Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-07 Thread Klein, Kenneth
ISTM, this restriction is still in place. I ran isrddn the other day and
it flagged a dataset in the concatenation that had a smaller blocksize
than those following it. We reblocked that data set and isrddn did not
complain. 


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It is a misdesign that the OS allows this ever to happen.  The 
principal use of this facility is to correct errors that were 
introduced by its earlier inadvertent use.  Simply, any OPEN for WRITE 
with overriding attributes where the label contains different nonzero 
attributes should ABEND for inconsistent attributes.

If the programmer feels compelled to change attributes the recourse 
should be:

o ZAP the VTOC, or
I use the same mis-design to reset it back to the original blocksize. If
the change was recent (last couple of days), I make an attempt to find
the culprit and have them fix their jcl. Zapping the vtoc is the last
(*very* reluctant) resort and only to be done by a very select few. 

o COPY, reblock, and rename.
This is the proper way to make a planned, permanent change to the
dataset attributes.

Regards,
John

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Re: ibm Tivoli ETR support

2009-08-06 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Barbara, was meinen Sie denn eigentlich? How do you really feel?

I actually did get a response, a correct solution in fact, to one
problem I had this week. The other one, sev 3, has been hanging out
there for a few weeks now.  


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I would not call it delayed support, but extremely incompetent or more
bluntly incapable support.

In our case it is Netview, and the person has no clue whatsoever what a
sliptrap does and 'works with MVS' (after getting slapped by me for
requesting the docs again and again that s/he already had and cannot
read and/or understand). Standard excuse: If I don't see what I want to
see then the customer did not send me the right docs. And if customer
proves they did it right, then of course slip trap/dump processing must
be wrong, hence 'working with MVS'.

Whatever happened to the competent NetView lady who has done this
support for years? From the name in the ETR (at least s/he gave her
name!) I cannot even see what gender s/he has! So did they get laid off
and their jobs transfered to Asia?

I feel better now.

Regards, Barbara Nitz

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Re: USS misuse

2009-08-06 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Yes, and most of them so off topic its more like twitter.  


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Chris Mason wrote:
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Re: ibm Tivoli ETR support

2009-08-06 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I'm dealing with the advanced [ audit | reporting | catalog management ]
and its working on the mainframe side. The TEMS and TEPS and clients and
agents are all befuddled. I've installed a new TEPS on a virtual blade
but all I get out of it is initialization is not complete.  


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Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message
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 Thanks Barbara, I feel better now too, learning we are not the only 
 company complaining, as IBM tries to make us think. Want another 
 challenge? Try to get the Omegamons working.
 
 Different department :-) Oh, and did I mention that I have worked all
of 5 
 months for Candle?
 
 And then, the omegamons are Tivoli, too! 
 
 In my case, IBM already *knows* that I know others are complaining,
too. So 
 they don't waste their breath trying to hush me. 
 
 Barbara
 

As far as I used them, the classic Omegamon parts are OK, like they were
in the Candle era I suppose. It is the new Agent, Tems on z/OS and the
ITM stuff on *NIX that is not yet mature.

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Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.

2009-08-06 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Yes, se on the da screen is great. And edit tools like 'only' with
commands x string all, find 'string   ' all, hide x, del all x, and sort
make analyzing the log possible, even easy, maybe. 


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 under sdsf.
 
 In SDSF, go to DA screen and do an SE command on the master address 
 space from the system you want to look at the syslog. That will get 
 you an edit session showing all syslog content since the last syslog 
 switch. All ISPF edit commands are available then. No need to first 
 XDC out the log to a dataset.
 
 Regards, Barbara

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Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.

2009-08-05 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 That's good to know. But it's not that I want to prevent the messages
from going to syslog, it's that I don't want to have wade thru pages and
pages of them when I browse the syslog on SDSF.


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Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog
under sdsf.

If you look up the IEE677I message from a D MPF it states

SUPPRESS column

YES indicates that the message is to be suppressed if it is

eligible. NO indicates that the message is not to be suppressed.   

 AUTO column
 YES indicates that the message is to be automated. NO indicates
 that the message is not to be automated.   


So SUP will suppres the message, AUTO makes it eligible for some type of
automation.

Note - not all messages are able to be suppressed.  I typically have my
console setup to receive certain route codes but everything goes into
SYSLOG/OPERLOG.  That way if I have to research something later, it will
be there.

Do you have a product like OPS/MVS or Tivoli Netview?  They have
functions to prevent certain types of messages from going into syslog. 

Lizette




I thought having this message specified in the mpflist would suppress 
the message from showing up on sdsf's log, but it still shows up. This 
is first shop I have worked in where this message fills the syslog. 
It's annoying. It's in our mpflist and it does show up in the 'd mpf'
display. Could it be the use of sup rather than the use of auto? 

mpflst:

IFO*,AUTO(YES) ALL ASSEMBLER F MESSAGES
IFY*,AUTO(YES) ALL VS FORTRAN MESSAGES 
IGD008I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD04004I*,AUTO(YES)   
IGD077I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD10*,AUTO(YES)   
IGD17223I,SUP(YES) 
IGW002I*,AUTO(YES) 

d mpf:

IEC143I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEE458I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEF251I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IGD17223I  -S3   YES  YESNO  
TSS9000I   -S3   YES  YESYES 
(MSO13022* -S3   YES  YESYES  


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How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.

2009-08-05 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I thought having this message specified in the mpflist would suppress
the message from showing up on sdsf's log, but it still shows up. This
is first shop I have worked in where this message fills the syslog. It's
annoying. It's in our mpflist and it does show up in the 'd mpf'
display. Could it be the use of sup rather than the use of auto? 

mpflst:

IFO*,AUTO(YES) ALL ASSEMBLER F MESSAGES
IFY*,AUTO(YES) ALL VS FORTRAN MESSAGES 
IGD008I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD04004I*,AUTO(YES)   
IGD077I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD10*,AUTO(YES)   
IGD17223I,SUP(YES) 
IGW002I*,AUTO(YES) 

d mpf:

IEC143I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEE458I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEF251I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IGD17223I  -S3   YES  YESNO  
TSS9000I   -S3   YES  YESYES 
(MSO13022* -S3   YES  YESYES  

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Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.

2009-08-05 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Now I see nothing. In the log panel, when I could see something, the
filter pull-down had the filter option marked with a *. Just guessing I
entered operlog and found filter in the filter pulldown, but I think
that was for Output. But now all the log is gone. 

  Display  Filter  View  Print  Options  Help


-
SYSTS1 SLOG  0.  0 OFF  MVSS 08/05/2009 0W   0  NO OFF  SYSLOG
FOUND 
COMMAND INPUT ===SCROLL
=== CSR


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Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog
under sdsf.

This doesn't help on the SYSLOG panel, unfortunately, but on the OPERLOG
panel, you can use SDSF's filter functionality. 

From the LOG panel, select FILTER.  Choose option 1, FILTER.  Then, in
the columns, set COLUMN equal to MSGID, OPER to NE, and VALUE to
igd17223. If you want to emulate syslog functionality on the operlog
panel, you can also use the filter functionality to limit the messages
to a single system.

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To:
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Date:
08/05/2009 11:55 AM
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Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.
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 That's good to know. But it's not that I want to prevent the messages
from going to syslog, it's that I don't want to have wade thru pages and
pages of them when I browse the syslog on SDSF.


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
502-495-5000 x7011

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog
under sdsf.

If you look up the IEE677I message from a D MPF it states

SUPPRESS column

YES indicates that the message is to be suppressed if it is

eligible. NO indicates that the message is not to be suppressed. 
 
 AUTO column 
 YES indicates that the message is to be automated. NO indicates 
 that the message is not to be automated. 
 

So SUP will suppres the message, AUTO makes it eligible for some type of
automation.

Note - not all messages are able to be suppressed.  I typically have my
console setup to receive certain route codes but everything goes into
SYSLOG/OPERLOG.  That way if I have to research something later, it will
be there.

Do you have a product like OPS/MVS or Tivoli Netview?  They have
functions to prevent certain types of messages from going into syslog. 

Lizette




I thought having this message specified in the mpflist would suppress 
the message from showing up on sdsf's log, but it still shows up. This 
is first shop I have worked in where this message fills the syslog. 
It's annoying. It's in our mpflist and it does show up in the 'd mpf'
display. Could it be the use of sup rather than the use of auto? 

mpflst:

IFO*,AUTO(YES) ALL ASSEMBLER F MESSAGES
IFY*,AUTO(YES) ALL VS FORTRAN MESSAGES 
IGD008I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD04004I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD077I*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD10*,AUTO(YES) 
IGD17223I,SUP(YES) 
IGW002I*,AUTO(YES) 

d mpf:

IEC143I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEE458I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEF251I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IGD17223I  -S3   YES  YESNO 
TSS9000I   -S3   YES  YESYES 
(MSO13022* -S3   YES  YESYES 


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Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.

2009-08-05 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Thanks, it was the sysid option. I got it now. 

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Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog
under sdsf.

Would you isse in SDSF
SET DISPLAY ON

That will show if you have any other filters set.

Lizette




 
Now I see nothing. In the log panel, when I could see something, the 
filter pull-down had the filter option marked with a *. Just guessing I

entered operlog and found filter in the filter pulldown, but I think 
that was for Output. But now all the log is gone.

  Display  Filter  View  Print  Options  Help

---
-
-
SYSTS1 SLOG  0.  0 OFF  MVSS 08/05/2009 0W   0  NO OFF  SYSLOG
FOUND 
COMMAND INPUT ===SCROLL
=== CSR


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 
502-495-5000 x7011

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Mckenzie
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog 
under sdsf.

This doesn't help on the SYSLOG panel, unfortunately, but on the 
OPERLOG panel, you can use SDSF's filter functionality.

From the LOG panel, select FILTER.  Choose option 1, FILTER.  Then, in 
the columns, set COLUMN equal to MSGID, OPER to NE, and VALUE to 
igd17223. If you want to emulate syslog functionality on the operlog 
panel, you can also use the filter functionality to limit the messages 
to a single system.

---
Kevin McKenzie
External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept 
FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38



From:
Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
To:
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
08/05/2009 11:55 AM
Subject:
Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog under sdsf.
Sent by:
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 That's good to know. But it's not that I want to prevent the messages 
from going to syslog, it's that I don't want to have wade thru pages 
and pages of them when I browse the syslog on SDSF.


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 
502-495-5000 x7011

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On 
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to eliminate the igd17223i message from the syslog 
under sdsf.

If you look up the IEE677I message from a D MPF it states

SUPPRESS column

YES indicates that the message is to be suppressed if it is

eligible. NO indicates that the message is not to be suppressed. 
 
 AUTO column 
 YES indicates that the message is to be automated. NO indicates 
 that the message is not to be automated. 
 

So SUP will suppres the message, AUTO makes it eligible for some type 
of automation.

Note - not all messages are able to be suppressed.  I typically have my

console setup to receive certain route codes but everything goes into 
SYSLOG/OPERLOG.  That way if I have to research something later, it 
will be there.

Do you have a product like OPS/MVS or Tivoli Netview?  They have 
functions to prevent certain types of messages from going into syslog.

Lizette




I thought having this message specified in the mpflist would suppress 
the message from showing up on sdsf's log, but it still shows up. This

is first shop I have worked in where this message fills the syslog.
It's annoying. It's in our mpflist and it does show up in the 'd mpf'
display. Could it be the use of sup rather than the use of auto? 

mpflst:

IFO*,AUTO(YES) ALL ASSEMBLER F MESSAGES
IFY*,AUTO(YES) ALL VS FORTRAN MESSAGES
IGD008I*,AUTO(YES)
IGD04004I*,AUTO(YES)
IGD077I*,AUTO(YES)
IGD10*,AUTO(YES)
IGD17223I,SUP(YES)
IGW002I*,AUTO(YES)

d mpf:

IEC143I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEE458I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IEF251I-S3   YES  YESYES 
IGD17223I  -S3   YES  YESNO 
TSS9000I   -S3   YES  YESYES 
(MSO13022* -S3   YES  YESYES 



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ibm Tivoli ETR support

2009-08-04 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Anybody else getting poor (delayed) support? Maybe they laid off a few
too many technicians. 

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer

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EDGUX100 - rmm exit

2009-07-31 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Do I need this headache? I can't find the source here but it's linked in
at the top of the lnklst concatenation. Can't find any usermods that
apply it either. Not sure if it is even getting invoked but I think it
is.

Any body use this? Is it worth it? What can it do for you? 


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Re: Of link lists and application programs

2009-07-30 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I'm looking for a way to scan the entire lnklst and find a particular
load module. 
 


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Re: Of link lists and application programs

2009-07-30 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Thanks, Mark. I didn't know about ddlist but I found your web site and
have already run your exec and found the renegade dataset. 


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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:31:10 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
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I'm looking for a way to scan the entire lnklst and find a particular 
load module.


Lots of ways. A couple:
ISRDDN (DDLIST command) that comes with your system. 
Freeware, for example FINDMOD on my web site.

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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Howard, I can't believe we are seeing the entire log here of what is
going on. Where are the commands and the results of the commands that
Dennis suggested you issue? Run those commands, one at a time or script
them in your batch job and capture the results. Post the entire log here
so we can see what's going on. If what we are seeing is all you are
getting back from the server then there are some serious problems here. 


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Subject: Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

On 28 Jul 2009 11:34:10 -0700, dennis.ro...@lmco.com (Dennis Roach)
wrote:

Not actually. What we are wanting to see is the directory up level. Try

cd /ps
cd /ps/cs90ftp
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract
dir



What I would suspect is that somewhere along the way something does not

exist or you do not have the required access. This will list the last 
valid directory in the path.

Except I have that access using Ultra-Edit, and I cut and pasted the
directory from ultra-edit's FTP browser.   But here it goes.

12:45:09 Enter PASSWORD
..:  ### 
12:45:09 230 Login successful. 12:45:09 FTP2: cd
/ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract 12:45:09 250 Directory
successfully changed. 12:45:10 FTP2: dir 12:45:10 150 Here comes the
directory listing. 12:45:10 -Dataset opened; data connection starting.
12:45:10 Data transfer Type is ASCII.  Structure is File.  Mode is
Stream.
12:45:10 Dataset name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T4510028.P9758.S9758 Dataset
attributes:   
12:45:10 Dsorg=PS  Recfm=VB  Lrecl=137  Blksize=9076 Volser=DBS936
Unit=3390
12:45:10 Primary allocation is 5 tracks. Secondary allocation is
15 tracks.   
12:45:10 150 Network data which exceeds LRECL will be wrapped to the
next record. 
12:45:10 226 Directory send OK. 12:45:10 -Transfer complete. 12:45:11
3673 bytes received in 0.03 seconds (122433 bytes/s) 12:45:11 Dataset
name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T4510028.P9758.S9758 User=D44201
12:45:11 Data bytes written: 3577. 12:45:11 226 Disk tracks
written: 1. 12:45:12 drwxr-xr-x2 60029104  4096 May 20
22:41 External System ID for SIT   
12:45:12 drwxr-xr-x2 60029104  4096 Jul 28 15:27 Test
Folder  
12:45:12 -rw-r--r--1 6002910446 Jul 28 18:12
address_incr.dat


I tried it again, with a more limited dir - which didn't show Test
Folder for some reason (it is visible above):
12:45:42 FTP2: dir t* 12:45:43 150 Here comes the directory listing.
12:45:43 -Dataset opened; data connection starting. 12:45:43 Data
transfer Type is ASCII.  Structure is File.  Mode is Stream.
12:45:43 Dataset name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T4542937.P2546.S2546 Dataset
attributes:  
12:45:43 Dsorg=PS  Recfm=VB  Lrecl=137  Blksize=9076 Volser=DBS618
Unit=3390   
12:45:43 Primary allocation is 5 tracks. Secondary allocation is
15 tracks.  
12:45:43 150 Network data which exceeds LRECL will be wrapped to the
next record.
12:45:43 226 Directory send OK. 12:45:43 -Transfer complete.   152
bytes received in 0.03 seconds (5066 bytes/s) 
12:45:44 Dataset name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T4542937.P2546.S2546
User=D44201  
12:45:44 Data bytes written: 148. 12:45:44 226 Disk tracks
written: 1. 12:45:44 -rw-r--r--1 60029104   5976435 Jul 23
15:07 test_scores-7-23.dat
12:45:44 -rw-r--r--1 60029104  305884107 Jul 25 03:51
test_scores.dat
12:45:45 FTP2: cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Test Folder
12:45:45 550 Failed to change directory. 12:45:45 FTP2: END 12:45:45
221 Goodbye. 12:45:45 221 Session terminated 12:45:45 T01F2030I FTP2
returns CC=8 


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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
again I suggest using the -v and or the -d flags to acquire more
debugging information.  


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Do you have anyone that can do an IP trace on the z box? 
In particular, the failing transfer vs. the start of the good one.

You said that they use spaces in the names for other systems.
Can you determine what the receiving systems are?
This could be one of those things where both ends do something weird and
the end result is failure. 

Dennis Roach
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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
We've narrowed the issue down to the syntax of the cd command.

cd Test Folder 08:28:03 550 Failed to change directory.

If we could run ftp with the -v and -d flags we probably would get an
explanation.
Otherwise we can research CA's requirements for this command. apparently
CA wants single quotes or perhaps a pair of single quotes: ''Test
Folder'' or maybe even 'Test Folder'. Have you tried using the escape
character, the back slash: \ in front of the quote? 


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On 29 Jul 2009 07:07:18 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:

 Try
 
cd /ps
cd /ps/cs90ftp
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract

dir

cd Test Folder
dir

SOC9 again:
 

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Re: USS misuse (was Re: Mainframe hacking)

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I understand, Pat. You probably got a lot of confused callers when you
came in Monday morning. 


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Subject: Re: USS misuse (was Re: Mainframe hacking)

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:03:34 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe
patrick.oke...@wamu.net wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:26:33 -0400, Thompson, Steve 
steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote:

...
The picture and last laugh came from one who had been rebuffed for 
pointing out the confusion caused by using USS instead of OE or OMVS, 
or some such.
...

I admit I could not tell who got the last laugh and who or what was 
being laughed at, but suspected I might be in the laughed at 
catagory.  I guess Chris felt that a bit more strongly than I did.
I think we were both wrong.

And to show how deeply entrenched I am in the old (real :-) ) def of 
USS, when I saw the subject I thought, Oh oh.  I misused USS once.  I 
replaced the default IBMTEST with something that displayed a whole buch

of diagnostic stuff.

And if nobody but Chris understands what I just said, well, that's 
fine.

Pat O'Keefe



I have no idea what you are talking about.

Regards,

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Re: Operator Validation before Executing Command

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 As soon as you have this implemented and the operators get used it,
they will just reply yes. Then you could add another layer of caution:
Do you really, REALLY, want to execute this command. And when they get
used to that...

Your solution should really be along the lines of limiting who gets to
issue those commands. If the people aren't careful enough to avoid
snafu's, then maybe they should be doing something else. One head on
pike and the whole room will be more alert. 

Steve, you down in Jacksonville?

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We recently experienced an outage due to an operator command being
executed on the wrong LPAR because the operator neglected to include the
RO portion of the command.  The command being executed was F
BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN=FORKINIT.  Now Management would like all destructive
commands to have a WTOR which the operator would be asked Do you really
want to execute this command and provide the opportunity to reply NO
to abort the command.  IBM recommends using the MVS Commands
Installation Exit and the .CMD in MPFLST.  Has anyone tried using that
exit in this fashion?  Would you care to share your pain or pleasure?
Has anyone found a better solution to this problem?  Thanks for sharing
your experience.

 

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Re: Operator Validation before Executing Command

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 So true. I remember after a few years on the mainframe I had to start
using a PC and the first time I got a Are you sure? I laughed out
loud. That confirmed my impression that pc's were for idiots. 


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It would drive anyone crazy to be prompted for every single
'destructive'
command, but we do put a couple of prompts along with our automation
'shut the whole thing down' command. We took a cue from V XCF OFF and
make the operator type in the target sysid. That is not an iron clad
solution. No solution will ever be iron clad. But inserting even a small
loop can help enormously vs. the type-it-and-watch-helplessly
alternative.

.
.
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Management would like all destructive
commands to have a WTOR which the operator would be asked Do you really
want to execute this command and provide the opportunity to reply NO
to abort the command.

I worked for a Beta shop of MDF (Amdahl's partioning) in the early
1980's.
We had issues regarding there was no prompt to ask the operator, when
restarting a domain, are you sure.
So, we asked Amdahl to put one in.
They ended up taking it back out.

The reason:

Once an operator had been committed to taking the domain down they were
conditioned to automatically reply YES to the prompt.

Changing the sequence only changes the responses, but the conditioning
is still there.

1. Amdahl removed the prompt.
2. Once somebody has made up their mind, you can't do anything about it.

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Re: Training

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Steven, IMHO, I don't think Steve C is that abusive. I've only ever
gotten one invitation to his services. And he has made some useful
contributions.


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Mr. Comstock,
My use of IBM-MAIN is to present peer systems programmers with
challenges and solutions in our field.  Your exploitation of this forum
is inappropriate.  If we were to allow Vendors to exploit this forum for
marketing purposes I believe many of us would stop using the forum.
Regards,
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Steve,

I saw your recent note on ibm-main and I wanted to contact you off-list

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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I assume you meant single and double quotes and I would think that
should work. Maybe you could try wildcarding; /Files* or even
/Files?for?Production
and then sometimes you need to use an escape sequence, probably the back
slash: \ , before the space.  


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Subject: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

I'm trying to do a FTP with the following:

cd   /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Files for Production  

put 'UMSDEV.QA06.CCITFULL.D090714'  citizen_D090714.dat

 

I try putting single and double spaces around the destination directory,
but the IKJEFT01 gives me a SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C9  REASON
CODE=0009 when it tries, but fails to change the directory.

 

How do I handle the Unix spaces in the directory name?

 


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Re: Operator Validation before Executing Command

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Indeed. Paying for mistakes like that will make you much smarter. I've
lost 2 jobs and in each case the mistake was a simple keystroke. 


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On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 08:17 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote:
 One head on pike and the whole room will be more alert.

Agreed.  This isn't a technical problem; it's a management problem.

I had a young operator once who replied 'U' to a message - apparently
because that's what you *do* when a WTOR comes up.  It made a mess and I
chewed her out for it, reducing her to tears.  But I learned something
from that as well, and improved training, and nobody on my staff made
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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Can you telnet to that address and see what kind of welcome page you
see? 

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On 28 Jul 2009 08:16:12 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:

How do I handle the Unix spaces in the directory name?

This is entirely client-dependent.  What's your client?

I don't know.

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Re: FTP to Unix directory with spaces

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Try putting a -v and/or -d on the ftp command. That should give  you
some more information. 


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On 28 Jul 2009 09:31:13 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:


 It's a batch job run from JCL, using production procs.

OK, so your client is the z/OS ftp client. I assume (ouch!) that you're
running PGM=FTP. OOPS - looked at your original message and you're
running ftp in TSO batch. Why? Example JCL without TSO in batch would
be:

//STEP1EXEC  PGM=FTP,
// REGION=0M,
// PARM='(EXIT'
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//OUTPUT   DD  SYSOUT=*
//INPUTDD  *
ipaddress-of-remote
userid-to-use
password-to-use
cd /ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Files for Production
put 'UMSDEV.QA06.CCITFULL.D090714'  citizen_D090714.dat
/*

Sorry, I submit a batch job from TSO, containing:
//QA08F1 EXEC UEAA,(TRANSMIT TRANSACTIONS TO PS) //
PASSWRD='UMSDEV.CONVSIS.LIB(OSIRIS)', //* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE
CONTAINING PASSWORDS ***  
// FTPPARM='UMS.D44201.JCL(TESTD)' 
With:
EDIT   UMS.D44201.JCL(TESTD) - 01.16 Columns
Command === Scro
** * Top of Data
*
==MSG -CAUTION- Profile changed to CAPS OFF (from CAPS ON) because data

==MSG   contains lower case characters. 01 cd
/ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Test Folder 02 dir 
I wonder if TSO is stripping off the quote marks?!?

 
 How about trying something like:
 
 cd /ps/cs90ftp/convesion_files/CC/extract
 dir
 
 That's a better way to test, without creating the file in the wrong
 place.   Good idea.
 
 In desperation, do you really needs the damn blanks?
 
 It's a political thing.   I can argue with users to who are already
 using directories with blanks, or find a way to accommodate them. 
 They have several directories so defined.
 
 I suppose we could have Unix scripts moving the files after I get 
 them to a drop off directory, if we have a trigger paid for on the 
 destination machine.

Can you post the entire output of your batch ftp job? It might help us
discover what the server software is. And that might help with
debugging. Munge as little of the output as possible (just things like
IP address, userids and passwords, if possible).


Is this enough?
* TOP OF DATA **
READY   
FTP2 / FIOS 
ENTRY (A) D44201.FTP.TMP.T0610908.P0392.S0392 DELETED   
READY   
END 
 BOTTOM OF DATA 

10:06:10 -Logged in -  User=D44201  Working directory D44201.
10:06:10 ProductID: Unicenter TCPaccess Communications Server Rel
6.0.0
10:06:10 (C) Copyright 1987-2003 Computer Associates International,
Inc.   
10:06:10 Component: Client FTP, A6007420 UFTP2 10:06:10 Enter command or
'?' 10:06:10 FTP2: OPEN cs-dev-app-1.cusys.edu 10:06:10 220 Welcome to
the new SIS FTP Service. All activities can and will be logged.
10:06:10 Enter name (CS-DEV-APP-1.CUSYS.EDU:d44201): cs90ftp 10:06:10
Enter PASSWORD ..:
###
10:06:10 230 Login successful. 10:06:10 FTP2: cd
/ps/cs90ftp/conversion_files/CC/extract/Test Folder   
10:06:10 550 Failed to change directory. 10:06:10 FTP2: dir 10:06:11 150
Here comes the directory listing. 10:06:11 -Dataset opened; data
connection starting. 10:06:11 Data transfer Type is ASCII.
Structure is File.  Mode is Stream. 
10:06:11 Dataset name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T0610908.P0392.S0392 Dataset
attributes:
10:06:11 Dsorg=PS  Recfm=VB  Lrecl=137  Blksize=9076 Volser=DBS935
Unit=3390 
10:06:11 Primary allocation is 5 tracks. Secondary allocation is
15 tracks.
10:06:11 150 Network data which exceeds LRECL will be wrapped to the
next record.  
10:06:11 226 Directory send OK. 10:06:13 -Transfer complete.   1734
bytes received in 0.03 seconds (57800 bytes/s) 
10:06:13 Dataset name: D44201.FTP.TMP.T0610908.P0392.S0392
User=D44201 
10:06:13 Data bytes written: 1686. 10:06:13 226 Disk tracks
written: 1. 10:06:13 -rw-r--r--1 60029104  349853796 Apr
06 19:26 CLASStst4 
10:06:13 -rw-r--r--1 60029104243952 Jun 11 14:25
address_incr.dat   
10:06:13 -rw-r--r--1 60029104 0 Jul 08 12:32
address_mdm.dat
10:06:13 -rw-r--r--1 60029104 77214 Jun 11 14:25
citizen_incr.dat   
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Re: Steve Comstock (Was: Training)

2009-07-28 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Yeah!, You couldn't buy this kind of advertising!!

Ken Klein
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Not only an esteemed member but now one with a dedicated thread in honor
of his name :-)

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Subject: Steve Comstock (Was: Training)

Bobbie Jo wrote:
 Steve Comstock is a very good resource for this list.

 Yes he is, I have never had an issue with his postings.

 Steve does not in any way, shape or form spam the list, he simply 
 provides information that people may find valuable..

Steve is an esteemed member of the mainframe community. And, as
knowledgeable and community-minded individuals often do, he has donated
some time to teach some classes at SHARE in Denver:

Session 2238: Thu, Aug 27 @ 9:30 AM - z/OS Control Blocks for Beginners
Session 1214: Thu, Aug 27 @ 3:00 PM - Doing Packed Decimal Arithmetic in

Assembler

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Re: z9BC power sequence instructions?

2009-07-24 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Well yes, you talk to the service processor thru the HMC. Look for the
pretty icons for power off and so on. 


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Subject: z9BC power sequence instructions?

I'll be looking, but I thought that I'd ask here as well to perhaps save
some time. Is there any documentation around on how to properly power
down and power up an z9BC system? I think that this must be done via the
Service Element in the box. Any screen shots in such documentation
would be wonderful.

Thanks.

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Re: Telnet Unix System Services

2009-07-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 And when you find that Mark, please post it. I have been looking for
that for weeks. 


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 I am not 100% sure, but I think those are differences in /bin/sh on 
 z/OS UNIX, which is based on the Korn Shell, and the use of BASH as 
 the default shell on Linux.

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That was quite helpful.  I didn't realize it was a different shell.  A
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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Yes, you are both correct. The serious warning messages, some in red,
just scared the heck outta me. Now I have iebcopied the full datasets to
larger ones and done the renames manually with ispf being sure to only
affect the inactive resvol that is the target for my maint. Now the
target pack is full. In other shops we always had a pair of resvols for
each environment, sandbox, development(test) and prod. Sometimes even a
pair for QA. Here they had a single resvol for each of 3 environments
(only 2 a couple months ago) but I am afraid that will not be big enough
and we will have to go to 2. The dddefs are using (**) for the
volser so it will reference the ipl device after ipl but what if we have
2 resvols? I vaguely remember using sysrs1 and sysrs2, but was that in
the dddef or in the master catalog? 


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called RSU and PUT ???

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Klein, Kenneth
 
  Allan, the problem is that the datasets are on the target res vol
with
 the same name as the dataset on the currently running res vol and they

 are catalogged in the master cat. Eg. sys1.serblink, isf..sisfload. I 
 can iebcopy them to new bigger datasets with new names on the target
res
 vol but I can't rename them or the current live master cat will be 
 fubarred.

But the catalog entry 'currently' points to the dataset on the 'live'
volume.  The define / rename activity should be performed with the
'inactive' volume explicitly specified so only the VTOC is updated.

   -jc-

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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Yes, that's how I remember it. And to correct myself we do have the
DDDef's hard coded with a specific volser. We clone the target.csi and
zonedit to create a new sandbox for maint. 


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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of
 2 resvols? I vaguely remember using sysrs1 and sysrs2, but was that
in
 the dddef or in the master catalog?

The symbolic references are in the catalog.  We currently have 4 volumes
in our RESVOL sets for each image, using SYSR1 (aka '**'),
SYSR2, SYSR3 and SYSR4.  The SYSR2 - SYSR4 symbols are defined in
IEASYMxx and resolved at IPL time; the LOADxx member in SYS1.IPLPARM
specifies which IEASYMxx member to use.Where needed, the LNKLST and
APF list entries specify the symbolic volser.  Our DDDEFs explicitly
name the volsers:  ALTn19, where 0 = n = 3.

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Re: Downloading large datasets to PC is that Mainframe any Performance issue ?????

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 ftp put from the mainframe would be faster than ftp get from the pc. 


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Performance issue ?

I am downloading it through FTP... normally i download from the PCOM
itself...

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sachin,

 Download speed depends on the protocol and software U u. U SNA? are U 
 using FTP?

 Itschak

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Sachin T sachin.sach...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I am downloading a RACF Database unload dataset from Mainframe to my

  pc desktop, it's taking more than 2 hours 30 minutes... is that will

  affect the system performance or there would be any problem with 
  this download.
 
  Could any one please comment on this.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Sachin
 
  
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What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Recommended service upgrade and ?
Should I apply them both?

SET BOUNDARY ( RESZS3  ) . 
 APPLY 
   SOURCEID(   
 PUT0902   
 PUT0903   
 RSU0903   
 ) 
   BYPASS( 
 HOLDSYSTEM(AO,DEP,DOC,ACTION,IPL,DB2BIND, 
DDDEF,DOWNLD,DYNACT,EC,ENH,EXIT,   
MULTSYS,MSGSKEL,DELETE,RESTART))   
   GROUPEXTEND 
   EXCLUDE(UA90457)
   CHECK   
   .   

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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I ran with the smp control cards I listed earlier. I got a lot of D37's
(11) but many recovered after the compress. Now 5 datasets are still
100% full so I can't tell if the module got loaded or not but probably
not. How can I expand these bad boys? I can iebcopy to a new dataset and
rename but that scares me. I get a message that tells me the dataset is
in use somewhere else, and one is, with the same name on a different
volume. Would a rename at that point mess up the master catalog that is
in use on the other currently running resvol? Probably.   


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called RSU and PUT ???

There are those that believe that someone had a problem which IBM
fixed. Do I want the same problem? 
If you don't the answer is to apply everything.  I am in this group.  If
I apply 500 ptfs by just including RSU and HIPERS and 600 by applying
everything what's the difference?
The amount and scope of testing on
My part and the part of any application testers is the same.  Why not?

Alan Schwartz
Infrastructure Management Sr. Analyst

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RSU and PUT ???

Recommended service upgrade and ?
Should I apply them both?

SET BOUNDARY ( RESZS3  ) . 
 APPLY 
   SOURCEID(   
 PUT0902   
 PUT0903   
 RSU0903   
 ) 
   BYPASS( 
 HOLDSYSTEM(AO,DEP,DOC,ACTION,IPL,DB2BIND, 
DDDEF,DOWNLD,DYNACT,EC,ENH,EXIT,   
MULTSYS,MSGSKEL,DELETE,RESTART))   
   GROUPEXTEND 
   EXCLUDE(UA90457)
   CHECK   
   .   

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Re: Any gotchas going from 1.4 to 1.9?

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 imbed and replicate were dropped between 1.9 and 1.10 IIRC.


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 On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:27:18 +0800, Fermat Ma fermatma2...@gmail.com

 wrote:
 
 No imbed, replicate for VSAM.
 ...and a lot more..
 
 
 I thought this restriction was not yet enforced, even at z/OS 1.10.

You can still access such VSAM datasets, but you can no longer create
them (nor KEYRANGE datasets). That is still the way it works. I don't
remember when that rule came in.

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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 John, the problem is that the same name exists on the system I am
running on. I think I might try iehmove. 


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called RSU and PUT ???

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Klein, Kenneth
 
 
  I ran with the smp control cards I listed earlier. I got a lot of
D37's
 (11) but many recovered after the compress. Now 5 datasets are still 
 100% full so I can't tell if the module got loaded or not but probably

 not. How can I expand these bad boys? I can iebcopy to a new dataset
and
 rename but that scares me. I get a message that tells me the dataset
is
 in use somewhere else, and one is, with the same name on a different 
 volume. Would a rename at that point mess up the master catalog that
is
 in use on the other currently running resvol? Probably.

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/2.6.
3.4

-jc-

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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Allan, the problem is that the datasets are on the target res vol with
the same name as the dataset on the currently running res vol and they
are catalogged in the master cat. Eg. sys1.serblink, isf..sisfload. I
can iebcopy them to new bigger datasets with new names on the target res
vol but I can't rename them or the current live master cat will be
fubarred. 


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called RSU and PUT ???

1) delete/define/copy the failed dataset to a larger size with the
original name. The failing datasets will be identified in SMPLOG.

2) Re-run the apply, unchanged.

OR 

1) Create/copy to NEW
2) UPDATE SMP DDDEFs to point to NEW
3) Re-run the apply unchanged
4) UNDO steps 1 and 2. I.e. rename .new to orig, recat as needed,
Update dddefs to original.

snip
 I ran with the smp control cards I listed earlier. I got a lot of D37's
(11) but many recovered after the compress. Now 5 datasets are still
100% full so I can't tell if the module got loaded or not but probably
not.
/snip


EXACTLY!
snip
I can iebcopy to a new dataset .
/snip



Easy enough to fix w/IDCAMS
snip
Would a rename at that point mess up the master catalog that is in use
on the other currently running resvol?
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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Thanks to all who helped me thru my confusion. I have them all allocated
now with PLENTY of space. The ones I checked were cataloged on
volser(**) so you guys were right about the renames. The message was
pretty scary. I've never had authority to do that before. 

Now, could the out-of-space issue have also cause 6 of these: 

BPXP018I THREAD 0FA05751, IN PROCESS 83886352, ENDED  986 
WITHOUT BEING UNDUBBED WITH COMPLETION CODE 84D37000, AND REASON CODE 
0004. 

 


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called RSU and PUT ???

1) Create the new dataset, copy and load.
2) Uncat the new dataset
3) rename the original dataset on the ALTERNATE RESVOL with volser
reference
   a) expect dsn in use conflict message. Reply to proceed.
   b) if using ISPF you will see: Enter new name below:  (The data set
will not be cataloged.)
4) rename the new dataset on the ALTERNATE RESVOL with volser reference
   a) b) if using ISPF you will see: Enter new name below:  (The data
set will not be cataloged.)
5) Recat the original name if needed.

The key to this process is working with the datasets by VOLSER, not
CATREF.

Most SYSRES datasets are not referenced after IPL. It will make you feel
better allocate the datasets on the running system to a job that will
execute for the duration expected for this activity (typically  1 min
while DSN's are being renamed), while you manipulate the new versions.

As long as the dataset is intact on the running system, existing jobs
will be fine. The copy can usually be manipulated at will with
appropriate security authorization. I have had this occur many times.
Just be very careful to only manipulate the copy, not  the original
dataset.

HTH,
snip
Allan, the problem is that the datasets are on the target res vol with
the same name as the dataset on the currently running res vol and they
are catalogged in the master cat. Eg. sys1.serblink, isf..sisfload. I
can iebcopy them to new bigger datasets with new names on the target res
vol but I can't rename them or the current live master cat will be
fubarred.
/snip

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Re: What's the difference in SMP/E between the SOURCEID's called RSUnnnn and PUTnnnn ???

2009-07-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 These systems datasets, isf.sisfload for example all were allocated
with 0 for secondary allocation. The compress that smp does when it
finds a full file worked quite well on 6 or the 11 datasets that got
d37's. Dir blocks was not the issue with most of them. I have this all
sorted out now


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called RSU and PUT ???

I prefer to just use the PDS tool (from the CBT Tape) to add an extent
to the dataset (as long as it is not already in 16 extents).  If it is
already in 16 extents, then you may be able to compress it and release
any unused extents - and then add a large extent.
 
I also use PDS to add directory blocks to a target dataset, if the
directory is full.

 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 7/22/2009 1:47 PM 
1) Create the new dataset, copy and load.
2) Uncat the new dataset
3) rename the original dataset on the ALTERNATE RESVOL with volser
reference
   a) expect dsn in use conflict message. Reply to proceed.
   b) if using ISPF you will see: Enter new name below:  (The data set
will not be cataloged.)
4) rename the new dataset on the ALTERNATE RESVOL with volser reference
   a) b) if using ISPF you will see: Enter new name below:  (The data
set will not be cataloged.)
5) Recat the original name if needed.

The key to this process is working with the datasets by VOLSER, not
CATREF.

Most SYSRES datasets are not referenced after IPL. It will make you feel
better allocate the datasets on the running system to a job that will
execute for the duration expected for this activity (typically  1 min
while DSN's are being renamed), while you manipulate the new versions.

As long as the dataset is intact on the running system, existing jobs
will be fine. The copy can usually be manipulated at will with
appropriate security authorization. I have had this occur many times.
Just be very careful to only manipulate the copy, not  the original
dataset.

HTH,
snip
Allan, the problem is that the datasets are on the target res vol with
the same name as the dataset on the currently running res vol and they
are catalogged in the master cat. Eg. sys1.serblink, isf..sisfload. I
can iebcopy them to new bigger datasets with new names on the target res
vol but I can't rename them or the current live master cat will be
fubarred.
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Strategy for applying toleration ptf's before other ptf's that affect members of an rrmplex.

2009-07-20 Thread Klein, Kenneth
The hold data for this apar says that toleration maintenance for all
members of an rmmplex must be applied before this ptf can safely be
applied so I chose to EXCLUDE it. Now the apply check gets real ugly
with lots of ptfs getting held back. Am I missing something here is this
the only way to roll out this maintenance onto our 3 lpars? I was
thinking of applying only the toleration ptf's and coming back for the
bulk of the rest, but I'm getting told that it will be hard enough to
get buy-in for one IPL. 


//SMPCNTL   DD   * 
 SET BOUNDARY ( RESZS3  ) .
  APPLY
SOURCEID(  
  PUT0902  
  PUT0903  
  PUT0904  
  PUT0905  
  RSU0903  
  RSU0904  
  RSU0905  
  )
BYPASS(
  HOLDSYSTEM(AO,DEP,DOC,ACTION,IPL,DB2BIND,
 DDDEF,DOWNLD,DYNACT,EC,ENH,EXIT,  
 MULTSYS,MSGSKEL,DELETE,RESTART))  
GROUPEXTEND
EXCLUDE(UA90457)   
CHECK  
.  

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Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
cool
z9 bc 2096 2 engines

 4 *-* CVT  = STORAGE(10,4)   
 ?::
5 *-* RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)
 ?o??   
6 *-* SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)
    
7 *-* SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)
 8743.1694  


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A bit late on this maybe but:

Determine the SU per second of your machine

You can get this with the following REXX code

CVT  = STORAGE(10,4) 
RMCT = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(CVT)+604),4)  
SU   = STORAGE(D2X(C2D(RMCT)+64),4)  
SU   = 1600/C2D(SU)  

For a 301 this would be 21857.9235

1 CPU second is therefor 21857.9235 Service Units

Divide this figure by 48.5 to get MIPS = 450.678835

Check that this correct by consulting Gartner etc and adjust the 48.5
more accurately

Use the actual Transaction CPU time to get the percentage of the 450
MIPS used E.G .002 secs = .9 MIPS

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What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
In today's environment and IBM's ever changing methods of
delivering/offering maintenance and upgrades to z/OS - what are your
common best practices?
Before every APPLY?
Never?


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Re: code page help

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Frank could you briefly expound on what the convert keyword is doing
for you? 


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Frank Swarbrick wrote:
 On 7/15/2009 at 1:18 PM, in message 
 4a5e2b75.7020...@trainersfriend.com,
 Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote:
 Frank Swarbrick wrote:

 You can change the codepage of your terminal emulator.

 Also, I always issue omvs this way:

   == omvs convert((bpxfx437)) esc('^') lines(3000)

 The convert gives me a useful codepage conversion (note the double 
 set of parentheses), the esc gives me a useful escape character, and 
 the lines gives me a larger terminal buffer so I can hold more 
 history.
 
 This doesn't seem to do anything for me with regard to the codepage.
If my terminal is CP 037 I still see the nonsense characters instead of
the left and right brackets.  Am I missing something?
 
 Frank

Hmmm. I use Vista3270 and it says my PC codepage is set at 437 and the
screen codepage is US C-Programming; finally my terminal type (ISPF
option 0) is set at 28 (3278L1).

After that, I'm mystified.



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Re: code page help

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Execute this exec to fireup omvs:

 * Top of Data
**
 /* REXX */

   P = PROMPT(ON); /* Don't suppress prompting */

   omvs pf1(control) sessions(1) NOSHAREAS ESCAPE('`\') lines(999)
; 
   X = PROMPT(P);/* Restore original prompting
state */  
   Return;

  Bottom of Data


I calls it myomvs, ah hah, ah hah.

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 On 7/15/2009 at 2:33 PM, in message
70c0964126d66f458e688618e1cd008a0859a...@wadpexv0.waddell.com, Michael
Wickman mwick...@waddell.com wrote:
 I use
 
 OMVS CONVERT((BPXFX111)) LINES(3000)

This worked.  Thanks!
Is there any way to put these in a Unix profile of some sort so that you
can just type OMVS?  Or is it too late to do it by that time, since OMVS
will have already been invoked?


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Re: Submit a JCL from within another JCL

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Just iebgener the cards into the internal reader, iefrdr or something
similar. 


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Hi,

I have a requirement where I need to submit a JCL stored in a flat file
/ KSDS file from within another JCL which is executing.

I remember there is some IKJ utility that allows us to do that, but, I
can't quite remember the name.

It would be great help if I can get some pointers.

Thanks,
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[no subject]

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I want to change this line in a panel definition in our main ispplib:

9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.SYSTS1.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'

to one like this:

9,'CMD(EX ''SVS.IBMOM.ZSYSID.SCKMPARM(CKMISPF)'')'

SYSTS1 is the name of our sandbox lpar. I want to use this panel
unchanged on the other lpars.
Is that how this system variable is used or do I have to use a vget into
my own variable.



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Re: code page help

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Ah, yes. With my emulator set to 037 using this trick does make the
display look correct. With the 1047 code page, it still looks garbled.

Now why does no combination of the above let my square brackets display
correctly?? 


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Klein, Kenneth wrote:
  Frank could you briefly expound on what the convert keyword is doing 
 for you?
 
 
 Ken Klein

Here's an experiment from our class Introduction to z/OS UNIX:

1. Get into omvs without a convert operand 2. Issue this (invalid)
command
  id -Gr
3. Examine the result; exit omvs
4. Get into omvs with a convert((bpxfx111)) operand 5. Issue the same
command 6. Compare the results.




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Re: code page help

2009-07-16 Thread Klein, Kenneth
BPXFX100

This is with the emulator configured for 037. 

SYSTS1:KQKTEMP:/u/kqktemp: id -Gr 
Usage: id Ýuser¨   
   id -G Ý-n¨ Ýuser¨   
   id -g Ý-nr¨ Ýuser¨  
   id -u Ý-nr¨ Ýuser¨  
   id -M   

1047

SYSTS1:KQKTEMP:/u/kqktemp: id -Gr
Usage: id [user]  
   id -G [-n] [user]  
   id -g [-nr] [user] 
   id -u [-nr] [user] 
   id -M  

But the square brackets still do not display right.
Do I have to change my keyboard to enter a different hex value?? 

SYSTS1:KQKTEMP:/u/kqktemp: qwertyuiop¬¦ 
qwertyuiop¬¦: FSUM7351 not found 
SYSTS1:KQKTEMP:/u/kqktemp: QWERTYUIOP{} 

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Have you tried with
OMVS CONVERT((BPXFX100))

Ray Pearce

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 Subject: Re: code page help
 
 
 Ah, yes. With my emulator set to 037 using this trick does make the 
 display look correct. With the 1047 code page, it still looks garbled.
 
 Now why does no combination of the above let my square brackets 
 display correctly??
 
 
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 Sr. Systems Programmer
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Re: code page help

2009-07-15 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
The default here was 037 on the supplied ibm personal communications emulator, 
but that can be easily changed in the settings.

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Subject: code page help

What code page should we use?
(What a question!)

We use codepage 037.  I observe that OMVS apparently uses code page 1047.  I 
say this because if I use code page 037 and go in to OMVS and type java I see 
on my screen:

Usage: java Ý-options¨ class Ýargs...¨

If I switch to code page 1047 I then see the expected:

Usage: java [-options] class [args...]

Is there any way to get OMVS to show the brackets correctly if I am using code 
page 037?

And what about C source code?  (And Java for that matter.)  We are not a C 
shop, but I can imagine that some day we might try a little Java. 
How do I use ISPF to edit Java source code and have the brackets turn out in a 
way that Java can recognise it?  And is there any way to convert C source code 
examples to code page 037?  For example,
CEE.SCEESAMP(EDCCICS) has the following line:
 extern COBOL void CUCICS(unsigned short *len, char (* running)[80]);

It looks fine if I have my terminal set to code page 1047, but not code page 
037.

Did we do something wrong when we installed z/OS?  What's up?

Thanks,
Frank

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Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread Klein, Kenneth
How about this one:

 0ADR472E (009)-NEWDS(06), UNABLE TO SELECT A TARGET VOLUME FOR DATA SET
SVS.RESZP1.OMVS.ROOT IN CATALOG CATALOG.TEST, 04  

You'd think the volume was full. But in the end, I found out that the
dataset name was already in use. And not the one listed, but the name I
was trying to renunc to! 


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Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages
getting ever more obtuse? 
I just submitted a simple JCL error.  Just put in a
VOL=SER=XX where XX is a volume we do not have in our shop.
Should be a simple error, with a simple IBM Message saying That VOLSER
does not exist, or is 
not online (dummy).   I would swear that used to be some such.  But
what 
I got was  EDG8197I VOLUME HFS009 IS NOT DFSMSrmm MANAGED  
Here is the expanded JCL.  so you might see that it is not
talking about tape. and NO, F83D is not a tape unit address, it is the
unit address of HFS000, and that was my typo. 
XXDASD DD  DISP=OLD,UNIT=/U,VOL=SER=V 
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=OLD,UNIT=/F83D,VOL=SER=HFS009 
There are a number of other examples of this, but now I am going
to start keeping track of them.  This message is worse than useless, it
misleads the unwary into thinking that RMM is involved in the problem. 

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-09 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I see one possible problem right off the bat; we now have a new lpar
that is not mentioned in the policy at all. This new sandbox lpar is the
one we have been ipl'ing during the day and causing the timeouts for
other lpars - production. 

/* Active Policy: NAME(KFBPS2) CONNFAIL(NO)  
   Defined:   07/27/2006 17:12:09.236924 User:BHD2160
   Activated: 07/27/2006 17:12:52.474340 
  SYSTEM NAME(*) 
WEIGHT(5)
ISOLATETIME(0)   
  2 System Definitions in this Policy
  SYSTEM NAME(PRODP1)
WEIGHT(200)  
PROMPT   
  SYSTEM NAME(TESTT1)
WEIGHT(10)   
  0 Reconfig Definitions in this Policy  
   End of Active Policy */

I'll check into init and tuna and see what these long gone sysprogs were
intending to do. We have nothing remotely like exspat in our parmlib. 

Was fuer Suessigkeiten essen Sie am liebsten? What kind of cookies do
you like, Barbara

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I was going to ask Mark how (and if) fencing works in a basic sysplex
when Skip (very oblingingly) provided the answer that it doesn't. :-(

So, in Kens case, he will always get IXC102A. 

A strong word of caution:
DO NOT automatically reply DOWN.

Mark, does this apply to a basic sysplex, too? Or would Ken be safe
having automation reply to it? 

Ken, from your couplexx, it appears that you do have an SFM CDS. You
will need to run this job to see what was defined as a policy.
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IXCMIAPU 
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD   *
  DATA TYPE(SFM) REPORT(YES) 

Then you need to read up on *what* is defined and what is defaulted, and
check against the values I mentioned before and how they work together. 

EXSPAT is excessive spin parmlib member, decribed in InitTuna.

My word of advise is to remove the parms INTERVAL, OPNOTIFY and CLEANUP
from your couplexx and have them default to whatever IBM thinks it
should be. 
Same goes if you have an EXSPATxx parmlib member defined and active.

If this gives you the longer interval before TCPIP starts complaining,
then all is fine. Otherwise you will need to 'tweak' the values for the
above parms.

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-09 Thread Klein, Kenneth
We have INTERVAL(85) and OPNOTIFY(87) and CLEANUP(15) so my question is
when the resources get frozen. The resources I am concerned about would
be the network, probably TCP/IP related, which cause the distributed
nodes to get timeouts. Is it when I issue the V,XCF,SYSTS1,OFFLINE or
R__,sysname=systs1 or when I click RESET - OK? And when does the
INTERVAL and OPNOTIFY period begin. Perhaps this site should set the
INTERVAL and OPNOTIFY to something like 30 and 35 to shorten the time
the resources are frozen. 

As far as weights are concerned, that calculation determines which lpars
remain in the sysplex if connectivity is disrupted. If A loses its
connection to B then will C continue sharing with A or B...

I remember Gummibaeren, not seen in the states too often. 


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Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

This actually requires reading up on what the parms in the SFM policy do
:-( I know why we treat all our systems the same! A quick look makes me
guess that they intended to specify different weights to the lpars to
keep the production system alive and kill the test system, if necessary.
That is kinda confirmed by the PROMPT for the production system. 

To be honest, while I (intellectually) understand the different weights,
in reality the cases I have seen did not leave any choice but to remove
a system that was 'dead' and was specified in either the ixc402D or
IXC102A, so one might as well treat them all alike!

EXSPAT: We don't have any such member in our parmlib concat, either. 
Meaning that we take all the IBM defaults. Then you apparently also take
the IBM default, which I would consider good.

As for the 'Suessigkeiten' - I am a fan of (virtual) gummibears! :-)
(Just ask my colleagues!) :-)

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-09 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I am not sure about VIPA and don't know how to check if that is in use
but I doubt it. The production lpar here is considered sacred and
recently the test lpar started to require high availability so they
carved out this relatively new lpar for our systems sandbox. Each lpar
has it's own ip address if that helps. It's only the sandbox that I have
been bouncing.  


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Kenneth,

AFAIK, you did not answer the question about (D)VIPA. Could it be that
the connections from remotes to the Production LPAR that remained alive,
were routed throught the LPAR that was reset? The situations are quite
different depending on the answer to this question.

Kees.

Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com wrote in message
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...
 We have INTERVAL(85) and OPNOTIFY(87) and CLEANUP(15) so my question
is
 when the resources get frozen. The resources I am concerned about
would
 be the network, probably TCP/IP related, which cause the distributed 
 nodes to get timeouts. Is it when I issue the V,XCF,SYSTS1,OFFLINE or
 R__,sysname=systs1 or when I click RESET - OK? And when does the 
 INTERVAL and OPNOTIFY period begin. Perhaps this site should set the 
 INTERVAL and OPNOTIFY to something like 30 and 35 to shorten the time 
 the resources are frozen.
 
 As far as weights are concerned, that calculation determines which
lpars
 remain in the sysplex if connectivity is disrupted. If A loses its 
 connection to B then will C continue sharing with A or B...
 
 I remember Gummibaeren, not seen in the states too often. 
 
 
 Ken Klein
 Sr. Systems Programmer
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 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:27 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.
 
 This actually requires reading up on what the parms in the SFM policy
do
 :-( I know why we treat all our systems the same! A quick look makes
me
 guess that they intended to specify different weights to the lpars to 
 keep the production system alive and kill the test system, if
necessary.
 That is kinda confirmed by the PROMPT for the production system. 
 
 To be honest, while I (intellectually) understand the different
weights,
 in reality the cases I have seen did not leave any choice but to
remove
 a system that was 'dead' and was specified in either the ixc402D or 
 IXC102A, so one might as well treat them all alike!
 
 EXSPAT: We don't have any such member in our parmlib concat, either. 
 Meaning that we take all the IBM defaults. Then you apparently also
take
 the IBM default, which I would consider good.
 
 As for the 'Suessigkeiten' - I am a fan of (virtual) gummibears! :-) 
 (Just ask my colleagues!) :-)
 
 Best regards, Barbara
 
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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Very interesting. In several shops I have just dealt with the message in
a timely fashion. We indeed do the v xcf,sysname,offline and every time
one of the other systems gets the  error  message. It does seem like a
kludge to me and I've suggested we set up ZAKK to automagically issue
the down. Note now tho that we are getting IXC102A and your note
references IXC402D. Furthermore, we don't get a 90 second grace period.
We get the error message immediately and in the 60 seconds it takes to
reply down we get the 'really ugly problems. On startup the lpar
happily rejoins the (mono?)plex with no problems. If you solve this,
Barbara, I will bake you some cookies. One other poster suggested the
distributed systems connected to the other lpar in this plex may be
confused due to VIPA definitions, but I have not tracked that down yet. 

1)  SHUTSYST
a)  PF9 = K E,1
2)  Stop or cancel tasks that refuse to recede as needed.
3)  Use Force as a last resort only.
a)  ALL AVAILABLE FUNCTIONS COMPLETE
4)  $PJES2
a)  JES2 ENDED
5)  Z EOD
6)  V XCF,SYSTS1,OFFLINE
a)  A confirmation message will prompt you
b)  R__,sysname=systs1
7)  Wait for the screen to blank and a few messages will reappear.
a)  TYPE 2096 - S07 Mfg = IBM ... 
8)  On HMC
a)  Click RESET
b)  Click OK
9)  On one of  the other systems that are still up (every second
counts!) 
a)  nn IXC102A XCF IS WAITING FOR SYSTEM SYSTS1 DEACTIVATION. REPLY
DOWN WHEN MVS ON SYSTS1 HAS BEEN SYSTEM RESET

b)  R__,DOWN




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Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

You're NOT supposed to get any message to which you have to reply DOWN!

The correct way to shut down a system in a sysplex is to ALWAYS ALWAYS
use vary xcf,sysname,offline. Then reply with the name of that system
again. 
(This is true for monoplexes, also!)

Remember that the IXC402D (reply down when mvs has been system reset) is
an ERROR condition message. Issued by XCF on another system after 90
seconds when the system in question does not update its couple CDS
heartbeat anymore (and does not communicate via XCF signalling anymore).

The reason for that failure to communicate *should* always be a 'real'
error on that system and never due to that system just getting its icon
dragged in the course of normal shutdown.

The purpose of vary xcf offline is to tell all connectors to all XCF
groups in that sysplex that a system will shortly be going away and do
cleanup on behalf of that system. Failure in that cleanup can lead to
really ugly problems during restart. 

regards, Barbara Nitz

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
What is SFM?


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Barbara,

Actually, you do get prompted for the message to reply down if you don't
have the SFM policy in place to handle it for you.  

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You're NOT supposed to get any message to which you have to reply DOWN!

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
COUPLE SYSPLEX(KFBP)  
   PCOUPLE(SYS1.XCF.KFBP.CDS01)   
   ACOUPLE(SYS1.XCF.KFBP.CDS02)   
   INTERVAL(85)   
   OPNOTIFY(87)   
   CLEANUP(15)
   MAXMSG(2000)   
   RETRY(10)  
   DATA TYPE(WLM) 
PCOUPLE(SYS1.WLM.KFBP.CDS01)  
ACOUPLE(SYS1.WLM.KFBP.CDS02)  
   DATA TYPE(SFM) 
PCOUPLE(SYS1.SFM.KFBP.CDS01)  
ACOUPLE(SYS1.SFM.KFBP.CDS02)  
   DATA TYPE(LOGR)
PCOUPLE(SYS1.LOGR.KFBP.CDS01) 
ACOUPLE(SYS1.LOGR.KFBP.CDS02) 
   CLASSDEF   
   CLASS(DEFAULT) 
   CLASSLEN(956)  
   CLASSDEF   
   CLASS(MEDIUM)  
   CLASSLEN(16316)
   CLASSDEF   
   CLASS(LARGE)   

What is EXSPAT? 


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Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

I should have read the full post before replying.

What did you specify for OPNOTIFY, CLEANUP and INTERVAL in your
couplexx? 
(We default all values.) What does your EXSPAT say? (It has an influence
- you need to read InitTuna and Setting up a Sysplex.)

The setting of these parms influences how long it takes until the
operator is notified (IXC102A) that a system is gone and needs to be
reset.

Barbara

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Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I should add that this site does _not_ have a CF. XCF is setup and
that's about it. 
The problem is with the distributed systems that use TCP/IP to talk to
the mainframe. Apparently the TCP stack freezes while this message is
outstanding waiting for the ,down reply and timeouts occur on remote
servers. 


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Subject: Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

Ups, forgot the SFM policy. (We have it active.) BUT: I have also seen
IXC102A *even though* sfm was active. *That* was a bug.

The book says:
3.  There are instances when this message will be issued and the
appropriate action must be taken even though there is an SFM policy
active in the sysplex.  If SFM cannot successfully isolate the system
image being removed, manual intervention will be required. This message
will be issued and must be responded to.

So I guess the question is if there is an SFM policy active. If so,
there should not be any message, and it needs to get investigated why
isolation via the CF (this is what SFM actually does) does not work.
This may take an IBM ETR to figure out. (In my case it was a mismatch in
code, and I think I got it solved by contacting someone in IBM
development directly.)

If there is no SFM policy, then one should be defined. Ours just
contains this:
DEFINE POLICY NAME(SFM01) REPLACE(YES) CONNFAIL(NO)   
   SYSTEM NAME(*) WEIGHT(100) PROMPT  

Best regards, Barbara

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Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 If you are running jobs in a jes mas you will receive the messages only
on the first lpar you log on to . 


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Subject: no longer notified

In our development LPAR I am having a problem where my job Notify no
longer seems to work.  That is, when I submit a job with NOTIFY=SYSUID
on the JOB card.  When the job ends I no longer receive a message like:
09.07.37 JOB02829 $HASP165 FJSBR14  ENDED AT ZOS  MAXCC=0 CN(INTERNAL)

No one else appears to be having this issue, and in fact on our
production LPAR I also do not have this issue.  Our ISPF profiles are
not shared between PROD and DEV (argh!) so I'm thinking I must have
changed something somewhere to cause this.  Systems has not been able to
determine what the issues is, and they have better things to do anyway.
Any thoughts on what the cause might be?

Oh, I forgot to note, once I log off and log back on I receive all of
the notify messages that are queued up for me!

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Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-07 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Has anyone seen a problem with distributed systems timing out when
connected to a mainframe when one of the lpars is shutdown and ipled. In
the 60 seconds from the reply down message to getting the reply typed
in we had 100 timeouts show up on a system connected to the production
lpar, which was not the one ipled. 

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Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-06 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
This version must be pretty old then. I see now in the source that the
idfind call is scanning the ckidlist before issuing the racroute macro.
I found the ckidlist and put myself in it but I have not found the
idfind code to relink the ckidlist into it. This backdoor seems like a
juicy item for any auditors who might stumble upon it and I might be
accused of security violations if I do not reveal it's existence to my
manager. All that is probably a good justification for purchasing a
product that adheres to ITIL best practices. Please send me any
promotional material you have for me to present to management when I
advise them to get your product. The down side is that the only purpose
I have seen so far for this program is to issue the vary off and vary on
of a volser in the process of cloning a res pack. We use ASG's ZAKK for
automation.   

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Subject: Re: Command program from the cbt

Which version of command are you using?  There were two versions taht
used to be on CBT, one that I had updated a bit but was actually Food
Lion's code and another one that we stopped putting there (same name)
after 2005 or so that we completely re-wrote and added 36 special
commands and IF/THEN/ELSE coding capabilities to the command scripts and
now market as SyzCMDZ.

The version (originally from Food Lion) does check the Facility class,
and our version used to check both the facility class and had a table
that could be used to allow finer tuning than just a simple class check.
We later changed it so that the fine tuning was included into RACF (or
ACF2/TSS) instead so that people didn't have to relink the module every
time they wanted to add the capability for someone (or some job) to
issue a display command.

If you have one of our older versions, you can either have them give you
access to the Facility class (classname) or add you to the table.  We
provided the ability to move the table call before the RACF call, and
also to ignore what happened in the RACF call and just use the table, so
it's possible that they took one of those avenues.

Needless to say, (but I'll say it anyway), if you are running a version
that is that old, you might want to think about upgrading to the newest
version with all of the special bells and whistles, the normal $5k price
is discounted 50% for people who are members of IBMMAIN.

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Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-03 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Even more insidious are the methods of reading how strongly the
magnetized bit is positive or negative. If the bit is on, but not as
strongly as others, it might have been off before getting flipped. If
very strongly on it might have been reinforced when the 1 bit was
written to it. It would take several passes of randomized ones and zeros
to fool this technology.


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Subject: Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

Eric Bielefeld wrote:
 I always wondered if it was possible to read data if binary zeros or 
 some other pattern were written to the disk.  I thought that it would 
 be very hard, which the article quoted seemed to agree with.  But 
 then, I noticed that the writer of the article didn't sign his name.

As I understand it, the magnetized portion of a track is slightly wider
than the write head. When a track is rewritten, the head alignment will
be slightly different, leaving a little bit of the original track. So
what you are writing on subsequent passes doesn't really matter, unless
you do it often enough to make it unlikely to retain any trace of the
original.  And of course there are the newfangled storage boxes where
you get a different physical track on every write.



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Where does z/unix store each lpar's hostname?

2009-07-03 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I thought it would be in /etc... 


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Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I'm new here. I get a RACF 913 abend when I try to run the program
called command from the cbt that they use here. The RACF administrator
insists that my id has all the same settings as the other guys in this
group who can run the program with success. I can see in the source that
the racroute macro is returning a rc higher than 4 but that doesn't help
our RACF guru. Can anyone tell me what RACF commands to run to show this
guy what needs to be tweaked?  


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Re: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Leider nicht der Fall.

these are the only messages from the job. How do I set up UAUDIT?

-  01 JUL 2009 JOB EXECUTION DATE

-9 CARDS READ

-   42 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

-0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

-3 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

- 0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME

1 //KQKTEMPC  JOB (3356,277),'KLEIN, KEN',MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
JOB01848 
  //  CLASS=L,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=SYSUID,REGION=0M

  //* JOBCARD CREATED AT 10:05:14 ON  1 JUL 2009

  //* JES NODE=SYSTNODE SYSTEM=SYSTS1 LEVEL=JES2 Z/OS 1.9

  //* JCL TO RUN THIS JOB: KQKTEMP.$TSO.JCLLIB(COMMAND)

  /*JOBPARM LINES=99,CARDS=99

 
//*=+1+2+3+4+5+6+7==

  IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - (3356,277),'KLEIN,
KEN',MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=L,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=KQKTEMP,REGION=0M   
2 //VARYOFF   EXEC PGM=COMMAND,

  //  PARM='D SYMBOLS'

 DTM1459I 2009.182 10:05:58 JOB KQKTEMPC REQUEUED TO CLASS=L

 ICH70001I KQKTEMP  LAST ACCESS AT 08:43:09 ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 1, 2009

 CMD107I SAFRC04: USING SECONDARY CHECK

 CMD913E UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE COMMAND PROGRAM - JOB ABORTED

 IEF472I KQKTEMPC VARYOFF - COMPLETION CODE - SYSTEM=913 USER=
REASON= 
 IEF373I STEP/VARYOFF /START 2009182.1006

 IEF374I STEP/VARYOFF /STOP  2009182.1006 CPU0MIN 00.01SEC SRB
0MIN 00.00SEC VIRT24K SYS   212K EXT   4K SYS
 IEF375I  JOB/KQKTEMPC/START 2009182.1006

 IEF376I  JOB/KQKTEMPC/STOP  2009182.1006 CPU0MIN 00.01SEC SRB
0MIN 00.00SEC 


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Subject: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

Hi Kenneth,

abend 913 is from OPEN macro, not from RACF. Its explanation reads to
check message IEC150I. Insufficient authorization is one of several
possible reasons. The reason code will give detailed explanation. Let's
assume, it is a SAF authorization problem and not I/O, JCL, APF etc. 
related. Did you look for SAF messages already, for example ICH408I?
They typically pinpoint to the missing resource authorization. If they
do not appear, you might want to read SMF recordings or even set up
UAUDIT for your user ID to gain information about the missing profile
authorization. 
Since you seem to have access to the source, you even might want to
check the program logic for RACROUTE macros in order to identify the
profiles that are beeing checked. 

Cheers 
Michael




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I'm new here. I get a RACF 913 abend when I try to run the program
called command from the cbt that they use here. The RACF administrator
insists that my id has all the same settings as the other guys in this
group who can run the program with success. I can see in the source that
the racroute macro is returning a rc higher than 4 but that doesn't help
our RACF guru. Can anyone tell me what RACF commands to run to show this
guy what needs to be tweaked? 


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Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
thanks to all who are offering up the good clues!!

The source here may have been modified by a previous systems guy. This
part of the code is where I'm getting booted I think. I know I'm getting
the cmd107i message and then the message from the NOTAUTH routine. What
is this IDFIND routine??  


FINDUSER DS0H  -RPMAC 
 WTO   'CMD107I SAFRC04: USING SECONDARY CHECK',ROUTCDE=(2,11)
 CALL  IDFIND  SEE IF THE CURRENT USER IS  -RPMAC 
 LTR   R15,R15 ALTERNATIVELY AUTHORIZED.   -RPMAC 
 BZEXTRACT   ZERO RETURN IS A-OK   -RPMAC 
 B NOTAUTH  913 AND OUT-RPMAC 
* 

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Subject: Re: Command program from the cbt

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:28 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
wrote:

 No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF 
messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program. I 
can see in the code that he does a rackroute and the BH command sends 
control straight to the error message and abends.


Your RACF guy is wrong,  it's a RACF issue.I use COMMAND in my
sandbox
LPARs for startup and shutdown and have the source.   It checks the 
RACF FACILITY class for a profile called COMMAND to see if you have
access.I don't have anything defined, so it works without it.  But
your
system must have a COMMAND profile defined in the FACILITY class and you
are not authorized.

Here is a snippet of source:

*** 
* * 
*  CHECK THE AUTHORITY OF THE USER TO SAF CLASS FACILITY' FOR* 
*  ENTITY COMMAND.  NOTE THAT FASTAUTH IS USED.  TO AVOID THE   * 
*  SITUATION WHERE SPECIAL ATTRIBUTES OF THE USER MAY ALLOW THE   * 
*  ACCESS WITH LOGGING, A CHECK IS MADE FOR A NON-ZERO REASON * 
*  CODE.  THIS CONDITION WILL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE.* 
* * 
*** 
AUTHTST  RACROUTE REQUEST=FASTAUTH,WORKA=RACWORK,WKAREA=FRACWORK,  X
   ENTITY=RESOURCE,CLASS=FACILITY,ATTR=READ,   X
   MF=(E,RACROUTE)  
 CHR15,=H'4'   TEST THE RETURN CODE 
 BEEXTRACT NO DECISION POSSIBLE, OK 
 BHNOTAUTH GREATER THAN 4, NOT AUTHORIZED   
 CLC   RACROUTE+4(4),=F'0' TEST THE REASON CODE 
 BEEXTRACT ZERO, AUTHORIZED 
NOTAUTH  WTO   'CMD913E UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE COMMAND PROGRAM - JOB AX
   BORTED',ROUTCDE=(2,11)   
 ABEND X'913',,,SYSTEM,REASON=0  ABEND THE JOB  


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Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF
messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program. I can
see in the code that he does a rackroute and the BH command sends
control straight to the error message and abends. 


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Subject: Re: Command program from the cbt

If you have a 913 abend, you probably also have an ICH408I message in
the log that should tell the RACF guy exactly what is failing. 

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Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Yes, I was way off base chasing the RACF problem. Turns out, somebody
coded up a little program that goes out and checks a hard coded list of
user names to see who should get to run the program. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 
 On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:28 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
 wrote:
 
  No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF 
 messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program. I
can
 see in the code that he does a rackroute and the BH command sends 
 control straight to the error message and abends.
 
 
 Your RACF guy is wrong,  it's a RACF issue.I use COMMAND in my
sandbox
 LPARs for startup and shutdown and have the source.   It checks the
 RACF FACILITY class for a profile called COMMAND to see if you have
 access.I don't have anything defined, so it works without it.  But
your
 system must have a COMMAND profile defined in the FACILITY class and 
 you are not authorized.
 
 Here is a snippet of source:
 

***
 *
*
 *  CHECK THE AUTHORITY OF THE USER TO SAF CLASS FACILITY' FOR
*
 *  ENTITY COMMAND.  NOTE THAT FASTAUTH IS USED.  TO AVOID THE
*
 *  SITUATION WHERE SPECIAL ATTRIBUTES OF THE USER MAY ALLOW THE
*
 *  ACCESS WITH LOGGING, A CHECK IS MADE FOR A NON-ZERO REASON
*
 *  CODE.  THIS CONDITION WILL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE.
*
 *
*

***
 AUTHTST  RACROUTE REQUEST=FASTAUTH,WORKA=RACWORK,WKAREA=FRACWORK,
X
ENTITY=RESOURCE,CLASS=FACILITY,ATTR=READ,
X
MF=(E,RACROUTE)
  CHR15,=H'4'   TEST THE RETURN CODE
  BEEXTRACT NO DECISION POSSIBLE, OK
  BHNOTAUTH GREATER THAN 4, NOT AUTHORIZED
  CLC   RACROUTE+4(4),=F'0' TEST THE REASON CODE
  BEEXTRACT ZERO, AUTHORIZED
 NOTAUTH  WTO   'CMD913E UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE COMMAND PROGRAM - JOB
AX
BORTED',ROUTCDE=(2,11)
  ABEND X'913',,,SYSTEM,REASON=0  ABEND THE JOB

Based on the OP's subsequent post showing SAFRC04, his job is failing
somewhere after the EXTRACT label.  Absence of the COMMAND profile in
FACILITY appears not to be the problem.

   -jc-

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Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-07-01 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Danke vielmals.

All good advice and the apply check ran showing me what all will get touched.


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 I thought I would be running the apply on the system I was upgrading.


You *can* apply maintenance on a live system, but this is something you can do 
on a sandbox LPAR, certainly not on a production LPAR. And, even if you apply 
PTFs on a live sandbox LPAR, this practice is not recommendable.

 How can you apply maintenance to omvs _and_ z/os from a different lpar??

AFAIK, this is the safest way to apply PTFs on a z/OS system; that is, from one 
LPAR to a 'dead' LPAR.
The DDDEFs for datasets of the target (or dead) LPAR must point to the correct 
SYSRES volume. The DDDEFs for PATHs of the target (or dead) LPAR must be 
prefixed by something like '/service/' .
Then, the zFS or HFS datasets of the target LPARs must be mounted on the 
/service/ mountpoint on the living LPAR where the apply job run. 

I believe this is a normal practice, which doesn't imply any risks.


Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany 



  

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Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-07-01 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Thanks, good advice. It's working now. What is this automount
management all about? 

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Subject: Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:16:37 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com wrote:

So now if I IPL onto the new target res pack and all the files get 
mounted under /Service, the apply (check) should find everything? 
Should I set up the bpxprm__ to mount all these /Service mountpoints at

IPL or would it be better to mount them with the mount command?

Yes, given that your DDDEFs are set up for /Service/RESZS1, an apply in
the target zone pointing to RESZS1 will find the right paths.  Review
your APPLY CHECK allocation report to verify, before moving to APPLY.

Since your follow-up note suggests you want to be able to apply
maintenance to this zone from a different LPAR, then eventually be able
to IPL from the SYSRES  HFS, I would discourage using BPXPRMxx to mount
them at IPL.  
Adding mount/unmount to your clone/maintenance process would be better,
and IMHO, automount management would be better still.  Either way, you
still have to be exceedingly careful if you go outside the sysplex (GRS)
boundary (unless you have MIM).


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Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9

2009-07-01 Thread Klein, Kenneth
The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst,
and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N).
So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress?
Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data?


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Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9

2009-07-01 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
  
   Actions for OA25602:   
  
 Before the installation of this APAR, if you implemented 
   exit specified in parmlib member MPFLSTxx and with message 
   processing installation exit IEAVMXIT.  With this APAR,
   Message Flood Automation is integrated in z/OS, eliminating
   the use for the exit routines.  Message Flood Automation must  
   be removed from these exit routines:   
  
 Steps to take:   
  
   - Update your MPFLSTxx parmlib member to remove all
 .CMD USEREXIT(CNZZCMXT) statements.  
  
   - If you have a CONTROL M (K M) command in your CONSOLxx   
 or yout COMMNDxx, you must remove it.
  
   - If you use exit IEAVMXIT only for Message Flood  
 Automation, update your CONSOLxx parmlib member to   
 change the INIT statement option of UEXIT(Y) to  
 UEXIT(N). Note: Do not do this if you want to
 continue to use IEAVMXIT for other   
 purposes.
  

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I don't have the HOLD data in front of me, but as I recall 'exit
removal'
referred only to message suppression logic, not to the exit per se. For
example, we use the exit to set message color by system, not for
suppression. The exit is still in place and working fine. I think the
HOLD record is poorly worded and misleading, but the gist is there if
you ponder it long enough.

.
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The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst,
and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N).
So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress?
Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data?


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Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-06-30 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I have something like this: 

# pwd  
/Service   
# du . 
16 ./RESZS1/etc
16 ./RESZS1/jv390  
   160 ./RESZS1/root   
16 ./RESZS1/var
   224 ./RESZS1
   240 .   
#  

The dddefs are all set up with cloned paths just like on our production
system, about 160 paths to omvs files under /Service/sysr1. 

So now if I IPL onto the new target res pack and all the files get
mounted under /Service, the apply (check) should find everything? Should
I set up the bpxprm__ to mount all these /Service mountpoints at IPL or
would it be better to mount them with the mount command? 

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
502-495-5000 x7011

-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:stars...@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Klein, Kenneth
Subject: Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

Since this is long, I thought I would take it off list.

When I installed z/OS V1.9 I kept everything in the SERVERPAC (Tlibs,
Dlibs, etc)  as is.  Then  I copied the OMVS and TLIBS to SYSRES Volumes
to IPL.

That way I could always use the base SMP/E environment I setup for the
initial install of the operating system

There is a phiolosphy in the Manuals that you create new SYSRES and OMVS
envrionment, and point the new OMVS environment to the /SERVICE
directory.  This way you can apply your maint to the new targets and not
affect your production stuff.  Since zFS files MUST be cataloged, you
probably want to use something like OMVS.LPARname.ROOT.SYRESvol   to
keep them unique  (OMVS.LPAR1.ROOT.SRES1A)


The path you take will be however you want to maintain your systems.

I prefer to keep everything in SMP/E as shipped (I use ZOS19T for tlibs
and ZOS19D for dlibs and ZOS19 for all other datasets).  Then I just use
FDR to pick up the ZOS19T and place them on the new SYSRES home and
change ZOS19T to SYS1.  Then do any other customization needed for the
IPL (like the SAD program)

If you have questions feel free to write.

Lizette


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Sent: Jun 26, 2009 10:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

Newbie question: I'm starting my research into how to apply maintenance

to omvs for the first time in _my_ career. I'm fine with z/os, smp/e, 
the csi and zones, put's, rsu's and so on but this shop (I'm new here) 
has some clone-jobs that set up the whole hfs file structure under a 
/Service node. What the heck is that for?


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Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-06-30 Thread Klein, Kenneth
What still confuses me about the way these jobs were set up to apply
maintenance to z/os is that the bpxprm__ uses the sysr1 symbol as the
second level qualifier of the omvs.root/etc/var/java*/sigyroot/scsdroot
files so if I clone to reszs3 I still have to apply my maintenance from
say reszs1 to apply it to the reszs3 omvs datasets. But then the smp
apply job running on reszs1 would have to set boundary to the target
zone of reszs3. I thought I would be running the apply on the system I
was upgrading. How can you apply maintenance to omvs _and_ z/os from a
different lpar??


Ken Klein
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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:17 AM
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Subject: Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

I have something like this: 

# pwd  
/Service   
# du . 
16 ./RESZS1/etc
16 ./RESZS1/jv390  
   160 ./RESZS1/root   
16 ./RESZS1/var
   224 ./RESZS1
   240 .   
#  

The dddefs are all set up with cloned paths just like on our production
system, about 160 paths to omvs files under /Service/sysr1. 

So now if I IPL onto the new target res pack and all the files get
mounted under /Service, the apply (check) should find everything? Should
I set up the bpxprm__ to mount all these /Service mountpoints at IPL or
would it be better to mount them with the mount command? 

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
502-495-5000 x7011

-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Klein, Kenneth
Subject: Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

Since this is long, I thought I would take it off list.

When I installed z/OS V1.9 I kept everything in the SERVERPAC (Tlibs,
Dlibs, etc)  as is.  Then  I copied the OMVS and TLIBS to SYSRES Volumes
to IPL.

That way I could always use the base SMP/E environment I setup for the
initial install of the operating system

There is a phiolosphy in the Manuals that you create new SYSRES and OMVS
envrionment, and point the new OMVS environment to the /SERVICE
directory.  This way you can apply your maint to the new targets and not
affect your production stuff.  Since zFS files MUST be cataloged, you
probably want to use something like OMVS.LPARname.ROOT.SYRESvol   to
keep them unique  (OMVS.LPAR1.ROOT.SRES1A)


The path you take will be however you want to maintain your systems.

I prefer to keep everything in SMP/E as shipped (I use ZOS19T for tlibs
and ZOS19D for dlibs and ZOS19 for all other datasets).  Then I just use
FDR to pick up the ZOS19T and place them on the new SYSRES home and
change ZOS19T to SYS1.  Then do any other customization needed for the
IPL (like the SAD program)

If you have questions feel free to write.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
Sent: Jun 26, 2009 10:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

Newbie question: I'm starting my research into how to apply maintenance

to omvs for the first time in _my_ career. I'm fine with z/os, smp/e, 
the csi and zones, put's, rsu's and so on but this shop (I'm new here) 
has some clone-jobs that set up the whole hfs file structure under a 
/Service node. What the heck is that for?


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville

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Re: IBM COD

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I'll bet it affected the fees you pay for software licenses!!


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We have a z9 and use CoD regularly (2 to 3 times a year.) To this date,
it has not affected our applications and/or subsystems (DB2, CICS, etc.)
in any way.  If you have any specific questions, you can contact me off
the line.


Frank Martinez
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sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 

IGD17223I JOBNAME jobname PROGRAM NAME progname STEPNAME stepname DDNAME

   ddname DATA SET dsn WAS ALLOCATED TO AN OVERFLOW STORAGE GROUP

   ofsg.

 

Explanation:  This message is issued when the volume selection
algorithms 
resulted in the selection of one or more volumes that belong to an

overflow storage group.


I'm a real rookie with SMS. I'm getting this message when I try to
allocate a dataset on a specific target volume with dfdss using 

//OMVSS3DD   UNIT=SYSDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=OMVSS3
//SYSIN DD   * 
 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -  
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) - 
BYPASSACS(**)  -   
STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) - 
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , - 
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 ) 

I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to the
right one. 

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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Done all that. No joy.
How I can I view the acs routines, and display the attributes of these
classes??

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
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Kenneth,

The key is NSC (null storage class) and NMC (null management class). I
would take out the STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) and code NSC NMC.

Thanks
Natarajan 

 Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 6/29/2009 9:45 AM 


IGD17223I JOBNAME jobname PROGRAM NAME progname STEPNAME stepname DDNAME

   ddname DATA SET dsn WAS ALLOCATED TO AN OVERFLOW STORAGE GROUP

   ofsg.

 

Explanation:  This message is issued when the volume selection
algorithms resulted in the selection of one or more volumes that belong
to an

overflow storage group.


I'm a real rookie with SMS. I'm getting this message when I try to
allocate a dataset on a specific target volume with dfdss using 

//OMVSS3DD   UNIT=SYSDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=OMVSS3
//SYSIN DD   * 
 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -  
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) - 
BYPASSACS(**)  -   
STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) - 
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , - 
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 ) 

I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to the
right one. 

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Re: ISPF function keys

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
EDIT   KQKTEMP.$TSO.JCLLIB(CLONE2B) - 01.04
Columns 1 00080
Command ===
Scroll === CSR   -- what is in this field, csr? page? 0?


Unfortunately IBM has chosen to allow 0 as a valid scroll amount. 

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Kurt, what happens in Edit mode if you type Up or Down, Top or
Bottom in the command line?

Also, in the Keys display, what do PF19 and 20 show?
Don

2009/6/29 Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com

 ...
 When they edit this member the pf7 and pf8 keys do nothing.

 I have displayed the pf keys using the 'keys' command...



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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Thanks, everyone. I have it figured out now and learned a bunch.

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

Do you want to view the ACS? (ISMF) or do you want a way to see what ACS
is using for your allocation? 

ISMF can let you view/update your ACS routines and SC, SG, etc...  

However, if you want to see how it is allocating the file, then I think
you need to setup a test case.

Lizette




 
Done all that. No joy.
How I can I view the acs routines, and display the attributes of these 
classes??

Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 
502-495-5000 x7011

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

Kenneth,

The key is NSC (null storage class) and NMC (null management class). I 
would take out the STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) and code NSC NMC.

Thanks
Natarajan

 Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 6/29/2009 9:45 AM 


IGD17223I JOBNAME jobname PROGRAM NAME progname STEPNAME stepname 
DDNAME

   ddname DATA SET dsn WAS ALLOCATED TO AN OVERFLOW STORAGE GROUP

   ofsg.

 

Explanation:  This message is issued when the volume selection 
algorithms resulted in the selection of one or more volumes that belong

to an

overflow storage group.


I'm a real rookie with SMS. I'm getting this message when I try to 
allocate a dataset on a specific target volume with dfdss using

//OMVSS3DD   UNIT=SYSDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=OMVSS3
//SYSIN DD   * 
 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -  
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) - 
BYPASSACS(**)  -   
STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) - 
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , - 
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 ) 

I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to the

right one.


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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
I am using bypassacs(**) nmc and nsc. Without all three sms still grabs
the allocation.  

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Just curious, what was the resolution?

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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I'm cloning a series of datasets for the smp datasets and the omvs
files. I want them all on the same volser so changing the dddefs will be
simpler. i.e. I don't have to look up each randomly allocated dataset to
update it's dddef. 

Tom, did you ever work in Glen allen?  


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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:20 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote:


 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) -
BYPASSACS(**)  -
STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) -
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , -
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 )

I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to the

right one.

No one yet has asked you this.  Why do you need this data set on a
specific volume?  Isn't this log data set unique to this SMP/E zone?  If
so, your DDDEF can simply reference it by DSNAME.

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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 I'm trying to follow the existing procedures as closely as possible
till I feel a little more confident in changing things. Only been here 6
weeks. The jobs I found had a step that cloned the smp/e target1 to
target2 on a new pack and did a zoneedit on the imported exported target
zone to change all the dddefs. You are right, they all have unique names
with the name of the res pack sysrs1 in the name. Next time I'll make
some improvements to KISS. 


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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:57 PM
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Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

  They can still be referenced by name via the catalog, assuming unique
names. I only use volume references for target datasets. Distribution
and SMP/E land in SMS managed pools. 

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:48 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume
 
 I'm cloning a series of datasets for the smp datasets and the omvs 
 files. I want them all on the same volser so changing the dddefs will 
 be simpler. i.e. I don't have to look up each randomly allocated 
 dataset to update it's dddef.
 
 Tom, did you ever work in Glen allen?
 
 
 Ken Klein
 Sr. Systems Programmer
 Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 
 502-495-5000 x7011
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:37 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume
 
 On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:20 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote:
 
 
  COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
 CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -
 CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) -
 BYPASSACS(**)  -
 STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) -
   RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , -
SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
  )
 
 I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to
 the
 
 right one.
 
 No one yet has asked you this.  Why do you need this data set on a 
 specific volume?  Isn't this log data set unique to this SMP/E zone?
 If
 so, your DDDEF can simply reference it by DSNAME.
 
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Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

2009-06-29 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Tom, see my earlier post about dddefs. 


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(off list)

You didn't answer the question.   Perhaps I didn't ask it clearly.

If the data set name for the log is unique, as it appears to be, why do
you want to put the volser in the DDDEF?  Why not access it through the
catalog?

No, I've never been to Glen Allen.

Tom Marchant


On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:47:34 -0400, Klein, Kenneth
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
wrote:

I'm cloning a series of datasets for the smp datasets and the omvs 
files. I want them all on the same volser so changing the dddefs will 
be simpler. i.e. I don't have to look up each randomly allocated 
dataset to update it's dddef.

Tom, did you ever work in Glen allen?


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 
502-495-5000 x7011

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Behalf Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: sms overriding my specification of target volume

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:20 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote:


 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) -
BYPASSACS(**)  -
STORCLAS(SCNONSMS) OUTDDNAME(OMVSS3) -
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP1.SMPTLOG , -
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 )

I've got to ge able to specify a volume so my DDDef's will point to 
the

right one.

No one yet has asked you this.  Why do you need this data set on a 
specific volume?  Isn't this log data set unique to this SMP/E zone?  
If so, your DDDEF can simply reference it by DSNAME.

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z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-06-26 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Newbie question: I'm starting my research into how to apply maintenance
to omvs for the first time in _my_ career. I'm fine with z/os, smp/e,
the csi and zones, put's, rsu's and so on but this shop (I'm new here)
has some clone-jobs that set up the whole hfs file structure under a
/Service node. What the heck is that for?  


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Re: Another one bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 The U of KY shut down it's mainframe in 2006 +/- after setting up all
new apps (SAP) on DB2 on AIX on pSeries machines, 4 of them, 3 p570's
and a p550. Cost and energy savings, nada. But the savings from being
able to hire fresh grads for support/development over veteran
mainframers may have been an incentive. 


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 IBM has 11 years to convince their management the mainframe is good
idea.  They didn't succeeded or even didn't try.

IBM used to give huge discounts to universities. About 15-20 or so years
ago they did away with the discounts and universities started migrating
off the mainframe. The few that are left mostly use mainframes for some
type of administrative processing. The processing done by students is
done on PCs or on eunuchs systems, where years ago the processing was
done on mainframes.  I don't think IBM failed to convince the university
in question to stay on the mainframe; I think IBM abandoned the
educational mainframe market a long time ago.

 BTW: green is sales pitch. My green z10 consumes exactly 50% more 
 power than blue z9.

I can't dispute this statement as we don't have a z10 (yet). I would be
interested whether other z10 customers share your findings. I would also
like to hear a response from IBM.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Another one bites the dust

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Actually the U I used to work for still got educational discounts from
IBM for hardware and software purchases up till just a few years ago,
albeit thru the business partner. 
 
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snippage

IBM used to give huge discounts to universities. About 15-20 or so years
ago they did away with the discounts and universities started migrating
off the mainframe. The few that are left mostly use mainframes for some
type of administrative processing. The processing done by students is
done on PCs or on eunuchs systems, where years ago the processing was
done on mainframes.  I don't think IBM failed to convince the university
in question to stay on the mainframe; I think IBM abandoned the
educational mainframe market a long time ago.
snip

I'm not sure, but I think there was some kind of consent decree or other
as a result of an Anti-Trust action that put the skids to this. Now that
all those have expired (I think), one might wonder when IBM will go for
this market driver again.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: JCT Not Available

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
'only failed' as an edit command? Where did you get this only command?
CBT? 


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Unfortunately, it is possible to have a JOBID and still be running
under MSTR. 
That is: Every STC running under a JES will have a JOBID. However, not

every STC with a JOBID is necessarily running under a JES. As an 
example,
*MASTER* on my system has a JOBID. But that is the Master Scheduler 
which is started at IPL time. It is not running under JES!

And doing an SE line command in SDSF for *master* is a nice touch to see
the syslog of that system, all the edit commands can easily be used to
search for things. I tend to use this right after an IPL, when I need to
see if anything has failed to start or got an error and a few other
catchphrases ('only failed' as an edit command, for instance).

Automation netview is another example of an STC started sub=mstr that
gets itself a jobid later to place the AOFLOG.

When I got 'JCT NOT AVAILABLE' I was told to issue the SDSF command
'input on' in the command line. I have never understood why, and
besides, in many cases it didn't help, anyway.

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Re: Antwort: IF-Statement in JCL

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Here is a good example of extensive use of the if/then/else construct in
jcl that I ran across just this week. I can't claim to have originated
it but I surely stole a copy for my personal jcllib. 


 //STEP0010  EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6M
//SMPCSIDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.GLOBAL.CSI
//TGTDD DD   DSN=SVS.MIRROR.RESZP2.TO.RESZS3.D090624,
//  DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
//  SPACE=(CYL,(100,50),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA
//SMPLOGDD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPLOGA   DD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPCNTL   DD   *
  SET BOUNDARY(RESZP2) .
  ZONEEXPORT
(RESZP2)   /* source ResVol zone */
OUTFILE(TGTDD) NOPURGE.
/*
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0) THEN
//STEP0015  EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6M
//SMPCSIDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPOUTDD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPLOGDD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPLOGA   DD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPCNTL   DD   *
  SET BOUNDARY(RESZS3)
  /*
 This will generate a non-zero return code if
 the zone is not defined. As would be the case
 the first time we clone to a new sysres volume
  */
   .
/*
//*
//CHKTZONE IF (STEP0015.RC EQ 0) THEN
//*
//*   zero return from step0019 means target zone exists, back it
//*   up and drop the zone index (purge) from global
//*
//STEP0017  EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6M
//SMPCSIDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPLOGDD   SYSOUT=*
//SMPLOGA   DD   SYSOUT=*
//TGTDD DD   DSN=SVS.MIRROR.RESZS3.BKUP.D090624,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),
//  SPACE=(CYL,(100,50),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA
//SMPCNTL   DD   *
  SET BOUNDARY(RESZS3) .
  ZONEEXPORT
(RESZS3)   /* new ResVol zone */
OUTFILE(TGTDD) PURGE(INDEX).
/*
//*
//CHKTZONE ELSE
//*
//*   Brand New target zone, nothing to back up or purge
//*  so set good return code for later checks
//*
//STEP0018  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//*
//CHKTZONE ENDIF
//*
//  IF ((STEP0017.RUN AND STEP0017.RC=0) OR
//  STEP0018.RC = 0) THEN
//STEP0020  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//  ENDIF
//  ENDIF
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0020.RC EQ 0) THEN
//*
//* DELETE AND CLONE SMPE TRACKING PDS DATASETS AND LOGS
//*   for the cloned target
//*
//STEP0024  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD   *
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPLTS
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPMTS
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPSCDS
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPSTS
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG
   DELETE  SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOGA
   SET MAXCC = 0
//STEP0026  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD   *
 COPY   DATASET( INCL(SMPE.Z19.RESZP2.SMPTLOG  )) -
CONCURRENT NOTIFYCONCURRENT -
CATALOG TOL(ENQF) WAIT(2,30) -
STORCLAS ( SCNONSMS ) OUTDYNAM(OMVSS3) -
  RENUNC( (SMPE.Z19.RESZP2.SMPTLOG , -
   SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.SMPTLOG  ) -
 )
//  ENDIF
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0020.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0026.RC LE 4) THEN
//STEP0030  EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6M
//SMPCSIDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPCNTL   DD   *
  SET BOUNDARY(GLOBAL).
  UCLIN.
  ADD GZONE ZINDEX ((RESZS3,SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.CSI,TARGET)) .
  ENDUCL.
/*
//  ENDIF
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0020.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0026.RC LE 4 AND
//  STEP0030.RC EQ 0) THEN
//***//
//* DEFINE THE ZONE *//
//***//
//STEP0040  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD   *
  DELETE SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.CSI
  SET MAXCC = 0
  DEFINE CLUSTER(+
  NAME(SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.CSI) +
  FREESPACE(25,10) +
  KEYS(24 0) +
  CYLINDERS(2 1)CISZ(4096) +
)
/*
//  ENDIF
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0020.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0026.RC LE 4 AND
//  STEP0030.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0040.RC EQ 0) THEN
//***//
//* INIT   THE ZONE *//
//***//
//STEP0050  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SMPZONE   DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.RESZS3.CSI
//ZPOOL DD   DSN=SYS1.MACLIB(GIMZPOOL),DISP=SHR,
//  UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=RESZP2
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD   *
 REPRO OUTFILE(SMPZONE) INFILE(ZPOOL)
/*
//  ENDIF
//  IF (STEP0010.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0020.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0026.RC LE 4 AND
//  STEP0030.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0040.RC EQ 0 AND
//  STEP0050.RC EQ 0) THEN
//STEP0060  EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6M
//SMPCSIDD   DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.Z19.GLOBAL.CSI
//DD1   DD   DSN=SVS.MIRROR.RESZP2.TO.RESZS3.D090624,DISP=OLD
//SMPLOGDD   DUMMY
//SMPCNTL   DD   *
  SET BOUNDARY(RESZS3) .
  ZONEIMPORT (RESZP2) INFILE(DD1) INTO(RESZS3) 

Re: JCT Not Available

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Not on my 1.9 system. I have to type out x all;find 'failed' all;del
all x  and cancel or I mess up the member. 
Anybody know which cbt file that edit macro is on? 


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Subject: Re: JCT Not Available

'only failed' as an edit command? Where did you get this only
command?
CBT? 

Badly written on my part. it should have been only 'failed', and as
far as I know, this is a normal ISPF command. 

Barbara

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REXX exec: 'only' - was = RE: JCT Not Available

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Well, I found it! Had it all along. Just needed to allocate my rexx lib.
Weird thing, tho, is that mine is exactly like yours BUT it has an IBM
copyright:


/* Sample Edit Macro */
/*/
/*   */
/* 5647-A01 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP 1995, 1999*/
/*   */

Now if it could only eliminate the 

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   21 Line(s) not
Displayed 

lines. I usually 'del all x and then cancel the edit session. Scary. 

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Incidentally, what George just showed is exactly what we're using.

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Re: REXX exec: 'only' - was = RE: JCT Not Available

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Lovely. That's why I love this list.
 


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Subject: Re: REXX exec: 'only' - was = RE: JCT Not Available

Now if it could only eliminate the

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -   21 Line(s) not
Displayed

lines. I usually 'del all x and then cancel the edit session. Scary.

Isn't 'hide excluded' what you are looking for here? Hiding the excluded
lines without deleting them.

Regards,

Erik Janssen.

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Re: question about searching datasets for ip addresses

2009-06-25 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Try this:


//*-+1+2+3+4+5+6+7--
//PROC001   PROC
//SCAN  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=('L SRCHCMP ANYC')
//OUTDD DD   SYSOUT=*   
//NEWDD DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=DSN  
//SYSIN DD   DISP=SHR,DSN=KQKTEMP.$TSO.JCLLIB(SCANPARM) 
//ENDOFIT   PEND
//S0A   EXEC PROC=PROC001,DSN='KQKTEMP.$TSO.JCLLIB' 
//* scanparm looks like this:   
//  
SRCHFOR 'KQKTEMP'



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Subject: Re: question about searching datasets for ip addresses

Does anyone have a technique using ibm utilities or free software, they
would be willing to share, for searching mainframe datasets for certain
ip addresses?

ISPF 3.14 -- SRCHFOR
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

2009-06-24 Thread Klein, Kenneth
OK, after 25 years as a sysprog this should not confuse me, but...
A previous systems programmer left these canned jobs to clone a res pack
to a new one for maintenance purposes. Simple right?
I run the first job, vary off, init, varyon, ipltext, setcache, etc and
then the copy step fails.

PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES
2009.174 15:10 
  COPY  ALLDATA(*)  ALLEXCP  SHARE  TOL(ENQF) READIOP(10) -

DATASET(INCLUDE(**), -

EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.*,SYS1.VVDS.*,SYS1.IODF00)) -

STORCLAS(SCNONSMS),  -

LIDY((RESZP1,3390)), -

ODY((RESZS3,3390))

ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'COPY '

ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2009.174 15:10:38 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL
STATEMENTS COMPLETED
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK

ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2009.174 15:10:38 EXECUTION BEGINS

ADR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET SYS1.NUCLEUS ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
RESZS3  
ADR806I (001)-T0MI (01), DATA SET SYS1.NUCLEUS COPIED USING A FAST
REPLICATION FUNCTION 
ADR709E (001)-VDSS (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT
SUBSYSTEM WHILE ALLOCATING DATA SET OMVS.JAVA64V5. SMS 
 MESSAGES FOLLOW.

 IGD17101I DATA SET OMVS.JAVA64V5

 NOT DEFINED BECAUSE DUPLICATE NAME EXISTS IN CATALOG

 RETURN CODE IS 8 REASON CODE IS 38 IGG0CLEH

ADR809I (001)-VDSS (01), ADDITIONAL DIAGNOSTIC DATA FOR PRECEDING
MESSAGE:  
 SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=

 REQPRI=248856KB  REQSEC=000519TRK
REQVOLS=01   
ADR709E (001)-VDSS (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT
SUBSYSTEM WHILE ALLOCATING DATA SET OMVS.SIGYROOT. SMS 

200-some sys1.* datasets got copied but all the others (250+) failed. 
What am I missing here??



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Re: Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

2009-06-24 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I think Jack is on to something here. I've been here 6 weeks and I am
NOT an sms guru. Could very well be the acs rules. My new peers are
telling me that these cloner jobs have recently (weeks ago) run fine but
only the sys1.* datasets are getting copied. All the ones like these
fail:

 
 AOP.SAOPEXEC
 CBC.SCCNJCL
 CEE.SCEEMSGP
 GLD.SGLDHDRC
 IOA.SIOAIBIN
 ISF.SISFJCL
 ACIF.SAPKMOD1
 AOP.SAOPMENU
 APK.SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB.V2
 ASM.SASMMAC1
 CBC.SCCNCMP
 CDS.SCDSSAMP
 CEE.SAFHFORT
 CIM.SCIMXML
 CMX.SCMXDBRM
 CSF.SCSFCLI0
 EOX.SEPHBOK1
 EOY.SEOXFONT
 EPH.SEPHCLIB
 EPH.SEPHSAMP D
 EUV.SEUVACF
 EUVF.SEUVFEXC
 FFST.V120ESA.SEPWBENU
 GDDM.SADMCDA
 GIM.SGIMCLS0
 GLD.SGLDEXEC
 GSK.SGSKSAMP
 HCM.SEEQINST
 ICQ.ICQABTXT
 IGY.SIGYCLST
 IMW.SIMWSDCK
 IOA.SIOAJAVA
 IOE.SIOEEXEC
 ISF.SISFEXEC
 ISP.SISPALIB
 JAVA.SAJVSMP1
 OMVS.JAVA31V5
 SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM
 SDF2.V1R4M0.SDGICMD
 TCPIP.SEZACMAC
 VSAPL.DZJDMY1

I'm hoping not to have rename all these files with sysname or something
just to get them cataloged. I don't want to catalog them at all... but
then how will they be found when I IPL off the new res pack. I seem to
remember doing some cataloging with volser(**) or was that in the
dddef...

Any help greatly appreciated. Is there any doc on z/os maintenance
cloning best practices?


Ken Klein
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Subject: Re: Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

Sounds like your bypass storage class (STORCLAS(SCNONSMS)) isn't taking
effect (SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=), ie it seems like your omvs dsn are
going sms and that has to be catalogued.
SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=

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Re: Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

2009-06-24 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Good call, Bill. I got the job working with bypassacs. When I notified a
peer sysprog he realized my id was not in the hard coded list of users
that are allowed to tweak the storage class. Upon hearing how easily I
bypassed this restriction, he decided that loophole needed to be closed.


 COPY  ALLDATA(*)  ALLEXCP  SHARE  TOL(ENQF) READIOP(10)-   
   DATASET(INCLUDE(**), -   
   EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.*,SYS1.VVDS.*,SYS1.IODF*))   -   
   REPLACE PROCESS(SYS1)-   
   NULLSTORCLAS,  - 
   BYPASSACS(**)  - 
   LIDY((RESZP2,3390)), -   
   ODY((RESZS3,3390))   

Bill, are you over in Georgetown? 

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Subject: Re: Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

Check your ACS rules to make sure that there is not something that
restricts certain functions, such as bypassing rules, that are limited
to an identified set of user ids? 

If you are new, you may need to add  your TSO Id to such a list.

Thanks

Bill Bishop

Specialist
Mainframe Support Group
Server Development  Support
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I think Jack is on to something here. I've been here 6 weeks and I am
NOT an sms guru. Could very well be the acs rules. My new peers are
telling me that these cloner jobs have recently (weeks ago) run fine but
only the sys1.* datasets are getting copied. All the ones like these
fail:

 
 AOP.SAOPEXEC
 CBC.SCCNJCL
 CEE.SCEEMSGP
 GLD.SGLDHDRC
 IOA.SIOAIBIN
 ISF.SISFJCL
 ACIF.SAPKMOD1
 AOP.SAOPMENU
 APK.SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB.V2
 ASM.SASMMAC1
 CBC.SCCNCMP
 CDS.SCDSSAMP
 CEE.SAFHFORT
 CIM.SCIMXML
 CMX.SCMXDBRM
 CSF.SCSFCLI0
 EOX.SEPHBOK1
 EOY.SEOXFONT
 EPH.SEPHCLIB
 EPH.SEPHSAMP D
 EUV.SEUVACF
 EUVF.SEUVFEXC
 FFST.V120ESA.SEPWBENU
 GDDM.SADMCDA
 GIM.SGIMCLS0
 GLD.SGLDEXEC
 GSK.SGSKSAMP
 HCM.SEEQINST
 ICQ.ICQABTXT
 IGY.SIGYCLST
 IMW.SIMWSDCK
 IOA.SIOAJAVA
 IOE.SIOEEXEC
 ISF.SISFEXEC
 ISP.SISPALIB
 JAVA.SAJVSMP1
 OMVS.JAVA31V5
 SCRIPT.R40.DCFASM
 SDF2.V1R4M0.SDGICMD
 TCPIP.SEZACMAC
 VSAPL.DZJDMY1

I'm hoping not to have rename all these files with sysname or something
just to get them cataloged. I don't want to catalog them at all... but
then how will they be found when I IPL off the new res pack. I seem to
remember doing some cataloging with volser(**) or was that in the
dddef...

Any help greatly appreciated. Is there any doc on z/os maintenance
cloning best practices?


Ken Klein
Sr. Systems Programmer
Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville
kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com
502-495-5000 x7011

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Subject: Re: Veteran sysprog asks dumb question

Sounds like your bypass storage class (STORCLAS(SCNONSMS)) isn't taking
effect (SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=), ie it seems like your omvs dsn are
going sms and that has to be catalogued.
SC=SCDFLT MC=STANDARD DC=

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First time I am running rmf III in this shop

2009-06-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I'm getting this error message when I try to select rmf III from the
main RMF monitor menu.

There's nothing in the log or the output from my tso session. This works
on one of our lpars and fails on the other two. 

TIA

Unable to allocate file ADMGDF. Contact your system administrator. 
*** 


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Subject: Re: What's Needed in Linklst?

As far as IPLing is required, the only required data sets are
SYS1.LINKLIB (and the SYSLIB LINKLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.MIGLIB (and the SYSLIB MIGLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.CSSLIB (and the SYSLIB CSSLIB data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEALNKE (and the SYSLIB LINKLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)
SYS1.SIEAMIGE (and the SYSLIB MIGLIBE data set identified in PROGxx, if
different)

Lack of these data sets will result in a wait state (code 0A with
message IEA716I)..

Basically, it's those data sets that are placed by the system, or
required to be there, in (almost) all circumstances into every LNKLST
set.

All the other data sets that have been shown likely relate to a properly
running system with all the various z/OS elements. So they're likely
necessary in some way but won't result in an IPL-time wait state

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: First time I am running rmf III in this shop

2009-06-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Yes, thanks.
The three lpars share catalogs and once one of the lpars allocates the
dataset, the others enque on it.
I want to put a system symbolic like sysname in the data set names. 

Did you get all done moving down from Wilkesboro? 

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Has RMFGAT been started (F RMF,S III)?

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Ken Klein wrote:

I'm getting this error message when I try to select rmf III from the
main RMF monitor menu.

There's nothing in the log or the output from my tso session. This works
on one of our lpars and fails on the other two. 

TIA

Unable to allocate file ADMGDF. Contact your system administrator. 
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Re: SMS Dataset Allocation Problem

2009-06-23 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Most people are running on VIRTUAL disks anyway. z/os may see a 2105
or a 2107 but in most cases its tiny little brown round and spinning in
RAID 5 on the SAN so it doesn't much matter any more. We used to place
datasets on disks in accordance to their activity level and distance
from the VTOC. To check your work you could open the door, look into the
HDA and watch how much the actuator was bouncing around. 


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: SMS Dataset Allocation Problem

Ted,

It was not DB2 that had a problem. It was CICS and a few batch jobs. I
don't have a problem with multi-volume datasets at all, and in fact I
design SMS to allocate large datasets on as many volumes as possible. It
was simply having so many candidate volumes for every dataset, 1 track
or 1 pack, was excessive and we started having TIOT blow outs. I think
we were using 20 for the unit count when the problem happened.

We ended up using 5 for both VSAM and PS and, let SRS from DTS look
after adding volumes beyond five.

Ron

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 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] SMS Dataset Allocation Problem
 
 TIOT
 
 Set it to the max, and (in general) it won't be an issue.
 And, IIRC, DB2 uses a different type of table for allocation.
 The number of datasets it can allocate is way beyond what the TIOT, in
theory,
 allows for.
 
 (This was about DB2, originally).
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Re: Mainframe Express Software

2009-06-22 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 If you want to learn about MVS you could install a free version on a
PC. Look for mvsj38 or something like that on the cbttape site. Google
should help you find it. 


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Yes,
Please send your full name, IP address, and bank account information.
We will FTP the software to you and also send you one million dollars.



 

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Re: BPXF135E RETURN CODE 00000081, REASON CODE 0594003D. THE MOUNT FAILED FOR FILE SYSTEM SVS.RESZS1.OMVS.ROOT.

2009-06-18 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Uh, d omvs,f? Where would I enter that? 


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MOUNT FAILED FOR FILE SYSTEM SVS.RESZS1.OMVS.ROOT.

Why don't you paste the latest error message, and also paste the output
from a D OMVS,F


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Re: BPXF135E RETURN CODE 00000081, REASON CODE 0594003D. THE MOUNT FAILED FOR FILE SYSTEM SVS.RESZS1.OMVS.ROOT.

2009-06-18 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Great! Good stuff.

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Klein, Kenneth pisze:
  Uh, d omvs,f? Where would I enter that? 

This is MVS command, entered from console.
DISPLAY OMVS,F

You can also enter it from SDSF LOG (with slash /)

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Re: Tape management system discussion

2009-06-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 Avoid any CA product if you can in any way, they charge too much and
offer very poor support.


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Tommy Tsui tommyt...@gmail.com wrote in message
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 Hi all,
 
 Is there any one use the IBM RMM and BMC tape management system? Which

 one is better ?
 Any comment on this two products?
 
 Any comment will be appreciated

Did you intentionally not mention CA-1? 
The oldest, greatest and best?

Kees.
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BPXF135E RETURN CODE 00000081, REASON CODE 0594003D. THE MOUNT FAILED FOR FILE SYSTEM SVS.RESZS1.OMVS.ROOT.

2009-06-17 Thread Klein, Kenneth
 
Anybody ever see this before? 

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