June 22 Webcast - Automating Operations on z/VM and Linux with IBM Solutions
Cross-posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, and LINUX390 for those who enjoy listening to no-charge webcasts in the comfort of their own office/home/beach chair. :-) http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/ The next IBM webcast is scheduled for Wed. June 22, 2011 at Noon eastern. Topic: Automating Operations on z/VM and Linux with IBM Solutions Speaker: Tracy Dean - Product Manager, IBM Management Software for z/VM Abstract: As the Linux on System z environment continues to grow, the need for software and solutions to manage this environment also grows. IBM continues to enhance a set of software solutions to assist customers with automated operations, system management, and storage management. This webcast will focus on automated operations, including live demos of how to: * Automatically take action based on messages on z/VM service machines, on Linux guest consoles, and in Linux syslog data * View and interact with live consoles for both monitoring and debugging purposes * Monitor and manage spool file usage * Send alerts to a central alerting system, such as IBM Netcool/OMNIbus * Send e-mails based on console messages, spool usage, etc. * Automatically archive logging data when a disk approaches full Registration link: Date: Wed - June 22, 2011 Time: 12:00 PM EDT / 11:00 AM CDT / 06:00 PM Boeblingen / 16:00:00 UTC. Registration Link: http://ibmstg.adobeconnect.com/zvmwithibmsolutions0622/event/registration.html Links to additional webcast and replays: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/ If you have questions, please direct them to Julie Liesenfelt at jul...@us.ibm.com. Regards, Pam C
April 20 Bay Area System z programmers for z/OS, z/VM and Linux on System z
Registration is open for this Wed. April 20 System z user group: Bay Area System z programmers for z/OS, z/VM and Linux on System z PDF: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/zsf0411.pdf To: Bay Area Systems Programmers for z/OS, z/VM and Linux on System z Are you interested in getting together quarterly or semi-annually with your System z colleagues? A Bay Area System z User Group can facilitate sharing of experiences and offer presentations on topics of interest to your community. The next meeting will be: Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Time: 9:00 AM - 1:30 PM (08:30 AM Coffee) Loc: IBM Office, 20th floor; 425 Market Street San Francisco Agenda: - z/VM Performance Topics (Bill Bitner) - Performance Monitoring Tips for z/OS (by Norman Hollander) - zEnterprise Universal Resource Manager - Hypervisor and System Monitor (by Tom Shepherd) Coffee and tea will be provided at 8:30 am Lunch will be provided Registration: Please send a note to kar...@us.ibm.com Please respond to kar...@us.ibm.com with one of the following: Yes, I want to attend the session on April 20 and I am interested in participating in a System z Bay Area User Group Yes, I want to participate in a System z Bay Area user group, but CANNOT attend the meeting on April 20th Direct questions about this group to Karen Reed, kar...@us.ibm.com You can find many more events-- user groups (regional and multi-day), webcasts, classes, workshopsguess where...on the event calendar. :-) http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/ Regards, Pam C
Re: z/VM and Linux
On 4/2/2011 5:41 AM, David Boyes wrote: IFLs are more a licensing trick than any real technology difference. -- db There *IS* one technological trick about IFLs ! They will have your system (VM or LPAR) go into a "System Check Stop State" is you ever attempt to issue a SERVC instruction with a X'00020001' code ! But otherwise - yes - it's a marketing ploy ! --Ivan
Re: z/VM and Linux
> Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload > is GP only. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). There's nothing in the code that cares what kind of processor it runs on. There are licensing issues with CMS workload (and running VSE and z/OS guests) in that it's really expensive to run Linux workload on CPs, but neither VM or Linux or OpenSolaris care about CP vs IFL. Note that it is almost impossible to license the remaining CMS-hosted products on IFLs (note the almost) due to licensing restrictions, so if you have any measurable CMS usage, you're likely to be stuck on CPs simply because you can't get any of the tools at a reasonable price (or in some cases, ANY price) on IFLs. IFLs are more a licensing trick than any real technology difference. -- db
Re: z/VM and Linux
If this was any more confusing it would have to be the IRS. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:28 EDT, Mark Wheeler > wrote: > > > Wouldn't you rather say: > > > > - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to > use GPs, > > count all GPs on the CEC > > - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to > use IFLs, > > count all IFLs on the CEC > > > > > > "If you have one or more" vs. "If you have a" .Hmmm Let us say > you have two pieces of candy in your pocket and I ask, "Do you have a > piece of candy in your pocket?" I think you'd be obliged to say "Yes." > > But I'm an easy-going kind of guy and I'll say it any way you want as long > as the numbers add up! And in the interests of creating confusion, I don't > mean "z/VM *mode* LPAR", but "an LPAR [one or more LPARs] running z/VM". > > Alan Altmark > > z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant > IBM System Lab Services and Training > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > office: 607.429.3323 > mobile; 607.321.7556 > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > IBM Endicott >
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:28 EDT, Mark Wheeler wrote: > Wouldn't you rather say: > > - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use GPs, > count all GPs on the CEC > - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use IFLs, > count all IFLs on the CEC > > "If you have one or more" vs. "If you have a" .Hmmm Let us say you have two pieces of candy in your pocket and I ask, "Do you have a piece of candy in your pocket?" I think you'd be obliged to say "Yes." But I'm an easy-going kind of guy and I'll say it any way you want as long as the numbers add up! And in the interests of creating confusion, I don't mean "z/VM *mode* LPAR", but "an LPAR [one or more LPARs] running z/VM". Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:16 EDT, Mike Walter wrote: > But that seems at odds with the deal we worked out with our local IBM > marketeers for two z196 EC's, each with 16 IFLs and 32TB of storage; and two > z/VM 6.1 licenses, and the all many IBM and ISV products we needed - with IBM > owing *us* money instead of having to pay them anything! Each month we receive > a large check by certified mail, and as we add IFLs and software the amount of > the check increases. > > The devil is in the details - so pay close attention to the date of this note. Sam P. called me to verify that I was ok with the deal and I told him that it was the right thing to do. He said, "Well, if you think so, ok." Alan "The Detail Devil" Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
I stand corrected :-) From: Mark Post To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 04:31 PM Subject:Re: z/VM and Linux Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System >>> On 4/1/2011 at 03:41 PM, Michael Forte wrote: > Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. That hasn't been true for years, unless you're talking about "traditional CMS-based" workloads. In which case you may not be able to license all the IBM software you want on the IFL without going through the special bid process. > The Linux > workload is IFL only (or should be). That has never been true, except for the "should be" part. Linux doesn't care, just your CFO. > No charge for IFL workload but there > would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, > memory, shared resources...)? Not sure what you're saying here. IFLs don't add to the z/OS MSU-based software charges. You still have to pay for any z/VM licenses and/or Linux subscriptions that you will be running on those IFLs. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
>>> On 4/1/2011 at 03:41 PM, Michael Forte wrote: > Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. That hasn't been true for years, unless you're talking about "traditional CMS-based" workloads. In which case you may not be able to license all the IBM software you want on the IFL without going through the special bid process. > The Linux > workload is IFL only (or should be). That has never been true, except for the "should be" part. Linux doesn't care, just your CFO. > No charge for IFL workload but there > would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, > memory, shared resources...)? Not sure what you're saying here. IFLs don't add to the z/OS MSU-based software charges. You still have to pay for any z/VM licenses and/or Linux subscriptions that you will be running on those IFLs. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
Alan, Wouldn't you rather say: - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use GPs, count all GPs on the CEC - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- "Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When?" Tom Peters, author of "The Little BIG Things" > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:55:12 -0400 > From: alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, "Hughes, Jim" > wrote: > > Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We > > already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. > > > > Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. > > The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, > but on the CPUs available to z/VM. > - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the > CEC. > - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on > the CEC. > - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same > Enterprise ID.) > - Add all the CPU numbers together. > > The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs > goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th > CPU you start to see the price go down.) > > Alan Altmark > > z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant > IBM System Lab Services and Training > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > office: 607.429.3323 > mobile; 607.321.7556 > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
>>> On 4/1/2011 at 04:04 PM, "Hughes, Jim" wrote: > So to be clear, I have a single CEC with two GP's and one IFL. I'm told > our z/VM license is for two CPU's. We are not using the IFL now. > > If we were to begin using the IFL, our CPU count increases to three and > our z/VM licensing cost would increase by one cpu. Is this correct? If you're going to be running z/VM on that IFL, and keep running in on the two GPs, then yes you are correct. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
Interesting. But that seems at odds with the deal we worked out with our local IBM marketeers for two z196 EC's, each with 16 IFLs and 32TB of storage; and two z/VM 6.1 licenses, and the all many IBM and ISV products we needed - with IBM owing *us* money instead of having to pay them anything! Each month we receive a large check by certified mail, and as we add IFLs and software the amount of the check increases. The devil is in the details - so pay close attention to the date of this note. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Alan Altmark" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 04/01/2011 02:55 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, "Hughes, Jim" wrote: > Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We > already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. > > Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM and Linux
So to be clear, I have a single CEC with two GP's and one IFL. I'm told our z/VM license is for two CPU's. We are not using the IFL now. If we were to begin using the IFL, our CPU count increases to three and our z/VM licensing cost would increase by one cpu. Is this correct? Thanks for the reply. Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, "Hughes, Jim" wrote: > Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We > already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. > > Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, "Hughes, Jim" wrote: > Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We > already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. > > Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). No charge for IFL workload but there would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, memory, shared resources...)? Michael J. Forte z/OS Storage ID (and on assignment with STG Lab Services and Training) Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA IBM Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 3039 E Cornwallis Road Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-2195 USA mjfo...@us.ibm.com 1+720-397-5945 1+845-702-7962 1+919-381-4739 "There are risks and costs to a program of action. But they are far less than the long-term risks and costs of comfortable inaction." - John F. Kennedy From: "Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)" To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 03:35 PM Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System z/VM is charged for all GP and IFL's on the box only if it is also running on the GP's and not just on the IFL's. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and Linux Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. <><><><><><><>
Re: z/VM and Linux
z/VM is charged for all GP and IFL's on the box only if it is also running on the GP's and not just on the IFL's. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and Linux Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
z/VM and Linux
Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
z/VM and Linux on System z Performance and Tuning Education - Update
Velocity Software recently scheduled Performance Days during April in NY, Washington DC, Mountain View, and Dallas. We just added another session in Seattle for the Friday after SHARE (March 19th). We thought this might be helpful to those already in town for SHARE. Like our other sessions, seating is limited to 16 attendees. For additional information, please use the following links or contact us at 877-964-8867. Performance Days: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Performance Workshop: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
z/VM and Linux on System z Performance & Tuning Education
Velocity Software has scheduled Performance Days during April in NY, Washington DC, Mountain View, and Dallas. We are also providing a 4 day Performance Workshop the week following SHARE (March 22) and waiving the fee on this program. (A savings of $995.) Seating is limited to 16 attendees for each session/location. For additional information, please use the following links or contact us at 877-964-8867. Performance Days: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Performance Workshop: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
Now a little understanding Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
David Dean,
It was an advertisement but the are a lot of advertisements for UPCOMING
classes and seminars that benefit ALL.
They come from IBM, User Groups, and 3rd Party Industry Approved Teachers
and down right GURU's
Sometimes if it was not for announcements on this list some great
opertunitys for learning would be missed.
thank you for your diligence in keeping this list honest.
Bill Munson
Brown Brothers Harriman
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President MVMUA
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My apologies, sincerely. It just seemed like another advertisement.
David Dean
Information Systems
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huh? I am a techie, and have been contributing to this list and to this
community for 25 years. I do not need a lecture or sarcasm directed
towards me
in this regard. I did not put pricing on my announcement.
Please search the archives to bear witness to my contributions over the
years, and my volunteer time to chair user groups, etc.
Self serving? You bet. Value to the community? I would like to think so.
I have always respected the boundaries of decorum on this and all lists
that I subscribe to.
David
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I have a trailer for sale, really good shape, $300 or best offer.
I apologize, could not help it. Please listen to the admin and keep this
a tech list.
Thank you.
David Dean
Information Systems
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I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop
November 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City.
For more information please contact me off list.
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Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
I'm behind you David .. given all the posts informing us of various SystemZ expos, SHARE conferences, et al -- your announcement was certainly right in line with that. Information about events is always welcome.. shrug off the uninitiated :-) Thanks for your post -- Scott Rohling On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:51 PM, David Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > huh? I am a techie, and have been contributing to this list and to this > community for 25 years. I do not need a lecture or sarcasm directed towards > me > in this regard. I did not put pricing on my announcement. > Please search the archives to bear witness to my contributions over the > years, and my volunteer time to chair user groups, etc. > Self serving? You bet. Value to the community? I would like to think so. > > I have always respected the boundaries of decorum on this and all lists > that I subscribe to. > > David > -- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dean, David (I/S) > *Sent:* Fri 9/19/2008 4:45 PM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [IBMVM] z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 > - 14 > > I have a trailer for sale, really good shape, $300 or best offer. > > > > I apologize, could not help it. Please listen to the admin and keep this a > tech list. > > > > Thank you. > > > > David Dean > > Information Systems > > *bcbstauthorized* > > > > > > > -- > > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *David Kreuter > *Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2008 1:49 PM > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 > > > > I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop November > 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City. > > > > For more information please contact me off list. > > > > David Kreuter > > Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee > E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm > >
Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Dean, David (I/S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My apologies, sincerely. It just seemed like another advertisement. Fortunately it was not my first coffee that I spilled reading your comment. :-)
Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
My apologies, sincerely. It just seemed like another advertisement. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 huh? I am a techie, and have been contributing to this list and to this community for 25 years. I do not need a lecture or sarcasm directed towards me in this regard. I did not put pricing on my announcement. Please search the archives to bear witness to my contributions over the years, and my volunteer time to chair user groups, etc. Self serving? You bet. Value to the community? I would like to think so. I have always respected the boundaries of decorum on this and all lists that I subscribe to. David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Fri 9/19/2008 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 I have a trailer for sale, really good shape, $300 or best offer. I apologize, could not help it. Please listen to the admin and keep this a tech list. Thank you. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop November 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City. For more information please contact me off list. David Kreuter Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
huh? I am a techie, and have been contributing to this list and to this community for 25 years. I do not need a lecture or sarcasm directed towards me in this regard. I did not put pricing on my announcement. Please search the archives to bear witness to my contributions over the years, and my volunteer time to chair user groups, etc. Self serving? You bet. Value to the community? I would like to think so. I have always respected the boundaries of decorum on this and all lists that I subscribe to. David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Fri 9/19/2008 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 I have a trailer for sale, really good shape, $300 or best offer. I apologize, could not help it. Please listen to the admin and keep this a tech list. Thank you. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop November 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City. For more information please contact me off list. David Kreuter Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
I have a trailer for sale, really good shape, $300 or best offer. I apologize, could not help it. Please listen to the admin and keep this a tech list. Thank you. David Dean Information Systems *bcbstauthorized* From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14 I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop November 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City. For more information please contact me off list. David Kreuter Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop Nov 12 - 14
I am running my 3 day z/VM and linux on System z Operator Workshop November 12 - 14, 2008 in New York City. For more information please contact me off list. David Kreuter
Draft redbook: z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: The Virtualization Cookbook for SLES 10 SP2
Hello list, I am pleased to announce a new draft IBM Redbook on the Web at: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg247493.html?Open A number of sections have been updated or changed from the current version that is on http://linuxvm.org/present : -The z/VM sections are updated from v5.2 to 5.4. -The Novell/Suse Linux sections are updated from SLES 10 vanilla to SLES 10 SP2. -The Linux system that is cloned is called "golden image" instead of "master image". -The controller and the golden image are installed onto two separate user IDs, not on the same user ID. -The clone.sh script is adapted to require a "from" (source) user ID, to copy the 100 and 101 minidisks, and the code is hopefully cleaner. -The file system layout recommends two 3390-3s (100 and 101) instead of just one (100) and implements logical volumes for more adaptable file systems. -A section was added on Cooperative Memory Management - CMM1. The release of this book also removes some sections to help expedite getting it out the door: -The DAZL application has been removed. -The Backup and Restore chapter has been removed. Thanks to all who helped make this possible, especially, Lydia Parziale, Roy Costa and Marian Gasparovic of IBM's ITSO and Mark Post of Novell. Also, Brad Hinson of Red Hat did most of the work updating a counterpart RHEL 5.2 book which is hopefully not far behind (we're currently running one more usability test on it). Enjoy. Feedback is welcome. "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061
Two more z/VM and Linux Presentations from SHARE110
Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, and Linux-390 What are likely the final two presentations from SHARE in Orlando are now available on the linuxvm.org web site. The first one is about IBM's "Big Green" project, part of which is consolidating about 3,900 older AIX systems onto 13-17 z10EC machines running Linux on z/VM. 9060Leslie Gordon IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative 9265Martlin Maddy TCO: Comparing System z and Distributed Environments; Building the Business Case http://linuxvm.org/Present/index.html#share110 Mark Post
Re: Draft Redpaper: "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: Implementing a Shared Root File System"
Michael MacIsaac wrote: Hello all "linux-390" and "ibmvm"ers, A draft Redpaper "Sharing and maintaining Linux under z/VM" is now up on http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/redp4322.html?Open Kewl. Off to take a look. -- Jack J. Woehr# "Hipsters believe that irony has http://www.well.com/~jax # more resonance than reason." http://www.softwoehr.com # - Robert Lanham
Draft Redpaper: "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z: Implementing a Shared Root File System"
Hello all "linux-390" and "ibmvm"ers, A draft Redpaper "Sharing and maintaining Linux under z/VM" is now up on http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/redp4322.html?Open Here is the abstract: "Large operating systems, such as z/OS®, have, for several decades, leveraged shared file structures. The benefits are reduced disk space, simplified maintenance and simplified systems management. This Redpaper describes how to create a Linux® solution with shared file systems on IBM® System z? hardware (the mainframe) running under z/VM®. It also describes a maintenance system where the same Linux image exists on a test, maintenance and gold virtual servers. This redpaper is based on z/VM 5.3 and SLES 10." The associated tar file of sample scripts and EXECs should be on ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/REDP4322 (It seems that directory has not yet been created, but should be soon.) Any feedback off-list (or on-list) would be appreciated. "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Mike, My take on the council meetings is a little different than yours. While the target audience may be senior executive management, the reality is that they welcome the technical folks just as enthusiastically. I have attended the council meeting in my area since its inception. I do download the presentations and circulate them around the shop to interested parties. My local Linux on System z folks have encouraged me to do so. My council meeting (Atlanta) is tomorrow and, unfortunately, Mr. Teles of Hoplon is not on our agenda. Not to worry, I have and will continue to download new presentations from any of the nine other councils as I notice them. :-) Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist - - Enterprise Technology Infrastructure- - Mainframe Services & Capacity Performance Mgmt - - Office: 404-575-2798Mobile: 610-246-2943 - - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news OK, I'll try to take good notes and post them here afterward if IBM has no problems with that at the meeting. No promises on whether that actually gets done (lots of other things happening in my life right now) nor how good the notes might be. However, the handouts are generally posted at: https://extranet.lotus.com/zlinuxcouncil But your IBM'er has to sign you up for that web site, and invite you to the Council meetings. The target audience for the "Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council" is senior management. If I understood correctly they were targeting CEOs and CIOs, but have been letting technical managers such as myself show up. The sessions don't get down to the bits and bytes levels (for that, go to SHARE), but stay at a higher level; again targeted to their desired audience. I'll ask if I can post the session handouts somewhere that everyone can access. IBM might be wise to do that anyway, so that sysprogs can print them off to hand to their own management - particularly for customer sites where the invitees cannot or will not attend. Often, "insurrections" start from the bottom anyway. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
OK, I'll try to take good notes and post them here afterward if IBM has no problems with that at the meeting. No promises on whether that actually gets done (lots of other things happening in my life right now) nor how good the notes might be. However, the handouts are generally posted at: https://extranet.lotus.com/zlinuxcouncil But your IBM'er has to sign you up for that web site, and invite you to the Council meetings. The target audience for the "Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council" is senior management. If I understood correctly they were targeting CEOs and CIOs, but have been letting technical managers such as myself show up. The sessions don't get down to the bits and bytes levels (for that, go to SHARE), but stay at a higher level; again targeted to their desired audience. I'll ask if I can post the session handouts somewhere that everyone can access. IBM might be wise to do that anyway, so that sysprogs can print them off to hand to their own management - particularly for customer sites where the invitees cannot or will not attend. Often, "insurrections" start from the bottom anyway. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/13/2007 07:41 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news It would be VERY interesting to read the notes from the Chicago session -- and forward them on to (skeptical) management! Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/12/2007 02:44 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: > Dave, > >> Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an > invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in > Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot > closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their > IBM rep. > > From the invitation: > "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker > is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project > announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 > distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System > z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value > Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for > your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio > Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of > the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a > diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, > and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell > with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. > > > > "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > 09/12/2007 12:49 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > > > > > Dave, > > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council > > > IBM Corporation > 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 > New York City > Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM > > Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z > Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order > to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z > Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of > Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a pr
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
It would be VERY interesting to read the notes from the Chicago session -- and forward them on to (skeptical) management! Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/12/2007 02:44 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: > Dave, > >> Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an > invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in > Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot > closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their > IBM rep. > > From the invitation: > "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker > is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project > announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 > distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System > z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value > Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for > your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio > Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of > the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a > diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, > and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell > with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. > > > > "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > 09/12/2007 12:49 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > > > > > Dave, > > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council > > > IBM Corporation > 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 > New York City > Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM > > Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z > Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order > to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z > Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of > Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell > Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss > z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z > architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major > announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its > own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, > technical, and financial > perspective. > > Agenda > > 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast > 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation > Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team > 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies > Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology > 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC > Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing > 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing > Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies > Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon > 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session > 12:30 pm Close and Departure > > RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. > > > Bill Munson > VM System Programmer > Office of Information Technology > State of New Jersey > (609) 984-4065 > > President MVMUA > http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua > > >
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their IBM rep. From the invitation: "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/12/2007 12:49 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", ( http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510 ) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement ...
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Yes, I have heard something similar, John. The story I heard, and this was about 3 or 4 years ago, is that IBM built a system that consisted of a common backplane and disk drives, that would accept different types of "servers on a card". If you wanted a zSeries box, you added zSeries on a card to this system, if you wanted an iSeries or xSeries box, you simply added those cards. The way cool part was that the different types of cards could be mixed and matched in one system, with the backplane doing the work so that the different cards could share the disk storage, and communication amongst themselves at very high speeds (sounds like Hipersockets between LPARs doesn't it?). You could have one system, presented in a very tightly integrated manner, that could support both zSeries and xSeries, say, workloads at the same time. I believe that this type of approach is somewhat similar to the one now being promoted by PSI, as well. McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell engine with the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM sharing DASD, via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared amongst the processors I haven't a clue DJ MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- DJ V/Soft
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Dave, > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their IBM rep. From the invitation: "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/12/2007 12:49 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: > (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to > read about this) > > Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using > IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways > "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", > ( http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510 ) > > (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) > > It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon > Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM > mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very > rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM > is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on > demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement > "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to > Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory > across multiple mainframes, the company can better support
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
> MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Hoplon has said that some of it is Globus based, other parts are MPICH. > I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my > boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card > that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate > pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on > the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). Sounds like he's thinking about the P390. It's no longer made, though, and only supported 9672 G5-class instruction sets (eg, no zArch mode). Wouldn't be that hard to do, though, given the smaller z9BC MCM. You'd probably have to do a double or triple-wide blade to accommodate the cooling requirements, though; the MCMs run a LOT hotter than your average Intel chip.
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IBM Security SWARM! SWARM! SWARM! Judson West Systems Programming Team TeradataR, a division of NCR Corporation -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
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> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) > > This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in > hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell > engine with > the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, > the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM > sharing DASD, > via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also > running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared > amongst the > processors I haven't a clue > > > DJ MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell engine with the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM sharing DASD, via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared amongst the processors I haven't a clue DJ Bill Munson wrote: Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one. -- DJ V/Soft
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one.
z/VM and Linux in the news....
(Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one. -- DJ V/Soft
