Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Netshroud]

So after this, then? 
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10

On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still are 
 build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm not sure 
 when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
 
 -ics
 
 Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
 I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
 Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
 separate.
 
 
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
 
 It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
 
 But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
 you will lose all your tf2 items.
 
 
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
 individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
 groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
 Source games?
 
 On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.
 -ics
 
 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
 ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...
 
 
 
 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
 It's banned by engine.
 
 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
 you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
 wrote:
 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
 is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
 Foo
 Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 Hello!
 
 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
 with
 VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
 banned.
 
 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort
 of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
 it's a
 very
 vague recollection.
 
 Thanks
 
 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Jeff Sugar]

Indeed.

That said, if you'd like to block anyone who has been VAC banned,
regardless of the game on which it occurred, there's a SourceMod plugin to
achieve that, located here:
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942

You can choose to have them kicked, banned, or just log the event in case
you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but have them on file if at
some point you suspect them of cheating and want to know or something like
that

-Atreus

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

 So after this, then?
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10

 On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

  There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still
 are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm not
 sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
 
  -ics
 
  Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
  I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
  Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
  separate.
 
 
  On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
  https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
 
  It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
 
  But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine
 game
  you will lose all your tf2 items.
 
 
  On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
  individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still
 in
  groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include
 pre-Left4Dead
  Source games?
 
  On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
  Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game.
 No
  longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in
 DOD:Source
  and HL2DM like in the previous years.
  -ics
 
  Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new
 valve
  titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
  those accounts...
 
 
  
  From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
  It's banned by engine.
 
  If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games
 (excluding
  gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
  you're
  banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
  wrote:
  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand
 it
  is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
  Foo
  Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
  with
  VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/as
  being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I
 sort
  of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
  it's a
  very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Daniel Barreiro]

Well I guess I've been out of the loop for a while.  Last time I discussed
VAC in depth was back with Gmod and Garry's VACventure with Baconbot
(2010-2011).  Back then it was still engine ban.



On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed.

 That said, if you'd like to block anyone who has been VAC banned,
 regardless of the game on which it occurred, there's a SourceMod plugin to
 achieve that, located here:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942

 You can choose to have them kicked, banned, or just log the event in case
 you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but have them on file if at
 some point you suspect them of cheating and want to know or something like
 that

 -Atreus

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

  So after this, then?
 
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10
 
  On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
   There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still
  are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm
 not
  sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
  
   -ics
  
   Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
   I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
   Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
   separate.
  
  
   On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
   https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
  
   It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
  
   But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source
 engine
  game
   you will lose all your tf2 items.
  
  
   On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
   individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still
  in
   groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include
  pre-Left4Dead
   Source games?
  
   On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
  
   Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular
 game.
  No
   longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in
  DOD:Source
   and HL2DM like in the previous years.
   -ics
  
   Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
   ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new
  valve
   titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games
 to
   those accounts...
  
  
   
   From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
   hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
  
   It's banned by engine.
  
   If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games
  (excluding
   gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
   you're
   banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
  
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
   wrote:
   VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand
  it
   is if
   you
   are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
 Of
   Foo
   Bar
   Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
   Hello!
  
   Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM
 server
   with
   VAC
   enabled, but the player is listed on
 http://www.vacbanned.com/as
   being
   banned.
  
   This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I
  sort
   of
   remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
   it's a
   very
   vague recollection.
  
   Thanks
  
   [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Mart-Jan Reeuwijk]

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
accounts... 




 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com 
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 

It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[ics]

Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No 
longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in 
DOD:Source and HL2DM like in the previous years.


-ics

Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
accounts...





From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:


VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with

VAC

enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a

very

vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Daniel Barreiro]

Ah.  I missed that update.  Thanks.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:18 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.

 -ics

 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...



  __**__
 From: Daniel Barreiro 
 smelly.feet.you.have@gmail.**comsmelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.**
 valvesoftware.com hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


 It's banned by engine.

 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is
 if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.comhlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.comhlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com]
 On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

 Hello!

 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with

 VAC

 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
 banned.

 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a

 very

 vague recollection.

 Thanks

 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Netshroud]

I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated individually, 
but previous games such as those you listed were still in groups. When did the 
change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead Source games?

On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No 
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source and 
 HL2DM like in the previous years.
 
 -ics
 
 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
 ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
 individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
 accounts...
 
 
 
 
 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
 It's banned by engine.
 
 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:
 
 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 Hello!
 
 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
 banned.
 
 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
 vague recollection.
 
 Thanks
 
 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[1nsane]

Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
you will lose all your tf2 items.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
 individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
 groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
 Source games?

 On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

  Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.
 
  -ics
 
  Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...
 
 
 
  
  From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
  It's banned by engine.
 
  If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
  gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
 you're
  banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:
 
  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
 is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo
 Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
 with
  VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
  very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Daniel Barreiro]

I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
separate.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

 It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

 But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
 you will lose all your tf2 items.


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
  individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
  groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
  Source games?
 
  On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
   Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
  longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
  and HL2DM like in the previous years.
  
   -ics
  
   Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
   ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
  titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
  those accounts...
  
  
  
   
   From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
  
   It's banned by engine.
  
   If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
   gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
  you're
   banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
  
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
 wrote:
  
   VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
  is if
   you
   are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
 Foo
  Bar
   Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
   Hello!
  
   Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
  with
   VAC
   enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
  being
   banned.
  
   This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort
 of
   remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
 it's a
   very
   vague recollection.
  
   Thanks
  
   [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[ics]

There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still 
are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm 
not sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.


-ics

Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:

I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
separate.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:


Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
you will lose all your tf2 items.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:


I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
Source games?

On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:


Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No

longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
and HL2DM like in the previous years.

-ics

Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve

titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
those accounts...





From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 

hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if

you're

banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net

wrote:

VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it

is if

you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of

Foo

Bar

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server

with

VAC

enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as

being

banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort

of

remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but

it's a

very

vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Frank]

VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with VAC
enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a very
vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Foo Bar]

Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

 Hello!

 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
 banned.

 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a very
 vague recollection.

 Thanks

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

[Daniel Barreiro]

It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[Eric Riemers]

Well its happening again.. 

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Sent: zondag 26 juni 2011 22:05
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

Hi,

I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It
keeps telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

Anyone else experiencing issues, or know a workaround?

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[Kigen]

The servers are being overloaded by F2P.  You'll have to wait until it
either dies down or VALVe is able to add more load balancing.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[AnAkIn .]

Quite a lot of players get disconnected for No Steam Logon on my server.

2011/6/26 Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net

 Hi,

 I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It
 keeps telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[Saint K .]

hmm correction, the problem seems to be client sided.

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[hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. 
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Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

Hi,

I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It keeps 
telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

Anyone else experiencing issues, or know a workaround?

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[ics]

Waiting helps. Usually this thing clears itself on map change. 
Restarting the server won't help. Just let it be.


There was over 100 000 players on TF2 so it might be a capacity issue. 
Atleast players are dropping off with No Steam Logon from our servers.


-ics

26.6.2011 23:04, Saint K. kirjoitti:

Hi,

I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It keeps 
telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[Loïc PERY]

Same problem here ...

2011/6/26 Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net

 Hi,

 I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It
 keeps telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

 Anyone else experiencing issues, or know a workaround?

 Cheers,
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

[James Botting]

I can second this. Restarting our server had no effect.

On 26 Jun 2011, at 21:45, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:

 hmm correction, the problem seems to be client sided.
 
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. 
 [sai...@specialattack.net]
 Sent: 26 June 2011 22:04
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC down?

 Hi,

 I can't get one of our servers to connect to VAC and the items stuff. It 
 keeps telling me the server lost connection to the items server.

 Anyone else experiencing issues, or know a workaround?

 Cheers,
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?

[gameadmin]

VAC bans work on a per-engine basis - it's possible they were VAC banned
from CS:S but not CS, for example

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
 boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Szabo
 Sent: 29 September 2010 11:46
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?
 
 
 Hey. Today i banned two cheaters from my VAC server.. When i check
 vacbanned.com they have status BANNED. How did they play on my
 server?... Also my friend can join with a VAC banned account sometimes
 via consol.
 
 In HLSW it says that server is VAC protected and all the right ports
 are open and no firewall.
 
 
 STEAMID: STEAM_0:1:15807036
 STEAMID: STEAM_0:1:12196198
 
 SERVER IP: 81.170.255.240:27015
 
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?

[w4rezz]

Maybe is your server cracked?

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?

[Christopher Szabo]

Its not cracked. How can i see what game they are VAC banned from?



 From: w4r...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:27:23 +0200
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?
 
 Maybe is your server cracked?
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?

[Harry Strongburg]

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 02:34:11PM +0200, Christopher Szabo wrote:
 Its not cracked. How can i see what game they are VAC banned from?

You can't.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC not working?

[daniel jokiaho]

VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) bans cheaters on an engine-specific basis. So
if someone is banned by VAC on one engine, they can still connect to
secure servers on another engine. For example, someone that is banned
on CS 1.6 can play on CS:S servers until they are caught hacking
there. Fortunately, each players VAC status is readily available on
their Steam Community profile. [b]quote from the url below[/b]

But what you can do is to install this plugin
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942highlight=vac+status+checker

It checks the steam community profile for ban info. And if they are
banned there. You have diff choices in the config. Ban, kick or log.

//Daniel


2010/9/29 Christopher Szabo sza...@hotmail.com:

 Hey. Today i banned two cheaters from my VAC server.. When i check 
 vacbanned.com they have status BANNED. How did they play on my server?... 
 Also my friend can join with a VAC banned account sometimes via consol.

 In HLSW it says that server is VAC protected and all the right ports are open 
 and no firewall.


 STEAMID: STEAM_0:1:15807036
 STEAMID: STEAM_0:1:12196198

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about the earlier mistakes)

[Thomas Hjorth]

yeah, that is kinda my plan, but I would like it to only apply for the
VAC servers and not the master servers, since they will use the external
IP and show that on the browserliste instead just a single IP.

Does Valve have an official list of VAC, auth, master and whatever
servers similar to their listing of content servers?

http://steampowered.com/status/content_servers.html

Regards, Thomas @ DSRack.com


On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 00:59 +0200, Oliver Salzburg wrote:
 Given that amount of servers behind a single IP,
 I would at least say it's not unreasonable to assume
 that the VAC servers might be throtteling your requests.
 And instead of randomly assigning IPs you could maybe
 use 1 IP per 100 servers ;)
 
 Thomas Hjorth wrote:
  500+ gameservers about 3/4 srcds/cstrike and about 1/4 hlds/cstrike... 
  Am I safe to use the term a lot? :-)
 
  Regards Thomas @ DSRack.com
 
 
  On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:30 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:

  On 16.06.2009 1:07, Thomas Hjorth wrote:
  
  Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT

  And a lot is what number? From what I've seen no problem with less 5 
  servers. Also problem could be throttling as you said, but just because 
  you are in spammy or botnet neighborhood, just my thoughts.
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about the earlier mistakes)

[Nikolay Shopik]

On 16.06.2009 1:07, Thomas Hjorth wrote:
 Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT
And a lot is what number? From what I've seen no problem with less 5 
servers. Also problem could be throttling as you said, but just because 
you are in spammy or botnet neighborhood, just my thoughts.


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about the earlier mistakes)

[Thomas Hjorth]

500+ gameservers about 3/4 srcds/cstrike and about 1/4 hlds/cstrike... 
Am I safe to use the term a lot? :-)

Regards Thomas @ DSRack.com


On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:30 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
 On 16.06.2009 1:07, Thomas Hjorth wrote:
  Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT
 And a lot is what number? From what I've seen no problem with less 5 
 servers. Also problem could be throttling as you said, but just because 
 you are in spammy or botnet neighborhood, just my thoughts.
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about the earlier mistakes)

[Guy Watkins]

NO!

You passed a lot a long time ago!  Wow.

} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
} boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Hjorth
} Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:26 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about
} the earlier mistakes)
} 
} 500+ gameservers about 3/4 srcds/cstrike and about 1/4 hlds/cstrike...
} Am I safe to use the term a lot? :-)
} 
} Regards Thomas @ DSRack.com
} 
} 
} On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:30 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
}  On 16.06.2009 1:07, Thomas Hjorth wrote:
}   Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT
}  And a lot is what number? From what I've seen no problem with less 5
}  servers. Also problem could be throttling as you said, but just because
}  you are in spammy or botnet neighborhood, just my thoughts.
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues. (new thread, sorry about the earlier mistakes)

[Oliver Salzburg]

Given that amount of servers behind a single IP,
I would at least say it's not unreasonable to assume
that the VAC servers might be throtteling your requests.
And instead of randomly assigning IPs you could maybe
use 1 IP per 100 servers ;)

Thomas Hjorth wrote:
 500+ gameservers about 3/4 srcds/cstrike and about 1/4 hlds/cstrike... 
 Am I safe to use the term a lot? :-)

 Regards Thomas @ DSRack.com


 On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 16:30 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
   
 On 16.06.2009 1:07, Thomas Hjorth wrote:
 
 Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT
   
 And a lot is what number? From what I've seen no problem with less 5 
 servers. Also problem could be throttling as you said, but just because 
 you are in spammy or botnet neighborhood, just my thoughts.


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC performance issues.

[Oliver Salzburg]

Argh, please learn the difference between replying to an existing thread 
with
a new subject and starting a new one :P
This totally fucks up threads.

Thomas Hjorth wrote:
 Hi again Valve, Alfred? and others...

 Im running a lot of 1.6 and source servers behind 1 IP using NAT. This
 seems to be a big problem for VAC, since Im having more and more issues
 about servers running INsecure due to no connection to steam VAC
 servers. Further more VAC is causing a lot of random spikelags on random
 servers.

 The spikelag is gone when running the servers with -insecure which makes
 it a pretty good reason to blame VAC. Further more the spikelags
 happens in off-peak hours with almost no load on network and servers AND
 with just 1-2 people jumping a bit around.

 My questions are... 
 1. Are the VAC servers overloaded? 
 2. Or are they somehow throttling requests from a single IP?
 3. if they are throttling, is there a way to get once IP approved in
 some way?

 I would hate to have to map a pool of external IPs to the internals
 giving all the servers random external IPs on the server browser
 lists. :-(

 Regrads, Thomas @ DSRack.com


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

[Tom Leighton]

Are you sure they're insecure? The shields are a little buggy sometimes, 
right click View Server Info and make sure its definately a VAC problem 
and not te server list being buggy as hell.

Martin Christophe wrote:
 I've refresh the server list, and there is 25738 servers not secure, 
 so it's a world problem.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

[Tom Leighton]

I never implied you were dumb. I just stated the fact that the shields 
in the server browser are sometimes misleading...

Martin Christophe wrote:
 That's was a filtred search... I'm not dumb thx.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

[Nephyrin Zey]

Both of my servers are secure! :-/

Are you sure it wasn't just a short outage? Those happen from time to time.

- Neph

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Martin Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're right, sry :)

  But i don't care of the shields, i've just make a filtered search with
  not secure and that's what i found. And I have 4 servers ( 4 boxes of
  3-4 servers ) and all aren't Vac secure :/

  That's why i think there is an huge problem, because of cheaters. All
  VAC banned accounts can work on every server today !!


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

[Kevin Ottalini]

looks like VAC is working ok now.


- Original Message - 
From: Nephyrin Zey
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work


 Both of my servers are secure! :-/

 Are you sure it wasn't just a short outage? Those happen from time to 
 time.

 - Neph

 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Martin Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're right, sry :)

  But i don't care of the shields, i've just make a filtered search with
  not secure and that's what i found. And I have 4 servers ( 4 boxes of
  3-4 servers ) and all aren't Vac secure :/

  That's why i think there is an huge problem, because of cheaters. All
  VAC banned accounts can work on every server today !!



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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

[Mike Blaszczak]

You should notice that the issues with servers contacting VAC are fixed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Christophe
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 06:57
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work

You're right, sry :)

But i don't care of the shields, i've just make a filtered search with 
not secure and that's what i found. And I have 4 servers ( 4 boxes of 
3-4 servers ) and all aren't Vac secure :/

That's why i think there is an huge problem, because of cheaters. All 
VAC banned accounts can work on every server today !!

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work after change map

[Andy Giesen]

Try putting -secure into the startup parameters.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Andrey Egorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi for all.
  I running Team Fortress 2 dedicated server and after change map VAC
  don't work. Why?

  My server.cfg
  hostname COTEC Online Team Fortress 2 Server
  sv_rcon_banpenalty 30
  sv_rcon_maxfailures 5
  sv_rcon_minfailures 5
  sv_rcon_minfailuretime 30
  sv_lan 1
  sv_maxplayers 16
  mp_maxrounds 5
  host_framerate 0
  sv_pure 1
  sv_consistency 1
  sv_contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sv_region 3
  rcon_password X
  sv_logecho 1
  fps_max 600
  sv_minrate 0
  sv_maxrate 2
  sv_minupdaterate 10
  sv_maxupdaterate 66
  sv_allowupload 1
  sv_allowdownload 1
  net_maxfilesize 15
  mp_autoteambalance 1
  mp_autoteambalance_delay 60
  mp_autoteambalance_warning_delay 30
  mp_teams_unbalance_limit 1
  mp_enableroundwaittime 0
  mp_bonusroundtime 8
  mp_restartround 0
  mp_stalemate_timelimit 300
  sv_voiceenable 1
  sv_alltalk 0
  mp_chattime 10
  sv_cheats 0

  exec mani_server.cfg
  exec banned_user.cfg
  exec banned_ip.cfg
  writeid
  writeip

  I run server with this parametrs:
  /srcds_run -game tf -port 27022 +map cp_dustbowl +sv_cheats 0

  Regards,
  Andrey.


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC don't work after change map

[Ronny Schedel]

Try sv_lan 0.



Hi for all.
I running Team Fortress 2 dedicated server and after change map VAC
don't work. Why?

My server.cfg
hostname COTEC Online Team Fortress 2 Server
sv_rcon_banpenalty 30
sv_rcon_maxfailures 5
sv_rcon_minfailures 5
sv_rcon_minfailuretime 30
sv_lan 1
sv_maxplayers 16
mp_maxrounds 5
host_framerate 0
sv_pure 1
sv_consistency 1
sv_contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sv_region 3
rcon_password X
sv_logecho 1
fps_max 600
sv_minrate 0
sv_maxrate 2
sv_minupdaterate 10
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_allowupload 1
sv_allowdownload 1
net_maxfilesize 15
mp_autoteambalance 1
mp_autoteambalance_delay 60
mp_autoteambalance_warning_delay 30
mp_teams_unbalance_limit 1
mp_enableroundwaittime 0
mp_bonusroundtime 8
mp_restartround 0
mp_stalemate_timelimit 300
sv_voiceenable 1
sv_alltalk 0
mp_chattime 10
sv_cheats 0

exec mani_server.cfg
exec banned_user.cfg
exec banned_ip.cfg
writeid
writeip

I run server with this parametrs:
/srcds_run -game tf -port 27022 +map cp_dustbowl +sv_cheats 0

Regards,
Andrey.


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Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[René Luckow]

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SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys
tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for
cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work?

On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can send those details directly to me.

 - Alfred

 Lubo wrote:
  I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
  there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
  them to him, to add protection against them to VAC?
 
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[Dan E]

My response: I hope you have many many admins.  There would be at least one
cheater a day on my server.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
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SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys
tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for
cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work?

On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can send those details directly to me.

 - Alfred

 Lubo wrote:
  I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
  there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
  them to him, to add protection against them to VAC?
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[ics]

I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins
keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off.

-ics

Dan E kirjoitti:

My response: I hope you have many many admins.  There would be at least one
cheater a day on my server.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

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SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys
tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for
cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work?

On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You can send those details directly to me.

- Alfred

Lubo wrote:


I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
them to him, to add protection against them to VAC?


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Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[ics]

So you know how VAC works? It does _delayed_ ban on the player, if
cheating is detected. This can be anywhere from 3 days from now to week
afaik (if at all, cheat = VAC-proof, not detected by VAC). I myself, i
trust my admins. They dont need to take demo from speedhackers because
they are so obvious. Aimbotters are too. They cant mask that horrible
crosshair jumping or shaking depending from the cheat at hand. From
wallhackers, i demand demo's and then they can ban. If someone comes to
complain, the demo comes in handy but usually no one comes. Guilty as
charged.

-ics

René Luckow kirjoitti:

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So VAC don't update that regularly?

Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot stuff?

Any website ressources to pull from?

At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times
a week, as the server has just been started again.

How do you deal with bans/complaints, are your admins required to record
cheaters for later inspection, maybe?

On 8/3/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins
keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off.

-ics

Dan E kirjoitti:


My response: I hope you have many many admins.  There would be at least


one


cheater a day on my server.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René


Luckow


Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

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SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you


guys


tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for
cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work?

On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



You can send those details directly to me.

- Alfred

Lubo wrote:



I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
them to him, to add protection against them to VAC?


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Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[Eirik Nilssen]

Active and experienced admins are your best weapon against cheaters. I would
also recomend joining an anti-cheat organisation which verify and sync bans.
Here in Norway, several large communities has joined forces against cheaters
via an organisation named Radar. All members of Radar share their bans
(after radar-admins have approved the demos) - giving us a much more
efficient way of dealing with cheaters.

The most common cheats are still WH, aimbot and no-recoil. Though most are
quite easy to spot, a few designer cheats has emerged the last year or so,
with much more possibilites for the user to tweak. These are alot more
sophisticated, and the usual give-aways are more subtle.

One of the most common mistakes a skilled cheater does, is to often
forget to check dangerous spots as long as there is noe real danger there
- since they of course already know this. This may be a sign for admins to
start recording a few demos of the player.

To analyze demos, I have a nice config here that might help you:

// F1 10% speed
// F2 50% speed
// F3 100% speed
// F4 500% speed
// F5 pause/resume demo
// F6 DEMOUI console
// F7 Wireframe
// F8 Wallhack
// F9 Mat_Proxy WH cycle on/off (alternative wh, press 2x)
// F10 Sound ESP (ukjent purpose)
// F11 minimodels on/off (for admin wh - used in combination with a 3. party
WH for demoanlyze)
// F12 Interpolate  impacts on/off (for aimbot detection)

echo F1 10% hastighet;
echo F2 50% hastighet;
echo F3 100% hastighet;
echo F4 500% hastighet;
echo F5 resume/pause demo
echo F6 DEMOUI console
echo F7 Wireframe
echo F8 Wallhack
echo F9 Mat_Proxy WH cycle on/off
echo F10 Sound ESP
echo F11 minimodels on/off
echo F12 Interpolate on/off + impacts on (for aimbot detection)

sv_cheats 1;

// Developer meldinger
alias devoff developer -1; con_notifytime 0
alias devon con_notifytime 4; developer 1
contimes 4

alias interpolate interon;
alias interon sv_cheats 1; sv_client_interpolate 0; cl_interpolate 0;
sv_showimpacts 1; devon; echo ** cl_interpolate off **; devoff; alias
interpolate interoff;;
alias interoff sv_client_interpolate 1; cl_interpolate 1;
show_showimpacts 0; devon; echo ** cl_interpolate on **; devoff; alias
interpolate interon;;
bind F12 interpolate;

alias minmod minon;
alias minon cl_minmodels 1; cl_min_ct 1; cl_min_t 1; alias minmod minoff;
devon; echo ** cl_minmodels on (1) **; devoff;
alias minoff cl_min_ct 2; cl_min_t 3; alias minmod minalloff; devon; echo
** cl_minmodels on (2/3) **; devoff;
alias minalloff cl_minmodels 0; alias minmod minon; devon; echo **
cl_minmodels off **; devoff;
bind F11 minmod;

bind F1 demo_timescale 0.1; devon; echo ** 10% hastighet **; devoff;
bind F2 demo_timescale 0.5; devon; echo ** 50% hastighet **; devoff;
bind F3 demo_timescale 1; devon; echo ** 100% hastighet **; devoff;
bind F4 demo_timescale 5; devon; echo ** 500% hastighet **; devoff;

bind F6 demoui;

alias demorun demoresume;
alias demoresume demo_resume; alias demorun demopause; devon; echo **
Demo resumed **; devoff;
alias demopause demo_pause; alias demorun demoresume; devon; echo ** Demo
paused **; devoff;
bind F5 demorun;

// mat proxy:

alias water00 mat_proxy 2; alias waterUp water01
alias water01 mat_proxy 1; alias waterUp water00
alias waterUp water00
bind F9 waterUp


//example sound esp:
alias sndesp00 snd_show 1;snd_visualize 1;alias sndespUp sndesp01
alias sndesp01 snd_show 1;snd_visualize 1;snd_showmixer 1;alias sndespUp
sndesp02
alias sndesp02 snd_show 0;snd_visualize 0;snd_showmixer 0;alias sndespUp
sndesp00
alias sndespUp sndesp00
bind F10 sndespUp




// example wirefame:
alias wireframe00 mat_measurefillrate 0;mat_luxels 0;alias wireUp
wireframe09
alias wireframe09 mat_wireframe 0;mat_measurefillrate 1;mat_luxels 0;alias
wireUp wireframe00
alias wireUp wireframe00
bind F7 wireUp


// example wallhack:
alias wall00 mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_luxels 0;r_drawopaquerenderables
1;mat_reversedepth 0;alias wallUp wall01
alias wall01 mat_depthbias_normal 1;alias wallUp wall02
alias wall02 mat_depthbias_normal 1;mat_luxels 1;alias wallUp wall03
alias wall03 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 1;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels
0;alias wallUp wall04
alias wall04 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels
0;alias wallUp wall05
alias wall05 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels
1;alias wallUp wall06
alias wall06 r_drawopaquerenderables 0;alias wallUp wall00
alias wallUp wall00
bind F8 wallUp


From: René Luckow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:33:14 +0200

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So VAC don't update that regularly?

Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot
stuff?

Any website ressources to pull from?

At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times
a week, as the server has just been started again.

How do you deal with bans

Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[René Luckow]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
So VAC don't update that regularly?

Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot stuff?

Any website ressources to pull from?

At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times
a week, as the server has just been started again.

How do you deal with bans/complaints, are your admins required to record
cheaters for later inspection, maybe?

On 8/3/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins
 keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off.

 -ics

 Dan E kirjoitti:
  My response: I hope you have many many admins.  There would be at least
 one
  cheater a day on my server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René
 Luckow
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
 
  --
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  SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you
 guys
  tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for
  cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work?
 
  On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can send those details directly to me.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Lubo wrote:
 
  I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
  there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
  them to him, to add protection against them to VAC?
 
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats

[Alfred Reynolds]

You can send those details directly to me.

- Alfred

Lubo wrote:
 I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is
 there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send
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Re: [hlds_linux] vac servers down?

[Whisper]

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VAC up for us here

On 3/6/07, Andrius Pirus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 PING half-life.speakeasy-nyc.hlauth.net (207.173.176.161) 56(84) bytes
 of data.
 --- half-life.speakeasy-nyc.hlauth.net ping statistics ---
 14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12998ms

 --- half-life.speakeasy-sea.hlauth.net ping statistics ---
 28 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 26998ms
 --- half-life.speakeasy-chi.hlauth.net ping statistics ---
 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5999ms
 So i tried to ping from 3 different pcs.. No results.. What does it
 mean? That vac authentication servers are down? Or they have some
 icmp block(firewalled). I remember that about 3-4 months ago i could
 normally ping these servers or at least 2 of them..
 Maybe there are some alternative addresses which i can write in
 valvecomm.lst?
 Cause vac on my server isn't working..
 Downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net ... and in some 1-2
 minutes:
 Error downloading Security Module from Speakeasy.net
 Server is not Secure.
 :( Plz help me.. My server now is full of cheaters..


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC OFFLINE ??

[Marcel]

Down again?

- Marcel

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[Paul]

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I had this problem...

Simply to fix it run a steam update manually. (i.e dont wait for auto)

when i did that my problems where gone


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite
 some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated server
 box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and are
 configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of the
 servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems.

 The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the 2
 servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3651
 secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping runs
 version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high and low for
 answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how this may be
 relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please enlighten me as
 to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any suggestions on the
 issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1 server it would be most
 welcome and very appreciated. :)



 Kym


 Hi,

 I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they load
 up
 and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching
 itself
 off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.

 Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if cheaters can
 just disable the anti cheat...

 Has anyone else had this problem?

 -Scott


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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[kym . dziki]

Hello,

I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite
some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated server
box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and are
configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of the
servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems.

The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the 2
servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3651
secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping runs
version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high and low for
answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how this may be
relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please enlighten me as
to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any suggestions on the
issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1 server it would be most
welcome and very appreciated. :)



Kym

 Hi,

 I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they load
 up
 and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching
 itself
 off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.

 Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if cheaters can
 just disable the anti cheat...

 Has anyone else had this problem?

 -Scott


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[Krillins World]

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VAC is not nor ever has been an Anti-Cheat program. From what we gathered
in the many years of running secure HL1  HL2 servers is, VAC is just a
detection and reporting tool. If VAC detects a certian signature from a hack
running while their client is running it reports it to the secure center
where it is investigated then the steamid of the user is placed on a global
ban list which prevents these hacker and cheaters from playing in SECURE
servers for one full year. These players are also known as VAC Banned
Players.

As for your issue there was a serious problem with a few of the earlier
version of the HLDS that they call Stdio Builds. It appears as if the server
you are having issue with is too far out of date to handle the changes in
the VAC module. Add the -autoupdate to the launch of the server and let them
update accordingly. You may have to reupdate your steam as many changed to
the ./steam module have evolved when it comes to the updating process which
appears is what happened to your old troubled server of v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213.
We used to have very many VAC issues with the version of 3421 and had to
revert back to an older version of 3327.

Best Reguarrds,
Krillin

On 11/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite
 some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated server
 box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and are
 configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of the
 servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems.

 The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the 2
 servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3651
 secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping runs
 version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high and low for
 answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how this may be
 relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please enlighten me as
 to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any suggestions on the
 issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1 server it would be most
 welcome and very appreciated. :)



 Kym

  Hi,
 
  I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they
 load
  up
  and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching
  itself
  off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.
 
  Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if cheaters
 can
  just disable the anti cheat...
 
  Has anyone else had this problem?
 
  -Scott
 
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming]

Really?  Tell me, please, what VAC stands for.



-Original Message-
From: Krillins World [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:00 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] VAC is not nor ever has
been an Anti-Cheat program. From what we gathered in the many years of
running secure HL1  HL2 servers is, VAC is just a detection and reporting
tool. If VAC detects a certian signature from a hack running while their
client is running it reports it to the secure center where it is
investigated then the steamid of the user is placed on a global ban list
which prevents these hacker and cheaters from playing in SECURE servers for
one full year. These players are also known as VAC Banned Players.

As for your issue there was a serious problem with a few of the earlier
version of the HLDS that they call Stdio Builds. It appears as if the server
you are having issue with is too far out of date to handle the changes in
the VAC module. Add the -autoupdate to the launch of the server and let them
update accordingly. You may have to reupdate your steam as many changed to
the ./steam module have evolved when it comes to the updating process which
appears is what happened to your old troubled server of v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213.
We used to have very many VAC issues with the version of 3421 and had to
revert back to an older version of 3327.

Best Reguarrds,
Krillin

On 11/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite
 some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated
 server box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and
 are configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of
 the servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems.

 The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the
 2 servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio
 3651 secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping
 runs version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high
 and low for answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how
 this may be relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please
 enlighten me as to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any
 suggestions on the issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1
 server it would be most welcome and very appreciated. :)



 Kym

  Hi,
 
  I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they
 load
  up
  and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching
  itself off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.
 
  Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if
  cheaters
 can
  just disable the anti cheat...
 
  Has anyone else had this problem?
 
  -Scott
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[Krillins World]

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Piece of crap? Just because they calls it VALVe ANTI-CHEAT doesn't mean that
is it in the sence of the word. Plugins like Cheating-Death with true
Anti-Cheats ditorants. VAC is and always will a detector more than a
ditorant. Don't believe me, look into your self smart***.

Krillin


On 11/12/06, J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really?  Tell me, please, what VAC stands for.



 -Original Message-
 From: Krillins World [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:00 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] VAC is not nor ever has
 been an Anti-Cheat program. From what we gathered in the many years of
 running secure HL1  HL2 servers is, VAC is just a detection and reporting
 tool. If VAC detects a certian signature from a hack running while their
 client is running it reports it to the secure center where it is
 investigated then the steamid of the user is placed on a global ban list
 which prevents these hacker and cheaters from playing in SECURE servers
 for
 one full year. These players are also known as VAC Banned Players.

 As for your issue there was a serious problem with a few of the earlier
 version of the HLDS that they call Stdio Builds. It appears as if the
 server
 you are having issue with is too far out of date to handle the changes in
 the VAC module. Add the -autoupdate to the launch of the server and let
 them
 update accordingly. You may have to reupdate your steam as many changed to
 the ./steam module have evolved when it comes to the updating process
 which
 appears is what happened to your old troubled server of v1.1.2.5/Stdio
 3213.
 We used to have very many VAC issues with the version of 3421 and had to
 revert back to an older version of 3327.

 Best Reguarrds,
 Krillin

 On 11/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I have been experiencing this problem with one of my servers for quite
  some time now. I have 3 CS 1.6 servers running on a linux dedicated
  server box. They all run the same versions of amxx and meta mod and
  are configured basically the same . VAC drops constantly from one of
  the servers, the other 2 run secured all the time without any problems.
 
  The only difference I have noticed in the servers thus far is that the
  2 servers that do not have any VAC issues run version v1.1.2.5/Stdio
  3651 secure while the server which has constant issues of VAC dropping
  runs version v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3213 secure. I have been searching high
  and low for answers as to what the Stdio number indicates and if/how
  this may be relative to my VAC issue to no avail. If anyone can please
  enlighten me as to what the Stdio number is indicative of or has any
  suggestions on the issues of why VAC drops constantly from only 1
  server it would be most welcome and very appreciated. :)
 
 
 
  Kym
 
   Hi,
  
   I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they
  load
   up
   and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching
   itself off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.
  
   Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if
   cheaters
  can
   just disable the anti cheat...
  
   Has anyone else had this problem?
  
   -Scott
  
  
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem

[Jonathan]

That fixed the problem, thanks a lot! :)

 Have you added +ip x.x.x.x to the command line, where x.x.x.x is the
 public IP? We had a similar issue and adding that fixed it.

 Ben

 On 29/10/06, Regime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like a firewall issue. Check logs on your devices to see if
 anything is being dropped (incoming and outgoing.) By the sounds of it,
 probably look on your 'second router' first.
 Good luck,
 ---
 Regime

 Jonathan wrote:
  VAC works on the other servers in my network. What differs these ones
 from
  the ones that work is that they're part of a server cluster with
 internet
  access behind a second router. They have public IP addresses.
 
  The servers themselves are accessible from the outside without
 problems,
  it's just VAC that won't start up.
 
  /Jonathan
 
 


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem

[Ben Laban]

Have you added +ip x.x.x.x to the command line, where x.x.x.x is the
public IP? We had a similar issue and adding that fixed it.

Ben

On 29/10/06, Regime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sounds like a firewall issue. Check logs on your devices to see if
anything is being dropped (incoming and outgoing.) By the sounds of it,
probably look on your 'second router' first.
Good luck,
---
Regime

Jonathan wrote:
 VAC works on the other servers in my network. What differs these ones from
 the ones that work is that they're part of a server cluster with internet
 access behind a second router. They have public IP addresses.

 The servers themselves are accessible from the outside without problems,
 it's just VAC that won't start up.

 /Jonathan




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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem

[Regime]

Sounds like a firewall issue. Check logs on your devices to see if
anything is being dropped (incoming and outgoing.) By the sounds of it,
probably look on your 'second router' first.
Good luck,
---
Regime

Jonathan wrote:

VAC works on the other servers in my network. What differs these ones from
the ones that work is that they're part of a server cluster with internet
access behind a second router. They have public IP addresses.

The servers themselves are accessible from the outside without problems,
it's just VAC that won't start up.

/Jonathan





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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem

[Jonathan]

VAC works on the other servers in my network. What differs these ones from
the ones that work is that they're part of a server cluster with internet
access behind a second router. They have public IP addresses.

The servers themselves are accessible from the outside without problems,
it's just VAC that won't start up.

/Jonathan

 Jonathan wrote:
 hello, i can't get VAC to work properly.

 i get the following message:

 version :  47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 3651 insecure (secure mode enabled,
 disconnected from Steam3)

 i tried reinstalling hlds like some posts suggested, but it didn't do me
 any good

 i have secure 1 in liblist.gam and i don't start the game with
 -insecure.. what else could be causing this?

 Your connection to the Steam servers is probably failing.

 If you are versed in UNIX, you can use strings and grep to try
 fishing out the hostnames (tip: they'll probably contain
 valvesoftware.com) from all the .so files, then try pinging these
 servers, etc. etc. etc. If you're even more versed, you could use
 tcpdump and/or ethereal to capture all the network communication the
 dedicated server is doing and analyze it to find the problem.

 For starts, if you're not sure that your Internet connection is working
 perfectly, try running a simple ping such as ping google.com. If ping
 doesn't output anything, try nslookup google.com to see if your DNS
 servers are working.

 At the end of the day, you'll probably end up having to do something as
 menial as unplug and re-plug your router into the mains or reconfiguring
 your server's network interface for it to start working again. (Believe
 me, I once struck alarm on this very list when my Net connection didn't
 work... and yes, my router was to blame. A 230V [common mains voltage
 across Europe] restart later, everything worked again.)

 I hope I'm not sounding like one of those $3-per-minute support-line
 people, trying to avoid causes of radioactive human stupidity like is
 your printer actually turned on?... ;-)

 ~~ Ondra

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem

[Kennycom]

That bit of information would have been nice the first go-around...
Start looking at the setup on the 2nd router.

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC problem


 VAC works on the other servers in my network. What differs these ones from
 the ones that work is that they're part of a server cluster with internet
 access behind a second router. They have public IP addresses.

 The servers themselves are accessible from the outside without problems,
 it's just VAC that won't start up.

 /Jonathan

 Jonathan wrote:
 hello, i can't get VAC to work properly.

 i get the following message:

 version :  47/1.1.2.5/Stdio 3651 insecure (secure mode enabled,
 disconnected from Steam3)

 i tried reinstalling hlds like some posts suggested, but it didn't do me
 any good

 i have secure 1 in liblist.gam and i don't start the game with
 -insecure.. what else could be causing this?

 Your connection to the Steam servers is probably failing.

 If you are versed in UNIX, you can use strings and grep to try
 fishing out the hostnames (tip: they'll probably contain
 valvesoftware.com) from all the .so files, then try pinging these
 servers, etc. etc. etc. If you're even more versed, you could use
 tcpdump and/or ethereal to capture all the network communication the
 dedicated server is doing and analyze it to find the problem.

 For starts, if you're not sure that your Internet connection is working
 perfectly, try running a simple ping such as ping google.com. If ping
 doesn't output anything, try nslookup google.com to see if your DNS
 servers are working.

 At the end of the day, you'll probably end up having to do something as
 menial as unplug and re-plug your router into the mains or reconfiguring
 your server's network interface for it to start working again. (Believe
 me, I once struck alarm on this very list when my Net connection didn't
 work... and yes, my router was to blame. A 230V [common mains voltage
 across Europe] restart later, everything worked again.)

 I hope I'm not sounding like one of those $3-per-minute support-line
 people, trying to avoid causes of radioactive human stupidity like is
 your printer actually turned on?... ;-)

 ~~ Ondra

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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[sykes]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:12:46 +1200, Scott Pettit wrote
Yea,

  we run several HL1 mod servers, and frequently find them un-vac'd its really
hard to maintain it..

  The usual cause is timeouts on map change, while the server - reconnects to
register to VAC.. from our end it looks like capacity problems with VAC
servers.. :o(

S.


 Hi,

 I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they
 load up and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either
 switching itself off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.

 Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if
 cheaters can just disable the anti cheat...

 Has anyone else had this problem?

 -Scott

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users

[sirtom__]

SSClient hooks nothing, it is a simple server/clienttool. The client connects 
to the SSC-server.
SSC can make ingame screenshots and some cfg checks, that's all. At least it 
can do a proccess scan,
for finding some resident cheats in memory.

If VAC really kicks this users, we all should be aware, of how VAC is 
detecting cheats... There are so
many cheats out there that aren't detected and VAC detects AC software, that is 
- shortly - LOL.

/me remebers the time where PunkBuster and CSGuard did a greater job than VAC 
ever will?!

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Gesendet: 27.09.06 22:34:41
 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users


 It looks to me like that application hooks the client in much the same way a
 cheat does.


 - Original Message -
 From: Hoder Balder Marcus Jensen
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:13 PM
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users


  VAC started 3-4 weeks ago to kick clients running ssClient (ssc.exe)
 
  Screenshot:
  http://www.hoder.dk/csh/iviewcapture_date_26_09_2006_time_23_23_52.jpg
 
  I contacted steampowered support (steampowered  VAC forum was offcourse
  useless, as i got assaulted by a couple of Valve fanboy) for a
  verification and got the following answer:
 
  The ssc.exe is not compatible with VAC secured servers, but users
  running it are not receiving VAC bans. Your account does not have any
  VAC bans and if you disable that program you should be able to join
  secure servers.
 
  Could the VAC developers give a reason why SSC suddently is not allowed
  on secure servers and if it's a mistake, maybe fix it :).
 
  Thanks.
 


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users

[Erik Hollensbe]

On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


SSClient hooks nothing, it is a simple server/clienttool. The
client connects to the SSC-server.
SSC can make ingame screenshots and some cfg checks, that's all. At
least it can do a proccess scan,
for finding some resident cheats in memory.



So it's more or less a proxy? I believe VAC checks for those
(although that check is relatively easy to defeat) as well.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users

[sirtom__]

 On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  SSClient hooks nothing, it is a simple server/clienttool. The
  client connects to the SSC-server.
  SSC can make ingame screenshots and some cfg checks, that's all. At
  least it can do a proccess scan,
  for finding some resident cheats in memory.
 

 So it's more or less a proxy? I believe VAC checks for those
 (although that check is relatively easy to defeat) as well.

 --
 Erik Hollensbe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Yes. Ah and btw. it would be funny if Aequitas gets detected too in future.
It is the own AC software of the ESL.eu - biggest eSport-league worldwide...

http://www.esl.eu/de/faq/aequitas/


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users

[Joachim Sehlstedt]

Hi,

No it's not a proxy, with client he mean the SSC-client.

greetings
JS

Erik Hollensbe wrote:


On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


SSClient hooks nothing, it is a simple server/clienttool. The
client connects to the SSC-server.
SSC can make ingame screenshots and some cfg checks, that's all. At
least it can do a proccess scan,
for finding some resident cheats in memory.



So it's more or less a proxy? I believe VAC checks for those
(although that check is relatively easy to defeat) as well.

--
Erik Hollensbe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users

[Kevin Ottalini]

It looks to me like that application hooks the client in much the same way a
cheat does.


- Original Message -
From: Hoder Balder Marcus Jensen
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC kicks ssClient users



VAC started 3-4 weeks ago to kick clients running ssClient (ssc.exe)

Screenshot:
http://www.hoder.dk/csh/iviewcapture_date_26_09_2006_time_23_23_52.jpg

I contacted steampowered support (steampowered  VAC forum was offcourse
useless, as i got assaulted by a couple of Valve fanboy) for a
verification and got the following answer:

The ssc.exe is not compatible with VAC secured servers, but users
running it are not receiving VAC bans. Your account does not have any
VAC bans and if you disable that program you should be able to join
secure servers.

Could the VAC developers give a reason why SSC suddently is not allowed
on secure servers and if it's a mistake, maybe fix it :).

Thanks.




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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC secured

[Scott Pettit]

Hi,

I've also been having problems lately with our CS 1.6 servers - they load up
and secure themselves, but after a few hours VAC is either switching itself
off, or there's a new cheat that takes it off.

Either way it makes it hard to maintain cheat free servers if cheaters can
just disable the anti cheat...

Has anyone else had this problem?

-Scott


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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC down again?

[Knuts - jolt.co.uk]

We are getting the same error, DOD CS all unable to connect :(

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gamer
Sent: 14 August 2006 20:02
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC down again?

VAC down again?
version : 1.0.0.28/7 2784 insecure (secure mode enabled, disconnected from
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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Scott Tuttle]

He said...

QUOTE:
 SuSE 10.1
 AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit)
 1024 mb ram
 160 GB HDD
 100/100-Mbps WAN
 ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S:
 213.237.12.210:27012 ---
END QUOTE:

How is he running an old 64bit build of hlds?  Unless I am confused hes
running 32 bit

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Andrew Forsberg
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:49 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

 He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds.
 Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1
 available for those
 servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does
 have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it.

 On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote:
  If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then
 you are set.  On 32
  bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available.
 You either run
  vac2 or you run in insecure mode.



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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Andrew Forsberg]

On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 09:06 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote:
 How is he running an old 64bit build of hlds?  Unless I am confused hes
 running 32 bit

My bad, I was confusing threads.


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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Henrik Semark]

[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

Sow I don't need to anything on my server if VAC is activate on it ? If the
client a using VAC2 my server will use it to ?
/  [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]

P.S Just sow we don't misunderstand each other. My server spec.

SuSE 10.1
AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit)
1024 mb ram
160 GB HDD
100/100-Mbps WAN
ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S: 213.237.12.210:27012 ---




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Reply-To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject:  Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
Date:  Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:36:56 +0300

I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff.
When
they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if
your
engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their
clients.
Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module
needs to be
activated (secure server) or no (insecure).

- Original Message -
From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2



You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform.


On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 21:15 +, Henrik Semark wrote:

[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

 I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ?

/ [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]




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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Scott Tuttle]

If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set.  On 32
bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available.  You either run
vac2 or you run in insecure mode.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Henrik Semark
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:22 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

 Sow I don't need to anything on my server if VAC is activate
 on it ? If the
 client a using VAC2 my server will use it to ?
 /  [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]

 P.S Just sow we don't misunderstand each other. My server spec.

 SuSE 10.1
 AMD Athlon 2500+ (32 bit)
 1024 mb ram
 160 GB HDD
 100/100-Mbps WAN
 ip: --- CS 1.6: 213.237.12.210:27015 ---|--- CS.S:
 213.237.12.210:27012 ---




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 From:  Evaldas Þilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject:  Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
 Date:  Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:36:56 +0300
 I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff.
 When
 they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if
 your
 engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their
 clients.
 Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module
 needs to be
 activated (secure server) or no (insecure).
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
 
 
 You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform.
 
 
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   I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ?
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Andrew Forsberg]

He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds.
Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1 available for those
servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does
have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it.

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote:
 If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set.  On 32
 bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available.  You either run
 vac2 or you run in insecure mode.



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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Evaldas Žilinskas]

And you think, that VALVe will leave VAC1 servers (and it's system) online
only because of the AMD64 witch is not updated for ages? :). Plus, sometimes
i thin that VAC1 = VAC2 just some updated tracking things.

- Original Message -
From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:49 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2



He's specifically interested in VAC2 on the old 64 bit build of hlds.
Which, as stated, does not exist. There is only VAC1 available for those
servers. Also, VAC2 is *not* just a client side system. A server does
have to auth with the VAC servers in order to run it.

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 11:41 -0400, Scott Tuttle wrote:

If you are running 32 bit and your server is secure then you are set.  On
32
bit hlds/srcds instances vac2 is the only vac available.  You either run
vac2 or you run in insecure mode.




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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Scott Tuttle]

It is automatic.  You don't do anything.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Henrik Semark
 Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:18 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

 I just have a question about VAC 1 and 2 how do you set it up ?
 is it a meter like -pingboost # ?

 / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]


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 From:  Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject:  RE: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
 Date:  Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:05:10 +0100
 VAC2 and AMD64 don't work together, you can run VAC 1,
 unless I missed
 something.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Saint K.
 Sent: 10 July 2006 19:31
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Fw: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
 
   They are still releasing updates for AMD64bit amxmodx.
 Also VAC2 seems to
   work on my server?
 
   Saint K.
   - Original Message -
   From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:40 PM
   Subject: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
  
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
   Valve,
  
  
  
   We have been running Opteron servers since September
 2003, I do believe
   we
   were the first to have free to play ones in the world
   (http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have
 seen support for
   64
   bit reduce over the years to the state where I have
 been running them in
   32
   bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have
 VAC2 running. I
   know
   it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure
 helps, the slots
   we
   can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus.
  
  
  
   Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site:
  
  
  
   AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest
 contributions was a 64bit
   port
   of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In
 fact, AMX Mod X was
   the
   first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility.
 AMX Mod does not
   run in
   64bit mode.
  
   However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64
 support -- the latest
   AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2.
 Furthermore, the
   JIT
   is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of
 potential speed is
   lost.
   Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for
   debugging/developer purposes.
  
  
  
   To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to
 sound old hat,
   coming
   up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared.
  
  
  
   The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer
 on what is the
   future
   in Valves eyes without the fob off of it will be ready
 when it's ready
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
  
  
   Knuts
  
   jolt.co.uk
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Henrik Semark]

[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ?

/ [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]




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From:  Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject:  RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2
Date:  Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:10:20 -0400

It is automatic.  You don't do anything.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Henrik Semark
 Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:18 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

 [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

 I just have a question about VAC 1 and 2 how do you set it up ?
 is it a meter like -pingboost # ?

 / [Team-Jogge] SuicideMe [DK]


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 From:  Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To:  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject:  RE: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
 Date:  Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:05:10 +0100
 VAC2 and AMD64 don't work together, you can run VAC 1,
 unless I missed
 something.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Saint K.
 Sent: 10 July 2006 19:31
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Fw: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
 
   They are still releasing updates for AMD64bit amxmodx.
 Also VAC2 seems to
   work on my server?
 
   Saint K.
   - Original Message -
   From: Knuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:40 PM
   Subject: [hlds_linux] 64 bit support
  
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
   Valve,
  
  
  
   We have been running Opteron servers since September
 2003, I do believe
   we
   were the first to have free to play ones in the world
   (http://www.jolt.co.uk/index.php?articleid=329). I have
 seen support for
   64
   bit reduce over the years to the state where I have
 been running them in
   32
   bit for what seems like an eternity just so we can have
 VAC2 running. I
   know
   it's no replacement for a good admin team but it sure
 helps, the slots
   we
   can run are nowhere near the capabilities of the cpus.
  
  
  
   Even amxmodx have stopped supporting it, to quote the amxx site:
  
  
  
   AMD64 Support - One of AMX Mod X's biggest
 contributions was a 64bit
   port
   of the Pawn/Small compiler and virtual machine. In
 fact, AMX Mod X was
   the
   first Metamod plugin to achieve AMD64 compatibility.
 AMX Mod does not
   run in
   64bit mode.
  
   However, Valve has stopped maintaining their AMD64
 support -- the latest
   AMD64 engine is missing client cvar querying and VAC2.
 Furthermore, the
   JIT
   is not available on AMD64, meaning a great deal of
 potential speed is
   lost.
   Running HLDS on AMD64 in 64bit mode is unadvised except for
   debugging/developer purposes.
  
  
  
   To say it will be ready when its ready is starting to
 sound old hat,
   coming
   up to 3 years and AMD64 support has disappeared.
  
  
  
   The future is 64 bit, can we have a definitive answer
 on what is the
   future
   in Valves eyes without the fob off of it will be ready
 when it's ready
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
  
  
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   jolt.co.uk
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2

[Evaldas Žilinskas]

I'm about 90% sure, that VAC1 or VAC2 is more like clienside stuff. When
they update it, we just get a platform update thing, and even if your
engine shows old VAC message, people are using the VAC2 on their clients.
Only thing that server needs to do is tell client if the module needs to be
activated (secure server) or no (insecure).

- Original Message -
From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:28 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC 1 and 2



You can't. It has never been released for the 64 bit platform.


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 I know that VAC1 start it self, but how do I start VAC2 ?

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RE: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[kama]

you cant read sv_secure from a plugin. or at least its not possible in
console to write sv_secure and get a 1 or 0.

/Bjorn

On Tue, 2 May 2006, Alfred Reynolds wrote:

 Why don't you use sv_secure?

 kama wrote:
  Alfred, is it possible to get a read only cvar to check if VAC is
  enabled or not?
 
  /Bjorn
 
  On Mon, 1 May 2006, kama wrote:
 
 
  Well, it would be preferably to have a readonly cvar sv_secure that
  can be
  queried from within a plugin.
 
  /Bjorn
 
  On Mon, 1 May 2006, W0kk3L wrote:
 
  As far as i could find... no. Well, you can get the status
  externally by
  using something like qstat, or by sending an rcon command to the
  server. The easiest way is trough qstat, because you don't need a
  rcon password for it.
  I believe this is the same way the clients do it for displaying the
  VAC
  state in the favorites list.
 
  -W0kk3L-
 
  - Original Message -
  From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
  regularly
 
 
 
  Is there any other way than using status that will say if the
  server is secure or not?
 
  /Bjorn
 
  On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, W0kk3L wrote:
 
  Sure,
 
  I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is
  mostly SQL based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
  But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so
  it would work for one server. If you want it to work on more
  servers, just select them first, and place the code below in that
  loop.
 
  Here it comes:
 
 
 --
  # # Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are
  secure. If not, restart them...
  #
 
  echo  - Scanning servers...
  QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep
  secure=1`; if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
  echo   Server is secure
  else
  echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting
  this server! ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new
  rconpassword say Server is
  VAC insecure... will restart now!
  sleep 3
  echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
  ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
  fi
  echo  - Done.
 
 
 ---
 
  Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And
  finally add it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
  As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)
 
  -W0kk3L-
 
  - Original Message -
  From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
  regularly
 
 
  Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?
 
  FiRe
 
  - Original Message -
  Subject:
  Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
  regularly From: W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date:
  Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
  To:
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 
  To:
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 
  Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on
  daily basis. We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S)
  and we've performed 21 VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those
  server. But i have to say there was one major reboot of all 20
  server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers themself were
  being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
  reboots per day.
 
  What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our
  hands. It can be
  caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In
  both ways, you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about
  it is making the reboots automated, so the server are protected
  most of the time. On our servers i've created a script which
  reads the secure status by qstat. If that status is not 1
  (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message to the
  server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
  rcon quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected
  servers. Quite simple, but effective.
 
  -W0kk3L-
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
  Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
  regularly
 
 
  Greetings
 
  Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going
  insecure regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so
  have Vac running again? If yes, what can I do against it?
 
  cheers
  SecurityFox
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[Alfred Reynolds]

Why don't you use sv_secure?

kama wrote:
 Alfred, is it possible to get a read only cvar to check if VAC is
 enabled or not?

 /Bjorn

 On Mon, 1 May 2006, kama wrote:


 Well, it would be preferably to have a readonly cvar sv_secure that
 can be
 queried from within a plugin.

 /Bjorn

 On Mon, 1 May 2006, W0kk3L wrote:

 As far as i could find... no. Well, you can get the status
 externally by
 using something like qstat, or by sending an rcon command to the
 server. The easiest way is trough qstat, because you don't need a
 rcon password for it.
 I believe this is the same way the clients do it for displaying the
 VAC
 state in the favorites list.

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly



 Is there any other way than using status that will say if the
 server is secure or not?

 /Bjorn

 On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, W0kk3L wrote:

 Sure,

 I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is
 mostly SQL based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
 But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so
 it would work for one server. If you want it to work on more
 servers, just select them first, and place the code below in that
 loop.

 Here it comes:


--
 # # Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are
 secure. If not, restart them...
 #

 echo  - Scanning servers...
 QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep
 secure=1`; if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
 echo   Server is secure
 else
 echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting
 this server! ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new
 rconpassword say Server is
 VAC insecure... will restart now!
 sleep 3
 echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
 ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
 fi
 echo  - Done.


---

 Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And
 finally add it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
 As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly


 Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?

 FiRe

 - Original Message -
 Subject:
 Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly From: W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:
 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com


 Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on
 daily basis. We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S)
 and we've performed 21 VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those
 server. But i have to say there was one major reboot of all 20
 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers themself were
 being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
 reboots per day.

 What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our
 hands. It can be
 caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In
 both ways, you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about
 it is making the reboots automated, so the server are protected
 most of the time. On our servers i've created a script which
 reads the secure status by qstat. If that status is not 1
 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message to the
 server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
 rcon quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected
 servers. Quite simple, but effective.

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly


 Greetings

 Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going
 insecure regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so
 have Vac running again? If yes, what can I do against it?

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[Craig Moore]

I thought it was read-only, at least in the source engine since you
have to disable VAC in the start line.

On 5/2/06, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why don't you use sv_secure?

kama wrote:
 Alfred, is it possible to get a read only cvar to check if VAC is
 enabled or not?

 /Bjorn

 On Mon, 1 May 2006, kama wrote:


 Well, it would be preferably to have a readonly cvar sv_secure that
 can be
 queried from within a plugin.

 /Bjorn

 On Mon, 1 May 2006, W0kk3L wrote:

 As far as i could find... no. Well, you can get the status
 externally by
 using something like qstat, or by sending an rcon command to the
 server. The easiest way is trough qstat, because you don't need a
 rcon password for it.
 I believe this is the same way the clients do it for displaying the
 VAC
 state in the favorites list.

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly



 Is there any other way than using status that will say if the
 server is secure or not?

 /Bjorn

 On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, W0kk3L wrote:

 Sure,

 I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is
 mostly SQL based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
 But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so
 it would work for one server. If you want it to work on more
 servers, just select them first, and place the code below in that
 loop.

 Here it comes:


--
 # # Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are
 secure. If not, restart them...
 #

 echo  - Scanning servers...
 QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep
 secure=1`; if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
 echo   Server is secure
 else
 echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting
 this server! ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new
 rconpassword say Server is
 VAC insecure... will restart now!
 sleep 3
 echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
 ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
 fi
 echo  - Done.


---

 Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And
 finally add it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
 As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly


 Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?

 FiRe

 - Original Message -
 Subject:
 Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly From: W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:
 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com


 Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on
 daily basis. We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S)
 and we've performed 21 VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those
 server. But i have to say there was one major reboot of all 20
 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers themself were
 being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
 reboots per day.

 What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our
 hands. It can be
 caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In
 both ways, you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about
 it is making the reboots automated, so the server are protected
 most of the time. On our servers i've created a script which
 reads the secure status by qstat. If that status is not 1
 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message to the
 server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
 rcon quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected
 servers. Quite simple, but effective.

 -W0kk3L-

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
 regularly


 Greetings

 Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going
 insecure regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so
 have Vac running again? If yes, what can I do against it?

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[W0kk3L]

Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily basis.
We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've performed 21
VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say there was
one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers
themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
reboots per day.

What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our hands. It can be
caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In both ways,
you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about it is making the
reboots automated, so the server are protected most of the time. On our
servers i've created a script which reads the secure status by qstat. If
that status is not 1 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message
to the server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an rcon
quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected servers. Quite simple,
but effective.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly



Greetings

Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going insecure
regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so have Vac running
again?
If yes, what can I do against it?

cheers
SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[FiRe]

Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?

FiRe

- Original Message -
Subject:
Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly
From:
W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
To:
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

To:
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com


Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily basis.
We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've performed 21
VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say there was
one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers
themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
reboots per day.

What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our hands. It can be
caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In both ways,
you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about it is making the
reboots automated, so the server are protected most of the time. On our
servers i've created a script which reads the secure status by qstat. If
that status is not 1 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message
to the server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an rcon
quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected servers. Quite simple,
but effective.

-W0kk3L-

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly



Greetings

Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going insecure
regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so have Vac running
again?
If yes, what can I do against it?

cheers
SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[W0kk3L]

Sure,

I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is mostly SQL
based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so it would
work for one server. If you want it to work on more servers, just select
them first, and place the code below in that loop.

Here it comes:
--
#
# Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are secure. If not,
restart them...
#

echo  - Scanning servers...
QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep secure=1`;
if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
   echo   Server is secure
else
   echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting this
server!
   ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword say Server is
VAC insecure... will restart now!
   sleep 3
   echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
   ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
fi
echo  - Done.
---

Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And finally add
it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly



Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?

FiRe

- Original Message -
Subject:
Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly
From:
W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
To:
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

To:
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com


Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily basis.
We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've performed 21
VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say there
was
one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers
themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
reboots per day.

What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our hands. It can
be
caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In both ways,
you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about it is making the
reboots automated, so the server are protected most of the time. On our
servers i've created a script which reads the secure status by qstat. If
that status is not 1 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message
to the server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
rcon
quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected servers. Quite
simple,
but effective.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly



Greetings

Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going insecure
regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so have Vac running
again?
If yes, what can I do against it?

cheers
SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[kama]

Is there any other way than using status that will say if the server is
secure or not?

/Bjorn

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, W0kk3L wrote:

 Sure,

 I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is mostly SQL
 based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
 But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so it would
 work for one server. If you want it to work on more servers, just select
 them first, and place the code below in that loop.

 Here it comes:
 --
 #
 # Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are secure. If not,
 restart them...
 #

 echo  - Scanning servers...
 QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep secure=1`;
 if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
 echo   Server is secure
 else
 echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting this
 server!
 ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword say Server is
 VAC insecure... will restart now!
 sleep 3
 echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
 ./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
 fi
 echo  - Done.
 ---

 Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And finally add
 it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
 As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly


  Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?
 
  FiRe
 
  - Original Message -
  Subject:
  Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly
  From:
  W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date:
  Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
  To:
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 
  To:
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 
  Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily basis.
  We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've performed 21
  VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say there
  was
  one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC servers
  themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC insecure
  reboots per day.
 
  What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our hands. It can
  be
  caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In both ways,
  you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about it is making the
  reboots automated, so the server are protected most of the time. On our
  servers i've created a script which reads the secure status by qstat. If
  that status is not 1 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a message
  to the server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
  rcon
  quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected servers. Quite
  simple,
  but effective.
 
  -W0kk3L-
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
  Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly
 
 
  Greetings
 
  Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going insecure
  regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so have Vac running
  again?
  If yes, what can I do against it?
 
  cheers
  SecurityFox
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[Erik Hollensbe]

On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:47 PM, W0kk3L wrote:


Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily
basis.
We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've
performed 21
VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say
there was
one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC
servers
themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC
insecure
reboots per day.


Two things:

First, You don't have to reboot the server to bring them secure again
(or at least, you shouldn't). Our servers came back secure fine
within a minutes, as did many others.

Second, for some mail from you kept getting flagged as junk in my
Mail client, but no one else on the hlds_linux list did. I took a
peek at it and you have this header in each mail you send out:

Precedence: bulk

Which tells a lot of mail systems that your mail is spam.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[Erik Hollensbe]

On Apr 30, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Erik Hollensbe wrote:



Precedence: bulk

Which tells a lot of mail systems that your mail is spam.


Ack! That's a listinfo deal, oopsie.

It's your name, here's the SA information:

X-Spam-Status:  Yes, score=1.5 required=1.0
tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS  autolearn=no version=3.1.0
X-Spam-Level:   *

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[W0kk3L]

Well, that's the first time i've heard that one :)
But i'm not gonna change my name ;)

-W0kk3L-

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From: Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly




On Apr 30, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Erik Hollensbe wrote:



Precedence: bulk

Which tells a lot of mail systems that your mail is spam.


Ack! That's a listinfo deal, oopsie.

It's your name, here's the SA information:

X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=1.5 required=1.0
tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS  autolearn=no version=3.1.0
X-Spam-Level: *

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

[W0kk3L]

As far as i could find... no. Well, you can get the status externally by
using something like qstat, or by sending an rcon command to the server. The
easiest way is trough qstat, because you don't need a rcon password for it.
I believe this is the same way the clients do it for displaying the VAC
state in the favorites list.

-W0kk3L-

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From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly




Is there any other way than using status that will say if the server is
secure or not?

/Bjorn

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, W0kk3L wrote:


Sure,

I haven't included everything of the script, cause our script is mostly
SQL
based, so it wouldn't work on your servers.
But here are the most important parts. I've stripped it down so it would
work for one server. If you want it to work on more servers, just select
them first, and place the code below in that loop.

Here it comes:
--
#
# Script to check if the www.Crew-Nexus.net CS servers are secure. If
not,
restart them...
#

echo  - Scanning servers...
QSTAT_INFO=`qstat -timeout 5 -R -raw % -a2s ip:port|grep secure=1`;
if [ $QSTAT_INFO !=  ]; then
echo   Server is secure
else
echo   [$DATE] Server nex1cs is INSECURE...Rebooting this
server!
./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword say Server
is
VAC insecure... will restart now!
sleep 3
echo Sending RCON QUIT to nex1cs ip:port)
./kkrcon.pl -a ip -p port -t new rconpassword quit
fi
echo  - Done.
---

Just place this in a sh file, and give it executable rights. And finally
add
it to a cronjob on hourly basis.
As you can see it's very basic. But it does the trick :)

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: FiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure
regularly


 Would you be kind enough to post the script W0kk3L?

 FiRe

 - Original Message -
 Subject:
 Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly
 From:
 W0kk3L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:
 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:47:09 +0200
 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

 To:
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com


 Yep, the VAC servers are unreachable for quite a few times on daily
 basis.
 We have 20 VAC-based server running (CS and CS:S) and we've performed
 21
 VAC-insecure reboots yesterday on those server. But i have to say there
 was
 one major reboot of all 20 server at 0:00 hour.Most likely the VAC
 servers
 themself were being restarted. Usually we have about 4 or 5 VAC
 insecure
 reboots per day.

 What can you do against it? Well, nothing. It's not in our hands. It
 can
 be
 caused by VAC or by the connection from your server to VAC. In both
 ways,
 you can't prevent it. The only thing you can do about it is making the
 reboots automated, so the server are protected most of the time. On our
 servers i've created a script which reads the secure status by qstat.
 If
 that status is not 1 (e.g. 0 or not available), it will send a
 message
 to the server that it's going to reboot, and 10 secs later it sends an
 rcon
 quit. The runs every hour checking all VAC protected servers. Quite
 simple,
 but effective.

 -W0kk3L-

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:43 AM
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly


 Greetings

 Has anyone of you experienced the Problem of your Server going
 insecure
 regulary after a while, so you got to restart it, so have Vac running
 again?
 If yes, what can I do against it?

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Re: [hlds_linux] Vac turning off / Server going insecure regularly

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Another Interesting Fact: It seems to happen more often to HL1 Servers,
than HL2. I never see my HL2DM Server insecure.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[Andrew Forsberg]

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:07 +, DI wrote:
 Finally got hold of another admin to try it, he gets the same problem
 though, rollbacked server gives him the logs fine, the others he gets
 the time out error and no logs.

 I've also been in touch with another Windows server adminstrator whos
 having the same problem, he's got one server that he updated recently
 and he can't get logs from and the other three he hadn't updated at
 all and gets his logs just fine.

 Regards,
 DI

Are you specifying -ip as well as your -port and -rcon_port on the
command line? (or in your +exec whatever.cfg file?)

Recent releases of the source engine seem to require -ip, or it simply
fails to allow rcon access at all.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[DI]

No i don't appear to have that set, its specifically done in a startup
script which has a few generic options for the srcds install like port
and tickrate, then some mod specific things, like the start map etc
which are executed depending on what mod name is used when running the
script.

Rcon access itself isn't the problem though, i can connect to the
server with HLSW and use commands in its console, i just can't
retrieve logs at all to get steam id's and the chat to be able to
monitor everything on the server with one program, right now i'd have
to watch the actual server console for chat and ID's via SSH then
either use HLSW to admin it or connect directly to the server myself.

When i get a chance i'll try adding the -ip switch in to see if it
makes any difference though, thank you for suggesting it.

Also I've rolled back two further servers as well now, again the VAC
and log retrieval problems were fixed by doing this.I still have one
server running the latest update if anyone has any more suggestions
for me to try though.

Regards,
DI

On 3/26/06, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you specifying -ip as well as your -port and -rcon_port on the
 command line? (or in your +exec whatever.cfg file?)

 Recent releases of the source engine seem to require -ip, or it simply
 fails to allow rcon access at all.

 Cheers
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[DI]

Adding the -ip doesn't seem to have helped, i did notice whilst i was
fiddling around some more that CSS and DODS i can get logs from fine
even on the updated server install, its just HL2MP and the Hidden
source mod that i'm running that i'm unable to get logs with.

The CSS server had a more complete set of logfile commands so i tried
them in the HL2MP config to make sure but that hasn't helped either :(
And just on the offchance i completely removed mani from the HL2MP
install as well with yet again no change.

Anyone else running any other source mods and getting the same, or
anyone able to get the same with hl2mp as well, i guess since alot of
people will run css and dods this is maybe a bit less likely to have
been noticed on the whole.

Regards,

DI



On 3/26/06, DI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No i don't appear to have that set, its specifically done in a startup
 script which has a few generic options for the srcds install like port
 and tickrate, then some mod specific things, like the start map etc
 which are executed depending on what mod name is used when running the
 script.

 Rcon access itself isn't the problem though, i can connect to the
 server with HLSW and use commands in its console, i just can't
 retrieve logs at all to get steam id's and the chat to be able to
 monitor everything on the server with one program, right now i'd have
 to watch the actual server console for chat and ID's via SSH then
 either use HLSW to admin it or connect directly to the server myself.

 When i get a chance i'll try adding the -ip switch in to see if it
 makes any difference though, thank you for suggesting it.

 Also I've rolled back two further servers as well now, again the VAC
 and log retrieval problems were fixed by doing this.I still have one
 server running the latest update if anyone has any more suggestions
 for me to try though.

 Regards,
 DI

 On 3/26/06, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are you specifying -ip as well as your -port and -rcon_port on the
  command line? (or in your +exec whatever.cfg file?)
 
  Recent releases of the source engine seem to require -ip, or it simply
  fails to allow rcon access at all.
 
  Cheers
  Anders
 
 
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[Joshua Zellers]

I can't answer your last questions, but I can say I have not had a problem
connecting using Half-Life Server Watch to both of my servers. Maybe a
firewall/router is blocking its ability to send outgoing connections? I am
using 1.0.0.47 right now, the latest stable version I believe. There are
some times when I cannot retrieve the log. usually if I click again
afterwards it retrieves it the second try.



From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
update
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:38:20 +

Since the last update HLSW is unable to retrieve server logs, i can
log on and execute commands, just not get any log info, chat/STEAM ID
etc, so not very helpful at all. This is happening for both Linux and
Windows administrators as well, one windows administrator i've seen
post on the steam/hlsw forums felt it was a more recent steam update
that caused him problems though.

Also in a slight variation to the VAC problems my servers are able to
run hl2dm in secure mode but the same install cannot get secure mode
for the Hidden source mod at all.

There is a rollback posted on the steampowered forums for Linux
users, i've just tried this on one server install and it solved BOTH
problems.

Being unable to remotely administer my servers is a big problem and i
certainly don't like them running without VAC either :(

Anyone else on here having similar problems or know if this is already
being looked into?

If any further info is required then let me know.

Regards,

DI

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[DI]

Hi, i don't believe this to be the problem, I tested giving the server
full access through my firewall on all ports and also using no
firewall at all with no change before trying the rollback.I have also
used HLSW version 1.0.0.43 and then updated to 1.0.0.47 and still had
the same problem.

The servers themself hadn't been running for a few months and last
week i got round to setting them up again, ie updating them, it was
then i realised i couldn't get logs despite nothing else having
changed at my end or the servers.

Currently i have four servers active:

1x Hidden source with rollback applied - HLSW log retrieval and VAC
working fine
1x HL2DM server - HLSW log retireval fails, VAC works OK
2x Hidden Source with latest update - HLDS log retrieval fails and VAC
won't connect

I should also point out that i am running the current stable version
of mani mod (1.1.0.zh) on one updated hidden server, meta mod with BAC
and TKForgive on the other.
The HL2DM server is running mani mod betaM
The working hidden server is running mani mod 1.2betaM-RC6, before the
rollback it was running 1.2betaM-RC6 and before that just betaM and
still failing for both logs and VAC.

I can't be certain about VAC but i know the log retrieval didn't work
before i installed any of these extra mods anyway.

No amount of pressing the log retrieval buttons helps on the servers
without the rollback :

Regards,
DI

On 3/24/06, Joshua Zellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't answer your last questions, but I can say I have not had a problem
 connecting using Half-Life Server Watch to both of my servers. Maybe a
 firewall/router is blocking its ability to send outgoing connections? I am
 using 1.0.0.47 right now, the latest stable version I believe. There are
 some times when I cannot retrieve the log. usually if I click again
 afterwards it retrieves it the second try.


 From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
 update
 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:38:20 +
 
 Since the last update HLSW is unable to retrieve server logs, i can
 log on and execute commands, just not get any log info, chat/STEAM ID
 etc, so not very helpful at all. This is happening for both Linux and
 Windows administrators as well, one windows administrator i've seen
 post on the steam/hlsw forums felt it was a more recent steam update
 that caused him problems though.
 
 Also in a slight variation to the VAC problems my servers are able to
 run hl2dm in secure mode but the same install cannot get secure mode
 for the Hidden source mod at all.
 
 There is a rollback posted on the steampowered forums for Linux
 users, i've just tried this on one server install and it solved BOTH
 problems.
 
 Being unable to remotely administer my servers is a big problem and i
 certainly don't like them running without VAC either :(
 
 Anyone else on here having similar problems or know if this is already
 being looked into?
 
 If any further info is required then let me know.
 
 Regards,
 
 DI
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[Joshua Zellers]

That's weird. I really don't think HLSW does much more than connects to the
gameserver through a port (7130) I believe. If you want to email me an IP
and rcon password ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I can try to connect from my
computer and see what happens on my end if you'd like. You can add that
email to MSN Messenger as well if you want to IM instead of email.



From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
update
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:34:14 +

Hi, i don't believe this to be the problem, I tested giving the server
full access through my firewall on all ports and also using no
firewall at all with no change before trying the rollback.I have also
used HLSW version 1.0.0.43 and then updated to 1.0.0.47 and still had
the same problem.

The servers themself hadn't been running for a few months and last
week i got round to setting them up again, ie updating them, it was
then i realised i couldn't get logs despite nothing else having
changed at my end or the servers.

Currently i have four servers active:

1x Hidden source with rollback applied - HLSW log retrieval and VAC
working fine
1x HL2DM server - HLSW log retireval fails, VAC works OK
2x Hidden Source with latest update - HLDS log retrieval fails and VAC
won't connect

I should also point out that i am running the current stable version
of mani mod (1.1.0.zh) on one updated hidden server, meta mod with BAC
and TKForgive on the other.
The HL2DM server is running mani mod betaM
The working hidden server is running mani mod 1.2betaM-RC6, before the
rollback it was running 1.2betaM-RC6 and before that just betaM and
still failing for both logs and VAC.

I can't be certain about VAC but i know the log retrieval didn't work
before i installed any of these extra mods anyway.

No amount of pressing the log retrieval buttons helps on the servers
without the rollback :

Regards,
DI

On 3/24/06, Joshua Zellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't answer your last questions, but I can say I have not had a
problem
 connecting using Half-Life Server Watch to both of my servers. Maybe a
 firewall/router is blocking its ability to send outgoing connections? I
am
 using 1.0.0.47 right now, the latest stable version I believe. There are
 some times when I cannot retrieve the log. usually if I click again
 afterwards it retrieves it the second try.


 From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
 update
 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:38:20 +
 
 Since the last update HLSW is unable to retrieve server logs, i can
 log on and execute commands, just not get any log info, chat/STEAM ID
 etc, so not very helpful at all. This is happening for both Linux and
 Windows administrators as well, one windows administrator i've seen
 post on the steam/hlsw forums felt it was a more recent steam update
 that caused him problems though.
 
 Also in a slight variation to the VAC problems my servers are able to
 run hl2dm in secure mode but the same install cannot get secure mode
 for the Hidden source mod at all.
 
 There is a rollback posted on the steampowered forums for Linux
 users, i've just tried this on one server install and it solved BOTH
 problems.
 
 Being unable to remotely administer my servers is a big problem and i
 certainly don't like them running without VAC either :(
 
 Anyone else on here having similar problems or know if this is already
 being looked into?
 
 If any further info is required then let me know.
 
 Regards,
 
 DI
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[DI]

Sorry, i'm not in the habit of handing out my passwords to strangers
i'm afraid :p

I'll see what i can do about getting another admin to try though, so
far it has just been me trying with HLSW.

I checked the VAC thing on one updated server as well, HL2MP/CSS/DODS
are all secure but with Hidden Source on the same install i get

version   : 1.0.1.0/7 2677 insecure (secure mode enabled, connected to Steam3)

yet as i said with the rollback all the mods on the server are secured fine.

Both are strange problems :(

Cheers,

DI

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[Joshua Zellers]

Oh, I meant just make a dummy password. But I understand you completely,
so not to worry :)
Yeah, as you said, I would suggest getting another admin to try it out on
their end and compare what happens. That way you could narrow down the
problem with HLSW.

Very strange problems with your VAC. I really don't know much about Hidden
Source, so I'm afraid I can't help on that matter :( Maybe somebody else who
is more experienced with it can though.



From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
update
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:02:49 +

Sorry, i'm not in the habit of handing out my passwords to strangers
i'm afraid :p

I'll see what i can do about getting another admin to try though, so
far it has just been me trying with HLSW.

I checked the VAC thing on one updated server as well, HL2MP/CSS/DODS
are all secure but with Hidden Source on the same install i get

version   : 1.0.1.0/7 2677 insecure (secure mode enabled, connected to
Steam3)

yet as i said with the rollback all the mods on the server are secured
fine.

Both are strange problems :(

Cheers,

DI

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March update

[DI]

Finally got hold of another admin to try it, he gets the same problem
though, rollbacked server gives him the logs fine, the others he gets
the time out error and no logs.

I've also been in touch with another Windows server adminstrator whos
having the same problem, he's got one server that he updated recently
and he can't get logs from and the other three he hadn't updated at
all and gets his logs just fine.

Regards,
DI


On 3/24/06, Joshua Zellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, I meant just make a dummy password. But I understand you completely,
 so not to worry :)
 Yeah, as you said, I would suggest getting another admin to try it out on
 their end and compare what happens. That way you could narrow down the
 problem with HLSW.

 Very strange problems with your VAC. I really don't know much about Hidden
 Source, so I'm afraid I can't help on that matter :( Maybe somebody else who
 is more experienced with it can though.


 From: DI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and log retrieval problems since 08/09 March
 update
 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:02:49 +
 
 Sorry, i'm not in the habit of handing out my passwords to strangers
 i'm afraid :p
 
 I'll see what i can do about getting another admin to try though, so
 far it has just been me trying with HLSW.
 
 I checked the VAC thing on one updated server as well, HL2MP/CSS/DODS
 are all secure but with Hidden Source on the same install i get
 
 version   : 1.0.1.0/7 2677 insecure (secure mode enabled, connected to
 Steam3)
 
 yet as i said with the rollback all the mods on the server are secured
 fine.
 
 Both are strange problems :(
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] vac going into insecure mode, please fix.

[Ben Kennish]

Same problem for me.  Tis very silly tbh.  Please add to your todo list
Valve.

Ben

Scott Tuttle wrote:

I only have 12 servers running right now but I also have this problem
randomly.  It is very annoying :)


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Re: [hlds_linux] vac going into insecure mode, please fix.

[W0kk3L]

I agree. We are having the same difficulties with this problem. We are
running
15 CS servers, which are combined 90% filled most of the time. It's easy
to detect if one of the servers is insecure, just by listening to the
cheater
reports on irc or on our website. They are kinda swarming the servers at
that
time.

Please make this a check when changing map, for servers running secure or
make it a cvar.

- Original Message -
From: John Saucier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] vac going into insecure mode, please fix.



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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Everyday it seems I have to restart my server because its in insecure
mode.
I'd like to see this issue resolved. I understand that sometimes the
server
is unable to contact the auth server. This could obviously be as simple as
a
timeout. That's fine.

But why not make it so that the server doesn't need to be restarted to be
put in secure mode? Why not have the server contact the auth servers on
mapchange as well? That way if the server is in insecure mode it could
contact the server and be put back into secure mode. And/or why not just
have the server check that its in secure mode every 5 minutes or give us a
cvar to allow us to check the auth server status every x amount of time if
the server is in insecure mode?

I know that vac runs as a seperate process, so why is it not possible to
have it just stop the process and start it again if it does not connect to
the auth server and reconnect every 60 seconds until its been
authenticated
into secure mode.

I personally don't think that anti-cheat has been that effective from
anyone
but vac has slowed down the cheaters quite a bit and it seems like when
our
server is put into insecure mode we begin to see them login like its some
kind of invite.

The process for getting vac back on right now its restart the server. This
is completely ridiculous. I run a 32 player server that is nearly full all
the time. And sometimes it will just randomly go into insecure mode. That
means I have to restart the server. The other day I had to restart it
three
times to get vac back on. There needs to be a better way.

Thanks
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Re: [hlds_linux] vac going into insecure mode, please fix.

[Scott Tuttle]

I only have 12 servers running right now but I also have this problem
randomly.  It is very annoying :)

W0kk3L wrote:


I agree. We are having the same difficulties with this problem. We are
running
15 CS servers, which are combined 90% filled most of the time. It's easy
to detect if one of the servers is insecure, just by listening to the
cheater
reports on irc or on our website. They are kinda swarming the servers at
that
time.

Please make this a check when changing map, for servers running secure or
make it a cvar.

- Original Message -
From: John Saucier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] vac going into insecure mode, please fix.



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Everyday it seems I have to restart my server because its in insecure
mode.
I'd like to see this issue resolved. I understand that sometimes the
server
is unable to contact the auth server. This could obviously be as
simple as
a
timeout. That's fine.

But why not make it so that the server doesn't need to be restarted
to be
put in secure mode? Why not have the server contact the auth servers on
mapchange as well? That way if the server is in insecure mode it could
contact the server and be put back into secure mode. And/or why not just
have the server check that its in secure mode every 5 minutes or give
us a
cvar to allow us to check the auth server status every x amount of
time if
the server is in insecure mode?

I know that vac runs as a seperate process, so why is it not possible to
have it just stop the process and start it again if it does not
connect to
the auth server and reconnect every 60 seconds until its been
authenticated
into secure mode.

I personally don't think that anti-cheat has been that effective from
anyone
but vac has slowed down the cheaters quite a bit and it seems like when
our
server is put into insecure mode we begin to see them login like its
some
kind of invite.

The process for getting vac back on right now its restart the server.
This
is completely ridiculous. I run a 32 player server that is nearly
full all
the time. And sometimes it will just randomly go into insecure mode.
That
means I have to restart the server. The other day I had to restart it
three
times to get vac back on. There needs to be a better way.

Thanks
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC disabled

[Ben Kennish]

Alfred Reynolds wrote:

We are working on fixing this. Your servers will automatically reconnect
once the backend is functional again, no action on your part is needed.

- Alfred



Just to let you know, action WAS needed on my part.  I just checked the
server and it wasn't VAC secured.  I then restarted it and it was.

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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC disabled

[Joachim Sehlstedt]

Hi!

Same thing with all of our servers, we had to restart them to get VAC to
reconnect.

greetings
Joachim Sehlstedt

Ben Kennish wrote:


Alfred Reynolds wrote:


We are working on fixing this. Your servers will automatically reconnect
once the backend is functional again, no action on your part is needed.

- Alfred



Just to let you know, action WAS needed on my part.  I just checked the
server and it wasn't VAC secured.  I then restarted it and it was.

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