Re: LPAR MOBILITY

2015-06-01 Thread Clark Morris
On 31 May 2015 10:05:29 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

In 0912959236903597.wa.wwwdieuyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/28/2015
   at 04:22 AM, IBMZOS
00af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

thought Z was at the top of technology.

Z is missing things that IBM developeds on S/360 and S/370. The
cobbler's son is barefoot.
 
What things?  Are there replacements?

Clark Morris

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New CSS in HCD

2015-06-01 Thread R.S.

I need few more LPARs.
Due to limits I want to create new LPARs in new CSS1. As far as now only 
CSS0 contains defined LPARs.


I wonder how to do it to save unnecessary work.
When you create another LPAR within CSS, you simply provide name and 
update channel access lists.

For new CSS the list of CHPIDs is empty, which means a lot of definitions.
Another approach is to copy whole CSS0 to CSS1. Actually I have to 
delete dummy CSS1 before the copy. However after that I have whole 
list of channel definitions, but with not PCHID assigned. It's not big 
work to fill the PCHID fields, but maybe there are simpler methods?


Any clue?

(Details: EC12, only OSA and FICON channels - that means can be defined 
as SPAN).


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Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:22:12 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)  wrote:

 The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load
module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load
module or program object when they are within the SYSMOD.

That would be a good trick. I might believe a GIMZIP compressed
version.
 
This good trick is routinely accomplished by IEBCOPY and GIMDTS.

(But immediately precede doesn't apply wnen the SYSMOD is in
RELFILE format, possibly GIMZIP compressed.)

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Re: List of all on-line volumes

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In col125-w282ae909a6316e1825123fa3...@phx.gbl, on 05/29/2015
   at 10:24 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said:

I'd rather be the victim of a bugler any day than that of a serial
killer.  

ObHowIHateToGetUpInTheMorning

   And then I'll kill that other pup,
   the one that wakes the bugler up, 
   and spend the rest of my life in bed (CP?)
 
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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-01 Thread Steve Coalbran
It seemed to work without error with NOW on the SEND but changing that to 
NOWADAYS...

SEND 'MESSAGE' USER(FOO) NOWADAYS 
INVALID KEYWORD, NOWADAYS 
SEND RETURNED CC 92 

(typo '7' removed)
/Steve




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In 555fe63d.3010...@acm.org, on 05/22/2015
   at 09:30 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:

But from APPENDIX A in TSO/E Customization, any command invoked 
directly from the TMP that returns a non-0 return code causes the 
TMP to end.

If true, then 10.2  Writing error routines in the CLIST manual is in
error, Has anybody tried

 ERROR +
DO
   WRITE SEND retu7rned cc LASTCC
   RETURN 
END
 SEND 'message' USER(FOO) NOW

where the SEND gets a nonzero RC? 
 
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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Go back to SYSLOG where the /CSQ1 STOP was issued.  Then look for messages that 
might indicate an issue with the command

According the message CSQY004I:  The STOP QMGR command has not been 
accepted either because the queue manager shutdown is in progress for the 
specified option (QUIESCE or FORCE), or because the QUIESCE option was 
specified after a FORCE option had been accepted previously. Message CSQ9023E 
is issued after this message.

Check to see what else was going on at the time the STOP command was issued.

If you did not know, there is an MQ List that you might wish to join.  Go here 
to join:
MQ  https://listserv.meduniwien.ac.at/archives/mqser-l.html 
 

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of zos reader
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:10 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
 Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
 
 RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY
 STOPPING
  RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR' ABNORMAL
 COMPLETION
 
 Thanks
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
 wrote:
 
  Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR
 
 
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 m...@listserv.ua.edu]
  On Behalf Of zos reader
  Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:52 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running STC
  and i couldn't bring them down.
 
  I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed in
  Test system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying
  bring down and i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.
 
   CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
 
  Kindly guide me.
 
  Samat
 

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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread zos reader
Thanks Kolusu, it worked and i have brought down the MQ QMGR

Regards,
Samat

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 May be you need Mode FORCE

 Example : STOP QMGR MODE(FORCE)

 And this article might give more insights.


 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/zos_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en

 Thanks,
 Kolusu

 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
 06/01/2015 08:10:18 AM:

  From: zos reader zos.rea...@gmail.com
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Date: 06/01/2015 08:11 AM
  Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
  Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
  Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
 
  RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY STOPPING
   RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR' ABNORMAL
 COMPLETION
 
  Thanks
 
  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
  wrote:
 
   Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
   Behalf Of zos reader
   Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:52 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down
  
   Hi All,
  
   I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running STC
 and i
   couldn't bring them down.
  
   I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed in
 Test
   system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying bring
 down and
   i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.
  
CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
 CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
  
   Kindly guide me.
  
   Samat
  
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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would recommend NOT using FORCE until you know the reason the qmgr is not 
coming down.  You may damage something you do not want to damage.

In my opinion, always determine the cause before applying a hammer.  It maybe 
that it is the right solution, but you need to make sure it is.

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of zos reader
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:27 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
 Thanks Kolusu, it worked and i have brought down the MQ QMGR
 
 Regards,
 Samat
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
  May be you need Mode FORCE
 
  Example : STOP QMGR MODE(FORCE)
 
  And this article might give more insights.
 
 
 
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entr
 y/zo
  s_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en
 
  Thanks,
  Kolusu
 
  IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
  06/01/2015 08:10:18 AM:
 
   From: zos reader zos.rea...@gmail.com
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Date: 06/01/2015 08:11 AM
   Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
   Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  
   Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
  
   RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY
 STOPPING
RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR'
 ABNORMAL
  COMPLETION
  
   Thanks
  
   On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick
   patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
   wrote:
  
Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR
   
   
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On
Behalf Of zos reader
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down
   
Hi All,
   
I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running
STC
  and i
couldn't bring them down.
   
I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed
in
  Test
system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying bring
  down and
i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.
   
 CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
  CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
   
Kindly guide me.
   
Samat
   

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:02:57 -0500, John McKown wrote:

​I wish that I knew what the interface is between zOSMF and ISPF. If I did,
I could look at perverting it in such as way as to get an ISPF session
running from a UNIX shell prompt. drool/
 
I have done this, but only for non-interactive.  It involves Rexx address TSO;
a bunch of allocations, some to temp DSNs to avoid ENQ entanglements.  I
use it to exploit LMF services to update a PDS member while another user
may ENQ SYSDSN SHR.

But non-interactive.  And I wish cp(1) were so clever.  C RTL issue?

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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread zos reader
Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down

RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY STOPPING
 RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR' ABNORMAL COMPLETION

Thanks

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
wrote:

 Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR


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 Behalf Of zos reader
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:52 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down

 Hi All,

 I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running STC and i
 couldn't bring them down.

 I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed in Test
 system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying bring down and
 i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.

  CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
   CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9

 Kindly guide me.

 Samat

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Re: CA-7 question

2015-06-01 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Entry mode in these cases we're refering to are SSCN and DEMD.
REQ is the queue name, not an entry mode.
Jobs also can be demanded with triggers or maybe on hold, in which cases
they might not start to run right away.​
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2015-05-31 21:54 GMT-03:00 Rajesh Kumar herowith.z...@gmail.com:

 if jobs are demand , you can see entry mode of job isDEMD .. not
 REQ ; Also if job is demand to ca7 it will not waiting for time or date
  request , it will immediately start running.

 On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Lucas Rosalen rosalen.lu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Are you sure the other jobs are being added by SSCN? Maybe they have/had
  been demanded?
 
  Lucas
  On May 31, 2015 11:19 PM, Rajesh Kumar herowith.z...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi Tony,
  
   I could see span value is *SPAN = 120  and  INCREMENT = 60 from sscan*
 ;
   Span=120 is 2 hrs yearly,  (span value must be less than increment)
  
  
SPAN=- CHANGES NUMBER OF HOURS SCHEDULE SCAN IS TO LOOK
   FORWARD, DURING EACH WAKE-UP, FOR JOBS THAT MUST
   BE ADDED TO THE QUEUES. VALUE MUST BE A NUMBER OF
   HOURS FROM 1 TO 24. SPAN VALUE MUST NOT BE LESS
   THAN THE INCR VALUE.
  
  
   Hope now you understood yearly showing of job now
  
   Regards,
   Rajesh
  
   On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com
 wrote:
  
I was hoping someone was watching the list today that could help me
 get
over the hump on this one.
   
I know there is some pattern, but it's just not clicking. Some jobs
  seem
to jump in several hours early, while other jump in only 30 minutes
   before
their time.
   
Tony Thigpen
   
   
Lizette Koehler wrote on 05/31/2015 04:06 PM:
   
I might recommend that, if you have not done so, join the CA
 Community
for CA7.  Or open a case with CA.  You may get a much faster
 response.
   
Lizette
   
   
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Subject: CA-7 question
   
I am trying to better understand why jobs show up in the REQ when
 the
show up.
For example, I have a job with the following:
ID=003   ROLL=D  INDEX=+000
SCAL=DOTM=1640  LEADTM=0010  SUBTM=1630  STARTM=1630
   WEEKLYDAY=SUN
   
And it already in the queue two hours early:
   LQ,SEQ=JOB
XXX REQ 0823 151/1630 151/1630 151/1640  ALL- 003 SSCN  001
SLIF-00 REQUEST COMPLETED AT 14:44:59 ON 15.151
   
Yet, other jobs don't seem to appear until almost the time they
 need
  to
run. I
think it has to do with the SSCAN values, but nothing seems to be
   making
sense at this point:
SSCAN
  CURRENT SCHEDULE SCAN VALUES
  
  SPAN = 120 INCREMENT = 60
  QUEUE DWELL = 30  SKELETON RETRY = 0
  REPROMPT= 10
  LEAD TIME   = 0
  STATUS:   REQQ IS ACTIVE  ABR MSGS  = NO
RDYQ IS ACTIVE  HOLD JOBS = NO
  NEXT SCAN WAKE-UP = 15151 AT 1517
NEXT SCAN PERIOD START TIME = 15151 AT 1647
   
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Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING

2015-06-01 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi Lizette,

We want to have the documentation as helpful as possible.  It would certainly 
be reasonable for you to open a Request for Publication Change to add 
information in the HSM SA to indicate that the DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data 
has additional information available regarding using wild cards when a user is 
recalling data.

Thanks, 
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Re: Notify for XMIT

2015-06-01 Thread Joel Ewing
You didn't say but from your results you apparently tested from within
an interactive TSO session, which runs IKJEFT01.  Now to complete the
test try invoking your invalid-keyword version of the CLIST  from the
SYSTSIN  SYSIN file in a Batch TSO job step where the JCL EXEC statement
invokes PGM=IKJEFT1A, with a SYSPROC DD pointing to your CLIST library,
and see what you get written to the SYSTSPRT SYSOUT file. I would be
willing to bet the SEND RETURNED CC 92 does not appear in the batch
TSO test because the WRITE is never reached.

The whole point is that CLISTs under TSO/E behave (as documented)
somewhat differently in a batch IKJEFT1A/IKJEFT1B environment versus an
interactive TSO session.  This is what makes the adding of new cases
where SEND might return a non-zero RC a potential issue for CLISTs that
use SEND within batch TSO job steps.
JC Ewing

On 06/01/2015 03:00 AM, Steve Coalbran wrote:
 It seemed to work without error with NOW on the SEND but changing that to 
 NOWADAYS...
 
 SEND 'MESSAGE' USER(FOO) NOWADAYS 
 INVALID KEYWORD, NOWADAYS 
 SEND RETURNED CC 92 
 
 (typo '7' removed)
 /Steve
 
 
 
 
 From:   Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date:   2015-05-31 19:55
 Subject:Re: Notify for XMIT
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 In 555fe63d.3010...@acm.org, on 05/22/2015
at 09:30 PM, Joel Ewing jcew...@acm.org said:
 
 But from APPENDIX A in TSO/E Customization, any command invoked 
 directly from the TMP that returns a non-0 return code causes the 
 TMP to end.
 
 If true, then 10.2  Writing error routines in the CLIST manual is in
 error, Has anybody tried
 
  ERROR +
 DO
WRITE SEND retu7rned cc LASTCC
RETURN 
 END
  SEND 'message' USER(FOO) NOW
 
 where the SEND gets a nonzero RC? 
  
 


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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread Sri h Kolusu
May be you need Mode FORCE 

Example : STOP QMGR MODE(FORCE) 

And this article might give more insights.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/zos_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 
06/01/2015 08:10:18 AM:

 From: zos reader zos.rea...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 06/01/2015 08:11 AM
 Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
 
 RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY STOPPING
  RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR' ABNORMAL 
COMPLETION
 
 Thanks
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
 wrote:
 
  Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR
 
 
  -Original Message-
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On
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  Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running STC 
and i
  couldn't bring them down.
 
  I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed in 
Test
  system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying bring 
down and
  i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.
 
   CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
 
  Kindly guide me.
 
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Re: MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
This is a good article on stopping/starting MQ
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/zos_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en

Lizette


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 Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
 I would recommend NOT using FORCE until you know the reason the qmgr is
 not coming down.  You may damage something you do not want to damage.
 
 In my opinion, always determine the cause before applying a hammer.  It
 maybe that it is the right solution, but you need to make sure it is.
 
 Lizette
 
 
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  Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down
 
  Thanks Kolusu, it worked and i have brought down the MQ QMGR
 
  Regards,
  Samat
 
  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:
 
   May be you need Mode FORCE
  
   Example : STOP QMGR MODE(FORCE)
  
   And this article might give more insights.
  
  
  
 
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entr
  y/zo
   s_websphere_mq_what_goes_up_must_come_down?lang=en
  
   Thanks,
   Kolusu
  
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   06/01/2015 08:10:18 AM:
  
From: zos reader zos.rea...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 06/01/2015 08:11 AM
Subject: Re: MQ QMGR bringing down Sent by: IBM Mainframe
Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   
Yes, tried it and still i couldn't bring down
   
RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQY004I /CSQ1 QUEUE MANAGER IS ALREADY
  STOPPING
 RESPONSE=SYS9  CSQ9023E /CSQ1 CSQYSCMD 'STOP QMGR'
  ABNORMAL
   COMPLETION
   
Thanks
   
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mullen, Patrick
patrick.mul...@gwl.ca
wrote:
   
 Try /CSQ1 STOP QMGR


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 Subject: MQ QMGR bringing down

 Hi All,

 I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running
 STC
   and i
 couldn't bring them down.

 I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work I have installed
 in
   Test
 system and brought up and all looks good and now i am trying
 bring
   down and
 i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.

  CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
   CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9

 Kindly guide me.

 Samat

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Thomas Conley

On 6/1/2015 9:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:


An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.


Incorrect.  ISPF supports multiple user sessions as of z/OS V2R1.
However, the only 'sploiter Luthy, is z/OSMF.


How do I get past the

  IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS

... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an additional
ISPF session?

The term only [ex]ploiter implies severe limitations.

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Gil,

You need to bit...er, raise this issue with TSO.  Don't be dogging ISPF. 
 The function is there, it's up to the various other components to 
support it.


Regards,
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Re: Cache Fast Write (CFW) - Data in the CFW is *not* mirrored, is it?

2015-06-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
Where's Ron when we need him ?.

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote:

​_You_ cannot because, IIRC, you are not a sysprog who can install exits.
Either the IKJEFLD or IKJEFLD1 exit ​can be used to set the Don't ENQ bit
in the control switches. Normally, TSO does a ENQ on your RACF id as a
resource name and a queue name of SYSIKJUA. This is what is used by TSO to
prevent multiple logons to the same ID. In my shop, I have an RNL which
changes this ENQ from a SYSTEMS (sysplex wide) ENQ to a SYSTEM (individual
image) ENQ __for specific RACF ids__. 

Thanks for clarifying Paul's question. I got sidetracked somehow while 
answering Paul and Thomas posts.

This statement below will allow you many sessions in SysPlex, but ONE session 
per LPAR with a RACF id.

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSIKJUA) RNAME(id or wildcard) 

You will have to review your temp dsn naming standards.

...  this ENQ was a fast patch which never was addressed. 

Still not addressed AFAIK.

Groete / Greetings
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MQ QMGR bringing down

2015-06-01 Thread zos reader
Hi All,

I am trying to bring down the MQ QMGR and below are the running STC and i
couldn't bring them down.

I issued /CSQ1 STOP CSQMSTR and it doesn't work
I have installed in Test system and brought up and all looks good and now i
am trying bring down and i have brought down the CSQ1CHIN stc.

 CSQ1MSTR STC04693 CSQ1MSTR   15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9
  CSQ1BTMN STC04714 CSQ1BTM15 EXECUTION  SYS9  SYS9

Kindly guide me.

Samat

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Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-01 Thread Haselbach, Markus
Thanks a lot for all this valuable information - I'm going to investigate the 
solution that Peter proposed...  
We have PSF 4.4.0  with z/OS 2.1  and are writing the exits in assembler.

Kind regards
Markus Haselbach


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Subject: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

Long time ago (MVS/ESA 3.x in the late 80ies), I wrote JES2 and PSF exits 
to provide (part of) the accounting information as well as some other stuff to 
PSF. It was a combination of JES Exits 3 and 23, as well as PSF exits 1 and 2. 
At that time, I did not want to take the burden to extend any JES2 control 
blokc held on the spool, and since it was sufficient, I used some user fields 
in the JCT so save acoounting information in JES2 exit 3. 
Later, JES2 exit 23 aquired some storage (getmain) to store this data for PSF 
exits 1 and 2. PSF exit 2 (job end) was in charge of releasing the storage 
after use. 

This is from a quick refresh of my memory. Note also that I have not verified 
if there is an easier way nowadays.

I'll send you some code snippets offlist.

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 Von: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com An:   
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: JES2 Exit 23 Datum: 31.05.15 07:49

 
I have not found any definitive info on how to extract the Accounting 
information on a JOB producing output and getting it to the APSUX01/APSUX01P  
exit. 
 
You might want to contact IBM directly via an SR for assistance.   
 
What version of PSF are you running?  Are you using Assembler or C Language? 
Have you looked at the IEFJESCT to see what is available in the JES2 
Communications Area? 
 
Lizette 
 
 
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 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler 
 Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:28 AM 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
 Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 23 
  
 If you are not aware, there is also a JES2 List that might be helpful as 
 well. 
 IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. 
  
 To join JES2 - use this URL 
 JES2  http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jes2-l 
  
 Have you looked at the JES2 EXITS manual?  SA22-7534-13   z/OS JES2 
 Installation Exits 
  
 Lizette 
  
  
  
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  Subject: JES2 Exit 23 
  
  Hallo, 
  I?m for the first time involved with JES2 exits.  The issue is 
  printing with PSF. I have to write accounting information from the Job 
  Card on the Job Header Page. This will be done in PSF Header Exit 
  APSUX01. The question is how to get the information there. I would 
  like to pass the accounting field  by putting it in the  JSPA in JES2 
  Exit 23  HASX23A. Can somebody give me a hint, how to get the Jobcard in 
 HASX23A, or an other solution? 
  Best regards 
  Markus Haselbach 
  Credit-Suisse AG 
  
 
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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:

 An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
 A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
 ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.

Incorrect.  ISPF supports multiple user sessions as of z/OS V2R1.
However, the only 'sploiter Luthy, is z/OSMF.
 
How do I get past the

 IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS

... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an additional
ISPF session?

The term only [ex]ploiter implies severe limitations.

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Thomas Conley

On 6/1/2015 9:45 AM, John McKown wrote:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:


On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:


An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.


Incorrect.  ISPF supports multiple user sessions as of z/OS V2R1.
However, the only 'sploiter Luthy, is z/OSMF.


How do I get past the

  IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS

... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an
additional
ISPF session?

The term only [ex]ploiter implies severe limitations.



​_You_ cannot because, IIRC, you are not a sysprog who can install exits.
Either the IKJEFLD or IKJEFLD1 exit ​can be used to set the Don't ENQ bit
in the control switches. Normally, TSO does a ENQ on your RACF id as a
resource name and a queue name of SYSIKJUA. This is what is used by TSO to
prevent multiple logons to the same ID. In my shop, I have an RNL which
changes this ENQ from a SYSTEMS (sysplex wide) ENQ to a SYSTEM (individual
image) ENQ __for specific RACF ids__. Basically what this does is allow
Production Control and Tech Services, but no one else, to log on to each
system image in the sysplex concurrently.

What just occurred to me is that an APF authorized program (either batch or
TSO, whichever) could be coded so that _authorized_ people could run it and
have it release the ENQ issued by TSO so that they could logon on for a
second time. Of course, this may cause the LOGOFF processor to abend if it
tried to do an unconditional DEQ of the user id. There were previous posts,
years ago, about why the IBM TSO people did this. IIRC, it was mainly due
to some serious serialization problems and this ENQ was a fast patch which
never was addressed. Mainly because many view TSO as a resource hog any
way. Especially back in MVT days.

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4b4a0/3.3.11.6.1





John,

Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the 
same LPAR.  TSO currently doesn't support that natively, it's only 
supported in z/OSMF.


I'm surprised that you limit multiple concurrent logons in the sysplex 
to just a handful of id's.  I'm curious why you don't take advantage of 
shared profiles for your entire ISPF community.  I've done a lot of work 
on this subject, so it's near and dear to my heart.  You can find the 
gory details here http://tinyurl.com/prnmh48.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
​snip

 John,

 Good points all, but Gil wants to have multiple ISPF sessions on the same
 LPAR.  TSO currently doesn't support that natively, it's only supported in
 z/OSMF.

 I'm surprised that you limit multiple concurrent logons in the sysplex to
 just a handful of id's.  I'm curious why you don't take advantage of shared
 profiles for your entire ISPF community.  I've done a lot of work on this
 subject, so it's near and dear to my heart.  You can find the gory details
 here http://tinyurl.com/prnmh48.


​There's no reason, it's just policy.. Basically, we just to just have a
single image. The programmers were complaining that they couldn't get
anything done because production kept using up all of the CPU. I was not
allowed to address this using WLM. I tried. So, to shut them up, we split
the test and model office into a separate system image, but in the same
sysplex so that we could easily share things. However, IMO, we punished
the programmers by telling them that they could only be on one image at a
time. And that they could only use CA-Endevor on the test image. IOW
politics.​




 Regards,
 Tom Conley



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Re: SMPE MCS construction question re aliases

2015-06-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

 The ++PROGRAM MCS describes a program element (a pre-built load
module or a program object). It must immediately precede the load
module or program object when they are within the SYSMOD.


That would be a good trick. I might believe a GIMZIP compressed
version.


Its no trick.  GIMDTS is your friend here.

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Cache Fast Write (CFW) - Data in the CFW is *not* mirrored, is it?

2015-06-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler
My GDPS mate asked us to make sure that cache fast write (CFW) on out (PPRC) 
mirrored boxes is disabled because it is not compatible with HyperSwap. This 
statement presumes that data in the CFW is not mirrored, is it?



Up to now, I got somewhat inconsistent informtion about CFW in current DASD 
subsystems. Trying to get a clear view with the help of specialist here on the 
list.


I understand that CFW can be switched on/off via IDCAMS. While this can be 
protected via RACF, this is not bullet proof. Some software (DFSort?) might 
write its own channel programm to set the switch.


I therefore asked our DASD provider if CFW can be permanently disabled on the 
box. Got a Yes, but nobody does it


Talking to someone else, I was told that modern DASD subsystems always use CFW; 
the user has no influence in this (??)


Finally I haven't been able to figure out whether data in the CFW cache is 
mirrored *before* of *after* the data has been hardened to the platter.


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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:34:04 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:

 An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
 A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
 ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.

   IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS

You need to bit...er, raise this issue with TSO.  Don't be dogging ISPF.
  The function is there, it's up to the various other components to
support it.

As the end user, I care little about the technical details of the blockage; only
that the facility is unavailable.

And I might reverse the analysis and fault ISPF for relying on an inadequate
service.  An alternative approach might be to liberate ISPF from dependency
on TSO.  That might politically be the more practical approach, given that
TSO appears to be functionally stabilized while ISPF is actively maintained
and enhanced.

I can easily start multiple UNIX System Services sessions until I grow tired,
with no need for administrative gyrations such as John M. discusses.  Why
shouldn't TSO/ISPF be raised to that level of quality?

-- gil

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thomas Conley wrote:

 How do I get past the
   IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS
 ... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an 
 additional ISPF session?

Same or other terminal?

You need to bit...er, raise this issue with TSO.  Don't be dogging ISPF. The 
function is there, it's up to the various other components to support it.

What components in VTAM, LogMode, TSO, etc.?

It is really a long time ago I had to do that work... but Session Manager is 
making things easier.

All I can remember without RTFM or looking in TSOKEYxx/ATCCONxx are these 
keywords RECONLIM and USERMAX.

Just curious of course.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 31 May 2015 19:03:23 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:
 
  An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
  A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
  ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.
 
 Incorrect.  ISPF supports multiple user sessions as of z/OS V2R1.
 However, the only 'sploiter Luthy, is z/OSMF.
 
 How do I get past the

  IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system MVS

 ... in order to start an additional TSO session in order to start an
 additional
 ISPF session?

 The term only [ex]ploiter implies severe limitations.


​_You_ cannot because, IIRC, you are not a sysprog who can install exits.
Either the IKJEFLD or IKJEFLD1 exit ​can be used to set the Don't ENQ bit
in the control switches. Normally, TSO does a ENQ on your RACF id as a
resource name and a queue name of SYSIKJUA. This is what is used by TSO to
prevent multiple logons to the same ID. In my shop, I have an RNL which
changes this ENQ from a SYSTEMS (sysplex wide) ENQ to a SYSTEM (individual
image) ENQ __for specific RACF ids__. Basically what this does is allow
Production Control and Tech Services, but no one else, to log on to each
system image in the sysplex concurrently.

What just occurred to me is that an APF authorized program (either batch or
TSO, whichever) could be coded so that _authorized_ people could run it and
have it release the ENQ issued by TSO so that they could logon on for a
second time. Of course, this may cause the LOGOFF processor to abend if it
tried to do an unconditional DEQ of the user id. There were previous posts,
years ago, about why the IBM TSO people did this. IIRC, it was mainly due
to some serious serialization problems and this ENQ was a fast patch which
never was addressed. Mainly because many view TSO as a resource hog any
way. Especially back in MVT days.

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4b4a0/3.3.11.6.1




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Re: Question on 3270 Devices

2015-06-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:34:04 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote:
 
  An example of how IBM hardware design outpaces its software design.
  A couple decades after an IBM terminal supported multiple sessions,
  ISPF doesn't support a user's having multiple sessions.
 
IKJ56425I LOGON rejected, UserId USER already logged on to system
 MVS
 
 You need to bit...er, raise this issue with TSO.  Don't be dogging ISPF.
   The function is there, it's up to the various other components to
 support it.
 
 As the end user, I care little about the technical details of the
 blockage; only
 that the facility is unavailable.

 And I might reverse the analysis and fault ISPF for relying on an
 inadequate
 service.  An alternative approach might be to liberate ISPF from dependency
 on TSO.  That might politically be the more practical approach, given that
 TSO appears to be functionally stabilized while ISPF is actively maintained
 and enhanced.

 I can easily start multiple UNIX System Services sessions until I grow
 tired,
 with no need for administrative gyrations such as John M. discusses.  Why
 shouldn't TSO/ISPF be raised to that level of quality?


​I wish that I knew what the interface is between zOSMF and ISPF. If I did,
I could look at perverting it in such as way as to get an ISPF session
running from a UNIX shell prompt. drool/




 -- gil


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Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING

2015-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Will do

Lizette

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Glenn Wilcock
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:59 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING
 
 Hi Lizette,
 
 We want to have the documentation as helpful as possible.  It would
 certainly be reasonable for you to open a Request for Publication Change to
 add information in the HSM SA to indicate that the DFSMShsm Managing
 Your Own Data has additional information available regarding using wild cards
 when a user is recalling data.
 
 Thanks,
 Glenn Wilcock
 

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ADMIN Assistance Requested

2015-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
I do not know if Darren is still monitoring.  If so, this was posted on a
different list.  This is being posted on behalf of Phil

 

Is anyone here on IBM-MAIN? I need to talk to an administrator there because
I can't get the server to admit me or acknowledge my existence.  I can
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Re: New CSS in HCD

2015-06-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
When we exceeded the capacity of CSS0, we were fortunate in being able to solve 
the problem painlessly by moving only the ICF LPARs to CSS1. ICFs have the 
barest minimum needs for CHPID connections. All the actual OS LPARs could then 
fit into CSS0. Saved a ton of work.   

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Subject: New CSS in HCD

I need few more LPARs.
Due to limits I want to create new LPARs in new CSS1. As far as now only
CSS0 contains defined LPARs.

I wonder how to do it to save unnecessary work.
When you create another LPAR within CSS, you simply provide name and update 
channel access lists.
For new CSS the list of CHPIDs is empty, which means a lot of definitions.
Another approach is to copy whole CSS0 to CSS1. Actually I have to delete 
dummy CSS1 before the copy. However after that I have whole list of channel 
definitions, but with not PCHID assigned. It's not big work to fill the PCHID 
fields, but maybe there are simpler methods?

Any clue?

(Details: EC12, only OSA and FICON channels - that means can be defined as 
SPAN).

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Re: Value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1

2015-06-01 Thread Lucas Rosalen
From what I recall, when I brought z/OS 2.1 up, ISPF version was 7.1. So
I'd say yes the manual looks wrong - although it's from 2013, so there
might had been some changes to ISPF that comes with z/OS 2.1.

Lucas
On Jun 1, 2015 10:53 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com wrote:

 In z/OS 2.1 if I VGET (ZENVIR) SHARED I see ZENVIR has this value:

 ISPF 7.1MVS TSO

 But in this manual:

 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/ISP2RS00.pdf

 It lists all the values of ZENVIR for each version of the operating system
 (I've shown some examples below) and says characters 1 to 8 contain the
 product name and sequence number, in the form ISPF x.y. The sequence number
 x.y has this meaning:

 7.0 means ISPF for z/OS Version 2 Release 1.0
 6.3 means ISPF for z/OS Version 1 Release 13.0
 5.0 means ISPF for z/OS Version 1 Release 1.0

 In other words the manual says the value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1 should be
 7.0 but I'm seeing 7.1. Is the manual wrong?

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Value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1

2015-06-01 Thread Dave Salt
In z/OS 2.1 if I VGET (ZENVIR) SHARED I see ZENVIR has this value:

ISPF 7.1MVS TSO

But in this manual:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/ISP2RS00.pdf 

It lists all the values of ZENVIR for each version of the operating system 
(I've shown some examples below) and says characters 1 to 8 contain the 
product name and sequence number, in the form ISPF x.y. The sequence number x.y 
has this meaning:

7.0 means ISPF for z/OS Version 2 Release 1.0
6.3 means ISPF for z/OS Version 1 Release 13.0
5.0 means ISPF for z/OS Version 1 Release 1.0

In other words the manual says the value of ZENVIR in z/OS 2.1 should be 7.0 
but I'm seeing 7.1. Is the manual wrong?

Dave Salt

SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! 

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Re: HSM Recalls and MASKING

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
CAJTOO5-e=vog373+b6lnuxdu+zkn2+8w2essamhb0vshxrd...@mail.gmail.com,
on 05/29/2015
   at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:

Admins can't do wildcards on dataset names, since they are bypassing
RACF.

Shirley knott.
 
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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5568a3c8.5030...@gmail.com, on 05/30/2015
   at 01:37 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said:

It implicitly converted strings to ASCII

That's good if you want them converted; not so good if you don't.

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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0379604180364016.wa.bgodfrey.gzgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/29/2015
   at 10:30 AM, Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com said:

I get identical results whether I use \n or $ in the OP's example. In
OMVS. I'm not addressing your question but rather the OP's example.

Which OMVS facilities match \n to end of line (record) and which to
LF? What do grep et al do about matching \n against legacy PS data
sets, where there is a logical end of record?
 
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ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-01 Thread Sam Golob

Hi Folks,

I just made a new panel, accessible from www.cbttape.org, that will 
help PC users.  This screen will let you directly download some zip 
files from the CBT Tape collection, which are otherwise cumbersome to 
get, unless you have a z/OS system, or even if you have a z/OS system.  
These several zip-format files were separated from the CBT Tape itself, 
and made directly downloadable.


The direct URL is:   www.cbttape.org/zips.htm

To get to this panel from www.cbttape.org, just go to its home 
page, and look for the Zip Format Data button on the left side.


Try it.  You may like it.  I'm sure I'll get suggestions for other 
files to add to it.


For one thing, it'll make it very easy for users to get Phil 
Polchinski's AMAZING calendar file!


Use it in good health.

Sincerely, Sam

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Re: New CSS in HCD

2015-06-01 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Sounds like your channels are not currently defined as spanned.  If that is the 
case, add the new partition then change the channel mode.  Subsequent prompts 
for HCS7780 are Define Access List panel CBDPCH1B and Confirm Copy Control 
Unit and Device Attachments panel CBDPUT48.  Related help panel for the latter 
is CBDY6B22.

Regards,

Kevin

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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: New CSS in HCD

I need few more LPARs.
Due to limits I want to create new LPARs in new CSS1. As far as now only
CSS0 contains defined LPARs.

I wonder how to do it to save unnecessary work.
When you create another LPAR within CSS, you simply provide name and update 
channel access lists.
For new CSS the list of CHPIDs is empty, which means a lot of definitions.
Another approach is to copy whole CSS0 to CSS1. Actually I have to delete 
dummy CSS1 before the copy. However after that I have whole list of channel 
definitions, but with not PCHID assigned. It's not big work to fill the PCHID 
fields, but maybe there are simpler methods?

Any clue?

(Details: EC12, only OSA and FICON channels - that means can be defined as 
SPAN).

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Re: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-01 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks! Thanks for all you do.

I know you are a volunteer and I know about volunteer organizations. I'm on the 
Board of one and get very annoyed by the you should's from people who are 
only peripherally involved.

But ... here goes. I for one would love to see some way to browse the 
*high-level documentation* for a CBT file *directly* on a small ASCII-based 
system. I find it cumbersome to 

- search the CBT Web page for a possible candidate for some function I am 
looking for
- download the file to my PC.
- upload it to my LPAR (remember to get the binary part right!)
- RECEIVE it
- browse the documentation

... only to find it does not do what I wanted. Delete the file from my PC and 
two datasets from my LPAR. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Again ... not complaining. THANK YOU for maintaining the CBT tape.

Charles

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Of Sam Golob
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

Hi Folks,

 I just made a new panel, accessible from www.cbttape.org, that will help 
PC users.  This screen will let you directly download some zip files from the 
CBT Tape collection, which are otherwise cumbersome to get, unless you have a 
z/OS system, or even if you have a z/OS system.  
These several zip-format files were separated from the CBT Tape itself, and 
made directly downloadable.

 The direct URL is:   www.cbttape.org/zips.htm

 To get to this panel from www.cbttape.org, just go to its home page, and 
look for the Zip Format Data button on the left side.

 Try it.  You may like it.  I'm sure I'll get suggestions for other files 
to add to it.

 For one thing, it'll make it very easy for users to get Phil Polchinski's 
AMAZING calendar file!

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ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-01 Thread Sam Golob

Hi Folks,

   I agree with Mike Schwab.  I myself search CBTDOC.PDS with the PDS 
command:


FIND : /string/ THEN(MEMLIST)

command, which is the equivalent of doing a FIND on a string in CBT File 
001.  So browse CBT File 001 and look for what you think you want.  It 
MAY be a bit more accurate than just guessing.  The CBTDOC.PDS dataset 
is obtained by breaking up File 001 into a pds, using the CBTUPD program 
from CBT File 006.  So doing a PDS command string search on the pds, 
using it's FInd subcommand, is the equivalent of doing a plain string 
FIND on the entire File 001.  CBT FILE 001, while not being perfect, has 
a lot more detail than the one-liners on the CBT page of www.cbttape.org.


   I certainly hope this will help.

   All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,Sam

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Re: New Line vs. Line Feed

2015-06-01 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:11:54 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

In 0379604180364016.wa.bgodfrey.gzgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/29/2015
   at 10:30 AM, Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com said:

I get identical results whether I use \n or $ in the OP's example. In
OMVS. I'm not addressing your question but rather the OP's example.

Which OMVS facilities match \n to end of line (record) and which to
LF? What do grep et al do about matching \n against legacy PS data
sets, where there is a logical end of record?

When commands like cat and cp read legacy PS data sets as text, the results 
reflect this description of reading text files in the C/C++ Programming Guide:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CBCPG1C0/2.9.4.2

Where it says:

For files opened in fixed text format, rightmost blanks are stripped off a 
record at input, and a new-line character is placed in the logical record.

That new-line character is hex 15.

So a 3-line data set of 80-byte records that look like this:

a
test
testing

will look like this in hex after being read by cat

cat //test.cntl | od -tx1 -An
81  15  A3  85  A2  A3  15  A3  85  A2  A3  89  95  87  15

which is the same result as this command:

printf %b a\ntest\ntesting\n | od -tx1 -An
81  15  A3  85  A2  A3  15  A3  85  A2  A3  89  95  87  15

The only facility with regular expressions that I have found that matches \n to 
end-of-line is in Perl. For example:

printf %b a\ntest\ntesting\n | perl -ne 'print if /test\n/'
test

printf %b a\ntest\ntesting\n | perl -ne 'print if /test$/'
test

The grep and awk commands don't match \n to end-of-line on omvs, or on 
linux for that matter.

The grep command can't read a legacy PS data set directly, but awk can.

awk '/test$/' //test.cntl
test

Bill

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Re: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

2015-06-01 Thread Mike Schwab
Download the FILE 1 ASCII to view the directory of all files.
Download the XMITMGR and install.
Download a file and view with XMITMGR.
If it does what you want, upload as binary.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
 Thanks! Thanks for all you do.

 I know you are a volunteer and I know about volunteer organizations. I'm on 
 the Board of one and get very annoyed by the you should's from people who 
 are only peripherally involved.

 But ... here goes. I for one would love to see some way to browse the 
 *high-level documentation* for a CBT file *directly* on a small ASCII-based 
 system. I find it cumbersome to

 - search the CBT Web page for a possible candidate for some function I am 
 looking for
 - download the file to my PC.
 - upload it to my LPAR (remember to get the binary part right!)
 - RECEIVE it
 - browse the documentation

 ... only to find it does not do what I wanted. Delete the file from my PC and 
 two datasets from my LPAR. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 Again ... not complaining. THANK YOU for maintaining the CBT tape.

 Charles

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Sam Golob
 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:07 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: ZIP-format files on CBT downloadable directly (new)

 Hi Folks,

  I just made a new panel, accessible from www.cbttape.org, that will help 
 PC users.  This screen will let you directly download some zip files from the 
 CBT Tape collection, which are otherwise cumbersome to get, unless you have a 
 z/OS system, or even if you have a z/OS system.
 These several zip-format files were separated from the CBT Tape itself, and 
 made directly downloadable.

  The direct URL is:   www.cbttape.org/zips.htm

  To get to this panel from www.cbttape.org, just go to its home page, and 
 look for the Zip Format Data button on the left side.

  Try it.  You may like it.  I'm sure I'll get suggestions for other files 
 to add to it.

  For one thing, it'll make it very easy for users to get Phil 
 Polchinski's AMAZING calendar file!

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Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23

2015-06-01 Thread Ed Gould

On May 31, 2015, at 11:50 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

Long time ago (MVS/ESA 3.x in the late 80ies), I wrote JES2 and  
PSF exits to provide (part of) the accounting information as well  
as some other stuff to PSF. It was a combination of JES Exits 3 and  
23, as well as PSF exits 1 and 2.
At that time, I did not want to take the burden to extend any JES2  
control blokc held on the spool, and since it was sufficient, I  
used some user fields in the JCT so save acoounting information in  
JES2 exit 3.
Later, JES2 exit 23 aquired some storage (getmain) to store this  
data for PSF exits 1 and 2. PSF exit 2 (job end) was in charge of  
releasing the storage after use.


This is from a quick refresh of my memory. Note also that I have  
not verified if there is an easier way nowadays.


I'll send you some code snippets offlist.

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Peter,

I think you have you times askew.

PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts).

ed

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