Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-27 Thread R.S.

r hey wrote:

Poland


R.S.: 
I tried a few companies there  CZ, but didn't get far.

I wasn't even after big $.


I know about some vacancies currently.
I get several serious job offerings yearly, and more not very serious.

Salaries - well - IT salaries, (especially mainframe) are very 
competitive for our circumstancies.
However difference between Poland and US is huge. Here, on the list I 
see complaints about 60k$ per year. In Poland less than 1% population 
(employees) earn more than 40 k$. Oh, I forgot: net salary is 26 k$, the 
rest is tax.




To me good signs of 'demand' are:

1- demand is far more than the 'local supply', so companies have to
hire people from other countries.


It happens in Poland.


2- finding a job doesn't take long for local people. 


It always take a long to find good job.



Based on this, I'd say there isn't much demand in Australia, US, 
west-EU for sysprogs.

Or you were not looking to much.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Grant Ward Able
Oh Lindy I dont know - free board and lodging, someone to clean up after 
you and cuddles whenever you want them and no other expectations at all. 
Not even taxes. You'll be looked after until the end of your days (if you 
choose your household well), so no worries about pension and stuff. Sounds 
like a good second choice to me!

Regards - Grant



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You guys are making me nervous.  I actually want to be a z/OS systems 
programmer.  Some day.  )-:

My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. 





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Re: ICC Console

2007-07-27 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:57:48 -0400, Andy White 
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Can anyone out there who are using ICC consoles tell me how they 
have the
console itself defined both in the consol member and hcd. This all 
worked
for us when we had a z8 hardware we are now on z9 but I dont see 
why there
is a difference.

Here are some observations
 V 1001,CONSOLE
 IEE936I CONSOLE CONZ INITIALIZATION ERROR - RC:01 - 3277-2 
IS
...snip.

Andy,
Have a look at IBM Info APAR II13648 (quite old) but since you 
are using Attachmate Extra, you will need to update the Extra session 
profile with the parameter WCCResetClock=TRUE (it is CaSe sensitive) 
at the end of the paragraph that begins with the TERMINAL character 
string in the Extra session profile file.

Hope this helps.

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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-27 Thread John Ticic
-- snip --

 :Ed Jaffe asks...
 : Out of curiosity, which software products allocate CSA in keys A-
 : F?

 :I know of one major vendor's storage management product that right up
 :until the last time I looked (more than a year ago) ran in key 10
 :(X'A0') and used a bunch of CSA in key 10. The developers thought it
was
 :clever. I didn't.

 While I don't condone it, I don't see the exposure (unless the standard
zOS
 problem state key mask includes key 10).

A V=R (ADDRSPC=REAL) job step is assigned a key from the 10-15 range.
-- snip --

Could you guys clear up a few things for me.

I've seen (E)CSA key 14 data in dumps.

The fine manual states :-

-- manual extract --
(referring to keys)

8-9   All V=V problem programs

10-15 V=R problem programs (each protected by a unique protection key)


and also -

The system assigns real frames upon request from a pool of available real
frames, thereby associating virtual addresses with real addresses. Frames
are repossessed upon termination of use, when freed by a user, when a user
is swapped-out, or when needed to replenish the available pool. While a
virtual page occupies a real frame, the page is considered pageable unless
specified otherwise as a system page that must be resident in central
storage. The system also allocates virtual equals central (V=R) regions
upon request by those programs that cannot tolerate dynamic relocation.
Such a region is allocated contiguously from a predefined area of central
storage and is non-pageable. Programs in this region do run in dynamic
address translation (DAT) mode, although real and virtual addresses are
equivalent.

-- manual extract --

Does that mean that a Job needs to have ADDRSPC=REAL on the job or step
card in order to allocate storage in the key range 10-15?

Can one assume that any authorised code can use the V=R keys with out
specifiying ADDRSPC=REAL?

The storage is non-pageable - but not fixed! What does this mean (other
than the obvious!).  Namely, what happens when storage is configured
offline. Are these pages allocated in the preferred storage area?

Is it really the case that real and virtual addresses are equivalent for
these storage areas?

Thanks

John

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Unless you are garfield. :-)
 
Fletch 
 

snip

You guys are making me nervous.  I actually want to be a z/OS systems
programmer.  Some day.  )-:

My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. 

/snip

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S.
 
 Kelman, Tom wrote:
 [...]
  
  .From Me.
  Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and 
  Warsaw last night.  They both look like nice cities to live 
 in and I 
  understand that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise.  Maybe
it's 
  time to learn Polish. :-)
 
 (my opinion) Warsaw is definitely not good place to live.
 
 BTW: I believe it is much easier to learn English + COBOL + 
 assembler than polish ;-) For the beginning say 
 Szczebrzeszyn, Szczecin or Pszczyna (city names).

Gehsundheit!

-jc-

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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Havelock, Glenn A
If you mean Faver, which backs up files, it is CA.

Regards,

Glenn



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Hi List,

Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google Favor but no luck
only hits that I saw was for party favors.

Thanks

Regards,

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Dean Kent
 
 Reminds me of that little road off the I-15 interstate between
 California and Nevada, named Zzxyzz Road.

Zzyzzx Road.

 
 /Jeffrey D Smith
 
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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Stocker, Herman
Thank to all that responded.  Have a good weekend.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Richards.Bob
Can I buy a few vowels? :-)

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For the beginning say Szczebrzeszyn, Szczecin or Pszczyna (city names).

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Tout la France, mais je prefere Provence ou Cotes d'Azur. 


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Ou quelque parte de la France?  Irgendwo in Deutschland? Or in the UK?
Or nearby countries?  :-)

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 Have any jobs in southern France?


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Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:30:04 -0500, Steve Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We need to count the number of records in about 100 flat files.Since  
we're already running these through SyncSort, I'm thinking of keeping and  
parsing the output of these with Rexx, but thought I would ask first to  
see if there are other nifty first. 
 
Lots of different ways.  This question comes up every so often, so please
search the archives.  

Since you specifically mentioned SYNCSORT, you can do it with SYNCTOOL,
which is very similar to DFSORT's ICETOOL.

//TOOLRUN EXEC PGM=SYNCTOOL,REGION=2M  
//TOOLMSG  DD SYSOUT=*   
//DFSMSG   DD SYSOUT=*   
//IN1  DD DSN=your.input.file,DISP=SHR
//TOOLIN   DD  * 
* COUNT NUMBER OF RECORDS IN INPUT FILE  
   COUNT FROM(IN1)
/*


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Re: Compare two disk files

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Steffens
Thank you all you replied with answers to this thread.

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Re: FW: Deleted PDS - K - kg - Kg

2007-07-27 Thread TISLER Zaromil
--snip--
 Usually they mean binary kilo and mega, although it is not proper in 
 aspect of IS standard. However this is different story: for example 
 every RAM manufacturer use MB and GB instead of correct MiB and GiB.

Probably because the i qualifier is relatively recent?  I do remember
Seagate and others using decimal capacities because it made their disks
appear bigger (e.g., 65K tracks rather than 64K).
--snip--


I would say that it is still so (the 160GB Samsung disk I bought has about
149 GiB capacity) and have never thought of it made their disks appear
bigger as a reason. Isn't that so because disk capacity is not base 2 (i.e.
base 1024) dependent?


--snip--
 BTW: In Europe we *say* kilo as abbreviation of kilogram, but we
 *write* it properly: kg, so assumption about kilograms is bad shot.

Perhaps in your neck of the woods, but I spent fourteen years in Austria and
saw plenty of stores with prices with just a K. And technically, it should
be Kg, not kg, because the convention is to capitalize multiplicative
prefixes.
--snip--


K instead of kg:  prices written manually with a chalk on small paper or
wooden surfaces? Or maybe it is normal to me and I just did/do not perceived
that? 

And I don't know what technically means in this context, but it is kg:

URL: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html 

The smallest capitalized prefix is M for mega:

URL: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html 

Binary multiplicative prefixes are all capitalized.


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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Richards.Bob
Radoslaw,

Out of curiosity though, how are they phonetically pronounced? :-)

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 Can I buy a few vowels? :-)
 
 Bob Richards
 
 
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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Chase, John
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 Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland.
 Russia, too.

I've been close.  When I was an Army Brat during the Cold War we
were stationed in Germany and France.  Poland, et al were still behind
the Iron Curtain, so we couldn't go there even as tourists.

-jc-

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread R.S.

Richards.Bob wrote:

Radoslaw,

Out of curiosity though, how are they phonetically pronounced? :-)


It's not so hard to pronounce ;-)
However it's harder to describe:
Pszczyna   p - sh - tch - i - n - a  (sh like SHrek, tch like baTCH,)

The rest - I give uo, English does not use such sounds.
BTW: I chose names without Polish diacritic characters. If your mail 
program use Unicode, then you will see it: ąćęłńóśżź.


BTW: it is off-topic!

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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Dodge
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 Hi List,
 
 Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google Favor but no luck
 only hits that I saw was for party favors.
 
 Thanks
 
 Regards,
 
 Herman Stocker
 Technical Specialist
 Data Center Operations 


CA is the vendor for the FAVER product.
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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-27 Thread Edward Jaffe

Peter Relson wrote:

IIRC, the PKM (PSW Key Mask) starts at x'0080' and gets changed to
x'00C0' after an abend. Weird.



You're not remembering correctly. It starts as TCB key plus key 9. Plus
key 9 is always done on current machines.
  


You're right. I should have said TCB key. Obviously, my example was for 
a standard key 8 TCB.


The point I was making was that the PKM for a newly-attached TCB did not 
include key 9. Yet, after recovering from an abend via ESTAE, the key 9 
bit in the PKM was magically added!


Was I dreaming that? Didn't it work that way just a few years ago?

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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-27 Thread Thompson, Steve
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On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 15:39 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote:
 A V=R (ADDRSPC=REAL) job step is assigned a key from the 10-15 range.

I think Bob Rogers mentioned a handful of shares ago (maybe Dallas?)
that he was considering optimizing it out; he left the impression that
V=R was a short timer.  Are there any V=R users around anymore?
SNIP

Well, kinda, Yes. While the following are not truly V=R users, they (at
the time I was working at STL on development) were able to use KEYS
10-15. (These are AI languages).

IBM Prolog for 370: USERKEYs 8-15. Modified before it went GA because of
CICS mangling 9, to use 10-15. 

The Integrated Reasoning Shell (TIRS) was able to do the same in its
subsystem interface (which it shared with Prolog).

I understand that TIRS is no longer owned by IBM, and Prolog moved to
Europe (for development) and I've lost track of it.

I mention these because DAT (this was in MVS/SP3 days), after MASTER got
control, was ALWAYS on, whether V=R or not. So the use of user keys
provided certain protection without getting into system keys. So
products that are using the user keys (10-15) are protected across
address spaces just as key8 is now.

This may not be what Dave had in mind, but this type of thing needs to
be considered for CSA usage.

Regards,
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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-27 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 15:39 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote:
 A V=R (ADDRSPC=REAL) job step is assigned a key from the 10-15 range.

I think Bob Rogers mentioned a handful of shares ago (maybe Dallas?)
that he was considering optimizing it out; he left the impression that
V=R was a short timer.  Are there any V=R users around anymore?

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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Richards.Bob
I think I have deleted a lot more posts on this thread than SHARE spam I
received.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Jon Brock
Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland.
Russia, too.

Jon



snip
Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and Warsaw
last night.  They both look like nice cities to live in and I understand
that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise.  Maybe it's time to
learn Polish. :-)
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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:11 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:

 And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so
 they can get at us.

I make a point of looking up people I like on the Expo floor, and
probably struck up conversations at a dozen booths in Tampa.  These were
all folks who had taken the time to introduce themselves to me earlier
(in cases YEARS earlier), and I wanted to touch base with them and thank
them for their support of SHARE, and catch them up on our business
plans.

Sponsorship doesn't give vendors the automatic right to litter my
front lawn with flyers.  It doesn't imply permission to shotgun my inbox
either.  It does give them visibility in an important venue, and it
spreads goodwill.

You do business with *people*.  Never forget that.

 I know how to use a delete key

If I didn't have some (nontrivial) automation to help me filter my
inbox, I'd have to use a delete key about 500 times a day.

 or pitch something into the waste basket.

Not the same thing.  I open paper mail on MY schedule; a pile appears on
the corner of my desk in the morning, and I'll scan it when I've got a
couple of minutes.  Nothing urgent there, so I can take my time.

Email is more demanding, and (the way many of us operate) requires close
attention -- if for no other reason than to evaluate an incoming message
to see if it's urgent or not.  It is intrusive, in the same way that a
telephone can be.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread R.S.

Kelman, Tom wrote:
[...]


.From Me.
Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and Warsaw
last night.  They both look like nice cities to live in and I understand
that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise.  Maybe it's time to
learn Polish. :-)


(my opinion) Warsaw is definitely not good place to live.

BTW: I believe it is much easier to learn English + COBOL + assembler 
than polish ;-)

For the beginning say Szczebrzeszyn, Szczecin or Pszczyna (city names).

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Jon Brock
Of course, one of the downsides is that whole neuter thing.  

Jon


snip
Oh Lindy I dont know - free board and lodging, someone to clean up after

you and cuddles whenever you want them and no other expectations at all.

Not even taxes. You'll be looked after until the end of your days (if
you 
choose your household well), so no worries about pension and stuff.
Sounds 
like a good second choice to me!
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Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-27 Thread Peter Relson
IIRC, the PKM (PSW Key Mask) starts at x'0080' and gets changed to
x'00C0' after an abend. Weird.

You're not remembering correctly. It starts as TCB key plus key 9. Plus
key 9 is always done on current machines.

That's why I never use MODESET MODE=PROB, because the stupid SVC clobbers
the PKM to show only the current key (Broke As Designed B.A.D.).

Those concerned about system integrity might disagree with your opinion.
I know you weren't referring to the key 9 part. It does reset it to the
key plus key 9.

If you don't use MODESET MODE=PROB, and you need to get to problem state,
you are likely doing something that you should not be doing (LPSW to change
state comes to mind).  The system, by the way, does not prevent you from
decreasing your authority from the state in which you got control (as it
cannot), but really does not support your doing so.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Kelman, Tom
O cualquier parte de España.  Vivi alli por 3 años y amaria ir detrás.

Or any part of Spain.  I lived there for 3 years and would love to go back.

Tom Kelman
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Ou quelque parte de la France?  Irgendwo in Deutschland? Or in the UK?  Or
nearby countries?  :-)

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Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-27 Thread Reda, John
Steve,

There are many ways to do this with SyncSort.  The following is just one of the 
ways.  If you would like to pursue this further feel free to contact me 
directly.

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SORTIN DD DSN=your.dsn.name,DISP=SHR
//SORTOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD * 
  INREC FIELDS=(C'TOTAL NUMBER OR RECORDS ',SEQNUM,8,ZD)
  SORT FIELDS=(25,8,ZD,D)
  OUTFIL ENDREC=1
/*

John Reda
Syncsort, Inc.


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Hello! z/OS 1.7 here!

This is (I hope) a pre-Friday easy opinion question.   The only parameters 
are, that we have no real third party tools to solve this except SyncSort.

We need to count the number of records in about 100 flat files.Since 
we're already running these through SyncSort, I'm thinking of keeping and 
parsing the output of these with Rexx, but thought I would ask first to 
see if there are other nifty first.

TIA!

Stg



In order to fulfill auditor requirements, Focus needs to compare the 
number of records FTP’d to FOCUS with the number of records used in its 
night production database loads.

There are currently ten jobs that FTP over 100 files to the FOCUS server. 
Most of these jobs are put through an MVS SYNC SORT process to place the 
data in the correct format, so a total record count for those datasets is 
available in the SYSOUT.  Getting this information manually is very time 
consuming, so we want to develop an automated method. 

Since a job that would read these counts from the SYSOUT file would be 
cumbersome to write, I would like to know if there is a means of directly 
counting the records in a dataset.  One method of counting is provided by 
SYNC SORT, using the TRAILER parameter.  Do you know of any others?

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Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-27 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:20 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Counting Records in Files
 
 
 In a recent note, Steve Grimes said:
  
  Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:30:04 -0500
  
  Since a job that would read these counts from the SYSOUT 
 file would be
  cumbersome to write, I would like to know if there is a 
 means of directly
  counting the records in a dataset.  One method of counting 
 is provided by
  SYNC SORT, using the TRAILER parameter.  Do you know of any others?
  
 Export your data sets with NFS Server (we do this routinely.)
 From any UNIX NFS client, issue:
 
 wc -l wildcarded-path-name-list
 
 As a bonus, you can use all the other customary UNIX tools on
 the exported data sets.
 
 -- gil

I tried using wc and, although undocumented, it will accept a z/OS
dataset name

wc //'my.dsn'

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Kingston
 
 My wife earns more than that pulling pints of beer in my 
 local pub
 
 Sysprog contract rates are actually increasing over in 
 Europe. Average rates seem to be between £350-£450 per day, 
 although there's still not many roles around.
 
 We still need some more people to retire to kick start the 
 market again
 :-)

Six more years..  (Stocking up on golf balls now)

-jc-

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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Hale, Bob
CA is the vendor of FAVER.

Bob
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Hi List,

Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google Favor but no
luck
only hits that I saw was for party favors.

Thanks

Regards,

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Technical Specialist
Data Center Operations 
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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Havelock, Glenn A
No problem Herman and feel free to contact me if you need any techical info on 
the product.

Regards,

Glenn



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Thank to all that responded.  Have a good weekend.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
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 Can I buy a few vowels? :-)
 
 Bob Richards
 
 
 For the beginning say Szczebrzeszyn, Szczecin or Pszczyna (city names).
 
 --
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Reminds me of that little road off the I-15 interstate between
California and Nevada, named Zzxyzz Road.

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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Jim Wangler
CA 


Jim Wangler 
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Hi List,

Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google Favor but no luck
only hits that I saw was for party favors.

Thanks

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Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))

2007-07-27 Thread John P Kalinich
Time for a Subject change.  Anyone get snubbed in Tampa?

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip-


You guys are making me nervous.  I actually want to be a z/OS systems 
programmer.  Some day.  )-:

My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. 
 


---unsnip
Always remember: dogs have owners; cats have staff..  :-D

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip-

My wife earns more than that pulling pints of beer in my 
local pub


Sysprog contract rates are actually increasing over in 
Europe. Average rates seem to be between £350-£450 per day, 
although there's still not many roles around.


We still need some more people to retire to kick start the 
market again

:-)
   



Six more years..  (Stocking up on golf balls now)
 


--unsnip--
Already there, but the only golf I shoot is with a .30-06 Springfield 
rifle!!!


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Re: COBOL - NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) and NODBCS

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Comstock

Jim McAlpine wrote:

Why are the two compiler options above mutually exclusive.  I've checked the
archives but I'm still non the wiser.

Jim McAlpine


Well, NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) forces on DBCS; for NSYMBOL(DBCS) you
can still have, I think, DBCS or NODBCS.

Tom Ross told me because there are a lot programs in Asia
using DBCS they wanted to support having DBCS strings
embedded in Unicode strings.

I was never totally convinced that is a good idea, but
that's what I was told.

Kind regards,

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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
 
 I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were 
 contenders, LA had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names!

I can remember watching a baseball game at the Polo Grounds between the
(New York) Giants and the (Brooklyn) Dodgers.  (No; sadly, not *that*
game.)

-jc-

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Re: OSHELL RC = 32512

2007-07-27 Thread Mullen, Patrick
The cd has to be in lower case, CD is not found.



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Hi,

When I start OMVS via TSO, I can do all the UNIX commands but if I run a

batch job with the following JCL, I get the following back :

READY  

  OSHELL CD hwwd   

 OSHELL RC =  32512
   
 OSHELL Exit Status =  127 

CD: FSUM7351 not found 
   

32512 One of the following conditions may have resulted:  

The SH keyword was specified with a program_name value for BPXBATCH and 
no program_name could be found. 
The shell exited with an exit status of 127. stdout contains a shell
message 
indicating the program was not found.  

The program_name or the shell exited with an exit status of 127.

//SETUPEXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC 
//SYSTSIN  DD *  
  OSHELL CD hwwd 
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Re: COBOL - NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) and NODBCS

2007-07-27 Thread Steve Comstock

Jim McAlpine wrote:

On 7/27/07, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) forces on DBCS; for NSYMBOL(DBCS) you
can still have, I think, DBCS or NODBCS.

Tom Ross told me because there are a lot programs in Asia
using DBCS they wanted to support having DBCS strings
embedded in Unicode strings.

I was never totally convinced that is a good idea, but
that's what I was told.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.




OK, but why should that specifically exclude the use of NSYMBOL(NATIONAL)
and NODBCS together.

Jim McAlpine


Like I said: I was never totally convinced. It seems to me to be
reasonable to compile with the options picture character 'N'
means Unicode, not DBCS and There is no DBCS data in this
program. In the grand scheme of things, it seems to be a nit:
this is how it is.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

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Re: COBOL - NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) and NODBCS

2007-07-27 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 7/27/07, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) forces on DBCS; for NSYMBOL(DBCS) you
 can still have, I think, DBCS or NODBCS.

 Tom Ross told me because there are a lot programs in Asia
 using DBCS they wanted to support having DBCS strings
 embedded in Unicode strings.

 I was never totally convinced that is a good idea, but
 that's what I was told.

 Kind regards,

 -Steve Comstock
 The Trainer's Friend, Inc.


OK, but why should that specifically exclude the use of NSYMBOL(NATIONAL)
and NODBCS together.

Jim McAlpine

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OSHELL RC = 32512

2007-07-27 Thread Anton Britz
Hi,

When I start OMVS via TSO, I can do all the UNIX commands but if I run a 
batch job with the following JCL, I get the following back :

READY  

  OSHELL CD hwwd   

 OSHELL RC =  32512
   
 OSHELL Exit Status =  127 

CD: FSUM7351 not found 
   

32512 One of the following conditions may have resulted:  

The SH keyword was specified with a program_name value for BPXBATCH and 
no program_name could be found. 
The shell exited with an exit status of 127. stdout contains a shell message 
indicating the program was not found.  

The program_name or the shell exited with an exit status of 127.

//SETUPEXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC 
//SYSTSIN  DD *  
  OSHELL CD hwwd 
/*

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Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-27 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip-
I'm curious about this one. A person here has stated that when a VSAM 
KSDS file is in multiple extents, it performs more poorly than it would 
in a single contigueous extent. He said something to the effect that 
when a portion of the index is referenced which is in another extent 
that the entire in-memory buffer for the file is flushed. I have no idea 
where he got this information.

unsnip---
In my experience, that's completely bogus. Increasing index buffers in 
storage is still, IMHO, the best way to improve index performance. The 
fewer times you do real I/O to the index, the better.


---snip-
Also, he wants to use SMS striping for VSAM files which are mainly 
accessed sequentially because it would significantly decrease the I/O 
time to read. We are using multiple FICON connections to a single 2105 
ESS (Shark). We do not have the volumes in any storage group spread 
across LCUs. My contention is that it may well decrease I/O, but it 
would require that we likewise stripe the volumes across the 2105's LCUs 
as well. We don't do this at present.

---unsnip---
Striping might help a little bit, but increasing buffers will help 
immensely more. You've got loads of storage for buffers; use it! In my 
experience, striping on RAID hardware seems to have very little effect, 
what with PVA's and all.


Bear in mind: for sequential access, the most important part of the 
index is the Sequence Set, the very bottom level of the index tree 
structure. Consider using larger Index CI's and more storage for index 
buffers. The number of extents has very little, if any, relationship to 
overall performance.


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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/27/2007 8:32:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

think I  have deleted a lot more posts on this thread than SHARE spam  I
received.





I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders, LA  
had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names!



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Re: Email Client Settings

2007-07-27 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
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Re: ICC Console

2007-07-27 Thread Andy White
Thanks Roger and others I will give this a try next week when I can test 
again. 
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 Andy,
 Have a look at IBM Info APAR II13648 (quite old) but since you 
 are using Attachmate Extra, you will need to update the Extra session 
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COBOL - NSYMBOL(NATIONAL) and NODBCS

2007-07-27 Thread Jim McAlpine
Why are the two compiler options above mutually exclusive.  I've checked the
archives but I'm still non the wiser.

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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-27 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip

I'm so old, I can remember when the 49ers and Raiders were contenders,
LA  
had a team and my slobberkill file was 2 names!


/snip

raiders

2003, they lost to NE via the tuck rule (I have another name for it,
but in involves substituting a letter).
2004, lost to TB in the SB

as for the 49ers, 1995 (IIRC) won SB against SD

oh yeah..go share, go!

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Kelman, Tom
.From Jeff Smith.
After 30 years of developing commercial grade software, this is the kind
of opportunities that are coming my way. Has anyone else been degraded
like
this? That's not a typo, it is $15 an hour for proficiency in MVS. The
job
is in Broomfield Colorado, not (expletive deleted) New Delhi!

.From Lindy Mayfield.
Maybe this can help?
http://www.anglik.net/polish.htm

(Ok, it's Friday and I though this may give you a laugh and cheer you
up. 
(-:
Things do seem better here in Europe, though.)

((Oh wait, it's only Thursday.  Doh!))



.From Me.
Well, I was watching a Rick Steve's Europe show about Krakow and Warsaw
last night.  They both look like nice cities to live in and I understand
that Poland is looking for mainframe expertise.  Maybe it's time to
learn Polish. :-)





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Re: OSHELL RC = 32512

2007-07-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:10:41 -0500, Anton Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


When I start OMVS via TSO, I can do all the UNIX commands but if I run a
batch job with the following JCL, I get the following back :

READY

  OSHELL CD hwwd

 OSHELL RC =  32512

 OSHELL Exit Status =  127

CD: FSUM7351 not found



snip

The program_name or the shell exited with an exit status of 127.

//SETUPEXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSEXEC  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC
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  OSHELL CD hwwd
/*


Case matters in UNIX.   Use cd, not CD.  So you need CAPS OFF if 
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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip--


Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland.
Russia, too.
 


unsnip-
Russia (at least Leningrad) was very un-impressive; drab, boring, lousy 
food, but beautiful artwork in The Hermitage museum.. Warsaw and Crakow 
were interesting and fun. Can't complain about the food, although it was 
somewhat outside my experience. Polish people seemed more friendly than 
Russians; more outgoing and willing to criticize governemts, both theirs 
and mine. This was in 1968. I'm sure much has changed since then.


I had one bad experience in Leningrad. I'm an architecture freak and was 
busily photographing buildings. Well, I snapped a pic of the local KGB 
headquarters and my film was impounded. I was told that I'd be given 
back the other pics, but not that one. Not wise to argue with a 
uniformed man carrying a submachine gun, but I've never seen the other 
pics since that day.


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Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Stocker, Herman
Hi List,

Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google Favor but no luck
only hits that I saw was for party favors.

Thanks

Regards,

Herman Stocker
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Re: Snubbing at SHARE (Was: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE))

2007-07-27 Thread Greg Shirey
Yes, I got snubbed by a few of the same people as in Baltimore (and I
think they were snubbing each other) though I didn't get a sticker this
time.  

I got snubbed by a fellow Lister whose office is in north Dallas - mine
is in central Fort Worth.  We both laughed at the notion that it we
found it simpler to travel to Tampa to meet for the first time than to
consider driving the freeways of the D/FW Metroplex.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 

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Time for a Subject change.  Anyone get snubbed in Tampa?

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Dave Thorn
Me too.  I also had to sign a statement when I got out stating that I
wouldn't go to one of those countries for 4 years or something like
that.

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In the early 70's when I was in the Army, I was told that I could not  
go to any Iron Curtain country (except W. Berlin but needed orders  
for that) because of the security clearance I had. I did travel all  
over Europe (hit most of the countries) except Greece. I am still  
sorry I didn't make it to there. I just got in my car and went  
anyplace I could. I had 7 days (every other week) to make it there  
and come back.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Ed Gould

On Jul 27, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Chase, John wrote:


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock

Maybe I'm a bit unusual, but I have always wanted to visit Poland.
Russia, too.


I've been close.  When I was an Army Brat during the Cold War we
were stationed in Germany and France.  Poland, et al were still behind
the Iron Curtain, so we couldn't go there even as tourists.

John,

In the early 70's when I was in the Army, I was told that I could not  
go to any Iron Curtain country (except W. Berlin but needed orders  
for that) because of the security clearance I had. I did travel all  
over Europe (hit most of the countries) except Greece. I am still  
sorry I didn't make it to there. I just got in my car and went  
anyplace I could. I had 7 days (every other week) to make it there  
and come back.


Ed

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Re: IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware

2007-07-27 Thread Howard Brazee
I was thinking of the process we are going through right now.   There
are some applications that we will be dropping.   The conversion is a
convenient way to drop printed bill, credit card processing, etc.

It's much harder politically to drop an application in the legacy
system.   But some applications just aren't cost effective (or maybe
secure or private or whatever) and should be dropped.

Other processes should be re-designed, but none of the customers want
to pay for such a redesign - the old process works OK.

In the old days, we could go to a new database or package and
accomplish most of this without getting rid of our old computer.

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Kelman, Tom
I was also in the army in the early 70s stationed in Madrid, Spain.
Another GI and I went on a month long tour of Europe and did go to East
Berlin.  We drove from Check Point Alpha (entry to East Germany) to
Check Point Bravo (entry from East Germany to West Berlin).  Had to sign
in and we were timed.  If we'd been too early getting to Check Point
Bravo we would have been ticketed for speeding - too late and the MPs
would have come looking for us.  To enter East Berlin we had to wear our
uniforms, sign in at Check Point Charlie and remove our name tags.  We
were told we could go any where in the city but not to sign anything and
to be back by midnight.  There was a Communist Youth Festival going on
at the time.  They were all wearing yellow scarves (like Boy Scout
scarves) and everyone was signing the scarves.  The kids saw two
American soldiers and of course wanted our signatures on their scarves.
It hurt to have to refuse, but I could just see my picture in Pravda or
the Stars and Stripes - American soldier endorses Communist Youth
festival.  I would have been in Kansas long before now - at Fort
Leavenworth.  The trip to East Berlin was a little scary but very
interesting.  

Tom Kelman
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On Jul 27, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Chase, John wrote:

John,

In the early 70's when I was in the Army, I was told that I could not  
go to any Iron Curtain country (except W. Berlin but needed orders  
for that) because of the security clearance I had. I did travel all  
over Europe (hit most of the countries) except Greece. I am still  
sorry I didn't make it to there. I just got in my car and went  
anyplace I could. I had 7 days (every other week) to make it there  
and come back.

Ed

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IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Thomas Conley
I'm running a REPRO MERGECAT at z/OS V1R8, getting IDC3332I ** 
INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE trying to merge 360,000 entries into a new 
catalog.  I'm running 0M (also tried 250M and 500M) with no exits limiting 
storage.  I've got 12M private below the line.  IBM is giving me the WAD, 
telling me to break down the REPRO MERGECAT into smaller chunks.  

A friend of mine find old issues dating back to 2000 where IDCAMS gets this 
message for LISTCAT, let alone REPRO MERGECAT.  It's 2007, people!  Region 
abends for below the line storage are so 20th century.  I'm submitting a SHARE 
requirement to remove this limitation in IDCAMS, or provide us a new utility 
that can get the job done.

Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can flesh out the 
requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: VLF Question

2007-07-27 Thread Dave Barry
Are you SMS-caching the PDSE?  See APARS II14026 OA15322 for hints.

db

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reflect what would be the case if it (VLF) wasn't active?

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Re: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip

Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can flesh
out the 
requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

/snip

Tom,

When we went for z/OS 1.6 to z/OS 1.8 we had a similar problem with the
LISTCAT function of IDCAMS. We had quite a few jobs that had a
region=1024k (ironically removing the region fixed the problem). I
opened an ETR with IBM and the stated that the LISTCAT part of the code
had been expanded. You may want to search the IBM-MAIN archives for more
stories.

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Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-27 Thread Craig Bakken
Search on Z/OS or ZOS or OS390 or OS/390 on the site www.monster.com there is 
over 400 jobs, with jobs in just about any populated area of the US.
r hey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is there a city/country in the world with a 
real shortage of M/F
sysprogs? 

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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:40:22 -0600, Steve Comstock 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You guys are making me nervous.  I actually want to be a z/OS 
systems programmer.  Some day.  )-:

 My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these 
days.

Neither does being a systems programmer.
...

Perhaps I have an unusual (and unpopular) opinion, but I've always
found systems programming to be pretty well paying.  It probably 
depends on location, etc.  It probably also depends on whether 
the companies are trying to keep the mainframes (and a staff to 
support them) or trying to get rid of them.  

Availability is the biggest issue now.  Unavailable jobs really don't
pay well.

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Pause elements used across multiple address spaces

2007-07-27 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
I am in the throes of designing an application that communicates between a
long running (IPL to Z EOD) server Address Space and multiple user Address
Spaces.  Given the requirements, the exploitation of PAUSE/RELEASE seems, as
per the documentation, to be highly suitable.  The server Address Space is
likely to deploy an array of Pause Elements from which the most suitable
will be selected upon each user request (of which there may be a LOT).  So a
given PE may be used VERY frequently by any and/or many User Address Spaces.
There is a paragraph in the Auth Assembler Guide which gives me a slight
concern. It states:

When a PE is allocated with auth_level=IEA_AUTHORIZED, the PE can be used
to pause and release any task or SRB in the system. The same PE can be used,
for example, to pause a task in address space 10. After being released, the
same PE can be used to pause an SRB in, say, address space 23. ++There is,
however, a small performance penalty imposed when a PE is used to pause a
task or SRB in one space and then reused to pause a task or SRB in another
space++.  This cost is accrued upon each space transition.

I have a number of questions relating to this.   Does the accrual happen on
each AS transition? For instance, if the usage happened to alternate between
just two address spaces (say 10  23) would there be an accrual for EACH
Transition, or just one per Address Space?  

Secondly, given the accrual rate, however derived, is there a predictable
point where the performance overhead could become a liability - and how can
I determine it?

Finally (at least for now), if the overhead has the potential of becoming a
problem, would it be a wise move to maintain a usage count of each PE and to
delete and reacquire once a particular limit has been reached - and if so,
any suggestions as to the values that may be suitable?

Mike Kerford-Byrnes


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Re: Pause elements used across multiple address spaces

2007-07-27 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Kerford-Byrnes
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:32 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Pause elements used across multiple address spaces
 
 I am in the throes of designing an application that communicates between a
 long running (IPL to Z EOD) server Address Space and multiple user Address
 Spaces.  Given the requirements, the exploitation of PAUSE/RELEASE seems,
 as
 per the documentation, to be highly suitable.  The server Address Space is
 likely to deploy an array of Pause Elements from which the most suitable
 will be selected upon each user request (of which there may be a LOT).  So
 a
 given PE may be used VERY frequently by any and/or many User Address
 Spaces.
 There is a paragraph in the Auth Assembler Guide which gives me a slight
 concern. It states:
 
 When a PE is allocated with auth_level=IEA_AUTHORIZED, the PE can be used
 to pause and release any task or SRB in the system. The same PE can be
 used,
 for example, to pause a task in address space 10. After being released,
 the
 same PE can be used to pause an SRB in, say, address space 23. ++There
 is,
 however, a small performance penalty imposed when a PE is used to pause a
 task or SRB in one space and then reused to pause a task or SRB in another
 space++.  This cost is accrued upon each space transition.
 
 I have a number of questions relating to this.   Does the accrual happen
 on
 each AS transition? For instance, if the usage happened to alternate
 between
 just two address spaces (say 10  23) would there be an accrual for EACH
 Transition, or just one per Address Space?

From my interpretation of the same documentation that you quoted, the
accrual happens each time the PE is reused to point to a different
address space.

 Secondly, given the accrual rate, however derived, is there a predictable
 point where the performance overhead could become a liability - and how
 can
 I determine it?
 
 Finally (at least for now), if the overhead has the potential of becoming
 a
 problem, would it be a wise move to maintain a usage count of each PE and
 to
 delete and reacquire once a particular limit has been reached - and if so,
 any suggestions as to the values that may be suitable?
 
 Mike Kerford-Byrnes

I would suggest not using Pause/Resume, because I don't like the
way its interface was implemented. IMHO, I think it was silly to use an
SVC routine and to require the client to decide whether to use the
authorized or unauthorized interface. A simple stacking PC routine would
have been a clean interface for both task and SRB, and it is faster than
the SVC FLIH  SLIH processing.

I would suggest using GRS latch manager, which has the same interface
for TCB or SRB mode, and works in cross memory. You can allocate a latch
set in your server space. Use space-switch PC routines to jump into the
server space and enqueue on a selected latch. The GRS latch manager
can be used quite effectively in a WAIT/POST-like scenario that works
in cross memory mode and SRB mode. You'll need an FRR EUT=YES,MODE=FULLXM
to handle clean-up when either the home space or the server space goes
away unexpectedly.

Seems a bit easier than writing code to manage a set of Pause elements
with usage counts.

2 cents worth. your mileage may vary.

Jeffrey D. Smith
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Re: Pause elements used across multiple address spaces

2007-07-27 Thread David Day

Mike, either I'm not undersatnding what you are wanting to do, or you're not
getting out of the manual what it is saying.  If your server address space
is the address space where the tasks or srb's will be paused, then there is
no cost to transition, as the pause element is only being used in one
address space.  If you are going to use the pause element to pause in
multiple address spaces, then the cost you will incurr will be in
transitioning the ownership of the pause element from one address space to
another.  It's not something that accumulates, and grows.  It's similar to a
one time toll for using the service.  Releasing the pause elements and
re-acquiring them will do nothing to speed any processing of the pause and
release function, as far as I know.  Hope this helps.

   --Dave Day

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Re: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've seen this also.  I just re-submitted the job with no changes. 
Eventually the mergecat finished with the end results what I wanted.

This appears to be a case of a getmain not being followed by a freemain.  It
takes a fairly large number of entries to move to pop this problem up.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:24:13 -0400, Fletcher, Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can flesh
out the
requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

/snip

Tom,

When we went for z/OS 1.6 to z/OS 1.8 we had a similar problem with the
LISTCAT function of IDCAMS. We had quite a few jobs that had a
region=1024k (ironically removing the region fixed the problem). I
opened an ETR with IBM and the stated that the LISTCAT part of the code
had been expanded. You may want to search the IBM-MAIN archives for more
stories.

Thanks,

Fletch

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MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-27 Thread Danielle Duarte
Hi, 

I am a technical recruiter that has been faced with the challenging task
of finding extremely talented workers like yourselves for my company's
clients throughout the US. 

I do apologize for the misspelling in my previous email and if I
offended anyone by using this listserv as a resource for my recruiting
efforts. I am sorry. 

I would like the opportunity to find out from experts in the field like
yourselves, what you feel the job market should be offering for
individuals with MVS - Z/OS skills?
 
You can always respond confidentially to me directly at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thank you again for your time!


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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:40:22 -0600, Steve Comstock 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You guys are making me nervous.  I actually want to be a z/OS 
systems programmer.  Some day.  )-:

 My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these 
days.

Neither does being a systems programmer.
...

Perhaps I have an unusual (and unpopular) opinion, but I've always
found systems programming to be pretty well paying.  It probably 
depends on location, etc.  It probably also depends on whether 
the companies are trying to keep the mainframes (and a staff to 
support them) or trying to get rid of them.  

Availability is the biggest issue now.  Unavailable jobs really don't
pay well.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Who is the supplier of Favor?

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Mason

Herman

Alternatively the product may now be offered by a British company in which 
case it could have been rebranded Favo*u*r.


Chris Mason

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Hi List,

Can anyone tell me the vendor of Favor.  I tried to Google
Favor but no luck only hits that I saw was for party favors.


It's spelled Faver (with an e, not an o).  CA had it last time I
checked.

   -jc-

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Re: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Chris Mason

Tom


A friend of mine find old issues dating back to 2000 ...


I was sure you were talking about magazines here until I got to


Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS ...


I keep forgetting I'm in this parallel universe where people are so 
reluctant to mention the word problem.


Chris Mason

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Subject: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT


I'm running a REPRO MERGECAT at z/OS V1R8, getting IDC3332I **
INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE trying to merge 360,000 entries into a new
catalog.  I'm running 0M (also tried 250M and 500M) with no exits limiting
storage.  I've got 12M private below the line.  IBM is giving me the WAD,
telling me to break down the REPRO MERGECAT into smaller chunks.

A friend of mine find old issues dating back to 2000 where IDCAMS gets this
message for LISTCAT, let alone REPRO MERGECAT.  It's 2007, people!  Region
abends for below the line storage are so 20th century.  I'm submitting a 
SHARE

requirement to remove this limitation in IDCAMS, or provide us a new utility
that can get the job done.

Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can flesh out 
the

requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: VLF Question

2007-07-27 Thread Art Celestini
Thanks, Dave, but I determined that VLF is not active for this data
set.  There are some LOADs being issued for system modules that are 
being resolved out of LPA and the LINKLST, but the STEPLIB directories 
are, of course, scanned for them first.  At this point, it appears 
that although the PDSE directories are cached over in the SMSPDSE
address space, and *no* I/O is actually done against the data set,
there are some EXCPs charged against the first PDSE in the STEPLIB
concatenation for the directory scans.  

This is all happening in a large ISV product with dozens of load
modules, so its a little hard to come to any really solid conclusions.
When I get a chance, I'll write a little test program to isolate the
circumstances as I understand them now, and see if it happens there as 
well.  For now, the Customer is satisfied that there are not a lot of 
redundant or unnecessary LOADs occurring, so the importance of the 
issue has diminished. 

--Art


At 02:39 PM 7/27/2007, Dave Barry wrote:
  
Are you SMS-caching the PDSE?  See APARS II14026 OA15322 for hints.

db

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I have a situation where there are high EXCP counts against a PDSE 
STEPLIB, but a GTF trace of the target volume shows no actual I/O. Does
anyone know whether VLF accumulates fake EXCPs, perhaps to 
reflect what would be the case if it (VLF) wasn't active?

Thanks,
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Re: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT

2007-07-27 Thread Ed Gould

On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Thomas Conley wrote:
SNIP--


Let me know if you've had problems like this in IDCAMS, so I can  
flesh out the

requirement.  War stories, comments, etc. also appreciated.

Regards,
Tom Conley



Tom,

I have done 2 or 3 repromergecats in my lifetime and never had an  
issue (that I can remember) with region sizes. I tend not to use  
region=0M. The number of entries was easily several thousand each  
time. I don't think it was ever on z/os though.


Ed

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Usage of KB and KiB

2007-07-27 Thread Bruce Hewson
Well folks,

until M$ came along, and before KiB became a standard, I was taught the 
convention as:

Disk: always use decimal value,   i.e. KB = 1000 Bytes.

Memory: always use binary value, i.e. KB = 1024 Bytes.

That made it easy:.

Now with M$ (and others), you never know where they use 1000 or use 1024 
in their arithmetic to calculate the number they report to you on memory or 
disk usage. Very much like the Mix-N-Match shops.

Which is one reason I seem to always use Tracks/Cylinders when 
reporting/allocation 3390 dasd space (assumptions gone).

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:50:31 -0400, Danielle Duarte 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I would like the opportunity to find out from experts in the field like
yourselves, what you feel the job market should be offering for
individuals with MVS - Z/OS skills?

You can always respond confidentially to me directly at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you again for your time!


More than the 'admins' on those other boxes where the company allows them 
to reboot any time of the day or night to fix their problems but expect the 
mainframe to stay up 24x7.

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Re: XMIT loses the AC(1) attribute

2007-07-27 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:05:03 -0500, Mark H. Young 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:12:07 -0400, Pinnacle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just XMITted a load module and it lost the AC(1) attribute.  Anybody know
if that's a bug or a feature?

Regards,
Tom Conley


You *ARE* using IBM's XMIT (Transmit), right?!

The 3270 emulation software you are using to connect your TSO session
(we use Hummingbird, there are others), does it have any known problems
with the file transfer protocol?  That could be where it's getting clobbered?


A bit of a stretch suggesting the terminal emulator managed to change the AC 
field inside a transmit file and did not destroy anything else. Another stretch 
in 
another post to imply a loadlib needs to be authorized in order to hold AC(1) 
load modules.

And while a PDS and PDSE are handled a little differently, not really when it 
comes to carrying along the directory entries verbatim.

I would have you check the original PDS and make sure it indeed had AC(1), 
then transmit it to a dataset. Send it to me and I can check it using my PC 
based rexx that does receive from a transmit file. And make sure after you did 
the receive that nothing else came along and relinked the module without AC
(1).

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