>> instructions in that link still apply.  Whenever you install ANY new plugin
>> on Eclipse 3.4, the behavior described in that FAQ entry will occur. The
>> code for computing the requirements/dependencies for a plugin in Eclipse 3.4
>> is riddled with problems. It is also brittle in the sense that it can get
>> hung up/stuck while attempting to connect to other update sites in an effort
>> to resolve dependencies. I think that's what happened in your case - it
>> basically got stuck - that's why progress did not increase.
>>
>>
>>> But if I get a break where I don't need to use Eclipse for a while, I'll
>>> re-install it and try from scratch again.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. If you keep running to problems, see the info mentioned here on
>> how to do a manual install of the plugin:
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/f127367d8a578013/dbbd67c1e79b03e3
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>>>
 Hey Ian,

 If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest:

 1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely clean
 version of Eclipse
 2) Start it up with a completely new workspace
 3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the
 instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button:
 http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall*

 That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in
 Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the
 install process.

 If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try
 and work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed
 plugin installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch.


 Rajeev


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:

> Update...
> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.
>
> I restarted Eclipse.
>
> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software
> tab, but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.
>
> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
> disabled.
>
> I'm a bit stuck for options here.
>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
>
> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 
>
> Hi Rajeev,
>> I've got:
>>
>> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000
>>
>> java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03
>>
>> As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the
>> GEP and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no
>> install option is av

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Hey Ian,

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> If I get a spare time-slot I'll give it a go again, but as I said a couple
> of emails ago, I did that 2 days ago to remove the GEP after I needed to get
> rid of it. Therefore, the latest install *was* clean (apart from a few
> preferences I'd changed and importing my formatting settings. Windows was
> only re-installed from scratch about 4 weeks ago. You can't be suggesting
> that everyone ought to re-install Eclipse from scratch and than immediately
> install the GEP before they even leave the welcome screen it they want to be
> sure, can you


No, not at all. A clean install of Eclipse isn't required to install GEP; I
was just worried that you were installing on top of a broken GEP
installation. But, as you pointed out (and I apparently missed), the latest
install was clean. There are no concerns with preferences/formatting
settings, etc. My main concern was remaining artifacts from a partial GEP
install.


> And I know you keep giving me the longinstall link, but I have only ever
> been trying to install the plugin and GWT 1.6.4 SDK. Even it that weren't
> the case, surely progress would have increased by at least 1 percent when
> left for 8 or 9 hours overnight?
>

Even if you're just installing the plugin without the SDK - the instructions
in that link still apply.  Whenever you install ANY new plugin on Eclipse
3.4, the behavior described in that FAQ entry will occur. The code for
computing the requirements/dependencies for a plugin in Eclipse 3.4 is
riddled with problems. It is also brittle in the sense that it can get hung
up/stuck while attempting to connect to other update sites in an effort to
resolve dependencies. I think that's what happened in your case - it
basically got stuck - that's why progress did not increase.


> But if I get a break where I don't need to use Eclipse for a while, I'll
> re-install it and try from scratch again.
>

Thanks. If you keep running to problems, see the info mentioned here on how
to do a manual install of the plugin:

http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/f127367d8a578013/dbbd67c1e79b03e3



>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
>
> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>
>> Hey Ian,
>>
>> If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest:
>>
>> 1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely clean
>> version of Eclipse
>> 2) Start it up with a completely new workspace
>> 3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the
>> instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button:
>> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall*
>>
>> That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in
>> Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the
>> install process.
>>
>> If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try
>> and work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed
>> plugin installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch.
>>
>>
>> Rajeev
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>
>>> Update...
>>> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
>>> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.
>>>
>>> I restarted Eclipse.
>>>
>>> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software tab,
>>> but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.
>>>
>>> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
>>> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>> I'm a bit stuck for options here.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 
>>>
>>> Hi Rajeev,
 I've got:

 Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000

 java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03

 As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the
 GEP and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no
 install option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another
 way to check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't 
 show
 it.

 It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies"

 The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed
 compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time.

 I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put
 it back how I like it :-)  (only takes a moment)

 I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly
 uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next.

 Ian

 http://examples.roughian.com


 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 

 Hey Ian,
>
> Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem.
> Our plugin does not work if you're running 

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Ian Bambury
If I get a spare time-slot I'll give it a go again, but as I said a couple
of emails ago, I did that 2 days ago to remove the GEP after I needed to get
rid of it. Therefore, the latest install *was* clean (apart from a few
preferences I'd changed and importing my formatting settings. Windows was
only re-installed from scratch about 4 weeks ago. You can't be suggesting
that everyone ought to re-install Eclipse from scratch and than immediately
install the GEP before they even leave the welcome screen it they want to be
sure, can you
And I know you keep giving me the longinstall link, but I have only ever
been trying to install the plugin and GWT 1.6.4 SDK. Even it that weren't
the case, surely progress would have increased by at least 1 percent when
left for 8 or 9 hours overnight?

But if I get a break where I don't need to use Eclipse for a while, I'll
re-install it and try from scratch again.

Ian

http://examples.roughian.com


2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 

> Hey Ian,
>
> If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest:
>
> 1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely clean
> version of Eclipse
> 2) Start it up with a completely new workspace
> 3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the
> instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button:
> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall*
>
> That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in
> Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the
> install process.
>
> If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try and
> work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed plugin
> installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch.
>
>
> Rajeev
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
>
>> Update...
>> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
>> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.
>>
>> I restarted Eclipse.
>>
>> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software tab,
>> but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.
>>
>> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
>> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
>> disabled.
>>
>> I'm a bit stuck for options here.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 
>>
>> Hi Rajeev,
>>> I've got:
>>>
>>> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000
>>>
>>> java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03
>>>
>>> As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP
>>> and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no
>>> install option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another
>>> way to check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't show
>>> it.
>>>
>>> It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies"
>>>
>>> The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed
>>> compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time.
>>>
>>> I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put it
>>> back how I like it :-)  (only takes a moment)
>>>
>>> I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly
>>> uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>>>
>>> Hey Ian,

 Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem.
 Our plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, and
 some of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu
 contributions will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've
 been using Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin.

 I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4
 installs with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an 
 error
 dialog indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5
 JVM cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field.


 Rajeev



 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal wrote:

> Hey Ian,
>
> Thanks for the information. Responses inline:
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>
>> Hi Rajeev,
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>>  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean
>>> version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all 
>>> the
>>> failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to 
>>> uninstall
>>> the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start
>>> with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and 
>>> install
>>> again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentio

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Hey Ian,

If you're ok with reinstalling Eclipse, this is what I'd suggest:

1) Blow away your old version of Eclipse, and install a completely clean
version of Eclipse
2) Start it up with a completely new workspace
3) Try to install the plugin as before, *BUT make sure you follow the
instructions in this FAQ entry before hitting the install button:
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall*

That should get you going, and completely past the hangs that happen in
Eclipse 3.4 in the "Computing Requirements and Dependencies" step of the
install process.

If you're not ok with reinstalling Eclipse, let me know, and we can try and
work through removing all the old, corrupted artifacts of the failed plugin
installs so that you can install the plugin from scratch.


Rajeev

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> Update...
> I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
> changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.
>
> I restarted Eclipse.
>
> Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software tab,
> but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.
>
> I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
> Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
> disabled.
>
> I'm a bit stuck for options here.
>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
>
> 2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 
>
> Hi Rajeev,
>> I've got:
>>
>> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000
>>
>> java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03
>>
>> As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP
>> and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no
>> install option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another
>> way to check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't show
>> it.
>>
>> It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies"
>>
>> The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed
>> compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time.
>>
>> I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put it
>> back how I like it :-)  (only takes a moment)
>>
>> I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly
>> uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> http://examples.roughian.com
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>>
>> Hey Ian,
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem.
>>> Our plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, and
>>> some of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu
>>> contributions will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've
>>> been using Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin.
>>>
>>> I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4
>>> installs with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an error
>>> dialog indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5
>>> JVM cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rajeev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:
>>>
 Hey Ian,

 Thanks for the information. Responses inline:

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:

> Hi Rajeev,
> Thanks for the response.
>
>  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean
>> version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all 
>> the
>> failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to 
>> uninstall
>> the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start
>> with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and 
>> install
>> again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - 
>> they
>> will greatly speed up the install process).
>>
>
> It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install
> the GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31%
> completed, nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual 
> progress,
> just animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel
> button) and after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back 
> and
> nothing had changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.
>

 This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but I'm
 not sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that Eclipse 
 does
 not fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what text
 was in the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like "computing
 requirements and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe
 "installing"?


>
> The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or
> so. I

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Ian Bambury
Update...
I just uninstalled the GWT SDK, and then the plug-in and applied the
changes. Both disappeared from the Installed Software tab.

I restarted Eclipse.

Now I have 'Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.4' on the Installed Software tab,
but if I select it, the Uninstall button remains disabled.

I also have 'Plugin' under Google Update Site for Eclipse 3.4 on the
Available Software tab, but if I select it, the Install button remains
disabled.

I'm a bit stuck for options here.

Ian

http://examples.roughian.com


2009/4/21 Ian Bambury 

> Hi Rajeev,
> I've got:
>
> Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000
>
> java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03
>
> As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP
> and GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no
> install option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another
> way to check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't show
> it.
>
> It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies"
>
> The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed
> compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time.
>
> I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put it
> back how I like it :-)  (only takes a moment)
>
> I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly
> uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next.
>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
>
> 2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 
>
> Hey Ian,
>>
>> Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem. Our
>> plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, and some
>> of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu contributions
>> will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've been using
>> Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin.
>>
>> I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4
>> installs with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an error
>> dialog indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5
>> JVM cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field.
>>
>>
>> Rajeev
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. Responses inline:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rajeev,
 Thanks for the response.

  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean
> version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the
> failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to 
> uninstall
> the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start
> with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install
> again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they
> will greatly speed up the install process).
>

 It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install
 the GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31%
 completed, nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual 
 progress,
 just animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel
 button) and after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back and
 nothing had changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.

>>>
>>> This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but I'm
>>> not sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that Eclipse does
>>> not fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what text
>>> was in the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like "computing
>>> requirements and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe
>>> "installing"?
>>>
>>>

 The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or
 so. I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at all.

 Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and
 GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install
 option is available) and the AppEngine SDK.

>>>
>>> Does Installed Software also show the plugin as installed? Available
>>> Software should really not have any of the components as installable, if
>>> they've already been installed (unless you have the "Include items that have
>>> already been installed" checkbox checked).
>>>
>>>
>>>
 The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed last
 time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or
 right-clicking a project - nothing new)

>>>
>>> Try going to  Window -> Reset Perspective (or, on the Mac, Eclipse ->
>>> Reset Perspective). Does that help? Also, do you see any errors reported in
>>> the error log? Go to Window -> Show View -> Error Log (or, on the Mac,
>>> Ec

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Ian Bambury
Hi Rajeev,
I've got:

Eclipse Version: 3.4.0 - Build id: I20080617-2000

java.runtime.version=1.6.0_13-b03

As I said, if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and
GWT SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install
option is available) and the AppEngine SDK, but if there is another way to
check, just let me know - Help | About | Plug-in details doesn't show it.

It locked up during "computing requirements and dependencies"

The only errors to do with Google showing in the log are from failed
compiles back when I tried to use the GEP the first time.

I've reset the perspective - nothing happened except that I had to put it
back how I like it :-)  (only takes a moment)

I'm quite happy to play about if it's any use, but apart from repeatedly
uninstalling and re-installing, I'm not too sure what to do next.

Ian

http://examples.roughian.com


2009/4/21 Rajeev Dayal 

> Hey Ian,
>
> Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem. Our
> plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, and some
> of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu contributions
> will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've been using
> Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin.
>
> I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4 installs
> with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an error dialog
> indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5 JVM
> cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field.
>
>
> Rajeev
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:
>
>> Hey Ian,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. Responses inline:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rajeev,
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>
>>>  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean
 version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the
 failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to uninstall
 the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start
 with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install
 again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they
 will greatly speed up the install process).

>>>
>>> It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install
>>> the GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31%
>>> completed, nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual progress,
>>> just animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel
>>> button) and after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back and
>>> nothing had changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.
>>>
>>
>> This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but I'm
>> not sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that Eclipse does
>> not fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what text
>> was in the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like "computing
>> requirements and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe
>> "installing"?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or
>>> so. I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at all.
>>>
>>> Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and GWT
>>> SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install option
>>> is available) and the AppEngine SDK.
>>>
>>
>> Does Installed Software also show the plugin as installed? Available
>> Software should really not have any of the components as installable, if
>> they've already been installed (unless you have the "Include items that have
>> already been installed" checkbox checked).
>>
>>
>>
>>> The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed last
>>> time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or
>>> right-clicking a project - nothing new)
>>>
>>
>> Try going to  Window -> Reset Perspective (or, on the Mac, Eclipse ->
>> Reset Perspective). Does that help? Also, do you see any errors reported in
>> the error log? Go to Window -> Show View -> Error Log (or, on the Mac,
>> Eclipse -> Show View -> Error Log) to display the error log view.
>>
>>
>>>

 I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can happen
 when components are not properly installed, as you experienced. This should
 not be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse back in a
 working state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back to
 normal.

>>>
>>> Yes, despite unchecking the project as a GWT one in the GEP options, and
>>> after the uninstall apparently working OK, there were still GEP changes in
>>> there stopping the project working. Having sorted that out, as I said,
>>> context assist didn't know about GWT

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Hey Ian,

Just thought I'd mention that I tried something to repro your problem. Our
plugin does not work if you're running Eclipse under a pre-1.5 JVM, and some
of the symptoms that we've seen is that the plugin icons/menu contributions
will not show up. However, we've only seen this when we've been using
Eclipse's dev environment to debug the plugin.

I tried to repro this by running clean Eclipse 3.3 and Eclipse 3.4 installs
with a 1.4 JVM, but Eclipse did not even run - it threw up an error dialog
indicating that a 1.5+ JVM is required. So, it looks like a pre-1.5 JVM
cannot cause this sort of problem with the plugin out in the field.


Rajeev


On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:

> Hey Ian,
>
> Thanks for the information. Responses inline:
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
>
>> Hi Rajeev,
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>>  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean
>>> version of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the
>>> failed installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to uninstall
>>> the plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start
>>> with a clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install
>>> again (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they
>>> will greatly speed up the install process).
>>>
>>
>> It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install the
>> GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31% completed,
>> nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual progress, just
>> animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel button) and
>> after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back and nothing had
>> changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.
>>
>
> This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but I'm not
> sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that Eclipse does not
> fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what text was in
> the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like "computing requirements
> and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe "installing"?
>
>
>>
>> The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or
>> so. I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at all.
>>
>> Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and GWT
>> SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install option
>> is available) and the AppEngine SDK.
>>
>
> Does Installed Software also show the plugin as installed? Available
> Software should really not have any of the components as installable, if
> they've already been installed (unless you have the "Include items that have
> already been installed" checkbox checked).
>
>
>
>> The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed last
>> time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or
>> right-clicking a project - nothing new)
>>
>
> Try going to  Window -> Reset Perspective (or, on the Mac, Eclipse -> Reset
> Perspective). Does that help? Also, do you see any errors reported in the
> error log? Go to Window -> Show View -> Error Log (or, on the Mac, Eclipse
> -> Show View -> Error Log) to display the error log view.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can happen
>>> when components are not properly installed, as you experienced. This should
>>> not be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse back in a
>>> working state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back to
>>> normal.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, despite unchecking the project as a GWT one in the GEP options, and
>> after the uninstall apparently working OK, there were still GEP changes in
>> there stopping the project working. Having sorted that out, as I said,
>> context assist didn't know about GWT classes. That is now fixed, too.
>>
>> I tried the -clean option (thanks Isaac) but unfortunately it didn't make
>> any difference. That was after restarting Eclipse, then rebooting the
>> machine.
>>
>> I'm not particularly worried about getting it working. As I said, I was
>> only re-installing it in order to answer the questions I was asked before.
>>
>
> Thanks for going through all of this in order to give us some useful
> information. We appreciate it.
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-21 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Hey Ian,

Thanks for the information. Responses inline:

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> Hi Rajeev,
> Thanks for the response.
>
>  When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean version
>> of Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the failed
>> installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to uninstall the
>> plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start with a
>> clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install again
>> (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they will
>> greatly speed up the install process).
>>
>
> It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install the
> GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31% completed,
> nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual progress, just
> animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel button) and
> after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back and nothing had
> changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.
>

This is definitely odd. It must have been some network problem, but I'm not
sure which side it occurred on. One thing I do know is that Eclipse does not
fail gracefully in such situations. Do you remember exactly what text was in
the dialog at the time? Was it saying something like "computing requirements
and dependencies", or was it saying "downloading", or maybe "installing"?


>
> The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or so.
> I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at all.
>
> Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and GWT
> SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install option
> is available) and the AppEngine SDK.
>

Does Installed Software also show the plugin as installed? Available
Software should really not have any of the components as installable, if
they've already been installed (unless you have the "Include items that have
already been installed" checkbox checked).



> The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed last
> time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or
> right-clicking a project - nothing new)
>

Try going to  Window -> Reset Perspective (or, on the Mac, Eclipse -> Reset
Perspective). Does that help? Also, do you see any errors reported in the
error log? Go to Window -> Show View -> Error Log (or, on the Mac, Eclipse
-> Show View -> Error Log) to display the error log view.


>
>>
>> I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can happen
>> when components are not properly installed, as you experienced. This should
>> not be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse back in a
>> working state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back to
>> normal.
>>
>
> Yes, despite unchecking the project as a GWT one in the GEP options, and
> after the uninstall apparently working OK, there were still GEP changes in
> there stopping the project working. Having sorted that out, as I said,
> context assist didn't know about GWT classes. That is now fixed, too.
>
> I tried the -clean option (thanks Isaac) but unfortunately it didn't make
> any difference. That was after restarting Eclipse, then rebooting the
> machine.
>
> I'm not particularly worried about getting it working. As I said, I was
> only re-installing it in order to answer the questions I was asked before.
>

Thanks for going through all of this in order to give us some useful
information. We appreciate it.


>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
>
> >
>

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-20 Thread Ian Bambury
Hi Rajeev,
Thanks for the response.

When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean version of
> Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the failed
> installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to uninstall the
> plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start with a
> clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install again
> (but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they will
> greatly speed up the install process).
>

It was a clean, new Eclipse installation. I was only trying to install the
GEP and the GWT SDK, nothing else. Eclipse locked up showing 31% completed,
nothing moving except the progress indicator (no actual progress, just
animation). Cancel didn't do anything (except disable the cancel button) and
after some time - in the region of 30 minutes - I went back and nothing had
changed. There was no option but to kill it in task manager.

The second attempt of the current series, it installed in 30 seconds or so.
I'm not sure exactly, I was watching TV, but it wasn't long at all.

Now if I go to Software Updates, Installed Software shows the GEP and GWT
SDK as installed. Available Software shows the plugin (but no install option
is available) and the AppEngine SDK.

The IDE doesn't have the two icons I had when it finally installed last
time, ordinary menu options are also not there (in File|New, or
right-clicking a project - nothing new)


>
> I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can happen
> when components are not properly installed, as you experienced. This should
> not be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse back in a
> working state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back to
> normal.
>

Yes, despite unchecking the project as a GWT one in the GEP options, and
after the uninstall apparently working OK, there were still GEP changes in
there stopping the project working. Having sorted that out, as I said,
context assist didn't know about GWT classes. That is now fixed, too.

I tried the -clean option (thanks Isaac) but unfortunately it didn't make
any difference. That was after restarting Eclipse, then rebooting the
machine.

I'm not particularly worried about getting it working. As I said, I was only
re-installing it in order to answer the questions I was asked before.

Cheers,

Ian

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-20 Thread Rajeev Dayal
Hi Ian,

I'm sorry that your experience installing the plugin has been frustrating.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> 2009/4/20 Miguel Méndez 
>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ian Bambury wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to
>>> find any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
>>> classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
>>> hosted mode OK
>>> No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use
>>> the plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.
>>>
>>> It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
>>> when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
>>> work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
>>> surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
>>> plugin. It's a valid project.
>>>
>>
>> Were either of the detailed install instructions for eclipse 3.3 (
>> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.3.html ) or 3.4 (
>> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.4.html ) helpful?
>>  What problems, specifically, did you run into?
>>
>
> When I finally got it installed, then it does tell you what you should be
> aiming for. It does at least tell you that you did the 'proper' thing and
> therefore it should be working even if it isn't.
>
> But first there were errors downloading it, it just sat there working out
> dependencies. I left it for varying periods of up to an hour, but every time
> I had to kill it via Task Manager as Cancel didn't work (or hadn't atfer
> another hour).
>
> For example, in order to answer your questions, I have just tried to
> re-install the GEP and it hung the first time. It just sits there at 31%. On
> the first round of attempts, on about the 10th try, I left it overnight and
> in the morning after 8 hours it was still the same.
>

This is a problem, especially with Eclipse 3.4. See this FAQ entry:

http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/faq.html#longinstall


>
> On the second attempt (this time around), it installed (I think) but
> nothing shows up in the toolbar or on the menus despite restarting Eclipse,
> and then (when that didn't work) rebooting the computer.  Under Software
> Updates it shows as installed, but there's nothing new in the IDE. And I
> know this version *can* at least show up because it did before I gave up on
> it and uninstalled it.
>

When you tried to install it again, did you install it in a clean version of
Eclipse, or was it the version that you were using with all the failed
installation attempts? It may be the case that you need to uninstall the
plugin, and then try to reinstall it. Preferably, if possible, start with a
clean install of Eclipse and a clean workspace, and try and install again
(but follow the instructions in the FAQ entry mentioned above - they will
greatly speed up the install process).


> Uninstalling left the classpath screwed up on my (previously working), and
> having fixed that, context assist went missing from Eclipse for all Google
> elements. Literally hours of faffing about later, I was back where I was
> before installing it, having had to wipe out and re-install Eclipse and
> still un-screw what the GEP had done to my project.
>
>

> Like I say, if I knew what I was doing, then it would not take so long, but
> who does when they are using something new.
>

I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. Bad things can happen when
components are not properly installed, as you experienced. This should not
be the normal experience at all. Is your project/Eclipse back in a working
state? If not, let me know and I'll help you to get it back to normal.


> I dare say the instructions are fine were everything to install and work
> properly, I can't really say, having never got it to work - what I
> personally need is help when things don't work as per the instructions.
>
> Like now. The GEP is installed (apparently) but there are no icons in the
> toolbar or entries in the menus - and no instructions to help you out should
> that happen.
>
> If the GEP appears or if I have the time to uninstall/reinstall until it
> does, I will try to recreate what I did before so I can give proper
> details.
>


Thanks again. To reiterate, if you can start off with a clean Eclipse
install and a clean workspace, and try to reinstall the plugin, that would
be best. You can then re-import your existing project, but before doing
that, we'll need to modify your .classpath and .project files to get rid of
any existing plugin artifacts (really the references to the GWT and App
Engine SDKs, and refrences to the GWT/App Engine natures and builders).


>
> Ian
>
> >
>

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-20 Thread Isaac Truett

> Like now. The GEP is installed (apparently) but there are no icons in the
> toolbar or entries in the menus - and no instructions to help you out should
> that happen.

You might try starting Eclipse once with the "-clean" option. That
helps sometimes with plugins that won't show up.


On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
> 2009/4/20 Miguel Méndez 
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to
>>> find any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
>>> classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
>>> hosted mode OK
>>> No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use
>>> the plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.
>>> It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
>>> when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
>>> work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
>>> surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
>>> plugin. It's a valid project.
>>
>> Were either of the detailed install instructions for eclipse 3.3
>> (http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.3.html ) or 3.4
>> (http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.4.html ) helpful?
>>  What problems, specifically, did you run into?
>
> When I finally got it installed, then it does tell you what you should be
> aiming for. It does at least tell you that you did the 'proper' thing and
> therefore it should be working even if it isn't.
> But first there were errors downloading it, it just sat there working out
> dependencies. I left it for varying periods of up to an hour, but every time
> I had to kill it via Task Manager as Cancel didn't work (or hadn't atfer
> another hour).
> For example, in order to answer your questions, I have just tried to
> re-install the GEP and it hung the first time. It just sits there at 31%. On
> the first round of attempts, on about the 10th try, I left it overnight and
> in the morning after 8 hours it was still the same.
> On the second attempt (this time around), it installed (I think) but nothing
> shows up in the toolbar or on the menus despite restarting Eclipse, and then
> (when that didn't work) rebooting the computer.  Under Software Updates it
> shows as installed, but there's nothing new in the IDE. And I know this
> version *can* at least show up because it did before I gave up on it and
> uninstalled it.
> Uninstalling left the classpath screwed up on my (previously working), and
> having fixed that, context assist went missing from Eclipse for all Google
> elements. Literally hours of faffing about later, I was back where I was
> before installing it, having had to wipe out and re-install Eclipse and
> still un-screw what the GEP had done to my project.
> Like I say, if I knew what I was doing, then it would not take so long, but
> who does when they are using something new.
> I dare say the instructions are fine were everything to install and work
> properly, I can't really say, having never got it to work - what I
> personally need is help when things don't work as per the instructions.
> Like now. The GEP is installed (apparently) but there are no icons in the
> toolbar or entries in the menus - and no instructions to help you out should
> that happen.
> If the GEP appears or if I have the time to uninstall/reinstall until it
> does, I will try to recreate what I did before so I can give proper
> details.
> Ian
> >
>

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-20 Thread Ian Bambury
2009/4/20 Miguel Méndez 

>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
>
>> Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to find
>> any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
>> classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
>> hosted mode OK
>> No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use
>> the plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.
>>
>> It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
>> when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
>> work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
>> surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
>> plugin. It's a valid project.
>>
>
> Were either of the detailed install instructions for eclipse 3.3 (
> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.3.html ) or 3.4 (
> http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.4.html ) helpful?
>  What problems, specifically, did you run into?
>

When I finally got it installed, then it does tell you what you should be
aiming for. It does at least tell you that you did the 'proper' thing and
therefore it should be working even if it isn't.

But first there were errors downloading it, it just sat there working out
dependencies. I left it for varying periods of up to an hour, but every time
I had to kill it via Task Manager as Cancel didn't work (or hadn't atfer
another hour).

For example, in order to answer your questions, I have just tried to
re-install the GEP and it hung the first time. It just sits there at 31%. On
the first round of attempts, on about the 10th try, I left it overnight and
in the morning after 8 hours it was still the same.

On the second attempt (this time around), it installed (I think) but nothing
shows up in the toolbar or on the menus despite restarting Eclipse, and then
(when that didn't work) rebooting the computer.  Under Software Updates it
shows as installed, but there's nothing new in the IDE. And I know this
version *can* at least show up because it did before I gave up on it and
uninstalled it.

Uninstalling left the classpath screwed up on my (previously working), and
having fixed that, context assist went missing from Eclipse for all Google
elements. Literally hours of faffing about later, I was back where I was
before installing it, having had to wipe out and re-install Eclipse and
still un-screw what the GEP had done to my project.

Like I say, if I knew what I was doing, then it would not take so long, but
who does when they are using something new.

I dare say the instructions are fine were everything to install and work
properly, I can't really say, having never got it to work - what I
personally need is help when things don't work as per the instructions.

Like now. The GEP is installed (apparently) but there are no icons in the
toolbar or entries in the menus - and no instructions to help you out should
that happen.

If the GEP appears or if I have the time to uninstall/reinstall until it
does, I will try to recreate what I did before so I can give proper
details.

Ian

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Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-20 Thread Miguel Méndez
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ian Bambury  wrote:

> Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to find
> any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
> classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
> hosted mode OK
> No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use the
> plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.
>
> It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
> when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
> work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
> surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
> plugin. It's a valid project.
>

Were either of the detailed install instructions for eclipse 3.3 (
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.3.html ) or 3.4 (
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-eclipse-3.4.html ) helpful?
 What problems, specifically, did you run into?


>
> Why doesn't it assume that I still want to use the version of the SDK that
> I was using before? Why would anyone want to have a different version, which
> might well have methods removed - even between a release candidate being a
> candidate for release and actually being released?
>

When you enable GWT or App Engine on a project it lets you pick which SDK
version to use.  Right now, it limits you to the ones which you have
registered with the workspace.  So you should be able to add 1.6.2 to the
workspace as Alex described and select that SDK version for use with your
project.  You can find out more information about how we support multiple
versions of the SDK here:
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/using_sdks.html .


>
> Anyway, here's the current state of play.
>
>
> Compiling module com.roughian.rxframework.Module
>Refreshing module from source
>   Validating newly compiled units
>  Removing units with errors
> [ERROR] Errors in
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java'
>[ERROR] Line 11: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
> [ERROR] Errors in
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java'
>[ERROR] Line 73: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 78: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONValue; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 81: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONArray; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 111: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONBoolean; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 124: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONParser; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 222: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONNumber; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>[ERROR] Line 250: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONString; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>  Removing invalidated units
> [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemotePageCallback.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
> [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestInfoCallback.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
> [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequest.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>[WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/rough

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Rudnick

Ian,

Which jars did you take off the classpath? The errors you're getting
look like the compile step isn't getting the right jars on its cp.

All you should have to do to use the GWT 1.6.2 SDK is set that under
"Google > Web Toolkit" in your project's properties; manually changing
the classpath really shouldn't be necessary.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
> Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to find
> any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
> classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
> hosted mode OK
> No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use the
> plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.
> It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
> when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
> work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
> surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
> plugin. It's a valid project.
> Why doesn't it assume that I still want to use the version of the SDK that I
> was using before? Why would anyone want to have a different version, which
> might well have methods removed - even between a release candidate being a
> candidate for release and actually being released?
> Anyway, here's the current state of play.
>
> Compiling module com.roughian.rxframework.Module
>    Refreshing module from source
>       Validating newly compiled units
>          Removing units with errors
>             [ERROR] Errors in
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java'
>                [ERROR] Line 11: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>             [ERROR] Errors in
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java'
>                [ERROR] Line 73: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 78: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONValue; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 81: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONArray; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 111: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONBoolean; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 124: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONParser; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 222: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONNumber; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>                [ERROR] Line 250: No source code is available for type
> com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONString; did you forget to inherit a required
> module?
>          Removing invalidated units
>             [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemotePageCallback.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
>             [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestInfoCallback.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
>             [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequest.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
>             [WARN] Compilation unit
> 'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/SilentCallback.java'
> is removed due to invalid reference(s):
>                [WARN]
> file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
>                [

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Bambury
Well, I took the 1.6.4 SDK out since I'm developing and don't want to find
any nasty surprises. I added 1.6.2 via the GEP, took the jars off the
classpath and now the compile gives me the errors below. It compiles from
hosted mode OK
No doubt there are plans for the future, but I'm wondering how much use the
plugin would be to me right at the moment even it it were working.

It's taken a lot of time to get to this point: it wouldn't download, then
when it finally did, it wouldn't install, and now it's installed it doesn't
work. That's probably my fault because I don't know what I'm doing, but
surely if it worked before installing the plugin, it should work with the
plugin. It's a valid project.

Why doesn't it assume that I still want to use the version of the SDK that I
was using before? Why would anyone want to have a different version, which
might well have methods removed - even between a release candidate being a
candidate for release and actually being released?

Anyway, here's the current state of play.


Compiling module com.roughian.rxframework.Module
   Refreshing module from source
  Validating newly compiled units
 Removing units with errors
[ERROR] Errors in
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java'
   [ERROR] Line 11: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
[ERROR] Errors in
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java'
   [ERROR] Line 73: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 78: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONValue; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 81: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONArray; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 111: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONBoolean; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 124: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONParser; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 222: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONNumber; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
   [ERROR] Line 250: No source code is available for type
com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONString; did you forget to inherit a required
module?
 Removing invalidated units
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemotePageCallback.java'
is removed due to invalid reference(s):
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestInfoCallback.java'
is removed due to invalid reference(s):
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequest.java'
is removed due to invalid reference(s):
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/SilentCallback.java'
is removed due to invalid reference(s):
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemoteRequestCallback.java
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RXF.java
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemotePage.java'
is removed due to invalid reference(s):
   [WARN]
file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/com/roughian/rxframework/client/RemotePageCallback.java
[WARN] Compilation unit
'file:/D:/work/gwt/workspace/Projects/RXFramework-1.6.1.0/src/

Re: I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-17 Thread Alex Rudnick

Hey Ian,

If the plugin knows that you want to use GWT with your project, and
you installed the bundled GWT SDK, then you can take the other GWT
jars off your build path. Let us know if that fixes your problem?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Ian Bambury  wrote:
> ...I get warnings like:
> The following classpath entry 'D:\sys\gwt-windows-1.6.2\gwt-dev-windows.jar'
> will not be available on the server's classpath Kivivi-1.6.1.02 Unknown
> Google Web App Problem
> Any idea how to get rid of them?
> I also get
> [ERROR] Errors in
> 'jar:file:/D:/sys/eclipse/plugins/com.google.gwt.eclipse.sdkbundle.win32_1.6.4.v200904062334/gwt-windows-1.6.4/gwt-user.jar!/com/google/gwt/user/client/rpc/impl/FailedRequest.java'
> [ERROR] Line 25: The constructor Request() is undefined
> and other errors in hosted mode
> And it was all working fine before.
> :-(
> Ian

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I installed the GEP and now...

2009-04-17 Thread Ian Bambury
...I get warnings like:

The following classpath entry 'D:\sys\gwt-windows-1.6.2\gwt-dev-windows.jar'
will not be available on the server's classpath Kivivi-1.6.1.02 Unknown Google
Web App Problem

Any idea how to get rid of them?

I also get

[ERROR] Errors in
'jar:file:/D:/sys/eclipse/plugins/com.google.gwt.eclipse.sdkbundle.win32_1.6.4.v200904062334/gwt-windows-1.6.4/gwt-user.jar!/com/google/gwt/user/client/rpc/impl/FailedRequest.java'
[ERROR] Line 25: The constructor Request() is undefined

and other errors in hosted mode

And it was all working fine before.

:-(

Ian

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