z/OS V1R4 SEND command to operator console

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Ip
Hi all,

I'd like to use MVS SEND command to send 'highlighted' messages to operator
console with message level = 'I' [Immediate action messages (descriptor
codes 1 and 2) are to appear] to alert operators at the last step of a batch
job (probably use PGM=IKJEFT01)

I've checked command manual that the OPERATOR=routecode may be the suitable
parm for this, e.g.
 SE 'pack offsite tapes...' OPERATOR=1 (1 = master console action or 2 =
master console information) 

however, it just issued a message to console but it was *not*
'highlighted'... did I miss something or it is also related to the console
setting? (the operator console has 'ROUTCDE=ALL')

please help...

Paul

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Re: z/OS V1R4 SEND command to operator console

2006-05-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 24 May 2006 01:22:50 -0500 Paul Ip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:I'd like to use MVS SEND command to send 'highlighted' messages to operator
:console with message level = 'I' [Immediate action messages (descriptor
:codes 1 and 2) are to appear] to alert operators at the last step of a batch
:job (probably use PGM=IKJEFT01)

:I've checked command manual that the OPERATOR=routecode may be the suitable
:parm for this, e.g.
: SE 'pack offsite tapes...' OPERATOR=1 (1 = master console action or 2 =
:master console information) 

:however, it just issued a message to console but it was *not*
:'highlighted'... did I miss something or it is also related to the console
:setting? (the operator console has 'ROUTCDE=ALL')

Neither the MVS nor the TSO SEND command allows for the setting of descriptor
codes.

As far as for your need - I would suggest that this is something that your job
scheduling package should do.

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Re: GRS and Ficon CTC

2006-05-24 Thread R.S.

Marian Gasparovic wrote:
z900 was the last one which supports parallel channel, maybe that 
confused you.


...but you can still use old stinkin' BusTag devices on z9. Using ESCON 
converters. Works like a charm.


BTW: If you don't order ESCON channels, there won't be them in your box. 
Minimal number of ESCONs is ZERO. g

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
With SMS, RLSE, (Yes, Immediate) at least I think I've seen it,
happens at step end. You're correct for non-SMS datasets. 

You don't think about partial release of the space management 
function activated via management class, do you? 

A data set might loose its allocated space during space 
management, but it will not during allocation, even if 
SMS writes an EOF into it.

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
LE has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
A dataset is a dataset is a dataset. 

Well, there are those who get an EOF written at allocation
time and those that don't. Can't remember if having SMS
active is sufficient of if the data set needs to be
managed to get the EOF written.


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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread R.S.

John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:


It also says:

3. If the BLKSIZE value is omitted or invalid, SMP/E uses a default of 
3200.


So I would assume that it is looking at the blocksize prior to open time 
to verify that it is a valid size.  Since 0 is sort of not really valid, 
it should default to 3200.


But you would have to figure after over a decade of SDB that somebody 
could have easily added a check for 0 and use that.  Could be that the 
SMP/E developers don't beleive that SDB will generate a valid block size 
for FB/80?


I think it's typical for IBM. Examples:
1. DFSMSdss doesn't use LBI, it uses illegal 64kB blocks on tapes 
using EXCP. Such dump cannot be easily copied, RMM (IBM product!) have 
no information about the blocksize and then dataset size...
2. DB2 doesn't (wasn't) check RACF profile when started/closed. Effect: 
everybody (who can issue operator commands) can kill DB2. The same 
person can be strictly controlled when i.e. using DISPLAY command, he 
could be authorized to D SMF, but not D IPLINFO. But not -dsn STOP DB2.

3. IND$FILE also uses BLKSIZE of 3200/6160.
There are more examples like the above.


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Re: Password Complexity

2006-05-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
try to convince management to have separate or just external auditor, usually 
with poor effects.

In North America, that would be classified as a:
Regulatory Deficiency.

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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread Mike Wood
Radoslaw,  At long last it really has been changed !
APAR OA13742 for dss added the LBI support we all wanted.
Also APAR OA13199 for rmm added some assumptions about existing blksize 
values of 0 being 64K when producing the extract records.

Mike Wood   RMM Development
On Wed, 24 May 2006 09:10:04 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I think it's typical for IBM. Examples:
1. DFSMSdss doesn't use LBI, it uses illegal 64kB blocks on tapes
using EXCP. Such dump cannot be easily copied, RMM (IBM product!) have
no information about the blocksize and then dataset size...
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Re: z/OS V1R4 SEND command to operator console

2006-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe

Paul Ip wrote:

however, it just issued a message to console but it was *not*
'highlighted'... did I miss something or it is also related to the console
setting? (the operator console has 'ROUTCDE=ALL')
  


You will need to write a small assembler language program that issues a 
WTO with the proper attributes. There may even be something available on 
the CBT tape that takes TSO command parameters and turns them into WTO 
parameters.


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'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi,
We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT 
(trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc at 
pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon). 
Looking into SMS confirms: Expiration date . . : ***None***
In a next SyncSort step we use that dataset as 
//SORTOUT DD DSN=...bla.bla.bla...,DISP=OLD,EXPDT=filled-in
i.e. with an expiration date set in the JCL this time.
This EXPDT setting is *NOT* honoured.
Is this WAD (Working As Designed) with SyncSort?
*
We think indeed it is a 'problem' with SyncSort.
We did another test with a pre-allocation without *EXPDT* and with another 
program + EXPDT, in this case the EXPDT *got* honoured.
*
Frank (Yaeger), 
Any idea how the IBM DFSORT handles this?
*
We are contacting SyncSort too in parallel, but you guys can possibly 
(probably!) share your experience on this?!
Jan

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FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread willie bunter
A incremental backup job failed with message FDR998  FDRABR COMPLETED WITH 
ERRORS.  I checked the whole output from top to bottom but I couldn't find the 
source of the problem.  I didn't find even a FDRxxxE message.  The summary 
shows the completion code of all the volumes with a return code of 0.   Is 
there some place else where I can look?
   
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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread R.S.

Jan Vanbrabant wrote:


Hi,
We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT 
(trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc at 
pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon). 


Jan,
Just curious: why do you use EXPDT at all ?
Wouldn't it be simpler to use MC ?

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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread R.S.

Mike Wood wrote:


Radoslaw,  At long last it really has been changed !
APAR OA13742 for dss added the LBI support we all wanted.
Also APAR OA13199 for rmm added some assumptions about existing blksize 
values of 0 being 64K when producing the extract records.


How long ?
My z/OS 1.4 (service pretty up to date - RMM knows about WWID) knows 
nothing about blocksize on hsm tapes.


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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
This EXPDT setting is *NOT* honoured.
Is this WAD (Working As Designed) with SyncSort?

This is not SYNCSORT.
MVS allocation does not put the EXPDT in until you close the file.
It doesn't make sense to do it at open time.
Then, you wouldn't be able to do anything with the file.
To me, what you're attempting doesn't make sense, either?
You want the sort step to fail?

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
I did a simple test with a non-specific internal application and there no expdt 
is assigned either. Apparently this parameter only works at dataset creation 
time.

Kees.

Jan Vanbrabant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]...
 Hi,
 We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT 
 (trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc at  
 pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon). 
 Looking into SMS confirms: Expiration date . . : ***None***
 In a next SyncSort step we use that dataset as 
 //SORTOUT DD DSN=...bla.bla.bla...,DISP=OLD,EXPDT=filled-in
 i.e. with an expiration date set in the JCL this time.
 This EXPDT setting is *NOT* honoured.
 Is this WAD (Working As Designed) with SyncSort?
 *
 We think indeed it is a 'problem' with SyncSort.
 We did another test with a pre-allocation without *EXPDT* and with another 
 program + EXPDT, in this case the EXPDT *got* honoured.
 *
 Frank (Yaeger), 
 Any idea how the IBM DFSORT handles this?
 *
 We are contacting SyncSort too in parallel, but you guys can possibly 
 (probably!) share your experience on this?!
 Jan
 
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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
I assume you mean MgtClass by MC, Radoslaw?  We do use MgtClass indeed.
And in the SORTOUT we overwrite  EXPDT (or at least try to  ;-) ).
Anyway, would that make any difference?
Jan
We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT
(trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc
at
pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon).
  
   Jan,
   Just curious: why do you use EXPDT at all ?
   Wouldn't it be simpler to use MC ?
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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe

Jan Vanbrabant wrote:

Hi,
We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT 
(trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc at 
pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon). 
Looking into SMS confirms: Expiration date . . : ***None***
In a next SyncSort step we use that dataset as 
//SORTOUT DD DSN=...bla.bla.bla...,DISP=OLD,EXPDT=filled-in

i.e. with an expiration date set in the JCL this time.
This EXPDT setting is *NOT* honoured.
Is this WAD (Working As Designed) with SyncSort?
*
We think indeed it is a 'problem' with SyncSort.
We did another test with a pre-allocation without *EXPDT* and with another 
program + EXPDT, in this case the EXPDT *got* honoured.
  


This doesn't sound like a sort issue at all. The application is not 
normally involved in such matters.


I suspect that EXPDT in the format-1 DSCB for an existing file can be 
reset like this only when the file is opened for output or update. I 
would have to run some tests to be sure.


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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread john gilmore
For SMS-managed datasets DataClass (not, directly, MgtClass, which can be 
used only to specify a maximal value) determines the default expiration 
date; and an explicit DD-statement EXPDT= [sub]parameter should be coded 
only to override this default value.


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Re: the Java strangeness

2006-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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I can't say where the translation is setup wrong, but I can almost
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as EBCDIC, they are then being displayed as ANSI cp1252

ANSI? Isn't CP1252 an M$ proprietary code page, not matching any
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Re: sysmod receive but can't be found

2006-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
05/23/2006
   at 09:33 AM, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  Of interest is the fact that the volume for the first SMPPTS can't
be found anywhere in the system yet the sysmod shows up as received.

Maybe SMP/E doesn't support extended catalog entries. What are the
exact contents of the DDDEF and catalog entries for your SMPPTS? 
 
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/23/2006
   at 12:05 PM, David  Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The group in my shop responsible for care and feeding of this product 
contend that the vendor has told them that Since the product is LE 
compliant, it cannot write into a dataset that has been generated by 
the IEFBR14 utility. 

What are they smoking?
 
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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 05/23/2006
   at 10:52 AM, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

   RLSE happens at the end of the BR14 step. If your DATACLAS or
space allocations don't have sufficient secondary and you specify
RLSE via JCL or SMS, you can be burnt with x37 abends.

Which has nothing to do with either IEFBR14 or LE.
 
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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread John Dawes
Hi Rex,
   
  I tried your suggestion and received an error.  Below is the Jcl and 
error message I received.  Can you please spot my error.  This is 
driving me mad, and I cannot seem to find this simple error.  Maybe a fresh 
pair of eyes will spot my mistake.  Thanks for your help.  
   
  JCL:
   
  //DASD DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P01,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P02,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P03,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P04,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P06,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE DD DSN=Z8002D.TEST,DISP=(,KEEP,KEEP),  
//UNIT=(CART),VOL=(,,,35),LABEL=RETPD=10  
//SYSINDD *   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
  MED*.**   - 
  X*.** - 
  Y*.** - 
  Z*.** - 
  SRT.**- 
  SYS*.**   - 
  TEMP.**   - 
  *SYSUT*.**)  -  
  BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -   
  LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
  OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
  TOL(ENQF)   

  Execution  error message:
   
  ADR031I (SCH)-PRIME(01), TYPRUN=NORUN REQUESTED. TASKS WILL EXECUTE 
IN NORUN MOD
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-
  MED*.**   -   
  X*.** -   
  Y*.** -   
  Z*.** -   
  SRT.**-   
  SYS*.**   -   
  TEMP.**   -   
  *SYSUT*.**)  -
  BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) - 
  LOGINDDNAME(DASD) -   
  OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -   
  TOL(ENQF) 
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2006.143 14:07:44 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL 
STATEMEN
ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD 'LOGINDDNAME ' IS IMPROPER 
ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND 
ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2006.143 14:07:44 TASK NOT SCHEDULED DUE TO 
ERROR. TASK


Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Try 
BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread J R
The FM says, Use the EXPDT parameter to specify the expiration date for a 
*new* data set.




From: Jan Vanbrabant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: 'Problem'  with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:00:38 -0500

Hi,
We pre-allocate a dataset *without* EXPDT
(trust me there are good reasons why we don't set a EXPDT hic et nunc at
pre-allocation time, which I'm not going to elaborate upon).
Looking into SMS confirms: Expiration date . . : ***None***
In a next SyncSort step we use that dataset as
//SORTOUT DD DSN=...bla.bla.bla...,DISP=OLD,EXPDT=filled-in
i.e. with an expiration date set in the JCL this time.
This EXPDT setting is *NOT* honoured.
Is this WAD (Working As Designed) with SyncSort?
*
We think indeed it is a 'problem' with SyncSort.
We did another test with a pre-allocation without *EXPDT* and with another
program + EXPDT, in this case the EXPDT *got* honoured.
*
Frank (Yaeger),
Any idea how the IBM DFSORT handles this?
*
We are contacting SyncSort too in parallel, but you guys can possibly
(probably!) share your experience on this?!
Jan

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
 
 
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on  05/23/2006
at 12:05 PM, David  Speake  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The group in my shop  responsible for care and feeding of this product 
contend that the vendor  has told them that Since the product is LE 
compliant, it cannot write  into a dataset that has been generated by 
the IEFBR14  utility.

In a message dated 5/24/2006 7:02:48 A.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
shmuel+ibm-[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are they smoking?
 
It could be that the group in his shop OR the vendor is the one that's been  
smoking the cluelessness-inducing substance.  Or maybe both clusters.   I have 
encountered some clueless vendors.



Bill  Fairchild

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi jayare,
What is FM? A SyncSort manual?
Jan
  
  The FM says, Use the EXPDT parameter to specify the expiration date for a 
  *new* data set.
  

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Well EXPDT enthousiasts,

we did this test with another pgm (something of Pro/JCL)
and here the EXPDT *gets* honoured  (as wl for TEST1 as for TEST2).
So different behaviour as with SyncSort.

Ed,
so the application seems to be involved one way or another.


file://*
file://* PREALLOC
file://*
file://S0010EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
file://*  INPUT FILES
file://IN0001   DD  DUMMY
file://*  OUTPUT FILES
file://UT0001   DD  DSN=CERATSO.CSOO192.TEST1,
// DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),
// RECFM=FB,LRECL=133
file://*  DIVERS
file://SYSINDD  *
 REPRO IFILE(IN0001)  OFILE(UT0001)
/*
file://SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
file://*
file://*
file://* PROJCL
file://*
file://BATCHRUN EXEC PR1PROC,
// PROD='-PROJCL'
file://SYSINDD  *
%% INPUT DSNAME='CERATSO.TOS.JCL',
%% TYPE=PDS,
%% RESETBETWEENMEMBERS=Y,
%% PROCESS=JOB,
%% SKELETONPROCESSING=Y,
%% RTSMEMBER=SYNTAX,
%% REPORTS=SJL,
%% SELECT=PROJCLP
/*
file://JPSJLDD  DSN=CERATSO.CSOO192.TEST1,
// DISP=OLD,RETPD=002
file://JPSELDD  DSN=CERATSO.CSOO192.TEST2,
// DISP=(,CATLG),
// RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,RETPD=002


Data Set Name . . . . : CERATSO.CSOO192.TEST1

General Data   Current Allocation
 Management class . . : MCTSO   Allocated cylinders : 1
 Storage class  . . . : SCTSO   Allocated extents . : 1
  Volume serial . . . : PC3774
  Device type . . . . : 3390
 Data class . . . . . : DCDEF  Current Utilization
  Organization  . . . : PS  Used cylinders  . . : 1
  Record format . . . : FBA Used extents  . . . : 1
  Record length . . . : 133
  Block size  . . . . : 27930
  1st extent cylinders: 1
  Secondary cylinders : 300
  Data set name type  : SMS Compressible  . : NO

  Creation date . . . : 2006/05/24  Referenced date . . : 2006/05/24
  Expiration date . . : 2006/05/26


Data Set Name . . . . : CERATSO.CSOO192.TEST2

General Data   Current Allocation
 Management class . . : MCTSO   Allocated cylinders : 1
 Storage class  . . . : SCTSO   Allocated extents . : 1
  Volume serial . . . : PC3769
  Device type . . . . : 3390
 Data class . . . . . : DCDEF  Current Utilization
  Organization  . . . : PS  Used cylinders  . . : 1
  Record format . . . : FBA Used extents  . . . : 1
  Record length . . . : 133
  Block size  . . . . : 27930
  1st extent cylinders: 1
  Secondary cylinders : 300
  Data set name type  : SMS Compressible  . : NO

  Creation date . . . : 2006/05/24  Referenced date . . : 2006/05/24
  Expiration date . . : 2006/05/26

Jan

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread J R

The Fine Manual is
 SA22-7597-08  z/OS MVS JCL Reference.



From: Jan Vanbrabant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:11:05 +

Hi jayare,
What is FM? A SyncSort manual?
Jan
  
  The FM says, Use the EXPDT parameter to specify the expiration date 
for a

  *new* data set.
  

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Re: DSS blksize (Was: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB)

2006-05-24 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:23:41 +0200, R.S. wrote:

Mike Wood wrote:

 Radoslaw,  At long last it really has been changed !
 APAR OA13742 for dss added the LBI support we all wanted.
 Also APAR OA13199 for rmm added some assumptions about existing blksize
 values of 0 being 64K when producing the extract records.

How long ?
My z/OS 1.4 (service pretty up to date - RMM knows about WWID) knows
nothing about blocksize on hsm tapes.

PUT0511, RSU0603

Applicable component levels
R1G0 PSY UA22851   UP05/12/01 P F511
R1H0 PSY UA22852   UP05/12/01 P F511
R1J0 PSY UA22853   UP05/12/01 P F511
R1K0 PSY UA22854   UP05/12/01 P F511

DSS with OA13742 provides the blksize (65520) in the tape label to make RMM
et al happy but the dump dataset is not reblockable (see thread dfsmsdss
blocksize 2006-05-22). DSS does not use a blksize  65520 on 3590s (other
utilities use 256k). So I assume that DSS doesn't use the LBI.

Norbert Friemel

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 23 May 2006 16:04:10 -0400, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I would add, use response time goals for everything you can.

Yes, in general that is the right answer because the target unit (time)
is invariant with respect to platform. Velocity was a bad idea.
Importance alone would have been preferable, or some less obscure way of
saying how much delay protection you wanted for the work, but now it is
what it is.

 They are far preferable for batch, IMHO.

...for most batch. If you look at your initiator and batch class
setup, you already have a first cut approximation at the goals. But
don't overdo it. Some things just don't have a goal that you can predict
and in those cases...

Im not sure what you mean by that, Chris.  Initiator and class setup
didn't tell me much.  I had to look at typical turn-around times and
the number of jobs.  As far as not having A goal that you can predict,
are you talking about individual jobs?  That's not what you need to
think about when setting goals.  That's why I suggested using
relatively low percentile.  If you tell WLM that you want half of
your production batch to finish in ten minutes, all jobs that are in
that service class will get the same dispatching priority, etc, which
will be managed to provide that level of service to the half that
finish quickly.

 Use a relatively low percentile and reasonable goals. Don't be too
concerned about the monster jobs
 that run all night.  You probably don't have very many of them.
 You'll probably find, as I did, that the vast majority of your
 important production jobs run in a relatively short time.  Maybe a
 goal of 50% complete in less that 30 minutes will cover most of
 your work.  The rest will go along for the ride.

 And don't forget to put as much as you can into discretionary.
 Maybe even last period TSO.

Maybe yes, maybe not. Discretionary is just that. If you approach
discretionary from the view that you don't really care whether or how it
runs as long as it eventually finishes, you probably won't be
disappointed.

In my experience, there are usually some cycles available for
discretionary work, even when you think your CPU is pegged.
Discretionary work gives WLM the opportunity to use that last little
bit of resources.  Without it, you might find that you are unable to
effectively use that last percent or two.

And if your discretionary isn't running at all, it may be that you
have set unattainable goals on some of your other work, and WLM is
struggling to meet those goals.

Otherwise, unless you really have capacity to spare (and keep soft/hard
caps in mind!) you are very likely to find great slabs of the day where
your discretionary stuff does not run at all - and ends up eating an
initiator for each job that's actively going nowhere. In those cases it
is better to have a goal, even if it's a pretty low one. And if you're
not resource-wealthy and don't want to spend so much time dinking around
with your policy, set a low goal and be done with it.

Initiators are also resources.  WLM can manage them quite nicely in
most cases.  If you frequently have to fiddle with your policy, you
have probably set goals that are too aggressive.

 Now would be a good time to move to response time goals for CICS
(before
 the upgrade). In the mixed environment, the achieved velocities may
vary
 widely, but the RT goals should be met on either platform.

I -STRONGLY- agree with Steve Samson's advice above ps. Hi Steve, are
you still enjoying retirement?


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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Found it!

We were still 1 right paren short.  Replace the BY line with the
following:

   BY((CREDT LT (*,-1)) (DSORG NE VSAM))) -   

Also, when I discovered the problem, my test then complained about
having DASD concatenated.  You will need to either put separate DD
statements in for each VOLSER or use catalog processing and skip the
volser allocations.  If you want to set it up with multiple volsers,
just use:

LOGINDDNAME(DASD1 DASD2 DASD3)

HTH

Rex

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Subject: Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error


Hi Rex,
   
  I tried your suggestion and received an error.  Below is the Jcl and 
error message I received.  Can you please spot my error.  This is 
driving me mad, and I cannot seem to find this simple error.  Maybe a
fresh 
pair of eyes will spot my mistake.  Thanks for your help.  
   
  JCL:
   
  //DASD DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P01,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P02,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P03,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P04,DISP=SHR   
// DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=D38P06,DISP=SHR   
//TAPE DD DSN=Z8002D.TEST,DISP=(,KEEP,KEEP),  
//UNIT=(CART),VOL=(,,,35),LABEL=RETPD=10  
//SYSINDD *   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
  MED*.**   - 
  X*.** - 
  Y*.** - 
  Z*.** - 
  SRT.**- 
  SYS*.**   - 
  TEMP.**   - 
  *SYSUT*.**)  -  
  BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -   
  LOGINDDNAME(DASD) - 
  OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
  TOL(ENQF)   

  Execution  error message:
   
  ADR031I (SCH)-PRIME(01), TYPRUN=NORUN REQUESTED. TASKS WILL EXECUTE 
IN NORUN MOD
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-

  MED*.**   -

  X*.** -

  Y*.** -

  Z*.** -

  SRT.**-

  SYS*.**   -

  TEMP.**   -

  *SYSUT*.**)  -

  BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -

  LOGINDDNAME(DASD) -

  OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -

  TOL(ENQF)

ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP 
'
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2006.143 14:07:44 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL 
STATEMEN
ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD 'LOGINDDNAME ' IS IMPROPER

ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND

ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2006.143 14:07:44 TASK NOT SCHEDULED DUE TO 
ERROR. TASK


Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Try
BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM))) -

Rex



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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi John,

I saw your posts yesterday but believed it would be resolved before I could 
respond.

I played about with your command input and changed from this:

//SYSINDD *   
  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-  
  MED*.**   - 
  X*.** - 
  Y*.** - 
  Z*.** - 
  SRT.**- 
  SYS*.**   - 
  TEMP.**   - 
  *SYSUT*.**)  - 

To this

   DUMP LIDD(DASD) OUTDD(TAPE)-  
   OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -   
   TOL(ENQF) -   
   DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**,   -  
   MED*.**,  -   
   X*.**,-   
   Y*.**,-   
   Z*.**,-   
   SRT.**,   -   
   SYS*.**,  -   
   TEMP.**,  -   
   *SYSUT*.**)  -
   BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM  
  

It clear all command errors..

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-24 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
 Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness 
 I'm encountering
 
 
 I swear I could run Java classes without saying 'java'
 but it must be the ol' memory failure again. 
 
 Any chance this remembrance is related to playing on 
 Windoze? Or on a Mac? They care for file extensions,
 UNIX does not.
 
 BTW, someone mentioned the execute bit being set. 
 .class files don't need it, don't set it.
 
 
 Peter Hunkeler
 CREDIT SUISSE

Talk about a weirdness. I just checked my Howdy.java file, which the
shell attempted to execute and IT DOES NOT HAVE THE EXECUTE BIT ON! The
shell should NOT even attempt to run the file, what is with that? That
is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

And if I invoke the BASH shell, I get:

bash: ./Howdy.class: cannot execute binary file

With the tcsh shell, I get:

./Howdy.class: EDC5130I Exec format error.. Binary file not executable.

Hum, sounds like it is time for a little talk with z/OS UNIX shell
programmers.

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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-24 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Gould
 
 On May 23, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Frank Yaeger wrote:
 
  Matthew Stitt wrote on 05/23/2006 08:50:50 AM:
 
  This thread has me doing some RTFM as I am interested in this area 
  also.
 
  Did you change all the ICEAMx installation default modules?  The 
  manual shows there are 8 of them.
 
  (David asked Christian for some more information offline so he can 
  better understand the situation.)
 
  There are actually four ICEAMx installation default modules, and
four 
  ICETDx installation default modules.
 
 Just a quick question. Instead of masking four usermods why 
 not have just 1 ? this would make life a lot easier ?
 
 ex:
 
 ICEDEF CSECT
  ICE1 type=tso,option=
  ICE1 type=batch,option=???
   etc
  etc
  end

We combine all four environments for DFSORT into a single USERMOD now.
No problems.  We don't yet make enough use of ICETOOL to change any of
the delivered defaults, but when that time comes I expect we'll code
just one USERMOD for its four environments, too.

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Using PuTTY with otelnetd

2006-05-24 Thread Art Celestini
I realize this might better be asked on the OMVS list, but
I'm not a subscriber there.  

I cannot seem to find the right combination of PuTTY options and
terminal emulation type to get the recall function to work.
For telnetd on Lintel systems, this is the up-arrow.  The IBM 
Communications Server doc seems to suggest F1 or Esc-1 should do 
it for otelnetd, but I can get neither to work for me. 

Can anyone provide any direction?  I'm using PuTTY v0.54 going
against z/OS 1.6 if that makes any difference.

Thanks,
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Re: the Java strangeness

2006-05-24 Thread McKown, John
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 In
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at 10:39 AM, O'Mara, Kevin, ITD [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 I can't say where the translation is setup wrong, but I can almost
 say what is happening. Your utf8 output strings are being translated
 as EBCDIC, they are then being displayed as ANSI cp1252
 
 ANSI? Isn't CP1252 an M$ proprietary code page, not matching any
 standard?
  
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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Comstock

McKown, John wrote:

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:33 AM
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I'm encountering





I swear I could run Java classes without saying 'java'
but it must be the ol' memory failure again. 


Any chance this remembrance is related to playing on 
Windoze? Or on a Mac? They care for file extensions,

UNIX does not.

BTW, someone mentioned the execute bit being set. 
.class files don't need it, don't set it.



Peter Hunkeler
CREDIT SUISSE



Talk about a weirdness. I just checked my Howdy.java file, which the
shell attempted to execute and IT DOES NOT HAVE THE EXECUTE BIT ON! The
shell should NOT even attempt to run the file, what is with that? That
is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!


No, it's RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!

As Peter mentioned above, the file does not need the execute
bit set: it is not executable.

What is executable is the JVM. So the java command must
have the execute bit set; when you enter:

java Howdy

then the JVM runs and interprets the byte code in Howdy.class.

It all makes {perfect | reasonable} sense.





And if I invoke the BASH shell, I get:

bash: ./Howdy.class: cannot execute binary file

With the tcsh shell, I get:

./Howdy.class: EDC5130I Exec format error.. Binary file not executable.

Hum, sounds like it is time for a little talk with z/OS UNIX shell
programmers.


No. Class files are not executable in the classic sense: they
are interpreted by java.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) said:

 Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 08:08:43 EDT
 
 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on  05/23/2006
 at 12:05 PM, David  Speake  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 The group in my shop  responsible for care and feeding of this product
 contend that the vendor  has told them that Since the product is LE
 compliant, it cannot write  into a dataset that has been generated by
 the IEFBR14  utility.
 
 In a message dated 5/24/2006 7:02:48 A.M. Central Daylight  Time,
 shmuel+ibm-[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 What are they smoking?
 
 It could be that the group in his shop OR the vendor is the one that's been
 smoking the cluelessness-inducing substance.  Or maybe both clusters.   I have
 encountered some clueless vendors.
 
o Find out whether it's the group in his shop or the vendor.

o If the vendor and the restriction explicitly cites IEFBR14,
  torment their tech support, repeatedly if necessary, with
  questions such as:

  If not IEFBR14, may I use a trivial invocation of some
  other program, such as IKJEFT01 with only LOGOFF
  in SYSTSIN, and DD DISP=NEW to create the data set?

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-24 Thread Shane
Seems to me most of the advice being offered is predicated on being able
to separate workload(s) to specific LPARs (CECs).

If you have a requirement to use service classes across disproportionate
CECs (say prod on both/all), then WLM is deficient.
Borked.
Broken As Designed.

Velocity, r/t, discretionary ... doesn't matter, it doesn't work as it
should.
I can construct WLM goals to achieve the results I want *MUCH* better on
a ring of monoplexes than I can on a (non-homogeneous) parallel sysplex.
IMHO doesn't say much for the WLM (sysplex) design.

Maybe I just don't understand WLM.
Maybe the people designing this stuff need to get out of the labs and
into customer sites.
Maybe I'm dreaming ...

Shane ...

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FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread willie bunter
I found the problem.  It was tucked away in the output listing:
   
  FDR309**  DDNAME=DISKONL2,VOL=SER=INST54 NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AUTO BACKUP
  
 
  Is there a way of posting an error message i.e. FDRxxxE instead?  I was able 
to find the problem only by looking at the EXCP counts for all the volumes in 
the JES output log.  Since the volume in question did not have any listed (it 
was blank in that column) I assumed that it was this volume which had the 
problem.  I was right for a change.
   
  For the future is there an easier way to find the error instead of looking 
EXCP counts?


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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-24 Thread McKown, John
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 I'm encountering
 

snip

  shell should NOT even attempt to run the file, what is with 
 that? That
  is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
 
 No, it's RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!

I guess that I was not plain. The standard shell, sh, should not have
even attempted to execute a file that does not have the execute bit on.
But it does try to execute it despite the lack of the execute bit being
on. That is what is WRONG. I agree that the file should not have the
execute bit on. And the javac compiler generates it correctly, without
the execute bit.

 
 As Peter mentioned above, the file does not need the execute
 bit set: it is not executable.

Agreed.

 
 What is executable is the JVM. So the java command must
 have the execute bit set; when you enter:
 
 java Howdy
 
 then the JVM runs and interprets the byte code in Howdy.class.
 
 It all makes {perfect | reasonable} sense.
 
 
 
snip

 
 No. Class files are not executable in the classic sense: they
 are interpreted by java.

Right. That is why the shell, sh, should not have even attempted to
execute the file when you only entered its name on the command prompt.
There is a bug in the standard shell, sh, if it tries to execute a
file which does not have the eXecute bit on.

 
 Kind regards,
 
 -Steve Comstock

The whole problem stemmed, IMO, from the shell trying to execute a file
which was not marked as executable. This is WRONG. And does not happen
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Re: Using PuTTY with otelnetd

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Art Celestini said:

 Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:10:17 -0400
 
 I cannot seem to find the right combination of PuTTY options and
 terminal emulation type to get the recall function to work.
 For telnetd on Lintel systems, this is the up-arrow.  The IBM
 Communications Server doc seems to suggest F1 or Esc-1 should do
 it for otelnetd, but I can get neither to work for me.
 
It appears that the recall you expect is a shell function.
Bash (prevalent on Lintel) supports up-arrow; z/OS shell doesn't
(not required by POSIX).  For z/OS, try:

set -o vi  # then
esck # to retrieve backward
escj # to retrieve forward.

These are vi-like.  There's also an emacs-like form if that's
your taste.

I believe bash has also been ported to z/OS.

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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
Willie, 

For the future is there an easier way to find the error instead of looking
EXCP counts? 

Don't print, leave in Q or save to a file. Do a search on FDR  toy will
get every FDR messages that was produced in your listing. 

After all It was tucked away in the output listing: the above will even
search in tucked away places.


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I found the problem.  It was tucked away in the output listing:
   
  FDR309**  DDNAME=DISKONL2,VOL=SER=INST54 NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AUTO BACKUP
  
 
  Is there a way of posting an error message i.e. FDRxxxE instead?  I was
able to find the problem only by looking at the EXCP counts for all the
volumes in the JES output log.  Since the volume in question did not have
any listed (it was blank in that column) I assumed that it was this volume
which had the problem.  I was right for a change.
   
  For the future is there an easier way to find the error instead of looking
EXCP counts?


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Re: IEFSCHAS increases mips consumption

2006-05-24 Thread Bill Neiman
On Tue, 23 May 2006 04:11:54 -0500, Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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last thursday I have detected an increase in mips consumption by IEFSCHAS,
XCFAS and GRS. I have revised all system changes and any seems to be
relationated with this strange behaviour. Who could be the bad boy?

Christian,

 IEFSCHAS handles cross-system ENF notifications.  The primary user of 
this function is GRS contention notification, which is consistent with 
your observation of increased CPU consumption in the associated address 
spaces.  Look for some application that is generating an increased amount 
of ENQ contention.

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Thomas Berg said:

 Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 05:51:41 +0200
 
 ==  Kirk Talman  ==  wrote2006-05-24 01:40:
  Call it a design issue.  There is no flag in the VTOC that says if the
  file has data in it.
 
 Well, even an empty can has a bottom, so why can't a file ?
 
There's DS1LSTAR.  But there was a design blunder.  It _should_
have been the behavior ever since release 1 of OS/360 that any
attempt to READ beyond DS1LSTAR should cause EODAD to be invoked.
This test should have been incorporated in the access method,
not left as the responsibility of the application programmer.

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Re: Using PuTTY with otelnetd

2006-05-24 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


In a recent note, Art Celestini said:

 


Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:10:17 -0400

I cannot seem to find the right combination of PuTTY options and
terminal emulation type to get the recall function to work.
For telnetd on Lintel systems, this is the up-arrow.  The IBM
Communications Server doc seems to suggest F1 or Esc-1 should do
it for otelnetd, but I can get neither to work for me.

   


It appears that the recall you expect is a shell function.
Bash (prevalent on Lintel) supports up-arrow; z/OS shell doesn't
(not required by POSIX).  For z/OS, try:

   set -o vi  # then
   esck # to retrieve backward
   escj # to retrieve forward.

These are vi-like.  There's also an emacs-like form if that's
your taste.

I believe bash has also been ported to z/OS.

-- gil
 


Hi

We use set  -o emacs
and the controlp for PREVIOUS  with  putty 0.58 and z/Os 1.5 and 1.7

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Re: A little more insight on the Java strangeness I'm encountering

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Comstock

McKown, John wrote:


snip

shell should NOT even attempt to run the file, what is with 


that? That


is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!


No, it's RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!



I guess that I was not plain. The standard shell, sh, should not have
even attempted to execute a file that does not have the execute bit on.
But it does try to execute it despite the lack of the execute bit being
on. That is what is WRONG. I agree that the file should not have the
execute bit on. And the javac compiler generates it correctly, without
the execute bit.



Ah, now I see your point. And I agree with it.
Thanks for the extra clarification.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread John Dawes
Rex,
   
 EUREKA !!!   It worked.  Thanks to you and all who have helped me.  As they 
say in the U.K. the problem was a sticky wicket 
   
  Thanks to IBM-Main audience.


Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Found it!

We were still 1 right paren short. Replace the BY line with the
following:

BY((CREDT LT (*,-1)) (DSORG NE VSAM))) - 

Also, when I discovered the problem, my test then complained about
having DASD concatenated. You will need to either put separate DD
statements in for each VOLSER or use catalog processing and skip the
volser allocations. If you want to set it up with multiple volsers,
just use:

LOGINDDNAME(DASD1 DASD2 DASD3)

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Art Celestini said:

 Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:18:02 -0400
 
 If I am not mistaken, if you allocate on an SMS-managed volume
 and specify enough DCB attributes so that SMS knows that it is
 intended to be a SAM data set, SMS will write an EOF at the
 beginning of the first track and correspondingly set DS1LSTAR.
 I seem to recall this as one of the features that SMS provided
 when it first came out.
 
Underreaching.  Why the restriction to SAM?  Allocation ought to
write EOF whenever a NEW primary extent is allocated, regardless
of known or unknown DSORG.

The one possible exception is when the programmer requests an
absolute track address (is this even supported nowadays?),
since that might be an attempt to recover data after a DSCB
was lost, and writing the EOF might obliterate the data.

I'm more tolerant of the restriction to SMS; not all new
enhancements should be retrofitted to obsolete functions.

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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread John Dawes
Terry,
   
  I have kept your jcl handy.  Thanks for your suggestion.  I will try it out 
as well.

Terry Sambrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi John,

I saw your posts yesterday but believed it would be resolved before I could 
respond.

I played about with your command input and changed from this:

//SYSIN DD * 
DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.** - 
MED*.** - 
X*.** - 
Y*.** - 
Z*.** - 
SRT.** - 
SYS*.** - 
TEMP.** - 
*SYSUT*.**) - 

To this

DUMP LIDD(DASD) OUTDD(TAPE) - 
OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 
TOL(ENQF) - 
DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**, - 
MED*.**, - 
X*.**, - 
Y*.**, - 
Z*.**, - 
SRT.**, - 
SYS*.**, - 
TEMP.**, - 
*SYSUT*.**) - 
BY((CREDT,LT,(*,-1)),(DSORG,NE,(VSAM 


It clear all command errors..

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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread willie bunter
Kevin,
   
  I had the listing in the queue.  I did the find FDR, since the job was 
backing up 130 volumes my search found lots of FDR.  
   
  Hopefully Bruce and his FDR team could suggest something.

Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Willie, 

For the future is there an easier way to find the error instead of looking
EXCP counts? 

Don't print, leave in Q or save to a file. Do a search on FDR toy will
get every FDR messages that was produced in your listing. 

After all It was tucked away in the output listing: the above will even
search in tucked away places.


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Subject: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998


I found the problem. It was tucked away in the output listing:

FDR309** DDNAME=DISKONL2,VOL=SER=INST54 NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AUTO BACKUP


Is there a way of posting an error message i.e. FDRxxxE instead? I was
able to find the problem only by looking at the EXCP counts for all the
volumes in the JES output log. Since the volume in question did not have
any listed (it was blank in that column) I assumed that it was this volume
which had the problem. I was right for a change.

For the future is there an easier way to find the error instead of looking
EXCP counts?


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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread willie bunter
Hopefully Bruce and his team can suggest something.  For now, I have made a 
note to search for NOT and * * as well as FDR309

Richard Pinion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It would be nice, I've encounted 
similar situations. Our joblogs go to CA-Dispatach which slows down the process 
even more.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/24/2006 9:24:27 AM 
I found the problem. It was tucked away in the output listing:

FDR309** DDNAME=DISKONL2,VOL=SER=INST54 NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AUTO BACKUP


Is there a way of posting an error message i.e. FDRxxxE instead? I was able to 
find the problem only by looking at the EXCP counts for all the volumes in the 
JES output log. Since the volume in question did not have any listed (it was 
blank in that column) I assumed that it was this volume which had the problem. 
I was right for a change.

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Re: Using PuTTY with otelnetd

2006-05-24 Thread Art Celestini
Thanks guys.  It didn't dawn on me that it could be a shell issue.
Both methods work for me now.  I'll have to read up on the set 
command to learn more about it.

Art


At 09:43 AM 5/24/2006, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
  
Paul Gilmartin wrote:

In a recent note, Art Celestini said:

 

Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:10:17 -0400

I cannot seem to find the right combination of PuTTY options and
terminal emulation type to get the recall function to work.
For telnetd on Lintel systems, this is the up-arrow.  The IBM
Communications Server doc seems to suggest F1 or Esc-1 should do
it for otelnetd, but I can get neither to work for me.

   
It appears that the recall you expect is a shell function.
Bash (prevalent on Lintel) supports up-arrow; z/OS shell doesn't
(not required by POSIX).  For z/OS, try:

   set -o vi  # then
   esck # to retrieve backward
   escj # to retrieve forward.

These are vi-like.  There's also an emacs-like form if that's
your taste.

I believe bash has also been ported to z/OS.

-- gil
 
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and the controlp for PREVIOUS  with  putty 0.58 and z/Os 1.5 and 1.7

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I can construct WLM goals to achieve the results I want *MUCH* better on a 
ring of monoplexes than I can on a (non-homogeneous) parallel sysplex.


I've been using WLM since January 1999, and I have never had a homogeneous plex.
Nor, have I had all the problems that everybody is talking about.
These are 3-4000 MIPS plex's, with IMS, DB2, CICS, TSO, MQ  Batch.

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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, John S. Giltner, Jr. said:

 Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:26:58 -0400
 
 It also says:
 
 3. If the BLKSIZE value is omitted or invalid, SMP/E uses a default of 3200.
 
I omitted that bullet deliberately.  I believe IBM has been known to
accept APARs on other products that similarly thwarted the operation
of SDB.  The Rexx interpreter comes to mind.

 So I would assume that it is looking at the blocksize prior to open time
 to verify that it is a valid size.  Since 0 is sort of not really valid,
 it should default to 3200.
 
Well, 0 _is_ a multiple of 80, so then don't even need to test for
it as a special case.  Just divide and verify the remainder is 0.

 But you would have to figure after over a decade of SDB that somebody
 could have easily added a check for 0 and use that.  Could be that the
 SMP/E developers don't beleive that SDB will generate a valid block size
 for FB/80?
 
Well, since not everybody uses FB/80, they might have assumed that
case was not sufficiently exercised in the field to be trustworthy.

Isn't 3200 the limit of Linkage Editor's SYSLIN?  They might have
feared that SDB's default half-track allocation would break the
Linkage Editor utility.

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SV: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Thomas Berg
 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Paul Gilmartin
 Skickat: den 24 maj 2006 15:43
 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Ämne: Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3
 
 
 In a recent note, Thomas Berg said:
 
  Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 05:51:41 +0200
  
  ==  Kirk Talman  ==  wrote2006-05-24 01:40:
   Call it a design issue.  There is no flag in the VTOC 
 that says if 
   the file has data in it.
  
  Well, even an empty can has a bottom, so why can't a file ?
  
 There's DS1LSTAR.  But there was a design blunder.  It 
 _should_ have been the behavior ever since release 1 of 
 OS/360 that any attempt to READ beyond DS1LSTAR should cause 
 EODAD to be invoked. This test should have been incorporated 
 in the access method, not left as the responsibility of the 
 application programmer.
 

Yes.  There is many inconsistenses/logical fallacys in MVS aka z/OS that 
generates endless problems.
One example is this thread.  Either does a dataset exist.  Or not.
If it exist it should be readable regardless if it is empty or not.

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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-24 Thread Frank Yaeger
John Chase wrote on 05/24/2006 06:06:19 AM:

 We combine all four environments for DFSORT into a single USERMOD now.
 No problems.  We don't yet make enough use of ICETOOL to change any of
 the delivered defaults, but when that time comes I expect we'll code
 just one USERMOD for its four environments, too.

ICETOOL doesn't have separate environments.  JCL covers direct invocation
of DFSORT (e.g. PGM=ICEMAN).  INV covers program invocation of DFSORT.  TSO
and TSOINV cover TSO.  ICETOOL's use of DFSORT is covered by the INV
environment. The TD1-TD4 environments allow you to modify the other
environments to cover time-of-day changes.

For complete details, see z/OS DFSORT Installation and Customization.
Here's a link to the relevant info:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CI00/2.2?DT=20031124122307


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Re: JES2 Exit 52 woes in z/OS 1.7

2006-05-24 Thread Karl Grombach
I had this problem too. As a bypass, until OA14774 is closed, I used the 
macro $RMSGQUE to put an error message into the joblog. It's also used in 
the sample exit HASX54A in SHASSAMP. 

Karl Grombach 

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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-24 Thread Frank Yaeger
Christian Blesa wrote on 05/22/2006 07:14:28 AM:

 I'm revising DFSORT and I have had a look to SMF16 records and only shows

 statistics of executed jobs but it not shows statistics DFSORT use by
 Started Tasks.

 I have revised ICEIEXIT/ICETEXIT and I don't see anything.

 Could you help me?

For closure on the original problem:  Christian sent David the information
requested and David determined that an SMF=NO run-time option was used to
override the SMF=FULL intallation default.  Hence, no SMF16 records.

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Re: ADR120E - DFDSS Error

2006-05-24 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand

At 01:32 PM 05/23/2006, John Dawes wrote:
I am attempting to back up some files using DFDSS.  I receve the 
error ADR120E because of  TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '-1'
Can you suggest a correction.  What I am attempting to do is backup 
files from certain volumes.  However, I want only to backup files 
that are less than 1 day old and must NOT be VSAM.  Below is a copy 
of my control cards.


  DUMP  DATASET(INCLUDE(IST*.**-
MED*.**   -
X*.** -
Y*.** -
Z*.** -
SRT.**-
SYS*.**   -
TEMP.**   -
*SYSUT*.**)  -
BY(CREDT,LT,*,-1,DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -
LOGINDDNAME(DASD) -
OUTDD(TAPE) OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP -
TOL(ENQF)

  Thanks to all in advance.



You are missing a paren in your BY statement.  It should read:
BY((CREDT,LT,*,-1) (DSORG,NE,VSAM)) -

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Re: 'Problem' with EXPDT on SynchSort SORTOUT

2006-05-24 Thread Frank Yaeger
Jan Vanbrabant wrote on 05/24/2006 05:10:16 AM:

Frank (Yaeger),
Any idea how the IBM DFSORT handles this?

Jan,

I ran the following job with DFSORT which I think is equivalent to what
you're doing.  The expiration date was shown for the TEST2 data set, but
not for the TEST1 data set.

//S0010EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//IN0001   DD  DUMMY
//UT0001   DD  DSN=Y897797.JANV1.TEST1,
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,(5,5)),
//RECFM=FB,LRECL=133
//SYSINDD  *
 REPRO IFILE(IN0001)  OFILE(UT0001)
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//S0020EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//IN0001   DD  DUMMY
//UT0001   DD  DSN=Y897797.JANV1.TEST2,
//DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,(5,5)),
//RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,EXPDT=2006/350
//SYSINDD  *
 REPRO IFILE(IN0001)  OFILE(UT0001)
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//S1EXEC  PGM=ICEMAN
//SYSOUTDD  SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD *
RECORD 1
RECORD 2
//SORTOUT DD DSN=Y897797.JANV1.TEST1,DISP=OLD,EXPDT=2006/350
//SYSINDD*
  OPTION COPY
/*

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Bruce Black


If I am not mistaken, if you allocate on an SMS-managed volume
and specify enough DCB attributes so that SMS knows that it is 
intended to be a SAM data set, SMS will write an EOF at the

beginning of the first track and correspondingly set DS1LSTAR.
I seem to recall this as one of the features that SMS provided
when it first came out.
Art, I believe you are right, but I can never remember the exact rules 
to get the EOF written.  I searched the FMs once, but I don't think it 
is documented.


but actually DS1LSTAR is still zero in that case.  the EOF is record 1, 
so the last data block is record 0.  You can't tell the difference 
from LSTAR. 

As for Gil's suggestion that the access method should not allow you to 
read past LSTAR, in the past it was not uncommon for LSTAR to be 
inaccurate.  It is updated at CLOSE but if CLOSE fails or system crashes 
or whatever, the DSCB may not get updated.  There may be lots of valid 
data past the LSTAR.  Not so common today but can happen.


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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread Bruce Black
Willie, most FDR error messages have the double asterisk after them, 
e.g., FDR309**, as you saw.  This is documented in the start of sec 100 
(messages) of the manual


In ISPF browse and edit, you can use this to search for error messages

FIND  P'FDR###**'

Try it

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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread Richard Pinion
Dang, learn something new everyday!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/24/2006 11:13:41 AM 
Willie, most FDR error messages have the double asterisk after them, 
e.g., FDR309**, as you saw.  This is documented in the start of sec 100 
(messages) of the manual

In ISPF browse and edit, you can use this to search for error messages

FIND  P'FDR###**'

Try it

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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread Ed Gould

On May 23, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


I read:

#4.41 SMP/E V3R4.0 Reference
  
___


4.41 SMPWRK1

   Notes:

   2. Do not specify BLKSIZE=0. SMP/E does not support system- 
determined

  block size (SDB) for this data set.

Why?  Would it be any better if the programmer specified explicitly
the same value that SDB would happen to choose?

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Gil,

This is only a guess but I think SMPe passes the ddname to several  
different utilities (ie HEWL IEV90 (and others)) so I don't think its  
a matter of SMPe not working correctly one of the other utilities may  
not.


Ed

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Re: FDR MESSAGE - FDR998

2006-05-24 Thread willie bunter
Thanks Bruce.  I will try it out.  Can the FDR group come up with another 
section where the failed volume will be flagged?  This way it could be easier 
to zero in on the problem.  Now, only a list of the successful volumes that 
have been backed up appear on the list.

Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Willie, most FDR error messages have 
the double asterisk after them, 
e.g., FDR309**, as you saw. This is documented in the start of sec 100 
(messages) of the manual

In ISPF browse and edit, you can use this to search for error messages

FIND P'FDR###**'

Try it

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JES Control Blocks

2006-05-24 Thread Smith, Sean M
I am working on copying and modifying some of our JES exits to operate
in the new exits with z/OS 1.7.  The problem that I am running into is
that the current exits refer to control blocks that I believe I do not
have access to from the user address space (for example the PCE).
However, I have not found any documentation that shows exactly what you
do and do not have access to from the user address space.

Does anyone know of any documentation that outlines what is and what is
not accessible from the user address space?

I have a printed copy of the JES2 z/OS 1.7 Exit Migration Guide and have
read several of the Share presentations.

Sean Smith
Bank of America

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Re: JES Control Blocks

2006-05-24 Thread Rob Scott
I would advise the use of the JES2 Data Areas books - all the needed
info is in there 


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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: JES Control Blocks

I am working on copying and modifying some of our JES exits to operate
in the new exits with z/OS 1.7.  The problem that I am running into is
that the current exits refer to control blocks that I believe I do not
have access to from the user address space (for example the PCE).
However, I have not found any documentation that shows exactly what you
do and do not have access to from the user address space.

Does anyone know of any documentation that outlines what is and what is
not accessible from the user address space?

I have a printed copy of the JES2 z/OS 1.7 Exit Migration Guide and have
read several of the Share presentations.

Sean Smith
Bank of America

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Re: JES2 Exit 52 woes in z/OS 1.7

2006-05-24 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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OA14774 definitely looks to hit the nail on the head and we are actively
tracking it.  We are also investigating the $RMSGQUE that Karl Grombach
mentioned and which was further explained in an offline message.

Thanks to all for their help,

Jim Horne
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Bob Rutledge wrote:
Might it be OA14774?

Karl Grombach wrote:
I had this problem too. As a bypass, until OA14774 is closed, I used the
macro $RMSGQUE to put an error message into the joblog. It's also used
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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread Ray Mullins
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 Sent: Wednesday May 24 2006 00:10
 
 I think it's typical for IBM. Examples:

snip

 2. DB2 doesn't (wasn't) check RACF profile when 
 started/closed. Effect: 
 everybody (who can issue operator commands) can kill DB2. The 
 same person can be strictly controlled when i.e. using 
 DISPLAY command, he could be authorized to D SMF, but not D 
 IPLINFO. But not -dsn STOP DB2.

This sort of makes sense, though, if you think about how the command is
being processed.  DB2 commands are routed via the SSI prefix character(s),
so my take is that this occurs before MVS command SAF (being generic, here)
checking.  If DB2 did things right (ahem) and used MODIFY (like many other
data base, TP monitor, and server products), then SAF could protect through
the command facility (thou shalt not perform MODIFY against *MSTR, for
example).  But because it's the way it is, you have to GRANT/REVOKE in DB2,
which puts what I consider not-part-of-data-access-management security in
the hands of the DBA, rather than the security administrator.  (Disclaimer:
I've worn the security administrator hat a couple of times in my career.
Caveat utor.)

 3. IND$FILE also uses BLKSIZE of 3200/6160.
 There are more examples like the above.

At one time, the linkage editor was very touchy about block sizes  3200
unless you played games with PARM SIZE= and REGION.  For many years the
distributed compiler procs used block sizes of 3120, which also relates to
some of the early TSO defaults for block sizes for 2314? 3330? DASDs
(efficiency, you know - anyone got a 2314 or 3330 card lying around?)

Later,
Ray

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cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread McKown, John
We have a z890 (2086 capacity 250). We also have an IFL on this box. We
are not using the IFL (don't ask, I'll whine). I would like to convert
the IFL to a zAAP. I cannot see if this is possible, or how much it may
cost. Anybody know how I can find this information, WITHOUT TALKING TO
IBM SALES. Talking to sales is: (1) not within my authority; (2)
frustrating. But I'm trying to sell this to my team leader to bump it up
the line. If that looks possible, then I need to sell using Java for
some things to our applications people. We are very legacy on z/OS
(basically if it ain't COBOL, we don't use it in house).

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CA Unicenter Solve Operation and zOS 1.7

2006-05-24 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi all,

I would like to know if any of you who have migrated to zOS 1.7 is using CA
Unicenter Solve Operation 5.0.
We are having a problem with this software and want to know if it happens
only  here or this is a
general situation. 

Our problem does not occur everytime and is related to NETMAGDB enqueue that
hangs Solve startup until 
we drain the INITIATOR that is holding this ENQ (Yes, INITIATOR). 

CA has said that it's related to SMF exits issueing WTOs which intervenes
with DEQ process, but AFAIK
there is no IBM program that issues this ENQ.

TIA   


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

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Re: fewer/faster vs more/slower in same plex

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 24 May 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can construct WLM goals to achieve the results I want *MUCH* better on a
ring of monoplexes than I can on a (non-homogeneous) parallel sysplex.


I've been using WLM since January 1999, and I have never had a homogeneous
plex.
Nor, have I had all the problems that everybody is talking about.
These are 3-4000 MIPS plex's, with IMS, DB2, CICS, TSO, MQ  Batch.


Pretty much the same here, but I have used response goals for CICS and
DDF and many times I have had DB2 regions in SYSSTC (no goal) or different
velocities by LPARs since that was allowed in OS/390 2.10. The problem
has been batch.   I've handled that by classifying by JES2 MAS at
times (again, since OS/390 R10 for systems in the same sysplex
with their own spools) but that has only helped me on a few 
occasions.  

Even now I have all z9s but one z900 as a penalty box to runs a certain
unnamed software package that charges up the you know what.  Of course
the production jobs on the z900 don't achieve the velocity they do on the
z9 LPARs in the plex, but I have the velocity low enough where goals 
are met.  Most of the batch runs at night when there is exta cycles
anyway (the z900 LPAR only runs batch for the most part, not CICS/DB2/IMS).

I admit I have never tried percentile goals for batch as Tom suggested,
but I'm not sure what benefit I would get from specifying an 
unagressive response goal versus an unagressive velocity goal.  
I can guarantee that many less jobs can end in a given time on my
z900 LPAR with 1 or 2 CPs than my z9 LPARs with 4 or 5 CPs.

So I guess I sort of agree with Shane, but not when it comes to response
goals for CICS and DDF. 

Regards,

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Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-24 Thread Wayne Driscoll
While I am not sure exactly what the AI refers to, when I looked up that
particular PTF, I noticed that it has been changed to 
  PTF 97084 IS NOW AVAILABLE - - -SUP-UY99455-F310

Which indicates that the PTF has been superceded by a subsequent fix to one
or more of the MODULES/MACROS that are impacted by this PTF.  My guess is
that AI indicates that an APAR that may have an impact on this PTF is under
investigation, but again, this is just a guess.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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Wayn, can you help with with this one also.  I just came across it.
   
  PTF 97084 IS NOW AVAILABLE -  -AI-   -

  What would be the meaning of the AI.
   
  Thanks.

Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howard,
Yes, the PE indicates that the PTF has an ERROR APAR opened against it, and
as such should probably not be applied. However, to make that decision,
your installation will have to weigh the impact of not having the fix for
the original APAR against the potential impact of the exposed error. Again,
in general, it is not reccomended that you apply PE PTF's, but in certain
circumstances, it may be required.
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PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

Does the above mean that ptf UA24187 is in error and should not be applied?

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Re: JES Control Blocks

2006-05-24 Thread Smith, Sean M
Thanks for the tip.  I was looking in the z/OS 1.7 Library Center under
JES2 and the manuals are not there (they are in the z/OS 1.5 Library
Center), nor were they delivered on the CD.  Have the manuals moved or
does IBM need to follow-up and put these online for z/OS 1.7?

Sean

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I would advise the use of the JES2 Data Areas books - all the needed
info is in there 


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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: JES Control Blocks

I am working on copying and modifying some of our JES exits to operate
in the new exits with z/OS 1.7.  The problem that I am running into is
that the current exits refer to control blocks that I believe I do not
have access to from the user address space (for example the PCE).
However, I have not found any documentation that shows exactly what you
do and do not have access to from the user address space.

Does anyone know of any documentation that outlines what is and what is
not accessible from the user address space?

I have a printed copy of the JES2 z/OS 1.7 Exit Migration Guide and have
read several of the Share presentations.

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Bank of America

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Re: SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB

2006-05-24 Thread R.S.

Ray Mullins wrote:


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I think it's typical for IBM. Examples:



snip

2. DB2 doesn't (wasn't) check RACF profile when 
started/closed. Effect: 
everybody (who can issue operator commands) can kill DB2. The 
same person can be strictly controlled when i.e. using 
DISPLAY command, he could be authorized to D SMF, but not D 
IPLINFO. But not -dsn STOP DB2.



This sort of makes sense, though, if you think about how the command is
being processed.  

[...]
No, it doesn't. I know more or less how it's being processed. Simply I 
don't care. I bought z/OS, RACF and DB2 from same company. It's not safe 
(disclaimer: I was told it's fixed in v8). For example JES commands are 
processed in similar way, but RACF protected. OK, I don't insist on 
RACF, let it be interally (in DB2) protected, via some GRANT. But it's 
not. It's open for everyone.






3. IND$FILE also uses BLKSIZE of 3200/6160.
There are more examples like the above.



At one time, the linkage editor was very touchy about block sizes  3200
unless you played games with PARM SIZE= and REGION.  


Yes, at one time. 20 years ago ? Is there anything to add here ?

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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
John,
My understanding is ZAAP's are only available on Z9's

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We have a z890 (2086 capacity 250). We also have an IFL on this box. We
are not using the IFL (don't ask, I'll whine). I would like to convert
the IFL to a zAAP. I cannot see if this is possible, or how much it may
cost. Anybody know how I can find this information, WITHOUT TALKING TO
IBM SALES. Talking to sales is: (1) not within my authority; (2)
frustrating. But I'm trying to sell this to my team leader to bump it up
the line. If that looks possible, then I need to sell using Java for
some things to our applications people. We are very legacy on z/OS
(basically if it ain't COBOL, we don't use it in house).

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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Tom Harper
Jeff,

We have an IFL and a zAAP processor, and we are running a z/890.

Tom Harper

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My understanding is ZAAP's are only available on Z9's

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are not using the IFL (don't ask, I'll whine). I would like to convert
the IFL to a zAAP. I cannot see if this is possible, or how much it may
cost. Anybody know how I can find this information, WITHOUT TALKING TO
IBM SALES. Talking to sales is: (1) not within my authority; (2)
frustrating. But I'm trying to sell this to my team leader to bump it up
the line. If that looks possible, then I need to sell using Java for
some things to our applications people. We are very legacy on z/OS
(basically if it ain't COBOL, we don't use it in house).

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Doug Henry
Bruce, 
Here are the places where SMS writing an EOF is documented. 

z/OS V1R7.0 DFSMS Using Data Sets

 When the system allocates a new SMS data set with DSORG=PS or no DSORG, 
the access methods treat the data set as being null, that is, having no 
data. A program can safely read the data set before data has been written 
in it. This means the first GET or first CHECK for a READ causes the EODAD 
routine to be called.

z/OS V1R7.0 DFSMS: Implementing System-Managed Storage

 For sequential data sets, SMS writes a hardware EOF at the beginning of 
the data set at initial allocation. This prevents data integrity problems 
when applications try to read the data before data is written in the data 
set. 

Doug 


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Art, I believe you are right, but I can never remember the exact rules
to get the EOF written.  I searched the FMs once, but I don't think it
is documented.

but actually DS1LSTAR is still zero in that case.  the EOF is record 1,
so the last data block is record 0.  You can't tell the difference
from LSTAR.

As for Gil's suggestion that the access method should not allow you to
read past LSTAR, in the past it was not uncommon for LSTAR to be
inaccurate.  It is updated at CLOSE but if CLOSE fails or system crashes
or whatever, the DSCB may not get updated.  There may be lots of valid
data past the LSTAR.  Not so common today but can happen.

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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   at 07:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Underreaching.  Why the restriction to SAM?  Allocation ought to
write EOF whenever a NEW primary extent is allocated, regardless of
known or unknown DSORG.

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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
zAAPs are available on z9, z990, and z890.

Best Regards, 

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John,
My understanding is ZAAP's are only available on Z9's

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Re: DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok)

2006-05-24 Thread Christian Blesa
Hello

Thank you very much for your help. Our DBA colleagues will change this 
option next days and we will revise SMF16 again.

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Jeff Ruegsegger
Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the module 
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the one in 
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA and 
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my versionThe 
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.  My 
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.  I 
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy version 
should be getting control but that is not the case. 

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Re: JES Control Blocks

2006-05-24 Thread Rob Scott
I must admit that the ones I have on the LAN are the z/OS 1.5 ones

I haven't researched getting more up to date ones.

If all else fails - there is your SHASMAC dataset ! 


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Thanks for the tip.  I was looking in the z/OS 1.7 Library Center under
JES2 and the manuals are not there (they are in the z/OS 1.5 Library
Center), nor were they delivered on the CD.  Have the manuals moved or
does IBM need to follow-up and put these online for z/OS 1.7?

Sean

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I would advise the use of the JES2 Data Areas books - all the needed
info is in there 


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Subject: JES Control Blocks

I am working on copying and modifying some of our JES exits to operate
in the new exits with z/OS 1.7.  The problem that I am running into is
that the current exits refer to control blocks that I believe I do not
have access to from the user address space (for example the PCE).
However, I have not found any documentation that shows exactly what you
do and do not have access to from the user address space.

Does anyone know of any documentation that outlines what is and what is
not accessible from the user address space?

I have a printed copy of the JES2 z/OS 1.7 Exit Migration Guide and have
read several of the Share presentations.

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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
I stand corrected. Thanks

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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:41:30 -0500, Jeff Ruegsegger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the module
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the one in
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA and
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my versionThe
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.  My
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.  I
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy version
should be getting control but that is not the case.


What does ISRDDN BROWSE or MEMBER NAME command show you?  Also,
try MXI LPD command (Link Pack Directory Entries) if you have MXI.

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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
zAAPs are available on z890 and z990.  I believe it is zIIPs that are
only available on z9.

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John,
My understanding is ZAAP's are only available on Z9's

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We have a z890 (2086 capacity 250). We also have an IFL on this box. We
are not using the IFL (don't ask, I'll whine). I would like to convert
the IFL to a zAAP. I cannot see if this is possible, or how much it may
cost. Anybody know how I can find this information, WITHOUT TALKING TO
IBM SALES. Talking to sales is: (1) not within my authority; (2)
frustrating. But I'm trying to sell this to my team leader to bump it up
the line. If that looks possible, then I need to sell using Java for
some things to our applications people. We are very legacy on z/OS
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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

CBT File 311 from Dave Alcock has FINDMOD which is my favorite load
module search tool.

http://www.cbttape.org/

http://www.planetmvs.com/

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Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the 
module in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and

the one in PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find 
one in MLPA and when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find 
my versionThe strangeness about it is that I know my good version 
is being executed.  My non SMS allocations are working as designed by 
my version of IGGPRE00.  I cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what 
I'm finding, the dummy version should be getting control but that is
not the case.


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Re: cost of a CPU side-grade

2006-05-24 Thread Marian Gasparovic

Correct.
It is easy to remember, each 'line' brought new type of processor during time

IFL - z900+
zAAP - z990+
zIIP - z9+

On 5/24/06, Kittendorf, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

zAAPs are available on z890 and z990.  I believe it is zIIPs that are
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Re: IGGPRE00

2006-05-24 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Hi Mark,
ISRFIND shows
 -PLPA-  IGGPRE00 LOC=04310EF8 LEN=0008 EP=84310EF8 MLPDE=
   
  LPALST   
 SYS1.LPALIB  IGGPRE00 
 LINKLST  
SYS1.LINKLIB  
SYS1.MIGLIB   
SYS1.CSSLIB   
TCPIP.SEZALOAD
SYS1.AVNET.VTAMLIB
SYS1.AVNT.LINKLIBIGGPRE00

The module in LINKLIB is the correct one and in fact is the one being
used.  I just don't understand why..From above I would think the
dummy version is the one being used.

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On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:41:30 -0500, Jeff Ruegsegger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sam,
Thanks for th pointer!  However like I said I am in fact MLPAing the
module
in but when I run an ISRFIND I find it in PLPA only not MLPA and the
one in
PLPA is the dummy module(length 8).  ISRFIND doesn't find one in MLPA
and
when I scan MLPA (E-MLPA and MLPA) I cant seem to find my
versionThe
strangeness about it is that I know my good version is being executed.
My
non SMS allocations are working as designed by my version of IGGPRE00.
I
cant seem to figure out why.  Based on what I'm finding, the dummy
version
should be getting control but that is not the case.


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try MXI LPD command (Link Pack Directory Entries) if you have MXI.

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Stopping DB2 (was SMP/E SMPWRK* vs. SDB)

2006-05-24 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Radoslaw,
There is a simple solution to resolving the -stop db2 issue.  Don't allow
people who have no business accessing a console, be it via a real console,
an EMCS console (including SDSF) or any other approach.
Wayne Driscoll
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Ray Mullins wrote:

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I think it's typical for IBM. Examples:
 
 
 snip
 
2. DB2 doesn't (wasn't) check RACF profile when started/closed. 
Effect:
everybody (who can issue operator commands) can kill DB2. The same 
person can be strictly controlled when i.e. using DISPLAY command, he 
could be authorized to D SMF, but not D IPLINFO. But not -dsn STOP 
DB2.
 
 
 This sort of makes sense, though, if you think about how the command 
 is being processed.
[...]
No, it doesn't. I know more or less how it's being processed. Simply I don't
care. I bought z/OS, RACF and DB2 from same company. It's not safe
(disclaimer: I was told it's fixed in v8). For example JES commands are
processed in similar way, but RACF protected. OK, I don't insist on RACF,
let it be interally (in DB2) protected, via some GRANT. But it's not. It's
open for everyone.

 
 
3. IND$FILE also uses BLKSIZE of 3200/6160.
There are more examples like the above.
 
 
 At one time, the linkage editor was very touchy about block sizes  
 3200 unless you played games with PARM SIZE= and REGION.

Yes, at one time. 20 years ago ? Is there anything to add here ?

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DFSORT NULLOUT default (was DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok))

2006-05-24 Thread Greg Shirey
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ICETOOL doesn't have separate environments.  JCL covers direct invocation
of DFSORT (e.g. PGM=ICEMAN).  INV covers program invocation of DFSORT.  TSO
and TSOINV cover TSO.  ICETOOL's use of DFSORT is covered by the INV
environment. The TD1-TD4 environments allow you to modify the other
environments to cover time-of-day changes.

Since my shop doesn't modify the DFSORT defaults, I hadn't realized what INV
meant.  Frank's explanation raises a question for me about the new parm
NULLOUT.  

The fine manual states that NULLOUT can specify the return code and the
action to be taken by DFSORT when there are no records for the SORTOUT data
set, as indicated by the OUT count of 0 in message ICE054I.  The FM goes on
to state that NULLOUT does not apply when SORTOUT is not present.  

To me, this indicates that NULLOUT couldn't apply to a COBOL program
performing a sort (or maybe even ICETOOL), though the default could be
modified for the INV environment.  Is that right?  Or what if the COBOL
program was using a DD of SORTOUT for the output data set?  Would it apply
then? 

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Re: PTF 24187 IS NOW AVAILABLE -PE- - -

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Thomen
Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Wayn, can you help with with this one also.  I just came across it.

   PTF 97084 IS NOW AVAILABLE -  -AI-   -

   What would be the meaning of the AI.

Additional Information


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Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development

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Re: DFSORT NULLOUT default (was DFSORT: SMF16 (jobs ok, stcs nok))

2006-05-24 Thread Frank Yaeger
Greg Shirey wrote on 05/24/2006 10:27:14 AM:

 Since my shop doesn't modify the DFSORT defaults, I hadn't realized what
INV
 meant.  Frank's explanation raises a question for me about the new parm
 NULLOUT.

 The fine manual states that NULLOUT can specify the return code and the
 action to be taken by DFSORT when there are no records for the SORTOUT
data
 set, as indicated by the OUT count of 0 in message ICE054I.  The FM goes
on
 to state that NULLOUT does not apply when SORTOUT is not present.

 To me, this indicates that NULLOUT couldn't apply to a COBOL program
 performing a sort (or maybe even ICETOOL), though the default could be
 modified for the INV environment.  Is that right?  Or what if the COBOL
 program was using a DD of SORTOUT for the output data set?  Would it
apply
 then?

Note that SORTOUT is used generically to mean the regular output data set
(as opposed to an OUTFIL output data set).  It actually refers to the
ddname specified or defaulted for SORTOUT=ddname.  The default is SORTOUT,
but it could be another ddname.  For example, when you use COPY TO(OUT) ...
for ICETOOL, the ddname for SORTOUT is OUT and INV NULLOUT applies.

NULLOUT applies whenever DFSORT is writing the SORTOUT data set.  For a
COBOL sort, DFSORT writes the SORTOUT data set if FASTSRT is in effect for
the output data set.  Otherwise, COBOL handles ('deletes') all of the
output with its E35 routine and DFSORT doesn't write to SORTOUT.  In the
FASTSRT case, INV NULLOUT would apply because DFSORT writes the SORTOUT
data set.  In the NOFASTSRT case, INV NULLOUT wouldn't apply because there
is no SORTOUT data set as far as DFSORT is concerned.

For ICETOOL, it depends on the operator.  In general, if you use
TO(ddname), then INV NULLOUT applies.

Note that NULLOUT does not apply to OUTFIL output data sets, but you can
specify the NULLOFL parameter on each OUTFIL statement to apply to the
output data sets associated with that OUTFIL statement.  For example, if
you had:

//TOOLIN DD *
SELECT FROM(IN) TO(OUT) ON(5,2,CH) NODUPS
/*

OUT is a SORTOUT output data set and INV NULLOUT applies.

But if you had:

//TOOLIN DD *
SELECT FROM(IN) TO(OUT) ON(5,2,CH) NODUPS USING(CTL1)
//CTL1CNTL DD *
  OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT,OMIT=(21,2,CH,EQ,C'AB')
/*

OUT is an OUTFIL data set and INV NULLOUT does not apply.

However, you could specify:

//TOOLIN DD *
SELECT FROM(IN) TO(OUT) ON(5,2,CH) NODUPS USING(CTL1)
//CTL1CNTL DD *
  OUTFIL FNAMES=OUT,OMIT=(21,2,CH,EQ,C'AB'),NULLOFL=RC16
/*

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration

 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
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SAP on The Mainframe

2006-05-24 Thread Jeff Ruegsegger
We are a fairly large IMS shop and my company is investigating moving to 
SAP.  Looks like the move may be to UNIXAnyone running SAP DB2 on zos 
and SAP A/S on Linux on an IFL?  If so what were the key decision points.  
RAS or simply $$$?

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Output class of current running SYSLOG

2006-05-24 Thread Duane Weaver
IS it possible to change the output class of the current open syslog 
without an IPL?



duane

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Need Suggestions - Best Way To Ship Secure Reports from Mainframe to Users

2006-05-24 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. I have been asked by the user to come up with a way to SECURELY
ship reports from the frame to the users. Right now we use XMITIP
unsecured or unsecured FTP to ship them. The user stated:
1. If possible NO changes to their PCs / use of keys if possible.
2. User doesn't care if reports go to the server from the frame and then
uses something secure on the PC to ship them secured ( I don't want to
do it this way if possible as it moves another function off the frame).
3. Mentioned a product called VPS?
4. Basically they want some sort of security on what goes to school etc.

I am a 3 person shop running OS390 V2R10 very vanilla and have never
dealt with this type of issue. I am not even sure if my needs are clear.
Any suggestions/ideas/where to look are greatly appreciated. Thanks in
advance.  


Have a Nice Day !
 
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
 



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Re: Output class of current running SYSLOG

2006-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
Yes it is possible but not using a supported interface.  A couple folks
on the list pointed me to the right control blocks last year.Here is
what I provided as instruction to a fellow systems programmer to do the
change dynamically.  You should of course use caution when zapping
storage so be careful and verify everything is what you expect before
altering it.  These instructions are for TMONMVS but you should have no
trouble doing this with any MVS monitor.

CVT-CVTMSER--+x'68' = LOGCLS changes will be used on subsequent pseudo
close/starts due to LOGLMT.

If you alter the value of the SYSLOG class in storage in the Master
Scheduler data area it is honored on subsequent pseudo close/starts due
to LOGLMT.

It's easy enough to do with TMONMVS or a small authorized assembler
program.

In TMONMMVS on the COMMAND: line type  

A=CVT;FLD=CVTMSER;B4;O=68   and then press ENTER



*JOBNAME:TMVST M O N  f o r  M V S
DATE:10/12/05*
*SYSID  :BTST VERSION: 3.2
TIME:12:28:22*
*  F=H BASE(_00FC35F8),EBCDIC
*
*  ADDRESS SELECTION 31-BIT

* COMMAND: _
_RECALL?  _64 *
*
*
* 00FC3660   0068   E401C6A0 809BBA40 809BBA40 809BBA40 *U.F...  ..
..  * *
* 00FC3670   0078    00D67E84 00D6159C 00D61AB0
*.O=d.O...O..* *
* 00FC3680   0088    7F68D000 00D95000 E502
*.}..R.V...* *
* 00FC3690   0098    8598C6B0  
*eqF.* *
* 00FC36A0   00A8   8000  E502 00FCBC18
*V...* *
* 00FC36B0   00B8   00D67E84 00D56FE8 0003 1B494500
*.O=d.N?Y* *
* 00FC36C0   00C8   0185A6D0   
*.ew}* *
* 00FC36D0   00D8    00FD82E0  0002
*..b\* *
* 00FC36E0   00E8     00FC3AFC 
** *
* 00FC36F0   00F8   00FC36E8  00DC 0001CA5A
*...Y...!* *
* 00FC3700   0108   00FC3950 0001C79A 9001C8B6 00FC4C2C
*.G...H* *
* 00FC3710   0118   0050 00FC50DC 5001CAA0 00FC3AFC
*.* *
* 00FC3720   0128   00FC36E8 0001BCB8 00F383C0 00F6D300
*...Y.3c{.6L.* *
* 00FC3730   0138      E600
*W...* *
* 00FC3740   0148   0003BEA3  0080 
*...t* *
* 00FC3750   0158   C9C7C3F5 F1F0F7C2 00FC4CCC 00FC3790
*IGC5107B...* *
* 00FC3760   0168     00FC5A40 00FC3AFC *..!
* *
* 00FC3770   0178   809FFE00  809FFE00 
** *
* 00FC3780   0188     00FC36D0 00FC36E8
*...}...Y* *
* 00FC3790   0198   809F4D08 809F4D08 809F4D08 809F4D08
*..(...(...(...(.* *
* 00FC37A0   01A8   809F4D08 00FC3950  1B4CD358
*..(.L.* *
* 00FC37B0   01B8   1B57FFA8 03E7 4000 0064270F *...y...X
...* *
* 00FC37C0   01C8     002A0050 
*...* *
* 00FC37D0   01D8   009F6268 D2000A98 00FC3AFC 0050
*K..q...* *
* 00FC37E0   01E8   00FC50DC   0100F1F5
*.15* *
* 00FC37F0   01F8      
** *
* 00FC3800   0208      809F4D08
*..(.* *
* 00FC3810   0218   7FFBD8B8 009FBEC0 00D9E000 00FC4C2C
*.Q{.R\* *
* 00FC3820   0228   0050 00FC50DC 5001CAA0 009FA408
*...u.* *
* 00FC3830   0238   006FBC00 00FC4CF0 00FC36E8 8001BCAE
*.?0...Y* *
* 00FC3840   0248   8001C16E 0001BB5E 00FC4CCC 006FBC00 *..A..
;?..* *
* 00FC3850   0258   00FC37A8 0001C000 0001C0F4 009FA360
*...y..{...{4..t-* *
* 00FC3860   0268   00E48508   
*.Ue.* *
* 00FC3870   0278      0150270F
*...* *
* 00FC3880   0288   00F66200 87639748 001E000A 
*.6..g.p.* *
** HELP INFORMATION = PF1***TMVS PF KEY ASSIGNMENTS
= PA1***

Type over the single first byte in the right hand pane which should be
the current value of LOGCLS.  Without pressing ENTER or any other key
first TAB or use your mouse to take the cursor to the COMMAND: line and
type ALTER followed by pressing ENTER.  You will get a confirmation
prompt for which you press ENTER.  If storage changed while it was being
verified you will be warned (it should not).

On the next LOGLMT the SYSLOG will be queued to the value you put in the
Master Scheduler data area.  Look at BTST for a practical demonstration.

10OCT 06:01:58 *MASTER* NONE 0001 IEE043I A SYSTEM LOG DATA SET HAS
BEEN QUEUED TO SYSOUT CLASS 4 
12OCT 01:06:04 *MASTER* NONE 0001 IEE043I A SYSTEM LOG DATA SET HAS
BEEN QUEUED TO SYSOUT CLASS 4 
12OCT 05:20:41 *MASTER* NONE 0001 IEE043I A SYSTEM LOG DATA SET HAS
BEEN QUEUED TO SYSOUT CLASS U 
12OCT 12:10:55 *MASTER* NONE 0001 

Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 24 May 2006 07:50:12 -0600, Paul Gilmartin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
Underreaching.  Why the restriction to SAM?  Allocation ought to
write EOF whenever a NEW primary extent is allocated, regardless
of known or unknown DSORG.
...

???  Where (or perhaps, what) is EOF for a non-sequential dataset?
There is no logical place to put it; the end depends on the logic of 
the program reading the dataset.  There is no place to put EOF for an 
empty dataset except at the beginning, of course, but putting it there
is no more logical that leaving it out altogether.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-24 Thread J R

The problem here is one of imprecise communication.
 IEFBR14 does not create datasets.
 IEFBR14 does not allocate datasets.
 IEFBR14 does not initialize datasets.
I suspect we all knew what the gist of the vendor's
recommendation was but, as written in the OP's post,
one had to wonder.

What we have here is a failure to communicate!

Vivian said:

ACR/Summary and ACR/Detail version 3.3 has had reports of problems READING 
files initialized by IEFBR14, which is due to the fact that there is no EOF 
marker in the file.



We have always had top-notch customer support ...



David  Speake said:

I have a request for assistance in finding all JCL steps that use IEFBR14 
to

create (allocate might be a better word choice) data sets ...


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