Re: LPD from Linux versus VAX
Hi, It seems that the file is now coming from a Linux box via the CUPS printing subsystem. No one know what was done on the VAX side before because no one here knows VAX anymore. So, assuming this was a straight ASCII file with ASCII carriage control, is there a standard filter I would use on the CUPS end to convert to ANSI carriage control for PSF/VM? Again, thanks in advance, Peter
Re: DASD cylinders
No, the 2311 pack was 7.25 MB. I may have some doc at home that has some geometry info. Jim Tom Duerbusch wrote: Wow... 9 MB per pack. We'll never use it all G. And, they are demountable too. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DASD cylinders
How then do I have actual volumes on my system of 32,760 cyls. That's not divisible by 1113 (ds8000 here). Marcy: Sorry, I was not clear. Allocation is in multiples of 1113 cylinders. You can make a volume whatever size you want, but if it is not a multiple of 1113 cylinders, the remainder up to the next 1113 cylinder boundary is not usable. Therefore, if you defined a volume of 100 cylinders, you would be wasting 1013 cylinders. Jim
Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?
This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting paid for it. NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that APPLE. I don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I get rid of that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following APPLE. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Modify the SPECS stage to 'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |', emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record, rather than after it. Marty _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? This works pretty good. There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1 ORANGES for each APPLES. But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples? 'PIPE TEST FILE A', '|XXX: IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ', '|SPECS 1-* 1 WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', '|XXX: ', '| NEW FILE A' -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ]On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Hi Don, I never pay attention to details. Please read my signature tagline. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. John von Neumann =-Original Message- =From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ] On =Behalf Of Don Russell =Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM =To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? = =The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the =stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read from =the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing =APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. = ='PIPE test file a |', ='locate /APPLES/|', ='strliteral /ORANGES/|', =' new file a' = =Will result in a new file a with one record more than the count of ='APPLES' records found. =The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to be =the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... = =Don Russell = __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com http://www.ellaforspam.com _ ella for Spam Control has removed 10487 VSE-List messages and set aside 8620 VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com http://www.ellaforspam.com
Re: SPXTAPE alternatives
That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to CMS files and restore all system files (NSS, DCSS, IMG, OVERRIDE and NLS) On a restore, if needed, the appropriate DEFSEG/DEFSYS is constructed based upon the file to be restored and issued. Restored files may be issued new names. Documentation is sketchy but if there is interest that can be fixed. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DASD cylinders
I was fixing an exec with this just yesterday and ran into the same problem. I thought I had an easy solution those months ago by altering 3390-0A to 3390-3 and 3390-0C to 3390-9. Then the 3390-27's showed up and still got translated as 3390-0C. Whoops. Ended up creating a table for each of the cyl counts to change to the mod I wanted. Found another system that has all sorts of different sized 3390s. So, how to determine how to report dasd that isn't of standard sizes. How about something like 3390-S1 meaning it's smaller than a normal mod-1? Bob Bates -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders Right, there's the details query. But the issue is do those cyl values make the monitor data so that the tools we use (i.e. Velocity or PTK) can put them on screens in reports (the reports say -9 for the 32,760 one). q dasd details b866 B866 CUTYPE = 3990-E9, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = V9PG02, CYLS = 1252 CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 66, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:49 q dasd details 6d00 6D00 CUTYPE = 3990-E9, DEVTYPE = 3390-0C, VOLSER = 6D00VM, CYLS = 32760 CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:52 q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0602 (64-bit) Generated at 12/06/06 17:18:29 CST IPL at 02/25/07 04:08:48 CST Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:54 Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] DASD cylinders q dasd details b300 B300 CUTYPE = 2105-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0C, VOLSER = VPC900, CYLS = 10017 CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0602 (64-bit) Generated at 01/21/07 06:36:52 EST IPL at 01/21/07 06:44:05 EST David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 3/6/2007 2:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] DASD cylinders Back in the Good Old Days with RTM, I had a modification that would identify the different 3390 models on the device screen, with '3393' for a model 3, '3399' for a model 9, '339M' for a model 27, and '339X' for everything else (which at the time the three models were all we had.) With PTK we can't do that, unfortunately, and with all the changes they've put into CP, it would take a big-time rewrite of RTM to make it work past zVM 5.1.0. I agree with Marcy in that it would be very nice to be able to have some way of knowing which model 3390 you are looking at. Even being able to have a customized screen that would read a table of addresses and matching in the correct device type would be useful. Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/06/2007 02:47 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DASD cylinders That's what I think too. Mod 27 and Mod 54 don't
Hitachi Disk
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with hooking up an Hitachi TagmaStore (model NSC55) disk unit to a mainframe. Specifically I would like to know: 1) PTFs needed to run the Hitachi through Escon channels to z/VM 3.1 2) PTFs needed to run it through Ficon channels to z/VM 5.2 3) Are there any other things to watch out for? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?
Have you no pride?? Before we get carried away down a rat hole, what you expect to happen if there were 5 prunes following apple? Also, how about posing all your questions at once?? Is someone paying you to ask these questions Or are they paying you for the answers? ___ Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. John von Neumann From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:17 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting paid for it. NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that APPLE. I don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I get rid of that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following APPLE. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Modify the SPECS stage to 'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |', emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record, rather than after it. Marty From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? This works pretty good. There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1 ORANGES for each APPLES. But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples? 'PIPE TEST FILE A', '|XXX: IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ', '|SPECS 1-* 1 WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', '|XXX: ', '| NEW FILE A' -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Hi Don, I never pay attention to details. Please read my signature tagline. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. John von Neumann =-Original Message- =From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =Behalf Of Don Russell =Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM =To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? = =The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the =stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read from =the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing =APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. = ='PIPE test file a |', ='locate /APPLES/|', ='strliteral /ORANGES/|', =' new file a' = =Will result in a new file a with one record more than the count of ='APPLES' records found. =The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to be =the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... = =Don Russell = __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com ella for Spam Control has removed 10487 VSE-List messages and set aside 8620 VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com
Re: Hitachi Disk
Peter On this IBM page http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ Try searching for 2105DEVICE in the search box in the middle of the page, This will pull up all the SHARK Buckets. Also you should press your vendor for help... I would think they do some type of systems assurance that would cover needed PTF's eric At 09:36 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with hooking up an Hitachi TagmaStore (model NSC55) disk unit to a mainframe. Specifically I would like to know: 1) PTFs needed to run the Hitachi through Escon channels to z/VM 3.1 2) PTFs needed to run it through Ficon channels to z/VM 5.2 3) Are there any other things to watch out for? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to = which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged mate= rial. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking = of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities ot= her than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If y= ou received this in error please contact the sender and delete the materi= al from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot = by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the c= ontent of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on bas= is of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail a= nd any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no li= ability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. T= his disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circ= umvented in any manner. Eric Schadow Mainframe Technical Support www.davisvision.com The information contained in this communication is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. It may contain information that is privileged or confidential, and may be protected by State and/or Federal Regulations. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, please contact the sender.
Spool/page devices online at ipl
This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris
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Re: help
Could we have a little more information, please? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benedict, Martin Sent: March 7, 2007 09:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: help Help The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?
Frequently plumbing is easier to operate on a record rather than a set of records. Most of us will resort to some kind of sipping pipeline that operates on such a single set (rather than a stream of sets). If you need something that will look at two adjacent records, it sometimes helps to do this: | dup | drop | join , , | Now it's easy to remove the record that has apple prune since that represents an apple followed by a prune. After you removed that, you use a spec w1 will get you the single item per record again. Alternative would be this: | o: if between /apple/ 2 | pick w1 /prune/ | o: | Clearly if you know there will be only one apple or one prune, things get way easier... Rob
Re: SPXTAPE alternatives
Is this available VM down load site ? What's the pgm name and doc ? Can I have url for the VM Download site ? Thanks, Ann Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/07/2007 09:31 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SPXTAPE alternatives That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to CMS files and restore all system files (NSS, DCSS, IMG, OVERRIDE and NLS) On a restore, if needed, the appropriate DEFSEG/DEFSYS is constructed based upon the file to be restored and issued. Restored files may be issued new names. Documentation is sketchy but if there is interest that can be fixed. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.
Re: SPXTAPE alternatives
Sorry all. Apparently I wasn't very clear. I was responding to Chris Langford's posting regarding *his *program to do this function. I agree that it would be very useful and is something that I really hope he makes available either on the VM Download site or thru the less formal but equally useful download site that Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock Univ. keeps. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0056713B85257297_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this available VM down load site ? What's the pgm name and doc ? Can I have url for the VM Download site ? Thanks, Ann Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/07/2007 09:31 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SPXTAPE alternatives That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to CMS files and restore all system files (NSS, DCSS, IMG, OVERRIDE and NLS) On a restore, if needed, the appropriate DEFSEG/DEFSYS is constructed based upon the file to be restored and issued. Restored files may be issued new names. Documentation is sketchy but if there is interest that can be fixed. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPXTAPE alternatives
John was suggesting that a new program be added to the Downloads website. I don't think there are any packages there now that deal with saving/restoring DCSSes/NSSes/etc. The download website is: http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/ There are LOTS of usable programs there even if they are OLD. Some of the old REXX functions and Pipeline stages work just GREAT. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this available VM down load site ? What's the pgm name and doc ? Can I have url for the VM Download site ? Thanks, Ann Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/07/2007 09:31 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SPXTAPE alternatives That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to CMS files and restore all system files (NSS, DCSS, IMG, OVERRIDE and NLS) On a restore, if needed, the appropriate DEFSEG/DEFSYS is constructed based upon the file to be restored and issued. Restored files may be issued new names. Documentation is sketchy but if there is interest that can be fixed. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? .. Thanks Rob
Thanks Rob, Nice explaination too. I'll go away now. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Frequently plumbing is easier to operate on a record rather than a set of records. Most of us will resort to some kind of sipping pipeline that operates on such a single set (rather than a stream of sets). If you need something that will look at two adjacent records, it sometimes helps to do this: | dup | drop | join , , | Now it's easy to remove the record that has apple prune since that represents an apple followed by a prune. After you removed that, you use a spec w1 will get you the single item per record again. Alternative would be this: | o: if between /apple/ 2 | pick w1 /prune/ | o: | Clearly if you know there will be only one apple or one prune, things get way easier... Rob __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
Re: SPXTAPE alternatives
Thank you all for the information ! ! Ann The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.
Re: Dirmaint
I have looked all through the 'SYSTEM CONFIG' file and could not locate any reference for locking out users when password was entered incorrectly. Could you possibly post a section of yours so that I can see where and what it is?
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: DASD cylinders
You can always retrieve the maximum cylinder from the RDEV. Here is a little EXEC that can be called as a function or a command. Appropriate class required. /* */ arg oad . maxcyl = '' mrc = '' parse value diag(8,'QUERY' oad) with dasd rdev . if dasd \= 'DASD' | rdev ^= oad then do msg = ''oad' is not a DASD device currently on the system.' mrc = '-16' signal exit end 'PIPE (end \ name GetMax)', '\ cp locate rdev' oad, '| locate /'oad'/', '| spec /d h n/ 1 w2 n /.40/ n', '| cp', '| drop 4', '| spec w3 x2d 1', '| var maxcyl' msg = 'The size of device' oad 'is' maxcyl 'cylinders.' mrc = 0 exit: if calltype = 'FUNCTION' then do if mrc ^= 0 then return mrc return maxcyl end if msg ^= '' then say msg exit mrc Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders I was fixing an exec with this just yesterday and ran into the same problem. I thought I had an easy solution those months ago by altering 3390-0A to 3390-3 and 3390-0C to 3390-9. Then the 3390-27's showed up and still got translated as 3390-0C. Whoops. Ended up creating a table for each of the cyl counts to change to the mod I wanted. Found another system that has all sorts of different sized 3390s. So, how to determine how to report dasd that isn't of standard sizes. How about something like 3390-S1 meaning it's smaller than a normal mod-1? Bob Bates -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders Right, there's the details query. But the issue is do those cyl values make the monitor data so that the tools we use (i.e. Velocity or PTK) can put them on screens in reports (the reports say -9 for the 32,760 one). q dasd details b866 B866 CUTYPE = 3990-E9, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = V9PG02, CYLS = 1252 CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 66, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:49 q dasd details 6d00 6D00 CUTYPE = 3990-E9, DEVTYPE = 3390-0C, VOLSER = 6D00VM, CYLS = 32760 CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:52 q cplevel z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, service level 0602 (64-bit) Generated at 12/06/06 17:18:29 CST IPL at 02/25/07 04:08:48 CST Ready; T=0.01/0.01 20:13:54 Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
Re: Dirmaint
On 3/7/07, Martin Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked all through the 'SYSTEM CONFIG' file and could not locate any reference for locking out users when password was entered incorrectly. Could you possibly post a section of yours so that I can see where and what it is? Look at JOURNALING Statement in CP Planning and Administration. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
They cannot be initialized before reading the CONFIG file because it is possible to have different sysown lists in different files. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Spool/page devices online at ipl This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris
Re: Dirmaint
Martin, I don't have it specified in our SYSTEM CONFIG, but if you look in the z/VM: CP Planning and Administration manual, specifically Chapter 6: The System Configuration File, under the subject of the JOURNALing STATEMENT, pages 163 thru 166, it discusses this item, as well as gives you examples; for a z/VM 5.2 system. Hopes this helps. Enjoy Paul D. Ditzer Winchester - TSD DST Systems, Inc. 816-737-9403 Martin Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICECHOPPER.COMTo Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu z/VM Operating cc System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject ark.edu Re: Dirmaint 03/07/2007 10:24 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] ark.edu I have looked all through the 'SYSTEM CONFIG' file and could not locate any reference for locking out users when password was entered incorrectly. Could you possibly post a section of yours so that I can see where and what it is? - This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system.
Re: DASD cylinders
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more than two and a half times as big as 27. Converting to mathematical terms: j=54 k=27 n=2.5 You want j/k n, where j and k are in base b. Expressing j and k in terms of base b gives: j=54 base b = 5*b^1 + 4*b^0 = 5b+4 k=27 base b = 2*b^1 + 7*b^0 = 2b+7 Substituting into j/k n: (5b+4) / (2b+7) n, where n2.5 Now choose an n 2.5, and solve the following equation for b: (5b+4) / (2b+7) = n When n=3, (5b+4) / (2b+7) = 3 5b+4 = 3(2b+7) 5b+4 = 6b+21 b=-17 To double check, we substitute b=-17 into: (5b+4) / (2b+7) 2.5, giving: (-85+4) / (-34+7) 2.5 (-81)/(-27) 2.5 3 2.5, which is indeed true. For larger values of n, b asymptotically approaches -3.5. For values of n=2.5+x, where x0 and as x-0, b-negative infinity QED. A long time ago I read a mathematical paper on some interesting propertie s of negative base number systems. Now it's earned me a dollar. Brian Nielsen
HCPEVDBK COPY
Hi, One of the developers was trying to find the event data block. It is referred to in the following: 00088 Bitstring6 PCCEVTBF Information common to all READ/ WRITE EVENT DATA commands. Note - HCPEVDBK defines the EVENT buffer Does this event buffer exist in zVM 5.2? Is it available, or is it for IBM use only. Thanks, Ken Vance Amadeus
Re: DASD cylinders
Guess it should have been a problem involving a 3 digit number with 0 for the middle digit. Then, a base of -17 would be equivalent to a base of +17. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more than two and a half times as big as 27. Converting to mathematical terms: j=54 k=27 n=2.5 You want j/k n, where j and k are in base b. Expressing j and k in terms of base b gives: j=54 base b = 5*b^1 + 4*b^0 = 5b+4 k=27 base b = 2*b^1 + 7*b^0 = 2b+7 Substituting into j/k n: (5b+4) / (2b+7) n, where n2.5 Now choose an n 2.5, and solve the following equation for b: (5b+4) / (2b+7) = n When n=3, (5b+4) / (2b+7) = 3 5b+4 = 3(2b+7) 5b+4 = 6b+21 b=-17 To double check, we substitute b=-17 into: (5b+4) / (2b+7) 2.5, giving: (-85+4) / (-34+7) 2.5 (-81)/(-27) 2.5 3 2.5, which is indeed true. For larger values of n, b asymptotically approaches -3.5. For values of n=2.5+x, where x0 and as x-0, b-negative infinity QED. A long time ago I read a mathematical paper on some interesting propertie= s of negative base number systems. Now it's earned me a dollar. Brian Nielsen
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You'd have to change user direct as well, do a change/oldvol/newvol/* * to get them all. Once we had to format the pack as spool prior to the ddr but other times not. 99% of the time we have to force the spool anyway, but don't have to rebuild the segments. MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mary Anne Matyaz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: DASD cylinders
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Brian Nielsen wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more than two and a half times as big as 27. A long time ago I read a mathematical paper on some interesting propertie s of negative base number systems. Now it's earned me a dollar. I guess it has. Want me to Paypal it to you? Or I can just, you know, mail you a dollar bill if you give me your address. Adam
Re: DASD cylinders
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Guess it should have been a problem involving a 3 digit number with 0 for the middle digit. Then, a base of -17 would be equivalent to a base of +17. Well, now we know what base we're calculating in where 54 = 3 * 27, which incidentally answers the new math implied-question that started this whole thing. Adam
Re: DASD cylinders
Send it to him via e-mail :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Brian Nielsen wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more than two and a half times as big as 27. A long time ago I read a mathematical paper on some interesting propertie s of negative base number systems. Now it's earned me a dollar. I guess it has. Want me to Paypal it to you? Or I can just, you know, mail you a dollar bill if you give me your address. Adam
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You must have made another error: if you relabel and change all labels in SYSTEM CONFIG, the SPOOL must be found. You must find the the labels in the CP OWNED list and the one disk for Checkpoint+Warm start area (by default on the resident). If you forget the changes in the CP directory, no minidisks will be found, hence IPL CMS will not work. You'd need to use DEFINE MDISK to get hold on MAINT 190 (to find the CMS S-disk and DIRECTXA) and the location of the CP directory source. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Hitachi Disk
We are running a NSC55 over escon wih z/VM 4.4: Q CPLEVEL Z/VM VERSION 4 RELEASE 4.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0404 (32-BIT) GENERATED AT 01/03/05 16:17:30 JLM IPL AT 02/27/07 21:57:41 JLM READY; T=0.01/0.01 20:24:40 No additional PTFs beyond the RSU level. Shimon On 7 Mar 2007 at 9:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with hooking up an Hitachi TagmaStore (model NSC55) disk unit to a mainframe. Specifically I would like to know: 1) PTFs needed to run the Hitachi through Escon channels to z/VM 3.1 2) PTFs needed to run it through Ficon channels to z/VM 5.2 3) Are there any other things to watch out for? Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- ** ** Shimon Lebowitzmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] VM System Programmer . Israel Police National HQ. http://www.poboxes.com/shimonpgp Jerusalem, Israel phone: +972 2 542-9877 fax: 542-9308 ** **
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
FYI, the cookbooks are redbooks, one for RHEL: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247272.html?Open and one for SLES: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html?Open MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mary Anne Matyaz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
During the IPL VM reads the SYSTEM CONFIG file to find the spool and page volumes. About the only thing that is done before SYSTEM CONFIG is loading the VM nucleus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You probably changed the order of the spool volumes. That will force the spool to be empty. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Issuing HX from Rexx
Well, a bit drastic, but you could always do CP IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: March 7, 2007 15:39 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Issuing HX from Rexx Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. ian ... The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: Issuing HX from Rexx
How about #cp ext ? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Issuing HX from Rexx Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. ian ... __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
Re: Dirmaint
You might want to choose a different period to 31 days. If you choose 31 the passwords will start expiring at the week end, and you may get extra service calls on Modays because folks have problems. --- Benedict, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help! We have set up the 31 day requirement for a user to change their CMS password. I have been through most of the DirMaint config files and have not located anything resembling an exec that would disable a users CMS id if they entered their password incorrectly 3 or more times. If this is not part of DirMAint, has anyone written an exec to perform this function? Martin V. Benedict, Sr. Sr. VM/VSE Systems Programmer Golub Corporation / Price Chopper Supermarkets 518-379-1261(business) 518-788-3742(mobile) 518-379-3514(fax) www.pricechopper.com http://www.pricechopper.com Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Issuing HX from Rexx
No good from a disconnected machine because a read will be posted, even if you queue a response. The best bet that I know of is to have the caller test return codes and exit the subroutine with one that signifies that it has traversed into an area where the doo doo is exceedingly deep. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Issuing HX from Rexx How about #cp ext ? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Issuing HX from Rexx Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. ian ... __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
Re: DASD cylinders
We've just been honoring the 3390 all these years by trying to do things they would have done them. Had FBA been more popular at the time of the real 3390's, we might be seeing 3350 mod 81's instead. Maybe that would be 3370 mod 81? Or 9336 model something? On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, David Boyes wrote: Had MVS been able to cope with FBA, rather. FBA was plenty popular with the non-MVS crowd. ... Don't get me started!! IT'S SILLY. MVS demands CKD, but then hardly uses it. So the other mainframe op systems are saddled with track-and-record, prevented from doing just data like the rest of the civilized world. MVS requires CKD for a few piddly things but in the heavy lifting it uses VSAM which squishes out the track and record geometry in favor of demand pagable storage. If they too are going to make disk look like RAM, then why not use disk geometry that natually matches RAM? -- R;
Re: DASD cylinders
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Hercules emulate 2311's ?? On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Dave Wade wrote: Yes, its fine with smaller DASD. It will also emulate larger than normal FBA. However there are some issues with larger devices, when the file used to contain the image goes over 2GB. Note too that Hercules can use a partition as an FBA volume. In fact, you can point Hercules at a whole disk (either IDE or SCSI, does not matter). Furthermore, if said whole disk is partitioned and happens to have no more than three partitions the Linux running on said Hercules instance will recognize the partition table and act properly, even though it is FBA (from the Linux perspective) instead of SAN or SCSI. But then, most IDE and SCSI disk these days is well over 2G so the issues Dave mentions could come up. :-( -- R;
High Level Assembler
Fellow Listers, I have been asked if we need High Level Assembler. We have three exits that I know of - VMSECURE but this can be done in REXX. - RACF (I have read CMS Assembler is OK) - RSCS - still to be examined Does any-one know of a product that we need HLA HLATK for. We run zVM 5.2 with CA VM:Manager suite. Thanks Graeme Moss
Re: Issuing HX from Rexx
On Wednesday, 03/07/2007 at 02:39 CST, Ian S. Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. Not directly, no. The only quasi-supported thing I know to do is to call a program that issues an abend with code 0x222 (which is what HX does). Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: DASD cylinders
On Wednesday, 03/07/2007 at 09:32 EST, Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was fixing an exec with this just yesterday and ran into the same problem. I thought I had an easy solution those months ago by altering 3390-0A to 3390-3 and 3390-0C to 3390-9. Then the 3390-27's showed up and still got translated as 3390-0C. Whoops. Ended up creating a table for each of the cyl counts to change to the mod I wanted. Found another system that has all sorts of different sized 3390s. So, how to determine how to report dasd that isn't of standard sizes. h How about something like 3390-S1 meaning it's smaller than a normal mod-1? Architecturally, the number of cylinders is orthogonal to the model number. It just so happens that our model 'n' has 'm' number of cylinders on it. The number of cylinders actually comes from the device itself. (E.g. note minidisks have the device type of the underlying rdev, but have fewer cyls.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: DASD cylinders
I'm glad that, as a struggling math major in college in the mid-60's, I went into computers instead of trying to keep up with higher math such as the number of cylinders on a disk. I thought that an orthogon was a type of crooked 4-sided shape but Google says: '*Orthogonal*' means mutually independent, non-redundant, non-overlapping, or irrelevant. In computer terminology, something is *orthogonal* if it can be used *... *I give up. Jim Alan Altmark wrote: Architecturally, the number of cylinders is orthogonal to the model number. It just so happens that our model 'n' has 'm' number of cylinders on it. The number of cylinders actually comes from the device itself. (E.g. note minidisks have the device type of the underlying rdev, but have fewer cyls.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
