OSA-ICC

2010-07-28 Thread Carlos Bodra
 Hi Folks!
 I just can put my hands in a brand new z10 BC and all it's new
features. Previuos machine was an MP3000 H50.
 I was checkin about new features and one that comes up at 1st
requirement is to configure and use OSA-ICC,
 so I can put 02 old 3174 22L out of service and remove them from
room.
 I was checking OSA-ICC Users Guide, but read it demand some time, so
let me ask if anyone here has a cookbook
 fo how to configure it. If I undestood correctly, I should setup a
closed lan between stations that will have access as
 console, is this right?
 Can I use HMC as a station to have these sessions? 
 In other words, all hints and tips will be welcome.
 Thanks in advance
 Carlos Bodra


Re: OSA-ICC

2010-07-28 Thread Rich Smrcina

On 07/28/2010 07:53 PM, Carlos Bodra wrote:

Hi Folks!

I just can put my hands in a brand new z10 BC and all it's new 
features. Previuos machine was an MP3000 H50.
I was checkin about new features and one that comes up at 1st 
requirement is to configure and use OSA-ICC,

so I can put 02 old 3174 22L out of service and remove them from room.
I was checking OSA-ICC Users Guide, but read it demand some time, so 
let me ask if anyone here has a cookbook
fo how to configure it. If I undestood correctly, I should setup a 
closed lan between stations that will have access as

console, is this right?
Can I use HMC as a station to have these sessions?
In other words, all hints and tips will be welcome.

Thanks in advance

Carlos Bodra



Carlos,

Take a look on the redbooks site for OSA-Express Integrated Console 
Controller Implementation Guide:


http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246364.html?Open

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Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:

Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro
can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.

To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
- a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
press enter, or PA1, ..
- in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
- TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN

Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC is
supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
problem.

Any comments?  Is it working on your system?

-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other
real 3270s and like LDEV.





On 2010-03-31, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:

 Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro
 can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
 needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
 inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
 status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.

 To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
 - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
 press enter, or PA1, ..
 - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
 - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN

 Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
 break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
 userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC is
 supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
 problem.

 Any comments?  Is it working on your system?

 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support


-- 
Sent from my mobile device

-- R;   


Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
[oopppsss - try again]

ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other
real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
control.

There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

-- R;   





On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:39, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:

 Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro
 can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
 needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
 inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
 status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.

 To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
 - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
 press enter, or PA1, ..
 - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
 - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN

 Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
 break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
 userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC is
 supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
 problem.

 Any comments?  Is it working on your system?

 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support



Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Sorry, not related to HOLD at LOGOFF for example (to CP it appears as a real
3270, hence no HOLD operand).

It is pure 3270 behaviour, not even really related to VM: how can one break
in when in input inhibited

I am in fullscreen XEDIT, hence the linemode command input area is not
available.  Cannot use Alan's trick.

subject deviation
Alan's trick is to create another VM READ than the program prompt VM READ,
you use it when a for example REXX exec places you in VM READ with a PARSE
PULL (or PARSE EXTERNAL) and you want to enter an immediate CMS command
(like HX, HI or TS).  With the cursor trick, the program prompt VM  READ
becomes a VM READ by CMS' attention interrupt handler.

Maybe easier to remember: when in the program prompt VM READ and you want to
enter an immediate command like TS, enter #TS (that is: place a linend
character before the immediate command).  Not exactly the same as moving the
cursor, With my alternative: the program prompt is satisfied with a null
response and then the immediate command is honored.  Wit the cursor trick,
the immediate command is honored, then you return to the program prompt.
/subject deviation

My issue remains: how can one reset Input inhibited on an OSA ICC 3270?

2010/3/31 Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com

 [oopppsss - try again]

 ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other
 real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

 But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
 ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
 control.

 There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
 putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
 line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
 emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
 be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

 -- R;   





 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:39, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:
 
  Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT
 macro
  can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
  needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
  inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
  status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.
 
  To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
  - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
  press enter, or PA1, ..
  - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
  - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN
 
  Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
  break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
  userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC
 is
  supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
  problem.
 
  Any comments?  Is it working on your system?
 
  --
  Kris Buelens,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Coffin
When you have a fullscreen app (like XEDIT, or DMS, ISPF, etc.) doing a
full-screen write to the 3270, I don't think there is any way to interrupt
it to get to CMS.

 

A couple of tricks would include sending a CP MSG from any other userid
(or even a terminal with no user logged on, CP MSG is CLASS * by default),
that interrupts the full-screen write and you can get to CMS for HX, HI, TI,
TS, or any other CMS-IMMEDIATE command.  Another trick is to do a LOGON HERE
from another terminal, when you reconnect you may have an opportunity to
stuff in a CMS-IMMEDIATE command before the full-screen write resumes.

 

-Mike

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

 

Sorry, not related to HOLD at LOGOFF for example (to CP it appears as a real
3270, hence no HOLD operand).

It is pure 3270 behaviour, not even really related to VM: how can one break
in when in input inhibited 

I am in fullscreen XEDIT, hence the linemode command input area is not
available.  Cannot use Alan's trick.

subject deviation
Alan's trick is to create another VM READ than the program prompt VM READ,
you use it when a for example REXX exec places you in VM READ with a PARSE
PULL (or PARSE EXTERNAL) and you want to enter an immediate CMS command
(like HX, HI or TS).  With the cursor trick, the program prompt VM  READ
becomes a VM READ by CMS' attention interrupt handler.

Maybe easier to remember: when in the program prompt VM READ and you want to
enter an immediate command like TS, enter #TS (that is: place a linend
character before the immediate command).  Not exactly the same as moving the
cursor, With my alternative: the program prompt is satisfied with a null
response and then the immediate command is honored.  Wit the cursor trick,
the immediate command is honored, then you return to the program prompt.
/subject deviation

My issue remains: how can one reset Input inhibited on an OSA ICC 3270?

2010/3/31 Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com

[oopppsss - try again]


ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other

real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
control.

There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

-- R;   






On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:39, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:

 Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT
macro
 can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
 needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
 inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
 status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.

 To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
 - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
 press enter, or PA1, ..
 - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
 - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN

 Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
 break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
 userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC
is
 supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
 problem.

 Any comments?  Is it working on your system?

 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support





-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support



Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Sorry to disagree: on all 3270 implementations I used (apart this OSA ICC)
it was and is possible to interrupt a fullscreen appl like XEDIT.  I
debugged too many XEDIT macros not to be 101% sure of this.
(and a few hours ago I did it again on a PCOMM TN3270 telnetted into VM
TCPIP.  In PCOMM, by default the ESC key is set to [sys attn], pressing it
brings you from your locked XEDIT directly in CP READ, then press PA1 and
you have a VM READ to enter TS).

This unlock problem may make me switch back from OSA ICC to plain TN3270.
(it is less frequent I have to restart VM's TCPIP stack than I want to
breakin in a runaway XEDIT macro.

2010/3/31 Michael Coffin michaelcof...@mccci.com

  When you have a fullscreen app (like XEDIT, or DMS, ISPF, etc.) doing a
 full-screen write to the 3270, I don’t think there is any way to interrupt
 it to get to CMS.



 A couple of “tricks” would include sending a CP MSG from any other userid
 (or even a terminal with no user logged on, CP MSG is CLASS * by default),
 that interrupts the full-screen write and you can get to CMS for HX, HI, TI,
 TS, or any other CMS-IMMEDIATE command.  Another trick is to do a LOGON HERE
 from another terminal, when you reconnect you may have an opportunity to
 stuff in a CMS-IMMEDIATE command before the full-screen write resumes.



 -Mike



 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On
 Behalf Of *Kris Buelens
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:25 AM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC



 Sorry, not related to HOLD at LOGOFF for example (to CP it appears as a
 real 3270, hence no HOLD operand).

 It is pure 3270 behaviour, not even really related to VM: how can one break
 in when in input inhibited

 I am in fullscreen XEDIT, hence the linemode command input area is not
 available.  Cannot use Alan's trick.

 subject deviation
 Alan's trick is to create another VM READ than the program prompt VM
 READ, you use it when a for example REXX exec places you in VM READ with a
 PARSE PULL (or PARSE EXTERNAL) and you want to enter an immediate CMS
 command (like HX, HI or TS).  With the cursor trick, the program prompt VM
 READ becomes a VM READ by CMS' attention interrupt handler.

 Maybe easier to remember: when in the program prompt VM READ and you want
 to enter an immediate command like TS, enter #TS (that is: place a linend
 character before the immediate command).  Not exactly the same as moving the
 cursor, With my alternative: the program prompt is satisfied with a null
 response and then the immediate command is honored.  Wit the cursor trick,
 the immediate command is honored, then you return to the program prompt.
 /subject deviation

 My issue remains: how can one reset Input inhibited on an OSA ICC 3270?

 2010/3/31 Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com

 [oopppsss - try again]


 ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other

 real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

 But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
 ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
 control.

 There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
 putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
 line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
 emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
 be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

 -- R;   






 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:39, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:
 
  Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT
 macro
  can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
  needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
  inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
  status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.
 
  To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
  - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
  press enter, or PA1, ..
  - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
  - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN
 
  Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means to
  break in (apart from Communication - Disconnect or using some other
  userid to send a CP Message/Warning to the user in trouble).  An OSA ICC
 is
  supposed to simulate a non-SNA 3270, it does it well, except for this
  problem.
 
  Any comments?  Is it working on your system?
 
  --
  Kris Buelens,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 




 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Coffin
Hi Kris,

 

Perhaps you are correct, I thought there was ONE true 3270 key that would
interrupt a full-screen write - but I haven't seen it in over a decade.  I
use Attachmate InfoConnect (a.k.a. Extra!) TN3270 emulator and there is no
way to define SYS ATTN (there is a SYS REQ, and ATTN, but no SYS ATTN).  One
more reason not to like this product, and wish I had PCOMM.  L

 

Thanks for the info, I'll file away the SYS ATTN info into my folder of VM
tips (even if I can't use it myself).  J

 

-Mike

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:12 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

 

Sorry to disagree: on all 3270 implementations I used (apart this OSA ICC)
it was and is possible to interrupt a fullscreen appl like XEDIT.  I
debugged too many XEDIT macros not to be 101% sure of this.
(and a few hours ago I did it again on a PCOMM TN3270 telnetted into VM
TCPIP.  In PCOMM, by default the ESC key is set to [sys attn], pressing it
brings you from your locked XEDIT directly in CP READ, then press PA1 and
you have a VM READ to enter TS).

This unlock problem may make me switch back from OSA ICC to plain TN3270.
(it is less frequent I have to restart VM's TCPIP stack than I want to
breakin in a runaway XEDIT macro.

2010/3/31 Michael Coffin michaelcof...@mccci.com

When you have a fullscreen app (like XEDIT, or DMS, ISPF, etc.) doing a
full-screen write to the 3270, I don't think there is any way to interrupt
it to get to CMS.

 

A couple of tricks would include sending a CP MSG from any other userid
(or even a terminal with no user logged on, CP MSG is CLASS * by default),
that interrupts the full-screen write and you can get to CMS for HX, HI, TI,
TS, or any other CMS-IMMEDIATE command.  Another trick is to do a LOGON HERE
from another terminal, when you reconnect you may have an opportunity to
stuff in a CMS-IMMEDIATE command before the full-screen write resumes.

 

-Mike

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

 

Sorry, not related to HOLD at LOGOFF for example (to CP it appears as a real
3270, hence no HOLD operand).

It is pure 3270 behaviour, not even really related to VM: how can one break
in when in input inhibited 

I am in fullscreen XEDIT, hence the linemode command input area is not
available.  Cannot use Alan's trick.

subject deviation
Alan's trick is to create another VM READ than the program prompt VM READ,
you use it when a for example REXX exec places you in VM READ with a PARSE
PULL (or PARSE EXTERNAL) and you want to enter an immediate CMS command
(like HX, HI or TS).  With the cursor trick, the program prompt VM  READ
becomes a VM READ by CMS' attention interrupt handler.

Maybe easier to remember: when in the program prompt VM READ and you want to
enter an immediate command like TS, enter #TS (that is: place a linend
character before the immediate command).  Not exactly the same as moving the
cursor, With my alternative: the program prompt is satisfied with a null
response and then the immediate command is honored.  Wit the cursor trick,
the immediate command is honored, then you return to the program prompt.
/subject deviation

My issue remains: how can one reset Input inhibited on an OSA ICC 3270?

2010/3/31 Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com

[oopppsss - try again]


ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other

real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
control.

There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

-- R;   






On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 05:39, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC:

 Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT
macro
 can be done by entering a TS command in the command area.  But, first one
 needs to get the commandline.  A bit difficult as the 3270 is in input
 inhibited (a green led on real 3277's, an X with the clock icon in the
 status area nowadays) and the display is in fullscreen mode.

 To get the command line, what is required depends on the terminal type
 - a real non-SNA 3270: press the reset key (the stop input Inhibited) and
 press enter, or PA1, ..
 - in SNA: press the ATTN key then enter, or PA1, ...
 - TN3270 with PCOMM: press ATTN

 Today, on my PCOMM connected to an OSA ICC on a z10, I found no means

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 06:47 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other
 real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

ICC has no idea that you have logged off.  Unlike 3270 printer sessions, 
there is no provision in the display data stream for an EOF marker to tell 
the telnet server that the host is finished.  And if there were, we'd have 
to provide a TERMINAL LOGOFF HOLD|NOHOLD command to control it since 50% 
of you would hate it either way.  (I wish I had that already; I always 
LOGOFF HOLD.)

 But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
 ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
 control.
 
 There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
 putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
 line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
 emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
 be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

You're right that TN3270E doesn't behave like a real 3270, particularly in 
the area of Attention processing.  A 3270 control unit can do whatever it 
wants to get the host's attention .  With TN3270, the client is at the 
mercy of (a) the protocol, (b) the telnet server implementation, and (c) 
the interface the telnet server uses to create sessions.

I have to contradict Kris:  TN3270 doesn't have an ATTN function for 
non-SNA emulation (as is done by VM and ICC).   This is why the 
backspace-and-press-enter hack was invented; it provides the old-school 
3215 ATTN function in a new-school 3270 environment.  Oh, and the RFCs 
require a telnet server to ignore any telnet IP (Interrupt Process) 
commands it receives on a TN3270 session.  IMO, the 3270 architects did us 
a disservice by not providing ATTN for non-SNA connections.

So while pressing the RESET key unlocks the keyboard, there's nothing the 
TN3270 client can do to get the telnet server's attention.  The ATTN hack 
doesn't work in the fullscreen app since CP isn't doing the 3215-3270 
conversions.  Therefore, if you're in a fullscreen app that has issued 
TERM BRKKEY NONE, then you can easily find yourself trapped (as the author 
intended?) in the app unless you have outside help (e.g. CP MSG/WNG or 
DISC/LOGON).  If you have SET RUN ON, the DISC/LOGON sequence won't help.

If you can get the console into line mode, then you *may* be able to get 
out.  It depends on how creative (annoying) the app was.  But as long as 
you're in fullscreen, you're stuck.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Kris Buelens
Maybe the problem is that pressing Reset on an OSA ICC doesn't do anything
(but that's that same on a TN3270 into VM).

You say that TN3270 doesn't have an ATTN function for non-SNA.  I guess
that's true.  But, PCOMM does allow you to assign a key to [sys attn] and it
can appear on a popup panel as 'attention', and -when connected to VM's
TCPIP Telnet deamon- that key/function brings me directly in CP READ.  In
any case, from a locked fullscreen, from an not locked fullscreen, from
linemode.

I know one can turn this off by setting BRKKEY NONE (also part of CONCEAL
ON).  Countless are the VM sysprogs to which I told don't run like this,
you need the break key in looping conditions after which I gave a short
demo.

Maybe there's no bug in OSA ICC: in an earlier append I said breaking in was
different depending on the terminal type, and with OSA ICC one has a mix.
It could be fixed if OSA ICC would translate this [sys attn] into an unlock.

2010/3/31 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com

 On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 06:47 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other
  real 3270s and like LDEV.  That's a whole nutha discussion.

 ICC has no idea that you have logged off.  Unlike 3270 printer sessions,
 there is no provision in the display data stream for an EOF marker to tell
 the telnet server that the host is finished.  And if there were, we'd have
 to provide a TERMINAL LOGOFF HOLD|NOHOLD command to control it since 50%
 of you would hate it either way.  (I wish I had that already; I always
 LOGOFF HOLD.)

  But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1?  (I'm not used to an
  ATTN sequence for PA1.)  You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get
  control.
 
  There's also the trick, I think I learned from Alan Altmark, of
  putting the cursor back one position from the start of the command
  line then Enter for a VM READ.  It's a hack.  (IMHO)  Your 3270
  emulator may affect the viability of this behaviour.  You MIGHT then
  be able to TS.  Alan?  Wanna clarify this?

 You're right that TN3270E doesn't behave like a real 3270, particularly in
 the area of Attention processing.  A 3270 control unit can do whatever it
 wants to get the host's attention .  With TN3270, the client is at the
 mercy of (a) the protocol, (b) the telnet server implementation, and (c)
 the interface the telnet server uses to create sessions.

 I have to contradict Kris:  TN3270 doesn't have an ATTN function for
 non-SNA emulation (as is done by VM and ICC).   This is why the
 backspace-and-press-enter hack was invented; it provides the old-school
 3215 ATTN function in a new-school 3270 environment.  Oh, and the RFCs
 require a telnet server to ignore any telnet IP (Interrupt Process)
 commands it receives on a TN3270 session.  IMO, the 3270 architects did us
 a disservice by not providing ATTN for non-SNA connections.

 So while pressing the RESET key unlocks the keyboard, there's nothing the
 TN3270 client can do to get the telnet server's attention.  The ATTN hack
 doesn't work in the fullscreen app since CP isn't doing the 3215-3270
 conversions.  Therefore, if you're in a fullscreen app that has issued
 TERM BRKKEY NONE, then you can easily find yourself trapped (as the author
 intended?) in the app unless you have outside help (e.g. CP MSG/WNG or
 DISC/LOGON).  If you have SET RUN ON, the DISC/LOGON sequence won't help.

 If you can get the console into line mode, then you *may* be able to get
 out.  It depends on how creative (annoying) the app was.  But as long as
 you're in fullscreen, you're stuck.

 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott




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OSA-ICC Availability on a 2066-003

2009-11-19 Thread Brian Ferguson
I got a query from one of my accounts.

They have a spare port on an OSA card (OSA Express) and are of the opinio
n 
that they can use that port to do an Integrated Console.

And then they could drop some additional hardware/software that is costin
g 
them money.   

I've tried digging around, but I can't find a definitive answer.
(I think I must not be getting a keyword right in my search)

I think it won't work because the microcode for it is just not present in
 
the 2066, even though the OSA card itself could.

Anybody care to tell me where I can find a definitive answer?

Brian 


Re: OSA-ICC Availability on a 2066-003

2009-11-19 Thread Tom Huegel
Search on Integrated Communication Controller (ICC) ...
Available on z/890/990 and later ..

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Brian Ferguson brian.fergu...@eds.comwrote:

 I got a query from one of my accounts.

 They have a spare port on an OSA card (OSA Express) and are of the opinion
 that they can use that port to do an Integrated Console.

 And then they could drop some additional hardware/software that is costing
 them money.

 I've tried digging around, but I can't find a definitive answer.
 (I think I must not be getting a keyword right in my search)

 I think it won't work because the microcode for it is just not present in
 the 2066, even though the OSA card itself could.

 Anybody care to tell me where I can find a definitive answer?

 Brian



Re: Setting up osa-icc settings

2008-09-01 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Here is the buildsessions.the macro.
Shimon

/* */
 
/* THE macro to build ICC session configuration.

   input: BuildSessions.txt
   output: Buildsessions.cfg

   The name BuildSessions can be any file name.

   Input file := setup options
   Server definition 
   sessions definition
   
   setup options := option start option statement... option end
   option start  := OPTIONS
   option statement  := A REXX statement to be interpreted and performed
   option end:= /OPTIONS

   Server definition := copied text from exported config.

   sessions definition := config start input line... config end
   config start  := CONFIG_SESSION
   config end:= /CONFIG_SESSION
   input line:= LU-def MIF-def
   LU-def:= LU=name_of_LU
   MIF-def   := MIF=n

Session numbers are consecutive from SESSION1 for the first defined session.

Device addresses are consecutive within MIF. That is, first session 
defined with MIF=1 will be the starting device address (defaults to B000), 
second for MIF=1 will be the next address (B001),
and first in MIF=2 will again be the starting address (default B000).

To set the starting address of an LPAR, use this option line:
'devaddr.5 = 16' which means Set the first device in MIF=5 to 16, 
X'010', resulting in (after appending to 'B') an address of 'B010'.

*/

/* if this macro is not in THE's macro path, use:
SET MACROPATH path[;path...]
e.g. SET MACROPATH D:\pub\DOCS\z890
 (to paste the SET MACROPATH line into the THE session
  from the Windows clipboard, position the THE cursor 
  on the edit command line, and right-click.)

   usage: open the input file with THE, at the command line type:
  buildsessions
  the macro will close the THE session after creating the output file.
*/

TRACE N  

parse source . . nameofthismacro
'extract /fpath/fname/filename' /* get info about input file */
output = fpath.1 || fname.1 || .cfg   /* same path, same fn, new ext 
*/
input  = fpath.1 || filename.1  /* save full name of input file 
*/

'x' output  /* switch to new? output file 
*/
'bot'   /* follow any existing data */
'input // This file has been generated by the THE macro' nameofthismacro
'save'  /* save with ID comment */

'x' input   /* switch to input file */
'top'   /* check for run options */
'locate /OPTIONS/'/* start of options info - 
reqd! */
'locate +1' /* first opt line? */
optcount = 0
DO WHILE RC = 0
   'extract /curline/'  /* current option line */
   if curline.3 = '/OPTIONS'  /* end of section */
  then RC = 999 /* exit loop */
  else do   /* save the option statement */
   optcount = optcount + 1
   optlist.optcount = curline.3
   'locate +1'
   end
   end /* DO WHILE */

'top'   /* find and copy entire 
serverdef */
'locate /OSC_SERVER/ set point .s' 
'locate $/OSC_SERVER$ +1 set point .e' 
'locate .s put .e'  /* put to temp file */
'x' output  /* switch to output and get it 
*/
'get'
'bot'   /* move cursor past server def 
*/

'x' input
'locate .s set point .s OFF'/* remove .points in input file 
*/
'locate .e set point .e OFF'
'locate -1'/* back to end of server defs */

devaddr. = 0   /* starting value for all devaddrs */
sessnum = 1/* starting value for session number */
do opt_I = 1 to optcount
   optline = optlist.opt_I
   interpret optline
end /* do opt_I */

/* begin main loop - read and copy all non LU lines. */
/* - convert LU lines to full session definition */
/* each loop iteration begins with focus on *input* file */

'locate +1'/* for RC=0 of loop */

DO WHILE RC = 0
   'extract /curline/' /* current *input* line */
   SELECT
 when left(curline.3,1) = '*'
then NOP   /* allow commenting of input lines */ 
 when left(curline.3,3) = LU=
then call createLU /* go create a session in the output file */
 otherwise do
 'x' output/* just copy this line into the output file 
*/
 'input' curline.3
 'x' input /* and return to input for next iteration */
 end
   END /* of SELECT */
   'locate +1' /* advance till EOF gives non-zero RC */
END
 
'x' output /* all output has been created */

Re: question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-09-01 Thread David Kreuter
HMC worksheet? Who fills that in? What's wrong with a napkin?
David



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Alan Altmark
Sent: Mon 9/1/2008 1:54 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] question to backup of osa-icc settings



On Saturday, 08/30/2008 at 05:42 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 when I do the export the message appears that the ftp connection failed.
 I just cannot give you the exact message, cause it's a customer machine
 and I'm not always there. On September 8th. I'm again at another
 customer with the same problem where I can try it and give you the exact
 message. Because of the ping behaviour I have thought that it is a
 routing problem. Must the nat bridge explicitly be switched on or should
 it run by default or must perhaps the firewall be configured?

I suggest opening a hardware PMR.  The HMC installation worksheet includes
references to IP address configuration in the both the HMC *and* the SEs,
so things may not work as I described.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-09-01 Thread Adam Thornton

On Sep 1, 2008, at 7:04 PM, David Kreuter wrote:


HMC worksheet? Who fills that in? What's wrong with a napkin?


This one has mustard on it.

At least, I *hope* it's mustard.

Adam


Re: question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-08-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 08/30/2008 at 05:42 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 when I do the export the message appears that the ftp connection failed.
 I just cannot give you the exact message, cause it's a customer machine
 and I'm not always there. On September 8th. I'm again at another
 customer with the same problem where I can try it and give you the exact
 message. Because of the ping behaviour I have thought that it is a
 routing problem. Must the nat bridge explicitly be switched on or should
 it run by default or must perhaps the firewall be configured?

I suggest opening a hardware PMR.  The HMC installation worksheet includes 
references to IP address configuration in the both the HMC *and* the SEs, 
so things may not work as I described.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-08-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alan,

when I do the export the message appears that the ftp connection failed. 
I just cannot give you the exact message, cause it's a customer machine 
and I'm not always there. On September 8th. I'm again at another 
customer with the same problem where I can try it and give you the exact 
message. Because of the ping behaviour I have thought that it is a 
routing problem. Must the nat bridge explicitly be switched on or should 
it run by default or must perhaps the firewall be configured?


kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen


Alan Altmark schrieb:
On Friday, 08/29/2008 at 10:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I want to backup OSA-ICC settings to an ftp server. the HMC has one
address in the company's lan and the other adapter connected to the
support elements lan. The support elements have no connection to the
company's lan but a route to it over the hmc. On the ftp server I have
configured a route to the support elements lan also over the hmc. I can
ping the hmc ip address of the support elements lan but not the support
element itself. The reverse connection from the support elements works
also only up to the company's lan ip address of the hmc but not to the
ftp server. So I 'm sure that the hmc is not able to route the packets.
I have also enabled the routed in the network customization of hmc and
support element but this had no effect. Is there a way to let the hmc
act as a router for the support elements? I have attached a text file
with a little picture of the network environment.



I assume you're trying to Export source file via FTP in OSA-ICC Advanced 
Facilities.  What error are you getting?


IIRC there is a NAT bridge in the HMC to handle any needed SE 
communications and you do not need (or want!) any IP routing changes to 
use the Export via FTP function.  Since the FTP is initiated from the SE 
via OSA-ICC AF the HMC will open the NATted port.  (There are firewalls in 
the HMC to protect itself and the HMC-SE LAN.)


Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

  


question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-08-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi listers,

I want to backup OSA-ICC settings to an ftp server. the HMC has one 
address in the company's lan and the other adapter connected to the 
support elements lan. The support elements have no connection to the 
company's lan but a route to it over the hmc. On the ftp server I have 
configured a route to the support elements lan also over the hmc. I can 
ping the hmc ip address of the support elements lan but not the support 
element itself. The reverse connection from the support elements works 
also only up to the company's lan ip address of the hmc but not to the 
ftp server. So I 'm sure that the hmc is not able to route the packets. 
I have also enabled the routed in the network customization of hmc and 
support element but this had no effect. Is there a way to let the hmc 
act as a router for the support elements? I have attached a text file 
with a little picture of the network environment.

--
kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen
,---,
no ping ! FTP server!
  LAN 172.17.0.2 -!
  !!!   !
  !! route to 182.158.0.0/255.255.0.0   !   !
  !!   over 172.17.2.51 !   !
  !''   !
  !!!
  ! --  !
  ! ! company's lan  !  !
  ! ! 172.17.0.0/255.255.0.0 !  !
  ! --  !
  !!!
  !!!
  !,,   !
  ! ping works ! HMC!   !
  !---LAN 172.17.2.51!   !
  !!!   !
  !! ping works !   !
  !! LAN 182.158.10.100 --!---!
  !''   !
  !   ! !
  ! --- !
  ! ! support element's lan   ! !
  ! ! 182.158.0.0/255.255.0.0 ! !
  ! --- !
  !!!
  !,,   !
  !! Support Element   no ping  !   !
  -LAN 182.158.10.20 --!
   !!
   ! route to 182.158.0.0/255.255.0.0   !
   !   over 182.158.10.100  !
   ''


Re: question to backup of osa-icc settings

2008-08-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/29/2008 at 10:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to backup OSA-ICC settings to an ftp server. the HMC has one
 address in the company's lan and the other adapter connected to the
 support elements lan. The support elements have no connection to the
 company's lan but a route to it over the hmc. On the ftp server I have
 configured a route to the support elements lan also over the hmc. I can
 ping the hmc ip address of the support elements lan but not the support
 element itself. The reverse connection from the support elements works
 also only up to the company's lan ip address of the hmc but not to the
 ftp server. So I 'm sure that the hmc is not able to route the packets.
 I have also enabled the routed in the network customization of hmc and
 support element but this had no effect. Is there a way to let the hmc
 act as a router for the support elements? I have attached a text file
 with a little picture of the network environment.

I assume you're trying to Export source file via FTP in OSA-ICC Advanced 
Facilities.  What error are you getting?

IIRC there is a NAT bridge in the HMC to handle any needed SE 
communications and you do not need (or want!) any IP routing changes to 
use the Export via FTP function.  Since the FTP is initiated from the SE 
via OSA-ICC AF the HMC will open the NATted port.  (There are firewalls in 
the HMC to protect itself and the HMC-SE LAN.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread phillip
I am attempting to set up Ubuntu with x3270 as our OPERATOR terminal.
it connects with the ICC and i can specify the LU and all that and it 
works fine.
the problem i have is that i cannot get the Clear() function mapped to a 
key

in the default x3270 config file .x3270pro i have tried it mapped to 
various keys:
KeyEscape:  Clear()\n\
KeyPrint:  Clear()\n\
KeyPause:  Clear()\n\
KeyNext:  Clear()\n\

after restarting x3270 after each change to .x3270pro none of them do a 
clear screen.

AltKeyc:  Clear()\n\ 
does work, but the operators are used to pushing Pause

i have even defined a macro in .x3270pro and that works.
but my preference is to map it to a key - which i can't get to work.

any ideas?

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Smrcina

Phil,

I haven't examined the man page for shorthand notation, but my .x3270pro 
uses the keyword 'Keypress':


x3270.keymap.rks0: #override  \
:KeyPressControl_L:   Reset()\n\
:KeyPressControl_R:   Enter()\n\
:KeyPressReturn:  Newline()  \n\
KeyPressEscape:   Clear()


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am attempting to set up Ubuntu with x3270 as our OPERATOR terminal.
it connects with the ICC and i can specify the LU and all that and it 
works fine.
the problem i have is that i cannot get the Clear() function mapped to a 
key


in the default x3270 config file .x3270pro i have tried it mapped to 
various keys:

KeyEscape:  Clear()\n\
KeyPrint:  Clear()\n\
KeyPause:  Clear()\n\
KeyNext:  Clear()\n\

after restarting x3270 after each change to .x3270pro none of them do a 
clear screen.


AltKeyc:  Clear()\n\
does work, but the operators are used to pushing Pause

i have even defined a macro in .x3270pro and that works.
but my preference is to map it to a key - which i can't get to work.

any ideas?

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL


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Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread phillip
Rich,

the man page consistently uses Key

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Smrcina

Is your .x3270pro in the home directory of the user that is invoking x3270?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rich,

the man page consistently uses Key

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL


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Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread phillip
Rich,

Is your .x3270pro in the home directory of the user that is invoking 
x3270?
yes, it is.  in fact, i have added macros to .x3270pro and they show up 
the next time i start a session.

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread phillip
one other anoying thing is that you have to click and hold to keep a menu 
displayed.
is there a X window option to overide this behavior?

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:59:06PM -0500,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:

} the man page consistently uses Key
} 
} prg

Phil.
Man pages occasionally lie.

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Re: OSA ICC OPERATOR console via x3270

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Smrcina

I changed mine to Key and it still worked.

Phil, for what it's worth here's my whole .x3270pro if you want to give 
it a try:


x3270.showTiming: True
x3270.model: 2
x3270.emulatorFont: 3270-12
x3270.allowResize: true
x3270.reconnect: true
x3270.hostsFile: ~/ibm_hosts
x3270.keymap: rks0
x3270.keymap.rks0: #override  \
:KeyPressControl_L:   Reset()\n\
:KeyPressControl_R:   Enter()\n\
:KeyPressReturn:  Newline()  \n\
KeyPressEscape:   Clear()


Rich Greenberg wrote:

On: Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:59:06PM -0500,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:

} the man page consistently uses Key
} 
} prg


Phil.
Man pages occasionally lie.



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Re: x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-05-01 Thread Kim Goldenberg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


i am setting this up using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
i DL the source for x3270 and pulled out the missing fonts.
i had to convert them (bdftopcf) and then gzip them.
i copied them into the correct font directory and did dirfont or 
something like that

to rebuild the font directory.
All to no avail - x3270 still does not pick them up. oh well.


Strange - I just installed Hardy (8.04) and installed the latest x3270 
(x3270-3.3.7p3.tgz) from the x3270 site, and have all the fonts, 
including the 24 and 32 point versions. I followed the installation 
instructions, had to add the X11 and Athena widgit development packages, 
installed clean and works great (on x64 processor even!).


Kim

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Re: x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-05-01 Thread Kim Goldenberg

Mark Jacobs wrote:

Did you perform a XHOST FP REHASH command after you installed the fonts?

  That command is xset and it should be lower case: xset fp rehash

Kim
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Re: x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-04-30 Thread phillip
i am setting this up using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
i DL the source for x3270 and pulled out the missing fonts.
i had to convert them (bdftopcf) and then gzip them.
i copied them into the correct font directory and did dirfont or something 
like that 
to rebuild the font directory.
All to no avail - x3270 still does not pick them up. oh well.

it turns out that just changing the screen resolution and picking model 3 
actually gives us a workable console.

note: debian does have a separate package for the x3270 fonts, but it is 
just the same fonts that are in the main package in a smaller package so 
they
can be installed on a font server. i installed them, but it didn't get me 
the rest 
of the fonts.

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 
04/30/2008 04:40:32 AM:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  anyone using linux + x3270 for OSA ICC consoles?
  
  the latest xfonts-3270-misc does not include two of the larger fonts:
  3270gt24  3270gt32 
  any suggestions on other fonts to use on X 
  or how to get these larger fonts?
 
 What Linux distribution are you using? They seem to split up the
 various parts of the x3270 suite in different ways (core, X part,
 text/script part, fonts...). For Fedora Core 6 and RHEL4, the fonts
 (including 3270gt4) are in the x3270-x11 rpm and for SLES10 they're
 in the x3270 rpm. Check and see if your distro has broken the fonts
 out differently into some other package.
 
 --Malcolm
 
 -- 
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 System z SWG/STG, Europe
 IBM UK
 


Re: x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Did you perform a XHOST FP REHASH command after you installed the fonts?
 
Mark Jacobs



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:39 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: x3270 for OSA ICC



i am setting this up using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS 
i DL the source for x3270 and pulled out the missing fonts. 
i had to convert them (bdftopcf) and then gzip them. 
i copied them into the correct font directory and did dirfont or
something like that 
to rebuild the font directory. 
All to no avail - x3270 still does not pick them up. oh well. 

it turns out that just changing the screen resolution and picking model
3 
actually gives us a workable console. 

note: debian does have a separate package for the x3270 fonts, but it is

just the same fonts that are in the main package in a smaller package so
they 
can be installed on a font server. i installed them, but it didn't get
me the rest 
of the fonts. 

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL 

The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on
04/30/2008 04:40:32 AM:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  anyone using linux + x3270 for OSA ICC consoles?
  
  the latest xfonts-3270-misc does not include two of the larger
fonts:
  3270gt24  3270gt32 
  any suggestions on other fonts to use on X 
  or how to get these larger fonts?
 
 What Linux distribution are you using? They seem to split up the
 various parts of the x3270 suite in different ways (core, X part,
 text/script part, fonts...). For Fedora Core 6 and RHEL4, the fonts
 (including 3270gt4) are in the x3270-x11 rpm and for SLES10 they're
 in the x3270 rpm. Check and see if your distro has broken the fonts
 out differently into some other package.
 
 --Malcolm
 
 -- 
 Malcolm Beattie
 System z SWG/STG, Europe
 IBM UK
 



Re: x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-04-30 Thread phillip
mark,

yes, that is one of the other things i did.
no joy.

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 
04/30/2008 04:52:49 PM:

 Did you perform a XHOST FP REHASH command after you installed the fonts?
 
 Mark Jacobs
 


x3270 for OSA ICC

2008-04-29 Thread phillip
anyone using linux + x3270 for OSA ICC consoles?

the latest xfonts-3270-misc does not include two of the larger fonts:
3270gt24  3270gt32 
any suggestions on other fonts to use on X 
or how to get these larger fonts?

prg

Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL

OSA-ICC support

2006-07-11 Thread Edward M. Martin
Title: OSA-ICC support






Hello Everyone,

 I know that some of you were having problems with the OSA-ICC support.

There is new info apar II14150 that discusses maintenance levels and some 

recommend hardware settings.

 I have it attached in text form. OSAICC II14150.txt 

Ed Martin 

Aultman Health Foundation

330-588-4723

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

ext. 40441





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  APAR Identifier .. II14150  Last Changed  06/07/07
  OPEN SYSTEMS ADAPTER (OSA) INTEGRATED CONSOLE CONTROLLER (ICC)
  3270 CONSOLE SUPPORT
 
  Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... CLOSED  CAN
  Severity ... 4  Date Closed . 06/03/06
  Component .. INFOV2LIB  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . 001  Fixed Release 
  Component Name V2 LIB INFO ITE  Special Notice
  Current Target Date ..  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform 
 
  Status Detail: Not Available
 
  PE PTF List:
 
  PTF List:
 
 
  Parent APAR:
  Child APAR list:
 
 
  ERROR DESCRIPTION:
  OPEN SYSTEMS ADAPTER (OSA) Integrated Console Controller (ICC)
  3270 console support requires the following maintenance-
  .
  OA05738 for users at HBB7706 and above provides new function
  support with D/T2084 and D/T2086.
  .
  OA03689 is the corresponding HCD support for OSA 3270 consoles
  that was shipped via apar OA03689.
  .
  OA11513 provides new function apar which provides support for
  the attachement of the D/T3286 and D/T3287 to the OSC control
  unit.
  .
  The following documentation is useful in setting up OSA-ICC:
  OSA-Express Implementation Guide (SG24-5948-02)
  .
  In addition hardware recommends specifying RESPONSE = ON and
  change the card speed from AUTO NEGOTIATE to the network speed.
  Also READ_TIMEOUT= 180 should be set and the MIH for the
  consoles may be set to 4:30. Otherwise the 3270 OSA-ICC attached
  console may fail to activate on a power on reset (por) ipl even
  though it successfully activates on a warm start ipl.
 
 
  LOCAL FIX:
  For OSAICC, the code level is based on
  the version of the hydra hardware card
  of which there are two versions-
  HYDRA 1.75 and HYDRA 3.0
  The code level can be checked via the
  OSA Advanced Facilities, Channel Type
  OSC. As of July 1,2006 the current code
  level would be:
  HYDRA 1.75 -- 2.05
  HYDRA 3.0  -- 0.07
 
 
  PROBLEM SUMMARY:
 
 
  PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
 
 
  TEMPORARY FIX:
 
 
  COMMENTS:
 
 
 
  MODULES/MACROS:
 
 
  SRLS:
 
 
  RTN CODES:
 
 
  CIRCUMVENTION:
 
 
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