sample smf exit

[fabio ottaviani]

Hi all
can anyone send me a sample of the USER2 SMF exit.
I need to filter SMF records when running IFASMFDP based on specific 
record fields.

Thanks
Fabio

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WLM problem

[Tommy Tsui]

Hi,

Is there anyone have experience on setting the WLM GOAL on DB2, CICS & MQ.

In our shop...All DB2, CICS and MQ are in same importance
anyone try to set DB2 higher than CICS & MQ...

thanks for share

Tommy

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Re: WLM problem

[Lindy Mayfield]

It's funny, I was just trying myself to understand this, along with WLM in 
general.  What a massive topic!  I feel like one of those Thai monkeys on his 
first day at coconut picking school.

FYI, there's a nice Redbook on WLM if you've not already found it:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246472.html?Open

Chapter 8 deals with DB2.  At the very beginning it says:

"For DB2 address spaces, velocity goal is the appropriate goal. A small amount 
of the work done in DB2 is counted toward this velocity goal. Most of the DB2 
threads work applies to the user goal."

Regards,
Lindy


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Subject: WLM problem

Hi,

Is there anyone have experience on setting the WLM GOAL on DB2, CICS & MQ.

In our shop...All DB2, CICS and MQ are in same importance
anyone try to set DB2 higher than CICS & MQ...

thanks for share

Tommy

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Re: WLM problem

[Lizette Koehler]

At one of the Share presentations I seem to remember that the IRLM address
space should be placed higher in WLM than the DB2 address spacess.  If I
recall correctly, it is so you do not wait on lock processing.

Lizette
> 
> Is there anyone have experience on setting the WLM GOAL on DB2, CICS & MQ.
> 
> In our shop...All DB2, CICS and MQ are in same importance
> anyone try to set DB2 higher than CICS & MQ...
> 
> thanks for share
>

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Re: CA-Allocate / SMS

[John Ticic]

-- snip --
>
> As Sam has already pointed out, there is nothing available in native SMS
> other than the ACS test option.
Oh ye of little faith!  Since z/OS 1.7, there is a console command
SETSMS VOLSELMSG which will provide summary or detailed info about the
SMS allocation process.  It can be limited to specific jobs or dataset
names.  I haven't tried it but it sounds like just what he needs.
-- snip--

Thanks for the Info. Bruce. It's amazing what you can find in the manuals
if you just look!!

SETSMS VOLSELMSG(ON,ALL),JOBNAME(myjob)

returns some useful information that can certainly be used for analysing
allocation problems. You can get detailed information indicating why
particular volumes were not selected for allocation. Good stuff!

Another additional method is to use the SMS trace table.

SETSMS TRACE(ON),TYPE(-- specify type or ALL)

I haven't done this myself, so it could be that the trace table information
(formatted with IPCS and SMSDATA), is not useful for us.

John

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LISTCAT RBA UPDATE

[Jorge Arueira Campos]

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Hi All

In Z/os 1.7 in command LISTCAT after REPRO to load a some records in VSAM
DATASET the information in catalog about allocate and used RBA not update.
Anybody know about a problem or APAR ???

Thanks

Jorge Arueira Campos
POLITEC-CEF SP BRAZIL

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IBMLINK

[Veilleux, Jon L]

Anyone else having IBMLINK problems today? Or maybe I should say, is
anyone NOT having problems???
 

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GEE, web IBMLINK is down again, shock and surprise

[Robert Justice]

SEV1 ticket # 32141089

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Robert Justice]

YES IT IS DOWN AGAIN, SHOCK AND SURPRISE

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Re: ServiceLink is taking the day off (# 32130396)

[Chase, John]

Oops.  I'll add some content this time

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:20 PM
> 
> Hi,
> 
> IBMLink is down completely again.  I contacted the IBMLink 
> help desk at
> 800-543-3912 as I am trying to update a PMR for a Media 
> Manager defect which has again caused a production job to 
> fail.  This is a case where the update is detailed enough to 
> bar any thought of having Level 1 put it in the PMR.
> 
> I actually had not had problems earlier in the day but now am 
> completely unable to use IBMLink.
> 
> The disappointing part was that the help desk staff when I 
> spoke to them at 10pm believed that IBMLink was in fact fine 
> but agreed when they tried to access it that it was down.  
> 
> Manage NOW/SEV 1 # 32130396 was opened internally and the 
> issue is being worked on but there was no estimated uptime 
> the help desk could provide.

Well, as of 07:50 CDT Monday morning my sign-on attempt to "Service"
link has been "in limbo" for about 15 minutes, so it appears nothing was
accomplished over the weekend.

Perhaps the time has come for some "large" IBM customers to "offer" to
withhold payment for this "service" until such time as the "service"
becomes reliably available, if ever.

-jc-

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Re: IBMLINK

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L
> 
> Anyone else having IBMLINK problems today? Or maybe I should 
> say, is anyone NOT having problems???

I had zero problems with it -- until I tried to sign in

-jc-

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
> 
> YES IT IS DOWN AGAIN, SHOCK AND SURPRISE

"Again?" or "Still?"

-jc-

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Re: ServiceLink is taking the day off (# 32130396)

[Robert Justice]

"Perhaps the time has come for some "large" IBM customers to "offer" to
withhold payment for this "service" until such time as the "service"
becomes reliably available, if ever". 

EXACTLY, companies need to quit paying for that garbage until IBM fixes it, by 
either putting the 3270 interface back up or FIXING THE WEB INTERFACE 
(note: at this point in time, I have ZERO confidence in IBM to fix the web 
interface, it has been a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER).

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Fletcher, Kevin]

It maybe down, but they are very apologetic about it.

Thanks,
 
Fletch

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Re: CA-Allocate / SMS

[Lester, Bob]

Hi Bruce,

   Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try!

Bob Lester
Technical Services
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>
> As Sam has already pointed out, there is nothing available in native
SMS
> other than the ACS test option.
Oh ye of little faith!  Since z/OS 1.7, there is a console command 
SETSMS VOLSELMSG which will provide summary or detailed info about the 
SMS allocation process.  It can be limited to specific jobs or dataset 
names.  I haven't tried it but it sounds like just what he needs.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin
> 
> It maybe down, but they are very apologetic about it.

But apologies don't "bring home the bacon".

The "call-bot" says to try it again at/after 09:15 EST

-jc-

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Mark Jacobs]

Chase, John wrote:

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin

It maybe down, but they are very apologetic about it.



But apologies don't "bring home the bacon".

The "call-bot" says to try it again at/after 09:15 EST

-jc-


  

Well it's 9:14 and it still fails.

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Maybe IBMLINK should be renamed "The Missing Link"?

[Shedlock, George]

Maybe IBMLINK should be renamed "The Missing Link"? 


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SEV1 ticket # 32141089

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CA-1 install - user exits?

[O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]]

I've asked CA for clarification and since the response was less than 
satisfactory, I'll ask the group.
 
Has anyone installed CA-1 r11.5 recently?
 
I'm not familiar with using Iebupdte and because it is an IBM utility CA won't 
give an example.
 
My first question is why use iebupdte at all? Why not insert the required code 
in the appropriate source code and assemble?
 
Second question, Can anyone provide an example of what they did to install 
Usermod CL05205 Macro/Source TMSUX2E?  or any other exit?
 
Thanks in advance,
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Re: WLM problem

[Mark Zelden]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:41:28 -0400, Lizette Koehler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At one of the Share presentations I seem to remember that the IRLM address
>space should be placed higher in WLM than the DB2 address spacess.  If I
>recall correctly, it is so you do not wait on lock processing.
>

All your IRLMs should be SYSSTC.  Even for test DB2 / IMS subsystems. 

Otherwise an appropriate "online" velocity goal should be used for production
and development/test.  Note that the number of engines really matters here.  
Search the archives for references to John Arwe's white paper (dated now,
but still valid) to see what I mean.

On our SAP LPARs (DB2 back end only on z/OS), I run all the DB2 tasks
 in SYSSTC since the work is variable and the "real priority" is controlled 
under the SAP subsystem type for the ICLI (prior to DB2 V8) and via DDF
enclave service classes (DB2 V8+).   

Again... search the archives, this topic has been covered many times.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

the latest "claim" is that it will be fixed by 10:15 

I hope customers rip IBM apart at Share and at the z/OS expo for this web 
IBMLINK nonsense.

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Re: Maybe IBMLINK should be renamed "The Missing Link"?

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:15:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

"The  Missing Link"? 



>>
Or 'No LINK at all'. Seems like the cognoscenti would at least give the  
customers an option 'til they can make the one  option dependable.



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Mark Zelden]

Down all weekend as near as I can tell.  Unacceptable since we (and most
other shops) do weekend upgrades.   Luckily I didn't run into any issues
with a 1.8 roll out to a production LPAR this weekend and didn't need to
use IBMLINK.  I did try to logon serveral times Saturday evening and
Sunday to update a PMR and that is how I know it was down.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Fletcher, Kevin]

I agree -jc-...i forgot to set the sarcasm flag to on.

Thanks,
 
Fletch 
> 
> It maybe down, but they are very apologetic about it.

But apologies don't "bring home the bacon".

The "call-bot" says to try it again at/after 09:15 EST

-jc-

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Re: mainframe = superserver

[Thompson, Steve]

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:50 AM
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Subject: Re: mainframe = superserver


... Microsoft Exchange servers are not supported on z/OS nor am I aware
of any direct substitutes. (Someone ca= n correct me on that if I'm
mistaken.) An indirect substitute is Lotus Do= mino for z/OS, possibly
with the Outlook client ("DAMO") if you need to supp= ort Outlook users.


I'm trying to remember who it is, it may be Sine Nominae (Latin for no
name?) has a product called Binarii (?). At an IBM school I went to, it
was said to replace Exchange. Novell has Evolution, some one else has
OpenExchange... 

How good these are I wouldn't know, because I haven't had the
opportunity to use them. 

But I do use Evolution on my Linux workstations/laptops). 

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:25:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

rip IBM  apart at Share and at the z/OS expo for this web 
IBMLINK  nonsense.



>>
I don't see what SHARE/Expo has to do with it. This is bread and  butter
'bidness'. Services offered, services not rendered...unfortunately  it's tied 
in to the support contract. So non-payment could lead to termination  of 'all 
support'. 
 
In the past branch and account managers would assume the role of customer  
advocate. I guess in the new age another 'lost function' 'cause nobody wanted 
to 
 support it and it cost money?



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

something has to be done, because this is absurd.

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Rugen, Len]

OK, I haven't touched this is a long time, but iebupdte commands are the
standard SMP/E way of doing source modifications.  For example " ./
CHANGE NAME=TMSUX2C" then uses the line numbers in the following
statements to update or replace lines in the original TMSUX2C.

As an alternative, you can create an SMPE/E usermod that completely
replaces the source (or macro) involved.  That would have the same
results and you don't have to understand IEBUPDTE.  

In this case, it's not exclusively a CA-1 question, this applies to a
lot of properly organized SMP/E configurations.   If this is your first
dive into this, be glad it's CA-1, there are much worse products :-)

 

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:16 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: CA-1 install - user exits?
> 
> I've asked CA for clarification and since the response was less than
> satisfactory, I'll ask the group.
> 
> Has anyone installed CA-1 r11.5 recently?
> 
> I'm not familiar with using Iebupdte and because it is an IBM utility
CA
> won't give an example.
> 
> My first question is why use iebupdte at all? Why not insert the
required
> code in the appropriate source code and assemble?
> 
> Second question, Can anyone provide an example of what they did to
install
> Usermod CL05205 Macro/Source TMSUX2E?  or any other exit?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Dave O'Brien
> 
> 
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Re: WLM problem

[Steve Samson]

Tommy,

In your post and the three replies to date I saw no mention of response 
time goals. I strongly suggest you do as Mark Zelden recommends for the 
server address spaces, but also set percentile response time goals for 
the CICS and DDR transactions.


There are plenty of presentations and at least one Redbook on the 
subject. If you need something else, let me know and I can send you some 
of my presentations. You might also want to get my softcopy book, MVS 
Performance Management. Let me know and I'll give you a link to purchase it.


Good luck!

Steve Samson

Tommy Tsui wrote:

Hi,

Is there anyone have experience on setting the WLM GOAL on DB2, CICS & MQ.

In our shop...All DB2, CICS and MQ are in same importance
anyone try to set DB2 higher than CICS & MQ...

thanks for share

Tommy

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
> 
> Down all weekend as near as I can tell.  Unacceptable since 
> we (and most
> other shops) do weekend upgrades.   Luckily I didn't run into 
> any issues
> with a 1.8 roll out to a production LPAR this weekend and 
> didn't need to use IBMLINK.  I did try to logon serveral 
> times Saturday evening and Sunday to update a PMR and that is 
> how I know it was down.

Likewise, I have an approaching maintenance window, and last Thursday
received an AST notification via email that a CICS APAR I've been
waiting on to clear a HOLD that affects about a dozen other PTFs was
"changed".  I still haven't been able to check if the APAR has closed
(last status I was able to see said "INTRAN") and the PTF for it is
available, or not.

Meanwhile, time marches on...

-jc-

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[McKown, John]

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. 
> (NIH/CIT) [C]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:16 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: CA-1 install - user exits?
> 
> 
> I've asked CA for clarification and since the response was 
> less than satisfactory, I'll ask the group.
>  
> Has anyone installed CA-1 r11.5 recently?

Yes. I was not the one doing it, but I have in the past.

>  
> I'm not familiar with using Iebupdte and because it is an IBM 
> utility CA won't give an example.

IEBUPDTE is very stupid, uh, simplistic. Sequence numbers are assumed to
be in columns 73-80 of each record. They are assumed to be in strictly
ascending order. IEBUPDTE reads the member to be updated and the
updates. When it reads a record from the existing member which has a
sequence number equal to the update record's number, it uses the update
record to replace the existing record. When the update record's number
is less than the existing member's record number, the update record is
ADDED to the output. Some pseudo code might look like:

READ MEMBER RECORD INTO MREC AT END SET MREC-EOF
READ UPDATE RECORD INTO UREC AT END SET UREC-EOF
DO UNTIL MREC-EOF OR UREC-EOF
   SELECT
WHEN MREC-KEY = UREC-KEY THEN DO
WRITE OUTPUT FROM UREC
READ MEMBER RECORD INTO MREC AT END SET MREC-EOF
READ UPDATE RECORD INTO UREC AT END SET UREC-EOF
END
WHEN MREC-KEY < UREC-KEY THEN DO
WRITE OUTPUT FROM MREC
READ MEMBER RECORD INTO MREC AT END SET MREC-EOF
END
WHEN MREC-KEY > UREC-KEY THEN DO
WRITE OUTPUT FROM UREC
READ UPDATE RECORD INTO UREC AT END SET UREC-EOF
END
   END /* OF SELECT */
END /* OF DO UNTIL */
DO UNTIL MREC-EOF
WRITE OUTPUT FROM MREC
READ MEMBER RECORD AT END SET MREC-EOF
END
DO UNTIL UREC-EOF
WRITE OUTPUT FROM UREC
READ UPDATE RECORD AT END SET UREC-EOF
END

>  
> My first question is why use iebupdte at all? Why not insert 
> the required code in the appropriate source code and assemble?

This is possible. This methodology actually goes back to when we had
real card decks and not on line editors. So, use of IEBUPDTE is due to
historical inertia. Also, when distributing IEUBPDTE updates, the number
of data needed to be transmitted is smaller than redistributing a
20,000+ card program. Again, in the past, this was a big deal. Also, the
sequence number of records which the vendor anticipates to be replaced
tend to stay "static" so that if you do it correctly, when the vendor
distributes a fix, it will not "back out" your change as well. That's
another reason to not redistribute the entire source module, with fixes
imbedded.

>  
> Second question, Can anyone provide an example of what they 
> did to install Usermod CL05205 Macro/Source TMSUX2E?  or any 
> other exit?

We didn't install this particular exit. The smallest that I see that we
did was CL05200. 


++SRCUPD (TMSKEYAB) /* SUPPLY CHANGES IN IEBUPDTE FORMAT. */ .
./ CHANGE NAME=TMSKEYAB
   FN='UICI INSURANCE CENTER', CL05200
*00016000
   FA='9151 GRAPEVINE HWY',CL05200
*00017000
   FC='NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, TX. 76180'CL05200
00018000
++MACUPD (TMEYCOMP) /* SUPPLY CHANGES IN IEBUPDTE FORMAT.

   CENTER YOUR COMPANY NAME BELOW

  IF COMPANY NAME CONTAINS QUOTES, SUPPLY TWO FOR EACH.
*/ .
./ CHANGE NAME=TMEYCOMP
!MODIFIED BY USERMOD CL05200   CL05200
0045
 'UICI INSURANCE CENTER'
0060
++MACUPD (TMZ$COMP) /* SUPPLY CHANGES IN IEBUPDTE FORMAT.

  PROVIDE YOUR COMPANY NAME BELOW

  IF COMPANY NAME CONTAINS QUOTES, SUPPLY TWO FOR EACH.
*/ .
./ CHANGE NAME=TMZ$COMP
*MODIFIED BY USERMOD CL05200   CL05200
0095
 VALUE('UICI INSURANCE CENTER')
0102


The way to find the correct sequence numbers is to VIEW the source
member, notice the sequence number of the record you want to replace,
then replace it. 

Though I do not suggest it, you could copy the entire source member into
your change member, make the changes you want and use the IEBUPDTE ./
REPL statement instead of the ./ CHANGE.

>  
> Thanks in advance,
> Dave O'Brien



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
> >>
> I don't see what SHARE/Expo has to do with it. This is bread 
> and  butter
> 'bidness'. Services offered, services not 
> rendered...unfortunately  it's tied 
> in to the support contract. So non-payment could lead to 
> termination  of 'all support'. 

Seems that once upon a time access to IBMLINK was an extra-cost option
called SoftwareXcel Extended.  Is that no longer true?

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:47:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In this  case, it's not exclusively a CA-1 question, this applies to a
lot of  properly organized SMP/E configurations.   If this is your  first
dive into this, be glad it's CA-1, there are much worse products  :-)



>>
 
I can't believe the OP has RTFM. CA-1 tech support is usually top-notch and  
the SAMPLE exits provided have just about everything you need. 'Insert your 
code  here'. We had heavily modified(from previous conversions) exits and once  
you get the 'sequence number' concept down they go in pretty easily if you  
remember where you keep the source!  



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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Rugen, Len]

Merging John's and my replies, his replacement method would have SMP/E
MCS as

++SRCUPD (TMSUX2C )
./REPLACE
...source here...

Mine would be 

++SRC (TMSUX2C)
..source here...

Again, from memory. There's always more than 1 way to do the same thing.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
> 
> something has to be done, because this is absurd.

I think it passed "absurd" last week.

Perhaps someone envisions this possible future scenario:

Support:  "We've had zero problem reports for the last quarter."

Management:  "Nobody has tried to use the service for the last quarter."

Support:  "And your point is..?"

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:54:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Seems  that once upon a time access to IBMLINK was an extra-cost option
called  SoftwareXcel Extended.  Is that no longer  true?




>>
Yeah, but with long term service contracts it all gets lumped  together. 



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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]]

Yes, I did RTFM.
 
You obviously have a higher opinion of CA than I do.
 
Tim, John, Len, Thank you for your responses. They were most helpful, unlike 
the one I'm responding to.



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In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:47:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In this  case, it's not exclusively a CA-1 question, this applies to a
lot of  properly organized SMP/E configurations.   If this is your  first
dive into this, be glad it's CA-1, there are much worse products  :-)



>>

I can't believe the OP has RTFM. CA-1 tech support is usually top-notch and 
the SAMPLE exits provided have just about everything you need. 'Insert your
code  here'. We had heavily modified(from previous conversions) exits and once 
you get the 'sequence number' concept down they go in pretty easily if you 
remember where you keep the source! 



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Re: WLM problem

[Kelman, Tom]

Lindy,

Thank you for the Redbook reference.  I actually had a copy of this.
However, this one updated with a date of February 2007.  If anyone else
has downloaded this in the past they may want to download a new copy.

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Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632

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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:25 AM
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Subject: Re: WLM problem

It's funny, I was just trying myself to understand this, along with WLM
in general.  What a massive topic!  I feel like one of those Thai
monkeys on his first day at coconut picking school.

FYI, there's a nice Redbook on WLM if you've not already found it:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246472.html?Open

Chapter 8 deals with DB2.  At the very beginning it says:

"For DB2 address spaces, velocity goal is the appropriate goal. A small
amount of the work done in DB2 is counted toward this velocity goal.
Most of the DB2 threads work applies to the user goal."

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

hmm, 9:15, then 10:15, now 11:15 

anyone seeing a trend here?

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
> 
> Seems  that once upon a time access to IBMLINK was an 
> extra-cost option called  SoftwareXcel Extended.  Is that no 
> longer  true?
> 
> >>
> Yeah, but with long term service contracts it all gets lumped 
>  together. 

In that case, non-availability of part of the contracted service would
constitute "breach of contract", wouldn't it?

-jc-

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Knutson, Sam]

The CA-1 team including Russell Witt who participates here is generally
very good.   CA like many large software companies feels to users more
like many small companies with some variations in culture and quality of
services. 

We have no complaints about CA-1 (TMS) software reliability and the
support staff.  I wish I could say that about every CA product but
hopefully they are progressing in the right direction. 

Perhaps there is something in the air today:-(

CA Web support keeps throwing HTTP 500 and host not available errors 

http://supportconnect.ca.com 

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
Performance and Availability Management 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(office)  301.986.3574 

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:01 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

Yes, I did RTFM.
 
You obviously have a higher opinion of CA than I do.
 
Tim, John, Len, Thank you for your responses. They were most helpful,
unlike the one I'm responding to.



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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:47:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In this  case, it's not exclusively a CA-1 question, this applies to a
lot of  properly organized SMP/E configurations.   If this is your
first
dive into this, be glad it's CA-1, there are much worse products  :-)



>>

I can't believe the OP has RTFM. CA-1 tech support is usually top-notch
and 
the SAMPLE exits provided have just about everything you need. 'Insert
your
code  here'. We had heavily modified(from previous conversions) exits
and once 
you get the 'sequence number' concept down they go in pretty easily if
you 
remember where you keep the source! 

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Mark Jacobs]

Robert Justice wrote:
hmm, 9:15, then 10:15, now 11:15 


anyone seeing a trend here?


  
Is it time to hold a contest to pick the time and date that IBMLINK is 
back? :-)


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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
> 
> hmm, 9:15, then 10:15, now 11:15 
> 
> anyone seeing a trend here?

Second Tuesday of next week?

-jc-

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Fletcher, Kevin]

Did they specify what day?

Thanks,
 
Fletch 


 
hmm, 9:15, then 10:15, now 11:15 

anyone seeing a trend here?

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam
> 
> The CA-1 team including Russell Witt who participates here is 
> generally
> very good.   CA like many large software companies feels to users more
> like many small companies with some variations in culture and 
> quality of services. 
> 
> We have no complaints about CA-1 (TMS) software reliability 
> and the support staff.  I wish I could say that about every 
> CA product but hopefully they are progressing in the right direction. 
> 
> Perhaps there is something in the air today:-(
> 
> CA Web support keeps throwing HTTP 500 and host not available errors 

Could be.  Some functions of Compuware's Frontline are unusually slow
today, too, but they eventually respond.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

"Did they specify what day?". 

lol, good point.

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Re: mainframe = superserver

[Thomas Kern]

The company is call Bynari.

http://www.bynari.net/

/Tom Kern

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:33:59 -0400, Thompson, Steve
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>
>I'm trying to remember who it is, it may be Sine Nominae (Latin for no
>name?) has a product called Binarii (?). At an IBM school I went to, it
>was said to replace Exchange. Novell has Evolution, some one else has
>OpenExchange...
>
>How good these are I wouldn't know, because I haven't had the
>opportunity to use them.
>
>But I do use Evolution on my Linux workstations/laptops).
>
>Regards,
>Steve Thompson

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Arthur T.]

On 11 Jun 2007 06:40:54 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:25:48 A.M. Central Daylight 
Time,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

rip IBM  apart at Share and at the z/OS expo for this web 
IBMLINK  nonsense.


I don't see what SHARE/Expo has to do with it. This is 
bread and  butter
'bidness'. Services offered, services not 
rendered...unfortunately  it's tied in to the support 
contract. So non-payment could lead to termination  of 
'all support'.


 "To win in a bureaucracy, make your problem their 
problem."


 Rather than just opening sev 1s whenever IBMLINK is 
down, perhaps you should call the hotline and ask the 
people there to do whatever you were trying to do.  Maybe 
when IBM sees the costs involved in staffing the hotline, 
they'll improve IBMLINK service (and/or bring back the 3270 
interface).  Of course, we have to face the possibility 
that they'll instead drop the hotline.



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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]]

Hi Sam,
 
Generally speaking I agree that CA-1 runs as designed and Russell is helpful to 
users of this list. However since upgrading to Zos 1.7 we have been 
experiencing intermittant 0c4 errors which FDR support attributed to CA-1. 
Having a question about iebupdte and having CA support refuse to comment on it, 
despite the fact that is used in the install doc, is what I found unacceptable. 
 
Regards,
Dave O'Brien




Sam Knutson wrote:

The CA-1 team including Russell Witt who participates here is generally
very good.   CA like many large software companies feels to users more
like many small companies with some variations in culture and quality of
services.

We have no complaints about CA-1 (TMS) software reliability and the
support staff.  I wish I could say that about every CA product but
hopefully they are progressing in the right direction.

Perhaps there is something in the air today:-(



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Mark Jacobs]

Robert Justice wrote:
hmm, 9:15, then 10:15, now 11:15 


anyone seeing a trend here?

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It looks like its back up.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 9:02:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Management:  "Nobody has tried to use the service for the last  quarter."

Support:  "And your point  is..?"




>>
What was the old film where the inmates are freed and are charged with  
running the town? Zero Mostell comes to mind...but it's really foggy and the 
dew  
point is rising.



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 9:20:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In that  case, non-availability of part of the contracted service would
constitute  "breach of contract", wouldn't it?




>>
Yeah, but it varies from state to state. CE's still come when called, parts  
get replaced, etc...guess eventually the suits will get  involved. 



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

"It looks like its back up". 

next question is for how long. We'll see what the response to my "feedback" 
record is this time. .

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Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

[Howard Brazee]

On Mon, 11 Jun 07 11:27:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>This is getting really interesting.  I'm beginning to understand
>why history has to repeat itself.  People can't tolerate that
>the "new" thing isn't new.  For some reason, they must think
>it will take away from their glory of "doing it first".  This
>has got to be related to the psychological obsession about "the
>10 best" of something.

Look at the world of art, where "innovative" appears to be far more
attractive than "beautiful".They keep having to come up for new
words for "new" to separate it from the previous generation's "new".

But it isn't just "kid's music", it is "kid's programming language" as
well.   People want to do it their way.   And it's probably better
than trying to compare it with traditional ways.   (In baseball people
are worried that Bonds will break "the most hallowed record in
baseball" - but the NFL doesn't have such reverence for individual
records, and just does its job entertaining).

I'm a CoBOL programmer - the kids don't even study CoBOL anymore. But
at least we can judge the technology by actual business results.

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Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Clem Clarke]

All good ideas come from a single individual, and by constantly putting 
roadblocks in their paths, progress stops.  Patents and copyrights mean 
that people cannot "stand on the shoulders" of those who went in front 
of them  When you make a judgment (that stifling the competition, for 
example) is only way to operate a business, or company or country, then 
all other methods (such as co-operation or even co-petition) are locked out


And so, with developers unable to get easy access to mainframes, I see 
innovation in that area dying out. 


It can be no other way.

It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows 
small developers some sort of inexpensive or free access to the 
mainframes, they will die.   Allowing a "hobbyist" license for Z/OS, VM 
and VSE on Hercules would be one way, and what does IBM really have to 
lose?  And the gain would be that they could have many people working at 
no cost on these systems developing tools and applications  to make them 
better and better.


Cheers,

Clement Clarke



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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Mark Jacobs]

Clem Clarke wrote:
All good ideas come from a single individual, and by constantly 
putting roadblocks in their paths, progress stops.  Patents and 
copyrights mean that people cannot "stand on the shoulders" of those 
who went in front of them  When you make a judgment (that stifling the 
competition, for example) is only way to operate a business, or 
company or country, then all other methods (such as co-operation or 
even co-petition) are locked out


And so, with developers unable to get easy access to mainframes, I see 
innovation in that area dying out.

It can be no other way.

It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows 
small developers some sort of inexpensive or free access to the 
mainframes, they will die.   Allowing a "hobbyist" license for Z/OS, 
VM and VSE on Hercules would be one way, and what does IBM really have 
to lose?  And the gain would be that they could have many people 
working at no cost on these systems developing tools and applications  
to make them better and better.


Cheers,

Clement Clarke


I happen to agree with everything you said, but sadly common sense 
usually isn't common anymore.


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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Gould]

On Jun 11, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Ed Finnell wrote:



In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:25:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

rip IBM  apart at Share and at the z/OS expo for this web
IBMLINK  nonsense.





I don't see what SHARE/Expo has to do with it. This is bread and   
butter
'bidness'. Services offered, services not rendered...unfortunately   
it's tied
in to the support contract. So non-payment could lead to  
termination  of 'all

support'.

In the past branch and account managers would assume the role of  
customer
advocate. I guess in the new age another 'lost function' 'cause  
nobody wanted to

 support it and it cost money?


Ed:

Have you (and other asked for a duty manager? This just rises  
visibility usually doesn't fix the issue. Once in a while he (or she)  
can step in and slap some knuckles. But in cases (probably ) like  
this visibility is the one of the real issues, IMO.


Ed

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[McKown, John]

I must somewhat disagree with you. I am against software patents. The
reason is that they stop others from implementing "work alike" products.
Imagine if the first person who wrote a job scheduler had patented it.
No other job schedulers could have been written as they most likely
would have violated at least portions of the patent.

I am for software copyrights. That means that if I write a job
scheduler, somebody else could not acquire (somehow) the source and do
with it what they want. If software were not copyrightable, then it
would need to remain a "trade secret" if it were to be used to recoup
the author's time and effort to write it. That means "no sharing" at all
except for public domain type software.

So, IMO, without software copyrights, there would only be two types of
software: (1) public domain which anybody could use for any purpose or
(2) trade secret / proprietary which nobody other than the developing
author could see. Again, I don't mind "work alike" software. But I
really dislike thieves (those who would take and never give back).

Yes, I like the GPL. But I am not against other licenses such a BSD or
even "public domain". I just think that it would be the author's right
to say, without the necessity of locking the source away from prying
eyes due to fear of software thieves (and that is what I consider
copyright violators).

Just my personal take on it. Is it Friday already?

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 10:28:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have you  (and other asked for a duty manager? This just rises  
visibility  usually doesn't fix the issue. Once in a while he (or she)  
can step  in and slap some knuckles. But in cases (probably ) like   



>>
Usually get adequate response from support. It's more of a technology  
architecture issue. Stuff keeps breaking, availability is horrible, response  
time 
is sporadic and has been for months. 



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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Rick Fochtman]

something has to be done, because this is absurd.
   



I think it passed "absurd" last week.

Perhaps someone envisions this possible future scenario:

Support:  "We've had zero problem reports for the last quarter."

Management:  "Nobody has tried to use the service for the last quarter."

Support:  "And your point is..?"
 



Far beyond absurd; try ludicrous. Doesn't this fall under the category 
of Theft By Deception? Collecting fees for services NOT rendered?


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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 10:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

oh yes, as I do with all ibmlink outages, I have sent this latest issue on to 
our 
IBM rep in-house here, and last time IBMLINK suffered outage problems I 
received an email reply from the SoftwareExcel Manager

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Howard Brazee]

On 11 Jun 2007 08:16:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke)
wrote:

>All good ideas come from a single individual, 

What's his name?

>and by constantly putting roadblocks in their paths, progress stops.  

Lots of good ideas have been created by teams.   And lots of patents
and copy rites are owned by companies who have created this
environment, or who have purchased them.

>Patents and copyrights mean that people cannot "stand on the shoulders" 
>of those who went in front of them.

Ahh, you mean like Sir. Isaac Newton?   That's a bad thing?

We need to look at the real world of today, not of yesterday.   Right
now, do patents (primarily owned by big corporations - IBM is huge
here), help the innovative individual more than they hurt the
innovative individual?I suspect they hurt more - and this trend is
going to continue.

It's not obvious what is needed here though.

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Howard Brazee]

On 11 Jun 2007 08:27:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>I happen to agree with everything you said, but sadly common sense 
>usually isn't common anymore.

You're implying it was once common.

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Re: FTP, IEBCOPY, and APF (was: IEBCOPY Unloaded ...)

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/08/2007
   at 11:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>But LMTR now runs IEBCOPY, which is the fly in
>the ointment: IEBCOPY requires AC=1, which in turn requires that the
>caller run AC=1.  I assume IEBCOPY does all the RACHECKs to ensure
>security.  But does this now mean that the FTP child process must
>likewise do RACHECKs for all non-IEBCOPY transfers rather than simply
>defaulting to the checking performed by OPEN?

Why? AC(1) does not imply either ASCBPASS or UID(0). Can you give a
scenario where normal OPEN security isn't good enough?
 
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Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/06/2007
   at 12:39 PM, Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Common Name:  Master Trace Table Mapping Macro 

Has nothing to do with the system trace table. Master trace is a view
of the console data stream.
 
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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
> 
> On 11 Jun 2007 08:27:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> 
> >I happen to agree with everything you said, but sadly common sense 
> >usually isn't common anymore.
> 
> You're implying it was once common.

It was -- centuries ago.  There was even "common law", judges could
exercise judgement, people individually were held accountable for the
consequences of their own acts or omissions, etc.

-jc-

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[McKown, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
> > 
> > On 11 Jun 2007 08:27:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
> > 
> > >I happen to agree with everything you said, but sadly common sense 
> > >usually isn't common anymore.
> > 
> > You're implying it was once common.
> 
> It was -- centuries ago.  There was even "common law", judges could
> exercise judgement, people individually were held accountable for the
> consequences of their own acts or omissions, etc.
> 
> -jc-

GOOD HEAVENS! How horribly primitive and damaging to a person's psyche!
Thankfully, we've evolved beyond that point.

Note that the above is sarcasm.

Are you sure it's not Friday? It just seems like Friday for some reason.

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Tim Hare]

"what does IBM really have to lose?"

I agree that licenses of some sort need to be accessible to the small 
developers; however if a "hobbyist" license is granted, how do they keep 
it from being abused by unscrupulous companies who then run their business 
on the "hobbyist" machine rather than the "commercial" mainframe license 
(that they dropped once they found they could get away from it)?

Perhaps IBM needs to be allowed to do something the other vendors are 
doing - bundling all sorts of software in as part of their "OS".  For 
example - Microsoft Paint, Notepad, and Wordpad are all demonstrably 
applications; their "drag to the CD to burn it" software is demonstrably a 
backup utility. IBM unbundles all of these things now - I think because of 
the consent decree way back when, correct me if I'm wrong. 

What if they were allowed to sell us a single OS license that included 
everything we needed to run our apps, including CICS, WebSphere, and DB2, 
and they priced it for what z/OS goes for now? Would our bean counters be 
happy?

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[McKown, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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> 



> 
> What if they were allowed to sell us a single OS license that 
> included 
> everything we needed to run our apps, including CICS, 
> WebSphere, and DB2, 
> and they priced it for what z/OS goes for now? Would our bean 
> counters be 
> happy?
> 
> Tim Hare

And what about people who develop alternative software? If SDSF is free,
then what happens to EJES? If DB2 is free, then what happens to Oracle
and other RDMSes that run on z/OS? If RMM were free, then what about
CA-1? And so on down the line.

Comparing to what Microsoft does is not a good idea to me. I despise
Microsoft. Their software stinks. They usually only develop something
"new" when it looks like another software developer is getting market
share. They then try to destroy them by bundling something that is
inferior, but "good enough" for the average (idiot) consumer. Yes, I'm a
Linux bigot, and despise MS for their poor software and immoral business
practices. Not that IBM is lily white, mind you.

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke) writes:
> It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows
> small developers some sort of inexpensive or free access to the
> mainframes, they will die.   Allowing a "hobbyist" license for Z/OS,
> VM and VSE on Hercules would be one way, and what does IBM really have
> to lose?  And the gain would be that they could have many people
> working at no cost on these systems developing tools and applications
> to make them better and better.

some related thread drift from another n.g.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#3 nouns and adjectives

that in the 60s and much of the 70s ... lots of the innovation came out
of customer installations & datacenters ... since it was the customers
that understood the need and requirement ... things like cics, ims, etc.
later they were transferred to "development" organizations for product
support. in many cases, this is misnomer ... since those "development"
organizations are responsible for product maintenance ... not the
products "development" (maybe doing plus/minus five percent changes per
annum). I've periodically made facetious comments referencing the "term"
inflation in using the word "development" applied to organizations that
are primarily product "maintenance".

something similar happened with the introduction of the ibm/pc ... large
proportion of the "products" originated from end-users (that were faced
with the actual problems and understood what kind of solution was
needed). vendor product operations tend to have people like software
engineers that understand issues about software maintenance ... but
rarely have people with the necessary experience that they could see
what solution was originally needed.

even before ibm/pc came out ... there were some that had jump shipped
from vm/cms (that had been providing mainframe-based personal computing
environment) and were implementing some number of CMS applications on
other early personal computers. These weren't ports of CMS applications
(because the implementation details tended to be totally different), but
frequently the look&feel and the solution they provided were the same.

the "OCO-wars" were especially hard on the vm/cms community ... because
not only was full source available ... but even maintenance, fixes, etc
for customers were shipped as source updates ... based on CMS
multi-level source maintenance facilities. Some studies from their
period even claimed the number of system (source) updates done at
customer datacenters (aka aggregate lines-of-code) was actually larger
than the source lines-of-code in the base system.

the high-end of the market is where the (quarterly) revenue/profit
... but all the innovation tends to originate at the low-end & mid-range
... in part innovation requires quite a bit of experimentation,
trial&error, etc ... and the high-end is rarely made available for such
experimentation.

As a result, some of the other vendors found a need that could filled in
the entry/low-end market segment (and long term ... it is frequently the
entry/low-end that tends to feed the high-end with the applications that
keep the high-end quarterly revenue sustained).

the pre-occupation with quarterly results has been a sporadic topic for
at least the last 40 yrs. during periods when there was significant
general economic growth ... the generational issues appeared to almost
take care of themselves ... allowing the perception that executives
could solely concentrate on the quarterly issues. however, this approach
somewhat came to roost. i've mentioned before about being at a talk at
MIT in the early 70s where Amdahl was asked how he was able to convince
the money people to support his new clone computer company. His reply
was that there was already something like $200b that customers had
invested in 360 applications ... that even if IBM were to totally walk
away from 360/370 ... which might be considered a vieled reference to
the future system project
http:///www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#futuresys

... (just) that (existing) software application base could keep him in
business thru the end of the century.

starting in the early 70s, i had been heavily involved with HONE
deployment ... first its original objective to provied "hands-on"
experience to branch office SEs with operating systems running in
virtual machines ... and then the transition to being primarily an
online, interactive environment deploying applications (mostly
implemented in cms\apl) supporting sales & marketing worldwide.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

in the mid-70s, I got con'ed into helping with the virgil/tully
microcode assists ... including spending time off & on over a period of
a year running around the world with the product managers, meeting with
business planning & forcasting groups positioning the processors

Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
> 
> "It looks like its back up". 

FSVO "up".  I signed on, checked my AST apar and saw that it had closed
and a PTF was available, ordered the PTF for Internet delivery,
navigated to SRD and saw the order status as "submitted", went to a
couple of meetings, went to lunch, came back from lunch, and now, four
hours later, my PTF order status is still "submitted" (not even
"received", let alone "shipped").  And that was with priority
"emergency".

-jc-

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Re: sample smf exit

[Ed Gould]

Fabio,


Its probably easier to do with DFSORT than with any "exit". There are  
probably some exceptions.


Ed

On Jun 11, 2007, at 4:56 AM, fabio ottaviani wrote:


Hi all
can anyone send me a sample of the USER2 SMF exit.
I need to filter SMF records when running IFASMFDP based on  
specific record fields.

Thanks
Fabio

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Robert Justice]

>FSVO "up".  I signed on, checked my AST apar and saw that it had closed
>and a PTF was available, ordered the PTF for Internet delivery,
>navigated to SRD and saw the order status as "submitted", went to a
>couple of meetings, went to lunch, came back from lunch, and now, four
>hours later, my PTF order status is still "submitted" (not even
>"received", let alone "shipped").  And that was with priority
>"emergency".


That one might possibly be one of the "known" ibmlink issues, i.e., 
ID #70092 

Abstract: Order updates fail on occasion in SRD 

Sometimes the status of an order in SRD may not change from "Submitted", 
or "Received", to "Shipped". 

An order status that does not change from "Submitted" or "Received" is 
indicating a failure of the SRD order status update function. The ultimate 
authority of an order's status is the Corrective Service Status public website: 

https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/ssos/order_status?
cmd=getIndexPage 



Workaround: If an order status does not change to "Shipped" in a reasonable 
amount of time, one should check the Corrective Service Status website to 
verify the order status.

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Re: CA-1 install - user exits?

[Schwarz, Barry A]

For your last question (from r11.0 but I'd be surprised if anything
changed):
++USERMOD(CL05205) REWORK(...).
++VER(Z038) FMID(CL052B0) 
REQ(AWMAC01) /* my usermod */.
++JCLIN.
//CL05205  JOB
//LKED EXEC PGM=IEWL,PARM='RENT,REUS,...'
//SYSUT1   DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,1))
//CL052LLD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=CAI.CL052LLD
//SYSLMOD  DD DISP=OLD,CAI=CAI.CAILIB
//SYSLIN   DD *
 INCLUDE CL052LLD(TMSUX2E)
 ENTRY TMSUX2E
 NAME TMSUX2E(R)
++SRC (TMSUX2E)
  TXLLIB(BOESRC) /* my dddef */.

-Original Message-
From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: CA-1 install - user exits?

snip
 
Second question, Can anyone provide an example of what they did to
install Usermod CL05205 Macro/Source TMSUX2E?  or any other exit?

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Barkow, Eileen]

Many times the order status does not change right away but the order is
still available. Do not wait for the status to change before going to
the ftp site to download it if you know the current password and url.
If you are not sure of the url, start with 
ftp://ptf.boulder.ibm.com/password/userid/srdn/ (where  is the
order number) and follow the links. Keep refreshing until the
cn directory and its subdirectorys appear.

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>FSVO "up".  I signed on, checked my AST apar and saw that it had closed
>and a PTF was available, ordered the PTF for Internet delivery,
>navigated to SRD and saw the order status as "submitted", went to a
>couple of meetings, went to lunch, came back from lunch, and now, four
>hours later, my PTF order status is still "submitted" (not even
>"received", let alone "shipped").  And that was with priority
>"emergency".


That one might possibly be one of the "known" ibmlink issues, i.e., 
ID #70092 

Abstract: Order updates fail on occasion in SRD 

Sometimes the status of an order in SRD may not change from "Submitted",

or "Received", to "Shipped". 

An order status that does not change from "Submitted" or "Received" is 
indicating a failure of the SRD order status update function. The
ultimate 
authority of an order's status is the Corrective Service Status public
website: 

https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/ssos/order_status?
cmd=getIndexPage 



Workaround: If an order status does not change to "Shipped" in a
reasonable 
amount of time, one should check the Corrective Service Status website
to 
verify the order status.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
> 
> Many times the order status does not change right away but 
> the order is still available. Do not wait for the status to 
> change before going to the ftp site to download it if you 
> know the current password and url.
> If you are not sure of the url, start with 
> ftp://ptf.boulder.ibm.com/password/userid/srdn/ (where 
>  is the order number) and follow the links. Keep 
> refreshing until the cn directory and its 
> subdirectorys appear.

Finally got the auto-notification at 1:13 PM (CDT), and downloaded it.

-jc-

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Ted MacNEIL]

>Many times the order status does not change right away but the order is still 
>available.

That is NOT how the product(s) should work!

You should not have to memorise URLs, nor should you have to keep "refresh"ing.

If we accept that, there is NO way IBM will fix things!

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Gerhard Postpischil]

McKown, John wrote:

And what about people who develop alternative software? If SDSF is free,
then what happens to EJES? If DB2 is free, then what happens to Oracle
and other RDMSes that run on z/OS? If RMM were free, then what about
CA-1? And so on down the line.


For IBM this issue was settled in the mid-sixties, when Applied 
Data Research sued them, claiming free copies of CRBE (and 
CRJE?) impacted sales of ROSCOE. IBM was "forced" to start 
charging for software, and to sell ROSCOE (although I'm not 
aware that they ever sold a copy that way).


Apparently IBM's lawyers have an interesting definition of 
software, as I recall getting free programs (Field Developed 
Programs) in later years (e.g., VSAM Catalog fixer).



Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Lindy Mayfield]

You bring up an excellent point.  I was thinking about this a bit when this 
thread first started.  

Would you agree, though, that mainframe users tend much more to be legal than 
personal users?  IBM can audit any of their mainframe machines at any time.  
And the large businesses that use mainframes tend to be much more honest 
because of self policing, with all sorts of auditors and so forth to keep 
things legal.  They have too much to loose to get stupid and steal software.

I like you brought this up, but I think it is a somewhat weak argument.  What 
about usage based pricing?  A company could just fudge the usage reports and 
save tons of money, no?  

I'd really like to know what IBM's stand on this really is.  

Regards,
Lindy


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"what does IBM really have to lose?"

I agree that licenses of some sort need to be accessible to the small 
developers; however if a "hobbyist" license is granted, how do they keep 
it from being abused by unscrupulous companies who then run their business 
on the "hobbyist" machine rather than the "commercial" mainframe license 
(that they dropped once they found they could get away from it)?

.

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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Barkow, Eileen]

Nothing in this field ever works 100%, least of all IBMLINK, so it is
better  and faster to try to work around it than wait forever for a
status msg to change.

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>Many times the order status does not change right away but the order is
still available.

That is NOT how the product(s) should work!

You should not have to memorise URLs, nor should you have to keep
"refresh"ing.

If we accept that, there is NO way IBM will fix things!

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Ted MacNEIL]

>Would you agree, though, that mainframe users tend much more to be legal than 
>personal users?

No, I would disagree.
Regardless of the platform, I believe that the larger (and medium-2-large) 
companies (also known as customers) are totally honest!

But, there are many independent vendors who do not treat them that way.
And, we end up with obscure and hard to maintain key-based solutions that just 
tick us off!
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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Ted MacNEIL]

>Nothing in this field ever works 100%, least of all IBMLINK, so it is better  
>and faster to try to work around it than wait forever for a status msg to 
>change.


Considering the kind of money we pay for it, the other things we have to do, 
and the fact that the 3270-based one works, and this doesn't, er! NO!

Not as a habit.
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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc]

Just to remember BS3000 (a german OS from Siemens) died because it violates
IBM patents and/or copyrights. Long time ago but no complains or even a note.

So FLEX and other "emulator" or "simulator" isn't the first or maybe the last.

Roland

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All good ideas come from a single individual, and by constantly putting 
roadblocks in their paths, progress stops.  Patents and copyrights mean 
that people cannot "stand on the shoulders" of those who went in front 
of them  When you make a judgment (that stifling the competition, for 
example) is only way to operate a business, or company or country, then 
all other methods (such as co-operation or even co-petition) 
are locked out

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Patrick O'Keefe]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:16:16 +0800, Clem Clarke 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows
>small developers some sort of inexpensive or free access to the
>mainframes, they will die.  ...

Ah.  A new slogon for IBM comes to mind.  "ReTHINK".  Maybe  even 
glossy periodical with that name.  

But I suspect we will not see that.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Ted MacNEIL]

>"ReTHINK".

Or, "ReTHWIM".

I think, as a 50-year-old mainfraimer, sinking is going to be the main stream!
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3270 IBMLink is UP!!!

[Edward Jaffe]

FWIW, The TN3270 IBMLink interfaces to ETR, SIS, etc. are working for me 
right now!


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Re: 3270 IBMLink is UP!!!

[Mark Zelden]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:02:06 -0700, Edward Jaffe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>FWIW, The TN3270 IBMLink interfaces to ETR, SIS, etc. are working for me
>right now!
>

Haven't used that in a long time.  What is the address?  The session I
had set up tries to go to ibmlink.advantis.com and can't get there
from here.

Does VPL work from that still?

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Re: 3270 IBMLink is UP!!!

[Edward Jaffe]

Mark Zelden wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:02:06 -0700, Edward Jaffe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

FWIW, The TN3270 IBMLink interfaces to ETR, SIS, etc. are working for me
right now!




Haven't used that in a long time.  What is the address?  The session I
had set up tries to go to ibmlink.advantis.com and can't get there
from here.
  


In PCOM, I specify the primary address as ibmlink.advantis.com and the 
backup1 address as 204.146.168.209.



Does VPL work from that still?
  


Yes.

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Dave Kopischke]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:49:07 -0400, Tim Hare wrote:

>What if they were allowed to sell us a single OS license that included
>everything we needed to run our apps, including CICS, WebSphere, and DB2,
>and they priced it for what z/OS goes for now? Would our bean counters be
>happy?
>

Your bean counters might appreciate that, but it does little to address the 
long term problem or need. In my opinion, the hobbiest license or training 
subsidies are intended to address the long term viability of the platform. Not 
satisfy some revenue plan. And yes, I know this is an important piece of the 
puzzle, but how much revenue do you book from a product you can't sell ???

The number one priority of IBM in this area should be to ensure as many 
people as possible have cheap and easy access to training and educational 
material on the z Server. Nothing less will suffice.

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Steve Comstock]

Dave Kopischke wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:49:07 -0400, Tim Hare wrote:



What if they were allowed to sell us a single OS license that included
everything we needed to run our apps, including CICS, WebSphere, and DB2,
and they priced it for what z/OS goes for now? Would our bean counters be
happy?




Your bean counters might appreciate that, but it does little to address the 
long term problem or need. In my opinion, the hobbiest license or training 
subsidies are intended to address the long term viability of the platform. Not 
satisfy some revenue plan. And yes, I know this is an important piece of the 
puzzle, but how much revenue do you book from a product you can't sell ???


The number one priority of IBM in this area should be to ensure as many 
people as possible have cheap and easy access to training and educational 
material on the z Server. Nothing less will suffice.


I'm with you. Except for the "cheap" part, of course.


Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
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Re: IBMLINK-SEV1 32141089-->now 11:15 maybe

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 6/11/2007 2:24:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Finally  got the auto-notification at 1:13 PM (CDT), and downloaded  it.




>>
After a 60 hr outage there's probably a queue the size of political  egos.



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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Craddock, Chris]

Lindy Mayfield asks
 
> Would you agree, though, that mainframe users tend much more to be
legal
> than personal users?

I would say that practically all large customers are about as legal as
they can possibly be and that there are strong external factors that
drive them to behave that way. SOX here and corporate legal/accounting
restrictions in many overseas markets make it fairly unlikely that
customers in typical "western world" jurisdictions will intentionally
stiff their providers. 

Accidental discrepancies are another matter, but overall I don't see it
as a huge black hole sucking money out of the business. Of course I
don't have anything to do with how licensing is done, so my opinion is
irrelevant. I'd love to see a hobbyist license for many things, but they
are extremely unlikely to show up any time soon (if at all)

BTW> all mainframe customers are also "distributed" customers. There's
no such thing as an all-mainframe shop any more.

CC

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DFSORT question

[McKown, John]

I think that I know the answer to this, but I'll ask here. Suppose that
I have an input file with variable length records. I use OPTION VLSHRT.
I then have a couple of OUTFIL statements, similar to:

 SORT FIELDS=COPY
 OPTION VLSHRT
 OUTFIL FNAMES=FILE1,INCLUDE=(27,1,CH,EQ,C'A',OR,50,2,CH,EQ,C'BC')
 OUTFIL FNAMES=FILE2,INCLUDE=(99,2,CH,EQ,C'ZD')

Suppose that I have a record which is 90 bytes long. It contains an "A"
in column 27 and a "BC" in column 50 (Yes, I know about the +4 for VB
records, that's been taken into account).

For some reason, the person thinks that because the second OUTFIL "goes
beyond" the length of the record, that the first OUTFIL will fail as
well. So he ran two separate SORT steps which did the equivalent of the
above.

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Re: 3270 IBMLink is UP!!!

[Patrick O'Keefe]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:17:46 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>In PCOM, I specify the primary address as ibmlink.advantis.com and 
the
>backup1 address as 204.146.168.209.
>...

It's also available via connection through AT&T Global Network Services 
(aka Advantis, aka IBMIN) for those of us that still use that.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:45:13 -0400, Craddock, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Lindy Mayfield asks
>
>I would say that practically all large customers are about as legal as
>they can possibly be and that there are strong external factors that
>drive them to behave that way. SOX here and corporate legal/accounting
>restrictions in many overseas markets make it fairly unlikely that
>customers in typical "western world" jurisdictions will intentionally
>stiff their providers.
>
I once asked a certain employer, "Is it our policy to pay requested
shareware license fees?"

"No, because there is no legal commitment for the supplier to provide
support."

I refrained from asking the parallel question, "Is it our policy
when employees expense restaurant meals to pay a customary gratuity?
If there's a difference, what is the social or ethical rationale
for it?"

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Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

[Dave Kopischke]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:32:11 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
>
>I'm with you. Except for the "cheap" part, of course.
>

Maybe a more precise word to use would be "affordable" ??? ;) But what I 
think is affordable is probably not what others think is affordable.

If it were up to me, I'd do more to keep you busy.

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Re: DFSORT question

[Frank Yaeger]

John McKown wrote on 06/11/2007 01:46:55 PM:
> I think that I know the answer to this, but I'll ask here. Suppose that
> I have an input file with variable length records. I use OPTION VLSHRT.
> I then have a couple of OUTFIL statements, similar to:
>
>  SORT FIELDS=COPY
>  OPTION VLSHRT
>  OUTFIL FNAMES=FILE1,INCLUDE=(27,1,CH,EQ,C'A',OR,50,2,CH,EQ,C'BC')
>  OUTFIL FNAMES=FILE2,INCLUDE=(99,2,CH,EQ,C'ZD')
>
> Suppose that I have a record which is 90 bytes long. It contains an "A"
> in column 27 and a "BC" in column 50 (Yes, I know about the +4 for VB
> records, that's been taken into account).
>
> For some reason, the person thinks that because the second OUTFIL "goes
> beyond" the length of the record, that the first OUTFIL will fail as
> well. So he ran two separate SORT steps which did the equivalent of the
> above.

The statement about "beyond the length of the record" is false.  But, if
you substitute "beyond the length of the LRECL" for "beyond the length of
the record", then that's true.

To explain:

To use 99,2 the LRECL of the input file must be at least 100 bytes.
Otherwise, DFSORT will terminate with:

ICE027A 9 END OF FILE2FIELD BEYOND MAXIMUM RECORD LENGTH

To use 50,2 the LRECL of the input file must be at least 51 bytes.

So depending on the LRECL of the input file, it may be that the second
OUTFIL statement causes the job to fail because it requires an LRECL of
100 whereas the first OUTFIL statement alone wouldn't because it requires
an LRECL of 51.  But that's a consequence of the input LRECL, not VLSHRT.

If the input LRECL is at least 100 bytes, then the 90 byte record will not
cause the first OUTFIL to fail based on the second OUTFIL.  The OUTFIL
conditions are independent of each other with respect to the record length.

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Re: McDATA switches, HCD, Cascaded FICON switches ...

[Glenn Miller]

Alan,

According to the Redbook: FICON Implementation Guide, SG24-6497, dated: 
January 2006, Section 1.4.1 "FICON support for cascaded Directors" (Page 
11), there is the following note:

Keep in mind that once a 2-byte link address is defined to a channel path, all 
link addresses defined to be accessed from that same channel path must be 2-
byte link addresses (regardless of whether there is only one switch in that 
link).

We chose different channel paths for our cascaded vs. 'direct' FICON control 
units, however, I got hit by this restriction on the CHPID that had the 
directors "CUP" address.

I have found it easier to just specify 2-byte link addresses for all control 
units 
on my FICON directors.  It works and avoids confusion.

HTH
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ARCCMDxx - HSM : Anyone know the keyword to restrict Supervisor Mode in ISMF

[Clark, Kevin]

Hello all, 

 

I am starting to forget more than I ever knew. I thought it was a SETSYS
sometime.

 

 

In the ARCCMD HSM member there was a way to restrict User and Supervisor
Mode without RACF in ISMF. (it 

 

I will accept even a hint...say the  URL to the right DFSMS manual.

 

Kevin 


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Re: 3270 IBMLink is UP!!!

[Glenn Miller]

Also, the 'sunset' warning messages are not being displayed anymore when 
you enter each function.  I tried to access these functions on Sunday morning 
about 02:00 Central Time and they were unavailable(down).  The 'sunset' 
messages were there indicated the functions were unavailable.  

Glenn Miller

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