Setup XLINK
Hello Listers, I am looking into XLINK. The main goal is to be able to determine if a minidiskextent on DASD is already in R/W use on a different VM. This way we could provide for an easy switch for linux guests from one VM to another. We do not setup the full CSE here. SPOOL and DIRMAINT are just for their own VM image. Now I have found that I need: - XLINK_SYSTEM_INCLUDE for every VM system. - XLINK_VOLUME_INCLUDE for every DASD volume. - XLINK FORMAT the DASD to enable the volume for XLINK usage. Do I need more? For instance, it could be that there are multiple minidis ks on one volume and that the linuxguests in question are spread across the 4 VM images. Should the DASD be set to SHARED for this? As I understand it linux doesn't require the disks to be SHARED but I'd like to be sure. Are there any other issues I should prepare for? TIA, Berry.
z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
Hi all, We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we are getting this error when issuing the command: pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest CKD222* DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE CLEARED ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON , RC=1 Ready(1); Has anyone an idea of what the problem could be ? We haven't been able to locate the error and find a solution. Thanks in advance, José R. Barón Dpto. Sistemas CALCULO S.A. Pza. de las Cortes, 2 28014 Madrid Tel. 91 330 86 44 / E-mail: mailto:jba...@calculo-sa.es jba...@calculo-sa.es P No imprima este e-mail si no es realmente necesario. Do not print this e-mail unless really necessary.
Re: SEGGEN failure
On the advice of a respected member of the list, I tried adding a LOT of virtual storage to MAINT, but even with 512M I get the same result. This makes sense, since the error message is not mentioning any problem loading the content of the segment. This is happening in VMFBDSEG EXEC at lines 2169-2170. The first is the SEGMENT RESERVE command, the second is the invocation of SEGGEN MODULE, which fails. Just for fun I commented out the RESERVE, since SEGGEN is apparently complaining about it, but (no surprise!) SEGGEN did not work then either. The difference was that there was no message explaining WHY it failed. So, here I am stuck, even with 512M, and no segment being built. Oh, the details of the segment are the defaults, 3M beginning at 20M: cp q nss name instseg map FILE FILENAME FILETYPE MINSIZE BEGPAG ENDPAG TYPE CL #USERS PARMREGS VMGROUP 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A01400 016FF SR A 00021 N/A N/A 0074 INSTSEG DCSS N/A01400 016FF SR S 0 N/A N/A And catching the SEGMENT RESERVE with an interactive trace, shows: 'QUERY SEGMENT *' Space Name Location LengthLoaded Attribute INSTSEG INSTSEG 0140 0030 NO USER Any ideas? ! ! ! NEWS FLASH ! ! != For some reason I happened to look at CMSINST LSEGMAP D on the 51D disk, and *IT* had the answer to the problem!!! One of the files I had listed in the build list for the segment was a mistake, and did not exist! So, instead of nicely putting out a RC=28 and saying the file was missing, it hid this message in a file NOT on my A-disk, and expected me to guess the problem. :-( Anyway, I made that correction, and then just for fun I reset storage to 64M before the build. It worked fine! Oh... the message about the segment already being reserved is a red herring, I got that message on the successful run too! VMFBLD2760I VMFBLD processing started VMFBLD1851I Reading build lists VMFBLD2182I Identifying new build requirements VMFBLD2182I No new build requirements identified VMFBLD1851I (1 of 1) VMFBDSEG processing SEGBLIST EXC0 D, target is BUILD 51D (D) VMFBDS2115I Validating segment INSTSEG VMFBDS2002I A DEFSEG command will be issued for 1 segment(s). VMFBDS2219I Processing object INSTSEG.SEGMENT DMSDCS358E Skeleton segment INSTSEG has already been reserved HCPNSS440I Saved segment INSTSEG was successfully saved in fileid 0076. VMFBLD1851I (1 of 1) VMFBDSEG completed with return code 0 VMFBLD2180I There are 0 build requirements remaining VMFBLD2760I VMFBLD processing completed successfully Ready; T=3.73/4.02 12:17:07 So I sent all this to the list in case someone else also gets these messages: DMSGEN1279E Error(s) occurred during SEGGEN processing. VMFBDS1965E The command, SEGGEN INSTSEG PSEG A SYSTEM SEGID D2 ( TYPE, failed with return code 32 Thank you all kindly for your attention :-) Shimon
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote: Hi all, We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we are getting this error when issuing the command: pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest CKD222* DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE CLEARED ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON , RC=1 Ready(1); Are you sure the disk is R/W and that it is the right size? I tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real book). IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine.. Access the mini disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good to go. Rob
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
Rob, just a quick note. The size for minidisk must be EXACTLY of 5 cyl. Not less AND NOT MORE :-) if more than 5 cyl. are defined you get RC=1. This goes too with the other disks that must be EXACTLY of: - Minidisk 22CC: 5 cyl. - Minidisk 2CF1: 120 cyl. BRGDS and thank you again for your help. José R. Barón Dpto. Sistemas CALCULO S.A. Pza. de las Cortes, 2 28014 Madrid Tel. 91 330 86 44 / E-mail: jba...@calculo-sa.es P No imprima este e-mail si no es realmente necesario. Do not print this e-mail unless really necessary. -Mensaje original- De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] En nombre de Rob van der Heij Enviado el: martes, 17 de marzo de 2009 11:57 Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Asunto: Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote: Hi all, We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we are getting this error when issuing the command: pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest CKD222* DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE CLEARED ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON , RC=1 Ready(1); Are you sure the disk is R/W and that it is the right size? I tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real book). IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine.. Access the mini disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good to go. Rob
Re: SEGGEN failure
Search your A-disk for LSEGMAP and PSEGMAP files, they may tell the segment storage is full. VMSES's SEGGEN usage is an area for improvement: all debugging information is missing. 2009/3/17 Shimon Lebowitz shimon...@gmail.com: On the advice of a respected member of the list, I tried adding a LOT of virtual storage to MAINT, but even with 512M I get the same result. This makes sense, since the error message is not mentioning any problem loading the content of the segment. This is happening in VMFBDSEG EXEC at lines 2169-2170. The first is the SEGMENT RESERVE command, the second is the invocation of SEGGEN MODULE, which fails. Just for fun I commented out the RESERVE, since SEGGEN is apparently complaining about it, but (no surprise!) SEGGEN did not work then either. The difference was that there was no message explaining WHY it failed. So, here I am stuck, even with 512M, and no segment being built. Oh, the details of the segment are the defaults, 3M beginning at 20M: cp q nss name instseg map FILE FILENAME FILETYPE MINSIZE BEGPAG ENDPAG TYPE CL #USERS PARMREGS VMGROUP 0005 INSTSEG DCSS N/A01400 016FF SR A 00021 N/A N/A 0074 INSTSEG DCSS N/A01400 016FF SR S 0 N/A N/A And catching the SEGMENT RESERVE with an interactive trace, shows: 'QUERY SEGMENT *' Space Name Location LengthLoaded Attribute INSTSEG INSTSEG 0140 0030 NO USER Any ideas? ! ! ! NEWS FLASH ! ! != For some reason I happened to look at CMSINST LSEGMAP D on the 51D disk, and *IT* had the answer to the problem!!! One of the files I had listed in the build list for the segment was a mistake, and did not exist! So, instead of nicely putting out a RC=28 and saying the file was missing, it hid this message in a file NOT on my A-disk, and expected me to guess the problem. :-( Anyway, I made that correction, and then just for fun I reset storage to 64M before the build. It worked fine! Oh... the message about the segment already being reserved is a red herring, I got that message on the successful run too! VMFBLD2760I VMFBLD processing started VMFBLD1851I Reading build lists VMFBLD2182I Identifying new build requirements VMFBLD2182I No new build requirements identified VMFBLD1851I (1 of 1) VMFBDSEG processing SEGBLIST EXC0 D, target is BUILD 51D (D) VMFBDS2115I Validating segment INSTSEG VMFBDS2002I A DEFSEG command will be issued for 1 segment(s). VMFBDS2219I Processing object INSTSEG.SEGMENT DMSDCS358E Skeleton segment INSTSEG has already been reserved HCPNSS440I Saved segment INSTSEG was successfully saved in fileid 0076. VMFBLD1851I (1 of 1) VMFBDSEG completed with return code 0 VMFBLD2180I There are 0 build requirements remaining VMFBLD2760I VMFBLD processing completed successfully Ready; T=3.73/4.02 12:17:07 So I sent all this to the list in case someone else also gets these messages: DMSGEN1279E Error(s) occurred during SEGGEN processing. VMFBDS1965E The command, SEGGEN INSTSEG PSEG A SYSTEM SEGID D2 ( TYPE, failed with return code 32 Thank you all kindly for your attention :-) Shimon -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Setup XLINK
XLINK makes it possible to protect multiple minidisks on a shared pack. XLINK checks cylinder ranges. You can test this - on VMA, use LINK userid vdev 1 M - on VMB try LINK userid vdev 1 M and this should fail, CP should tell userid vdev not linked, R/W by VMA Note that there are no commands to dynamically the XLINK definitions as those found in SYSTEM CONFIG, and IPL is required. You don't need to define the volumes as shared, but BEWARE: - The problem is MDC: when MDC is active for a volume, CP may find request data in storage and may no go to the disk fo satisfy an I/O. Hence is an update took place in VMA a request from VMB may read backlevel data - Turn MDC OFF for the shared volumes and you are safe (the default for disks definedd as SHARED) - or, if you know 100% sure that only one system is writing to it - leave MDC ON for the volumes on the writing system - turn MDC OFF for the volumes on all reading systems (my former customer has been working like this for years) 2009/3/17 Berry van Sleeuwen berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl: Hello Listers, I am looking into XLINK. The main goal is to be able to determine if a minidiskextent on DASD is already in R/W use on a different VM. This way we could provide for an easy switch for linux guests from one VM to another. We do not setup the full CSE here. SPOOL and DIRMAINT are just for their own VM image. Now I have found that I need: - XLINK_SYSTEM_INCLUDE for every VM system. - XLINK_VOLUME_INCLUDE for every DASD volume. - XLINK FORMAT the DASD to enable the volume for XLINK usage. Do I need more? For instance, it could be that there are multiple minidisks on one volume and that the linuxguests in question are spread across the 4 VM images. Should the DASD be set to SHARED for this? As I understand it linux doesn't require the disks to be SHARED but I'd like to be sure. Are there any other issues I should prepare for? TIA, Berry. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
Hi Rob. Yes, I have looked into my disk and it varied from being empty to be filled with lots of files (67 files to be more accurate). I suppose this is no big problem, but just wanted to make sure. (The old costume to look for RC=0's). I will take your advise and go on. Thanks for your help once again. BRGDS, José R. Barón Dpto. Sistemas CALCULO S.A. -Mensaje original- De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] En nombre de Rob van der Heij Enviado el: martes, 17 de marzo de 2009 11:57 Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Asunto: Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote: Hi all, We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we are getting this error when issuing the command: pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest CKD222* DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE CLEARED ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON , RC=1 Ready(1); Are you sure the disk is R/W and that it is the right size? I tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real book). IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine.. Access the mini disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good to go. Rob
Re: Setup XLINK
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: XLINK makes it possible to protect multiple minidisks on a shared pack. XLINK checks cylinder ranges. Incorrect Kris. XLINK only protects the starting cylinder. However, as long as magic ensures identical directories, this should be a moot point. You can test this - on VMA, use LINK userid vdev 1 M - on VMB try LINK userid vdev 1 M and this should fail, CP should tell userid vdev not linked, R/W by VMA Note that there are no commands to dynamically the XLINK definitions as those found in SYSTEM CONFIG, and IPL is required. You don't need to define the volumes as shared, but BEWARE: - The problem is MDC: when MDC is active for a volume, CP may find request data in storage and may no go to the disk fo satisfy an I/O. Hence is an update took place in VMA This risk there is when volumes are dynamically added to the sytem, they are per default eligable for MDC. So to play safe you should set MDC OFF if you care a bit about your data. I recall that Perry did some work in the ancient past to do the MDC ON/OFF via ISFC. Berry is looking at Linux disks. In that case there is no legitimate reason to have users read and write at the same time. A few MDC FLUSH in the PROFILE EXEC might be good enough to wipe out trails of a previous incarnation. Bonus points for using PROP to capture the logoff and flush the disks... Rob
Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E
Thank you to both Dennis and Mark. I had the mount commands in my DTCPARMS, they just weren't syntactically correct. Everything appears to be fine now... Mark Wiggins -Original Message- From: Mark Cibula [mailto:cibul...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: New CMS based SSLSERV problem... DTCSSL300E Dennis (and Mark W) -- Apologies for the somewhat duplicate posting - ran into a browser timeout whilst putting my posting together.. I would like to suggest how one can implement DTCPARMS server customizations (building on Dennis' post) to better isolate them, and to lessen the impact of changes to the IBM DTCPARMS file itself. * Use this 'override' entry in the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file: * (Because the 'parms' value is overridden, the :parm. tag/value from IBM * DTCPARMS needs to first be duplicated and then modified within this * (SYSTEM DTCPARMS) file so as not to lose the Keyfile information. :nick.SSLSERV:type.server :class.ssl :Admin_ID_list.TCPMAINT GSKADMIN SYSPROG1 SYSPROG2 :parms.KEYFile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb MAXSESSIONS 30 EXEMPT LOW With the above ':type.server' entry in place, a ':nick.ssl :type.class' entry should no longer be necessary within SYSTEM DTCPARMS. The 'class' entry in the IBM DTCPARMS will provide the remainder of the needed tags/values. Granted, with the significant change to the ssl 'class' with 540, having done something similar to the above for a 530 SSL 'server' entry, one might still have encountered some problems, since the old/new tags had little in common... The type of change I suggest above is meant simply to illustrate how to keep customizations separate from the (IBM) supplied defaults. (And, we do encourage this same type of thing on our own test systems so fewer servers go 'bump' as things are changed). -- Regards, Mark Cibula
Re: Setup XLINK
If you use anything larger than a 3390-3 - I believe you'll need the first 9 cylinders (0-8) reserved for XLINK data. Not too bad if you're just doing the z/VM volumes - some extent rearranging -- but it can be a major effort if volumes with Linux data are included. Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hello Listers, I am looking into XLINK. The main goal is to be able to determine if a minidiskextent on DASD is already in R/W use on a different VM. This way we could provide for an easy switch for linux guests from one VM to another. We do not setup the full CSE here. SPOOL and DIRMAINT are just for their own VM image. Now I have found that I need: - XLINK_SYSTEM_INCLUDE for every VM system. - XLINK_VOLUME_INCLUDE for every DASD volume. - XLINK FORMAT the DASD to enable the volume for XLINK usage. Do I need more? For instance, it could be that there are multiple minidisks on one volume and that the linuxguests in question are spread across the 4 VM images. Should the DASD be set to SHARED for this? As I understand it linux doesn't require the disks to be SHARED but I'd like to be sure. Are there any other issues I should prepare for? TIA, Berry.
Puzzle or what?
On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin _ Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009
Re: Puzzle or what?
My guess is that the 52535 number indicates the number of 80 byte records.. but when you go into XEDIT, you're seeing the number of records with CR/LF (variable length perhaps?) being honored. Scott On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Suleiman Shahin s_s_sha...@hotmail.comwrote: On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin -- Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out.http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns%21503D1D86EBB2B53C%212285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009
Re: Puzzle or what?
Hello Suleiman Shahin, Your defaults are set to low. VM command DEFAULTS will show you what is set. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Suleiman Shahin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Puzzle or what? On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin Windows Live(tm) Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-B log-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_03200 9
Re: Puzzle or what?
It does depend on what the format of the file is. A reader or punch accepts cards, that is 80 bytes per record (RDR also handles console prt files, but that's a deviation to the architecture, 80 should it be, no more no less. What if you want to punch a file wide file (SENDFILE uses a PUCNH file under the covers). - PUNCH WIDE FILE A -- refused, erromessage as result - DISK DUMP WIDE FILE -- OK, DISK DUMP will reformat wide file in 80 byte records only DISK LOAD knows how to reconstruct - SENDFILE (or better NETDATA SEND which is behind) will also reformat the wide file in 80 byte records, understood by CMS and TSO's RECEIVE command (or better the RECEIVE EXEC in CMS, which uses NETDATA) Naturally, also PIPE has methods to unravel spool files. And not too old copies of PEEK may use PIPE instead of NETDATA to unravel a RDR file. To see the raw spool data - CP¨CH RDR NOHOLD KEEP - PIPE READER FILE ! RAW DATA A And what you you get: an 81 byte wide file: the first column is a machine control character instructing your real the punch device what to do (produce a card or skip it). Summary - a PRT or console: the nbr of records in the spool matches what PEEK (FOR * will tell - other files; it depends 2009/3/17 Edward M Martin emar...@aultman.com: Hello Suleiman Shahin, Your defaults are set to low. VM command DEFAULTS will show you what is set. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Suleiman Shahin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Puzzle or what? On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Puzzle or what?
And yet one more possibility: the file is in NetData format. NetData format is what SENDFILE creates, taking files with long records, breaking them into 80-byte records (including some control information at the start of each). When you PEEK the file in the reader, or RECEIVE it to disk, the NetData format is 'unraveled' into the same format as it was before being packed up by SENDFILE. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Suleiman Shahin s_s_sha...@hotmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/17/2009 09:27 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Puzzle or what? On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin Windows Live? Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Are you sure the disk is R/W and that it is the right size? I tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real book). You mean the missing 22cc and 2cf1 disks, or something else? That *was* sort of annoying, wasn't it? Not hard if you already have an idea of what is being done to construct the 2d-level primer system, but if you were a newbie, I can see how it would leave you baffled. And of course if you are (shock, horror) editing your user directory by hand then just adding the appropriate disks could be much harder than it was for me. If it hasn't been done already, could MAINT's default directory entry please be updated to include , 2CF1, 22CC ? Surely the HOPE is that a z/VM customer will go on to install a later version someday Adam
Re: Puzzle or what?
Sure, your defaults could be set to low as Ed suggested, but the default low where you would not see everything is like 200, so I don't think that is the problem. My guess is that Scott's note came close: But the format is NETDATA rather than CR/LF per se. If the file was sent in NETDATA format, then RDRLIST will of course show the number of 80 byte records punched to you, but the original lines in the file would have spanned some 80-byte records and been split from other 80-byte records and could be ANY number of original records when PEEKed. -- R; On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Suleiman Shahin s_s_sha...@hotmail.com wrote: On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out.
Re: SEGGEN failure
Shimon, VMSES/E is a great tool, but the clarity is not quite the best at some times It seems that error message from building segments is a particular weak point to me, too. One command that has helped me understand VMSES/E a lot better (until I forget again!) is one I use after any VMSES/E command failure, and when trying to better understand what files it has just changed: LISTFILE * * * (TODAY If you are (perhaps rightly) concerned about changed files on disk that are no longer accessed, but still LINKed, then the FILEFILE EXEC which I've posted here before can perform the same quick search function on even those disks not currently accessed via: FINDFILE * * * (TODAY ISO All the changed files (on accessed disks) will show right up, making the detective work somewhat less tedious. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Setup XLINK
Also: for a 3390-9 you can move the CSE area. When you define the volume in SYSTEM CONFIG you can include a parameter that indicates the starting cylinder of the CSE are - this means you can move it to the end of a volume if you want to CSE protect a volume that already has minidisks on it. The XLINK_VOLUME_INCLUDE statement also takes globbed volsers. You can specify VMX* to indicate all those volumes are protected, but beware: CP won't bring a volume online if its volser matches something in the XLINK_VOLUME_INCLUDE list but the volume does not have a CSE area on it. Also - don't CSE protect the first 0-9 cylinders of a VM IPL Volume - the CSE area will overwrite some of the high tracks on cylinder 0 that contain parts of the SALIPL loader. You have to relocate the CSE area to somewhere else on a VM IPL volume. Ask me how I know this... -- Jay Brenneman
Re: Puzzle or what?
On the z/VM download page there is a very good package XBROWSE that does not use XEDIT or large amounts of storage to 'peek' at large files.. Many very nice features i.e. book marking the file you are browsing.. Take a look at it I think it is pretty good. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? Hello Suleiman Shahin, Your defaults are set to low. VM command DEFAULTS will show you what is set. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Suleiman Shahin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Puzzle or what? On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin _ Windows Live(tm) Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 it out.
Re: Puzzle or what?
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 10:51 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that Scott's note came close: But the format is NETDATA rather than CR/LF per se. If the file was sent in NETDATA format, then RDRLIST will of course show the number of 80 byte records punched to you, but the original lines in the file would have spanned some 80-byte records and been split from other 80-byte records and could be ANY number of original records when PEEKed. Which is to say, if PEEK can't show you the entire formatted content of the spool file, you will get a message. If you aren't getting a message, Don't Worry - Be Happy: You're seeing everything there is to see. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
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Re: Puzzle or what?
I have to accept Alan's statement! I played with the file a few ways! Receive receives the short file same as peek. The pipe from Kris loaded the count indicated, but mangled the file beyond recognition :(- Peek did not have any complaints only showed the record size was 89.. Thanks all! Suleiman Shahin Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:13:36 -0400 From: alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Which is to say, if PEEK can't show you the entire formatted content of the spool file, you will get a message. If you aren't getting a message, Don't Worry - Be Happy: You're seeing everything there is to see. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott _ Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009
Re: Puzzle or what?
You might want to look at SHOW. I find that nice for READER files as well as disk files. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? On the z/VM download page there is a very good package XBROWSE that does not use XEDIT or large amounts of storage to 'peek' at large files.. Many very nice features i.e. book marking the file you are browsing.. Take a look at it I think it is pretty good. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? Hello Suleiman Shahin, Your defaults are set to low. VM command DEFAULTS will show you what is set. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Suleiman Shahin Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Puzzle or what? On zVM 5.3, I have in my CMS RDR Queue a file with 52535 records but when I peek it, I only see 46182. My defined storage is 256M and my effective Peek command is Peek 2345 (for * Why Can't I see the rest of the file? Thanks. Suleiman Shahin Windows Live(tm) Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-B log-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_03200 9
Re: SEGGEN failure
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 11:01 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: VMSES/E is a great tool, but the clarity is not quite the best at some times It seems that error message from building segments is a particular weak point to me, too. Please report problems with servicing/installing z/VM to the Support Center. If there is message whose documentation is unclear or there is no way to determine the cause of an error, we need to know. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Are you sure the disk is R/W and that it is the right size? I tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real book). You mean the missing 22cc and 2cf1 disks, or something else? That *was* sort of annoying, wasn't it? Not hard if you already have an idea of what is being done to construct the 2d-level primer system, but if you were a newbie, I can see how it would leave you baffled. And of course if you are (shock, horror) editing your user directory by hand then just adding the appropriate disks could be much harder than it was for me. Yes, it was! Enough for me to actually file a RCF to tell them that the summary had almost all the step, except missing this one. And no indication as that it was not complete. I'm not sure that had the effect I was hoping for. After a few false starts, I ended up using count lines | cons instead of eckdrest to find out how large the disk was supposed to be. It really does not have to be in MAINT - you don't want to run the 2nd level system in MAINT anyway, so why mess with things. It's also only needed briefly in the process, so for me 3 T-disks would be fine. And in theory when you ship the GA of z/VM 5.4 you don't know upfront how large the payload for those disks will be in the next release... And I don't think you really need the three disks - it could have been enough just to ship a single disk to bootstrap the process. Rob
Re: Puzzle or what?
Apparently I wan't clear enough in my append My PIPE was meant to show how a RAW RDR file looks like. PIPE didn't mangle anything, it shows the mess created by SENDFILE, exactly as it sits in the VM spool. Not a complete mess, because PEEK, RECEIVE, NETDATA, ... know how to unmangle. If SENDFILE would not create that mess, it could never send file wider than 80 bytes in the spool. 2009/3/17 Suleiman Shahin s_s_sha...@hotmail.com: I have to accept Alan's statement! I played with the file a few ways! Receive receives the short file same as peek. The pipe from Kris loaded the count indicated, but mangled the file beyond recognition :(- Peek did not have any complaints only showed the record size was 89.. Thanks all! Suleiman Shahin Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:13:36 -0400 From: alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Which is to say, if PEEK can't show you the entire formatted content of the spool file, you will get a message. If you aren't getting a message, Don't Worry - Be Happy: You're seeing everything there is to see. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. Check it out. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: It really does not have to be in MAINT - you don't want to run the 2nd level system in MAINT anyway, so why mess with things. It's also only needed briefly in the process, so for me 3 T-disks would be fine. And in theory when you ship the GA of z/VM 5.4 you don't know upfront how large the payload for those disks will be in the next release... And I don't think you really need the three disks - it could have been enough just to ship a single disk to bootstrap the process. I would be surprised if /22CC ever needed to be anything other than 5 cyls. I made a 120-cyl 2CF1 because I assumed it was a shadow CF1 and that's 120 cyls on my 5.3 system. I agree that T-disk would be fine, and, yes, it seems as if putting that all on the same disk would make life easier. Adam
Re: SEGGEN failure
Yes, note SEGGEN, it has been painful since day one. I no longer had problems since the day I had my own front-end (BLDSEG EXEC), it releases most minidisks and segments 'PIPE (end ?)', 'Command QUERY ACCESSED|Drop 1', '| NFind S|NFind Y|NFind A|NFind B|NFind D'||, '| Spec W4 1 1-* 5', '|F: Find DIR|Spec /ACCESS/ 1 W6 nw W2 nw', '|J: Faninany |STEM ACC.|SPEC /RELEASE/ 1 W3 nw.1|COMMAND|CONS', '?F:|Spec /ACCESS/ 1 W1 nw W2 nw|J:' /* Can not execute drops and releases from within pipe as we destroy PIPE itself... */ 'PIPE (end ?) COMMAND NUCXMAP|DROP|NFIND EAGRTPRC|NFIND CMSRTPRC', '|NFIND LINEWRT|NFIND TYPLIN' ||, '|SPECS /NUCXDROP/ 1 W1 NW|STACK', '?COMMAND QUERY SEGMENT|DROP 1|NFIND REXX370', '|SPEC /SEGMENT RELEASE/ 1 W2 NW|STACK' do queued() ; parse pull cmd ; say cmd ; cmd ; end ... at the end: 'PIPE STEM ACC.|COMMAND|CONS' 2009/3/17 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 11:01 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: VMSES/E is a great tool, but the clarity is not quite the best at some times It seems that error message from building segments is a particular weak point to me, too. Please report problems with servicing/installing z/VM to the Support Center. If there is message whose documentation is unclear or there is no way to determine the cause of an error, we need to know. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Please tell me I did something stupid
I just installed a virgin z/VM 5.4 with all products on filepool rather than on minidisk. I only tweaked it enough to get a TCPIP stack up and running so that I could FTP the RSU over to it, DETERSE it, and apply service. I've done literally nothing else to the system. 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 2 SERVICE USERID: MAINT 3 4 Date: 03/17/09Time: 15:30:04 5 6 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL RPTF0168 7 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started 8 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started 9 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5VMLEN40%LE 00010 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for SERVP2P LE 00011 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C4 as 4C4 with the link mode MR 00012 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C4 not linked; not in CP directory 00013 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C4 4C4 MR , failed with 00014 SV:return code 107 00015 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C2 as 4C2 with the link mode MR 00016 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C2 not linked; not in CP directory 00017 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C2 4C2 MR , failed with 00018 SV:return code 107 00019 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4D2 as 4D2 with the link mode MR 00020 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04D2 not linked; not in CP directory 00021 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4D2 4D2 MR , failed with 00022 SV:return code 107 00023 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A6 as 4A6 with the link mode MR 00024 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A6 not linked; not in CP directory 00025 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A6 4A6 MR , failed with 00026 SV:return code 107 00027 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A4 as 4A4 with the link mode MR 00028 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A4 not linked; not in CP directory 00029 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A4 4A4 MR , failed with 00030 SV:return code 107 00031 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A2 as 4A2 with the link mode MR 00032 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A2 not linked; not in CP directory 00033 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A2 4A2 MR , failed with 00034 SV:return code 107 00035 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4B2 as 4B2 with the link mode MR 00036 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04B2 not linked; not in CP directory 00037 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4B2 4B2 MR , failed with 00038 SV:return code 107 00039 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed unsuccessfully 00040 SV:VMFSUI1965E The command, VMFSETUP, failed with return code 100 when 00041 SV:issued with the argument(s): SERVP2P LE (LINK NOPROMPT 00042 SV:RETAIN D 00043 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for DETACH LE 00044 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed successfully 00045 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed unsuccessfully 00046 ST:VMFSUI1211I An Initial Restart Record has been created for package 00047 ST:RPTF0168 in the System-Level Restart Table 00048 SV:VMFSRV1965E The command, VMFSUFIN, failed with return code 100 when 00049 SV:issued with the argument(s): ALL ( NOPROMPT RSUENV 00050 SV:RPTF0168 00051 WN:VMFSRV2310W Service restart file, SERVICE $RESTART A, has been created 00052 WN:due to errors. Correct the errors, and restart SERVICE 00053 WN:using the following command: 00054 WN:SERVICE RESTART RPTF0168 00055 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed unsuccessfully Someone please say Adam, you're an idiot, you obviously forgot the somethingorother and not Oh! Wow. Yeah, you're right! The RSU doesn't actually work on filepool systems. Reinstalling the system from scratch--while not technically challenging--*will* tick me off. Adam
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
The component is cpsfs or cmssfs ... Not cp or cms which are for minidisks. On 3/17/09 3:36 PM, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: I just installed a virgin z/VM 5.4 with all products on filepool rather than on minidisk. I only tweaked it enough to get a TCPIP stack up and running so that I could FTP the RSU over to it, DETERSE it, and apply service. I've done literally nothing else to the system. 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 2 SERVICE USERID: MAINT 3 4 Date: 03/17/09Time: 15:30:04 5 6 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL RPTF0168 7 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started 8 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started 9 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5VMLEN40%LE 00010 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for SERVP2P LE 00011 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C4 as 4C4 with the link mode MR 00012 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C4 not linked; not in CP directory 00013 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C4 4C4 MR , failed with 00014 SV:return code 107 00015 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C2 as 4C2 with the link mode MR 00016 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C2 not linked; not in CP directory 00017 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C2 4C2 MR , failed with 00018 SV:return code 107 00019 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4D2 as 4D2 with the link mode MR 00020 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04D2 not linked; not in CP directory 00021 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4D2 4D2 MR , failed with 00022 SV:return code 107 00023 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A6 as 4A6 with the link mode MR 00024 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A6 not linked; not in CP directory 00025 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A6 4A6 MR , failed with 00026 SV:return code 107 00027 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A4 as 4A4 with the link mode MR 00028 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A4 not linked; not in CP directory 00029 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A4 4A4 MR , failed with 00030 SV:return code 107 00031 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A2 as 4A2 with the link mode MR 00032 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A2 not linked; not in CP directory 00033 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A2 4A2 MR , failed with 00034 SV:return code 107 00035 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4B2 as 4B2 with the link mode MR 00036 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04B2 not linked; not in CP directory 00037 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4B2 4B2 MR , failed with 00038 SV:return code 107 00039 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed unsuccessfully 00040 SV:VMFSUI1965E The command, VMFSETUP, failed with return code 100 when 00041 SV:issued with the argument(s): SERVP2P LE (LINK NOPROMPT 00042 SV:RETAIN D 00043 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for DETACH LE 00044 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed successfully 00045 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed unsuccessfully 00046 ST:VMFSUI1211I An Initial Restart Record has been created for package 00047 ST:RPTF0168 in the System-Level Restart Table 00048 SV:VMFSRV1965E The command, VMFSUFIN, failed with return code 100 when 00049 SV:issued with the argument(s): ALL ( NOPROMPT RSUENV 00050 SV:RPTF0168 00051 WN:VMFSRV2310W Service restart file, SERVICE $RESTART A, has been created 00052 WN:due to errors. Correct the errors, and restart SERVICE 00053 WN:using the following command: 00054 WN:SERVICE RESTART RPTF0168 00055 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed unsuccessfully Someone please say Adam, you're an idiot, you obviously forgot the somethingorother and not Oh! Wow. Yeah, you're right! The RSU doesn't actually work on filepool systems. Reinstalling the system from scratch--while not technically challenging--*will* tick me off. Adam
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: The component is cpsfs or cmssfs ... Not cp or cms which are for minidisks. I just tried to run SERVICE ALL RPTF0168 Which, you know, *should* be able to figure it out. It has in the past. Adam
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
Adam, It looks like SERVICE is trying to service LE instead of LESFS. There are a couple of items in the PSP bucket that have to do with SFS, but the descriptions aren't an exact match for this problem. Did you read all of the ZVM540 subsets and do what they said? It's certainly possible to apply an RSU to a system with maintenance in SFS. I've done it for z/VM 5.4.0. I didn't even customize the system for TCP/IP first. I used an ISFC link to read the RSU file from a first-level system. Dennis O'Brien 39,516 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:36 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Please tell me I did something stupid I just installed a virgin z/VM 5.4 with all products on filepool rather than on minidisk. I only tweaked it enough to get a TCPIP stack up and running so that I could FTP the RSU over to it, DETERSE it, and apply service. I've done literally nothing else to the system. 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 2 SERVICE USERID: MAINT 3 4 Date: 03/17/09Time: 15:30:04 5 6 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL RPTF0168 7 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started 8 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started 9 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5VMLEN40%LE 00010 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for SERVP2P LE 00011 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C4 as 4C4 with the link mode MR 00012 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C4 not linked; not in CP directory 00013 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C4 4C4 MR , failed with 00014 SV:return code 107 00015 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4C2 as 4C2 with the link mode MR 00016 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04C2 not linked; not in CP directory 00017 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4C2 4C2 MR , failed with 00018 SV:return code 107 00019 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4D2 as 4D2 with the link mode MR 00020 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04D2 not linked; not in CP directory 00021 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4D2 4D2 MR , failed with 00022 SV:return code 107 00023 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A6 as 4A6 with the link mode MR 00024 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A6 not linked; not in CP directory 00025 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A6 4A6 MR , failed with 00026 SV:return code 107 00027 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A4 as 4A4 with the link mode MR 00028 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A4 not linked; not in CP directory 00029 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A4 4A4 MR , failed with 00030 SV:return code 107 00031 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4A2 as 4A2 with the link mode MR 00032 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04A2 not linked; not in CP directory 00033 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4A2 4A2 MR , failed with 00034 SV:return code 107 00035 ST:VMFSET2204I Linking MAINT 4B2 as 4B2 with the link mode MR 00036 SV:HCPLNM107E MAINT 04B2 not linked; not in CP directory 00037 SV:VMFSET1965E The command, CP LINK MAINT 4B2 4B2 MR , failed with 00038 SV:return code 107 00039 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed unsuccessfully 00040 SV:VMFSUI1965E The command, VMFSETUP, failed with return code 100 when 00041 SV:issued with the argument(s): SERVP2P LE (LINK NOPROMPT 00042 SV:RETAIN D 00043 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing started for DETACH LE 00044 ST:VMFSET2760I VMFSETUP processing completed successfully 00045 ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed unsuccessfully 00046 ST:VMFSUI1211I An Initial Restart Record has been created for package 00047 ST:RPTF0168 in the System-Level Restart Table 00048 SV:VMFSRV1965E The command, VMFSUFIN, failed with return code 100 when 00049 SV:issued with the argument(s): ALL ( NOPROMPT RSUENV 00050 SV:RPTF0168 00051 WN:VMFSRV2310W Service restart file, SERVICE $RESTART A, has been created 00052 WN:due to errors. Correct the errors, and restart SERVICE 00053 WN:using the following command: 00054 WN:SERVICE RESTART RPTF0168 00055 ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed unsuccessfully Someone please say Adam, you're an idiot, you obviously forgot the somethingorother and not Oh! Wow. Yeah, you're right! The RSU doesn't actually work on filepool systems. Reinstalling the system from scratch--while not technically challenging--*will* tick me off. Adam
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:53 PM, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: Adam, It looks like SERVICE is trying to service LE instead of LESFS. There are a couple of items in the PSP bucket that have to do with SFS, but the descriptions aren't an exact match for this problem. Did you read all of the ZVM540 subsets and do what they said? All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. U. I didn't run instvm dvd after doing the installation. Hmmm. Let's see if that does the trick. The messages look very promising. yeah, that was it. I did in fact do something stupid, and that was to not actually run instvm dvd after the DVD install. Thanks! Service is proceeding now. Adam
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Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) BOO! HISS!!! I will *read* a one page guide. Although I will apparently SKIP WHOLE STEPS, like INSTVM DVD. a 300 page manual? Not so much. So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't think I've ever actually used those segments, so I doubt it matters. Adam
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
Umm -- how about 2 pages or 3 .. a foldout like all those 'quick start' guides I get with just about anything I purchase nowadays? There's got to be a happy medium between a single page and several hundred? (oops - and I see that Adam is maybe wondering the same?) Scott p.s. I'll even put up with a crib-free warning ;-) On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
OK, so now instead of reading some we will read nothing. After you have done something 20 times you do not need a 3000 page manual, you need something quick. I vote to keep them. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) BOO! HISS!!! I will *read* a one page guide. Although I will apparently SKIP WHOLE STEPS, like INSTVM DVD. a 300 page manual? Not so much. So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't think I've ever actually used those segments, so I doubt it matters. Adam - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't think I've ever actually used those segments, so I doubt it matters. Adam, I'll repeat my comment about the PSP bucket. This one is in there, although strangely, it's in the CP subset, not CMS. Dennis O'Brien 39,516 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 15:09 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Please tell me I did something stupid On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) BOO! HISS!!! I will *read* a one page guide. Although I will apparently SKIP WHOLE STEPS, like INSTVM DVD. a 300 page manual? Not so much. So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't think I've ever actually used those segments, so I doubt it matters. Adam
Re: FW: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 14 Mar 2009 to 15 Mar 2009 (#2009-72)
No prob, Phil. I suspect a lot of us old BAL-heads enjoyed it. -Chip- On 3/17/09 12:35 Phil Smith said: My apologies for that earlier post...misdirected.
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best thing since sliced bread! The only suggestion I would make would be to 'simplify'; them by completely separating the 1st level and 2nd level install instructions,. I find that skipping around the other parts causes more problems than anything else. Mike C. M. (Mike) Hammock Sr. Technical Advisor IBM System Z Solutions Mainline Information Systems (404) 643-3258 mike.hamm...@mainline.com Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us. ibm.com To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System ib...@listserv.u Subject ARK.EDU Re: Please tell me I did something stupid 03/17/2009 06:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the Service Procedure paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this illustrates, they have outlived their usefulness and now pose a clear and present danger to society. (Please don't leave a copy of a Quick Install Guide in a crib - choking hazard.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
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Ditto here. Installing VMWare is a 90 page booklet. The one page install was a great comparison. On 3/17/09 9:45 PM, Mike Hammock mike.hamm...@mainline.com wrote: I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best thing since sliced bread!
Re: Puzzle or what?
I'm not sure how the file originated, but I think this explanation makes sense. I had no limit on number of records peeked. (Peek (for *) Thanks every one. Suleiman Shahin Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:46:30 -0500 From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: Puzzle or what? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU And yet one more possibility: the file is in NetData format. _ Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009
Re: Please tell me I did something stupid
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 09:45 EDT, Mike Hammock mike.hamm...@mainline.com wrote: I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best thing since sliced bread! The only suggestion I would make would be to 'simplify'; them by completely separating the 1st level and 2nd level install instructions,. I find that skipping around the other parts causes more problems than anything else. I appreciate the sentiments. We are not particularly happy about getting rid of them, but their time had come. In order to keep it to one page, the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper because the font was too small, both from an IBM printing standards perspective and based on complaints from sysprogs. Non-standard = more costly to produce. We will instead supply some sort of abbreviated installation/service procedure as part of the book. It won't skip steps, but neither will it have the voluminous explanations of the primary text. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
