Re: FMID descriptions
Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Sun, 31 May 2009 07:49:12 -0700, Howard Rifkind wrote: Would it be wonderful if IBM could just figure out how to make the FMID's really directly relate the the software product name... Particularly, why not allow FMIDs to be much longer than 7 characters (say about 50 characters) so a meaningful product name could be embedded in the FMID? ROTFL! It's like, like allowing lowercase symbols in JCL! It could be even convenient - which is strictly forbidden in mainframe world! We have to live with SRELs (only historicians knows the root of the name and nobody know the reasons for that), 7-characters FMIDs and many other facilities. Coulldn't resist... -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
That rexx exec does not work for me. Where should it be executed? Option 6? From within the smp dialog? How does it find this table? Anything easier to use out there? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Ken,
Like me, you probably do not have the SMP/E ISPTLIB pre-allocated.
Add a LIBDEF statement before the TBOPEN
'LIBDEF ISPTLIB DATASET ID(''SYS1.GIM.SGIMTENU'')'
and after the TBCLOSE
'LIBDEF ISPTLIB'
Bob
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That rexx exec does not work for me. Where should it be executed?
Option 6?
From within the smp dialog? How does it find this table?
Anything easier to use out there?
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Re: FMID descriptions
There's a hopeful note here. If you're correct in your plausible surmise that Kurt was engaging in (displaced) self-deprecation, it implies he's sensitive to the concern. I am sensitive to the concern. I'd like to provide a REXX interface to GIMAPI, but unfortunately its priority doesn't compare to other work. Next time I'll remember to include a smiley in my response. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Richards, Robert B. wrote: Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS., why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line reports. To me having the values delineated by subentrytype(value) seems a bit easier to parse and pick off the stuff you want. Yes you still have to parse multi-line output. I suppose its six of one, half a dozen of the other. How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line has the room! grin Duly noted. In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method as being accurate? Yes, that is accurate and seems a fine use for your purposes. Although we have no plans right now that would affect the BCNFMDS table, understand of course the usual caveats apply -- it's not a published program interface, so in the future we could change the structure of that table, eliminate it, etc. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Kurt, Caveats understood. In case some are wondering, the reason I am providing this information is to satisfy a request for auditing/security purposes by providing what I like to call pseudo vulnerability scanning reports. We all know that our favorite platform is not very vulnerable when using the Windows platform as the baseline standard for this topic, but I had to come up with something to report on and ERROR SYSMODS seemed to fit the bill. Yeah, I know, it's a stretch, but they seemed to like the idea. :-) I had to provide the English descriptions for the FMIDs and even with them, the intended audience will probably not have a clue as to what they do. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions Richards, Robert B. wrote: Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS., why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line reports. To me having the values delineated by subentrytype(value) seems a bit easier to parse and pick off the stuff you want. Yes you still have to parse multi-line output. I suppose its six of one, half a dozen of the other. How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line has the room! grin Duly noted. In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method as being accurate? Yes, that is accurate and seems a fine use for your purposes. Although we have no plans right now that would affect the BCNFMDS table, understand of course the usual caveats apply -- it's not a published program interface, so in the future we could change the structure of that table, eliminate it, etc. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Would it be wonderful if IBM could just figure out how to make the FMID's really directly relate the the software product name... --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Subject: Re: FMID descriptions To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:25 PM I will checkout the Migration Assistant BIN file, but so far, the BCNFMDS table entries seem to have the most complete English descriptions. And since I now have working code to read those entries, I have a potential solution. My follow-on to Kurt was to ask him if that is an adequate source that is updated continually. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 3:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:54:57 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example, RACF (HRF*). Huh? Given the FMIDs reported by REPORT ERRSYSMODS, I thought Bob was asking for a method to obtain the DESCRIPTION for said FMIDs. Is that not the case? Bob, if not the FMID Descriptions, what exactly are you looking for? An example would be helpful. Sorry, I was referring to the output of LIST PRODUCT (which doesn't show FMIDs) or LIST FEATURE which lumps a bunch of FMIDs into z/OS V1 Base. I hadn't thought of the migration assistant... but I remember Bob mentioning it now and didn't put 2 and 2 together with the ISPF table. So Bob, If you don't want to play with ISPF tables, I think you can parse the output of a migration assistant products applied report fairly easy since there just a single line for each FMID and description and match that to the REPORT ERRORSYSMODS FMID. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Sun, 31 May 2009 07:49:12 -0700, Howard Rifkind wrote: Would it be wonderful if IBM could just figure out how to make the FMID's really directly relate the the software product name... Particularly, why not allow FMIDs to be much longer than 7 characters (say about 50 characters) so a meaningful product name could be embedded in the FMID? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Kurt, Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS., why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line reports. Regardless, thanks for replying and you were correct in your assumption as to what I was looking for. How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line was the room! grin In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method are being accurate? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions ... I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. You could do UNLOAD FUNCTIONS instead of LIST and that output should be much easier to parse. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. Just provides FMID and DESCRIPTION? Nope, nothing that simple exists. What fun would that be? You could of course write a program (a real program, not REXX) that uses GIMAPI to read the zone and extract exactly this info, but I dare say its not for the faint of heart. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Yes, Mark and I did speak offline, but I had to reconsider a portion of
that conversation and Mark was unaware of that. Sorry, Mark.
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:40:07 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari
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This worked for me:
/* REXX */
ADDRESS TSO
ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE
ADDRESS ISPEXEC
TBOPEN BCNFMDS NOWRITE
TBTOP BCNFMDS
DO WHILE RC = 0
TBSKIP BCNFMDS
TBGET BCNFMDS ROWID(I)
SAY FMID FMIDDESC
END
TBCLOSE BCNFMDS
Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he
is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example,
RACF (HRF*).
Mark
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Re: FMID descriptions
Wow, my English was horrible in the previous post. More coffee, please! I meant to say The print line HAS the room and ... AS being accurate. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions Kurt, Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS., why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line reports. Regardless, thanks for replying and you were correct in your assumption as to what I was looking for. How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line was the room! grin In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method are being accurate? Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:14:33 +1000, Shane wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:52 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Grrr. (Bristling at the aura of condescension.) It's an unconscionable oversight that SMP/E elected to design GIMAPI in a Rexx-hostile style. I'd be prepared to cut Kurt some slack, and trust his answer was composed with a modicum of levity rather than condescension. Much as we continually call for APIs for general usage, this particular one I found a mongrel to use. As I'm sure a I've said before. Point taken. I let my frustration at absence of Rexx support blunt my sense of humor. There's a hopeful note here. If you're correct in your plausible surmise that Kurt was engaging in (displaced) self-deprecation, it implies he's sensitive to the concern. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:54:57 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example, RACF (HRF*). Huh? Given the FMIDs reported by REPORT ERRSYSMODS, I thought Bob was asking for a method to obtain the DESCRIPTION for said FMIDs. Is that not the case? Bob, if not the FMID Descriptions, what exactly are you looking for? An example would be helpful. Sorry, I was referring to the output of LIST PRODUCT (which doesn't show FMIDs) or LIST FEATURE which lumps a bunch of FMIDs into z/OS V1 Base. I hadn't thought of the migration assistant... but I remember Bob mentioning it now and didn't put 2 and 2 together with the ISPF table. So Bob, If you don't want to play with ISPF tables, I think you can parse the output of a migration assistant products applied report fairly easy since there just a single line for each FMID and description and match that to the REPORT ERRORSYSMODS FMID. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
I will checkout the Migration Assistant BIN file, but so far, the BCNFMDS table entries seem to have the most complete English descriptions. And since I now have working code to read those entries, I have a potential solution. My follow-on to Kurt was to ask him if that is an adequate source that is updated continually. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 3:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:54:57 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example, RACF (HRF*). Huh? Given the FMIDs reported by REPORT ERRSYSMODS, I thought Bob was asking for a method to obtain the DESCRIPTION for said FMIDs. Is that not the case? Bob, if not the FMID Descriptions, what exactly are you looking for? An example would be helpful. Sorry, I was referring to the output of LIST PRODUCT (which doesn't show FMIDs) or LIST FEATURE which lumps a bunch of FMIDs into z/OS V1 Base. I hadn't thought of the migration assistant... but I remember Bob mentioning it now and didn't put 2 and 2 together with the ISPF table. So Bob, If you don't want to play with ISPF tables, I think you can parse the output of a migration assistant products applied report fairly easy since there just a single line for each FMID and description and match that to the REPORT ERRORSYSMODS FMID. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Wow, the replies to my query were overwhelming! Perhaps I should change the subject line to Book on Poughkeepsie! grin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FMID descriptions Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something that would be automatically updated based on my product set. Other suggestions are also welcome! :-) Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Wow, the replies to my query were overwhelming! Perhaps I should change the subject line to Book on Poughkeepsie! Nobody is required to respond; we're all volunteers. Maybe nobody has the answer, or they are busy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Hi Seems to me as standard ISPF table, and the KEY is the FMID. You can get the row's via TBGET Richards, Robert B. wrote: Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something that would be automatically updated based on my product set. Other suggestions are also welcome! :-) Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not know that after all my years on this list? Lighten up! Can't you spot a tongue-in-cheek post when you see one? Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions Wow, the replies to my query were overwhelming! Perhaps I should change the subject line to Book on Poughkeepsie! Nobody is required to respond; we're all volunteers. Maybe nobody has the answer, or they are busy. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
This worked for me:
/* REXX */
ADDRESS TSO
ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE
ADDRESS ISPEXEC
TBOPEN BCNFMDS NOWRITE
TBTOP BCNFMDS
DO WHILE RC = 0
TBSKIP BCNFMDS
TBGET BCNFMDS ROWID(I)
SAY FMID FMIDDESC
END
TBCLOSE BCNFMDS
Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table
entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in
question?
I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS
Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et
al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of
those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes.
Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run
some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked
in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info
from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something
that would be automatically updated based on my product set.
Other suggestions are also welcome! :-)
Bob
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Re: FMID descriptions
Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not know that after all my years on this list? Lighten up! Can't you spot a tongue-in-cheek post when you see one? And, when I said maybe nobody knows, how serious was I. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Okay. Point taken. Truce! TGIF! :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not know that after all my years on this list? Lighten up! Can't you spot a tongue-in-cheek post when you see one? And, when I said maybe nobody knows, how serious was I. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Thank you, Miklos. I appreciate your response.
Bob
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This worked for me:
/* REXX */
ADDRESS TSO
ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE
ADDRESS ISPEXEC
TBOPEN BCNFMDS NOWRITE
TBTOP BCNFMDS
DO WHILE RC = 0
TBSKIP BCNFMDS
TBGET BCNFMDS ROWID(I)
SAY FMID FMIDDESC
END
TBCLOSE BCNFMDS
Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table
entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in
question?
I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS
Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01,
et
al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of
those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes.
Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run
some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I
looked
in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this
info
from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something
that would be automatically updated based on my product set.
Other suggestions are also welcome! :-)
Bob
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Re: FMID descriptions
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Re: FMID descriptions
2009/5/28 Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something that would be automatically updated based on my product set. Other suggestions are also welcome! :-) It looks like a set of ordinary ISPF tables... I mean, you can go into Dialog Test, browse the table, and find entries by FMID Display row Table BCNFMDS row 4 Row found Command === Scroll === CSR Variable T A Value FMID K EDU1H01 FMIDDESC N ICKDSF - Device Support Facili FMWRK1 N so presumably you can call the ISPF table services from REXX to do the same. Just TBOPEN and TBGET, I think. But perhaps this part is obvious, and I'm not understanding the real point of your question. Do you need to do this without having access to ISPF services? In that case, you could prepopulate a dataset in some format of your own choosing from the ISPF tables, and then scan it directly in REXX. The IBM PMA download at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/pma/bcnitenu.bin has the whole thing (30+ MB) already in the ISPF table format, but you could even download and parse that on the fly if you need extreme currency, I suppose. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Tony, I'll definitely look into that web link. In the meantime, thanks to Miklos and especially to Bob Rutledge, I have a working solution that I can modify to suit my own purposes. Now, I wonder if Kurt will chime in? grin Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions 2009/5/28 Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something that would be automatically updated based on my product set. Other suggestions are also welcome! :-) It looks like a set of ordinary ISPF tables... I mean, you can go into Dialog Test, browse the table, and find entries by FMID Display row Table BCNFMDS row 4 Row found Command === Scroll === CSR Variable T A Value FMID K EDU1H01 FMIDDESC N ICKDSF - Device Support Facili FMWRK1 N so presumably you can call the ISPF table services from REXX to do the same. Just TBOPEN and TBGET, I think. But perhaps this part is obvious, and I'm not understanding the real point of your question. Do you need to do this without having access to ISPF services? In that case, you could prepopulate a dataset in some format of your own choosing from the ISPF tables, and then scan it directly in REXX. The IBM PMA download at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/pma/bcnitenu.bin has the whole thing (30+ MB) already in the ISPF table format, but you could even download and parse that on the fly if you need extreme currency, I suppose. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:40:07 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari
miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote:
This worked for me:
/* REXX */
ADDRESS TSO
ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE
ADDRESS ISPEXEC
TBOPEN BCNFMDS NOWRITE
TBTOP BCNFMDS
DO WHILE RC = 0
TBSKIP BCNFMDS
TBGET BCNFMDS ROWID(I)
SAY FMID FMIDDESC
END
TBCLOSE BCNFMDS
Richards, Robert B. wrote:
Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he
is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example,
RACF (HRF*).
Mark
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Re: FMID descriptions
... I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. You could do UNLOAD FUNCTIONS instead of LIST and that output should be much easier to parse. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run some report that just provides these two pieces of information. Just provides FMID and DESCRIPTION? Nope, nothing that simple exists. What fun would that be? You could of course write a program (a real program, not REXX) that uses GIMAPI to read the zone and extract exactly this info, but I dare say its not for the faint of heart. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
Mark Zelden wrote: Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example, RACF (HRF*). Huh? Given the FMIDs reported by REPORT ERRSYSMODS, I thought Bob was asking for a method to obtain the DESCRIPTION for said FMIDs. Is that not the case? Bob, if not the FMID Descriptions, what exactly are you looking for? An example would be helpful. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:43:25 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Just provides FMID and DESCRIPTION? Nope, nothing that simple exists. What fun would that be? You could of course write a program (a real program, not REXX) that uses GIMAPI to read the zone and extract exactly this info, but I dare say its not for the faint of heart. Grrr. (Bristling at the aura of condescension.) It's an unconscionable oversight that SMP/E elected to design GIMAPI in a Rexx-hostile style. For an example of how an API can be designed to be Rexx-friendly, study the API to ICSF; example in SAMPLIB. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FMID descriptions
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:52 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Grrr. (Bristling at the aura of condescension.) It's an unconscionable oversight that SMP/E elected to design GIMAPI in a Rexx-hostile style. I'd be prepared to cut Kurt some slack, and trust his answer was composed with a modicum of levity rather than condescension. Much as we continually call for APIs for general usage, this particular one I found a mongrel to use. As I'm sure a I've said before. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
