Re: Backups (was Virginia DOT outage)
Richard L Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu wrote in message news:4c85308b.1010...@neo.tamu.edu... On 9/3/2010 7:41 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 3 Sep 2010 15:52:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 9/3/2010 5:36 PM, Gerhard Adam wrote: The way I read the articles, there was mirroring and the failure of primary was made disastrous by the failure of the mirroring device. If this is the case, what are the probabilities of the same thing on IBM devices regardless of the operating system? That's probably true. After all, who would ever think to have more than one backup. Mirroring doesn't equal backup. Mirroring will happily duplicate bad data written by a misbehaving program (or by misbehaving hardware for that matter). And a backup program will blithely copy bad data to the backup mechanism. Yes, but with mirroring it is already to late when the change occurs. With a backup you have a chance to restore the bad data if you catch it in time. We do backups every night, and keep them for at least a month. The applications folks do their own backups as well, and may keep them longer. It is certainly possible to not realize the problem until the backup is no longer available, but at least you have a chance. -- Richard And mirroring will also happily promote a delete request to the other side. A backup will be there in case of an unintended delete. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Need a simple counter
Hi Sometimes I would need a simple SYSTEM/SYSTEMS/SYSPLEX wide counter, for every call gives back the next number. (Seen maybe in CICS ?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
REXX compiler for CGI REXX execs
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Re: Code names for zSeries
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re-locating the cursor into the primary command line within an ispf edit macro
hi all, if you apply ISREDIT FIND ... ISREDIT CHANGE ... or similar ispf edit macro commands, the cursor is placed in the corresponding text line. when the macro terminates, and the edit panel appears, the cursor always resides in any of these lines. we did not find any way to relocate the cursor into the primary command line. did anybody achieve that already? many thanks for any tip! best stephen --- Dr. Stephen Fedtke Enterprise-IT-Security.com Seestrasse 3a CH-6300 Zug Switzerland Tel. ++41-(0)41-710-4005 www.enterprise-it-security.com ++NEWS++ SF-LoginHood provides state-of-the-art password, phrase and login security for z/OS ++NEWS++ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Me too! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. 1. Try to sign in with account name and password I remember. (Same as IBMLink account.) ... etc... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available On Sep 3, 2010, at 16:47, Steve Comstock wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d578198525 71c500428f9a Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: re-locating the cursor into the primary command line within an ispf edit macro
The manual indicates: Note: To position the cursor on the command line, issue a return code of 1 from the macro. For example, in CLIST code EXIT CODE(1) as the last statement in your EDIT MACRO to position the cursor on the command line. Best regards, David Tidy IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf Dow Benelux B.V. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dr. Stephen Fedtke Sent: 07 September 2010 10:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: re-locating the cursor into the primary command line within an ispf edit macro hi all, if you apply ISREDIT FIND ... ISREDIT CHANGE ... or similar ispf edit macro commands, the cursor is placed in the corresponding text line. when the macro terminates, and the edit panel appears, the cursor always resides in any of these lines. we did not find any way to relocate the cursor into the primary command line. did anybody achieve that already? many thanks for any tip! best stephen --- Dr. Stephen Fedtke Enterprise-IT-Security.com Seestrasse 3a CH-6300 Zug Switzerland Tel. ++41-(0)41-710-4005 www.enterprise-it-security.com ++NEWS++ SF-LoginHood provides state-of-the-art password, phrase and login security for z/OS ++NEWS++ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:28:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:31:19 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: Used longer-than-80 a few times for entering shell script as in-stream data. Why should Kirk be much concerned with supporting the Unix lunatic fringe? I don't know. I only wanted to state the fact that I sometimes need to kick off a shell script in batch and that the text of the script sometimes has lines longer than 80 characters. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:10:22 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:28:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Used longer-than-80 a few times for entering shell script as in-stream data. Why should Kirk be much concerned with supporting the Unix lunatic fringe? I don't know. I only wanted to state the fact that I sometimes need to kick off a shell script in batch and that the text of the script sometimes has lines longer than 80 characters. That was irony. I know that Kirk has a strong interest in Unix, as do I. BTW, a last resort method for continuing a statement in a shell script is to introduce an empty command substitution: echo 'foo'$( )'bar' But, yes, I'd prefer to have longer lines available. And for Ted's remark concerning ISPF SUBMIT vs. TSO, that's a detail of implementation that the user wanting an enhancement shouldn't need to be concerned with. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80
And for Ted's remark concerning ISPF SUBMIT vs. TSO, that's a detail of
implementation that the user wanting an enhancement shouldn't need to be
concerned with.
Possibly.
But, most used to know it.
It was documented as part of the ISPF user's guide, which also told you that
ISPF would reformat the file (to a temp file) and then issue a TSO submit of
the temp.
The issue could become.
Request to ISPF team: fix ISPF SUBMIT.
ISPF team: that's part of TSO/E -- not our problem.
Of course, that would never happen, would it? (8-{]}
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I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
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z/VSE name/token services
I have created a persistent name/token pair on z/VSE using IEANTCR. A subsequent delete using IEANTDL gives a retun code of zero, but if I then retrieve the name/token using IEANTRT the 'deleted' token is returned. Is this a feature of the VSE implementation? Can one delete a persisent name/token pair on VSE? Thanks Steve - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571 c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX
Lizette,
ISRTSO is Option 6's panel. I suppose it's one way to issue the command string.
Bob
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Lizette Koehler
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Subject: Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX
The Archives had this bit of code from 2008.
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.tsorexx/msg/957c30e301fc76db
I would check out the entire thread to see what they came up with. Note:
This was in the TSO REXX newsgroup. If you are at z/OS V1.9 or above, then
the SDSF REXX interface would probably make it easier. I am not sure what
ISRTSO is in this example.
/* Rexx */
Arg Tr_parm
If Tr_parm '' then
do;trace_on=1;Tr_parm='TRACE 'Tr_parm;interpret Tr_parm;end
else trace_on = 0
commands = SDSF da;pre d901*;sort jobname
Address 'ISPEXEC'
'DISPLAY PANEL (ISRTSO) COMMAND('commands') RETBUFFR('bufname')
RETLGTH('lngname')'
I have not tried this. But this might be what you are looking for.
Lizette
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Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Need a simple counter Hi Sometimes I would need a simple SYSTEM/SYSTEMS/SYSPLEX wide counter, for every call gives back the next number. (Seen maybe in CICS ?) Perhaps you are thinking of CICS 4.1's Named Counter? https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v4r1/index.jsp This is not a z/OS facility and so is not directly accessible by anything other than a CICS transaction. Yes, I know about EXCI from a non-CICS address space. That is possible, but a bit more complicated. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:44:25 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: The issue could become. Request to ISPF team: fix ISPF SUBMIT. ISPF team: that's part of TSO/E -- not our problem. Requestor: Then avoid the use of TSO/E. Yes, there are various places where the F/80 restriction is documented. Obviously, a request to remove a restriction implies removing the documentation of that restriction and removing dependency on any services that impose that restriction. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
I even just tried creating a new ID, which still doesn't work. And used IE instead of Firefox. Something is busted. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
Hi I think to something similar for NON CICS On 9/7/2010 2:27 PM, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Need a simple counter Hi Sometimes I would need a simple SYSTEM/SYSTEMS/SYSPLEX wide counter, for every call gives back the next number. (Seen maybe in CICS ?) Perhaps you are thinking of CICS 4.1's Named Counter? https://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v4r1/index.jsp This is not a z/OS facility and so is not directly accessible by anything other than a CICS transaction. Yes, I know about EXCI from a non-CICS address space. That is possible, but a bit more complicated. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. No workie. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of zMan I even just tried creating a new ID, which still doesn't work. And used IE instead of Firefox. Something is busted. Indeed. So much for the single IBM Sign-on ID concept. IBM apparently has reached a point where it has too many left hands that aren't aware even of the concept that right hands might exist. So now I have one ID for IBMLink, a second for ShopzSeries, and now a third that doesn't work for anything. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SVCDUMP Control
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John C., others... On the mainframe assembler list, Tony Thigpen posted that he has kindly hosted the doc at http://vse2pdf.com/coolstuff/sa22-7832-08.pdf I hope IBM doesn't decide to send the spooks after him. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On 09/05/2010 04:55 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 5 Sep 2010 14:17:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 09/05/2010 02:25 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: I'll give you another oxymoron: journalistic integrity Today, it's becoming rarer and rarer and I suspect will die out completely in our lifetimes. :-( Now, now. Lumping all journalists in one boat is as unfair as putting all computers into the same category. Some of us go to a fair amount of trouble to verify everything we write about. Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important facts wrong, such as names, ages, and confusing an employment address with a home address. Whether that's incompetence or just the rush to publish is unclear. None of them were malicious -- none of them improved (or hurt) the story for anyone who didn't already know those facts -- but it does speak to a certain lack of verification. ...phsiii I suspect the original sentiment was prompted by so many on cable news and talk shows that like to classify themselves as journalists when all they do is report the latest rumour without analysis as to validity, or referee opposing speakers as if all sides of an argument have equal validity. Not that infrequently these days, one side of an argument is just flat-out wrong and should be reported that way. A real journalist would not allow a guest speaker to build an argument from facts that are really falsehoods (lies) without immediately calling him to task - but that of course requires the journalist to have done his homework and know more than the person being interviewed - a rare quality now days. People who are notorious for promoting demonstrable falsehoods should not be given free air time merely for the entertainment value, because there are unfortunately at least 20% of the population that will believe anything they hear on the air, no matter how ridiculous. As someone who was in a field where you can't get a consensus on whether JES2 is better than JES3 and who is a follower of transportation issues (and a member of Transport Action Atlantic), I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. Clark Morris JES2 or JES3 better is a subjective and a it depends question. People are entitled to their own opinions. Some of the political garbage out there would be a closer analogy to someone saying JES3 will be unsupported after z/OS 1.12 - something that is easily demonstrated to be false. Equally ridiculous statements are made daily on talk radio and talk TV without challenge. People are not entitled to their own facts! -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I think to something similar for NON CICS There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP Control
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP Control
Are you thinking of a generic SLIP trap that is ongoing? On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John C., others... On the mainframe assembler list, Tony Thigpen posted that he has kindly hosted the doc at http://vse2pdf.com/coolstuff/sa22-7832-08.pdf On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP Control
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options. On the CHNGDUMP (CD) operator command, there is the MAXSPACE option. And as of z/OS 1.11, there is also the AUXMGMT option. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
The only viable solution I can think of would be to use XCF/XES services - however that does not really fall under the simple category. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 07 September 2010 13:49 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I think to something similar for NON CICS There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
On 9/7/2010 6:47 AM, Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John C., others... On the mainframe assembler list, Tony Thigpen posted that he has kindly hosted the doc at http://vse2pdf.com/coolstuff/sa22-7832-08.pdf I hope IBM doesn't decide to send the spooks after him. -jc- Well, he said he would take it down if IBM asked, so best be quick, just to be sure. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Then I have no idea what to suggest. My ID is the same across IBMLINK, RESOURCELINK, SERVICELINK and ShopzSeries, if that makes a difference. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF REXX exec to read the actual job
Hi SDSF REXX try to read the actual , running job and got JCT NOT AVAILABLE , but it can read the active from anybody else. (sorry, I'm hyperactive today) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP Control
tyavm for ur prompt and precise replies that resolve the issue. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options. On the CHNGDUMP (CD) operator command, there is the MAXSPACE option. And as of z/OS 1.11, there is also the AUXMGMT option. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important facts wrong, such as names, ages, and confusing an employment address with a home address. Same with small news stories. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80
On 6 Sep 2010 09:30:03 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: Apparently IBM saw sufficient need or business case for the facility to invest the resource to provide it in JES2. Why stop short of supporting it in ISPF? The business case could be something like It doesn't cost much, it doesn't break anything, and we can use it in marketing. If one of those criteria were didn't apply with ISPF, then a different business case would be required. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important facts wrong, such as names, ages, and confusing an employment address with a home address. Same with small news stories. My favorite remains one in which the reporter duly cited witnesses thus: Witnesses said that the single-engine airplane apparently lost power in both engines. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virginia DOT outage
On 3 Sep 2010 17:41:48 -0700, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) wrote: Mirroring will happily duplicate bad data written by a misbehaving program (or by misbehaving hardware for that matter). And a backup program will blithely copy bad data to the backup mechanism. Sure, but we can go back to a back-up taken *before* the screw-up, provided we know about the screw-up in time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
Hello, I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made to it. Can anyone confirm this assumption? Is there any IBM documentation to this effect. (I have searched DFSMS manuals and the IBM-MAIN archive unsuccessfully.) Thanks, Rick Humburg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX
Absolutely not the most elegant way to do this, but: Call CallSDSF 'pre q*mstr;st' EXECio * diskr ISFOUT (finis stem Res.) free f(ISFOUT) CallSDSF: ARG Command Parse VAR Command Command1';'Command2';'Command3';'Command4';'Command5';'Rest Parse VAR RestCommand6';'Command7';'Command8';'Command9';'Command10';' Isfin_File = 'Userid().TEMP.ISFIN.FILE' Isfout_File = 'Userid().TEMP.ISFOUT.FILE' x = sysdsn(Isfin_File) If x = 'OK' Then Do delete Isfin_File End X = Sysdsn(Isfout_File) If X = 'OK' Then Do Delete Isfout_File End alloc f(ISFIN) da(Isfin_file) new space(1,1) tracks, dsorg(ps) recfm(f b) lrecl(80) unit(3390) CMD.1 = Command1 CMD.2 = Command2 CMD.3 = Command3 CMD.4 = Command4 CMD.5 = Command5 CMD.6 = Command6 CMD.7 = Command7 CMD.8 = Command8 CMD.9 = Command9 CMD.10 = Command10 CMD.0 = 10 EXECio * diskw ISFIN (finis stem Cmd.) FREE f(ISFIN) catalog alloc f(ISFOUT) da(isfout_file) new space(5,1) tracks, dsorg(ps) recfm(f b) lrecl(80) unit(3390) alloc f(ISFIN) da(Isfin_file) shr Address LINKMVS 'SDSF' Return George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX The part we are having problems with is passing the parameters to SDSF. We know how to do everything else. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX Hi, It's much simpler than that: The user has the job displayed in the editor. He Submits the job. The user enters a command on the command line, moves the cursor to the job name and presses enter The command performs the following functions: 1. get the job name from the cursor position 2. starts SDSF 3. enters the prefix command with the job name 4. enters the ST command. Okay, then what you want is an ISPF CMD or MACRO that you can use on the command line that will accept a parm (cursor selected position). Yes that can be done. Since I am not at work today, I would suggest that you look at Mark Zelden's website and see what he has done with various ISPF MACROs. Then look at the SDSF manual and see how to call SDSF and passing a parm. I would think an ISPF Macro would be a process that could do this for you. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN
Re: Storage not freed in IPCS dump
Micheal, If your storage lies in a DQE range then it was Allocated. If it was not part of any following FQE's..it means it was getmained. In other words FQE's represent free areas within an allocated area(DQE). Assuming the storage in question is Global and getmained..the following command will help you find details like owner etc: VERBX VSMDATA 'OWNCOMM DETAIL SORTBY(ADDR)' Issue: FIND '' Hope this helps. Santosh -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
On 7 Sep 2010 01:59:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. Post it because I am having the same problem and I am registered. Clark Morris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available On Sep 3, 2010, at 16:47, Steve Comstock wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d578198525 71c500428f9a Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
On 9/7/2010 10:00 AM, Rick Humburg wrote: Hello, I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made to it. Can anyone confirm this assumption? Is there any IBM documentation to this effect. (I have searched DFSMS manuals and the IBM-MAIN archive unsuccessfully.) Did you do an ACTIVATE after you added the new volume? -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP Control
Are you thinking of a generic SLIP trap that is ongoing? Yes, I just set the slip to say NODUMP or NOSVCD to suppress the SVC Dump portion. I have done this for specific tasks as well as for a pool of tasks. For any CICS* region or CICSABC region. I do not set it for the entire environment. There might be a SVC Dump I might need. So on for the tasks that are taking too many SVC Dumps. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:15:32 -0300, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: On 7 Sep 2010 01:59:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. Post it because I am having the same problem and I am registered. Clark Morris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available On Sep 3, 2010, at 16:47, Steve Comstock wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d578198525 71c500428f9a Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, Don't click on the link in the post. Instead, highlight and copy the link and paste it to the address line. This link is too long for this forum; hence the remainder of the link (i.e., the part on the second line) isn't carried forward. (And remember to remove the characters when wrapping the line.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made to it. Can anyone confirm this assumption? Is there any IBM documentation to this effect. (I have searched DFSMS manuals and the IBM-MAIN archive unsuccessfully.) Did you do an ACTIVATE after you added the new volume? Or if the Storage Pool already exists, you could do For Adding a volume via MVS Commands V SMS,VOL(x,?),XX,YY ? is ALL or specific system, xx is Q or E or D yy is N Q Quiesced D Disabled E Enabled N New Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
Rick I believe you might be referring to the fact that SMS will not report on space usage or capacity for the volume in the VLD until the first allocation is done. What does ISMF say about the volume from the active config? Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Humburg Sent: 07 September 2010 15:49 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group Hello, I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made to it. Can anyone confirm this assumption? Is there any IBM documentation to this effect. (I have searched DFSMS manuals and the IBM-MAIN archive unsuccessfully.) Thanks, Rick Humburg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC020I 001-1
If you did not explicitly create a PDS but allowed IEWL and JCL to create this library, is it possible a PDS-E was created instead? A program that tries to read a program object from a PDS-E if it were a load module from a PDS (by using BSAM) will abend with s001-01 . As someone on the list has mentioned before, the IGDSMSxx member can specify a default of LIBRARY instead of PDS in the DSNTYPE parameter. regards, Joe D'Alessandro -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JES2 display job id
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? $d'jobname' - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Awhile back I had similar problems. In the end I needed to REMOVE the IBM web addresses from my IE trusted sites list. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available Yea, I tried the user ID and password I use for all other accesses to IBM and it won't accept it. When I try to reregister with my email address it says it's already in use. What gives? Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www- 01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571 c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** ** If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. *** ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
I do see the jobid preceding the first $HASP890 message in the hardcopy record and displayed on the console. However, none of the returned $HASP890 messages have the jobid in the message text. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 display job id Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? A jobid is the job number, unless you are thinking of something else. $DJ'jobname' or $DJ'jobname',DETAIL will get you all the info on the job in JES2. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? A jobid is the job number, unless you are thinking of something else. $DJ'jobname' or $DJ'jobname',DETAIL will get you all the info on the job in JES2. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important facts wrong, such as names, ages, and confusing an employment address with a home address. Same with small news stories. ? mainstream modified news, not story. Stupid English. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX
Gadi, The easiest way is to move a value to zcmd seperated with semicolons. Another option is to use the command table. The idea is, again, use the zcmd field. Try this: 1.set your ispcmds to include a command called SDSF the invokes SDSF. 2. develop an empty ISPF panel (call it Pseudopan, if you use the example) 3. from Rexx put the following code: ADDRESS ISPEXEC CONTROL NONDISPL END NOCMD ADDRESS ISPEXEC DISPLAY PANEL(PSEUDOPAN) COMMAND(SDSF;PREFIX jobprefix||'*';s JOBNAME) ADDRESS ISPEXEC CONTROL NOCMD JobPref will include the job prefix for the prefix command and Jobname = job you want to select. It will work if you have a single job with this name. ITschak 2010/9/7 Shedlock, George gshedl...@aegonusa.com Absolutely not the most elegant way to do this, but: Call CallSDSF 'pre q*mstr;st' EXECio * diskr ISFOUT (finis stem Res.) free f(ISFOUT) CallSDSF: ARG Command Parse VAR Command Command1';'Command2';'Command3';'Command4';'Command5';'Rest Parse VAR Rest Command6';'Command7';'Command8';'Command9';'Command10';' Isfin_File = 'Userid().TEMP.ISFIN.FILE' Isfout_File = 'Userid().TEMP.ISFOUT.FILE' x = sysdsn(Isfin_File) If x = 'OK' Then Do delete Isfin_File End X = Sysdsn(Isfout_File) If X = 'OK' Then Do Delete Isfout_File End alloc f(ISFIN) da(Isfin_file) new space(1,1) tracks, dsorg(ps) recfm(f b) lrecl(80) unit(3390) CMD.1 = Command1 CMD.2 = Command2 CMD.3 = Command3 CMD.4 = Command4 CMD.5 = Command5 CMD.6 = Command6 CMD.7 = Command7 CMD.8 = Command8 CMD.9 = Command9 CMD.10 = Command10 CMD.0 = 10 EXECio * diskw ISFIN (finis stem Cmd.) FREE f(ISFIN) catalog alloc f(ISFOUT) da(isfout_file) new space(5,1) tracks, dsorg(ps) recfm(f b) lrecl(80) unit(3390) alloc f(ISFIN) da(Isfin_file) shr Address LINKMVS 'SDSF' Return George Shedlock Jr AEGON Information Technology AEGON USA 502-560-3541 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX The part we are having problems with is passing the parameters to SDSF. We know how to do everything else. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX Hi, It's much simpler than that: The user has the job displayed in the editor. He Submits the job. The user enters a command on the command line, moves the cursor to the job name and presses enter The command performs the following functions: 1. get the job name from the cursor position 2. starts SDSF 3. enters the prefix command with the job name 4. enters the ST command. Okay, then what you want is an ISPF CMD or MACRO that you can use on the command line that will accept a parm (cursor selected position). Yes that can be done. Since I am not at work today, I would suggest that you look at Mark Zelden's website and see what he has done with various ISPF MACROs. Then look at the SDSF manual and see how to call SDSF and passing a parm. I would think an ISPF Macro would be a process that could do this for you. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Tom Kelman complains: Yea, I tried the user ID and password I use for all other accesses to IBM and it won't accept it. When I try to reregister with my email address it says it's already in use. What gives? I don't know, but I had the same problem, so I called the phone number (one of them, anyway) listed under Contact IBM (or whatever it was labeled on the web page) and I actually spoke with a person for whom English was not a second language who was able to resolve the problem in literally less than 2 minutes. She said it had something to do with old IDs (or so she thought), and mine was, indeed, very old. -- WB -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF REXX exec to read the actual job
Are you sure this is a job and not an STC? An STC might run under the master address space and does not need Jes2 to start. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi SDSF REXX try to read the actual , running job and got JCT NOT AVAILABLE , but it can read the active from anybody else. (sorry, I'm hyperactive today) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Bob, It's not working that way for me. At the top of the page it says Welcome Tom Kelman. So it looks like I'm signed in, but when I click on the link to download the PDF it says I'm not signed in. Something's screwed up. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571 c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
Lizette Koehler pisze: Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? A jobid is the job number, unless you are thinking of something else. $DJ'jobname' or $DJ'jobname',DETAIL will get you all the info on the job in JES2. Isn't it $DJ'jobname',LONG ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available
Yea, I tried the user ID and password I use for all other accesses to IBM and it won't accept it. When I try to reregister with my email address it says it's already in use. What gives? Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571 c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it says it accepted it. What incomprehensible BULLSHIT!! -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
zMan wrote: ? mainstream modified news, not story. Stupid English. Yes, quite right. Stupid English indeed. Maybe we need parens: I'll agree that *every* (mainstream news) story... (Yeah, *that'll* go over big with most people...) -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Security, Inc. www.voltage.com (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6662 (cell) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
I do see the jobid preceding the first $HASP890 message in the hardcopy record and displayed on the console. However, none of the returned $HASP890 messages have the jobid in the message text. First off, Yes - LONG not Detail $DJ'jobname',LONG Second, the JOBID is part of the SYSLOG display \/ MR000 SDH8 2010250 13:59:42.21 JOB05191 0084 $HASP890 JOB(LK41591V) Where are you executing the Display for the JOB? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 display job id
What version of z/OS? If z/OS V1.9 or above, you could use the SDSF REXX interface to get the jobid. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). /end snippet This is true, but there are facilities available---They are still used chiefly but not only by IBM subsystems---that make implementing data sharing within a parallel sysplex easy. You do need both hardware and software in place, viz., a zSeries Coupling Facility (CF), usually a logical partition, and CF channels linking the systems/'servers' that are attached to the CF. For such an environment look at the DFSMS/VSAM support for Record Level Sharing, which has the unsurprising acronym RLS. RLS deals adequately although not luxuriously with the housekeeping issues, but to use it effectively you will need to be or become adept at writing authorized code. Once you have familiarized yourself with the CF you will, however, find many other uses for it. To add further to your stock of Americana it may also be worth noting that RYO in the literal sense is not antediluvian. Bags of Bull Durham cigarette tobacco, complete with 'papers', are still marketed in the United States and Canada to those, mostly rural, smokers who want to roll their own. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). /end snippet This is true, but there are facilities available---They are still used chiefly but not only by IBM subsystems---that make implementing data sharing within a parallel sysplex easy. You do need both hardware and software in place, viz., a zSeries Coupling Facility (CF), usually a logical partition, and CF channels linking the systems/'servers' that are attached to the CF. snip John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA Are these facilities available to non-APF authorized users? Is there a way to do something like this in pure COBOL (no user written HLASM subroutines / C language / Java / etc.)? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
In s54886h2q5b5n2gn9p2a5qtgum8rpmf...@4ax.com, on 09/05/2010 at 06:55 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. However, a reporter working offline should at least be able to consult his own morgue for background information; most don't bother, and haven't for decades. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC020I 001-1
In aadad469c0429c4fb23ce1486e5c10da3d80968...@ing.com, on 09/06/2010 at 11:29 AM, Fred van der Windt fred.van.der.wi...@mail.ing.nl said: I'm trying to read a RECFM=U partitioned dataset Directory or member? but keep getting a IEC020I 001-1 message and a S001 abend. What was in the message? Setting DCBLRECL to the blocksize from DCBBLKSI What was that block size? What am I doing wrong? Failing to post the relevant code. The DCB and DCBE are copied from a 'Model' specification With the correct length? The OPEN: What about the MF=L? MVC OPEN,=X'8000' !! Bug in OPEN macro !! I doubt it. And the READ (R2 points to a buffer, R9 to the DCB): What about the FIND? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903e59...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 09/05/2010 at 06:13 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Why is JES2 better than JES3? Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?
In 02c201cb4d3f$546191f0$fd24b5...@net, on 09/05/2010 at 04:14 PM, William H. Blair wmhbl...@comcast.net said: What have you heard or what do you know about that story? I read it, but can't remember the issue. That was back when the S/360 was new and the author didn't quite understand the reason for the coinage byte, or at least was pretending not to. I suspect that it was around September 1967. For those who are not familiar with it, Datamation used to have some excruciatingly funny articles, some of which were collected under the title Faith, Hope and Parity. I didn't think much of their news coverage, but the humor was priceless. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In 201009060837.mll29...@c2beaomr03.btconnect.com, on 09/06/2010 at 09:37 AM, Terry Sambrooks terry.sambro...@btclick.com said: Many of the more senior members of the list will know that the two Job Entry Systems existed prior to MVS but were developed independently for different purposes. FSVO two, one larger than the standard. As I understood it at the time HASP was classified as a Field Developed Product 360D-05.1.007 and 360D-05.1.014 Were Type III or IV, both being contributed programs. whereas ASP was a bona fide development. The biggest benefit of HASP that the installation I was at; was better use of printers without having to dedicated devices, as previously, What issue did you have with ASP handling of printers? or spool prints to tape for subsequent printing. When did HASP support tape? 360A-CX-15X was Type II The real issue these days I think is, Is there a need for both JES2 and JES3? What ever happened to JES 5? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
Most CF services require supervisor state and Key0-7. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 07 September 2010 20:12 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). /end snippet This is true, but there are facilities available---They are still used chiefly but not only by IBM subsystems---that make implementing data sharing within a parallel sysplex easy. You do need both hardware and software in place, viz., a zSeries Coupling Facility (CF), usually a logical partition, and CF channels linking the systems/'servers' that are attached to the CF. snip John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA Are these facilities available to non-APF authorized users? Is there a way to do something like this in pure COBOL (no user written HLASM subroutines / C language / Java / etc.)? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
Hum, then I would suggest that they are not simple as was requested in the Subject: line . Quite possible to people with the talent, writing such is simple. But not necessarily desirable to take advantage of in user written, in-house, applications code. I don't know why the OP wanted this functionality. There is likely a way to emulate it. Perhaps with something as simple as a dataset (dynalloc DISP=OLD, read, update, rewrite the record, FREE). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Most CF services require supervisor state and Key0-7. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 07 September 2010 20:12 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). /end snippet This is true, but there are facilities available---They are still used chiefly but not only by IBM subsystems---that make implementing data sharing within a parallel sysplex easy. You do need both hardware and software in place, viz., a zSeries Coupling Facility (CF), usually a logical partition, and CF channels linking the systems/'servers' that are attached to the CF. snip John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA Are these facilities available to non-APF authorized users? Is there a way to do something like this in pure COBOL (no user written HLASM subroutines / C language / Java / etc.)? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903e59...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 09/05/2010 at 06:13 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Why is JES2 better than JES3? Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. SNIP Actually, I was planning on using a torpedo. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On 7 Sep 2010 12:26:57 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. However, a reporter working offline should at least be able to consult his own morgue for background information; most don't bother, and haven't for decades. And reporters wonder why consumers put them in the same category as bloggers these days. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
I was just a lowly applications COBOL programmer at Bankers Trust when Bob Graham suddenly appeared there, fresh out of Brown with a degree in Computer Science, and morphed HASP into ASP. He is rightfully regarded as the father of ASP, if not JES3 as well. Until recently, when I started my first assigment at a JES3 client last month, I too, was a JES2 bigot. But in the short time I have been here, I have seen the power of JES3, viz, its Workload Manager. You can run almost anything anywhere and the Workload Manager decides where to run it, what is available where, ie initiators, storage, CPU. You get maximum utilization from your hardware, no idle CPU cycles, or storage. No artificially imposed physical system contraints, like not enough memory or CPU or initiators to run workloads on a certain box at a certain time. There is literally no physical system distinction between Test and Production here, ie no Test LPARs vs Production LPARs. Everything runs together physically, Security keeps things separated logically. Albeit, there is still a sandbox under z/VM. Afterall, sandboxes are sacred. They belong to us. Does all of this sound a bit familiar? It has taken IBM only some 40 odd years to catch up to Bob Graham's initial ASP vision and superior design vis-a-vis Parallel Sysplex and IRD to try to achieve the same functionality with JESPLEX. btw, this JES3 shop also is SYSPLEXed and runs IRD which simply further extends and enhances the power of JES3 with their unique features. It is truly a remarkably beautiful thing to see, ie the near perfect allocation of resources with minimal waste of hardware and system resources. I have never seen a shop get more bang for the buck out of their hardware, thanks to JES3. On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 201009060837.mll29...@c2beaomr03.btconnect.com, on 09/06/2010 at 09:37 AM, Terry Sambrooks terry.sambro...@btclick.com said: Many of the more senior members of the list will know that the two Job Entry Systems existed prior to MVS but were developed independently for different purposes. FSVO two, one larger than the standard. As I understood it at the time HASP was classified as a Field Developed Product 360D-05.1.007 and 360D-05.1.014 Were Type III or IV, both being contributed programs. whereas ASP was a bona fide development. The biggest benefit of HASP that the installation I was at; was better use of printers without having to dedicated devices, as previously, What issue did you have with ASP handling of printers? or spool prints to tape for subsequent printing. When did HASP support tape? 360A-CX-15X was Type II The real issue these days I think is, Is there a need for both JES2 and JES3? What ever happened to JES 5? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant, non-trivial problems. It is not neurosurgery, but It certainly cannot be done in COBOL, which, whatever its other merits, is not a systems-implementation language. You must write authorized code; and you need the appropriate design and testing skills, as I made clear in my original post. If you don't have them you should think about getting an ISV who does to do the job for you. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
W dniu 2010-09-07 21:36, Thompson, Steve pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903e59...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 09/05/2010 at 06:13 PM, Thompson, Stevesteve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Why is JES2 better than JES3? Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. SNIP Actually, I was planning on using a torpedo. Well... My goal is to meet business goals. I use mainframe, because: a) my application is designed for mainframe (lng gap) b) it is very good (maybe optimal) platform for that. My business is not interested in (almost) any technical issues. I don't ask them about torpedos, 24 vs 31 vs 64-bit addressing, JES2 vs JES3, etc, etc. IMHO both JESes are for the same thing: to run the applications, especially batch jobs. The better is the cheaper - udoubtly JES2 - UNLESS (!) there are other factors to analyze. Usually (vast majority!) it is history: existing apps would need to be migrated, which could be costly and cumbersome. Theorethical case: If you start from scratch, then you should choose JES2. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM sort maybe in for some competition?
http://code.google.com/p/back40computing/wiki/RadixSorting Sorting Algorithm Breaks Giga-Sort Barrier, With GPUs from the quick-like-double-time dept. posted by timothy on Sunday August 29, @22:22 (Graphics) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Synchronizing the IOCDS and the DS6800
Thanks to all who responded. Due to a hiccup obtaining the COD it took a little longer than expected to verify our solution. I submit the following for the archives in case someone else should need the information. In the IOCDS and IODF: FICON CHPIDs E0, E1, F0, and F1 connect to the DS6800. Control Units D00, D40, D80, and DC0 (CUADD 0, 2, 4, 6, respectively) are each on all four paths. Device addresses D00-D3F are on CU D00, D40-D7F on CU D40, etc. In the DS6800: CHPIDs E0 and F0 connect to controller 0, E1 and F1 to controller 1. LCUs 00, 02, 04, and 06 (match with CUADD) defined on controller 0 (minimal configuration won't support defining LCUs on controller 1) Each LCU has anywhere from 10 to 13 volumes defined of various sizes including 3390-1 (1,113 cyl), 3390-2 (2,226 cyl), 3390-3 (3,339 cyl), 3390-9 (10,017 cyl), and 3390-12 (13356 cyl). Testing has confirmed that all volumes are accessible from any CHPID. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Synchronizing the IOCDS and the DS6800 We are installing a new z10 with a minimal DS6800 in a very small data center (to replace our venerable MP2003). Using the SMC, we have configured the DS6800 with RAID 5 to give us 250GB of usable storage set up as eleven 3390-3s and the rest as 3390-9s. (We wanted to use RAID 10 but the system insisted on keeping two of the DDMs in reserve so we ended up with only 125GB which is not sufficient.) I am using the Stand Alone IOCP on the z10 HMC to build the IOCDS. I have looked at every DS6800, HMC, IOCP, and HCD manual I could find but I cannot find any description of how the ADDRESS operand on the IODEVICE statement relates to the logical volumes on the DS6800. I have the same problem relating the CUNUMBER and CUADD operands on the CTLUNIT statement to the physical and logical control units on the DS6800. The Customs Offering Driver manual (GI11-2843-04) shows 3390 devices at addresses D40-D5F. Obviously I'm missing something but I see no method of assigning those addresses on the DS6800. A pointer to the relevant section of a manual would be greatly appreciated. Suggestions on how to use RAID 10 would also be welcome. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) I sure would not want to to experience a pressurization loss in an airplane near Bolivia or Tibet. In that case the pilot is required to descend to 10,000 ft above sea level. Problem is, the runways in those areas are about 13,000 above sea levels, and planes are not good at moving through solid rock. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code names for zSeries
Foundit: z10 -- zHE, zMR BTW, someone posited that the next machine was always zNext. I'm willing to believe that, but I've never heard that until this pass. -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Security, Inc. www.voltage.com (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6662 (cell) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In 4c86a688.7060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/07/2010 at 10:54 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: Theorethical case: If you start from scratch, then you should choose JES2. Nonsense; if you start from scratch, you should analyze which one best meets your needs. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM so rt maybe i n for some competiti on?
You are a very useful gadfly. Your posts regularly signal the beginnings of long threads/conversations. This time, however, . . . Radix sorts, internal or external, are certainly useful; but they are not new. The first edition of Knuth's TACP, volume 3, Sorting and Searching, that I have on my shelves was copyrighted in 1973; and it contains full treatments of them. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z990s still running?
Just curious -- I came across a customer who is still running on a z990, with no plans to upgrade or move off of z. That surprised me: I'd've bet that the only z990s still running were in companies who are certain they're turning off the z system (no matter how long it takes) and are thus willing to spend far more $$$ on maintenance because they don't want to enter into a new lease. At the risk of asking folks to air dirty laundry, anyone still running on hardware that old? Care to explain why? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2 V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the older classes of machines are stabilized so far as adding features is concerned. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM sort maybe in for some competition?
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:39:31 +, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: You are a very useful gadfly. Your posts regularly signal the beginnings of long threads/conversations. This time, however, . . . Radix sorts, internal or external, are certainly useful; but they are not new. The first edition of Knuth's TACP, volume 3, Sorting and Searching, that I have on my shelves was copyrighted in 1973; and it contains full treatments of them. The 82 rules! http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/sorter.html -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX
I suppose you could write your own 'SUBMIT' command which with outtrap would get the IKJ message, in turn getting the jobname, pass this to a REXX exec calling SDSF and setting isfprefix for the jobname and this would in turn then perform the ST command. However once you've got the job details then what do you want to do. Calling SDSF in REXX (from z/OS 1.9 onwards) is quite particular and it would take quite a bit of coding to do what you want. For example, what do you want to look at in the job? If you want to look at it executing then you need to specify which ddname you want to look at and so on. Have a look at the redbook which gives some good ideas including a 'client/server' option which might be of use: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247419.html Currently playing with SDSF/Rexx as we want to someway of monitoring logs of started tasks, i.e. SMTP and so on which is quite easy to do under UNIX, etc. but not so easy here. Seb Hi, It's much simpler than that: The user has the job displayed in the editor. He Submits the job. The user enters a command on the command line, moves the cursor to the job name and presses enter The command performs the following functions: 1. get the job name from the cursor position 2. starts SDSF 3. enters the prefix command with the job name 4. enters the ST command. The user can then look at the job, monitor its execution, and do all the other wonderful things you can do in SDSF. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?
---snip-- For those who are not familiar with it, Datamation used to have some excruciatingly funny articles, some of which were collected under the title Faith, Hope and Parity. I didn't think much of their news coverage, but the humor was priceless. -unsnip- I particularly remember their description of the Postal System Input Buffer Device, in one of their April issues. If you can find a copy of the book A Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening Gown, it's in there. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
---snip- Why is JES2 better than JES3? -unsnip-- Each one has its merits and drawbacks. Jes2, in general, has more limited capabilities but a much smaller virtual storage requirement. One shop I recently had contact with told me that their JES3 was running a fairly small working set: ONLY 200 MB. Baser your decision on your needs, not someone else's perceptions. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/07/2010 05:42:34 PM: Just curious -- I came across a customer who is still running on a z990, with no plans to upgrade or move off of z. That surprised me: I'd've bet that the only z990s still running were in companies who are certain they're turning off the z system (no matter how long it takes) and are thus willing to spend far more $$$ on maintenance because they don't want to enter into a new lease. At the risk of asking folks to air dirty laundry, anyone still running on hardware that old? Care to explain why? We use a z800 as a support system for our many z/OS System Test and Performance Measurement machines. Why? Because even though almost everything about it is free to us, we pay real money for one thing - a license for one ISV product which is used to analyze performance data. And that product license cost depends on machine capacity. Don't spew your coffee all over your monitor while laughing at IBM hoisted on its own petard. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:37:39 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: We use a z800 as a support system for our many z/OS System Test and Performance Measurement machines. Why? Because even though almost everything about it is free to us, we pay real money for one thing - a license for one ISV product which is used to analyze performance data. And that product license cost depends on machine capacity. Don't spew your coffee all over your monitor while laughing at IBM hoisted on its own petard. And one ISV mentioned here a while back, to my incredulity, that his somewhat similar product is licensed based not on the system on which it executes, but on the system(s) for which it processes data. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
I just assisted in upgrading a z990 customer to z/OS 1.9 (yes I/they are aware that also is about to drop off support). Their DR is an 890. No exactly on the bleeding edge. They would like to be rid of it all. Shane ... On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:42 -0400, zMan wrote: At the risk of asking folks to air dirty laundry, anyone still running on hardware that old? Care to explain why? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM sort maybe in for some competition?
On 9/7/2010 5:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: The 82 rules! http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/sorter.html Back in the mid-sixties there was a fortune teller in Times Square in New York City who had clients pick some cards out of a tray, ran them through the sorter, and predicted their future from the cards than fell into one special pocket matching their Zodiac sign. That was probably the most inventive, if otherwise useless, application I've seen. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
I have a question. When did the z10 come out. I think it was 3 to 4 years ago, but I don't remember. I would think that people who leased a z990 a year or two before the z10 was available could still have them under a 5 year lease. I know there are software discounts if you are on the latest hardware, but I'd guess there are still a lot of customers running older stuff that aren't getting off any time soon. Especially people who bought their machine. Eric Bielefeld -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2 V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the older classes of machines are stabilized so far as adding features is concerned. OK, you're a vendor -- shoemaker's children. (Still a valid data point, but not a mainstream answer.) -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: We use a z800 as a support system for our many z/OS System Test and Performance Measurement machines. Why? Because even though almost everything about it is free to us, we pay real money for one thing - a license for one ISV product which is used to analyze performance data. And that product license cost depends on machine capacity. Don't spew your coffee all over your monitor while laughing at IBM hoisted on its own petard. Hah! Of course you aren't paying real $$$ for maint... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: I just assisted in upgrading a z990 customer to z/OS 1.9 (yes I/they are aware that also is about to drop off support). Their DR is an 890. No exactly on the bleeding edge. They would like to be rid of it all. So they're in the companies who are certain they're turning off the z system... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I have a question. When did the z10 come out. I think it was 3 to 4 years ago, but I don't remember. I would think that people who leased a z990 a year or two before the z10 was available could still have them under a 5 year lease. I know there are software discounts if you are on the latest hardware, but I'd guess there are still a lot of customers running older stuff that aren't getting off any time soon. Especially people who bought their machine. z9 announced September 2005. So there can't be many of those. z10 announced February 2008, btw. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
Oops, didn't mean those posts to sound dismissive -- you don't count! I was musing, figuring which logical bucket you belong in. Thanks for the posts! Hope to see more... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
