FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved
Well, it seems that our missing interrupts were being caused by a bug in the EMC-microcode, in combination with z/VM 5.4. Eventually, last Friday afternoon, it did kill our production (and me too, feeling better now, thanks). Upgrading to the latest EMC-microcode apparantly fixed it. But to be fair I must say this was the first time in 15+ years that the EMC-boxes caused a serious mainframe-related problem, and EMC-support was very quick to repair it. If you're planning to be or already are running z/VM 5.4 on a multi-LPAR System z with shared dasd in an EMC Symmetrix DMX, then make shure you have that latest EMC-microcode. Thanks, Geert. __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 18:16 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 An update: This seems to be related to missing interrupts for the volume(540RES) where the CMS IPL minidisk resides. Almost exactly 5 minutes after I issued IPL 190, the IPL came through. Better late than never :-) But the IPL worked eventually, which is quite a relief. I repeated the IPL a couple of times, and every time I had to wait 5 minutes. The 5 minute interval is twice our MITIME interval for DASD (2 x 2 minutes and 30 seconds). If I set MITIME to 5 seconds for volume 540RES then I always have to wait 10 seconds before I get the CMS IPL-headermessage after an IPL 190. That's quite a bit quicker than before it's not like it's supposed to be. So it seems that 2 missing interrupts have to be processed before the IPL 190 continues. I still have no idea what could be causing this... Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 16:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 Hi all, 10 days ago we activated z/VM 5.4 in production. All worked really well. But yesterday when I logged on MAINT I noticed that CMS didn't IPL. It now seems that IPL 190 no longer works (in any VM-userid). After entering the IPL 190 command (or just logging on to MAINT) nothing happens. From that point on other users that issue IPL 190 or IPL CMS will hang as well. A LINK to a minidisk on the same volume (540RES) will hang as well. It seems that the whole volume is being locked. We can solve the hang by issuing #CP IPL CMS in the machine where the IPL 190 was issued (IPL CMS still works fine). Other users can then proceed as well. When I do an IPL 190 in user MAINT, Performance Toolkit shows this for USER MAINT: ... Device activity and status: 0009 3215 .0 000C 254R CL *, EOFNOH NCNT 000D 254P CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT000E 3211 CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT 0112 3390 .0 B001,RR, 65Cyl,---00123 3390 .0 B03C,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0124 3390 .0 B03D,WR,3339Cyl,---00125 3390 .0 B03E,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0190 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 107Cyl,BUSY 0191 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 175Cyl,---0 ... Please note that 190 is marked BUSY. It stays that way until I issue #CP IPL CMS in user MAINT. I also tried an IPL 490 in user MAINT and that hangs as well. I copied MAINT 190 using DDR to another volume as minidisk A190 and issued IPL A190 and that hangs as well. I then made this minidisk available to another VM-system, IPLed it, and that works fine. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify postmas...@vanbreda.be This footnote also confirms that this email has been checked for the presence of viruses. Informatica J.Van Breda Co NV BTW BE 0427 908 174
Re: BFS SSLSERV question
On my 2nd level system installed from the IBM ddr and then the SSL PTF, when I try what Richard suggested, I get the following: ls -la /etc Erwxrwxrwx 1 maint system 21 Oct 2 15:55 /etc - /../VMBFS:VMSYSU:E TC $ Is that normal? Why is it VMSYSU? I would have expected something in VMSYS. Jim--Still confused Richard Troth wrote: A good pre-req test would be to confirm that openvm shell works, prior to adding any other products to BFS land. You could then ls -la /etc from that shell and see if "gskadm" actually exists. So ... just addressing this one error message, when a filespace (other than the root) gets mounted, the mount point directory must already exist. (Should typically be empty.) And, of course, all this stuff is CaSe SeNsItIvE. I hope this helps. -- R; On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu wrote: I have a dumb question and a long posting. Sorry. We have SSLSERV working on our 2nd lvl z/VM 5.4 system, the one I loaded from the IBM DDR. I always bring up a new release on a 2nd level id and then move code piece by piece to our production systems. Almost everything is moved, but I am up against a brick wall with SSLSERV. I think it is a problem with BFS and my total lack of knowledge about BFS. I've never used BFS, so I suspect that I'm just missing something very obvious to anyone who knows anything at all about BFS. The GSKADMIN and SSLSERV userid's are defined along with the RACF SECURITY class as it was in the RACF db from IBM. GSKADMIN and SSLSERV are connected to SECURITY. I've done the "rac alu sslserv ovm(uid(7))", "rac alu gskadmin ovm(uid(6))", and "rac alg security ovm(gid(7))". The directory entries for GSKADMIN and SSLSERV have the following POSIXINFO entries, respectively: POSIXINFO UID 6 GNAME security POSIXINFO UID 7 GNAME security Where I seem to be having a problem is in following the step by step procedures in chapter 20 of TCP/IP Plng and Cust. Step 4B sends me to Ch 15 of the TCPIP LDAP Admin. Guide. When I logon to GSKADMIN to use GSKKYMAN to create a new database, I get the messages: Profile..: Setting up BFS environment... Profile..: Determining what is currently mounted... Nothing is mounted Profile..: Mounting root file system... Profile..: Mounting GSKSSLDB file space at: /etc/gskadm/ Object does not exist: '/etc/gskadm/' Profile-- Unexpected error from command: OPENVM MOUNT /../VMBFS:VMSYS:GSKSSLDB/ /etc/gskadm/ Profile..: RC = 28 Ready; T=0.04/0.07 09:16:20 which I guess are reasonable because I haven't created the database yet. GSKKYMAN gives me the database menu and my replies are as follows: Enter key database name (press ENTER to return to menu): /etc/gskADM/KeyDBT.kdb Enter database password (press ENTER to return to menu): Re-enter database password: Enter password expiration in days (press ENTER for no expiration): Enter database record length (press ENTER to use 5000): Unable to create database /etc/gskADM/KeyDBT.kdb. Status 0x0335303f - Database open failed. Press ENTER to continue. This is the point, above, where the results are different from doing this on the 2nd lvl system from IBM. DTCPARMS has the following :nick.SSL entry: :nick.SSL :type.class :name.SSL daemon :command.VMSSL :runtime.C :diskwarn.YES :Admin_ID_list.JAB282 MAB GSKADMIN :memory.256M :mixedcaseparms.YES :mount. /../VMBFS:VMSYS:ROOT/ / , /../VMBFS:VMSYS:SSLSERV/ /tmp , /../VMBFS:VMSYS:GSKSSLDB/ /etc/gskadm I'm sure that what is wrong to anyone who knows anything about BFS, but that excludes me. I would appreciate any help. Jim -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu
Re: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved
If possible, could you please give a little more detail. What model of EMC DMX and what level of microcode? Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dieltiens Geert Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved Well, it seems that our missing interrupts were being caused by a bug in the EMC-microcode, in combination with z/VM 5.4. Eventually, last Friday afternoon, it did kill our production (and me too, feeling better now, thanks). Upgrading to the latest EMC-microcode apparantly fixed it. But to be fair I must say this was the first time in 15+ years that the EMC-boxes caused a serious mainframe-related problem, and EMC-support was very quick to repair it. If you're planning to be or already are running z/VM 5.4 on a multi-LPAR System z with shared dasd in an EMC Symmetrix DMX, then make shure you have that latest EMC-microcode. Thanks, Geert. __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 18:16 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 An update: This seems to be related to missing interrupts for the volume(540RES) where the CMS IPL minidisk resides. Almost exactly 5 minutes after I issued IPL 190, the IPL came through. Better late than never :-) But the IPL worked eventually, which is quite a relief. I repeated the IPL a couple of times, and every time I had to wait 5 minutes. The 5 minute interval is twice our MITIME interval for DASD (2 x 2 minutes and 30 seconds). If I set MITIME to 5 seconds for volume 540RES then I always have to wait 10 seconds before I get the CMS IPL-headermessage after an IPL 190. That's quite a bit quicker than before it's not like it's supposed to be. So it seems that 2 missing interrupts have to be processed before the IPL 190 continues. I still have no idea what could be causing this... Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 16:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 Hi all, 10 days ago we activated z/VM 5.4 in production. All worked really well. But yesterday when I logged on MAINT I noticed that CMS didn't IPL. It now seems that IPL 190 no longer works (in any VM-userid). After entering the IPL 190 command (or just logging on to MAINT) nothing happens. From that point on other users that issue IPL 190 or IPL CMS will hang as well. A LINK to a minidisk on the same volume (540RES) will hang as well. It seems that the whole volume is being locked. We can solve the hang by issuing #CP IPL CMS in the machine where the IPL 190 was issued (IPL CMS still works fine). Other users can then proceed as well. When I do an IPL 190 in user MAINT, Performance Toolkit shows this for USER MAINT: ... Device activity and status: 0009 3215 .0 000C 254R CL *, EOFNOH NCNT 000D 254P CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT000E 3211 CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT 0112 3390 .0 B001,RR, 65Cyl,---00123 3390 .0 B03C,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0124 3390 .0 B03D,WR,3339Cyl,---00125 3390 .0 B03E,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0190 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 107Cyl,BUSY 0191 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 175Cyl,---0 ... Please note that 190 is marked BUSY. It stays that way until I issue #CP IPL CMS in user MAINT. I also tried an IPL 490 in user MAINT and that hangs as well. I copied MAINT 190 using DDR to another volume as minidisk A190 and issued IPL A190 and that hangs as well. I then made this minidisk available to another VM-system, IPLed it, and that works fine. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify postmas...@vanbreda.be This footnote also confirms that this email has been checked for the presence of viruses. Informatica J.Van Breda Co NV BTW BE 0427 908 174
Re: BFS SSLSERV question
2009/3/30 Jim Bohnsack jab...@cornell.edu: On my 2nd level system installed from the IBM ddr and then the SSL PTF, when I try what Richard suggested, I get the following: ls -la /etc Erwxrwxrwx 1 maintsystem21 Oct 2 15:55 /etc - /../VMBFS:VMSYSU:E TC $ Is that normal? Why is it VMSYSU? I would have expected something in VMSYS. Jim--Still confused VMSYS or VMSYSU? The filepool depends on what you mount. That can be defined in the CP directory, such as: USER KRIS ... PosixInfo UID 0 GNAME staff IWDIR /home/kris/ FSROOT '/../V', 'MBFS:SFS72:ROOT/' Or with an OPENVM MOUNT command executed by SYSPROF or PROFILE EXEC. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved
I would appreciate more info on this also we run EMC dasd here also ( DMX4 ) w/ multiple LPARS thanks Feller, Paul pfel...@aegonusa .com To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System ib...@listserv.u Subject ARK.EDU Re: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved 03/30/2009 09:17 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU If possible, could you please give a little more detail. What model of EMC DMX and what level of microcode? Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dieltiens Geert Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved Well, it seems that our missing interrupts were being caused by a bug in the EMC-microcode, in combination with z/VM 5.4. Eventually, last Friday afternoon, it did kill our production (and me too, feeling better now, thanks). Upgrading to the latest EMC-microcode apparantly fixed it. But to be fair I must say this was the first time in 15+ years that the EMC-boxes caused a serious mainframe-related problem, and EMC-support was very quick to repair it. If you're planning to be or already are running z/VM 5.4 on a multi-LPAR System z with shared dasd in an EMC Symmetrix DMX, then make shure you have that latest EMC-microcode. Thanks, Geert. __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 18:16 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 An update: This seems to be related to missing interrupts for the volume(540RES) where the CMS IPL minidisk resides. Almost exactly 5 minutes after I issued IPL 190, the IPL came through. Better late than never :-) But the IPL worked eventually, which is quite a relief. I repeated the IPL a couple of times, and every time I had to wait 5 minutes. The 5 minute interval is twice our MITIME interval for DASD (2 x 2 minutes and 30 seconds). If I set MITIME to 5 seconds for volume 540RES then I always have to wait 10 seconds before I get the CMS IPL-headermessage after an IPL 190. That's quite a bit quicker than before it's not like it's supposed to be. So it seems that 2 missing interrupts have to be processed before the IPL 190 continues. I still have no idea what could be causing this... Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 16:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 Hi all, 10 days ago we activated z/VM 5.4 in production. All worked really well. But yesterday when I logged on MAINT I noticed that CMS didn't IPL. It now seems that IPL 190 no longer works (in any VM-userid). After entering the IPL 190 command (or just logging on to MAINT) nothing happens. From that point on other users that issue IPL 190 or IPL CMS will hang as well. A LINK to a minidisk on the same volume (540RES) will hang as well. It seems that the whole volume is being locked. We can solve the hang by issuing #CP IPL CMS in the machine where the IPL 190 was issued (IPL CMS still works fine). Other users can then proceed as well. When I do an IPL 190 in user MAINT, Performance Toolkit shows this for USER MAINT: ... Device activity and status: 0009 3215 .0 000C 254R CL *, EOFNOH NCNT 000D 254P CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT000E 3211 CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT
Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling
Given A file pool consisting of 5 VDEV files on 5 separate real devices 2 cylinders per device 4096 block size When: a block chain is given Diag x'250' (async) for either read or write such that 4 blocks are written to or read from each track within the 5 files. Question(s): Does the 250 interface make any attempt to optimize I/O operations by constructing chained channel programs for single-track or consecutive-track multi-record writes/reads? If that is not the case, is such optimization achieved at a more basic level in z/VM real device I/O scheduling? Curiosity killed the In either of the above cases (that is if channel programs are chained based on intra-request I/O patterns), will either 250 or VM perform inter-request channel program chaining for multiple async requests targeting the same real device? Thanks --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis 0 ...living between the zeroes... 0
Re: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved
This was with a DMX 3 (ESCON attached), but I think it goes for DMX 4 as well. AFAIK we were running microcode level 5772 and still are, allthough we now run the most recent sublevel. But I can't give you more details than that, my collegue manages the EMC environment and he's not in at the moment... What I do know is that the EMC-fix that should solve the problem was fix 39925, dated november 2008. If your microde level is more recent than that, you probably have the fix already. Bye, Geert. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: maandag 30 maart 2009 15:17 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved If possible, could you please give a little more detail. What model of EMC DMX and what level of microcode? Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dieltiens Geert Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 - solved Well, it seems that our missing interrupts were being caused by a bug in the EMC-microcode, in combination with z/VM 5.4. Eventually, last Friday afternoon, it did kill our production (and me too, feeling better now, thanks). Upgrading to the latest EMC-microcode apparantly fixed it. But to be fair I must say this was the first time in 15+ years that the EMC-boxes caused a serious mainframe-related problem, and EMC-support was very quick to repair it. If you're planning to be or already are running z/VM 5.4 on a multi-LPAR System z with shared dasd in an EMC Symmetrix DMX, then make shure you have that latest EMC-microcode. Thanks, Geert. __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 18:16 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FW: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 An update: This seems to be related to missing interrupts for the volume(540RES) where the CMS IPL minidisk resides. Almost exactly 5 minutes after I issued IPL 190, the IPL came through. Better late than never :-) But the IPL worked eventually, which is quite a relief. I repeated the IPL a couple of times, and every time I had to wait 5 minutes. The 5 minute interval is twice our MITIME interval for DASD (2 x 2 minutes and 30 seconds). If I set MITIME to 5 seconds for volume 540RES then I always have to wait 10 seconds before I get the CMS IPL-headermessage after an IPL 190. That's quite a bit quicker than before it's not like it's supposed to be. So it seems that 2 missing interrupts have to be processed before the IPL 190 continues. I still have no idea what could be causing this... Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 __ From: Dieltiens Geert Sent: dinsdag 24 maart 2009 16:35 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL 190 hangs in zVM 5.4 Hi all, 10 days ago we activated z/VM 5.4 in production. All worked really well. But yesterday when I logged on MAINT I noticed that CMS didn't IPL. It now seems that IPL 190 no longer works (in any VM-userid). After entering the IPL 190 command (or just logging on to MAINT) nothing happens. From that point on other users that issue IPL 190 or IPL CMS will hang as well. A LINK to a minidisk on the same volume (540RES) will hang as well. It seems that the whole volume is being locked. We can solve the hang by issuing #CP IPL CMS in the machine where the IPL 190 was issued (IPL CMS still works fine). Other users can then proceed as well. When I do an IPL 190 in user MAINT, Performance Toolkit shows this for USER MAINT: ... Device activity and status: 0009 3215 .0 000C 254R CL *, EOFNOH NCNT 000D 254P CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT000E 3211 CL A, CO 01, NOH NCNT 0112 3390 .0 B001,RR, 65Cyl,---00123 3390 .0 B03C,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0124 3390 .0 B03D,WR,3339Cyl,---00125 3390 .0 B03E,WR,3339Cyl,---0 0190 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 107Cyl,BUSY 0191 3390 .0 B03C,WR, 175Cyl,---0 ... Please note that 190 is marked BUSY. It stays that way until I issue #CP IPL CMS in user MAINT. I also tried an IPL 490 in user MAINT and that hangs as well. I copied MAINT 190 using DDR to another volume as minidisk A190 and issued IPL A190 and that hangs as well. I then made this minidisk available to another VM-system, IPLed it, and that works fine. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you
Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling
The real question is, with today's disk arrays, what really is the optimal order of the CCWs in the chain? What may seem logical to you, who have apparently been around long enough to remember the days of each disk being a physical unit with cylinders and tracks being arranged sequentially, may not be optimal for disks that are striped across many physical disks. The VSSI products, VPARS and VTAPE, use the BLOCKIO routines and, if I am not mistaken, the VSSI code optimizes the channel programs by sorting them into sequential order before the DIAG is issued. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling Given A file pool consisting of 5 VDEV files on 5 separate real devices 2 cylinders per device 4096 block size When: a block chain is given Diag x'250' (async) for either read or write such that 4 blocks are written to or read from each track within the 5 files. Question(s): Does the 250 interface make any attempt to optimize I/O operations by constructing chained channel programs for single-track or consecutive-track multi-record writes/reads? If that is not the case, is such optimization achieved at a more basic level in z/VM real device I/O scheduling? Curiosity killed the In either of the above cases (that is if channel programs are chained based on intra-request I/O patterns), will either 250 or VM perform inter-request channel program chaining for multiple async requests targeting the same real device? Thanks --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis 0 ...living between the zeroes... 0
Re: VM 5.4 Maintenance
The following was pulled from the VM service tips page at http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/tips/ How to handle a missing PTF requisite during SERVICE processing. If SERVICE fails due to a missing PTF requisite you need to do the following to recover and restart SERVICE. The commands that follow are an example if you are applying service that you received electronically as a servlink envelope file. If using tape you would not use ENV on the VMFREC command and you would have to enter in the SERVICE RESTART command that appeared on the VMF2310W message from the original SERVICE failure. Order the missing requisites Issue the following commands from MAINT to receive the missing requisite PTFs you ordered. You will have to supply the compname for those PTFs. If you have more than one component in your missing requisite order you will have to repeat the following commands for each component. - VMFSETUP SERVP2P compname (LINK - VMFREC PPF SERVP2P compname ( ENV reqenvfilename Now you should be able to restart the original SERVICE that failed. - SERVICE RESTART orgenvfilename Gregory L Dyrda Wandschneider, Scott Scott.Wandschnei To d...@infocrossing. IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU com cc Sent by: The IBM z/VM OperatingSubject SystemVM 5.4 Maintenance ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU 03/27/2009 04:58 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU Can someone tell me how to correct VMFAPP2100E? VMFAPP2760I VMFAPPLY PROCESSING STARTED VMFAPP2106I APPLY LIST HCPVM CONTAINS 2 PTFS THAT NEED TO BE APPLIED AND 7 PTFS THAT ARE ALREADY APPLIED VMFAPP2100E PTF UM32620 COULD NOT BE APPLIED BECAUSE PTF UM32520 HAS NOT BEEN RECEIVED VMFAPP2102I 2 OF 2 PTFS PROCESSED VMFAPP2105I VMFAPPLY PROCESSING COMPLETED UNSUCCESSFULLY. Scott R Wandschneider - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!
Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling
Thank you. Let me clarify. The questions aren't about the device which, as you correctly observe, is now a software figment. All we see and can control on the System z end is the sub-channel. My thinking (and this may be entirely off base) is that scheduling a sub-channel request to write 25 blocks via a composite channel program is somehow better than 25 separate requests. Regards, Gary On 3/30/09 10:22 AM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: The real question is, with today's disk arrays, what really is the optimal order of the CCWs in the chain? What may seem logical to you, who have apparently been around long enough to remember the days of each disk being a physical unit with cylinders and tracks being arranged sequentially, may not be optimal for disks that are striped across many physical disks. The VSSI products, VPARS and VTAPE, use the BLOCKIO routines and, if I am not mistaken, the VSSI code optimizes the channel programs by sorting them into sequential order before the DIAG is issued. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling Given A file pool consisting of 5 VDEV files on 5 separate real devices 2 cylinders per device 4096 block size When: a block chain is given Diag x'250' (async) for either read or write such that 4 blocks are written to or read from each track within the 5 files. Question(s): Does the 250 interface make any attempt to optimize I/O operations by constructing chained channel programs for single-track or consecutive-track multi-record writes/reads? If that is not the case, is such optimization achieved at a more basic level in z/VM real device I/O scheduling? Curiosity killed the In either of the above cases (that is if channel programs are chained based on intra-request I/O patterns), will either 250 or VM perform inter-request channel program chaining for multiple async requests targeting the same real device? Thanks --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis 0 ...living between the zeroes... 0 --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Mantissa Corporation 1121 Edenton Street Birmingham, Alabama 35242-9257 0 ... living between the zeroes... 0 p: 205.968-3942 m: 205.218-3937 f: 205.968.3932 gary.den...@mantissa.com http://www.mantissa.com http://www.idovos.com
Build 100 of OpenSolaris for System z available for download.
The system images for build 100 of OpenSolaris for System z are available for download from: http://distribution.sinenomine.net/opensolaris Three packaging choices are available: VMARC, AWSTAPE and a DVD image. There is also a tarball containing gcc 4.3.3 which will install in /usr/local. All three images contain identical code, and they can be used with the installation instructions available in the package and on the web page mentioned above. Documentation is provided in the VMARC files in plain text, PDF and Bookmaster/READ format. You need a z/VM 5.3 or 5.4 system with APAR VM64466 (for z/VM 5.3) or VM64471 (for z/VM 5.4) applied, and you must be running on a z9 BC, EC, or z10 to use these images. They will *NOT* run natively (i.e. without z/VM) in an LPAR or on any form of 9672, z800, z890, z900, or z990. The images are authorized to run on standard engines or (as of the IBM announcement of November 18, 2008) on IFL processors. Support and education are available please contact Sine Nomine Associates for more details. This refresh adds a heap of new/refreshed Solaris commands and GNU packages, including the Sun IPS packaging system client and server. We plan to make future patches and updates available in IPS format to allow maintaining the system without complete replacement of the image. Some of the GNU packages include: apr-1.3.3 apr-util-1.3.4 autoconf-2.63 autogen-5.9.7 binutils-2.19 bison-2.4 coreutils-6.12 cvs-1.11.23 dejagnu-1.4.4 diffutils-2.8.4 expat-2.0.1 expect-5.43 flex-2.5.35 gettext-0.17 guile-1.8.5 gzip-1.3.12 m4-1.4.12 patch-2.5.4 perl-5.10 python-2.4 pyOpenSSL-0.8 sed-4.1.5 setuptools-0.6c9 subversion-1.5.5 tcl8.5.6 texinfo-4.13a gmp-4.2.1 mpfr-2.3.0 wget-1.11 zlib-1.2.3 Please send questions, comments or bug reports to the OpenSolaris for System z discussion list at sol-...@vm.marist.edu. We encourage anyone working with this code to subscribe (by sending mail to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the words SUBSCRIBE SOL-390 firstname lastname in the body of the message) and help us make OpenSolaris even better.
look at service machine cons log
Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
Re: look at service machine cons log
From a Class C machine issue: SEND CP service_machine_id CP SPOOL CONSOLE CLOSE your_id Then PEEK the file with FOR * unless you have SHOW. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: look at service machine cons log Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
Re: look at service machine cons log
You can use SET OBSERVER to see the consoles from your service machines. Also set OPERATOR as the secondary console in your directory entry (or via command) for the service machines. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: look at service machine cons log Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
Re: look at service machine cons log
You can use the TRACK program to look at the last buffer of an SVM's spoo led console log. If the console log has been closed, you can use the URLIST program to look at the list. If you have VMSPOOL installed, URLIST can invoke that to browse a log file. I have a change to URLIST to transfer t he file to me, invoke the SHOWFILE command to browse the file and then retur n it to its rightful owner/queue. VMSPOOL by itself can browse queues of spoolfiles and browse selected ones. VMSPOOL is a product you have to pay for, all the others are free. /Tom Kern On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:00:49 -0400, joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org wrote: Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
Re: look at service machine cons log
With extra software it is impossible, as mentioned you can close the consoles and have them sent to your RDR, but that means the console log is split in pieces. With SET SECUSER or SET OBSERVER you must set this beforehand to have everything send to e;g. OPERATOR. Beware that SET SECUSER has a side effect: serves that want to eat CP MSG's sent to them (to react to them) must not have a secondary user defined, because the secondary will get all messages instead of the server; SET OBSERVER does not have that problem. CA's VM:SPOOL is a software my former customer had: it allows you to browse spool files of other users, even the console logs that are still open. My URLIST transfers the file to your reader when you want to peek it, hence only closed spool files. 2009/3/30 joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org: Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: look at service machine cons log
On Monday, 03/30/2009 at 03:11 EDT, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: VMSPOOL is a product you have to pay for, all the others are free. IBM Automated Operations for z/VM has a very nice console viewing facility. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: look at service machine cons log
IBM Operations Manager for z/VM also allows you to look at live streaming copies of one userid's console, a group of consoles, or all consoles. Th is includes the ability to scroll and see historical information as well as a command line to enter commands back to that userid's console. Operations Manager is a priced product, based on the number of IFLs you have. Tracy Dean IBM On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:00:49 -0400, joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org wrote: Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them.Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
Re: look at service machine cons log
Yet another strategy is to create a service machine that collects the logs and archives them to disk. Spool the other service machines' consoles to it. With ours, the consoles may be closed as many times as you wish. It appends each arriving reader file to a file having the originating userid as the file name and the date as the file type. Each day, it closes all of the consoles at midnight and starts a fresh set of logs. Logs are retained according to tables we maintain. Some are allowed to default to 7 day retention while others are kept for as long as 6 months. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tracy Dean Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: look at service machine cons log IBM Operations Manager for z/VM also allows you to look at live streaming= copies of one userid's console, a group of consoles, or all consoles. Th= is includes the ability to scroll and see historical information as well as = a command line to enter commands back to that userid's console. Operations Manager is a priced product, based on the number of IFLs you = have. Tracy Dean IBM On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:00:49 -0400, joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org wrote: Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log?I am running several service machines and would like to see the cons log without logging onto them each individually to see them. Can this be done with operators con log? Best Regards, Joe.
VM 5.4 first/second level installation
List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Setting up the VM FTP server is not all that difficult - see the TCP/IP Planning and Install guide. Unless of course your company forbids FTP servers... You'll get much better throughput there compared to using the emulation tranfers as well as the ability to do lists. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: look at service machine cons log
A variation of this is to have your SVMs secusered/observered to a collec tor SVM that takes all incoming *MSG/*MSGALL traffic and stores in in daily files. The PIPESERV package from the IBM Downloads website is good for th is. Free, easy to install, self monitoring for number of saved files/utilizat ion of storage area, easy to link/filelist/browse. For closed spool files, the LOGGER package works well too but takes some administrative planning to get started. This is where my PerfTK reports g o for storage. /Tom Kern On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:48:03 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot e: Yet another strategy is to create a service machine that collects the logs and archives them to disk. Spool the other service machines' consoles to it. With ours, the consoles may be closed as many times as you wish. It appends each arriving reader file to a file having the originating userid as the file name and the date as the file type. Each day, it closes all of the consoles at midnight and starts a fresh set of logs. Logs are retained according to tables we maintain. Some are allowed to default to 7 day retention while others are kept for as long as 6 months. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Yes, as you say... We have some issues with the security group in setting up a FTP server. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/30/2009 04:08 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Setting up the VM FTP server is not all that difficult - see the TCP/IP Planning and Install guide. Unless of course your company forbids FTP servers... You'll get much better throughput there compared to using the emulation tranfers as well as the ability to do lists. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: look at service machine cons log
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Tracy Dean t...@us.ibm.com wrote: IBM Operations Manager for z/VM also allows you to look at live streaming copies of one userid's console, a group of consoles, or all consoles. This includes the ability to scroll and see historical information as well as a command line to enter commands back to that userid's console. But that requires you plan ahead on having this need and set up someone as secondary console. If it were just for the ability to keep and browse the logging (and invoke actions based on that) then PROP on the secondary console would give you most of that right? -Rob
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Joe, The simplest method to do a second-level install is to use an FTP server on your PC to serve the DVD contents. If you're working from home, or company policy prohibits FTP servers on PC's, here's an alternative. I work from home, so it takes me several hours to upload the contents of the DVD. We have several z/VM systems to upgrade, so I only want to do the upload once. Here are the steps that I use: 0. Create a Linux guest with Samba and FTP services. We did this once, and just keep the guest around between releases. If you're not ready to create Linux guests, find a Linux system somewhere that you can use, or there is at least one Linux distribution that boots a ready-to-run system from a DVD (Gentoo?). I can't guarantee this will work, because I don't know what's installed on the bootable DVD. The Novell starter system might be another idea, but again, I don't know what services it has. 1. Copy the DVD contents to a directory on my PC hard drive. Copy the appropriate RSU files (CKD or FBA) into the same directory. 2. Map a network drive on my PC to a directory on a Linux guest using Samba. 3. Use Windows cut-and-paste to move the files from my PC hard drive to the Linux guest. The nice thing about cut-and-paste is that it's easy to restart where I left off if my network connection gets dropped. 4. Perform a second-level DVD install using the Linux guest as an FTP server. If you're prompted to insert the RSU disk, just say GO. The RSU will get copied twice, but that isn't a problem. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:03 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Thank you for the good advise.. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 O'Brien, Dennis L dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/30/2009 04:29 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Joe, The simplest method to do a second-level install is to use an FTP server on your PC to serve the DVD contents. If you're working from home, or company policy prohibits FTP servers on PC's, here's an alternative. I work from home, so it takes me several hours to upload the contents of the DVD. We have several z/VM systems to upgrade, so I only want to do the upload once. Here are the steps that I use: 0. Create a Linux guest with Samba and FTP services. We did this once, and just keep the guest around between releases. If you're not ready to create Linux guests, find a Linux system somewhere that you can use, or there is at least one Linux distribution that boots a ready-to-run system from a DVD (Gentoo?). I can't guarantee this will work, because I don't know what's installed on the bootable DVD. The Novell starter system might be another idea, but again, I don't know what services it has. 1. Copy the DVD contents to a directory on my PC hard drive. Copy the appropriate RSU files (CKD or FBA) into the same directory. 2. Map a network drive on my PC to a directory on a Linux guest using Samba. 3. Use Windows cut-and-paste to move the files from my PC hard drive to the Linux guest. The nice thing about cut-and-paste is that it's easy to restart where I left off if my network connection gets dropped. 4. Perform a second-level DVD install using the Linux guest as an FTP server. If you're prompted to insert the RSU disk, just say GO. The RSU will get copied twice, but that isn't a problem. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:03 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
VMTAPE MOUNT Command
Is there documentation, in one place, of the possible non-zero return codes from a VMTAPE MOUNT command, or is it necessary to use a PIPE to trap the return code and message? I have a service machine that needs to mount tapes and perform functions for many users. It would be nice for the server to be able to tell a user that a request failed because an input tape could not be mounted, and be able to say why the mount failed. The VM:Tape Messages and Codes manual appears to have the information, however, the user messages are intermingled with the system and operator messages. Furthermore, the message numbers do not match the return codes. For example, if a MOUNT command is entered with an invalid virtual address, the message number is 44, but the return code is 24. The mount requests will succeed most of the time. I suppose that I could request the mount using a simple command and, if the return code is non-zero, reissue it in a pipe to trap the response. However, that seems a bit hokey. Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
On the DVD, there is a PCOM upload file that lists all files that must be uploaded. So, you don't have to enter all the names. I had to use it in Jan 2009 to install a z/VM 5.4 on a z/VM 5.1 system to which I could not (yet) have TCP/IP access at all, just 3270 via an OSA ICC. It did not take ages to have it uploaded. 2009/3/30 joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org: Yes, as you say... We have some issues with the security group in setting up a FTP server. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/30/2009 04:08 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Setting up the VM FTP server is not all that difficult - see the TCP/IP Planning and Install guide. Unless of course your company forbids FTP servers... You'll get much better throughput there compared to using the emulation tranfers as well as the ability to do lists. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling
Diagnose x250 will optimize all the I/O within a single request. It doesn't coalesce or optimize over multiple requests. Here is the usage note from the Programming Services Manual: The I/O for the DASD blocks specified in the block I/O entries of the BELBK may not occur in the same order that they are listed. If the application requires that the DASD blocks or I/O data buffers be updated in a particular order, then that I/O request should be implemented with separate DIAGNOSE X'250' invocations. Steve Wilkins IBM VM Development z/VM I/O Strategy | | From: | | --| |Gary M. Dennis gary.den...@mantissa.com | --| | | To:| | --| |IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| | | Date: | | --| |03/30/2009 12:56 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling | --| Thank you. Let me clarify. The questions aren't about the device which, as you correctly observe, is now a software figment. All we see and can control on the System z end is the sub-channel. My thinking (and this may be entirely off base) is that scheduling a sub-channel request to write 25 blocks via a composite channel program is somehow better than 25 separate requests. Regards, Gary On 3/30/09 10:22 AM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: The real question is, with today's disk arrays, what really is the optimal order of the CCWs in the chain? What may seem logical to you, who have apparently been around long enough to remember the days of each disk being a physical unit with cylinders and tracks being arranged sequentially, may not be optimal for disks that are striped across many physical disks. The VSSI products, VPARS and VTAPE, use the BLOCKIO routines and, if I am not mistaken, the VSSI code optimizes the channel programs by sorting them into sequential order before the DIAG is issued. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling Given A file pool consisting of 5 VDEV files on 5 separate real devices 2 cylinders per device 4096 block size When: a block chain is given Diag x'250' (async) for either read or write such that 4 blocks are written to or read from each track within the 5 files. Question(s): Does the 250 interface make any attempt to optimize I/O operations by constructing chained channel programs for single-track or consecutive-track multi-record writes/reads? If that is not the case, is such optimization achieved at a more basic level in z/VM real device I/O scheduling? Curiosity killed the In either of the above cases (that is if channel programs are chained based on intra-request I/O patterns), will either 250 or VM perform inter-request channel program chaining for multiple async requests targeting the same real device? Thanks --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis 0 ...living between the zeroes... 0 --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Mantissa Corporation 1121 Edenton Street Birmingham, Alabama 35242-9257 0 ... living between the
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
FileZilla has a free, open source, FTP server for Windows as well as a free, open source, FTP client. http://filezilla-project.org/ I have never used the server so I can't vouch for it. -- Dale R. Smith Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
I think that it is not of any concern who owns the PC, it is the use being made of the software. In this case, the use of the software benefits a company or organization, not just the individual. The 30 day trial version might be OK to use, but not the one that is free for personal use. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Thomas is correct, it's the PC ownership that matters. I was making an unconscious assumption that if Joe is installing z/VM on the company's mainframe, that he's using a company-owned PC to do it. We have a rule here that personally-owned PC's are not allowed on the company network. I wonder what the lawyers would say about using trial software for a couple of hours, then using it again a year later for the same thing. Is that one continuous trial? If the PC software vendor puts out a new version during that year, and you use the newer version for the second install, you'd have a pretty good argument that it's two trials. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 14:38 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
and who can use trial software without asking the lawyers first either?!! Joe may find it easier just to get his VM ftp server cleared through security, perhaps by agreeing to keep it up for only a short period of time and maybe with an exit in place to allow only him access. And I'm not sure anyone answered the other question, but yes, it is entirely possible (and not all the difficult) to install it first level and use that as test 2nd level later. Your volume labels will be different of course. It would be a simple matter of adding a directory entry to the old system that had a few DEDICATE statements in the directory entry for the volumes to which you loaded the 540 code and setting up the virtual machine right. See the z/VM 5.40 Running Guest Operating systems guide for that. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Thomas is correct, it's the PC ownership that matters. I was making an unconscious assumption that if Joe is installing z/VM on the company's mainframe, that he's using a company-owned PC to do it. We have a rule here that personally-owned PC's are not allowed on the company network. I wonder what the lawyers would say about using trial software for a couple of hours, then using it again a year later for the same thing. Is that one continuous trial? If the PC software vendor puts out a new version during that year, and you use the newer version for the second install, you'd have a pretty good argument that it's two trials. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 14:38 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820 == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
I think that it is not of any concern who owns the PC, it is the use being made of the software. In this case, the use of the software benefits a company or organization, not just the individual. The 30 day trial version might be OK to use, but not the one that is free for personal use. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Might need a lawyer here.. Joe doesn't need to own a z/VM system. Joe justs needs to own the PC that zftpserver is running on.. Not hat it matters much. You use it for a couple of hours and then your done with it anyways for a couple of years. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation The key phrase is Free for personal use. Unless Joe owns his own z/VM system, he's working for an organization of some sort. The free version is specifically not allowed for corporate or institutional use. Educational and non-profit institutions are encouraged to contact the vendor for special pricing. Dennis If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:55 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation Pretty sure the basic package is free forever. From their website. zFTPServer Suite Free covers basic FTP Server functionality with top notch server performance, ease of use and reliability. Free for personal use the zFTPServer Suite Free version will however have limitations in the number of accounts and advanced functionality offered. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation It's not free, you just get a 30 day trial. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
First level would imply, to me, that you do not have a running VM system. Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you have? I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I an FTP server. I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to install with no problem. It took about 3 hours once I got all the required install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in. To the list. Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of the current running system? Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
Steve, You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system down, or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation First level would imply, to me, that you do not have a running VM system. Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you have? I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I an FTP server. I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to install with no problem. It took about 3 hours once I got all the required install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in. To the list. Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of the current running system? Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling
Steve, Does that mean that CP will take the Diag280 I/O apart and move the separate parts out over multiple alias devices (when available of course)? Ronald van der Laan
look at service machine cons log
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:00:49 -0400, joseph.bei...@frit.frb.org wrote: Hello, how do I get a look at a service machine's cons log? XSF is a facility that can provide any authorized CMS user with a full-screen list of the files in any z/VM reader, print, or punch queue. From this display, the user can examine, purge, or show the tag of a file simply by pressing a PF key. Even open files can be viewed, enabling the review of active console logs. File attributes such as class or form can be changed by overtyping the display. The display can be sorted on any column to facilitate quick identification of large files, open files, old files, etc. Commands are provided to display files directly from the CMS or XEDIT command line. Files are displayed using XEDIT and the user's own profile. A security exit, written in Rexx, can be easily tailored to meet installation requirements. For example, class G users can be allowed to list the files in any queue, but might be limited to changing or purging only their own files and viewing only their own files and OPERATOR console logs. Contact sales at electrumsoftware.com.au for further details.
