RE: [IceHorses] Trace clipping a weanling - and missed photo op.
I'm so glad Kola is ok, it's so scary to see a horse hurt, especially a baby! That's great that she is a brave girl and trusts her human mom! Cherie I was shaking like a leaf when I saw it - I'm still surprised it turned out to be so minor. Cary walked the pasture to see what had caused it. He found it. We have a few trees in that pasture, and trees will drop dead limbs all along. He found a stick near a tree with a bloody tip and blood beside it, and a blood trail leading from it. We suppose that she stepped on the end of the stick, and the other end popped up and gouged her leg - it's the right length for that. The second, lower puncture is probably where it bounced, since it's not as deep. We try our best to have the safest fence we can. We don't leave halters on the horses when they are unattended. We think about what obstacles we leave in the pasture - we never park the trailer in the pasture, and we'd never think of leaving any farm equipment in there. I'm ready to cut the little trees down, but Cary says he can be more careful, and prune them more often, and we'll both watch for long sticks. I like for the horses to be exposed to natural stuff, but I once heard of a similar incident with a stick...only the horse was gouged in the belly, damaging internal organs and he died. That was a local horse, so I know the story is true. Kola was LUCKY. To be so big and strong, horses are also extremely fragile in many ways. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Snow Ploughing
I went out to open gates for Kevin so he could plough out the riding ring. We intend to work with Dagur again tomorrow. Looks like Gusti has it figured out so he can do it alone next time. :) Man, I can't imagine having that much snow for extended periods. We've had snow on the ground as long as a week a few times in my life. It's not uncommon for us to have snow accumulation here that lasts for 2-3 days. ONCE, I can remember having a snow/ice storm that was so bad, followed by VERY cold weather that we had accumulation (about 18) that lasted over three weeks. This year, our one (so far - we could still get more...) snow, about 3-4 started melting the afternoon after it fell in the morning, but there were a few snow patches left for about 36 hours. Pray for Cary if he ever has to live with me with so much cold and snow/ice. I get cabin fever in our winters - I don't think I'd make it through your kind of weather. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
On 2/24/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw some strides of a fairly clean trot...and some of fox trot...but the freeze frame was shakey, so there might have been more clean trot. But it's close enough. I riding instructor couldn't fault that. Why would Gat mix it up? And why on other days would there be more fox trot than clean trot. And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the two? They're doing well. I think so too Wanda. Thanks! V
[IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
I'm considering buying another Sensation because my daughter uses mine all the time and I'm wondering about the longer seat option that I've read others comment about. I love my Sensation Dressage, but when I first start posting I find my thighs bump my pommel and annoy me--then after a while I don't notice it, so either I get used to it or I change my movement to accommodate it. My riding coach hasn't pointed out that my seat is wrong so I'm not sure what I'm doing. Anyways--would the longer seat change that for me? My Trail model pommel didn't get in my way but I prefer the Dressage model. What about the Hybrid--would the bigger pommel get in the way for posting? Thanks for any comments. Virginia
Re: [IceHorses] Snow Ploughing
Man, I can't imagine having that much snow for extended periods. But you see this isn't a normal winter. We normally have about 1/3 of this snow and trained Peppy quite nicely to pull a sleigh. This snow is just too much. Too deep to ride in the bushes (you fall off the deer trails), and it's too deep for our little old tractor to make a good trail for the sleigh for Gustiso we waitand wait. I really like snow and all the activities we do out in it, I'm just not used to this much snow. And actually right now, I have a case of cabin fever myself Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
Why would Gat mix it up? And why on other days would there be more fox trot than clean trot. And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the two? I don't knowprobably the same reason Dagur is mixing it up. Muscles learning to do new things... In Dagur's case it will take some time to 'set' a gait. They need to be in shape and supple or at least that's my idea. I'll probably learn more as we progress with Dagur. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
Anyways--would the longer seat change that for me? My Trail model pommel didn't get in my way but I prefer the Dressage model. What about the Hybrid--would the bigger pommel get in the way for posting? I need to get Falki out and put the Sensation Hybrid on him and go trot for a while. He has the easiest to get true-trot of my horses, whereas the others tend to be easy, non-suspended trots. (He also foxtrots and jogs.) My impression is, however, that I can do anything in the Hybrid that I can do with the dressage saddle. I'm heavier than you by 10-20 pounds I think. My dressage has the standard (small) seat and the Hybrid has the extended seat. To me, they sit about the same, except that the Hybrid has the bigger seat. Of course, I've never met a Sensation that I didn't like either. It's raining today so it won't happen today. Ideally, you should post as subtly as possibly, with your butt leaving the seat no longer than necessary, so we should be able to post in even a properly sized western saddle. FWIW, my tiny friend has ridden in all my Sensations, and she says she doesn't feel lost in the extended seat Hybrid. Honestly, I can't see that you lose anything with the Hybrid...but I haven't posted the trot THAT much in one either. If you wanted to show in a dressage show, I think the Hybrid wouldn't be allowed, where the dressage model would be. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Snow Ploughing
On 2/25/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot about this picture. Solon is showing off his cute nose. Do your horses seem to like the deeper snow? V
Re: [IceHorses] Snow Ploughing
Do your horses seem to like the deeper snow? V I dunno...I think they're getting sick of it too. Kevin has ploughed some paths around their feeding area for them, and they use them faithfully now. I notice they rarely go out foraging anymore...the snow is just too deep. Today, after we're done working with Dagur and Gusti, perhaps I'll leave the riding arena open for them so they can wrestle and play with some good footing. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
In Dagur's case it will take some time to 'set' a gait. They need to be in shape and supple or at least that's my idea. I'll probably learn more as we progress with Dagur. I suspect that's sort of a different case though, but I could be wrong. Dagur is still a baby, just learning to balance himself with a rider up. Up until now he's been able to do any gait he felt like, whenever he felt like it. Gat is mature though, and has had a rider for a while. I'd bet she's in decent shape - as good as most horses are in the winter anyway. While strength and balance are big issues, another big issue is the conformation and wiring of the individual...and from what Virginia has said, I'd bet she's a good bit pacier than Dagur. For what it's worth, Sina CAN trot, but she also has a good bit of pace in her nature/conformation. I wouldn't describe her as pacey though, since I see her trot/foxtrot at liberty a good bit, as well as do all the other gaits. She seems to find it very easy to foxtrot under saddle. So, I mostly encourage her to do her saddle rack (which at times borders on step pace) alternating with her foxtrot. Both are very comfortable to me, and we walk a lot and canter some too. I think we alternate which muscles she uses, and how she uses them enough to keep her back strong. Walk and canter are always good gaits for back health. One of our next gait projects is to hone her running walk. She has that too. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM
[IceHorses] rating the canter
I love jaspars canter, so easy going and pleasant, and since he is pacey I like to bump him into that easy canter when others start racking etc. But I dont like it when he gets going too fast and when I haul on his mouth it makes him aggravated. How do you get them to only go slow at a canter? a QH friend yesterday said to try turning him with one rein when he goes too fast so he will learn he has to work when he goes over a certain speed, or to try wiggling the reins. I tried that but he is so used to reins flopping I dont think he noticed :) And the one rein thing has been taught to him as an emergency brake so I am a little leery of whooping a one rein styop on him in anything less than an emergency because I dont want to extinguish that... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Side-pull and tail pull
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:45:47PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: no, i mean riding bitless and one-rein stops are different. I guess I'm confused. Wasn't it you who brought up that you'd want a bit if you had to do a one-rein stop? I just think you should be able to stop your horse, with or without a bit. sure, and in a perfect world he'd clean his own stall too, as it were (actually he hasn't got a stall, just a run-in :) and his tolt would always be clearly four-beat and we'd never trip on the trail, and he could jump 3' and sidepass at the tolt. i am just not sure that in *this* world either he or i are to that stage yet. meanwhile, i think it would be unreasonable to confine him (as i am the most advanced of his riders) to life in his turnout and the ring only, and a shame to waste the 3600 acres of state forest which are why i moved him to this barn in the first place, but which are sometimes full of unpredictable things. so far we haven't had enough snow this year to run into, say, a snowmobile; he handles bicycles fine, but it wouldn't surprise me if a snowmobile required more serious measures, and i'm uncertain if i'd be able to stop him w/o a bit in such cases. (i'm not that certain i'd be able to stop him with a bit, even, but i could try. we review the one-rein stop about once a month, starting at a walk and proceeding to the other gaits, in the ring; we do it at about the same frequency on the trail for practice.) --vicka
[IceHorses] MN - EHV 1 ALERT
MN Board Of Animal Health announced this week that a case of Equine Herpesvirus 1 encephalomyelopathy has been confirmed in Wright County. Here is a link to the MN Board of Animal Health http://www.bah.state.mn.us/diseases/ehv1/ehv1.html Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chic, the Barn Goddess
Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joys of owning a gaited horse...:) Actually, she's probably TRYING to trot like you want her to, but she's defaulting back to what's easier for her - that would be my guess. If the foxtrot is easier, is that because of her build or habit? And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the two? However, it looks like she isn't having too much trouble doing her little mixed broken trot/foxtrot/trot thing, No--Gat doesn't seem to be having any trouble. And Alex doesn't complain, except about the pace when it mixes in with the canter. and honestly, I doubt many people, besides us gait purists would ever notice, or care. The riding coach will often ask Alex to slow down the trot because Gat just trots on past everyone, so Alex will slow down her posting and Gat slows down for a bit then she gets faster and gets into this steady ground covering groove of hers like she's going somewhere even if it's just around the arena. Much more important to me is that they look like a happy pair, they are able to do their job and both look focused, but relaxed. I'd be proud to own both of them. :) I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch. V
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, my tiny friend has ridden in all my Sensations, and she says she doesn't feel lost in the extended seat Hybrid. Honestly, I can't see that you lose anything with the Hybrid What is the extended seat for? V
[IceHorses] PNH games
I've just started Level 1 about a month ago and haven't been able to put a lot of time into it because I have to work around the arena schedule which means Sat Sun evenings are usually free for me, other than that my games have been limited to Friendly while handling. Both horses are fine with the Friendly game with the Carrot Stick although they both seem to be holding still like they're waiting for something to happen. Gat is always like that with or without the CS and always has been since we've had her--I'm wondering if that's her nature to always be so cautious. I've gone through all 7 games with both Gat and Orri--not perfectly but we've done them. Gat is easier to work with and seems to understand everything although both horses seem to think I want to lunge them when I yo-yo them out, and Orri doesn't want to yo-yo back in. Gat will pick up all her feet from one side, no problem. Orri won't pick up any foot--it's like we're back to square one with that. Both are figuring out to lower their heads from my hand at their poll. All in all I can't complain -- it's slow coming along because I don't have a place to play with them but once the weather gets better I'm hoping to be able to use the outside arena if it's not boggy or else go in the pasture or side yard when the arena is used. I know a horse is a horse, but would the personality of the Icelandic respond differently to PNH? V
Re: [IceHorses] my new friends
On 2/25/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend Sylvia and I drove fifty miles to sign up for the new group but we dont have to attend the meetings, they call us on the PHONE and remind us of upcoming rides and send out a newsletter. How did the 'buncha dangerous psychos or drunks' contact you about upcoming rides? Sounds like you had a good time! V
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
On 2/25/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a horse on the ride yesterday. What a hunk! V
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
HaflingerXDarft? No way does that saddle fit. Poor thing. He's very cute. Raven
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
Here is a horse on the ride yesterday. I got all excited thinking it was icelandic. Guess what breed? I felt sorry for him in his saddle, thinking it surely doesnt fit but she only ponied him and didnt ride. Then at the end after she got off the other horse and rode him he acted terrible, so i think he does have a saddlefit issue maybe? He sure looks icelandic-y. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] my new friends
On 25/02/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did the 'buncha dangerous psychos or drunks' contact you about upcoming rides? Probably shot off a cannon or something...;) Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] what breed?
Hi Karen, Thanks what I was thinking , maybe a Haflinger cross? Saddle certainly perches on his back. Geee I wonder why he was uncooperative to ride?? Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com --
Re: [IceHorses] my new friends
On 2/25/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/02/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did the 'buncha dangerous psychos or drunks' contact you about upcoming rides? Probably shot off a cannon or something...;) Wanda HAHHAHA thats a good one! Actually the word would start word of mouth, or at one ride you would hear of the next one... sometimes a flyer at the feed store... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
Haflinger, or maybe draft cross? WINNER! He is half haflinger and half percheron. Just about a GUARANTEE for obesity I think... because hugeness combined with shhortness makes for fatness... i should know :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
On 2/25/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're bumping into the pommel, then the saddle is too small for you - just get a bigger seat. I thought they came in one size. Does the extended seat give a bigger seat? V
[IceHorses] Driving
Wanda! You have to try this: http://www.bowersfarm.com/index.shtml Quick! Before your snow is gone! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] another sensation saddle review
Hi Janice Here are pics and it APPEARS to be that there was uneven pressure. Not enough to cause soring. But are pressure marks the same in a treeless saddle? By pressure marks I mean dry spots. This is always a question I ask myself. Like lots of things I think that opposites can be true. It can be wet where there is pressure - like in the photo on the sides where the girth makes contact and the side of the saddle but it is dry in a large area under where you are sitting. There is also meant to be dry areas along the spine - where there should be no pressure - which is what it shows here I think. If the large dry area were indicating enough pressure to close off the sweat glands it would certainly not be very many pounds per square inch?? As opposed to when you have small dry areas that then turn into white marks because of a great deal of pressure in a small area. I have talked to people who do pack trips and they have told me they look for wet spots as indicating pressure because they have to tighten the packs down quite a bit. So maybe like lots of things, there is more than one right answer and it depends The horse will give you answer in the long run... also you can check his back for soreness by checking him before your ride and then after. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] Farnam Super 14?
Okay...I am in need to a product that will help Huginn completely SHED OUT this year. Yes. I do clip him, but I would love something that will also slick him out. While at the feed store last week, I check out Farnam Super 14 http://www.farnamhorse.com/100089.html Has anyone used this? Does it work? Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chic, the Barn Goddess
RE: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
Hi Susan If you're bumping into the pommel, then the saddle is too small for you - just get a bigger seat. While that might be true for most saddles it CAN actually be just the way you post in the Sensation if you are hitting the pommel. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] File - Editing, Responding to the List
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Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
I rode a Fjord last week in the Hybrid and had no problems posting, you're still in a correct posture. The extended seat is not that much bigger, and I like having a little extra room (you could get a bolster that fits under the seat to make the extended seat adjustable.) Cherie
Re: [IceHorses] another sensation saddle review
On 2/25/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Janice There is also meant to be dry areas along the spine - where there should be no pressure - which is what it shows here I think. If the large dry area were indicating enough pressure to close off the sweat glands it would certainly not be very many pounds per square inch?? As Someone on the gaited list said if it wasnt a really really sweaty ride it could appear that way, and it was a very cool cloudy day and other than the sweat marks you see and his girth area there was no sweat. so maybe it is ok. I checked him this morning for soreness, poking around and massaging his muscles around the spine and he seems ok. His boney spine and withers seem ok... so maybe it will work for him! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] You Tube Icelandic
--- kim morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled some old videos off my other computer this morning, Don't you just love You Tube! And my little digital camera my husband gave me for Christmas to take on the horses takes great videos! Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
Re: [IceHorses] Trace clipping a weanling - and missed photo op.
--- Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so glad Kola is ok, it's so scary to see a horse hurt, especially a baby! That's great that she is a brave girl and trusts her human mom! I'd only had Andi about 4 months, when I discovered blood on the inside of his leg from a puncture wound. I discovered it at night, so I called my mom from next door, got Andi out in the dark and proceded to hose his leg down - and he had never been introduced to the hose! He allowed me to do it and I hosed his leg down every day for two weeks to promote draining. I think this early bond of trust is one of the reasons why he trusts me so much to this day. Also, the only reason I noticed it in the dark was because he was trying so hard to get my attention. He was trying to tell me he had a boo boo and needed my help. Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
one tip off that he wasnt icelandic... when people would say is he icelandic like your horse? I would say he looks a lot like my horse but my horse is shorter and has long fuzzy hair which made me wonder...I guess haflingers and drafts have shorter winter coats than icelandics? He wasnt clipped, in fact her other horse, a mustang cross, had much longer body hair. And so does jaspar my twh. makes you sorta wonder... why would someone breed a horse that is gonna probably end up where no saddle will fit it. People shoud think of stuff like that when they breed! But maybe he was bred to pull logs in areas where short horses are needed or something! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Driving
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanda! You have to try this: http://www.bowersfarm.com/index.shtml Quick! Before your snow is gone! HAHa! The video is great! But I would be on my face! Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
Re: [IceHorses] another sensation saddle review
On 2/25/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After every ride, I massage my horse's back (and neck, chest and rump) with a little battery operated massager that looks like a bug. I watch carefully for any reaction, and so far the only reaction is that she loves the massager! Do you do the massaging only to check for saddle fit? V
Re: [IceHorses] what breed?
because hugeness combined with shortness makes for fatness... i should know :) hey! i resemble that remark!! HAHA! raven
RE: [IceHorses] Ask Janice: Turquoise for Lucy-Runa
you got a hula hoop!!! awesome!!! I cant wait to see entire herd hula hoop tricks! and the color is perfect! I've had hoola hoops in my obstacle area for at least a couple of years now. They are great for controlling the horse's feet, one by one. We roll them away from the horses, and ask the horses to chase them to build confidence in oddly moving things. And they are cool for friendly game or sacking out. The summer toy area of Walmart is just full of such gizmos - swim noodles, whatdayacallits - the little windmill-type whirligigs, beach balls... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] You Tube Icelandic
Here I am trying Dari out at home in Montana, bareback, riding with a rope halter with reins attached, there was really nothing better than summer in Montana! I think we are slowly creeping towards spring here in Kentucky... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhiX8YaQgak Cool video, Kim - looks like fun! Now, what gait did he come down to from the canter? It's hard to see on a dark horse, especially with You Tube resolution, but my guess was foxtrot? Does that seem likely to you? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
If the foxtrot is easier, is that because of her build or habit? It can be from either one, but I'm thinking her build is most of it. I do NOT claim to be able to do a conformation analysis with still pictures or video though! The riding coach will often ask Alex to slow down the trot because Gat just trots on past everyone, so Alex will slow down her posting and Gat slows down for a bit then she gets faster and gets into this steady ground covering groove of hers like she's going somewhere even if it's just around the arena. I guess that could be from a couple of things. I think it was Janice who recently pointed out that horses can rush when they are uncomfortable, physically or emotionally, maybe trying to keep their balance. Or it could be that if she were trained initially by the Icelandic way she was taught, speed, speed and more speed from the start, so it could be her default way of trying hard. Or, maybe it's even just her nature - I don't think that's the case very often, but I wouldn't rule it out. If they are basically happy and relaxed, I wouldn't worry too much - either it is what it is, or it will get better. Worrying too much might make it worse if tension is any part of the cause. I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch. Since they bring back so many good memories of my daughter, Thunder and me, I sort of think of them as my cyber-kids. I hope that's ok - maybe I'll get my own grandkids someday! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
That's what I was wondering, although I didn't hit the pommel in the Trail model. V The pommel IS lower on the trail model than on either the Dressage or Hybrid, so no doubt, you can get by with more oomph in your post with that model. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] my new friends
Ugh!! I'm green with envy! You're riding in SHORT SLEEVES!! We have about a foot of snow from over nite and it's cold! raven
Re: [IceHorses] Bitless Bridle
As far as Europeans being open to bitless in general Linda started taking sidepulls to Germany in the 70's when she took a Western trail mare to one of the first Equitana's and did a demo of bridleless riding which astonished people. Here's a page with some pictures (Icelandics, too) of a gal that practices Horses in Harmony (her version of PNH): http://www.horseinharmony.dk/kursister.htm Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worrying too much might make it worse if tension is any part of the cause. I don't think Alex worries about it. I just want to make sure I do the right thing for Gat. I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch. I sort of think of them as my cyber-kids. I hope that's ok Of course! V
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the extended seat for? Bigger butts! Well, then I probably need the extended seat. Is the whole saddle made bigger? V
Re: [IceHorses] Show Video/Dagur/Janice
I wonder why he walks that way, one foot in front of the other, yet paces so well... he is an awesome horse. Can you think of a reason he walks that way at a slow walk? It is a wonderful story of a dream come true for horse and owner tho! Rope walking is an built fault up in the shoulders elbows as I understand it my foal Myrkvi was (lost him in an accident is my stable 2 weeks ago) ropewalking and has i take my farrier out now and then to prevent any abnormaltie´s in hoof´s and leg angels in the foals I ask him if he could fix it and he said me -no this is built fault further up shoulders elwbow´s and can´t be fixed with farrier work. Regards Malin
[IceHorses] Ute's Inspiration Video
Here's Ute's inspiration video: http://www.horseinharmony.dk/300.wmv Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Malin / Barefoot / Legs
but if you ride many miles per week, or have terrain that is not good for barefoot, it is more kind to the horse to use shoes or boots (the Simple Boot is supposedly liked by many). yes,know a quest, how do you now the size I mean? here in Iceland of course you can´t buy it but I think my Husbands sisters horse would really need it ,Smidur has very bad hoofs so they can´t shoe him good and therefore they do not really ride it, not their kid´s either and it´s a young horse only 7 and and really nice riding horse (to fat!) some help Her would be good, He´s out 24/7 on different terrainn and it doesn´t matter (pinto white hoof´s) On the topic of legs, where would the score reflect the movement of the legs (i.e. rope walking, winging in, etc.)? 7,5 straightness of leg ,your run with your horse back and forth on a stright line.They don´t look at it under rider as I been aware of any of the time that I have been showing. Regards Malin
Re: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland
you are forgetting about Guneldas husband, the worlds tallest icelander. LOL it's my long lost ex!! No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. ;) Denise Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Sir Winston Churchill
[IceHorses] Rehab Horse Going Thru Natural Horsemanship
Ute also has a diary of a rehab horse going thru her program: http://www.horseinharmony.dk/projekt_phonix_dagbog.htm Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Ask Janice: Turquoise for Lucy-Runa
I've had hoola hoops in my obstacle area for at least a couple of years now. They are great for controlling the horse's feet, one by one. We roll them away from the horses, and ask the horses to chase them to build confidence in oddly moving things. Gusti loves playing soccer!! I was going to drag the ball out the other day and have a game with him, but I discovered that the ball must be frozen under the overturned water tank that's out in the riding arena... Are you sick of me whining yet? Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Show Video/Karen
Malin, you may think it funny, but I have a SERIOUS problem with a horse who is front legs are interfering being used as a breeding horse. That's enough right there. There's simply no way I would breed a horse with legs like that. Karen Thomas, NC yes of course it´s is a problem when it is a problem but as I recall Dagur have never had interfering problems and have never seen him have problem on competion´s. And it´s good that you stay at your curs with breeding it´s to many that are running after the next popular stallion. And also as we don´t have this strong rules for breeding in Iceland as in Sweden for an example where a stallion (swedish halfbood /TB) with serious fault in building would never be allowed in registered breeding. Regards Malin
Re: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland
No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. ;) [Brackets point INTO the quoted text.] Er... make that camos and football jerseys :) Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give. Sir Winston Churchill
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
What is the extended seat for? big booties! ha! baby got back! raven ;]
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
Is the whole saddle made bigger? Nope, just the seat. The length of the saddle remains 20 inches. I got a custom hybrid and had my seat made 1 inch longer because I had heard from this list that the seat in the dressage felt a bit smaller than the trail and I have a big butt! I just love the saddle. ann
Re: [IceHorses] Longer seat - Sensation
On 2/25/07, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, just the seat. The length of the saddle remains 20 inches. I got a custom hybrid and had my seat made 1 inch longer because I had heard from this list that the seat in the dressage felt a bit smaller than the trail Hmmm...guess then I'll be getting an extended seat.. V
Re: [IceHorses] another sensation saddle review
On 2/25/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I also do it as her reward for carrying my fat butt thru the desert! Like mutual grooming between horses, I think it strengthens our bond. Sounds like a good thing ... I should look for one. V
RE: [IceHorses] another sensation saddle review
So anyway. I think it did ok! Maybe the medi-cheval pad helped? I decided to try it and if he started walking funny (he walks to the side when in saddle pain) or refusing to move out (another way he shows pain) then I would get off immediately, but he never did that. I watch the wet/dry places with my saddles, but I've never really trusted them to fully tell the story. I don't see anything in those sweat marks that would worry me. Were his withers clear? And there was no soreness? Just go slowly, watching for signs of problems, because sometimes they can be ok for a couple of rides, before a problem starts. But, I'd say, so far, so good. That Medi-cheval pad is the one I bought from Ann Cassidy, the one she'd been using for Mr. T(ivar). She had Medi-Cheval inserts, plus some Dave Genadek shims in it. I think that pad, with that padding was great for Tivar, and maybe it will work for Jaspar - I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! You need to be sure that the owner of the Half-Haf-Draf learns about treeless saddles. How tall is he compared to Tiv? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Ask Janice: Turquoise for Lucy-Runa
On 2/25/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sick of me whining yet? No. Make a maze and horse that finds the right way gets the carrot..or, build snowmen obstacles.. V
RE: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland
I've also seen a lot of pics from Iceland, and I would say that they could be measuring them differently as they seem small compared to the size of the riders - either that or Icelanders are giants compared to us! Oh I think most of the woman around me are 170-175 cm and men aeound 180-190 most teenagers boys I work with in school is a lot taller than me 167 cm /Malin ps, Oh remembered that I meet Monty Robert when he was here ,He was Tiny!
Re: [IceHorses] Show Video/Dagur/Janice
Rope walking is an built fault up in the shoulders elbows as I understand it my foal Myrkvi was (lost him in an accident is my stable 2 weeks ago) ropewalking and has i take my farrier out now and then to prevent any abnormaltie´s in hoof´s and leg angels in the foals I ask him if he could fix it and he said me -no this is built fault further up shoulders elwbow´s and can´t be fixed with farrier work. Regards Malin I am sorry about your foal Myrkvi!! and it sounds like you really care about your horses to try and help them Malin! Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland(Karen
At 15:05 24.2.2007, you wrote: Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really small I can hardly sell it That doesn't make sense, unless you measure differently. I've seen lots of imports and lots of domestic's and I'd say that 13.1-13.2H is about average. The horses certainly don't get smaller the instant they hit USA air space. yes we can agree on that they don´t shrink,but then how do we measure different? Regards Malin www.kolugil.tk
[IceHorses] Re: Teaching your horse to lay down
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking thru Judy's website and I came across this GREAT way to teach a horse to lay down. That really is ideal, if we can catch them in the act! Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland(Karen
yes we can agree on that they don´t shrink,but then how do we measure different? I learned to measure at the highest point near whithers( not at the rear end) when the horses head is down. I put them on an even surface, give them some treats in a bowl and measure. What do others do? My 5 Icelandics are 12,12.2, 12.3 (still growing) and 13.05. MY friend Ferne has a measuring stick that has a level so it is accurate. Glefsa who is 12 hands even is small but the others do not seem so. Ann Bodega, CA
Re: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland(Karen
On 2/25/07, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned to measure at the highest point near whithers( not at the rear end) when the horses head is down. I put them on an even surface, give them some treats in a bowl and measure. What do others do? I have a redneck measuring stick... A metal tape and a 3' level. ;) Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
RE: [IceHorses] Height versus size of a horse/Iceland
LOL it's my long lost ex!! No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. :) Denise HA! So...were you married to Gunelda's husband? Do you remember our earlier discussions of Gunelda? :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] PNH games
On 25/02/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know a horse is a horse, but would the personality of the Icelandic respond differently to PNH? I think any training done on any horse has to be individualized for each horse. Just yesterday I received some advice regarding Dagur's progress that I know I won't follow, simply because it would set Dagur up for failure and he doesn't need that right now. However, I did tuck the advice away for the future, and maybe I'll use it someday. We are the only advocates the horses have. wanda
Re: [IceHorses] PNH games
It's Level 1 and a Level 2 clinics by a certified instructorif I wanted to see the Parelli's I'd have to travel cuz I don't think they'd ever come here. How about West Springfield, MA Apr. 14-15? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] PNH games
On 2/25/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Level 1 and a Level 2 clinics by a certified instructorif I wanted to see the Parelli's I'd have to travel cuz I don't think they'd ever come here. How about West Springfield, MA Apr. 14-15? I just saw the listing and I'd love to goit's a big hassle to get passports though. V
[IceHorses] Invitation to view Raven's album - 2007
I was bored this afternoon, stuck in the house. Tons of snow outside. :{
So, I put together a few photos from last year's riding season. If you're also
bored, take a peek. HA! Raven the Crew
http://picasaweb.google.com/IcePonyGoddess/2007
Re: [IceHorses] Invitation to view Raven's album - 2007
http://picasaweb.google.com/IcePonyGoddess/2007 Great, Raven! and thanks for putting it together for us! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] PNH games
On 2/25/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Passports?!?!? I thought you lived in New England somewhere? New Brunswick, Canada--next door to Maine. V
Re: [IceHorses] PNH games
New Brunswick, Canada--next door to Maine. Oh, OK. This site has some stuff around and about NB: http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/mlinbpei/Monctonparelliclinic.htm and a mention here: http://www.countrymagazines.com/ahp%20reports/NB%20Report.html Do any of the locals get together for Play Days? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
