Re: [H] Verizon DSL
Yes it can always still be the modem even if on the approved list since that list is slow to update. DocSIS 1.0 is most likely not going to go faster than 3mb/sec anyway even if stable. After the last round of Comcast network upgrades I was being told my SB4100 was not supported even though it's DocSIS 2.0 on the website's list. Replacement modem for $60 is on the high side IMHO: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=motorola+sb5* The Motorola SB5xxx is a good modem, pushing 8mb(1MB)/sec here happily for $53/mo. Combined with a WRT54GS v2 router Sveasoft Talisman firmware, a winning setup so far. Winterlight wrote: At 07:05 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: I had tons of problems with my BEFCMU10 for a while, and then picked up a Dlink Docsis 2.0 modem off of newegg.com with a rebate, and the problems went away. The cable companies (cox in my case) must have done an upgrade that caused problems with some of the older modems. Look on Newegg, find a nice one with a rebate, and try it out. Harry Well, if I can get one from COX like FP did for 60 bucks then I will do that in the morning. That way if it doesn't help I can blame them. m On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 18:56 -0800, Winterlight wrote: FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) So they will sell you a modem? At 06:27 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. Thing is my modem is a Linksys BEFCMU10, about three and half years old, that is on their approved list Standard Specification Compliant DOCSIS 1.0 Hardware Version 3.0 Software Version 1.0.7 (befcmu10v108-test0925.bin) Cable Modem MAC Address 00:06:25:AE:18:C6 Cable Modem Serial Number KBG2316676 CPE-end Interface Ethernet + USB CM certificate RSA Key Pair Installed You still think it could be the modem?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 6:57 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Verizon DSL FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) I agree. I went through similar issues with Cox that they were unable to diagnose or resolve. Modem was old. Got a new modem and bingo!! All problems resolved. Bill
Re: [H] Verizon DSL
If they can ping you, then they are none the wiser. Of course that's one of the 1st things firewalls block out-of-the-box rightly so. Mine has been configured to allow traffic from their private IP range for ping, DHCP, etc... I get a real kick out of them asking me to plug my box directly in flat out refuse to do so since I know they can talk to the modem that's all they truly need. On the same note I am quick to point out when I can talk to the modem diagnostic page but not the 'net. They have yet to convince me to plug in directly for any diagnostics. If the modem checks out the CPE still can't get out you need a tech onsite IMHO. Mike Resnick wrote: Sounds like your problem with Comcast might be location dependant. One of my kids lives in southern NJ and has Comcast. They set it up for her at no cost, including a free SB cable modem. Throughput up and down is fantastic - at least as good as Optonline.com (i.e., Cablevision). Anyway, after her service was up and running I just added a D-Link router for her without any problems. I even asked the installer when he was at her house if there was any problem adding a router. He said no, but suggested that Comcast's on-line support (monkeys) might ask for it to be removed if they were troubleshooting a problem. The way he told it, it wasn't that Comcast had a problem with the router as much as it was that their support monkeys would use it as an excuse for any problems that were reported to them.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
At 07:56 PM 1/8/2006, Winterlight Poked the stick with: FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) So they will sell you a modem? went to the Cox store, they added it to my bill and inputed the mac address there so when I got back it plugged right in. At 06:27 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. Thing is my modem is a Linksys BEFCMU10, about three and half years old, that is on their approved list Standard Specification Compliant DOCSIS 1.0 Hardware Version 3.0 Software Version 1.0.7 (befcmu10v108-test0925.bin) Cable Modem MAC Address 00:06:25:AE:18:C6 Cable Modem Serial Number KBG2316676 CPE-end Interface Ethernet + USB CM certificate RSA Key Pair Installed You still think it could be the modem? Possibility along with bad cable somewhere, I had them chance some ends once when the cable was fuzzy. When they installed the phone drop to the street the installer used inside connectors which failed. All I know is my problems stopped when I put in the new modem, YMMV. Is there, and is it possible to do a firmware update to these modems ? I have no idea myself, my old modem was supposedly up gradable but no way I ever saw to actually do it. :-( Luck fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- A well-written life is as rare as a well-spent one.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
OK, I can get the Moratoria 5120 at CompUSA for 60 bucks after rebates, which is what I would kind of like to do. or Cox has the Motorola 5100 for $80 new or $50 used. I am tempted to buy a used one, just because it is COX and they would have to stand behind it. What do you guys think?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
my sb5120 was only $60 from Cox ? If you get it from Cox returning might be easier if it had a problem. fp At 11:12 AM 1/9/2006, Winterlight Poked the stick with: OK, I can get the Moratoria 5120 at CompUSA for 60 bucks after rebates, which is what I would kind of like to do. or Cox has the Motorola 5100 for $80 new or $50 used. I am tempted to buy a used one, just because it is COX and they would have to stand behind it. What do you guys think? -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- The Borg: Cool, Calm and Collective.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
At 01:51 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote: my sb5120 was only $60 from Cox ? If you get it from Cox returning might be easier if it had a problem. fp Well, this morning I called them and they said they had the SB5100 79.95 new and 49.95 used. I went down there and discovered that, in fact, the only modem they had was something called Amber ... or some similar name that I hadn't heard of. She said they had been using this for a year. It was very small, like about two packs of cigarettes . She did, however, say that the SB 5120 was supported, so at that point I decided to go out to CompUSA and get the SB5120 for 79.95 minus 20 dollar rebate = 59.95. I would of preferred to buy it from COX, for the reason you mentioned, but the AMBER looked like some odd ball generic modem and I didn't like the idea of it. Plus I had all these positive comments about the SB from you guys. I am just about to hook it up and try to activate it.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
that's weird, I would have done the same thing. guess can not get it's crap together. fp At 04:29 PM 1/9/2006, Winterlight Poked the stick with: At 01:51 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote: my sb5120 was only $60 from Cox ? If you get it from Cox returning might be easier if it had a problem. fp Well, this morning I called them and they said they had the SB5100 79.95 new and 49.95 used. I went down there and discovered that, in fact, the only modem they had was something called Amber ... or some similar name that I hadn't heard of. She said they had been using this for a year. It was very small, like about two packs of cigarettes . She did, however, say that the SB 5120 was supported, so at that point I decided to go out to CompUSA and get the SB5120 for 79.95 minus 20 dollar rebate = 59.95. I would of preferred to buy it from COX, for the reason you mentioned, but the AMBER looked like some odd ball generic modem and I didn't like the idea of it. Plus I had all these positive comments about the SB from you guys. I am just about to hook it up and try to activate it. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- I have a vitally important role serving as a bad example.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
I've had nothing but great service with Verizon DSL at my place in Queens NYC. My girlfriend just switched over from Comcast in Pittsburgh to Verizon DSL. Sorry, but Comcast blows chunks. Wouldn't allow any aftermarket router to be used, shoddy service. I've been using Verizon for over 3 years now in Queens and have had to reset the modem maybe once a year. I just switched to the $15/month plan and the speed is quite acceptable. Only while downloading large files such as MS updates or large files do you notice it, but it seems the rest of the internet is slow enough that my connection is usually not the bottleneck. I'm currently using Optimum Online and its great except the $$$ so I'll be switching her also. You'll need to use their software to setup the modem and initialize your account, but afterwards, you don't need any extra software to access the internet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 6:29 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Verizon DSL Do you guys with Verizon DSL have a reliable connection. I have COX cable modem. The first five years it was great...never had a problem... but a year ago I began having all sorts of problems. One day I can't send email, one day I can't receive mail. Seems like every other Sunday at midnight eastern my connection goes south... or like to day, I keep having to reset my modem and even when connected I can't through to a lot of sites. It feels like I have hollow bandwidth. I have had this sort of problem last until the middle of the week and then it's OK for a few days until the next Sunday. Well, I have had enough. I just checked the Verizon site and see that I can get better upload speeds then I am getting now, and similar download for 25 per cent less money! So I am thinking of giving it a try. Verizon DSL just uses a modem right? There is not logging in software involved ...right? How reliable a service is it?
Re: [H] Verizon DSL
Very happy with Verizon DSL here. Can't wait for FIOS though. :) AMDSpeed wrote: I've had nothing but great service with Verizon DSL at my place in Queens NYC. My girlfriend just switched over from Comcast in Pittsburgh to Verizon DSL. Sorry, but Comcast blows chunks. Wouldn't allow any aftermarket router to be used, shoddy service. I've been using Verizon for over 3 years now in Queens and have had to reset the modem maybe once a year. I just switched to the $15/month plan and the speed is quite acceptable. Only while downloading large files such as MS updates or large files do you notice it, but it seems the rest of the internet is slow enough that my connection is usually not the bottleneck. I'm currently using Optimum Online and its great except the $$$ so I'll be switching her also. You'll need to use their software to setup the modem and initialize your account, but afterwards, you don't need any extra software to access the internet.
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
At 07:15 PM 1/8/2006, AMDSpeed typed: I've had nothing but great service with Verizon DSL at my place in Queens NYC. VZ DSL in the NYC area is very different than the rest of the country. I had it for a year while it was ok overall their supt sucks like most places these days. I had a Westell modem/router all in one unit that was a POS but I was able to disable everything but the modem part use my modified Linksys WRT54g instead for the router part. Anyhow VZ wanted me to continue to pay $29.95 for 1.5m/.5 service when for $39.95 from the cable co. I get 5m/.5 service so I went back to cable. What blows is that my cable co no longer has usenet service included that winds up being an extra cost where as VZ usenet access was the best that had ever seen by an ISP. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] Verizon DSL
FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. At 04:28 PM 1/8/2006, Winterlight Poked the stick with: Do you guys with Verizon DSL have a reliable connection. I have COX cable modem. The first five years it was great...never had a problem... but a year ago I began having all sorts of problems. One day I can't send email, one day I can't receive mail. Seems like every other Sunday at midnight eastern my connection goes south... or like to day, I keep having to reset my modem and even when connected I can't through to a lot of sites. It feels like I have hollow bandwidth. I have had this sort of problem last until the middle of the week and then it's OK for a few days until the next Sunday. Well, I have had enough. I just checked the Verizon site and see that I can get better upload speeds then I am getting now, and similar download for 25 per cent less money! So I am thinking of giving it a try. Verizon DSL just uses a modem right? There is not logging in software involved ...right? How reliable a service is it? -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Other than that, Jackie, how was the parade? - Dan Quayle
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Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Verizon DSL Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:28:52 -0800 Do you guys with Verizon DSL have a reliable connection. I have COX cable modem. The first five years it was great...never had a problem... but a year ago I began having all sorts of problems. One day I can't send email, one day I can't receive mail. Seems like every other Sunday at midnight eastern my connection goes south... or like to day, I keep having to reset my modem and even when connected I can't through to a lot of sites. It feels like I have hollow bandwidth. I have had this sort of problem last until the middle of the week and then it's OK for a few days until the next Sunday. Well, I have had enough. I just checked the Verizon site and see that I can get better upload speeds then I am getting now, and similar download for 25 per cent less money! So I am thinking of giving it a try. Verizon DSL just uses a modem right? There is not logging in software involved ...right? How reliable a service is it?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) So they will sell you a modem? At 06:27 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. Thing is my modem is a Linksys BEFCMU10, about three and half years old, that is on their approved list Standard Specification Compliant DOCSIS 1.0 Hardware Version 3.0 Software Version 1.0.7 (befcmu10v108-test0925.bin) Cable Modem MAC Address 00:06:25:AE:18:C6 Cable Modem Serial Number KBG2316676 CPE-end Interface Ethernet + USB CM certificate RSA Key Pair Installed You still think it could be the modem?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
I had tons of problems with my BEFCMU10 for a while, and then picked up a Dlink Docsis 2.0 modem off of newegg.com with a rebate, and the problems went away. The cable companies (cox in my case) must have done an upgrade that caused problems with some of the older modems. Look on Newegg, find a nice one with a rebate, and try it out. Harry On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 18:56 -0800, Winterlight wrote: FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) So they will sell you a modem? At 06:27 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. Thing is my modem is a Linksys BEFCMU10, about three and half years old, that is on their approved list Standard Specification Compliant DOCSIS 1.0 Hardware Version 3.0 Software Version 1.0.7 (befcmu10v108-test0925.bin) Cable Modem MAC Address 00:06:25:AE:18:C6 Cable Modem Serial Number KBG2316676 CPE-end Interface Ethernet + USB CM certificate RSA Key Pair Installed You still think it could be the modem?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
At 07:05 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: I had tons of problems with my BEFCMU10 for a while, and then picked up a Dlink Docsis 2.0 modem off of newegg.com with a rebate, and the problems went away. The cable companies (cox in my case) must have done an upgrade that caused problems with some of the older modems. Look on Newegg, find a nice one with a rebate, and try it out. Harry Well, if I can get one from COX like FP did for 60 bucks then I will do that in the morning. That way if it doesn't help I can blame them. m On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 18:56 -0800, Winterlight wrote: FWIW I had a similar problem and it seems my modem was not on the *approved* list anymore so got a new Motorola from Cox for $60 and all is better, have not had to reset the modem once. ( the router a couple of times) but the modem has been a rock. Tallyho ! ]:8) So they will sell you a modem? At 06:27 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: Before ditching Cox I would first see upgrading your cable modem to a current generation model will help. Verizon's DSL can't compete with the bandwidth Cox is giving away practically for free. This is why FIOS is being heavily invested. Thing is my modem is a Linksys BEFCMU10, about three and half years old, that is on their approved list Standard Specification Compliant DOCSIS 1.0 Hardware Version 3.0 Software Version 1.0.7 (befcmu10v108-test0925.bin) Cable Modem MAC Address 00:06:25:AE:18:C6 Cable Modem Serial Number KBG2316676 CPE-end Interface Ethernet + USB CM certificate RSA Key Pair Installed You still think it could be the modem?
RE: [H] Verizon DSL
Sounds like your problem with Comcast might be location dependant. One of my kids lives in southern NJ and has Comcast. They set it up for her at no cost, including a free SB cable modem. Throughput up and down is fantastic - at least as good as Optonline.com (i.e., Cablevision). Anyway, after her service was up and running I just added a D-Link router for her without any problems. I even asked the installer when he was at her house if there was any problem adding a router. He said no, but suggested that Comcast's on-line support (monkeys) might ask for it to be removed if they were troubleshooting a problem. The way he told it, it wasn't that Comcast had a problem with the router as much as it was that their support monkeys would use it as an excuse for any problems that were reported to them. By the way, how would Comcast know which specific router you used? Regards, Mike At 07:15 PM 1/8/2006 -0500, AMDSpeed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had nothing but great service with Verizon DSL at my place in Queens NYC. My girlfriend just switched over from Comcast in Pittsburgh to Verizon DSL. Sorry, but Comcast blows chunks. Wouldn't allow any aftermarket router to be used, shoddy service. I've been using Verizon for over 3 years now in Queens and have had to reset the modem maybe once a year. I just switched to the $15/month plan and the speed is quite acceptable. Only while downloading large files such as MS updates or large files do you notice it, but it seems the rest of the internet is slow enough that my connection is usually not the bottleneck. I'm currently using Optimum Online and its great except the $$$ so I'll be switching her also. You'll need to use their software to setup the modem and initialize your account, but afterwards, you don't need any extra software to access the internet. __ Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin
