Re: A Question about the VM Page and RES volumes

[Kris Buelens]

In any case, so not only paging: the model you'd use depends on the IO
rate.  If you need lots of space with low IO rates: bigger models don't
penalize you.  PAV will lower the observed IO rate.

CP's paging routines don't exploit PAV.  So, if you'd have  lots of stuff
slowly paged out and in, a model 27 would work well for paging too.  By
default though I'd recommend the smallest possible model for paging.

Side info: DB2/VM nor SFS can much benefit from PAV: they know where their
minidisks are located and won't attempt to launch a new IO when they have an
IO active one on a given pack.  If minidisks of other users are located on a
pack used by SFS/DB2, then CP may use PAV to launch a extra IOs while
SFS/DB2 have an active IO.  With other words:
 - when a pack is given to one DB2/SFS server, with fullpack mdisks or
multiple mdisks: PAV won't be used
 - when a pack is shared by multiple users (DBD, SFS, normal CMS), PAV can
help.
When DB2/SFS use dataspaces, CP's paging routines perform the IO, hence no
PAV either.

2009/4/1 Scott Rohling 

> If you have to pick a model - I would go with the 3390-3..  best for
> paging, etc.
>
> My current customer is using mod9's with PAV -- no issues, although I think
> their paging performance would be better with mod3's for paging volumes.
>
> 3390-27 I would reserve for guests (such as Linux) which can use that much
> space all at once - or for CMS guest minidisks.  I doubt there is any
> problem using them for the z/VM system volumes, but I definitely would not
> use them for paging.
>
> Others can probably speak with more technical detail about what's preferred
> and why..
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:29 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> I plan to install z/VM5.4.  We has 3390 model 3; mod 9 and mod 27. And we
>> use Z10.
>> My question is which one is better for VM CP module and paging space?
>> VM5.4 CP palnning and Administration said "3390 model 9 is not recommended
>> for CP system areas and does not support track"---on "Allocating Dasd Space"
>> And another book said 3390-3 are preferred for page.
>>
>> So does that mean model 3 is the best solution? What about mod 9 if we has
>> PAV?
>> Can we use mod27? Any problems?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 11:27 EDT, "Heckler, Bruce"  
wrote:

> Apparently when you define a string in IODF it builds a string as type 
FCP. 
> Then it builds another string type FBASCSI which has the LUN, ..., and 
> references back to the same offset FCP address.  The burning question is 
when 
> you plug in addresses to initialize the sysres and such, which set do 
you use? 
> If I were doing this myself, I'd keep plugging until I found something 
that 
> works. But this machine is locked in a different computer room, I don't 
have 
> access, access time, and some other compounding limitations.  You're 
right, the 
> Install Guide is standard IBM dull but accurate.  However, the naming 
> conventions are a bit confusing between what IODF, INSTDVD, and the 
Install 
> manual are using (at least how I read it).  The rest of the install is 
very 
> simple.

Just so you know, z/VM doesn't know or care about the "e-debris"(usually 
UNIT=) that z/OS puts in an IODF.  That "FBASCSI" thing isn't in the IOCP 
manual and z/VM doesn't require it.  We simply require that you define an 
FCP CHPID and some number of IODEVICEs on that chpid. 

EDEVICE  TYPE FBA   FCP_DEVICE  ...

All installation references to a real FBA device are a reference to an 
.

> Last, I'd LOVE to open a PMR.  But the Fine Arts folk who own this box 
bought 
> it on a shoestring (read: "No Support Contract").

Note that it also means you cannot upgrade your z/VM for free.  Any future 
upgrade will require payment of the OTC fees again.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

[Heckler, Bruce]

Hi Steve,

You're right, z/VM is 540 level.  the DVD shipped in December.   The Z10 and 
DS6000 are totally new from the factory, no other disk or hardware either.  
Actually my Boss has been struggling with the IODF since late December and I 
just got to touch the box myself for the first time last Thursday.  (Kind of 
embarassing. Told ya the story would be interesting).

Apparently when you define a string in IODF it builds a string as type FCP.  
Then it builds another string type FBASCSI which has the LUN, ..., and 
references back to the same offset FCP address.  The burning question is when 
you plug in addresses to initialize the sysres and such, which set do you use?  
If I were doing this myself, I'd keep plugging until I found something that 
works. But this machine is locked in a different computer room, I don't have 
access, access time, and some other compounding limitations.  You're right, the 
Install Guide is standard IBM dull but accurate.  However, the naming 
conventions are a bit confusing between what IODF, INSTDVD, and the Install 
manual are using (at least how I read it).  The rest of the install is very 
simple.

Last, I'd LOVE to open a PMR.  But the Fine Arts folk who own this box bought 
it on a shoestring (read: "No Support Contract").  We have support and IBMLINK 
for z/OS and products, but not VM.  Even our contract doesn't allow us to ask 
ETR questions unless we can disguise it as a problem.  That's why I went to 
IBMVM as the route "of last resort".  If you can give away some Pro Bono 
question time, my e-mail's below.  I see your e-mail, but I detest our users 
bugging me without the courtesy of getting a Help Desk ticket first.

Thanks,

Bruce Heckler
ACT DataCenter, University of California San Diego
10280 North Torrey Pines Rd #375
La Jolla, CA
(858) 534-2152
bheck...@ucsd.edu







From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of 
Steve Wilkins [wilki...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks


The DS6000 is supported for a z/VM install to SCSI. Here are some comments / 
questions from one of our install folks.

"What level of VM he is trying to install? Is it first level or second level? 
The first thing that pops into my head is that if he (Bruce) is trying to 
install on SCSI devices on something other than 540, he can't use SCSI devices 
that are defined on his system already. He must do the define commands (either 
by hand or with an exec) on the userid where he is installing. There was 
something in the way that the code checked for the device that would fail if 
the volume was already defined. In 540, we fixed this. "

If you (Bruce) can't get this to work by following the directions in the 
Install Guide, and no one has more timely advise for you, then I'd suggest you 
work with us via a PMR.

Steve Wilkins
IBM VM Development
z/VM I/O Strategy

Raymond Noal ---03/31/2009 04:33:14 PM---Bruce,


From:
Raymond Noal 

To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Date:
03/31/2009 04:33 PM

Subject:
Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks





Bruce,

Never having to install z/VM from the DVD I can't really comment on what is and 
what is not considered supported devices for the installation process. You may 
want to verify the FCP and/or FBASCSI device types are supported devices by the 
installation process. EDEVICES are constructs available from an installed z/VM 
system. They may not be for the installation process. Unless the installation 
process allows you to define FCP devices I don't really see how you could use 
FCP devices for your initial installaion.

Just my $0.02.

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS
Raymond E. Noal
Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Heckler, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

Hi Everyone,

First, let me preface the question by saying I'm mostly a z/OS weenie. =

Last time I installed VM it came on 2400' reels. Our campus Department of=

Fine Arts got a grant for a Z10 EC and Red Hat. (an interesting story for=

later). Their support folks are more into Dell than anything Big Blue.  S=
o
us old "legacy" dinosaurs got pressed into service.  OK, now the
question:

We're failing in INSTDVD setting up the system volumes.  We plug in the =

addresses, PF5, reply "y" to confirm, and it thows us back into the panel=

with a DMSXDC542E.  I'm pretty sure but not 100% we've got the addresses =

we need, switched. The IODF shows a string at 1000 for 240 with type FCP.=

Related to it is another string beginning at 3000 with type FBASCSI. I =

used the 1000 device addresses, but some of the new function IBM PMRs see=
m
allude the right ones should be at 3000 (FBASCSI). That'd also imply our =

SET EDEVICEs a

Re: A Question about the VM Page and RES volumes

[Scott Rohling]

If you have to pick a model - I would go with the 3390-3..  best for paging,
etc.

My current customer is using mod9's with PAV -- no issues, although I think
their paging performance would be better with mod3's for paging volumes.

3390-27 I would reserve for guests (such as Linux) which can use that much
space all at once - or for CMS guest minidisks.  I doubt there is any
problem using them for the z/VM system volumes, but I definitely would not
use them for paging.

Others can probably speak with more technical detail about what's preferred
and why..

Scott

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:29 PM,  wrote:

>
> I plan to install z/VM5.4.  We has 3390 model 3; mod 9 and mod 27. And we
> use Z10.
> My question is which one is better for VM CP module and paging space?
> VM5.4 CP palnning and Administration said "3390 model 9 is not recommended
> for CP system areas and does not support track"---on "Allocating Dasd Space"
> And another book said 3390-3 are preferred for page.
>
> So does that mean model 3 is the best solution? What about mod 9 if we has
> PAV?
> Can we use mod27? Any problems?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> --
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Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

[Steve Wilkins]

The DS6000 is supported for a z/VM install to SCSI.   Here are some
comments / questions from one of our install folks.

"What level of VM he is trying to install?  Is it first level or second
level?  The first thing that pops into my head is that if he (Bruce) is
trying to install on SCSI devices on something other than 540, he can't use
SCSI devices that are defined on his system already.  He must do the define
commands (either by hand or with an exec) on the userid where he is
installing.  There was something in the way that the code checked for the
device that would fail if the volume was already defined.  In 540, we fixed
this. "

If you (Bruce) can't get this to work by following the directions in the
Install Guide, and no one has more timely advise for you, then I'd suggest
you work with us via a PMR.

Steve Wilkins
IBM VM Development
z/VM I/O Strategy


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Bruce,

Never having to install z/VM from the DVD I can't really comment on what is
and what is not considered supported devices for the installation process.
You may want to verify the FCP and/or FBASCSI device types are supported
devices by the installation process. EDEVICES are constructs available from
an installed z/VM system. They may not be for the installation process.
Unless the installation process allows you to define FCP devices I don't
really see how you could use FCP devices for your initial installaion.

Just my $0.02.

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS
Raymond E. Noal
Senior Technical Engineer
Office: (408) 970 - 7978

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Heckler, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

Hi Everyone,

First, let me preface the question by saying I'm mostly a z/OS weenie. =

Last time I installed VM it came on 2400' reels. Our campus Department of=

Fine Arts got a grant for a Z10 EC and Red Hat. (an interesting story for=

later). Their support folks are more into Dell than anything Big Blue.  S=
o
us old "legacy" dinosaurs got pressed into service.  OK, now the
question:

We're failing in INSTDVD setting up the system volumes.  We plug in the =

addresses, PF5, reply "y" to confirm, and it thows us back into the panel=

with a DMSXDC542E.  I'm pretty sure but not 100% we've got the addresses =

we need, switched. The IODF shows a string at 1000 for 240 with type FCP.=

Related to it is another string beginning at 3000 with type FBASCSI. I =

used the 1000 device addresses, but some of the new function IBM PMRs see=
m
allude the right ones should be at 3000 (FBASCSI). That'd also imply our =

SET EDEVICEs are also wrong.  Comments from anyone who've broken ground =

with a DS6000 would be appreciated.

Sooo Weee!  Hook 'em Hogs!... from an old Arkie and UA gradicate...

A Question about the VM Page and RES volumes

[sunny . hu]

I plan to install z/VM5.4.  We has 3390 model 3; mod 9 and mod 27. And we 
use Z10.
My question is which one is better for VM CP module and paging space?
VM5.4 CP palnning and Administration said "3390 model 9 is not recommended 
for CP system areas and does not support track"---on "Allocating Dasd 
Space"
And another book said 3390-3 are preferred for page.

So does that mean model 3 is the best solution? What about mod 9 if we has 
PAV?
Can we use mod27? Any problems?

Thanks 





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Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

[Lee Stewart]

GUILDFTPD is a free Windows FTP server...

Ward, Mike S wrote:

It’s not free, you just get a 30 day trial.

 

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*On Behalf Of *Huegel, Thomas

*Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2009 3:18 PM
*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
*Subject:* Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 

You will need an FTP server running on your PC. I found an excellent 
freebie at zftpserver.com it made life so much earier.  


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*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
*Subject:* VM 5.4 first/second level installation


List Members,

I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM.
After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I
had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from
VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized
that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to
the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program
(Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea.

Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I
thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make
more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test
second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds
reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as
to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference
would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed.  


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Operating Systems Programmer III
FRIT Computing Services
Hardware Support
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Re: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

[Raymond Noal]

Bruce,

Never having to install z/VM from the DVD I can't really comment on what is and 
what is not considered supported devices for the installation process. You may 
want to verify the FCP and/or FBASCSI device types are supported devices by the 
installation process. EDEVICES are constructs available from an installed z/VM 
system. They may not be for the installation process. Unless the installation 
process allows you to define FCP devices I don't really see how you could use 
FCP devices for your initial installaion.

Just my $0.02.

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Heckler, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: z/VM and DS6000 Disks

Hi Everyone, 

First, let me preface the question by saying I'm mostly a z/OS weenie. =

Last time I installed VM it came on 2400' reels. Our campus Department of=
 
Fine Arts got a grant for a Z10 EC and Red Hat. (an interesting story for=
 
later). Their support folks are more into Dell than anything Big Blue.  S=
o 
us old "legacy" dinosaurs got pressed into service.  OK, now the 
question:   

We're failing in INSTDVD setting up the system volumes.  We plug in the =

addresses, PF5, reply "y" to confirm, and it thows us back into the panel=
 
with a DMSXDC542E.  I'm pretty sure but not 100% we've got the addresses =

we need, switched. The IODF shows a string at 1000 for 240 with type FCP.=
 
Related to it is another string beginning at 3000 with type FBASCSI. I =

used the 1000 device addresses, but some of the new function IBM PMRs see=
m 
allude the right ones should be at 3000 (FBASCSI). That'd also imply our =

SET EDEVICEs are also wrong.  Comments from anyone who've broken ground =

with a DS6000 would be appreciated. 

Sooo Weee!  Hook 'em Hogs!... from an old Arkie and UA gradicate... 

z/VM and DS6000 Disks

[Heckler, Bruce]

Hi Everyone, 

First, let me preface the question by saying I'm mostly a z/OS weenie. 

Last time I installed VM it came on 2400' reels. Our campus Department of
 
Fine Arts got a grant for a Z10 EC and Red Hat. (an interesting story for
 
later). Their support folks are more into Dell than anything Big Blue.  S
o 
us old "legacy" dinosaurs got pressed into service.  OK, now the 
question:   

We're failing in INSTDVD setting up the system volumes.  We plug in the 

addresses, PF5, reply "y" to confirm, and it thows us back into the panel
 
with a DMSXDC542E.  I'm pretty sure but not 100% we've got the addresses 

we need, switched. The IODF shows a string at 1000 for 240 with type FCP.
 
Related to it is another string beginning at 3000 with type FBASCSI. I 

used the 1000 device addresses, but some of the new function IBM PMRs see
m 
allude the right ones should be at 3000 (FBASCSI). That'd also imply our 

SET EDEVICEs are also wrong.  Comments from anyone who've broken ground 

with a DS6000 would be appreciated. 

Sooo Weee!  Hook 'em Hogs!... from an old Arkie and UA gradicate...

Re: Install vm 5.4

[Michael Forte]

Sounds good. Good luck!!

Michael J. Forte
z/OS Storage ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

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"Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest..." 



From:
"MacIntyre, Cory" 
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
03/31/2009 02:34 PM
Subject:
Re: Install vm 5.4
Sent by:
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I'll do the PMR after I finish this install just in case I run into other 
confusing junk.

Thanks

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Michael Forte
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:16 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

I have forwarded the message documentation concern to the proper person in 

z/VM Information Development. However, as Alan mentioned, opening a PMR or 

submitting a reader's comment will drive the message home (no pun 
intended!).


Michael J. Forte
z/OS Storage ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

Building 052-1, B09
2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

"Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest..." 



From:
"MacIntyre, Cory" 
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
03/31/2009 02:07 PM
Subject:
Re: Install vm 5.4
Sent by:
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Thanks, now that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 01:41 EDT, "MacIntyre, Cory"
 wrote:
> I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am
receiving
> the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with
it. The
> manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
> CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
> CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
> CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
> CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

HELP VMF2308I will give you some hints, but what it really says is:
a) You have a CHKIPADR EXEC on your old system.
b) It has been migrated to the new system as-is.
c) It was created (more or less) from CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC on your original
system.
d) CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC has changed on the NEW system.
e) You need to look at the NEW version of CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC to see if you
need to make changes to CHKIPADR EXEC on the NEW system.

(The message text is horrible - sorry.  Feel free to open a PMR or submit
a Reader's Comment Form.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Install vm 5.4

[MacIntyre, Cory]

I'll do the PMR after I finish this install just in case I run into other 
confusing junk.

Thanks

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Michael Forte
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:16 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

I have forwarded the message documentation concern to the proper person in 
z/VM Information Development. However, as Alan mentioned, opening a PMR or 
submitting a reader's comment will drive the message home (no pun 
intended!).


Michael J. Forte
z/OS Storage ID and POK Softcopy Support
Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
IBM Poughkeepsie, New York
mjfo...@us.ibm.com

Office: 845-435-9062, T/L: 295-9062
Fax: 845-432-9405

Building 052-1, B09
2455 South Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

"Often those who work the hardest are the luckiest..." 



From:
"MacIntyre, Cory" 
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
03/31/2009 02:07 PM
Subject:
Re: Install vm 5.4
Sent by:
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Thanks, now that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 01:41 EDT, "MacIntyre, Cory"
 wrote:
> I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am
receiving
> the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with
it. The
> manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
> CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
> CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
> CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
> CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

HELP VMF2308I will give you some hints, but what it really says is:
a) You have a CHKIPADR EXEC on your old system.
b) It has been migrated to the new system as-is.
c) It was created (more or less) from CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC on your original
system.
d) CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC has changed on the NEW system.
e) You need to look at the NEW version of CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC to see if you
need to make changes to CHKIPADR EXEC on the NEW system.

(The message text is horrible - sorry.  Feel free to open a PMR or submit
a Reader's Comment Form.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Install vm 5.4

[Michael Forte]

I have forwarded the message documentation concern to the proper person in 
z/VM Information Development. However, as Alan mentioned, opening a PMR or 
submitting a reader's comment will drive the message home (no pun 
intended!).


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Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA
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From:
"MacIntyre, Cory" 
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
03/31/2009 02:07 PM
Subject:
Re: Install vm 5.4
Sent by:
The IBM z/VM Operating System 



Thanks, now that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 01:41 EDT, "MacIntyre, Cory"
 wrote:
> I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am
receiving
> the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with
it. The
> manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
> CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
> CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
> CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
> CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

HELP VMF2308I will give you some hints, but what it really says is:
a) You have a CHKIPADR EXEC on your old system.
b) It has been migrated to the new system as-is.
c) It was created (more or less) from CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC on your original
system.
d) CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC has changed on the NEW system.
e) You need to look at the NEW version of CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC to see if you
need to make changes to CHKIPADR EXEC on the NEW system.

(The message text is horrible - sorry.  Feel free to open a PMR or submit
a Reader's Comment Form.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Install vm 5.4

[MacIntyre, Cory]

Thanks, now that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Install vm 5.4

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 01:41 EDT, "MacIntyre, Cory"
 wrote:
> I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am
receiving
> the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with
it. The
> manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
> CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
> CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
> CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
> CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

HELP VMF2308I will give you some hints, but what it really says is:
a) You have a CHKIPADR EXEC on your old system.
b) It has been migrated to the new system as-is.
c) It was created (more or less) from CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC on your original
system.
d) CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC has changed on the NEW system.
e) You need to look at the NEW version of CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC to see if you
need to make changes to CHKIPADR EXEC on the NEW system.

(The message text is horrible - sorry.  Feel free to open a PMR or submit
a Reader's Comment Form.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Install vm 5.4

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 03/31/2009 at 01:41 EDT, "MacIntyre, Cory" 
 wrote:
> I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am 
receiving 
> the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with 
it. The 
> manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
> CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
> CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
> CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
> CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

HELP VMF2308I will give you some hints, but what it really says is:
a) You have a CHKIPADR EXEC on your old system.
b) It has been migrated to the new system as-is.
c) It was created (more or less) from CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC on your original 
system.
d) CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC has changed on the NEW system.
e) You need to look at the NEW version of CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC to see if you 
need to make changes to CHKIPADR EXEC on the NEW system.

(The message text is horrible - sorry.  Feel free to open a PMR or submit 
a Reader's Comment Form.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

Re: VMTAPE MOUNT Command

[Schuh, Richard]

Kris,

I did say, "... or is it necessary to use a PIPE..." I have that type of
code in several places, too. Presumably, the incidence of errors will be
very low, and they are the only reason for imbedding the command in a
PIPE; a return code of 0 is a success. The overhead of using a Pipe so
that I can catch the one error in thousands of passes is not necessary.
It should be far cheaper to issue the command and then retry in a Pipe
only when the operation fails. 

That said, I would rather not have to use a Pipe for this at all, but
for that I need a way to correlate return code with error condition. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:36 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: VMTAPE MOUNT Command
> 
> Why not always imbed the MOUNT in a PIPE?  I've got lots of 
> code like this
>'PIPE COMMAND CMDCALL someSFScmd',
> '|VAR EMSG |DROP',   /* take emsg/remove header */
> '|...analyze the response 
> if rc<>0 then do
>inform enduser 'Command xyz failed:' emsg
>.
> The CMDCALL is typical for CMS commands, it assures an 
> errormessage is generated, even when executing the command in 
> "address command" mode.
> 
> 2009/3/30 Schuh, Richard :
> > Is there documentation, in one place, of the possible 
> non-zero return 
> > codes from a VMTAPE MOUNT command, or is it necessary to 
> use a PIPE to 
> > trap the return code and message? I have a service machine 
> that needs 
> > to mount tapes and perform functions for many users. It 
> would be nice 
> > for the server to be able to tell a user that a request 
> failed because 
> > an input tape could not be mounted, and be able to say why 
> the mount failed.
> >
> > The VM:Tape Messages and Codes manual appears to have the 
> information, 
> > however, the user messages are intermingled with the system and 
> > operator messages. Furthermore, the message numbers do not 
> match the return codes.
> > For example, if a MOUNT command is entered with an invalid virtual 
> > address, the message number is 44, but the return code is 24.
> >
> > The mount requests will succeed most of the time. I suppose that I 
> > could request the mount using a simple command and, if the 
> return code 
> > is non-zero, reissue it in a pipe to trap the response. 
> However, that 
> > seems a bit hokey.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Richard Schuh
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Kris Buelens,
> IBM Belgium, VM customer support
> 

Install vm 5.4

[MacIntyre, Cory]

I have installed VM 5.4 and I am performing the migrate option. I am receiving 
the message below and I really don't have a clue as to what to do with it. The 
manual is vague about it. Can someone point me in the right direction?

CK:VMFMGR2308I Part CHKIPADR SAMPEXEC which was customized by being
CK:copied and changed, has been migrated to the &BLD4Z
CK:(TCPMAINT 198) disk as CHKIPADR EXEC.
CK:The customization of this part must be reworked prior to
CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.
CK:building product 5VMTCP40%TCPIP.

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Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling

[Rob van der Heij]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Steve Wilkins  wrote:

> Usually the parts in a single Diag x250 request are reordered and kept in as
> few channel programs as possible. However, if alias devices are attached to
> the system, these channel programs will be issued to the first available
> base or alias device (for minidisk I/O).

And when the disks fit the proper criteria, MDC could also be in the
play. When the I/O is partially satisfied from MDC, we may need two
separate real I/O's to deal with the remainder.
With the small mini disks and small I/O's that Gary suggested, I
suppose track-based MDC might do a nice job avoiding some of the read
I/O's completely.

Rob
-- 
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/

Re: Diagnose x'250' / z/VM I/O scheduling

[Steve Wilkins]

Usually the parts in a single Diag x250 request are reordered and kept in
as few channel programs as possible.   However, if alias devices are
attached to the system, these channel programs will be issued to the first
available base or alias device (for minidisk I/O).

Steve Wilkins
z/VM I/O Strategy
IBM VM Development


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Steve,

Does that mean that CP will take the Diag280 I/O apart and move the
separate parts out over multiple alias devices (when available of course)?

Ronald van der Laan

Re: Unsubscribe

[Rich Greenberg]

On: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:20:14PM +0200,Matthias Erlacher Wrote:

} Hello Friends,
} 
} I bekome just up to now mails from
} 
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} because of a change in our mailing system I have to
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Matthias, you don't want to unsubscribe.  You want to change your
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listserv, NOT the list.  For IBMVM, the listserv is at:

   

Dont know what server handles IBMTCP-L.  The list header should say.

This command MUST come from the OLD address.  No subject or signature.
No html, plain text only.  In the body, put the following line:

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Restart of Failed Service

[Wandschneider, Scott]

I attempted to apply 901 service before 901 RSU which of course resulted in a 
failure.  I want to start over with the 901 RSU, but there is a RESTART RECORD 
preventing me from starting over.  Can I just delete that record or is there 
some other clean up I must do first?  Thanks in advance. 
 

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Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

[Brian Nielsen]

Or do what I do: I install in a second level guest, but I follow the 1st 

level DDR instructions.

Brian Nielsen

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:51:33 -0700, O'Brien, Dennis L 
 wrote:

>Steve,
>You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM
>system down, or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in.

Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

[Steve Mitchell]

Apologies.  My previous email/post was not an intended reply to this
thread.

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Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas
(785) 291-8885

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Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

[Steve Mitchell]

Too bad.

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[Crabtree, Anne D]

You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF VMESA-L" command
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Hello Friends,

I bekome just up to now mails from

IBMVM and IBMTCP-L

because of a change in our mailing system I have to

unsubscribe these two letters.

I hope You can help me with my problem, otherwise I beg You for

an address or You can reroute my mail to this address.

Thanks a lot.

Regards

Matthias Erlacher
Mit freundlichen Gruessen / kind regards 

Matthias Erlacher 
Datenverarbeitungs-Kaufmann 
Fachgruppenleiter / Supervisor 
ITI3 Zentrale Server Fachgruppe Z/OS 
Tel.: +49 (0)711/911-25133 
Fax: +49 (0)711/911-26293 
Email: matthias.erlac...@porsche.de 
PIKS GmbH 



Von: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] Im Auftrag 
von O'Brien, Dennis L
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. März 2009 01:52
An: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Betreff: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 

Steve,

You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system down, 
or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in.

   Dennis O'Brien

"If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd 
started with $100 million."  -- Jon Stewart

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation

First level would imply, to me,  that you do not have a running VM system.  
Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you 
have?

I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I 
an FTP server.  I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to 
install with no problem.  It took about 3 hours once I got all the required 
install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in.

To the list.  Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM 
system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of 
the current running system?

Steve

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 


List Members, 

I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading 
the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the 
Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a 
simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload 
all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation 
program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. 

Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a 
First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would 
be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to 
whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide 
some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual 
reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed.   

Joseph Di Pippo
Operating Systems Programmer III
FRIT Computing Services
Hardware Support
1-201-531-3820

Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

[Crabtree, Anne D]

We have z/os running on an lpar and z/vm running on an IFL.  I just used z/os 
as my ftp server to install second level.



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of O'Brien, Dennis L
Sent: Mon 3/30/2009 7:51 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation


Steve,
You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system down, 
or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in.

   Dennis O'Brien

"If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd 
started with $100 million."  -- Jon Stewart


 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation



First level would imply, to me,  that you do not have a running VM system.  
Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you 
have?

I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I 
an FTP server.  I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to 
install with no problem.  It took about 3 hours once I got all the required 
install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in.

To the list.  Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM 
system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of 
the current running system?

Steve

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 


List Members, 

I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading 
the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the 
Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a 
simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload 
all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation 
program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. 

Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a 
First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would 
be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to 
whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide 
some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual 
reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed.   

Joseph Di Pippo
Operating Systems Programmer III
FRIT Computing Services
Hardware Support
1-201-531-3820

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[Matthias Erlacher]

Hello Friends,

I bekome just up to now mails from

IBMVM and IBMTCP-L

because of a change in our mailing system I have to

unsubscribe these two letters.

I hope You can help me with my problem, otherwise I beg You for

an address or You can reroute my mail to this address.

Thanks a lot.

Regards

Matthias Erlacher
Mit freundlichen Gruessen / kind regards 

Matthias Erlacher 
Datenverarbeitungs-Kaufmann 
Fachgruppenleiter / Supervisor 
ITI3 Zentrale Server Fachgruppe Z/OS 
Tel.: +49 (0)711/911-25133 
Fax: +49 (0)711/911-26293 
Email: matthias.erlac...@porsche.de 
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Von: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] Im
Auftrag von O'Brien, Dennis L
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. März 2009 01:52
An: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Betreff: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 

Steve,

You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system
down, or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in.

   Dennis O'Brien

"If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd
started with $100 million."  -- Jon Stewart

 

 

  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation

First level would imply, to me,  that you do not have a running VM system.
Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do
you have?

I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use
I an FTP server.  I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able
to install with no problem.  It took about 3 hours once I got all the
required install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in.

To the list.  Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM
system running, so long as you don’t use the same disk addresses and volids
of the current running system?

Steve

 

  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation

 


List Members, 

I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After
reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on
using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although,
after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80
hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my
3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to
abandon this idea. 

Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that
a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal
would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain
as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would
provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a
manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are
welcomed.   

Joseph Di Pippo
Operating Systems Programmer III
FRIT Computing Services
Hardware Support
1-201-531-3820

Re: VMTAPE MOUNT Command

[Kris Buelens]

Why not always imbed the MOUNT in a PIPE?  I've got lots of code like this
   'PIPE COMMAND CMDCALL someSFScmd',
'|VAR EMSG |DROP',   /* take emsg/remove header */
'|...analyze the response 
if rc<>0 then do
   inform enduser 'Command xyz failed:' emsg
   .
The CMDCALL is typical for CMS commands, it assures an errormessage is
generated, even when executing the command in "address command" mode.

2009/3/30 Schuh, Richard :
> Is there documentation, in one place, of the possible non-zero return codes
> from a VMTAPE MOUNT command, or is it necessary to use a PIPE to trap the
> return code and message? I have a service machine that needs to mount tapes
> and perform functions for many users. It would be nice for the server to be
> able to tell a user that a request failed because an input tape could not be
> mounted, and be able to say why the mount failed.
>
> The VM:Tape Messages and Codes manual appears to have the information,
> however, the user messages are intermingled with the system and operator
> messages. Furthermore, the message numbers do not match the return codes.
> For example, if a MOUNT command is entered with an invalid virtual address,
> the message number is 44, but the return code is 24.
>
> The mount requests will succeed most of the time. I suppose that I could
> request the mount using a simple command and, if the return code is
> non-zero, reissue it in a pipe to trap the response. However, that seems a
> bit hokey.
>
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support