RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
Hi there, Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections. The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe listens on and connects to: http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a default Vista installation, so ignore those. You'll note that the server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection itself. In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections that go FROM the computer. On the right, these are ports and connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to). In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration. Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005, 27015, 27020. The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on 27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be accessible to accept connections. There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't broken out the packet analysers for that ;). Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup. The command line I started the server with was: \valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike No +ip setting or anything. I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015. But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the past with other people). My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me. If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or indirectly by your ISP. To check what your server is actually listening on and what IP: Start-Run, cmd, netstat -an Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game on the SAME computer is really not recommended. Because games are not multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock ups for remote players. Listen servers - don't bother ;) -- Bart King http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654 snip really long thread ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
Nice post Bart. One small comment if I may. I don't believe it is necessary to forward any port other than the game port in order to create the required listen (initial connection) port for hl. This single port forwarding for TCP/IP only, has been working in my WRT54G Linksys router for years for both hldm and srcds. -Original Message- From: Bart King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:02 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hi there, Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections. The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe listens on and connects to: http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a default Vista installation, so ignore those. You'll note that the server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection itself. In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections that go FROM the computer. On the right, these are ports and connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to). In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration. Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005, 27015, 27020. The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on 27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be accessible to accept connections. There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't broken out the packet analysers for that ;). Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup. The command line I started the server with was: \valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike No +ip setting or anything. I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015. But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the past with other people). My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me. If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or indirectly by your ISP. To check what your server is actually listening on and what IP: Start-Run, cmd, netstat -an Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game on the SAME computer is really not recommended. Because games are not multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock ups for remote players. Listen servers - don't bother ;) -- Bart King http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654 snip really long thread ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
Hi aLL I had just mentioned Counter-Strike worked as to show that I am able to join and I am setup Properly. I just cannot join or HOST on Half-Life for some reason?? I see the servers come up I just cannot join them?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:39 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Nice post Bart. One small comment if I may. I don't believe it is necessary to forward any port other than the game port in order to create the required listen (initial connection) port for hl. This single port forwarding for TCP/IP only, has been working in my WRT54G Linksys router for years for both hldm and srcds. -Original Message- From: Bart King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:02 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hi there, Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections. The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe listens on and connects to: http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a default Vista installation, so ignore those. You'll note that the server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection itself. In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections that go FROM the computer. On the right, these are ports and connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to). In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration. Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005, 27015, 27020. The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on 27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be accessible to accept connections. There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't broken out the packet analysers for that ;). Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup. The command line I started the server with was: \valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike No +ip setting or anything. I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015. But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the past with other people). My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me. If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or indirectly by your ISP. To check what your server is actually listening on and what IP: Start-Run, cmd, netstat -an Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game on the SAME computer is really not recommended. Because games are not multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock ups for remote players. Listen servers - don't bother ;) -- Bart King http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654 snip really long thread ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
Hello, When you say cannot join or host on Half-Life, what do you mean specifically? Are you talking about Half-Life 1 (the original version of Half-Life) or Half-Life 2? Half-Life 1 has a multiplayer deathmatch mode, but this does not use Source. Half-Life 2 also has a deathmatch mode, but is entirely separate from Half-Life 2 the game. If you are unable to connect to any Half-Life 1 deathmatch server or Half-Life 2 deathmatch server, it's difficult to make suggestions because there are so many factors to consider (especially since HL1 and HL2 use rather different engines and therefore different networking sub-systems). In the console of the game, you can find out a bit more information when you connect to a server. Find an IP address of a server to connect to, then in the console in the game, type: developer 2 connect xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:y A loading screen may appear, and stuff whiz past in the console, but at the point it fails, your console will contain more information about why it failed. If its purely to do with not being able to connect (e.g. you get a timeout, or the client fails to connect after four attempts), something on your machine or network is blocking the connection. Also, make sure your local game files are intact. In STEAM, right-click the game, Properties, Local Files and click Verify integrity of game cache. Aside from knowing exactly what you are trying to do (and what game you are trying to connect to), I can't give any more assistance. Cheers, -- Bart King http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654 (Mr. Technical Support ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: 10 October 2006 15:32 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hi aLL I had just mentioned Counter-Strike worked as to show that I am able to join and I am setup Properly. I just cannot join or HOST on Half-Life for some reason?? I see the servers come up I just cannot join them?? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
As another poster has said you are not being specific enough. You there is not multiplayer half life game. There is half-life death match which is multiplayer. You really need to BE specific. You say you want to host and play and join other servers wich you are unable to do. What does unable mean? Do you get any type of message or anything specific you can say. You are speaking to very technical people and to get proper support you must you must provide us with enough information to be able to help you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable too. I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers. - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I suggest you open ports that need opening. This does not mean forward them. When you say run half life what do you mean? I assume half life doesn't need ports open. Do you get any messages when you as you say run Halflife? What exactly are you trying to do right here. What specifically does and does not work? You just mean running these as clients or are you doing something else? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router
Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
OK SORRY for not being Specific. I am trying to Play Deathmatch with Half-Life1. I am unable to Join ANY server so I can play as in Shoot Kill the other opponents in the server recieve points in game. I get this error message Failed to Contact Game Server then is just says disconnected. it tries to join the server 3 times then I get that error message then it just Disconnects. I have the required ports Open and forwarded in my Router DLink DGL-4300 Gaming Router. I had mentioned Before I am Able to Join in Counter-Strike and Play as in Shoot Kill the Terrorists in GAME. I'm SORRY if that confuses you technical people I just wanted to mention that to let you know that I am Able to Join Some Games on STEAM just NOT Halflife 1. THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. As another poster has said you are not being specific enough. You there is not multiplayer half life game. There is half-life death match which is multiplayer. You really need to BE specific. You say you want to host and play and join other servers wich you are unable to do. What does unable mean? Do you get any type of message or anything specific you can say. You are speaking to very technical people and to get proper support you must you must provide us with enough information to be able to help you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable too. I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers. - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I suggest you open ports that need opening. This does not mean forward them. When you say run half life what do you mean? I assume half life doesn't need ports open. Do you get any messages when you as you say run Halflife? What exactly are you trying to do right here. What specifically does and does not work? You just mean running these as clients or are you doing something else? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From
Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable too. I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers. - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I suggest you open ports that need opening. This does not mean forward them. When you say run half life what do you mean? I assume half life doesn't need ports open. Do you get any messages when you as you say run Halflife? What exactly are you trying to do right here. What specifically does and does not work? You just mean running these as clients or are you doing something else? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending
Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hey, I get the same results. when gerald says he went to steam support and did the port forward test.. it's not a port forward test. it is a connectivity test. there are a couple of them. they are for people trying to play the game. here are two: steam://support/?issues=connection* and steam://support/?issues=*test=ports I have some nice pics. that look just like the one you posted gerald. I can play on other servers. world wide. also, have a stand alone, dedicated server +port 27015, console shows 192.168.17.31:27015 my router forwards tcp/udp 27015 used ipchicken to get my external IP, and put it at the top of server.cfgie. IP 205.200.173.203 on the nextline port 27015 the console still shows lan IP. no one else in the world can join my server. have used gametiger to search for my server. no joy. I have an isp that filters out some of the steam stuff. check steam support for a list of incompatable isp providers. they allow outgoing connections. they do not allow incomming connections. they do not allow outgoing connection request (invites) when someone else is running a listening server and they send me an invite via frends. I get the invite message. but nothing happens when I click to join. my server connects to the valve master servers! maybe my server is on the master browser list. cannot see it there. you could join my server anytime. it runs 24/7, if I could send you a connection request. have run a listening server. no one can join. only computers on the same subnet of the lan. similar results with client dedicated server can play on other servers. can connect to steam and get updates. can pass the connection test. whatever. On 10/9/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable too. I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers. - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I suggest you open ports that need opening. This does not mean forward them. When you say run half life what do you mean? I assume half life doesn't need ports open. Do you get any messages when you as you say run Halflife? What exactly are you trying to do right here. What specifically does and does not work? You just mean running these as clients or are you doing something else? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across
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I suggest you open ports that need opening. This does not mean forward them. When you say run half life what do you mean? I assume half life doesn't need ports open. Do you get any messages when you as you say run Halflife? What exactly are you trying to do right here. What specifically does and does not work? You just mean running these as clients or are you doing something else? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my
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If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=00129 0 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets
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Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=00129 0 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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You was able to join before because it was likely setup as a lan server and now it is an internet server. The problem is because of using the same port 27015 for the client as you use for the server. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? I believe you misread their website. They say the ports need to be open but they do not say to FORWARD them. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them No where does steams website suggest forwarding all those ports. Some ports are required to be OPEN to play steam but they do not need to be forwarded. I suggest you re-read the links I provided in the other post. I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64 t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! These errors are normal for running a dedicated sv_lan 0 server and trying to join it from the same machine. You need to change the client port to something other than 27015 or you need to change the dedicated server port to something other than 27015. It will not use your external ip. I believe doing this will allow you to connect. I can't test it right now as my steam is updating but I do believe this is what you need. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? No... I am not wondering if you have a normal ip. I see later on you posted your ip address. But I am leaving this here for completeness. I could see your server fine with hlsw and also can join your server fine. You will see the answer to why you can't join the server when they are located on the same machine if one is a dedicated server. From hlsw it does appear to be a dedicated server. What is the name of your server and what is the ip address to join your server externally. I don't understand how hard it is to understand that. I am trying to determine if anyone can find your server or join it. If we can then the only problem is YOU joining the server from the lan side. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I tested this just now and using the default ports of everything I had no problems connecting to the servers. Maybe it has something to do with all those ports you forwarded and you did not need to do so. These errors are normal for running a dedicated sv_lan 0 server and trying to join it from the same machine. You need to change the client port to something other than 27015 or you need to change the dedicated server port to something other than 27015. It will not use your external ip. I believe doing this will allow you to connect. I can't test it right now as my steam is updating but I do believe this is what you need. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info
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Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip
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There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give
RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN. I also have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems. Your router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration. -Original Message- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2 computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys, they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work through the Linksys. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing all traffic on his lan segment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN. I also have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems. Your router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration. -Original Message- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2 computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys, they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work through the Linksys. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't you get custom firmware for your router? On 08/10/06, Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing all traffic on his lan segment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN. I also have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems. Your router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration. -Original Message- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2 computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys, they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work through the Linksys. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes
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Firewall is off. It's something specific to the WRT54G wireless. - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing all traffic on his lan segment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN. I also have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems. Your router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration. -Original Message- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2 computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys, they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work through the Linksys. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From
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Are you connected wirelessly to the WRT54G? It work fine if you are wired, just not if you are wireless. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN. I also have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems. Your router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration. -Original Message- From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2 computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys, they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work through the Linksys. - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from the same LAN the server computer is running on. If you can't do that then you've got some basic network function screwed up. Start out making certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters. Make sure the network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct. Lets assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the quotes) ping 192.168.1.200. You should receive 4 replies. Next ping the server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4 replies. If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game. Are all these things true for your current problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server
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OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled Steam Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things?? Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ?? it is strange that Counter Strike works but Half Life does Not. THNX for All the responces so far - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Delete all your forwards also... The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are: Port: 27015 Protocols: TCP and UDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything) I find if I have had Issues with software including steam I get up early (brain works better) Start a text file and writing your every move! Put the box on your local network Download the latest server installer Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don't use any of your old server for anything) Once you have a fresh copy SAVE AS as to give you a backup :) and continue saving through the build procedure so you have reference. Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address Then start adding your addons Good luck My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am unablr=e to join it worked before?? - Original Message - From: Edward Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router). -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06
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I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways.. http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error ? im behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if others want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt answer my question so they said to post here. I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST HalfLife is because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an Exterenal IP. My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External IP?? I am using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro THNX Gerald
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums Do not pass go Do not collect $200 On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways.. http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error ? im behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if others want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt answer my question so
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SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it is NOT an issue with port forwarding - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums Do not pass go Do not collect $200 On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways.. http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error ? im behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if others want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format
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well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways.. http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error ? im behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if others want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt answer my question so they said to post here. I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST HalfLife is because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The server definitily shouldn't be bound to the external port on your router. It shouldn't even be possible to do that. The server IP will be something like 192.168.0.4. People connect by using your public IP and the router forwards the traffic. If they can't connect using the public IP, then there is something set wrong: the port forwarding is setup wrong, the computer you are hosting srcds on has a firewall setup, etc. On 10/6/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it is NOT an issue with port forwarding - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums Do not pass go Do not collect $200 On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using
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I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways.. http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error ? im behind a router and i can run both a server
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@DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use? You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe is one, there are more but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as well. So that would be your best solution right now. Hope this info helped out The Sourcekillaz Team - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna Answer my Question thean DONT!! My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!! READ THE POST SHEESH!! - Original Message - From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Heard of google dood, sheesh? anyways
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Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP doesnt provide it free of charge. - Original Message - From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @gerald In the startup string add: +ip external ip for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 That should do it. @jose . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an *IP* which IP it should use
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@Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email). Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP Now I get it. ^__^ I tested it and that works indeed. I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^# - Original Message - From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so the domain would be setup
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At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not relevant If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected) your server will be added to the master list automatically. All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember why to find a computer
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@Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what is your native language, maybe I can help you better if I knew that... On 10/6/06, Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine. The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help someone out. My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get more bandwidth in this hick town. From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. if you want your server to appeare in the server list If you mean
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ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow direct IP connections. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well you would LOOSe that bet
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I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put
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@DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot
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Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check
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well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why
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you are still not understanding. yes, you give out your external ip to users, no you do not bind your server to that ip. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
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Close enough, hehehe... but your puter can have an internal and an external IP if it is multi-homed...like mine is. The rest of what you said is fairly accurate, in a down and dirty kinda way... well done. -Original Message- From: Ryan Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? - Original Message - From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server. At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server console that will give a hint to your problem. BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Scott I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I wanna play as well. Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or Not. that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I cant Host?? - Original Message - From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Steam page to test ports What is that? I am not aware of that. There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on www.gametiger.net ? If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. http://tinyurl.com/h35as All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area. http://tinyurl.com/koh6s Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. Triple check them. Because these are all you need. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOz here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I could solve it!! THNX Gerald - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
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No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the group for troubleshooting. I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to show you that the IP address isn't even listed. D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3 Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll -vacbeta -autoupdate It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This will prove that your port forwarding is right. If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu server away and reload/reinstall it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=00129 0 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house. - Original Message - From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @Michael I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. Dropped Nephilim from server Reason: Client sent 'drop' will that help
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I run several dedicated servers and the only port I have open for all the game servers is 27015 for TCP. In router jargon this is the initial connection port and must be opened so the Internet can get to it. Of course the IP addy that the Internet sees is the Public (no need to say external) IP... the private IP, which no one can get directly to but you (private IP addresses are not addressable by routers in the Internet)... is the proverbial can't get there from here. The initial connection is made by someone on the Internet to the router's public IP address which is forwarded to the server. IP then negotiates a set of ports to be used by the session and when both sides agree, the connection is moved to a whole different set of ports you know nothing about and have even less control over. Your server then returns to listening on 27015 (in my case) for the next initial connection request. This is the simplest form of router function and depends on a rule of allowing all outgoing traffic but restricting incoming connections to only those you've specified. If you've done that then your good to go. Remember... the only IP address you've really got to work with is the public IP. A router performing NAT (network address translation) will multiplex that IP address across the 32,000 or so IP ports available on each host. On the outside chance that you do have a duel homed system (two NIC's) then check the binding order. Make sure the NIC you want your game to bind to is first in the list or use the IP command line entry. Best to do both. -Original Message- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them why do they say to open them all?? I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what you mean by my knowledge level ?? - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a possible cause. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. @DlinkOZ I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website here is the link: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!! - Original Message - From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done? Such as: I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server That would give us something to go on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP. when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind
