[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Harry van der Wolf
The exact same thing happens also on OSX. I just removed the line from the
CMakeLists.txt file. I will try tonight.
I had not reported it yet as I was working on 2 Hugin things and 2 other
things.

Harry

2009/9/22 Kornel Benko kornel.be...@berlin.de

 Am Tuesday 22 September 2009 schrieb Yuval Levy:
 
  The CMake error, at line 33 of src/CMakeLists.txt says:
  set_target_properties called with incorrect number of arguments

 I only see this line in enblend's cmake.

 It looks like OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS were not defined. Could you please check
 CMakeCache.txt for a similar variable (mybe only difference in case)

 Anyway it sholud read like:
  if(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS)
set_target_properties(${_cmd} PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS ${OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS})
message(STATUS Adding PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS to ${_cmd})
  endif(Boost_FOUND)

 The output of running cmake should give you an indication of the value of
 OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS

 And it seems to be _my_ doing.

  this is unrelated to Christoph's recent changes (rev. 524+) - it happens
  already in rev. 523.

  Yuv

 Could you please try?

Kornel
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Tuesday 22 September 2009 schrieb Harry van der Wolf:
 The exact same thing happens also on OSX. I just removed the line from the
 CMakeLists.txt file. I will try tonight.
 I had not reported it yet as I was working on 2 Hugin things and 2 other
 things.
 
 Harry

Harry, I already commited. Clearly my error.

Kornel

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Eduardo Perez Esteban
Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
properly, before filling in a bug report...

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Tduell tdu...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Hullo Yuv,

 On Sep 21, 12:10 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
  Panorama stitching and more. A powerful software package for creation
  and processing of panoramic images.
 
  hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 (release candidate 1) tarball is available here:
 
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin-2009.2_beta/hugin-..
 .
 
  This is a release candidate and may be declared final in the coming days.

 I have successfully built RC1 and done some limited testing on Fedora
 11 x86_64, and thus far all seems OK.
 Hugin 'about' reports svn 4461.
 I have also successfully built (using mock) a fedora 11 i586 version.
 I will pass these binary packages to Bruno so he can put them on his
 server for all to access. The packages are...
 hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
 hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
 hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm
 hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm

 Cheers,
 Terry


 


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 09:31 +0200, Eduardo Perez Esteban wrote:

Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
properly, before filling in a bug report...

What version of libpano13 do you have?  The 2.9.14 'stable' release 
is fine, but the two 2.9.15_beta releases have had problems.

If you want to use a current libpano13, at the moment you need to 
fetch the SVN trunk.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Tuesday 22 September 2009 schrieb Eduardo Perez Esteban:
 Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
 trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
 execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
 properly, before filling in a bug report...
 
 Thanks.
 

This is, what I have done 5 minutes ago:
cd /usr/src/hugin/hugin
svn up
cd /usr/BUILD/BuildHugin
cmake /usr/src/hugin/hugin -DENABLE_LAPACK=YES -DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=ON
make -j3 package
sudo rpm --nodeps --force -U /usr/BUILD/BuildHugin/hugin-2009.3.0-Linux.rpm

This hugin does not crash here. OpenSuSE 10.3, 64bit.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Carl von Einem

 Carl von Einem wrote:
 
 Would a few people please give me some examples of how they would like 
 to use masking within Hugin?
 Today I often enough have to edit masks of images that are already
 loaded in a hugin project. To see the difference I need to newly load
 the whole project. I'd prefer a button in the preview window that allows
 to just reload all images (or maybe also just one).

Maybe it's not such a good idea to add yet another button to the preview
window.
As a possible interface I'd suggest a pop-up window just like the CP
list (instead of F3 maybe option+F3), only with a list of loaded images.
When that window is opened it compares the time stamp of the actual file
on disk with the time stamp of the originally loaded version. One
'update' button to reload the marked image file, also one 'update all
modified files' button would be great.
I have a screenshot from a similar window that is used in QuarkXPress.
http://einem.net/panotools/hugin/

Should I submit a feature request?

Carl

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[hugin-ptx] hugin https access to svn broken?

2009-09-22 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi,

I'm already trying for over 24 hours to sync the trunk to my local
repository (and then upload the cpclean XCode changes) but I don't get
access.

I try: svn co https://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hugin/hugin/trunkhugin;
but to no avail.

anyone else having the same problems or being succesful?

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin https access to svn broken?

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan Peter

Hi Harry

Harry van der Wolf wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm already trying for over 24 hours to sync the trunk to my local
  repository (and then upload the cpclean XCode changes) but I don't get
  access.

it works from here (switzerland).
What happens if you point your web browser to 
https://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hugin/hugin/trunk/ ?
you should either see a directory containing the hugin files or and 
error message that may shed some light on your svn co troubles.

With kind regards

Stefan Peter


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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Carl von Einem wrote:
 Carl von Einem wrote:

 Would a few people please give me some examples of how they would like 
 to use masking within Hugin?
 Today I often enough have to edit masks of images that are already
 loaded in a hugin project. To see the difference I need to newly load
 the whole project. I'd prefer a button in the preview window that allows
 to just reload all images (or maybe also just one).
 
 Maybe it's not such a good idea to add yet another button to the preview
 window.
 As a possible interface I'd suggest a pop-up window just like the CP
 list (instead of F3 maybe option+F3), only with a list of loaded images.

I think there are two separate issues here: one is editing the mask and 
the other is updating the images in the project to make the edits visible.

Abstracting for a moment if a pop-up or an extra-tab (I prefer the 
latter), the current status of the masking [editor] is a list of 
(loaded) images, exactly like the preview - it actually borrowed its 
user interface, which should make it convenient e.g. to see where the 
selected mask lands on an underneath picture by activating / 
deactivating pictures in the tabs.


 When that window is opened it compares the time stamp of the actual file
 on disk with the time stamp of the originally loaded version. One
 'update' button to reload the marked image file, also one 'update all
 modified files' button would be great.
 I have a screenshot from a similar window that is used in QuarkXPress.
 http://einem.net/panotools/hugin/

If I understand the mockup correctly, we don't really need it (sorry). 
An appropriate update mechanism can and should be automated.

Currently, opening a project is a relatively fast operation when the 
preview window is closed. The cost of this operation is that when I 
click on the preview button for the first time, it loads each individual 
image (look at the status bar); and this takes a lot of time (on my 
dyno-book 1.6GHz 2GB RAM 5400RPM HDD it took long enough to load 23 
images that I almost finished this paragraph in the meantime).

The logic does not require human intervention, just a smarter image 
cache that
a) load the images automatically in the background (assuming there is 
enough image cache memory. if it reaches the limit, it should test if 
more memory is available in the system and suggest to the user to change 
the preferences setting - currently the default is 75MB).
b) is triggered by actions, such as editing a mask, to reload the image 
automatically - no human intervention here
c) checks in the background for changes by external program (i.e. the 
timestamp check you suggest) and reloads if necessary (or warns if the 
image is no longer available).

I think the only way to implement (c) is with a timer - I am not aware 
of the possibility to watch a file for changes. But checking 
timestamps should not be too time consuming, so doing it once a minute 
or so should be enough.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Kornel Benko wrote:
 It looks like OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS were not defined. Could you please check
 CMakeCache.txt for a similar variable (mybe only difference in case)

makes sense - I'm on MSVC EE and it looks like Microsoft wants to cap 
the wings of developers for its plattform / extract a tax from them - 
OpenMP is not supported in MSVC EE, just in the higher up, paying editions.


 Anyway it sholud read like:
   if(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS)
 set_target_properties(${_cmd} PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS ${OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS})
 message(STATUS Adding PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS to ${_cmd})
   endif(Boost_FOUND)
 
 The output of running cmake should give you an indication of the value of 
 OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS
 
 Could you please try?

I'm not on Windows at the moment. Will try when I have access and time 
later in the day.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: hugin https access to svn broken?

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Harry van der Wolf wrote:
 I try: svn co 
 https://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hugin/hugin/trunkhugin;

looks like whitespace is missing - .../trunk hugin instead of 
.../trunkhugin

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 08:14 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
c) checks in the background for changes by external program (i.e. the
timestamp check you suggest) and reloads if necessary (or warns if the
image is no longer available).

I think the only way to implement (c) is with a timer - I am not aware
of the possibility to watch a file for changes. But checking
timestamps should not be too time consuming, so doing it once a minute
or so should be enough.

Applications that do this sort of checking in a loop really mess up 
power saving features of operating systems.

On Unix you use gamin/FAM to ask the system to tell the application 
if a file has changed, it is possible wxwidgets has a cross-platform 
abstraction for this.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Oskar Sander
Hi Matt,

If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.


 0. Get and compile the current trunk of libpano13


If you so happens to build panotools on windows, pls drop me a mail. (and
I'll give this a try too)



 4. Now you need to select which variables to optimize, using by adding
 them to the v line in optimize.txt. I would try optimizing roll, pitch,
 yaw and Tx, Ty, Ts for all but the first image. Run
 $ PToptimizer optimize.txt
 to perform the optimisation. Check the file to see some information
 about the errors. Here some trial and error with different parameter
 sets is probably needed.


I would think you should optimize for x(d), y(e), Tx, Ty, Tz and Ts.  Yaw,
pitch and roll would put the result off, as it is done though panorama
center and not camera center.

Cheers

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Ryan Sleevi



 -Original Message-
 From: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com [mailto:hugin-...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Yuval Levy
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:20 AM
 To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken
 
 
SNIP
 makes sense - I'm on MSVC EE and it looks like Microsoft wants to cap
 the wings of developers for its plattform / extract a tax from them -
 OpenMP is not supported in MSVC EE, just in the higher up, paying
 editions.

Not entirely accurate. You probably want to view
http://blog.codekills.net/archives/25-OpenMP-and-Visual-C++-the-free-way-sor
ta.html 

It turns out OpenMP is like x64 compilation - It's possible, just requires a
little... finesse.


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Matt Williams

2009/9/21 Pablo d'Angelo pablo.dang...@web.de:
 Hi Matt,

 The general workflow for proper orthorectification (as used by the
 professionals) is:

 1. Measure some ground control points (GCPs) in the images. These
 associate an image point with a 3D world position (lat, lon, height). If
 a full bundle adjustment is used, this is not needed for every images as
 tie points (called control points in hugin) can also be used. These are
 usually measured against maps, orthoimages, gps traces. The height is
 often derived from the SRTM dataset, or from high precision GPS
 measurements with post processing at specific corner (centre of
 roundabouts etc.).

 2. With the GCPs and tie points, the position and orientation of each
 photo is estimated using bundle adjustment. This works a bit similar to
 what hugin/panotools does, but it solves for full 3D geometry.

 3. Orthorectification is preformed using the estimated positions and
 orientations and a digital terrain model. If there is a lot of overlap
 in the photos, the terrain model can also be computed from the photos
 itself (This is actually what I currently do in my day job).

 All data that is required for this is freely available. You can use well
 traces streets in OSM for establishing the ground control points in step
 1). The SRTM model required for orthorectification is available in the
 public domain (at least for areas south of 60° northern latitude).

 The main problem is that there is no complete open source software
 package for this job. All the components are available in various
 software packages, but they are not integrated:

 - Tie points can be created in hugin or with other matching software.
 With a bit of scripting, GCPs can be derived from tie points measured
 against OSM maps (its just coordinate transformation and lookup in the
 elevation model).

 - A complete package that takes care of most steps required for 1) and
 2) is bundler, http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/ however, this
 is not designed to handle ground control points, so it won't give you
 absolute coordinates. It uses a customized version of SBA
 http://www.ics.forth.gr/~lourakis/sba/ for the bundle adjustment. SBA
 recently been extended so that it supports both tie points and ground
 control points.

Yes, I've been experimenting with using bundler for analysing the
camera positions but it's fairly undocumented so it'll be a while
before I can get it to work for me.

I'll also have a closer look at SBA. I've compiled the latest version
so I'll see what it can tell me.

 - Orthorectification can be done using open source remote sensing
 software packages such as http://www.ossim.org or
 http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org. However, these packages are mostly
 designed for handling commercial satellite and aerial imagery, and I'm
 not sure if the support a simple camera model.

I'll have a look at them to see if they can be of any use. Even if
they're not suitable for our purpose, I'm sure that I'll learn
something :)

 Then there is e-foto, which I have just downloaded as tried, but I
 didn't manage to do something useful with it.

Yes, I've got e-foto but I couldn't get it to do anything useful
either yet. It seems it's more of a research project and as such, it's
rather underdocumented (at least in English).

 So the correct way to produce nice orthophotos as shown by the map
 providers is not that simple using open source software, and needs quite
 some gluing together of several packages.

 Hugin is currently not really suited for aligning all your images.
 However, the latest work in panotools (as mentioned in the reply by
 Lukas) might help if your area is reasonably flat.

 The new parameters Tx, Ty and Ts parameters in panotools should allow
 you to orthorectify your images to a plane. As these are are very new,
 they are not supported in hugin yet. This means that you need to use the
  panotools script interface from the command line directly. Maybe the
 following procedure might work (disclamer: I haven't tried anything of
 that myself!):

 0. Get and compile the current trunk of libpano13

 1. Load a few overlapping images captured from different viewpoints
 (maybe start with 3 or so) into hugin, and create a few good control
 points between them (make sure that they are good, to avoid confusion
 due to mismatched control points later on). Try to load a very well
 downwards looking image as first image. This image will define the plane
 to which the other images are warped later on.

 Do not optimize yet. Make sure that the field of view of the images is
 reasonably correct. (Computation from EXIF data is probably good for the
 first try).

 2. Set the projection to rectilinear, and choose a wide HFOV and VFOV,
 such as 90 degrees or so. Press the compute optimum size button.

 3. Export everything as panotools compatible project. The 100%
 bulletproof way is to go to the optimisation tab, tick the edit script
 before optimisation (or similar) checkbox, 

[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Matt Williams

2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com:
 Hi Matt,

 If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
 tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.

I absolutely will. This won't be the last time that OSM hire a plane
for some aerial photography and so it's important that we find a
decent way of doing it.

The final images (like the source images) will be creative-commons
licensed and will be available to the public for tracing (or whatever)
so I'll be sure to update this list when I've got something
good-looking.

 0. Get and compile the current trunk of libpano13

 If you so happens to build panotools on windows, pls drop me a mail. (and
 I'll give this a try too)

Sorry, I'm on Linux. I found Panotools really quick and easy to build though.

 4. Now you need to select which variables to optimize, using by adding
 them to the v line in optimize.txt. I would try optimizing roll, pitch,
 yaw and Tx, Ty, Ts for all but the first image. Run
 $ PToptimizer optimize.txt
 to perform the optimisation. Check the file to see some information
 about the errors. Here some trial and error with different parameter
 sets is probably needed.

 I would think you should optimize for x(d), y(e), Tx, Ty, Tz and Ts.  Yaw,
 pitch and roll would put the result off, as it is done though panorama
 center and not camera center.

Ok, I'll have a try with those parameters to see if it gives any
better results. I'm still getting used to the notations and parameters
used by Panotools so I'm pretty much going by what people suggest and
trial and error at the moment.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan de Konink

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Matt Williams schreef:
 2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com:
 Hi Matt,

 If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
 tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.
 
 I absolutely will. This won't be the last time that OSM hire a plane
 for some aerial photography and so it's important that we find a
 decent way of doing it.

Thats why we got money for http://www.openstreetphoto.org/ see our blog:
http://blog.opengeo.nl/ We have two aircrafts and get two more, this
time 3 meter wide electro-gliders :)


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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2009/9/22 Bruno Postle br...@postle.net



 On Unix you use gamin/FAM to ask the system to tell the application
 if a file has changed, it is possible wxwidgets has a cross-platform
 abstraction for this.

 --
 Bruno


Gamin and FAM do not exist on OSX. There are several third-party (free,
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event) that do the same, but nothing official.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: svn 4450 hugin installer for Windows Vista

2009-09-22 Thread Oskar Sander
I don't get this install to work properly.  (I used hugin uninstall for
previous installation first)

It doesn't find any control point matches for me with (default installation
options), although it reports features found.  This seems to happen on all
projects.

after a few tries with different sets of images previously used in other
projects i tried create control point in an already optimized project, and
got this error.

User or developer fault?  ;-)


/O

2009/9/21 Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch


 Thanks, Ad.

 Ad Huikeshoven wrote:
  Last night I did build from scratch and got 4 fatal compile errors. This
  morning I build from scratch and got a new installer for hugin for
 Windows
  Vista, you can find at http://hugin.huikeshoven.org/

 for all practical purposes, this is Hugin 2009.2.0_RC1. although the
 results differ from the results on OSX and on Linux depending on the
 dependencies (pun intended).

 I admit that the spurious errors are worrying me. they may indicate
 problems in the build chain and thus in the quality of the result.


  As attachment I do include two files:

 thanks, will look at them and integrate them in the SVN repository, with
 your notes.

  this one differs from the previous one
  I posted tweaked to compile a 2009.2 version

 so if I understand correctly, this bat file is for 2009.2 and the
 previous one is for trunk? or are there also other changes?

 Yuv

 



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[hugin-ptx] Re: svn 4450 hugin installer for Windows Vista

2009-09-22 Thread Oskar Sander
I forgot the installation options...


Destination location:
  C:\Program Files\Hugin

Setup type:
  Default installation (Autopano-SIFT-C)

Selected components:
  Hugin
  Hugin Language Pack
  Enblend/Enfuse
  Autopano-SIFT-C (Patent issues in the USA!)
  Panotools Command Line Tools

Start Menu folder:
  Hugin

Additional tasks:
  System:
 Set Default Settings? (partially implemented)
  Additional icons:
 Create desktop icons
only for the current user
   Hugin
   Enblend Droplets
   Enfuse Droplets
 Create additional entries in Program Files menu

2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Matt Williams

2009/9/22 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de:
 Matt Williams schreef:
 2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com:
 Hi Matt,

 If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
 tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.

 I absolutely will. This won't be the last time that OSM hire a plane
 for some aerial photography and so it's important that we find a
 decent way of doing it.

 Thats why we got money for http://www.openstreetphoto.org/ see our blog:
 http://blog.opengeo.nl/ We have two aircrafts and get two more, this
 time 3 meter wide electro-gliders :)

Hey Stefan. I was wondering when you might turn up. I guessed you
don't read talk...@osm.org but I knew you were working on stuff in
this area. From what I could tell, you haven't made much progress with
processing the images yet (although I do like the quadcopter thing
:D). If I'm mistaken or if you could be of help with the Stratford
Imagery it would be much appreciated. I haven't been able to find any
mailing list discussions of your work.

In the mean time, I've found that some people have started a project
based on Orfeo-toolbox for simplifying the workflow and it sounds like
it could be useful for our purpose, they even mention OpenStreetMap
(http://wiki.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php/Monteverdi).

Perhaps we'd do well to take this discussion to an OSM list of some
kind (maybe 'photos@' or 'talk@')?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Kornel Benko wrote:
 Anyway it sholud read like:
   if(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS)
 set_target_properties(${_cmd} PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS ${OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS})
 message(STATUS Adding PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS to ${_cmd})
   endif(Boost_FOUND)

it works (after replacing the small error - it should read 
endif(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS) and not endif(Boost_FOUND), and it goes before 
the endif(Boost_FOUND).

I've commmitted to Hg.

the next error to fix (maybe related to Chris' changes:

CMakeError: Unknown Target referenced: doc1

and the same for doc2

I guess on OSX doc1 and doc2 build well?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Ryan Sleevi wrote:
 makes sense - I'm on MSVC EE and it looks like Microsoft wants to cap
 the wings of developers for its plattform / extract a tax from them -
 OpenMP is not supported in MSVC EE, just in the higher up, paying
 editions.
 
 Not entirely accurate. You probably want to view
 http://blog.codekills.net/archives/25-OpenMP-and-Visual-C++-the-free-way-sor
 ta.html 
 
 It turns out OpenMP is like x64 compilation - It's possible, just requires a
 little... finesse.

right now it takes more than just... finesse. They removed it from the 
SDK (see comments #4 - #6 on the blog post that you linked). I had found 
that blog post a few weeks ago (when you, I and others were discussing 
the Windows build of Enblend); I did download the SDK; I did install it; 
and I ended up making the same experience as the guys from #4 - #6.

I don't know if it is legal to redistribute older versions of the SDK; 
nor if anybody does it. I have not checked any further. If Microsoft 
wants to make it difficult for me to build bleeding edge software on 
their architecture, I'll happily build it (and use it) elsewhere.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine

On 21 сен, 06:10, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:

      * Updated Translations:

   - Swedish (Ulf Wilhelmson)
   - Hungarian (Höss Lajos)

Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.

Alexandre
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2009/9/22 Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch


 Kornel Benko wrote:
  Anyway it sholud read like:
if(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS)
  set_target_properties(${_cmd} PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS
 ${OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS})
  message(STATUS Adding PROPERTIES LINK_FLAGS to ${_cmd})
endif(Boost_FOUND)

 it works (after replacing the small error - it should read
 endif(OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS) and not endif(Boost_FOUND), and it goes before
 the endif(Boost_FOUND).

 I've commmitted to Hg.


just synced at 18:30 CET.
cmake runs and finishes correctly but mentions in the end:
-- Sorry, but there is no file
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/enblend.pdf
to copy. Leave it out
-- Sorry, but there is no directory
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/enblend.html
to copy. Leave it out
-- Sorry, but there is no file
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/enfuse.pdf
to copy. Leave it out
-- Sorry, but there is no directory
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/enfuse.html
to copy. Leave it out
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to:
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/build

What does Sorry, but there is no file blahblah to copy. Leave it out
mean?  Is this the supposed doc1/doc2 phase?




 the next error to fix (maybe related to Chris' changes:

 CMakeError: Unknown Target referenced: doc1

 and the same for doc2

 I guess on OSX doc1 and doc2 build well?

 Yuv


What is built by doc1 and doc2?

Scanning dependencies of target man
[ 81%] Generating enblend.1
[ 81%] Generating enfuse.1
[ 88%] Built target man
Scanning dependencies of target doc3
[ 88%] Copy
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/
enblend.info enblend.info
[ 88%] Copy
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/
enfuse.info enfuse.info
[ 88%] Copy
/Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/ExternalPrograms/enblendcs/doc/CMakeLists.txt
CMakeLists.txt
[100%] Built target doc3

I have the idea that doc1 and doc2 are not built. As you can see only the
.info files are built. No pdf, dvi, html and xhtml.

when running make doc1 or make doc2 I get make: *** No rule to make
target `doc1'.  Stop.  (ditto for doc2)

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.

Thank you.

do updated translation require an additional RC? I would be inclined to 
simply add the translations to the next tarball and release it as final 
right away (assuming no code changes), but maybe I am overlooking something?

we also have an updated Chinese traditional (thank you, Rick).

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan de Konink

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Matt Williams schreef:
 Hey Stefan. I was wondering when you might turn up.

I have posted bounties on this list for increasing documentation and for
features ;) So I turned up well before you ;)

 I guessed you
 don't read talk...@osm.org but I knew you were working on stuff in
 this area. From what I could tell, you haven't made much progress with
 processing the images yet (although I do like the quadcopter thing
 :D). If I'm mistaken or if you could be of help with the Stratford
 Imagery it would be much appreciated. I haven't been able to find any
 mailing list discussions of your work.

We did; we have a rectifying program, and like I posted before I was
pointed myself to efoto. From there on we can use qgis and mapserver for
final positioning. Come and idle in #osp on oftc ;)

 In the mean time, I've found that some people have started a project
 based on Orfeo-toolbox for simplifying the workflow and it sounds like
 it could be useful for our purpose, they even mention OpenStreetMap
 (http://wiki.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php/Monteverdi).

I guess we should all focus on implementations that already exist?

 Perhaps we'd do well to take this discussion to an OSM list of some
 kind (maybe 'photos@' or 'talk@')?

Also a possibility.

Stefan
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 12:58 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.

do updated translation require an additional RC?

Yes.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Harry van der Wolf wrote:
 What does Sorry, but there is no file blahblah to copy. Leave it out
 mean?  Is this the supposed doc1/doc2 phase?

sounds like it is the same. and there is also doc3 (I did not notice 
that before).


 What is built by doc1 and doc2?

documentation? I hoped OSX was in a better state than Windows based on 
your recent publication of the manuals. Maybe you used autotools?

current status with Windows: Cmake complains about the doc1/doc2/doc3 
but generates the sln file to kick off MSVC.

On my box (might be a misconfiguration / missing file on my side) in 
MSVC some things works, other not. Specifically, for the Release target:

1vigra_impex - 0 error(s), 5 warning(s)


2z:\store\s1tb\hugin_gsoc2009\hugin-sdk-20090509-win32\enblend\src\mask.h(33) 
: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'slist': No such file or 
directory
2enblend - 1 error(s), 2 warning(s)


3filenameparse.obj : MSIL .netmodule or module compiled with /GL found; 
restarting link with /LTCG; add /LTCG to the link command line to 
improve linker performance
3msvcprt.lib(MSVCP90.dll) : error LNK2005: protected: char const * 
__thiscall std::basic_stringchar,struct std::char_traitschar,class 
std::allocatorchar ::_Myptr(void)const  
(?_my...@?$basic_string@du?$char_tra...@d@std@@v?$alloca...@d@2@@std@@IBEPBDXZ) 
already defined in IlmImf.lib(ImfRgbaFile.obj)

and plenty of other such LNK2005 errors, most of them in 
msvcprt.lib(MSVCP90.dll), two in libcpmt.lib(ios.obj), seven in 
libcpmt.lib(locale0.obj), two in libcpmt.lib(xlock.obj)

3LINK : warning LNK4098: defaultlib 'LIBCMT' conflicts with use of 
other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library
3Z:\store\s1tb\hugin_gsoc2009\Hugin-SDK-20090509-win32\enblend.build\bin\Release\enfuse.exe
 
: fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found
3enfuse - 73 error(s), 6 warning(s)

5man - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s)

4doc3 - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s)

what am I doing wrong, and how can I fix this?

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend: CMake (Windows) broken

2009-09-22 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2009/9/22 Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch


  What is built by doc1 and doc2?

 documentation? I hoped OSX was in a better state than Windows based on
 your recent publication of the manuals. Maybe you used autotools?


Yes, I did. And what's more: I did it on my Ubuntu webserver as OSX for some
reasons generates errors for fig2dev even though the versions are the same.

For the documentation I did:
./configure

and in doc:

make doc
make dvi
make pdf
make html
make xhtml

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Bruno Postle wrote:
 do updated translation require an additional RC?
 
 Yes.

will issue one tonight.

For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed 
up the RC process:
- if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final, 
it is declared final without considering the late translations.
- late translation applied after final release go into the next patch 
release (if somebody cares to release one) and of course in trunk and 
the next release.

The reason behind this motion is that I rather release 2009.4.0_beta1 
next, after declaring final what is out there now for 2009.2.0. It's one 
tarball less to produce, to get to the same place.

Yuv






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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Bruno Postle wrote:
 On Unix you use gamin/FAM to ask the system to tell the application 
 if a file has changed, it is possible wxwidgets has a cross-platform 
 abstraction for this.

Googling a bit I found it was suggested as GSoC 2007 project but not 
implemented back then.
http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/SoC_2007_suggestions

I found mentions of wxFAM in their mailing list as early as 2004.

Then, with a little bit more digging, I got lucky:

http://svn.wxwidgets.org/viewvc/wx/wxWidgets/branches/SOC2009_FSWATCHER/

wxFSwatcher was a GSoC 2009 project.

http://wxwidgets.blogspot.com/2009/09/august-news.html

it is in their SVN, waiting to go into their trunk. I can't wait for us 
to bump up the wxWidgets version required to build Hugin :-)

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 13:36 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
Bruno Postle wrote:
 do updated translation require an additional RC?

 Yes.

For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed
up the RC process:
- if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final,
it is declared final without considering the late translations.

Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that 
'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.

-- 
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Pablo d'Angelo

Hi Matt,

 This is the method I had been using before, but obviously without the
 Tilt parameters and so it really struggled.

Actually, I played around a little, and I wasn't satisfied with the tilt 
parameters, so changed libpano to allow estimate the X,Y and Z camera 
position (assuming a planar earth). I still need to do some final 
testing, but so far it doesn't look too bad.

 Thanks a lot for all your suggestions. I think I'm going to have to
 get a working group together within OSM to try to work on these
 problems. This experiment with aerial photography will likely be
 repeated again and so I feel it's worthwhile for us to create a strong
 open source workflow for creating full stitched images.

Please keep me updated. Where do you discuss these issues?

ciao
   Pablo

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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Harry van der Wolf wrote:
 Gamin and FAM do not exist on OSX. There are several third-party (free,
 shareware and commercial) tools for OSX (some based on the kevent() kernel
 event) that do the same, but nothing official.

let's hope they implemented it in wxWidgets.

wxFileSystemWatcher seems to be scheduled for 2.9.1

http://trac.wxwidgets.org/changeset/61658

2.9.0 was released two weeks ago.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: svn 4450 hugin installer for Windows Vista

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Oskar Sander wrote:
 User or developer fault?  ;-)

nobody's really.

Autopano-SIFT-C is known to be unstable/broken in trunk. And the 
previous version is known to have memory leaks that are fixed in trunk.

Ad informs you on his download site about some of the more dynamic 
dependencies in his installers. Specifically for the hugin-SVN4450 
installer he used autopano-SIFT-C SVN 4450.

The safest thing for you to do is to go back to that version of Hugin 
that worked for you.

If you're adventurous, you can look into C:\Program Files\Hugin\bin (or 
wherever Hugin is installed on your system) and replace 
autopano-sift-c.exe with the older one (from the version of Hugin that 
worked for you).

You can have both versions of Hugin side by side by installing in a 
folder different than the default folder. In this case, the two versions 
will share settings (i.e. registry!). If the settings are messed up, 
there is a convenient reset defaults button in the preferences.

thanks for testing and reporting. keep them coming
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Bruno Postle wrote:
 On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 13:36 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
 Bruno Postle wrote:
 do updated translation require an additional RC?
 Yes.
 For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed
 up the RC process:
 - if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final,
 it is declared final without considering the late translations.
 
 Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that 
 'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.


oh... I was under the impression that we did not. well, if Rick and 
Alexandre forgive me, unless there is a code bug in RC1, I'll release 
their updated translations with 2009.4.0_beta1.

can do other things tonight - such as fixing my Windows box...

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Pablo d'Angelo

Matt Williams wrote:
 2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com:
 Hi Matt,

 If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
 tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.
 
 I absolutely will. This won't be the last time that OSM hire a plane
 for some aerial photography and so it's important that we find a
 decent way of doing it.

I have played a little with the images, and from my perspective, it 
would be more usable, if the camera with a wide angle lens (maybe 28 mm 
instead of 50 mm) would be used especially for the nadir shots. Flying 
at a higher altitude will probably also help.
They probably still have enough detail for mapping (you probably do not 
need 5 cm ground resolution or so, 10 or 20 cm are probably enough to 
recognize most details required for mapping.

At work, we have a full frame camera system ( 3xCanon EOS-1d) with 50 mm 
lenses. Flying that at 1000m gives reasonable detail when looking 
straight down and the imaged area is much larger than with your example 
images, making them easier to handle.

ciao
   Pablo

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 14:08 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:

 Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that
 'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.

oh... I was under the impression that we did not. well, if Rick and
Alexandre forgive me, unless there is a code bug in RC1, I'll release
their updated translations with 2009.4.0_beta1.

So long as a 'final' tarball doesn't go out without being an 'rc' 
first.

This is the status of translations in the current 2009.2 branch:

cs_CZ.po complete.
hu.pocomplete.
it.pocomplete.
nl.pocomplete.
sv.pocomplete.
zh_TW.po complete.
es.po  2 untranslated messages.
de.po  3 untranslated messages.
ru.po  3 untranslated messages.
zh_CN.po   4 untranslated messages.
fr.po 25 untranslated messages.
sk.po 26 untranslated messages.
ja.po 51 untranslated messages.
bg.po101 untranslated messages.
ko.po109 untranslated messages.
pl.po110 untranslated messages.
sl.po147 untranslated messages.
uk.po176 untranslated messages.
pt_BR.po 216 untranslated messages.
ca_ES.po 255 untranslated messages.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Pablo d'Angelo

Stefan de Konink wrote:

 We did; we have a rectifying program, and like I posted before I was
 pointed myself to efoto. From there on we can use qgis and mapserver for
 final positioning. Come and idle in #osp on oftc ;)

Do you have a procedure that works nicely for the large amount of image? 
I couldn't find anything on http://www.openstreetphoto.org ?

ciao
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Matt Williams

2009/9/22 Pablo d'Angelo pablo.dang...@web.de:
 Hi Matt,

 This is the method I had been using before, but obviously without the
 Tilt parameters and so it really struggled.

 Actually, I played around a little, and I wasn't satisfied with the tilt
 parameters, so changed libpano to allow estimate the X,Y and Z camera
 position (assuming a planar earth). I still need to do some final
 testing, but so far it doesn't look too bad.

I see you've checked some of these changes into SVN, I've uncommented
the '#define MOSAIC_XYZ 1' line in adjust.c. Is there anything I need
to do elsewhere to allow it estimate these variables?

 Thanks a lot for all your suggestions. I think I'm going to have to
 get a working group together within OSM to try to work on these
 problems. This experiment with aerial photography will likely be
 repeated again and so I feel it's worthwhile for us to create a strong
 open source workflow for creating full stitched images.

 Please keep me updated. Where do you discuss these issues?

Well, I only got involved in this a few days ago but Stefan de Konink
has been looking at this for a while now. As I understand it, most
discussion has gone on in the Dutch language list so far.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Matt Williams

2009/9/22 Pablo d'Angelo pablo.dang...@web.de:

 Matt Williams wrote:
 2009/9/22 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com:
 Hi Matt,

 If you experiment on this further, it would be really sweet if you did a
 tutorial writeup here even if it doesn't work out perfect right now.

 I absolutely will. This won't be the last time that OSM hire a plane
 for some aerial photography and so it's important that we find a
 decent way of doing it.

 I have played a little with the images, and from my perspective, it
 would be more usable, if the camera with a wide angle lens (maybe 28 mm
 instead of 50 mm) would be used especially for the nadir shots. Flying
 at a higher altitude will probably also help.
 They probably still have enough detail for mapping (you probably do not
 need 5 cm ground resolution or so, 10 or 20 cm are probably enough to
 recognize most details required for mapping.

 At work, we have a full frame camera system ( 3xCanon EOS-1d) with 50 mm
 lenses. Flying that at 1000m gives reasonable detail when looking
 straight down and the imaged area is much larger than with your example
 images, making them easier to handle.

Ok. That's definitely something worth considering for the future. For
the shots you've seen, the camera was provided by whoever in the area
had a camera and free time for when the plane was booked. It's
possible we could obtain a higher quality camera as a community. I
guess Stefan won't want to spend his grant money on a camera that is
too heavy for a Quadcopter :)

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Pablo d'Angelo

Matt Williams wrote:
 2009/9/22 Pablo d'Angelo pablo.dang...@web.de:
 Hi Matt,

 This is the method I had been using before, but obviously without the
 Tilt parameters and so it really struggled.
 Actually, I played around a little, and I wasn't satisfied with the tilt
 parameters, so changed libpano to allow estimate the X,Y and Z camera
 position (assuming a planar earth). I still need to do some final
 testing, but so far it doesn't look too bad.
 
 I see you've checked some of these changes into SVN, I've uncommented
 the '#define MOSAIC_XYZ 1' line in adjust.c. Is there anything I need
 to do elsewhere to allow it estimate these variables?

No. With these you could just try to optimize y,p,r,Tx,Ty,Tz for all 
images except the first one.

ciao
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching (using new mosaic mode)

2009-09-22 Thread Pablo d'Angelo

Pablo d'Angelo schrieb:
 Matt Williams wrote:
 2009/9/22 Pablo d'Angelo pablo.dang...@web.de:
 Hi Matt,

 This is the method I had been using before, but obviously without the
 Tilt parameters and so it really struggled.
 Actually, I played around a little, and I wasn't satisfied with the tilt
 parameters, so changed libpano to allow estimate the X,Y and Z camera
 position (assuming a planar earth). I still need to do some final
 testing, but so far it doesn't look too bad.
 I see you've checked some of these changes into SVN, I've uncommented
 the '#define MOSAIC_XYZ 1' line in adjust.c. Is there anything I need
 to do elsewhere to allow it estimate these variables?
 
 No. With these you could just try to optimize y,p,r,Tx,Ty,Tz for all 
 images except the first one.

There is a bug in panotools. Sometimes it does not optimize parameters 
if they are exactly set to 0. This seems to affect the Tx, Ty and Tz 
parameters as well (a,b,c parameters are the other parameter that suffer 
from this).

So simply add Tx0.1 Ty0.1 Tz0.1 to i lines, except for the first one.

Note: the names of the Tx, Ty, Tz parameters are only valid with the 
current svn and the MOSAIC_XYZ define in adjust.c. They will be 
available under another name in the future (probably just X Y Z).

Here is the result of merging images 539-549 from
http://vps-1005786-1584.united-hoster.de/tmp/539-549.jpg

It is not referenced to an OSM map (too late in the evening...), but the 
result looks very promising. It also shows that the sideward views are 
probably not that helpful for mapping, at least when reprojecting them.

Quick procedure:

1. panomatic -o 539-549.pto *.jpg
2. hugin 539-549.pto
  - set focal length to 50mm (~ HFOV 26°)
  - open fast preview
 - set projection to rectilinear,
 - select hfov and vfov ~ 100
 - show only the first image.
 - use the drag tool to move the first image so that it roughly 
looking like a nadir image
 - select all images again
  - Go to the optimizer tab, select (optimize y,p,r)
  - tick edit script
  - copy script into a text file 539.549.txt
  - Edit script, add
 Tx0.1 Ty0.1 Tz0.1 to i lines, except for the first one.
  - modify the v lines to include Tx# Ty# Tz# (where # is the image
number)

  - run PToptimizer 539-549.txt
  - run PTmender -o 539-549 539-549.txt
  - run PTroller -o 539-549.tif 539-5490*.tif
  - crop 539-549.tif in your favorite image editor.


ciao
   Pablo

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Bruno Postle wrote:
 So long as a 'final' tarball doesn't go out without being an 'rc' 
 first.

understood :)


 This is the status of translations in the current 2009.2 branch:

do you have a script to extract this kind of statistics? and what is the 
total number of strings?

I've looked at the .po files and the headers are (excuse my English) 
quite messy. It's not high priority, but they should be normalized.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan de Konink

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 Do you have a procedure that works nicely for the large amount of image? 

Next to just adding them to Hugin and per photo stitching we don't have it.


But I saw your last email and I wonder:

 How did you solve the altitude difference? Because we have many
 problems with that. If in one flight different altitudes were flown
 hugin really can't stitch it.


Stefan
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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Bruno Postle

I am looking at this to scratch an itch.  I don't like having to load my
images into another program to edit the alpha channel.  My needs are
pretty basic as I had only considered negative masking and really just a
way to paint out certain areas before the remapping and blending.  So
one could consider that a use case.  I know there are others.

In this case, I thought adding the masking interface to the crop tab
would be the best place, as one is attempting to acomplish basically the
same thing: remove undesired parts from the source image. Typically, I
would just want to paint in the mask with varying sizes of soft brushes.

I think the masks should be polylines rather than bitmaps, this way 
they can be stored in the .pto project itself.

There would need to be the facility for more than one loop per input 
photo, hand-drawn loops would need to be able to extend outside the 
image canvas and overlap with each other without failing.

Although editing the masks in the remapped projection (i.e. in the 
preview) makes a lot of sense, they need to be stored in the same 
coordinate space as the original photo and converted back and forth 
for use.  Otherwise just dragging the panorama or optimising would 
invalidate the masks (this is one of the drawbacks of using 
tiff2svg/inkscape/enblend-svg).

Having said that, initially a simple editor in the 'photo' space, 
just an extension of the Crop tab would still be very useful.  This 
wouldn't require any code to remap polyline coordinates.

If converting back and forth is it likely that spline curves would 
survive the transformation better than straight edged polygons.

The way the masks should operate is at the nona stage, masked-out 
areas shouldn't be sampled, and as a result will become 100% 
transparent in the files that are sent to enblend/enfuse.

Positive masking would be some what tricky since, as far as I know, the
only way to guarantee an area of one image will definately appear is to
apply a negative mask to all of the overlapping images of the area.  Is
that correct?

That's right, but it works very well.  I would expect that in a full 
implementation positive and negative masking would be used equally.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Aerial Photography Stitching

2009-09-22 Thread Dale Beams

There is software out there for model RC planes that will allow you to use an 
altimeter and get a constant height with a gps combo  It'll fly a grid pattern 
as well.

Dale






 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:42:30 +0200
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  Do you have a procedure that works nicely for the large amount of image? 
 
 Next to just adding them to Hugin and per photo stitching we don't have it.
 
 
 But I saw your last email and I wonder:
 
  How did you solve the altitude difference? Because we have many
  problems with that. If in one flight different altitudes were flown
  hugin really can't stitch it.
 
 
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

2009-09-22 Thread Yuval Levy

Bruno Postle wrote:
msgfmt --statistics eo_XX.po

thanks.

I updated http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Statistics


 There are 1044 strings in the hugin.pot file.  The main translation 
 problem we have now is that many of these strings are in the 
 sourcecode, but not in bits that are used - i.e. there are strings 
 that are being translated unnecessarily (the panodruid for example).

and I've added this to the list of issues there.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC2008_masking

2009-09-22 Thread Gerry Patterson
Hi All,

Based on the responses from this thread I can glean the following:

   - Masks should be stored as vector paths and attached to the project
   (pto) files
   - Editing the masks in the preview is desirable.
   - positive masking is as useful as negative masking.

Strange that those three things are opposite what I normally do or thought I
would use.  I had originally proposed a simple alpha channel editor with
paint brushes. I can see the advantages of the above listed points, I am
just surprised at consistency of the replies.

Perhaps I need to revisit my workflow :-)

Best Regards,

- Gerry

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