Any 3270 emulator for Android Tablet?
Has anyone found a 3270 emulator for Android yet? -- Tony Thigpen
Re: Any 3270 emulator for Android Tablet?
No yet, Tony. I just looked yesterday in the Android Market for one for my Motorola Android phone. DJ On 02/18/2011 07:20 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Has anyone found a 3270 emulator for Android yet? -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Web based archive?
Is there a web address where the archives of the IBM-VM list can be reviewed from? Many of the other LISTSERVers provide such an interface. Thanks. -Dave
Re: Web based archive?
Dave, you can view and search the current list and archives back to January 1994 via this: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html On 02/18/2011 07:45 AM, JURASCHEK, DAVID F (CTR) wrote: Is there a web address where the archives of the IBM-VM list can be reviewed from? Many of the other LISTSERVers provide such an interface. Thanks. -Dave -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
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Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govwrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
CHPD described as FCP A cntlunit using FCP How ever many devices FCP We have 64. Nothing in System config. Use the dedicate statement in the user direct file to attach the device. On 2/18/2011 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
IBM 100: System 360 From Computers to Computer Systems
Cross posted to IBMVM,IBMMAIN, LINUX390 for you mainframe enthusiasts. Today's IBM 100: System 360 From Computers to Computer Systems http://www.ibm.com/ibm100/us/en/icons/system360/ Enjoy. Regards, Pam C
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Here is what I do. In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR /**/ /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */ IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM /**/ Then I have two files on CF1 ZVMHOME SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my home system ZVMDR SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my D/R system This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. *Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov mailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
Tom Huegel wrote: This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc Why CPUID? We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon. Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change? Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:15 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Here is what I do. In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR /**/ /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */ IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM /**/ Then I have two files on CF1 ZVMHOME SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my home system ZVMDR SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my D/R system This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won’t let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a stetement like this you don't need to do anything. System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Tom Huegel wrote: This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc Why CPUID? We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon. Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change? *Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:15 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Here is what I do. In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR /**/ /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */ IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM /**/ Then I have two files on CF1 ZVMHOME SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my home system ZVMDR SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my D/R system This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC * george_he...@newyorklife.com* george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. *Alan Altmark **alan_altm...@us.ibm.com* alan_altm...@us.ibm.com** Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter *mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com* mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training * **ibm.com/systems/services/labservices*http://ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556* **alan_altm...@us.ibm.com* alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian France *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov mailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
This is all I have in SYSTEM CONFIG, so I guess it's ok? /**/ /* System_Identifier Information*/ /**/ System_Identifier_Default zVM-81 Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:44 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a stetement like this you don't need to do anything. System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Tom Huegel wrote: This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc Why CPUID? We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon. Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change? Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:15 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Here is what I do. In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR /**/ /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */ IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM /**/ Then I have two files on CF1 ZVMHOME SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my home system ZVMDR SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my D/R system This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov mailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them there and then connect on the VM side under VM? (boy that question even confuses me..lol Hope you know what I'm asking!) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I do not connect them to my z/OS LPARs under my z/OS contolled HCD. I do however, create VM OS LPARs under my z/OS controlled HCD and connect my FCP chpds/dev to VM only. On the chpid itself I only code VM access. I don't even put MVS as a candidate. On 2/18/2011 11:49 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them there and then connect on the VM side under VM? (boy that question even confuses me..lol Hope you know what I'm asking!) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian France *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:46 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian France *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov mailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG
You should be fine. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:46 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: This is all I have in SYSTEM CONFIG, so I guess it's ok? /**/ /* System_Identifier Information*/ /**/ System_Identifier_Default zVM-81 *Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:44 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG That depends.. If you have CPUID's in the system config file then you will need to update them for the new cpu.. On the other hand if you just have a stetement like this you don't need to do anything. System_Identifier_Default ZVMHOME On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:22 AM, George Henke/NYLIC * george_he...@newyorklife.com* george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Tom Huegel wrote: This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc Why CPUID? We are upgrading from z9 to z196 soon. Is there a CPUID carried in SYSTEM CONFIG which I must change? *Tom Huegel **tehue...@gmail.com* tehue...@gmail.com** Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 11:15 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG Here is what I do. In SYSTEM CONFIG file I have these statements. System_Identifier 2094 09A123 ZVMHOME System_Identifier 2817 09B123 ZVMDR /**/ /* IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM */ IMBED -SYSTEM- SYSTEM /**/ Then I have two files on CF1 ZVMHOME SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my home system ZVMDR SYSTEM All of the system config statements for my D/R system This technique requires you to know some things about the D/R system like the CPUID etc. you can use the different names throught the system to decide if you are at home or at a D/R sught. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:01 AM, George Henke/NYLIC * george_he...@newyorklife.com* george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). Just because we're paranoid, does not necessarily mean everyone is not out to get us. *Alan Altmark **alan_altm...@us.ibm.com* alan_altm...@us.ibm.com** Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/17/2011 09:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DEVICES stmt in SYSTEM CONFIG On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 05:48 EST, Mike Walter *mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com* mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: If you're reading this and are new to z/VM, take one thing away... build a stable (tested and rarely changed) 1-pack z/VM recovery system. It could save your job one day (or dark night). The truly paranoid keep a .iso copy of the DVD in each location (or burn extra physical copies and keep it with your emergency ops manual). The ramdisk-based installation system can be used to repair other systems. It will run even if nothing else will. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training * **ibm.com/systems/services/labservices*http://ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556* **alan_altm...@us.ibm.com* alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I've tried several times and each time I start over but here's the jist of it: 1.Define os config of type VM 2.Modify the FC chipids I want to use from FC to FCP 3. Add control units as type FCP 4. Add devices and attach to those control units with type FCP If I then print a config report for MVS and VM, they are not at all what I thought they should be. MVS omits all of them but so does VM report? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
How about on option 2 when you modified the FC chpids to be FCP, did you also just give access to your VM partition under that chpid? On 2/18/2011 12:04 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I've tried several times and each time I start over but here's the jist of it: 1. Define os config of type VM 2. Modify the FC chipids I want to use from FC to FCP 3.Add control units as type FCP 4.Add devices and attach to those control units with type FCP If I then print a config report for MVS and VM, they are not at all what I thought they should be. MVS omits all of them but so does VM report? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian France *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:49 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax *From:*The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pace *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov mailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu mailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
yes Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM How about on option 2 when you modified the FC chpids to be FCP, did you also just give access to your VM partition under that chpid? On 2/18/2011 12:04 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I've tried several times and each time I start over but here's the jist of it: Define os config of type VM Modify the FC chipids I want to use from FC to FCP Add control units as type FCP Add devices and attach to those control units with type FCP If I then print a config report for MVS and VM, they are not at all what I thought they should be. MVS omits all of them but so does VM report? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
Thought this might help: Specify or revise the following values. Processor ID . . . . : Z10 Z10 2098 V02 MACHINE Configuration mode . : LPAR Channel Subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . . . 43+PCHID . . . 1B0 Channel path type . . . FCP + Operation mode . . . . . SHR + Managed . . . . . . . . No (Yes or No) I/O Cluster + Description . . . . . . EMC CELERRA Z/VM IFL Specify the following values only if connected to a switch: Dynamic entry switch ID __ + (00 - FF) Entry switch ID . . . . __ + Entry port . . . . . . . __ + ¢¢¢ Define Access List ¢¢ Row 1 of Command === _ Scroll === PAGE Select one or more partitions for inclusion in the access list. Channel subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . : 43 Channel path type . : FCP Operation mode . . . : SHRNumber of CHPIDs . . : 1 / CSS ID Partition Name Number Usage Description _ 0 IPO1 1 OS _ 0 IPO2 4 OSIPO2 / 0 LINUX3 OSlinux _ 0 TEST 2 OS _ 0 WVCF 5 CF Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I do not connect them to my z/OS LPARs under my z/OS contolled HCD. I do however, create VM OS LPARs under my z/OS controlled HCD and connect my FCP chpds/dev to VM only. On the chpid itself I only code VM access. I don't even put MVS as a candidate. On 2/18/2011 11:49 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them there and then connect on the VM side under VM? (boy that question even confuses me..lol Hope you know what I'm asking!) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa.
VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the number of cpus? Ackerman, Derek wrote: Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is one example for one CP and one interval. CPUADDR=0 INTERVALUSERCONECTTM CPUVIRTCPUTOTAL 19:30:28AUDITOR5990.1750 0.2220 19:30:28DISKACNT 5990.0150 0.0380 19:30:28EREP 5990. 0.0020 19:30:28FAQSEXEC 5990. 0. 19:30:28FAQSVM 5990.0030 0.0060 19:30:28FTPIFOX5990. 0. 19:30:28FTPSERVE 5990. 0. 19:30:28FWER 5990. 0. 19:30:28GCS5990. 0. 19:30:28HIDRO 599 33.1660 41.8210 19:30:28IFXSERVE 5990. 0. 19:30:28LINMON 5990.0020 0.0040 19:30:28OPERATOR 5990.0070 0.0160 19:30:28OPERSYMP 5990. 0. 19:30:28OSASF 5990. 0. 19:30:28PGAR 5990. 0. 19:30:28PHRO 5990. 0. 19:30:28RAHM 5990. 0. 19:30:28RMCG 5990.0090 0.0320 19:30:28RMSMASTR 5990. 0. 19:30:28RSCS 5990. 0. 19:30:28SESQ 5990. 0. 19:30:28SKAN 5990. 0. 19:30:28SK01 5990.0050 0.0130 19:30:28SPOOLER5990. 0.0010 19:30:28SUBMITS5990.0020 0.0070 19:30:28SYBCOM 5990. 0. 19:30:28SYBLOG 5990. 0. 19:30:28SYBMON 5990. 0. 19:30:28SYBUSER5990.0020 0.0030 19:30:28SYSCHECK 5990. 0. 19:30:28SYSLOGS5990. 0. 19:30:28SYSTEM 5990. 11.0860 19:30:28TCPIFOX5990.0380 0.0550 19:30:28TCPIP 5990.0070 0.0090 19:30:28TMON 5990.1720 0.1940 19:30:28TS09 5990.0740 0.0860 19:30:28UACSERV5990. 0. 19:30:28UAFCSERV 5990. 0. 19:30:28UNIJCL 5990. 0. 19:30:28UNIPRD2599 316.9930401.7960 19:30:28UNIPROD599 291.7980302.0340 19:30:28UNITEST5990.7500 0.8200 19:30:28VGLIBSRV 5990.0020 0.0020 19:30:28VMLIB 5990. 0. 19:30:28VMSERVR5990. 0. 19:30:28VMSERVS5990. 0. 19:30:28VMSERVU5990. 0. 19:30:28VMUTIL 5990.0030 0.0050 19:30:28VTAM 5990.2320 0.3640 19:30:28VTAMOP 5990. 0. 19:30:28WMOO 5990. 0. INTERVAL643.4550758.6160 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the number of cpus? Ackerman, Derek wrote: Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review,
Re: Watson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:42:06 -0600 David Boyes said: I, too, wished IBM would do more to highlight the z series capabilities in public forums, but Watson is a massively parallel system (2K+ cores, I believe), and I have my doubts as to whether or not a collection of z10s could be integrated together tightly enough to meet the software's requirements. I could be wrong, however. :-) It could be done, but this is a case where it would have been the wrong choice. This is a vector-oriented SIMD problem (enormous numbers of simple comparisons on bits of data to determine if it has a right answer or not), and it's embarrassingly parallel in nature (very little shared data between comparisons, few locks, few context switches required). This is POWER's sweet spot, and forcing a Z into this role is probably not a good idea. This is not the kind of problem the Z arch is designed to solve. And to bring it back so the moderator doesn't yell again, as the System P is improved to handle this better, it will eventually be integrated into the z196's successor, which will allow using each technology in their sweet spot. There has been some talk about Watson working in medical diagnosis. Forgetting HIPPA issues for a minute, imagine having a process of using medical billing procedure codes to feed into Watson to look at trends, or assist in recommended procedures.
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
When you said total VM time I thought you meant for 1 virtual machine, since there are 2 fields with CPU time: All CPU time (sometimes called the total time) and Virtual time. But you are adding up all of the total time values to create an overall total. But, what you are adding up is the time for one virtual CPU (such as virtual CPU 0) for all machines. Virtual CPU 0 is not always run on Real CPU 0; it could be run on any real CPU, and the virtual CPU 0 from many machines can be run in parallel on your real CPUs. So, the total of all of these could add up to more than the connect time. It should be true, however, that the total of all of the consumed CPU time divided by the number of real CPUs should be less than the connect time. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is one example for one CP and one interval. snip -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: Watson
I heard this morning that Watson was going to Columbia University Medical Center. From: A. Harry Williams ha...@vm.marist.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 02/18/2011 03:08 PM Subject:Re: Watson Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:42:06 -0600 David Boyes said: I, too, wished IBM would do more to highlight the z series capabilities in public forums, but Watson is a massively parallel system (2K+ cores, I believe), and I have my doubts as to whether or not a collection of z10s could be integrated together tightly enough to meet the software's requirements. I could be wrong, however. :-) It could be done, but this is a case where it would have been the wrong choice. This is a vector-oriented SIMD problem (enormous numbers of simple comparisons on bits of data to determine if it has a right answer or not), and it's embarrassingly parallel in nature (very little shared data between comparisons, few locks, few context switches required). This is POWER's sweet spot, and forcing a Z into this role is probably not a good idea. This is not the kind of problem the Z arch is designed to solve. And to bring it back so the moderator doesn't yell again, as the System P is improved to handle this better, it will eventually be integrated into the z196's successor, which will allow using each technology in their sweet spot. There has been some talk about Watson working in medical diagnosis. Forgetting HIPPA issues for a minute, imagine having a process of using medical billing procedure codes to feed into Watson to look at trends, or assist in recommended procedures. *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Do you have more than one real CP? Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:55:45 -0700 From: derek.acker...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is one example for one CP and one interval. CPUADDR=0 INTERVAL USER CONECTTM CPUVIRT CPUTOTAL 19:30:28 AUDITOR 599 0.1750 0.2220 19:30:28 DISKACNT 599 0.0150 0.0380 19:30:28 EREP 599 0. 0.0020 19:30:28 FAQSEXEC 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FAQSVM 599 0.0030 0.0060 19:30:28 FTPIFOX 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FTPSERVE 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FWER 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 GCS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 HIDRO 599 33.1660 41.8210 19:30:28 IFXSERVE 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 LINMON 599 0.0020 0.0040 19:30:28 OPERATOR 599 0.0070 0.0160 19:30:28 OPERSYMP 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 OSASF 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 PGAR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 PHRO 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RAHM 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RMCG 599 0.0090 0.0320 19:30:28 RMSMASTR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RSCS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SESQ 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SKAN 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SK01 599 0.0050 0.0130 19:30:28 SPOOLER 599 0. 0.0010 19:30:28 SUBMITS 599 0.0020 0.0070 19:30:28 SYBCOM 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBLOG 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBMON 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBUSER 599 0.0020 0.0030 19:30:28 SYSCHECK 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYSLOGS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYSTEM 599 0. 11.0860 19:30:28 TCPIFOX 599 0.0380 0.0550 19:30:28 TCPIP 599 0.0070 0.0090 19:30:28 TMON 599 0.1720 0.1940 19:30:28 TS09 599 0.0740 0.0860 19:30:28 UACSERV 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UAFCSERV 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UNIJCL 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UNIPRD2 599 316.9930 401.7960 19:30:28 UNIPROD 599 291.7980 302.0340 19:30:28 UNITEST 599 0.7500 0.8200 19:30:28 VGLIBSRV 599 0.0020 0.0020 19:30:28 VMLIB 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVU 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMUTIL 599 0.0030 0.0050 19:30:28 VTAM 599 0.2320 0.3640 19:30:28 VTAMOP 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 WMOO 599 0. 0. INTERVAL 643.4550 758.6160 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the number of cpus? Ackerman, Derek wrote: Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Yes, there are 3. One or two guests uses the 3rd. Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc (206) 432-9737 || C: (206) 225-3585 || derek.acker...@infocrossing.com P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Do you have more than one real CP? Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:55:45 -0700 From: derek.acker...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is one example for one CP and one interval. CPUADDR=0 INTERVAL USER CONECTTM CPUVIRT CPUTOTAL 19:30:28 AUDITOR 599 0.1750 0.2220 19:30:28 DISKACNT 599 0.0150 0.0380 19:30:28 EREP 599 0. 0.0020 19:30:28 FAQSEXEC 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FAQSVM 599 0.0030 0.0060 19:30:28 FTPIFOX 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FTPSERVE 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 FWER 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 GCS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 HIDRO 599 33.1660 41.8210 19:30:28 IFXSERVE 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 LINMON 599 0.0020 0.0040 19:30:28 OPERATOR 599 0.0070 0.0160 19:30:28 OPERSYMP 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 OSASF 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 PGAR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 PHRO 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RAHM 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RMCG 599 0.0090 0.0320 19:30:28 RMSMASTR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 RSCS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SESQ 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SKAN 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SK01 599 0.0050 0.0130 19:30:28 SPOOLER 599 0. 0.0010 19:30:28 SUBMITS 599 0.0020 0.0070 19:30:28 SYBCOM 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBLOG 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBMON 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYBUSER 599 0.0020 0.0030 19:30:28 SYSCHECK 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYSLOGS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 SYSTEM 599 0. 11.0860 19:30:28 TCPIFOX 599 0.0380 0.0550 19:30:28 TCPIP 599 0.0070 0.0090 19:30:28 TMON 599 0.1720 0.1940 19:30:28 TS09 599 0.0740 0.0860 19:30:28 UACSERV 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UAFCSERV 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UNIJCL 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 UNIPRD2 599 316.9930 401.7960 19:30:28 UNIPROD 599 291.7980 302.0340 19:30:28 UNITEST 599 0.7500 0.8200 19:30:28 VGLIBSRV 599 0.0020 0.0020 19:30:28 VMLIB 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVR 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVS 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMSERVU 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 VMUTIL 599 0.0030 0.0050 19:30:28 VTAM 599 0.2320 0.3640 19:30:28 VTAMOP 599 0. 0. 19:30:28 WMOO 599 0. 0. INTERVAL 643.4550 758.6160 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the number of cpus? Ackerman, Derek wrote: Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential,
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
Anne, You'll need a FICON port attached to your SAN first of all. If one doesn't exist already, you'll need to get whomever is in charge of the hardware to do that. (Its all me here, so I get my hands into every level of it.) If you want to do multipathing, which is pretty common for SAN devices, then you'll need 2 FICON ports, possibly attached to different parts of the SAN topology. (You would need to consult your SAN folks on that.) Once you have one or more FICON ports connected to the SAN, you need to use HCD to define them to the Linux LPAR, including a set of real addresses. How many you have depends on whether your site is using NPIV for SAN addressing or not. (Hopefully, you have SAN people who can handle the fabric, zoning the WWPNs, etc.) Once you have the addresses available on your Linux LPAR, you'll need to define the paths and WWPNs in Linux. I'm not the expert on that, but I'm sure one of the others can help you with it. This was just an overview of the process. I hope it helps. Martha
Re: Watson
Bill Munson wrote: I heard this morning that Watson was going to Columbia University Medical Center. Hope it feels better soon! -- ...phsiii
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Derek, With 3 CP's, there are 3 seconds of CPU time available for each 1 second of wall time. That's why the total of all CPU used by all the virtual machines exceeds the wall time. In your case, you used 758 seconds of CPU time in aggregate over a period of 599 wall seconds on a VM system with 3 real CPUs, or about 42% capacity. Mark Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:37:10 -0700 From: derek.acker...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Yes, there are 3. One or two guests uses the 3rd. Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc (206) 432-9737 || C: (206) 225-3585 || derek.acker...@infocrossing.com P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Do you have more than one real CP? Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:55:45 -0700 From: derek.acker...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is one example for one CP and one interval. CPUADDR=0 INTERVAL USER CONECTTM CPUVIRT CPUTOTAL snip INTERVAL 643.4550 758.6160 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the number of cpus? Ackerman, Derek wrote: Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Hopefully you're converting the units. Virtual and Total time are in milliseconds and connect time is in seconds. Are you seeing this even after converting all of them to the same units? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I always thought that the total VM time, as well as the virtual, would be less than the connect time. Is it normal for the total time to be greater than the connect time? This happens a lot... Derek Ackerman Enterprise Capacity Planning Performance Management Infocrossing Inc Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: Watson
Our CE assembled him wonder if he has to disassemble him now Phil Smith p...@voltage.com To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System IBMVM@LISTSERV.U Subject ARK.EDU Re: Watson 02/18/2011 03:50 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.U ARK.EDU Bill Munson wrote: I heard this morning that Watson was going to Columbia University Medical Center. Hope it feels better soon! -- ...phsiii
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
On: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:05:07AM -0800,Barton Robinson Wrote: } and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the } number of cpus? Wouldn't it be closer to reality to multiply the connect time by the number of cpus? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I
keep them separate, here is an example.
CP#Cpu time Wall clock
2 198599
1 684599
0 758599
1640 1797
So you are saying it's okay that CPU0 and CPU1's time wall clock?
I don't agree with that. 1640 1797 okay, but the accounting is wrong!
CPUADDR=2
INTERVAL USER CONECTTM CPUVIRTCPUTOTAL
19:30:28SYSTEM 00. 9.3340
19:30:28UNIPROD 599 181.4350188.9860
INTERVAL 181.4350198.3200
CPUADDR=1
INTERVAL USER CONECTTM CPUVIRTCPUTOTAL
19:30:28SYSTEM 00. 9.3950
19:30:28UNIPRD2 599 314.4460398.7250
19:30:28UNIPROD 599 266.6670276.0360
19:30:28UNITEST 5990.5780 0.6260
INTERVAL 581.6910684.7820
CPUADDR=0
INTERVALUSERCONECTTM CPUVIRTCPUTOTAL
19:30:28AUDITOR5990.1750 0.2220
19:30:28DISKACNT 5990.0150 0.0380
19:30:28EREP 5990. 0.0020
19:30:28FAQSEXEC 5990. 0.
19:30:28FAQSVM 5990.0030 0.0060
19:30:28FTPIFOX5990. 0.
19:30:28FTPSERVE 5990. 0.
19:30:28FWER 5990. 0.
19:30:28GCS5990. 0.
19:30:28HIDRO 599 33.1660 41.8210
19:30:28IFXSERVE 5990. 0.
19:30:28LINMON 5990.0020 0.0040
19:30:28OPERATOR 5990.0070 0.0160
19:30:28OPERSYMP 5990. 0.
19:30:28OSASF 5990. 0.
19:30:28PGAR 5990. 0.
19:30:28PHRO 5990. 0.
19:30:28RAHM 5990. 0.
19:30:28RMCG 5990.0090 0.0320
19:30:28RMSMASTR 5990. 0.
19:30:28RSCS 5990. 0.
19:30:28SESQ 5990. 0.
19:30:28SKAN 5990. 0.
19:30:28SK01 5990.0050 0.0130
19:30:28SPOOLER5990. 0.0010
19:30:28SUBMITS5990.0020 0.0070
19:30:28SYBCOM 5990. 0.
19:30:28SYBLOG 5990. 0.
19:30:28SYBMON 5990. 0.
19:30:28SYBUSER5990.0020 0.0030
19:30:28SYSCHECK 5990. 0.
19:30:28SYSLOGS5990. 0.
19:30:28SYSTEM 5990. 11.0860
19:30:28TCPIFOX5990.0380 0.0550
19:30:28TCPIP 5990.0070 0.0090
19:30:28TMON 5990.1720 0.1940
19:30:28TS09 5990.0740 0.0860
19:30:28UACSERV5990. 0.
19:30:28UAFCSERV 5990. 0.
19:30:28UNIJCL 5990. 0.
19:30:28UNIPRD2599 316.9930401.7960
19:30:28UNIPROD599 291.7980302.0340
19:30:28UNITEST5990.7500 0.8200
19:30:28VGLIBSRV 5990.0020 0.0020
19:30:28VMLIB 5990. 0.
19:30:28VMSERVR5990. 0.
19:30:28VMSERVS5990. 0.
19:30:28VMSERVU5990. 0.
19:30:28VMUTIL 5990.0030 0.0050
19:30:28VTAM 5990.2320 0.3640
19:30:28VTAMOP 5990. 0.
19:30:28WMOO 5990. 0.
INTERVAL643.4550758.6160
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and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the
number of cpus?
Ackerman, Derek wrote:
Yes, and I always divide the CPU time by 1000.
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On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 AM
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Hopefully you're
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I am simply summing the total CPU times for each CP, for my report I keep them separate, here is an example. I believe you're confusing virtual CPUs with logical CPUs. The CPU number in your account record is for the virtual CPU of the guest (with exception of the SYSTEM record). A virtual CPU is not tied to a logical CPU, so your UNIPROD's CPU 00 gets dispatched on logical CPU 00, 01 or 02 as z/VM likes. It is even possible for a single virtual CPU to consume more cycles than the average of any of your logical CPUs (when it hopped from one to the other). Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/
help with DMSCGR DMSCSR esoterica
I have one of those is there ever any situation when ... would not be a good default questions, and I need the help of VM-savvy minds capable of perverse and twisted logic. I can't imagine a better place to find them than this list. (Yes, that was intended as a compliment.) As you all know, DMSCGR and DMSCSR are CSL routines which retrieve and set, respectively, the values of REXX variables. The default behavior is that the variable name passed is searched for directly in REXX's list of variables, exactly as passed. Optionally, the caller can ask that the name be both translated to upper case and that REXX perform variable name substitution on it before looking for it. (Since REXX doesn't care about case in variable names and some quick experiments confirm that passing mixed- or lower-case names without this option isn't productive [except of non-zero return codes], one could reasonably ask why the name is not always translated to upper-case. I think it's a very valid question, but more or less irrelevant to my problem.) In situations where everyone involved knows which behavior is desired, the choice between substitution or not isn't an issue. But if there's a situation where an end user will create REXX execs which pass a variable name to a program which will then retrieve or set it via these routines, it's more problematic ... or maybe not, if one or the other behavior is obviously preferable. Can anyone think of a situation in which you would *not* want substitution performed on the variable name passed? Typically, the whole reason you use compound REXX variables is to get that. But the writers of these routines didn't make that the default, so I want to know if there's some obvious situation we're missing where you wouldn't want it. (We've come up with one exotic case involving REXXVARS, but it's not one that seems likely to occur. In fact, it seems like the writer of the exec would almost have to be out to get you to code it that way.) Thanks, Steve -- Steve Marak -- sama...@gizmoworks.com
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Is a logical cpu equivalent to a physical cpu? I realize that the h/w now has multiple physical cpus, but I was brought up on System/360 and never have quite grokked how it is all controlled and accounted for! z/VM itself runs in an LPAR under control of PR/SM. And just like z/VM does for virtual machines, PR/SM will dispatch the LPAR's logical CPUs on any physical CPU as it sees fit. Even when you have a dedicated CPU, it's PR/SM who decides which physical CPU is dedicated to that logical CPU (for almost all the time). And we're not even talking about hot-sparing of CPUs You're in a maze and all CPUs look the same ;-) Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
Rob and Les wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Is a logical cpu equivalent to a physical cpu? I realize that the h/w now has multiple physical cpus, but I was brought up on System/360 and never have quite grokked how it is all controlled and accounted for! z/VM itself runs in an LPAR under control of PR/SM. And just like z/VM does for virtual machines, PR/SM will dispatch the LPAR's logical CPUs on any physical CPU as it sees fit. Even when you have a dedicated CPU, it's PR/SM who decides which physical CPU is dedicated to that logical CPU (for almost all the time). And we're not even talking about hot-sparing of CPUs You're in a maze and all CPUs look the same ;-) So then, suppose we state the problem In terms of PR/SM which is really just VM, the SIE (Start Interpretive Execution) instruction in firmware where LPARs become similar to Guest Machines. It is somewhat of an oversimplification though conceptually analogous. In terms of PR/SM: Logical CPs (LCPs) vs Physical CPs (PCPs) are simply a way of sharing the PCPs across the LPARs with a weighting factor. The PR/SM Planning Guide, Volume A05: 3.2.10.4 says it best. But in the following discussion be sure not to confuse logical partition (LP or LPAR) which is equivalent to a Guest Machine with a logical CP (LCP) which is equivalent to a virtual CP (VCP). When logical partitions(LPs) are dispatched then, and only then, will their logical CPs(LCPs) also get dispatched to physical CPs (PCPs). In the following excerpt, whenever you read logical partition think Guest Machine and whenever you read logical CP think virtual CP (VCP): Excerpt: Use of Processing Weights: Processing weights can range from 1 to 999 ° The processing weights for all active, sharing logical partitions are added together. This total is considered to be 100% of the processing resource available to shared processors. For example, the total processing weights for the logical partitions shown in Figure 52 in topic 3.3.4.1 is 1,300. ° The share of processing resources for each logical partition is calculated by dividing the processing weight for each sharing logical partition by the total processing weight. For example, at peak CP utilization levels, the dispatcher allocates shared processing resources to each of the logical partitions in Figure 52 in topic 3.3.4.1 as follows: DOSVSE 300/1300 = 23.1% MVSTEST 100/1300 = 7.7% VMHPO900/1300 = 69.2% ° The share of processing resource for each online logical processor is calculated by dividing the share for each logical partition by the number of online logical processors. For the logical partitions shown in Figure 52 in topic 3.3.4.1, the share for each logical processor is as follows: DOSVSE 23.1/1 CP = 23.1% MVSTEST 7.7/6 CPs = 1.3% VMHPO 69.2/2 CPs = 34.6% Processing weights are used to specify the portion of the shared processor resources allocated to a logical partition. Although PR/SM always manages sharing logical partitions according to the specified processing weights,there are times when a logical partition will receive either more or less than its processing share: ° A logical partition will receive more than its processing share when there is excess processor capacity, provided it has work to do and other logical partitions are not using their share. ° A logical partition will receive less than its processing share when its workload demand drops below the capacity specified by its weight. ° A logical partition will not receive more than its processing share when the processing resources for that logical partition are capped. The recommended procedure is to specify processing weights to satisfy the peak requirements of the logical partitions. End of excerpt: In the above example, although there are 9 LCPs with 900% CPU theoretically, in practice the would be allocated across the number of PCPs be it 1, 2, 6 or whatever.. And so the important factor is no what % of phyiscal CP (PCP) bu what % of logical CPU is being realized in each LPAR, Guest Machine. Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/18/2011 06:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files Is a logical cpu equivalent to a physical cpu? I realize that the h/w now has multiple physical cpus, but I was brought up on System/360 and never have quite grokked how it is all controlled and accounted for! Les Rob van der Heij wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Ackerman, Derek derek.acker...@infocrossing.com wrote: I am simply summing the total CPU times for
Re: VM Total time in $ACCOUNT files
how you do the arithmetic relates to the problem you are trying to solve Rich Greenberg wrote: On: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:05:07AM -0800,Barton Robinson Wrote: } and for linux servers with multiple cpus, you divide cputime by the } number of cpus? Wouldn't it be closer to reality to multiply the connect time by the number of cpus?
Re: help with DMSCGR DMSCSR esoterica
Oops! The last statement should be: say city.who Sorry! blush Les Les Koehler wrote: Rexx vars are always upper-cased *except* for 'content addressable arrays' (stemmed variables). For example: name='Les Koehler' city.name='Tampa' say 'Enter the name of the person and I''ll give you the city' parse pull who say city.name The concept is simple yet very powerful. I used it once to improve the elapsed time of matching a vendors individual transaction accounting records against his end of month accounting records from hours to a couple of minutes. The individual records and the monthly records did *not* have the same layout, but with this technique it was a snap to match them. Les Steve Marak wrote: I have one of those is there ever any situation when ... would not be a good default questions, and I need the help of VM-savvy minds capable of perverse and twisted logic. I can't imagine a better place to find them than this list. (Yes, that was intended as a compliment.) As you all know, DMSCGR and DMSCSR are CSL routines which retrieve and set, respectively, the values of REXX variables. The default behavior is that the variable name passed is searched for directly in REXX's list of variables, exactly as passed. Optionally, the caller can ask that the name be both translated to upper case and that REXX perform variable name substitution on it before looking for it. (Since REXX doesn't care about case in variable names and some quick experiments confirm that passing mixed- or lower-case names without this option isn't productive [except of non-zero return codes], one could reasonably ask why the name is not always translated to upper-case. I think it's a very valid question, but more or less irrelevant to my problem.) In situations where everyone involved knows which behavior is desired, the choice between substitution or not isn't an issue. But if there's a situation where an end user will create REXX execs which pass a variable name to a program which will then retrieve or set it via these routines, it's more problematic ... or maybe not, if one or the other behavior is obviously preferable. Can anyone think of a situation in which you would *not* want substitution performed on the variable name passed? Typically, the whole reason you use compound REXX variables is to get that. But the writers of these routines didn't make that the default, so I want to know if there's some obvious situation we're missing where you wouldn't want it. (We've come up with one exotic case involving REXXVARS, but it's not one that seems likely to occur. In fact, it seems like the writer of the exec would almost have to be out to get you to code it that way.) Thanks, Steve -- Steve Marak -- sama...@gizmoworks.com
