Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
(HLDS, _not_ SOURCE) I have a problem with one of my newest linux machines. (I do not know if it is a problem) I've tried all pingboosts from 1-3, and sys_ticrate from 2000 to 1. rcon stats reports an FPS of ~240-250 no matter what settings I'm using. I have other servers running 999 FPS with no problem at all. stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 6.00 0.00 0.00 2 0 245.52 0 The kernel I'm using is 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP, on a DELL 6850 (Quad intel dualcore 12GB RAM) -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] På vegne av Gary Stanley Sendt: 24. februar 2009 16:31 Til: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Emne: Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help At 03:23 AM 2/24/2009, Kveri wrote: guys I don't see any point running a server with pingboost (1,2 or 3) with 1000Hz kernel, why? It's already boosted, so why using pingboost? Kveri Different methods to service the timers that drive it. 1 uses an alarm() call, 2 uses a select() and 3 uses a method that processes each one as they come in. The engine runs fast with a pingboost of 3 and a ticrate over 1000 due to the way the engine divides/multiplies the ticrate to step frame time. You really don't need highres timers on a machine anyways, because when hrtimers are enabled in the kernel the error rate is increased and you see significant jitter doing sleeps.. the long term solution is to write a sleep function that uses the rdtsc of the cpu and then you get ultra accurate sleeps (you'll need a reference clock though, like open /dev/hpet or use ntpd :-) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Maybe its HZ limit that causing this. /Bjorn On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Steffen Tronstad wrote: (HLDS, _not_ SOURCE) I have a problem with one of my newest linux machines. (I do not know if it is a problem) I've tried all pingboosts from 1-3, and sys_ticrate from 2000 to 1. rcon stats reports an FPS of ~240-250 no matter what settings I'm using. I have other servers running 999 FPS with no problem at all. stats CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 6.00 0.00 0.00 2 0 245.52 0 The kernel I'm using is 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP, on a DELL 6850 (Quad intel dualcore 12GB RAM) -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] På vegne av Gary Stanley Sendt: 24. februar 2009 16:31 Til: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Emne: Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help At 03:23 AM 2/24/2009, Kveri wrote: guys I don't see any point running a server with pingboost (1,2 or 3) with 1000Hz kernel, why? It's already boosted, so why using pingboost? Kveri Different methods to service the timers that drive it. 1 uses an alarm() call, 2 uses a select() and 3 uses a method that processes each one as they come in. The engine runs fast with a pingboost of 3 and a ticrate over 1000 due to the way the engine divides/multiplies the ticrate to step frame time. You really don't need highres timers on a machine anyways, because when hrtimers are enabled in the kernel the error rate is increased and you see significant jitter doing sleeps.. the long term solution is to write a sleep function that uses the rdtsc of the cpu and then you get ultra accurate sleeps (you'll need a reference clock though, like open /dev/hpet or use ntpd :-) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
guys I don't see any point running a server with pingboost (1,2 or 3) with 1000Hz kernel, why? It's already boosted, so why using pingboost? Kveri Pierre Egerland wrote: I don´t think so. Try ticrate 1000 and then ticrate 1 you will see that the server are even better runs. You can test it with: http://fpsmeter.fragaholics.de/ And why does the game runs faster at pingboost 3 with 3500 ticrate... because the limit are 1000?? omg 2009/2/18 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Ticrate 1? The maximum is 1000... Even if it makes a difference in rcon stats, it's just reporting false infos. 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com Hi, your ticrate are to low i think.. i use with pingboost 2 the ticrate 1. You can also use pingboost 3 with ticrate 2500 but not higher. Do you use hires-timer? What OS and kernel do you use? Greez 2009/2/18 Christopher Szabo sza...@hotmail.com Hello! Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Working good: sv_maxupdaterate 70 sv_minupdaterate 13 sv_maxrate 2 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 2000 Not working (choke): sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_minupdaterate 30 sv_maxrate 25000 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 1 _ Var sommaren för kort? Här hittar du solen! http://resor.se.msn.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
At 03:23 AM 2/24/2009, Kveri wrote: guys I don't see any point running a server with pingboost (1,2 or 3) with 1000Hz kernel, why? It's already boosted, so why using pingboost? Kveri Different methods to service the timers that drive it. 1 uses an alarm() call, 2 uses a select() and 3 uses a method that processes each one as they come in. The engine runs fast with a pingboost of 3 and a ticrate over 1000 due to the way the engine divides/multiplies the ticrate to step frame time. You really don't need highres timers on a machine anyways, because when hrtimers are enabled in the kernel the error rate is increased and you see significant jitter doing sleeps.. the long term solution is to write a sleep function that uses the rdtsc of the cpu and then you get ultra accurate sleeps (you'll need a reference clock though, like open /dev/hpet or use ntpd :-) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
At 03:23 AM 2/24/2009, Kveri wrote: guys I don't see any point running a server with pingboost (1,2 or 3) with 1000Hz kernel, why? It's already boosted, so why using pingboost? Kveri Different methods to service the timers that drive it. 1 uses an alarm() call, 2 uses a select() and 3 uses a method that processes each one as they come in. The engine runs fast with a pingboost of 3 and a ticrate over 1000 due to the way the engine divides/multiplies the ticrate to step frame time. You really don't need highres timers on a machine anyways, because when hrtimers are enabled in the kernel the error rate is increased and you see significant jitter doing sleeps.. the long term solution is to write a sleep function that uses the rdtsc of the cpu and then you get ultra accurate sleeps (you'll need a reference clock though, like open /dev/hpet or use ntpd :-) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Hi, your ticrate are to low i think.. i use with pingboost 2 the ticrate 1. You can also use pingboost 3 with ticrate 2500 but not higher. Do you use hires-timer? What OS and kernel do you use? Greez 2009/2/18 Christopher Szabo sza...@hotmail.com Hello! Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Working good: sv_maxupdaterate 70 sv_minupdaterate 13 sv_maxrate 2 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 2000 Not working (choke): sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_minupdaterate 30 sv_maxrate 25000 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 1 _ Var sommaren för kort? Här hittar du solen! http://resor.se.msn.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Ticrate 1? The maximum is 1000... Even if it makes a difference in rcon stats, it's just reporting false infos. 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com Hi, your ticrate are to low i think.. i use with pingboost 2 the ticrate 1. You can also use pingboost 3 with ticrate 2500 but not higher. Do you use hires-timer? What OS and kernel do you use? Greez 2009/2/18 Christopher Szabo sza...@hotmail.com Hello! Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Working good: sv_maxupdaterate 70 sv_minupdaterate 13 sv_maxrate 2 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 2000 Not working (choke): sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_minupdaterate 30 sv_maxrate 25000 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 1 _ Var sommaren för kort? Här hittar du solen! http://resor.se.msn.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
How would you run a ticrate 3500 or 1 server when it is a 1000 Hz server? And the link you posted use rcon stats. Maybe you should also read this: http://www.gsptruth.com/forum/game-server-discussions/125-1000-fps-fairy-tale.html 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com I don´t think so. Try ticrate 1000 and then ticrate 1 you will see that the server are even better runs. You can test it with: http://fpsmeter.fragaholics.de/ And why does the game runs faster at pingboost 3 with 3500 ticrate... because the limit are 1000?? omg 2009/2/18 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Ticrate 1? The maximum is 1000... Even if it makes a difference in rcon stats, it's just reporting false infos. 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com Hi, your ticrate are to low i think.. i use with pingboost 2 the ticrate 1. You can also use pingboost 3 with ticrate 2500 but not higher. Do you use hires-timer? What OS and kernel do you use? Greez 2009/2/18 Christopher Szabo sza...@hotmail.com Hello! Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Working good: sv_maxupdaterate 70 sv_minupdaterate 13 sv_maxrate 2 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 2000 Not working (choke): sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_minupdaterate 30 sv_maxrate 25000 sv_maxspeed 900 sv_minrate 1 _ Var sommaren för kort? Här hittar du solen! http://resor.se.msn.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Thats only at pingboost 3.. the ingame clock go stupidly at pingboost 3 with over tickrate 2500.. We´ve tested it. If you use pingboost 2 and tickrate 1 then the ingame clock normal. And the Gameserver run smoother with pingboost 3 tic 2500 or pingboost 2 and tic 1. 2009/2/18 Steffen Tronstad s...@nextgentel.com That would make the ingame clock go stupidly fast. Mp_c4timer 35 will actually be 24 or something. And roundtime 3 min = 2,5 min. sys_ticrate 2000 seems to be the limit before the ingame clock goes wild. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Ok thats easy.. for tickrate 1000 servers you should not use a maxrate less than 5 (on source, no idea whats it on goldsrc). Choke means not enough bandwidth to transmit all packets. And maxrate (server) / rate (client) limits this bandwidth virtually. So you just test it by connecting to the server, watching your choke in the net_graph and then raising the maxrate/rate step by step till the choke is gone (choke = 5 is fine). anyway you should raise your minrate a bit. alex 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com: Thats only at pingboost 3.. the ingame clock go stupidly at pingboost 3 with over tickrate 2500.. We´ve tested it. If you use pingboost 2 and tickrate 1 then the ingame clock normal. And the Gameserver run smoother with pingboost 3 tic 2500 or pingboost 2 and tic 1. 2009/2/18 Steffen Tronstad s...@nextgentel.com That would make the ingame clock go stupidly fast. Mp_c4timer 35 will actually be 24 or something. And roundtime 3 min = 2,5 min. sys_ticrate 2000 seems to be the limit before the ingame clock goes wild. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/139/95683313js3.png 2009/2/18 ServerAlex servera...@gmail.com Ok thats easy.. for tickrate 1000 servers you should not use a maxrate less than 5 (on source, no idea whats it on goldsrc). Choke means not enough bandwidth to transmit all packets. And maxrate (server) / rate (client) limits this bandwidth virtually. So you just test it by connecting to the server, watching your choke in the net_graph and then raising the maxrate/rate step by step till the choke is gone (choke = 5 is fine). anyway you should raise your minrate a bit. alex 2009/2/18 Pierre Egerland nappel4l...@googlemail.com: Thats only at pingboost 3.. the ingame clock go stupidly at pingboost 3 with over tickrate 2500.. We´ve tested it. If you use pingboost 2 and tickrate 1 then the ingame clock normal. And the Gameserver run smoother with pingboost 3 tic 2500 or pingboost 2 and tic 1. 2009/2/18 Steffen Tronstad s...@nextgentel.com That would make the ingame clock go stupidly fast. Mp_c4timer 35 will actually be 24 or something. And roundtime 3 min = 2,5 min. sys_ticrate 2000 seems to be the limit before the ingame clock goes wild. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos -TOS doesn't do anything anymore, not too many routers examine the type of service bit. A pingboost of 2 uses select() based boosting, which on older linux kernels uses the 'jiffies' routine. I wouldn't expect it to be that accurate. Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Serverside choke is also caused by scheduler latency. Running high slot counts increase the pressure on the scheduler, so you will see a little loss while it's waiting to process interframe data. You should try adjusting the thread priority to SCHED_RR with a thread time of 50 or so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate, pingboost, rates - need help
Problem #1 I need some information about HLDS Counter-Strike 1.6 servers. I'm not certain what i should use in the start-command regarding the ticrate, pingboost and what is tos? I'm running two publicservers on each dedicated server. Both servers has 1000Hz in kernel. Machine #1 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_inferno +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map fy_simpsons +maxplayers 24 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos -TOS doesn't do anything anymore, not too many routers examine the type of service bit. A pingboost of 2 uses select() based boosting, which on older linux kernels uses the 'jiffies' routine. I wouldn't expect it to be that accurate. Machine #2 Dell Power Edge R300 Dell Intel X5000 Chipset Quadcore Intel Xeon X5470 3.33Ghz 1333Mhz FSB Hynix 2x2GB Dual Rank-RAM 2x Seagate 73GB SAS 15K rpm (Raid-1) Broadcom Netxtreme II ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos ./hlds_run -game cstrike +ip ** +map de_aztec +maxplayers 32 +sys_ticrate 1000 -zone 8192 -pingboost 2 -tos Problem #2 On the same servers as i mentioned above, i have some rate problems too. I get choke on all the servers, but i don't know why.. The machines are good, and the connection is very good (co-location in Sweden, Pionen - the newest datacenter i Sweden, very high tech). Anyhow, why cant i use high rates? And what rates should i use for the publicservers? Serverside choke is also caused by scheduler latency. Running high slot counts increase the pressure on the scheduler, so you will see a little loss while it's waiting to process interframe data. You should try adjusting the thread priority to SCHED_RR with a thread time of 50 or so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate
Well honestly alias wont get any where due to the invention of the revert command and well if they really want to change the tickrate then they would just look every where... doesn't take much to delete that really. Azhibberd -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Or you could just try doing +alias sys_tickrate blah in the command line (will that work?) On 12/18/06, Xavier Kerestesy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Customers can change the server.cfg so this really is void. But if you put it in the autoexec.cfg file, it might just work. Most customers don't think to make changes there. I personally haven't tested this, but it might work. The only other way is the make the file read only. Xavier Kevin Ottalini wrote: Just have the server.cfg alias the sys_ticrate: alias sys_ticrate echo WARNING: --- changing the ticrate is not allowed on this server - Original Message - From: Amit Gandelman To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate I found this on steam forums and nobody helped this guy: Is there a way to force the settings specified in the command line such as the +sys_ticrate and not allow changes to these settings via the config file or RCON? Example, if a manager of a server wanted to allow 250FPS, but not allow this to be increased on the client side, how would a person go about doing this? Thanks in advance. Anyone got an answer for this? Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux --TAW Signature-- Any problems or enquiries feel free to contact me LTC_Azhibberd [HL DO] [Server Staff] Aaron T Hibberd Contact info: Xfire: Azhibberd Msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 07890490199 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate
http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=newsarchive=yesid=859cc=-- Removed revert command, as it was being used to change restricted cvars On 19/12/06, Aaron T Hibberd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well honestly alias wont get any where due to the invention of the revert command and well if they really want to change the tickrate then they would just look every where... doesn't take much to delete that really. Azhibberd ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate
I found this on steam forums and nobody helped this guy: Is there a way to force the settings specified in the command line such as the +sys_ticrate and not allow changes to these settings via the config file or RCON? Example, if a manager of a server wanted to allow 250FPS, but not allow this to be increased on the client side, how would a person go about doing this? Thanks in advance. Anyone got an answer for this? Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:54 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OK, getting frustrated now! Hello, you can try and install hotsanic (http://hotsanic.sourceforge.net/). It will give you a better overview what really happens on your system. Install at least the modules traffic, system and netstat. Also follow this tutorial for a good kernel: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486424 Most important stuff is the 1000 Hz patch and the scheduler settings. After you have a well configured kernel, don't use taskset or anything to force the processes to a specific CPU, the scheduler will do for you very well. Best regards Ronny - Original Message - From: David Syers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] OK, getting frustrated now! -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can someone explain the following, or if it is just shite coding on valves part: * I run a server that has a dual core pentium 3.4GHz processor and runs 2 x 100 tick 18 man CSS servers. * It has the kernel compiled at 1000 * My startup line has +fps_max 600 (will largely hold 333fps) I can look at the server cpu usage, memory usage and CSS stats all in real time. Now why the hell does a server drop from 333fps to as low as 10fps? What causes this? The CPU usage gets no higher than 60% (one core for the process - other is at 1-5% if the other server is empty), but the drops can happen at 60% or anywhere below, so the CPU usage seems to have no bearing on this. The memory usage does not change - I have memory that is not currently in use, so this seems not to be a factor either. I have no swap being used, the server is regularly rebooted to clear any memory that is not released (although as mentioned I have spare) and all servers except literally the ones to run the server have been stopped (but as mentioned CPU usage is never over 60%, and system use is negligable) I am totally confused as to why the fps will not stay above 100 when the hardware is clearly not struggling!! Would it be better to force is to use the 486 process instead of the 686?? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate
Just have the server.cfg alias the sys_ticrate: alias sys_ticrate echo WARNING: --- changing the ticrate is not allowed on this server - Original Message - From: Amit Gandelman To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate I found this on steam forums and nobody helped this guy: Is there a way to force the settings specified in the command line such as the +sys_ticrate and not allow changes to these settings via the config file or RCON? Example, if a manager of a server wanted to allow 250FPS, but not allow this to be increased on the client side, how would a person go about doing this? Thanks in advance. Anyone got an answer for this? Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate
Customers can change the server.cfg so this really is void. But if you put it in the autoexec.cfg file, it might just work. Most customers don't think to make changes there. I personally haven't tested this, but it might work. The only other way is the make the file read only. Xavier Kevin Ottalini wrote: Just have the server.cfg alias the sys_ticrate: alias sys_ticrate echo WARNING: --- changing the ticrate is not allowed on this server - Original Message - From: Amit Gandelman To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate I found this on steam forums and nobody helped this guy: Is there a way to force the settings specified in the command line such as the +sys_ticrate and not allow changes to these settings via the config file or RCON? Example, if a manager of a server wanted to allow 250FPS, but not allow this to be increased on the client side, how would a person go about doing this? Thanks in advance. Anyone got an answer for this? Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] ticrate
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Or you could just try doing +alias sys_tickrate blah in the command line (will that work?) On 12/18/06, Xavier Kerestesy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Customers can change the server.cfg so this really is void. But if you put it in the autoexec.cfg file, it might just work. Most customers don't think to make changes there. I personally haven't tested this, but it might work. The only other way is the make the file read only. Xavier Kevin Ottalini wrote: Just have the server.cfg alias the sys_ticrate: alias sys_ticrate echo WARNING: --- changing the ticrate is not allowed on this server - Original Message - From: Amit Gandelman To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate I found this on steam forums and nobody helped this guy: Is there a way to force the settings specified in the command line such as the +sys_ticrate and not allow changes to these settings via the config file or RCON? Example, if a manager of a server wanted to allow 250FPS, but not allow this to be increased on the client side, how would a person go about doing this? Thanks in advance. Anyone got an answer for this? Thanks. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate
Anyone know if that works? OR maybe you have your own way of locking the sys_ticrate command for hl1mods? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ales Koprivnikar Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:06 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] tickrate -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i am not too sure that specifying the ticrate in the command line locks it... Try this :) +sys_ticrate 200 +alias sys_ticrate wait best regards Ales -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100
The Kernel we are using is precompiled and runnning on x86. We found out, that it runs on 100 Hz. We are using the hlds_amd binary. If nobody is connected to the server, the frames are constant about 100 (+/- 0.1 frame). Today we played on it with 10 people and we typed rcon stats a few times to see how its working and the frames ranged between 50 and ~380 Best regards, David Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:48:36 +0200 Von: Janosch Fock [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Zimmermann Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:33 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100 hi *, Hi! After getting a new Linux Root running Debian on Kernel 2.6.17.7 #2 SMP, we copy our old Counterstrike 1.6 Server from the old root. ... AMD X2 3800+ ... What architectures are Debian and your kernel running with, x86 or amd64? Did you compile it your own or do you use precompiled one? Does it run with 1000 Hz? And which binary are you using, hlds_amd, hlds_i686, or hlds_amd64? Changing the sys_ticrate doesn't help (the server-sided fps just go lower then 100, if the ticrate is set lower then 100). The stats show fps not higher then 100, even when the ticrate is set to 1. The system is quit good, so it's no hardware problem. Try setting fps_max higher. Regards, David Best regards, Janosch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*. Nur noch kurze Zeit! Feel free mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100
Thry the new 2.6.18_rc3 (rc 2 patched to 3) kernel with 1000hz, Preempt off (server setting), Deadline I/O Scheduler, HPET Timer Support and give that a try... the 2.6.18 series kernel did wonders for SRCDS.. (I know your dealing with hlds) --kennycom - Original Message - From: David Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100 The Kernel we are using is precompiled and runnning on x86. We found out, that it runs on 100 Hz. We are using the hlds_amd binary. If nobody is connected to the server, the frames are constant about 100 (+/- 0.1 frame). Today we played on it with 10 people and we typed rcon stats a few times to see how its working and the frames ranged between 50 and ~380 Best regards, David Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:48:36 +0200 Von: Janosch Fock [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: RE: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Zimmermann Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:33 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] ticrate 100 hi *, Hi! After getting a new Linux Root running Debian on Kernel 2.6.17.7 #2 SMP, we copy our old Counterstrike 1.6 Server from the old root. ... AMD X2 3800+ ... What architectures are Debian and your kernel running with, x86 or amd64? Did you compile it your own or do you use precompiled one? Does it run with 1000 Hz? And which binary are you using, hlds_amd, hlds_i686, or hlds_amd64? Changing the sys_ticrate doesn't help (the server-sided fps just go lower then 100, if the ticrate is set lower then 100). The stats show fps not higher then 100, even when the ticrate is set to 1. The system is quit good, so it's no hardware problem. Try setting fps_max higher. Regards, David Best regards, Janosch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*. Nur noch kurze Zeit! Feel free mit GMX DSL: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
