Upgrading from a z890 to a z9 BC
Hi, Our management has decided to upgrade one of our z890's. IBM has recommended we upgrade to a z9 BC. We currently have two z890 that are in a basic sysplex. We are running z/OS 1.7. We also run a z800 that is not connected to the sysplex. The z800 is controlled by the same HMC as the z890's. As far as I remember the z9 BC uses a linux based HMC. Do we have to use the Linux based HMC If we do, can it control the z890 and z800 we will have in the HMC network. Will it be able to work together with the other OS/2 based HMC we have. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM System/3 3277-1
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If memory hasn't failed me, we read mark sense cards on something that was called a 1230. We didn't have one in the computing center. It was in a separate laboratory somewhere in the School of Education. We sent the decks over there. I don't remember what we got back. I think the 1230 may have punched the marked card. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#71 IBM System/3 3277-1 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#2 IBM System/3 3277-1 wiki mark sense page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_sense mentions that 513, 514, 557, and 519 could handle mark sense. also has pointer to 805 test scoring machine. 513 514 reproducing punches could handle mark sense ... so it is possible that a 513/514 had preprossed the mark sense student registration cards ... and the 2540 was only processing the reproduced punch cards (and i just not paying that much attention). the wiki reference also has url for 513/514 (pdf) reference manual -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM System/3 3277-1
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3277 had quite a bit of local intelligence ... it was possible to do some custom stuff in the terminal that changed the repeat start-delay and repeat ... as well as adding fifo to handle keyboard locking up if you happen to be typing when the system went to (re)write something on the screen. the move to 3274 controller for 3278/3279/etc terminals ... moved all that intelligence back into the controller ... reducing amount of electronics and manufacturing costs. with electronics moved back into controller ... it also degraded performance and response. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#7 IBM System/3 3277-1 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#8 IBM System/3 3277-1 somebody picking around in some of the referenced old postings, sent private email asking about reference to ANR download being 2-3 times baster than DCA download ... and what was ANR ... other than APPN Automatic Networking Routing. ANR was3272/3277 ... vis-a-vis DCA 3274/3278-9. In addition to DCA having slower human (real terminal) response ... because so much of the electronics had been moved back into controller, it also affected later terminal emulation download thruput. quicky search engine for 3277 anr turns up http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2007-September/084640.html misc. past posts mentioning terminal emulation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation as client/server started to proliferate ... the communication group made various attempts (like SAA) to protect their terminal emulation install base. when we came up with 3tier/multi-tier architecture ... we took lots of heat from the sna and saa forces. misc. posts mentioning coming up with multitier networking architecture http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier for other drift ... APPN started out as AWP164. For a time, the person responsible and I used to report to the same executive. I would periodically chide him that the communication group didn't appreciate what he was doing and that he should instead work on real networking (like tcp/ip). In fact, the communication group non-concurred with announcing APPN. After some delay and escalation, the announcement letter was carefully rewritten to not state any connection between APPN and SNA. of course we were also running hsdt project ... misc. posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt and recent post illustrating gap between what we were doing and what the communication group was doing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#64 part of the issue was that in early days of SNA ... my wife had co-authored AWP39 ... peer-to-peer networking ... which the communication group possibly viewed as competitive with their communication activity. she was then con'ed into going to pok to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture and was frequently battling with SNA forces that it wasn't appropriate for loosely-coupled operation. She came up with peer-coupled shared data architecture ... which didn't see a lot of uptake until sysplex ... except for IMS hot-standby ... misc. past references http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#shareddata recent posts mentioning ASWP39 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#9 Mainframe vs. Server (Was Just another example of mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#48 6400 impact printer http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#55 Is computer history taugh now? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#35 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#39 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#62 Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#72 FICON tape drive? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#12 JES2 or JES3, Which one is older? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#23 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#46 Are there tasks that don't play by WLM's rules -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPL an LPAR with a very low weight?
The customer wants the small LPAR to come up on request only and we want to give the MIPS from the small LPAR to the one weighted at 47, i.e. raise it to 56. It sounds like the best/safest thing to do is NOT make the weight=1. The box usually is not 100% busy, but can be depending on activity. Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Tel 856 566-5412 * Mobile 609 781-0353 * Fax 856 566-3656 CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: Al Sherkow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU; Thorn, David Subject: Re: IPL an LPAR with a very low weight? Hi Dave -- I suspect you wouldn't be considering this unless you were having problems with CPU resource contention in the two big LPARs (at 47 and 43). What kind of machine is this? how many engines? If this small LPAR is down, and the box is nearly 100% busy, IPLing this LPAR will be very slow, and this small LPAR may slow down the others in the sysplex and MIM. What is the real problem you are trying to solve? Al Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VARY too many devices offline
In a message dated 10/25/2007 1:15:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would you do with dishonest consultants? The same thing you do with dishonest interns, trainees, employees, managers, CEOs, Chairmen of the Board, etc. And it depends on who you is. A you with sufficient authority must be found to take the needed action and who can take into consideration all the repercussions of his action, such as the effect on morale if he does or does not do what many think he should. Consultants do not have a monopoly on dishonesty or making mistakes. Nor do employees have a monopoly on company loyalty. One size still does not fit all. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: problems(probably) in SSL after migration from WAS3.5 to WAS5.1
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:46:31 -0500, Pawel Leszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any other applications on this WAS instance? How are they performing? How is your JVM garbage collection? How do your RMF reports look? there are any RMF reports on WAS5.1? can you give me any sample? Assuming you are running in goal mode, and you have your tranactional CB work defined with a response-time goal, in your workload activity report your corresponding service class entry will tell you how many transactions ended during the period, etc. Tons of good info there, but what may interest you the most is the entries under waiting. The bloody infoCenter is down right now, otherwise I'd post a link with the descriptions of the waiting codes. You can also look in the Performance Monitoring and Tuning guide. There is a section on WLM Delay Monitoring. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/webserver/appserv/zos_os390/v5 1/bbo5j102.pdf If you are not familiar with how to assign your transactions to a particular transaction class/service class/reporting class, I will post a link as soon as the infoCenter is available. REPORT BY: POLICY=MYPOLICYWORKLOAD=WEBSPHERE SERVICE CLASS=WASTNX RE CRITICAL =NONE TRANSACTIONS TRANS-TIME HHH.MM.SS.TTT --DASD I/O-- ---SERVICE- --- SERVI AVG 2.61 ACTUAL 150 SSCHRT 11.0 IOC 0 CPU MPL 2.61 EXECUTION139 RESP 1.8 CPU 99003K SRB ENDED 12513 QUEUED11 CONN 0.9 MSO 0 RCT END/S 13.90 R/S AFFIN 0 DISC 0.8 SRB 0 IIT #SWAPS 0 INELIGIBLE 0 Q+PEND 0.2 TOT 99003K HST EXCTD 0 CONVERSION 0 IOSQ 0.0 /SEC 109975 AAP AVG ENC 2.61 STD DEV1.985IIP REM ENC 0.00 ABSRPTN42K MS ENC 0.00 TRX SERV 42K RESP STATE SAMPLES BREAKDOWN (% SUBP TIME --ACTIVE-- READY IDLE -WAITING TYPE(%) SUB APPL TYP3 CBBTE 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 CBEXE 121 5.1 89.3 0.0 0.0 5.6 GOAL: RESPONSE TIME 000.00.00.500 FOR 50% What kind of delays? how to see what kind of delays they are? What other kind of work is on this box? Is the WAS work priority reasonable with relation to your other work? Do you have the STC set to a velocity goal, and the WAS work (CB) set to a response-time goal? its definitely not a problem with CPU capacity(total utilization is very small) WAS is not waiting for CPU,I doubt also its problem with WLM settings. Its looks like a classical bottleneck but i dont know where. moreover its strange that the same application works fine on WAS3.1 and very poorly on WAS5.1 problem appears when there are many concurrent requests A lot of my questions are more background than necessarily pertinent to the question (you never know). How do you know that there are many concurrent requests? (It's much easier to track this real-time when you are using an HTTP Server front-end) When it was WAS3.5, was it also running on z/OS? What service level of WAS and Java are you running? I assume this is a webapp - no EJBs or other loveliness. So, the performance is only bad when the load is heavy? If the load then slacks off, does the performance return to acceptable levels, or does the performance just get worse as the day goes on? Do you have verbosegc turned on, and how does that output look? That should always be turned on in all of your JVMs. Are there any backend resources involved, and are they performing admirably? Do you use Tivoli Performance Viewer, or whatever it was called in 5.1? If you'd rather respond off-list, that's fine. Aaron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
In a message dated 10/24/2007 12:52:33 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious If I can induce a Machine check without actually messing with the pysical machine... Yes. Any of the 6 interrupt classes can be induced as follows: your authorized program (must be authorized) simply does a LPSW that points to the new PSW location for the interrupt you wish to induce. The wisdom and repercussions of doing this I leave to others. If you wish the induced interrupt to cause a particular action, then you must first disable interrupts and store data in the POO-defined storages areas that that particular interrupt is involved with so that the interrupt processing routine will act as you wish. E.g., when a machine-check interrupt occurs, data is stored in the machine-check logout area that describes the exact nature and location of the failure. When an I/O interrupt occurs, two full words are stored in predefined areas in PSA that are related to the device from which the interrupt came. Be sure to do all this dangerous learning on a test system running under VM or on a P/390 where you have complete hands-on control and where no other work will be impacted, as you will also have the opportunity to do many reIPLs. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VARY too many devices offline
On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:07 AM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 10/25/2007 1:15:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would you do with dishonest consultants? The same thing you do with dishonest interns, trainees, employees, managers, CEOs, Chairmen of the Board, etc. And it depends on who you is. A you with sufficient authority must be found to take the needed action and who can take into consideration all the repercussions of his action, such as the effect on morale if he does or does not do what many think he should. Consultants do not have a monopoly on dishonesty or making mistakes. Nor do employees have a monopoly on company loyalty. One size still does not fit all. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN Bill, Point taken. Since the company I worked for was non-confrontational the whole incident was more or less swept under the carpet. Except for the additional person that was hired to keep any future trespassing from happening nothing really happened. It was a strange company as employees were extremely loyal and honest. There was no money handling (that I ever heard of) (except for petty cash) that was done at the site so honesty was really never an issue. They were strict when it came to expense accounts as one time I got called up and about a dinner I had at GUIDE and I had to redo parts of the expense report. I just reshuffled the distribution around. They grumbled a little bit. But it wasn't like I was extravagant I think I marked down I had a 26 dollar dinner (I was allowed $20). (this was in the 70's) . The computer operations was the hot spot about firing people. The manager there was the man. He ran his ship like a captain in the 1600's, he let his managers get away with murder but the peons (operators) were regularly whipped. Despite that the operators were extremely loyal and really did work. The company (division) was pretty much run on a almost family type basis. The operations being the exception to the rule. I was not aware of the severe politics of the corporate headquarters until I was temporarily assigned there a few years later. I was asked to stay on but said no because of the politics. I am sure of this had occurred out of the corporate HQ that they would have been fired on the spot. We had a few political people that worked in the DC that made major mistakes that almost cost the company millions of dollars and they skated through without being fired (although in truth they were put in positions of less importance). The point to this was that people that were not employed by the company (consultants) were held to a different level than employees, it was a much more restrictive level. Just by that level alone they should have been let go. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICKDSF - PARMS
In a message dated 10/27/2007 5:47:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look for something like IOS000 (IOS001, etc.) as an IBM message number. Then tell us everything on that line and all subsequent lines that are part of the same message. I don't mean this in a nasty way; try looking up what the messages mean before hitting the list. I assumed the poster had done his homework before posting. But if he had he probably would not have posted the original question. And novices have no clue what messages mean, even when they look them up in the doc, if they don't understand the technical words used in the message and its documented explanation. Back to education, enlightened management, etc. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:02 AM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 10/24/2007 12:52:33 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious If I can induce a Machine check without actually messing with the pysical machine... Yes. Any of the 6 interrupt classes can be induced as follows: your authorized program (must be authorized) simply does a LPSW that points to the new PSW location for the interrupt you wish to induce. The wisdom and repercussions of doing this I leave to others. If you wish the induced interrupt to cause a particular action, then you must first disable interrupts and store data in the POO-defined storages areas that that particular interrupt is involved with so that the interrupt processing routine will act as you wish. E.g., when a machine-check interrupt occurs, data is stored in the machine-check logout area that describes the exact nature and location of the failure. When an I/O interrupt occurs, two full words are stored in predefined areas in PSA that are related to the device from which the interrupt came. Be sure to do all this dangerous learning on a test system running under VM or on a P/390 where you have complete hands-on control and where no other work will be impacted, as you will also have the opportunity to do many reIPLs. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN Snip- Bill: Which brings up an interesting point. Does a P390 have a machine check light on it? :) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
my free mainframe product
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my free mfnetdisk product
My new product is ready, and it can be used for free. Thousands visitors to the new site and hundreds of downloads. Some product's features: 1. Emulates MVS 3390 disk with data on PC. 2. Mirroring MVS standard 3390 (IBM, EMC, HDS etc...) disks to PC. 3. Simple DR for MVS 3390 disks in remote using the PC in no time. 4. Simple and faster backup and restore any 3390 disks from PC backups files. 5. Sharing 3390 disks between remote MVS (standard MF and / or any MF emulation). 6. More and more. To play with my product please go to www.mfnetdisk.com. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
However, if my program is also running disabled for external interrupts and it uses CPU cycles heavily , how will the system 'pre-empt' my TCB? Or it cannot and just let my TCB starve other users? I cannot figure out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but selective disablement is different than preemptibility. An interrupt handler will normally return control to the dispatcher, which may reorder its queue and dispatch a task other than the one which was interrupted. However, that is not true if the task is non-preemptible. I.e., it will be immediately redispatched after the interrupt is handled. This behavior applies mainly to tasks running under SRB mode. Subsystems like DB2 and HSM, which make heavy use of non-preemptible SRBs used to have a tendency to monopolize processor resources, hence the creation of preemptible-class SRBs. Consider this: zIIP and zAAPs, which run disabled for I/O interrupts, process preemptible SRB work. The work must be preemptible in order for the dispatcher to honor priorities according to WLM service goals. Another thing to consider is reduced preemption. I think this strategy came about in the latter days of MVS/ESA. The idea was to delay handling of interrupts at low utilization levels to allow otherwise preemptible work to complete, thereby reducing the overhead of reentering the dispatcher as often. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: About dispatching process -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VARY too many devices offline
snip Q: What would you do with dishonest consultants? A: The same thing you do with dishonest interns, trainees, employees, managers, CEOs, Chairmen of the Board, etc. And it depends on who you is. A you with sufficient authority must be found to take the needed action and who can take into consideration all the repercussions of his action, such as the effect on morale if he does or does not do what many think he should. Consultants do not have a monopoly on dishonesty or making mistakes. Nor do employees have a monopoly on company loyalty. One size still does not fit all. --unsnip- 100% agreement, as far as it goes. Complete honesty and integrity have to be the top priority, but not the only one. I maintain that discrimination on the basis of ability is still an acceptable practice, provided methods of improvement are available. An operator who makes a mistake because of lack of education should have an oppurtunity to learn, and should be better supervised. An operator who willingly diverts funds, or other resources, to his private use and profit, to the company's detriment, should be terminated and, if possible and feasable, prosecuted. Every employee has an obligation to safeguard the stockholders from unethical and/or illegal activities that cause losses, either financial or in the public image of the company (resulting in indirect losses). As systems programmers, regardless of the actual title, we hold positions of high trust and, as such, we need to set high examples. Like Caesar's wife, Calpurnia, we have to not only BE pure, but also be PERCEIVED as pure. And we need to set an example for the PFCSK's that will follow us! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
---snip I am curious If I can induce a Machine check without actually messing with the pysical machine... Yes. Any of the 6 interrupt classes can be induced as follows: your authorized program (must be authorized) simply does a LPSW that points to the new PSW location for the interrupt you wish to induce. The wisdom and repercussions of doing this I leave to others. If you wish the induced interrupt to cause a particular action, then you must first disable interrupts and store data in the POO-defined storages areas that that particular interrupt is involved with so that the interrupt processing routine will act as you wish. E.g., when a machine-check interrupt occurs, data is stored in the machine-check logout area that describes the exact nature and location of the failure. When an I/O interrupt occurs, two full words are stored in predefined areas in PSA that are related to the device from which the interrupt came. Be sure to do all this dangerous learning on a test system running under VM or on a P/390 where you have complete hands-on control and where no other work will be impacted, as you will also have the opportunity to do many reIPLs. -unsnip- I've got a better idea: JUST SAY NO! I'm sure that whatever reason you may have for wanting to take this action, there's a better, and safer way, to accomplish your end. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
In a message dated 10/28/2007 9:44:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does a P390 have a machine check light on it? :) Beats me. I had a P/390 years ago but don't any more, and can't remember if it had any lights at all. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
Does a P390 have a machine check light on it? :) Beats me. I had a P/390 years ago but don't any more, and can't remember if it had any lights at all. None that I recall. I was after all, just a great big grey PC with an S/390 card grafted on. All of what real(tm) system users would think of as a service processor was implemented as an OS/2 application. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: About dispatching process
On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Craddock, Chris wrote: Does a P390 have a machine check light on it? :) Beats me. I had a P/390 years ago but don't any more, and can't remember if it had any lights at all. None that I recall. I was after all, just a great big grey PC with an S/390 card grafted on. All of what real(tm) system users would think of as a service processor was implemented as an OS/2 application. CC Chris, I did not think it had, thanks for answering. BTW its hard to tell the difference between virtual and real anymore except on the holodeck. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RMF and DASD Storage Display
We are running z/OS V1.7. When I go into the RMF panels, it is not displaying the storage groups or the dasd space. Where do I need to look to understand why I am not seeing this in the panels? Thanks, I think I maybe having a senior moment. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IEWBIND FUNC=GETD CLASS=B_IDRB
Hi, for the IEWBIND FUNC=GETD, RETCODE=IRETCODE, RSNCODE=RSNCODE, WORKMOD=IEW_WKTOKEN, CLASS=IEW_IDB, SECTION=IEW_SECTION, AREA=IEWBIDB, CURSOR=IEW_CURSORD, COUNT=IEW_COUNTD, VERSION=4, MF=(E,IEWBIND) I always get zero entries for IEW_COUNTD regardless of PDS or PDSE. It was my understanding that this should be always present and contains the Binder-Info. Regards Roland Roland Schiradin ALTE LEIPZIGER Lebensversicherung auf Gegenseitigkeit IT Betrieb - DB/DC Tel. (06171) 66-4095, Fax (06171) 66-7500-4095 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Alte-Leipziger.de -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM Confidential
In some cases we had flight numbers. So with moderate effort you could reproduce the list of attendees. Giggle. I'd forgotten this bit until I got an email today. Hi, Peter - hope the fish are OK. The Connaught and the Hilton (for that was where IBM met) shared a courtesy bus from Dublin airport. We didn't realise this until some people were already in the air, so we had to book a few cab companies to aggressively find and scrape away our people from the arriving flight before IBM saw any of them. He he. I have it on very good authority that a number of IBMers passed a cab driver holdng up a sign saying: Phil Payne - Amdahl without turning a hair. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF SWITCHING WITH IEFU29
Hi everyone. Sorry for the delay in replying to the several most helpful suggestions for which I am most grateful. Root cause identified and solved. I had in fact assembled and linked the exit correctly into user.lpalib. USER.LPALIB is #1 in the LPALSTXX concatenation. LPALSTXX (actually LPALSTDB) is being selected at IPL time. SYS1.LPALIB is in fact referenced about 2/3's of the way down in the LPALSTXX member. BUT, at least on z/OS 1.5, a copy of SYS1.LPALIB is always, and under the covers, prepended to the LPALST so that it gets selected first even if its included in the list. As a result, the dummy IEEU29 was being used. It, of course, does nothing, and does it quietly. So, I renamed the bogus IEEU29 to IEEU29BG (for bogus), reipled and away go my SMF datasets. The default IEEU29 appears to also have a hard restriction on DSN length of 4 characters after the period. In response to Mark's query, MULCFUNC -- DEFAULT MEMLIMIT(0M) -- DEFAULT DDCONS(YES) -- DEFAULT LASTDS(MSG) -- DEFAULT NOBUFFS(MSG) -- DEFAULT SYNCVAL(00) -- DEFAULT INTVAL(30) -- DEFAULT DUMPABND(RETRY) -- DEFAULT SUBSYS(STC,NOTYPE(19,69,99,110)) -- SYS SUBSYS(STC,NODETAIL) -- SYS SUBSYS(STC,INTERVAL(SMF)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFUSO)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFUJP)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU84)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU29)) -- PARMLIB SID(SYS1) -- PARMLIB SYS(NOINTERVAL) -- DEFAULT SYS(NODETAIL) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFU29)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFUJI)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFUSI)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFACTRT)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFU84)) -- PARMLIB SYS(EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB SYS(NOTYPE(19,69,99,110)) -- PARMLIB LISTDSN -- PARMLIB JWT(1800) -- PARMLIB STATUS(01) -- PARMLIB MAXDORM(3000) -- PARMLIB REC(PERM) -- PARMLIB NOPROMPT -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN16) -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN15) -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN14) -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN13) -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN12) -- PARMLIB DSNAME(SYS1.MN11) -- PARMLIB ACTIVE -- PARMLIB SUBPARM(SVAA(250,2,5,7)) -- PARMLIB Ed Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I have finished upgrading one of my 7060's to the latest, and last version of z/OS 1.5. The one remaining, nagging, issue it has, is the DUMPXY exit aka IEFU29 doesn't seem to execute when I issue a i smf command. The previous system it worked fine. Load modules are same length;both are in USER.LPALIB. I am certain its something I've done, but darned if I know what it is. Any and all suggestions most appreciated. As you can see from the following, the exit is being seen, and loaded properly, its not being heard however. CSV550I 18.21.37 LPA DISPLAY 581 FLAGS MODULE ENTRY PT LOAD PT LENGTH DIAG P IEFU29 8507FA68 0507FA68 0020 08C1C860 CSV461I 18.21.37 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 584 EXIT MODULE STATE MODULE STATE MODULE STATE SYS.IEFU29 IEFU29 A CSV461I 18.21.37 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 585 EXIT MODULE STATE MODULE STATE MODULE STATE SYSSTC.IEFU29 IEFU29 A Edward Long Edward Long -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF SWITCHING WITH IEFU29
On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Ed Long wrote: Hi everyone. Sorry for the delay in replying to the several most helpful suggestions for which I am most grateful. Root cause identified and solved. I had in fact assembled and linked the exit correctly into user.lpalib. USER.LPALIB is #1 in the LPALSTXX concatenation. LPALSTXX (actually LPALSTDB) is being selected at IPL time. SYS1.LPALIB is in fact referenced about 2/3's of the way down in the LPALSTXX member. BUT, at least on z/OS 1.5, a copy of SYS1.LPALIB is always, and under the covers, prepended to the LPALST so that it gets selected first even if its included in the list. As a result, the dummy IEEU29 was being used. It, of course, does nothing, and does it quietly. So, I renamed the bogus IEEU29 to IEEU29BG (for bogus), reipled and away go my SMF datasets. The default IEEU29 appears to also have a hard restriction on DSN length of 4 characters after the period. Ed: Check to see which version of IEFU29 you have. There was at least one bug I found in the CBIPO version and it was at least 5 years before we hit the bug. I don't have the source for it, but IIRC I found a really old reference to the bug on IBMLINK. Not sure how to tell you if you have the most recent version but look at the assembled output and see if there is a change that occurred in or before 2000 +- 5 years (probably -5 years). IIRC it was a small change. If you have the most recent version take a look at CBTTAPE.ORG for a newer version. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Outsmarting WLM
I would never consider any of this except as a last resort. And even then I wouldn't want to support it. Who would want to maintain all that bloat-ware. Barbara, can't you convince whomever needs to be convinced that SYSSTC should be tried? At this point, no, not really. The problem is basically testing. The test system is already semi-production, and here we have several IMSs that have a higher priority than this product. (Different from real production). For the time being we're going with cpu critical, first in test. Currently I am the only one following up on this. Nobody is currently screaming, so everybody has forgotten about it. Setting it to sysstc wil be the measure to take when someone screams again. The 'little program' is a challenge to me. Did I mention I am unix illiterate? So I'll make this a foray into the shallows of unix, and should push come to shove, I have a joker to get out of my sleeve Best regards, Barbara -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPL an LPAR with a very low weight?
Our sysprog sandplex has very low weight, like 5% of 1 processor or some such. When the box is full (running 98-100%) not only does it take forever to shut that lpar down, it also takes forever to IPL it. The duration in itself is not the problem, but automation (SA/390 V3) has almost everything in stuck status because things don't terminate in automations' (usually sufficient) timeout-interval. At which point you do a manual shutdown! Coming back up usually isn't as bad, as automation has everything in started2, but recognizes when things are finally 'up'. And don't get me started on XCF communication! We have a permanent vote to keep the automation manager from starting on one system in the sysplex, simply because that one has a lower weight than the others in the plex. Once the automation manager is on that system, XCF communication regularly times out, and then the shutdown is stuck. (This is not the sysprog sandplex!) Regards, Barbara Nitz -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
