[ilugd] Hello ilugd
Hi ilugd dont waste any more time with things that wont make you any money http://bitly.com/14XFKVx i dont want you to miss out such an amazing opportunity ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Hello everybody, It has been long since I left this list just due lack of time, I was not that very active a contributor to F/OSS then and may be shall never be much in the future as well; I'm 50+ and getting older day by day. Anyway, I still maintain a few FreeBSD ports (http://anu.homelinux.net/ports), PKGBUILDs for ArchLinux (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=bdheeman), debs for Debian (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Debian/) and Ubuntu (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Ubuntu/). I scraped together, FreeBSD-7.2 (just to fit the things on 1GB UBS stick) and 9VX and released it as Nano9 (http://werc.homelinux.net/hacks/nano9/) around a year ago. I mostly remain busy trading stocks, bullion, currencies, commodities and, or derivatives these days, hence actively work on personalized copy (not a fork) of Qtstaker (http://qtstalker.sourceforge.net/) only. Last but not the least, a big thanks to Ashish SHUKLA (http://ashish.is.lostca.se/) with 1Mw smile :) Thank you, Best wishes, -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Hey, that's a cool post. Of course, I don't necessarily agree that being 50+ limits you from doing anything much (OK, may avoid running the full marathon), but more power to your dabbling, and more power to your inspirations :) Regards, -- Raj On Thursday 13 Oct 2011, Balwinder S Dheeeman wrote: It has been long since I left this list just due lack of time, I was not that very active a contributor to F/OSS then and may be shall never be much in the future as well; I'm 50+ and getting older day by day. Anyway, I still maintain a few FreeBSD ports (http://anu.homelinux.net/ports), PKGBUILDs for ArchLinux (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=bdheeman), debs for Debian (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Debian/) and Ubuntu (http://anu.homelinux.net/pub/Ubuntu/). I scraped together, FreeBSD-7.2 (just to fit the things on 1GB UBS stick) and 9VX and released it as Nano9 (http://werc.homelinux.net/hacks/nano9/) around a year ago. I mostly remain busy trading stocks, bullion, currencies, commodities and, or derivatives these days, hence actively work on personalized copy (not a fork) of Qtstaker (http://qtstalker.sourceforge.net/) only. Last but not the least, a big thanks to Ashish SHUKLA (http://ashish.is.lostca.se/) with 1Mw smile :) -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] HELLO TO ALL LINUX USERS :)
HELLO i am disappointed with ubuntu 10.4 LTS its worse than 8.10 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, bradd pitt bradd@gmail.com wrote: HELLO i am disappointed with ubuntu 10.4 LTS its worse than 8.10 May you take some trouble to give list of reasons, behind your verdict? -- H.S.Rai ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Worse than 8.10 ? so you mean to say 8.10 was also bad. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, bradd pitt bradd@gmail.com wrote: HELLO i am disappointed with ubuntu 10.4 LTS its worse than 8.10 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards, Nishant Prakash Kashyap ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] HELLO TO ALL LINUX USERS :)
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, bradd pitt bradd@gmail.com wrote: HELLO i am disappointed with ubuntu 10.4 LTS its worse than 8.10 +1 , search for lucid problem in google and then karmic problem etc I prefer 9.10 which is the last stable release from Ubuntu folks -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Hello Everybody !!!!!!
Hello Folks, I am Using Edubuntu 7.10.I cannot configure the webcam(Model: Quantum,QHMPL group). i tried do do this: uname -a Linux indistylo-desktop 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 09:21:34 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (rev 80) 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:03.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Camera kernel Available 2.4.25 with Camera Manufacturer CD please Help me fight from this problem.. Thank you In Advance Regards Arun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arun singh writes: Hello Folks, I am Using Edubuntu 7.10.I cannot configure the webcam(Model: Quantum,QHMPL group). i tried do do this: uname -a Linux indistylo-desktop 2.6.22-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 09:21:34 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge (rev 01) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge 00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80) 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (rev 80) 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200] 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:03.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Camera kernel Available 2.4.25 with Camera Manufacturer CD please Help me fight from this problem.. You should try gspca. Thank you In Advance Regards Arun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3S6YACgkQHy+EEHYuXnQxMQCffeOJtAqO6LBrZifOsNRGbo1B KaMAn2aLTmlRQXtlAuSusKslgaNQkZ8f =DKYk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [sorry for the last post] Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल writes: arun singh writes: [snip] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam Above VendorID:ProductID is listed at http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html. [snip] You should try gspca. I'm not any Ubuntu GNU/Linux user, so I won't be of much help. But I think you need to install gspca[1] driver from their repositories. It is available in 'universe' section, so you need to enable Universe section of repositories in your apt-get configuration. Or, if you prefer latest, install from the sources on site. References: [1] - http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gspca-source Ashish - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkh3TXcACgkQHy+EEHYuXnRh/gCgtoa2RY7SFANueY6ygnpHouV5 A50AnR1LnP67aUgOE/9odc0e3HwrsA18 =PlfR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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if u want to play mp3 only..u may use xmms player http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=518 xmms does not come with an mp3 plugin anymore and getting hold of a decoder is hard, by my experience. beep-media-player is a nice substitute. http://sourceforge.net/projects/beepmp parijat i tried a lot of websites but this shows that fedora not supporting restricted formats. but with installing codec this problem will be solved. where to get this codec and how to install this? please help me. AmrithRaj. R ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello -- Xmms / Vlc Trouble.... Requesting ur kind help !!!
Hello Please Help me... (VLC and XMMS Installtion Problems) Error while installing VLC. --- I try to install vlc media player that is (vlc-core-0.8.6e-1.lvn8.i386.rpm) My Os is Fedora 8 (KDE). That is installed from a live cd downloaded myself from fedora official site. This is installed on my home pc, unfortunately i dont have an internet connection at home. - Sys Configuration: P3 128 mb ram. (when i installed fedora, the ram in my pc is more than 300 mb) 80 gb hdd chipset board. -- The following Error Message Show When I try to install. VLC. - Unable to retrive software information. This could be caused by not having a network connection available. Details: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: develepmont. Please verify its path and try again. - I need your help. Please do - -What should i do now? -Is that possible to install vlc? without having an Internet connection? -and i cant play vcd from fedora (kaffine) I installed WINE for fedora, and i installed vlc media player distributed for windows on my fedora. but with windows VLC, i cant play vcds. (mp3 files are playing) and i am not able to copy the vcd movie files to the HDD. But i dont like to play a windows based *thing* on my fedora (its not sounds good). because i just hate windows. but now i dont have an option either. I belive that i am highly efficient in windows os. I used ms windows for the past 12 years. and i like 2 stick with linux. googling didnt help me much better on this subject for me. many site shows yum install otions from Terminal. (but double clicking on the rpm file did the same!!!) - Another XMMS Problem - Problem when i installed xmms (xmms-mp3-1.2.10-16.fc7.i386.rpm) This message shows: Software installed sucessfully. The problem is: Where is the installed software? I didnt find that on the Start menu (KMenu) Please help me. (( Sry. for my bad ENGLISH )) Thank you AmrithRaj. R ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] hello
where to get amarok mp3 codec? I am new to linux from ms windows. I cant play mp3 files on fedora. i tried a lot of websites but this shows that fedora not supporting restricted formats. but with installing codec this problem will be solved. where to get this codec and how to install this? please help me. AmrithRaj. R ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Amrith Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where to get amarok mp3 codec? I am new to linux from ms windows. I cant play mp3 files on fedora. i tried a lot of websites but this shows that fedora not supporting restricted formats. but with installing codec this problem will be solved. where to get this codec and how to install this? please help me. AmrithRaj. R Hi Amrith, You can install xmms and xmms-mp3 plugin for listening mp3 music on fedora. http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=3search=xmms-mp3srodzaj=3 http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/xmms/ For playing mp3 with amarok http://www.stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_5_installation_notes.html#MPlayer Regards Ankush ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On 3/31/08, Amrith Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where to get amarok mp3 codec? I am new to linux from ms windows. I cant play mp3 files on fedora. if u want to play mp3 only..u may use xmms player http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=518 i tried a lot of websites but this shows that fedora not supporting restricted formats. but with installing codec this problem will be solved. where to get this codec and how to install this? please help me. AmrithRaj. R ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Dhiraj Linux user # 436247 http://del.icio.us/dhiraj.cs R.K.G.I.T. Ghaziabad ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: did it sound funny? Either you have photographic memory or that was funny. If it is the former one, then good for you. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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vivek khurana wrote: I learnt Hindi typing in similar fashion. In 10 minutes or less? Cool!!! Good for you too :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 4:06 pm, Abhay wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: did it sound funny? Either you have photographic memory or that was funny. If it is the former one, then good for you. i dont have a photographic memory - so am glad to have brought some laughter into your life -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi
Sorry, I keep deleting messages before replying to them, therby breaking the thread. ---Nishant Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As per my understaning, since the keymap is changed, the A key on the keyboard doesn't map to character A as it's mapped to O in Hindi, so the shortcut commands that are using English characters can not be used. And you are forced to use mouse or change keymap No, that is incorrect. You can have (a) an English key as accelerator, (b) a Hindi (or, other language) key as accelerator, or (c) both. As I was misremembering, I just checked this with the Oriya translation for gedit. Maybe, an example of a translation, as given below, would help. (For people not familiar with a PO file, the msgid line contains the English string to be translated, and the msgstr line the corresponding translation). Let us take the File menu item as an example: 1. English key: msgid _File msgstr #2347;#2366;#2312;#2354; (_F) 2. Hindi key: msgid _File msgstr #2347;#2366;#2312;#2354; (_#2347;) 3. Both: msgid _File msgstr #2347;#2366;#2312;#2354; (_F,_#2347;) Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] ... just relearn the keyboard? I am afraid, many of us have to relearn their native languages. :-P I setup Bengali as the preferred language, and couldnt understand half the menu options (I can read bangla, but am not very good in pure or shuddh bangla). Umm, the terminology to use for Indian languages is an endless argument. My counter-argument to the above would be (a) the interface is aimed at a target audience different than people like us. I cannot read Bengali well enough to judge, but the general goal of IndLinux translation teams is to use everyday language, not shuddha bhasha. In fact, the Ankur Bangla localization guide exhorts you to do just that, (b) I would submit that the large part of the familiarity with an interface is learnt, and not somehow automatically intuited. Thus, a beginner would get to learn whatever she starts out using, (c) input like yours could be valuable, if you would take the time to systematise it, and submit it back to the Bengali folk. I imagine that they do review their translations, and would like to have your input. Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On Tuesday 18 Oct 2005 12:29 pm, Abhay wrote: Solution? Print out the keymap then look for each letter first on the paper and then on keyboard solution - press each key in turn and see waht comes on the screen. took me ten minutes to learn tamil typing and even less to learn the other languages as the keys are more or less the same -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi
Gora Mohanty wrote: OS - Ubuntu Which version? Hoary Ubuntu 5.04 Most likely, you are using the GNOME keyboard switching applet, which uses xkb internally. Yes, I have an applet on the panel and use that to switch The problem is either due to a misconfigured keyboard as you surmise, or possibly an error in the Hindi keyboard map. I have (as suggested by Kenneth Gonsalves) tried pressing all the key and key combinations but all the characters are not there. The problem is compounded by the ctrl function keys resulting in characters rather than sofware control keys . Eg Ctrl A = select all results in ctrl a = ो instead of select all ctrl c = म instead of copy ctrl v = न instead paste ctrl z = ॆ ctrl y = ब etc, etc ू If you give me the above information, I can try to fix the problem. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: solution - press each key in turn and see waht comes on the screen. took me ten minutes to learn tamil typing and even less to learn the other languages as the keys are more or less the same Is that some kind of joke? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- Abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: solution - press each key in turn and see waht comes on the screen. took me ten minutes to learn tamil typing and even less to learn the other languages as the keys are more or less the same Is that some kind of joke? I dont think so. This is called imersive leraning. You learn by observing surrounding, learn by your mistakes and failure. I learnt Hindi typing in similar fashion. regards VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a solution in search of a problem. Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On Thursday 20 Oct 2005 12:00 am, Abhay wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: solution - press each key in turn and see waht comes on the screen. took me ten minutes to learn tamil typing and even less to learn the other languages as the keys are more or less the same Is that some kind of joke? did it sound funny? -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi
On Wednesday 19 Oct 2005 1:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: than sofware control keys . Eg Ctrl A = select all results in if you want to use the ctrl characters, you have to toggle back to the english keyboard. eg: tamil keyboard - type some tamil - english keyboard - ctrl-c and ctrl-v - then back to tamil etc etc -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
Sorry to break the thread. I accidentally deleted the message before I could reply to it. --- Abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To get rid of the pain caused by keymap, have a look at Shusha fonts. They are phonetic Fonts thus they will work with the common US keyboard layout. [...] Please don't go back, or suggest going back to such retorgrade solutions. This kind of non-standardized, do-your-own-thing in the name of expediency is exactly the reason why Indian language computing is in the sorry state that it is. Besides, Shusha is non-free, and ties one in to the particular font. While this kind of a solution might have had its time and place, currently any software should be firstly Unicode, secondly Unicode, and lastly Unicode. Even Windows now has Unicode support for Hindi, and several other Indian languages. At the very least, any such system should have converters to and from Unicode, but seeing that the site does not even mention Unicode, I for one am not holding my breath. (And, yes, I am aware that there are Shusha converters None of them work 100% accurately to the best of my knowledge.) Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Gora Mohanty wrote: Please don't go back, or suggest going back to such retorgrade solutions. This kind of non-standardized, do-your-own-thing in the name of expediency is exactly the reason why Indian language computing is in the sorry state that it is. Besides, Shusha is non-free, and ties one in to the particular font. I don't know what your views are about Hindi computing and I am no authority to speak about it either but imho Hindi in itself is like an orphan child who has no one to take care of. When I mention Shusha (I am no developer, nor any marketing person for the fonts/firm involved), I just want to make more and more people to move on to writing in Hindi without going through the pain of keymap. I myself started to do lots of my correspondence with government offices in Hindi after I found Shusha and the main reason was the ease of typing. When I first started to write in Hindi (around 2 years back), I also wanted to stick to unicode. I even went out to buy a Hindi Keyboard and the only manufacturer I found to be making them was TVS but none of their dealers had them readily available. On writing to them directly, I was told to pay in advance and wait for 15 days to get the same. Solution? Print out the keymap then look for each letter first on the paper and then on keyboard which took really long to get any kind of work done. If it takes 2 hours for you to write one letter in Hindi because you are conforming to unicode then every end-user will get frustrated and move on to the easier way of writing the letter in English. Let people move on to Hindi first...feed them the standards later. Trying to do both at the same time achieves nothing but frustration and repelling users away from Hindi. That is just my opinion. You are free to have your own. Regards, Abhay Kedia ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
On 10/18/05, Abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gora Mohanty wrote: Please don't go back, or suggest going back to such retorgrade solutions. This kind of non-standardized, do-your-own-thing in the name of expediency is exactly the reason why Indian language computing is in the sorry state that it is. Besides, Shusha is non-free, and ties one in to the particular font. I don't know what your views are about Hindi computing and I am no authority to speak about it either but imho Hindi in itself is like an orphan child who has no one to take care of. I am not so sure about that about hindi, but yes one doesn't do a lot of localized computing as one studies english as a language for computability. When I mention Shusha (I am no developer, nor any marketing person for the fonts/firm involved), I just want to make more and more people to move on to writing in Hindi without going through the pain of keymap. I myself started to do lots of my correspondence with government offices in Hindi after I found Shusha and the main reason was the ease of typing. I think using unicode for interlanguage communication allows for multiple languages supported and rendered in the same document. As for the keyboard interface. One can always get the easily learnable inscript which works pretty similarly for many other indian languages too and available by default in major linux desktop environments. One could use Scim and Itrans sequences as talked my raju in a earliar lug meet [ link here http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/download.cgi?action=fileDownloaddId=92] . One could also use Bolnagri phonetic layout which I talked about in my previous language. When I first started to write in Hindi (around 2 years back), I also wanted to stick to unicode. I even went out to buy a Hindi Keyboard and the only manufacturer I found to be making them was TVS but none of their dealers had them readily available. On writing to them directly, I was told to pay in advance and wait for 15 days to get the same. Solution? Print out the keymap then look for each letter first on the paper and then on keyboard which took really long to get any kind of work done. Why ever look for a hindi keyboard whe you can just remap the same on you english keyboard . I suppose one does most of the command and interface interaction in english for now. cheers Vivek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
On Tuesday, 18 Oct 2005 12:29 pm, Abhay wrote: When I mention Shusha (I am no developer, nor any marketing person for the fonts/firm involved), I just want to make more and more people to move on to writing in Hindi without going through the pain of keymap. I myself started to do lots of my correspondence with government offices in Hindi after I found Shusha and the main reason was the ease of typing. If it takes 2 hours for you to write one letter in Hindi because you are conforming to unicode then every end-user will get frustrated and move on to the easier way of writing the letter in English. Let people move on to Hindi first...feed them the standards later. Trying to do both at the same time achieves nothing but frustration and repelling users away from Hindi. That is just my opinion. You are free to have your own. May I ask what you did with the letters you typed using Shusha? - Was your aim only to get something visible in Hindi so that you can print it? - Or was it to write an electronic document that you could send to someone so that they can read/modify it in their own mail-client/word processor? In this case, did you have any influence over the software that the other person might need to read your letters? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: May I ask what you did with the letters you typed using Shusha? - Was your aim only to get something visible in Hindi so that you can print it? Yes that was/is exactly my motive while using Shusha i.e. to get printed documents. Regards, Abhay Kedia ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- Abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When I mention Shusha (I am no developer, nor any marketing person for the fonts/firm involved), I didn't think that you were, and I hope that I did not imply so. Please also note that I have absolutely no problem with people choosing to develop and market Shusha. It is just that I would not recommend it when Unicode solutions are just as easily available. This is the case at least on Linux. I am less familiar with Windows, but even there I understand that the Hindi Unicode support is adequate. I just want to make more and more people to move on to writing in Hindi without going through the pain of keymap. [...] Getting people to use Hindi is a laudable goal, but I do not understand why you find keymaps such a pain. To my mind, using a pseudo-phonetic keymap (where you have to type capital letters or double letters for some characters) is inefficient, for even a reasonable typist. As proof, I offer you the fact that no Indian language DTP people I have met use a phonetic keyboard. Anecdotal evidence is not worth much, but I learnt the Inscript layout within a week of using it regularly, to the point that I do not need to have a picture, or stickers on the keyboard. Furthermore, learning the one scheme pretty much works across all Sanskrit-based Indian languages. You obviously disagree on the phonetic layout, and to each his own. There are a variety of phonetic and other input maps available that work *with* Unicode. We are getting distracted from my main objection to Shusha, which is that your suggested method of using it, preserves the Shusha encoding in the saved documents. This is absolutely, totally, 100% wrong, as you will presumably find out when you try to move your files to a system using a different font, or try to share them with someone else. This question of the encoding of the saved files should be separated from what keyboard layout one uses to input Hindi, and this is where Unicode, with all its warts, is the only reasonable alternative at the moment. Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
On Tuesday, 18 Oct 2005 1:57 pm, Abhay wrote: Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: May I ask what you did with the letters you typed using Shusha? - Was your aim only to get something visible in Hindi so that you can print it? Yes that was/is exactly my motive while using Shusha i.e. to get printed documents. So there you go, you and Gora/Vivek have been talking about entirely different things. You wanted to use the computer as a type writer, while they are concerned about communicating with others electronically. In the latter case, using standards is very important, but in your case, it doesnt matter what method you take, and shusha might work for you. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- Abhay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what your views are about Hindi computing and I am no authority to speak about it either but imho Hindi in itself is like an orphan child who has no one to take care of. I oppose your views on calling Hindi an orphan child. It depends on us, how we treat and use it. If people are ashamed of using Hindi, then it's their problem, not of the language. Solution? Print out the keymap then look for each letter first on the paper and then on keyboard which took really long to get any kind of work done. Yup! I did the same and it didn't take me much time learning typing in Hindi. I was able to chat in Hindi within 2 days of printing the keymap out. English. Let people move on to Hindi first...feed them the standards later. Trying to do both at the same time achieves nothing but frustration and repelling users away from Hindi. There is always a proper way to do certain things. And if someone is determined to use Hindi on computer, he wil surely learn how to type in Unicode. Were we able to write Hindi alphabets in a day or two at Nursery School? Why didn't our teachers instructed us to stick pre-printed alphabet stickers in place first and writing in pencil later because it's tough to write? When Indic computing has evolved and Susha is a thing of the era bygone, why should we keep ourselves tied to a legacy which rides on the back of English keymap? That is just my opinion. You are free to have your own. :-) regards, Nishant -- Peace, Love and Compile the kernel. http://www.nishants.net __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
On 10/18/05, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 18 Oct 2005 1:57 pm, Abhay wrote: Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: May I ask what you did with the letters you typed using Shusha? - Was your aim only to get something visible in Hindi so that you can print it? Yes that was/is exactly my motive while using Shusha i.e. to get printed documents. So there you go, you and Gora/Vivek have been talking about entirely different things. You wanted to use the computer as a type writer, while they are concerned about communicating with others electronically. In the latter case, using standards is very important, but in your case, it doesnt matter what method you take, and shusha might work for you. - Sandip Actually not. The thread started as a requirement for a keyboard for entering hindi in linux. I have no problems about someone using susha or any non-standard font (for that case) , but for any new hindi user to use unicode makes more sense for it's ubiquity and support in platforms atleast for hindi. Why mix different(proprietary) solution and depend on ancient rendering schemes when one could use and move towards a some standardized solution is my question. cheers vivek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Nishant Sharma wrote: I oppose your views on calling Hindi an orphan child. It depends on us, how we treat and use it. If people are ashamed of using Hindi, then it's their problem, not of the language. The same is true for an orphan child. If no one wants to accept it, its the problem of people and not the child...or do you think its the other way around? I never said that its the problem with Hindi, I just said that it needs to be made more acceptable. No matter how bitter the truth, its simple that communicating in Hindi is usually looked down upon. Try and send your CV in Hindi for a job application. I am sure you will not be called even for an interview. BTW my one comment is taking the discussion way off-topic. Yup! I did the same and it didn't take me much time learning typing in Hindi. I was able to chat in Hindi within 2 days of printing the keymap out. Yes but at what speed and as Sandip very clearly mentioned in his earlier post that my requirements were different from yours. I needed to type documents for printing purposes and nothing more. Also I didn't know about Bolnagri till then thus I had very limited options. Either I could have spent hours learning the Hindi Keymap or adopt the easier approach of Shusha. I adopted the latter. There is always a proper way to do certain things. And if someone is determined to use Hindi on computer, he wil surely learn how to type in Unicode. Were we able to write Hindi alphabets in a day or two at Nursery School? Why didn't our teachers instructed us to stick pre-printed alphabet stickers in place first and writing in pencil later because it's tough to write? That is where the difference between kids and grown ups arise. Kids don't have any option but to follow their teachers and thus they take the harder route but if you give a harder approach to an adult and ask him/her to type in Hindi, most of them will avoid it. Regards, Abhay Kedia ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
quite a lot of shu sha about shusha I have been typing in hindi for about 6 years - first CDAC leap and then ileap - using english keyboards mapped to inscript hindi key layouts. It took about a week to keymap them to the brain. we could sent documents to people who had the same fonts on their system , or as pdf 's or send them the fonts as well, But CDAC leap / ileap was a pain in many different ways this leap / ileap had phonetic capabilities and they were quite sad to say the least. Then, we began using Kruti Dev font that worked on M$office . OOowriter etc , using a hindi typewriter keyboard - this again took a week to map to brain - the new keyboard layout *using* the same english keyboard there was the option of stickers but it was far easier to have a print of the keyboard lying around to refer to as and when required. Again everytime we sent documents electronically it was with the font and the keyboard layout. Now we are using Ubuntu, which has hindi and many other indian languages as default and we recently figured that the default hindi fonts use the inscript keyboard - so maybe again we will have to relearn the new keyboard but this time its hopefully going to be more stable, because everyone - will use the same underlying system - what keyboard (layout) they use isupto them - *as I have been educated recently on this list* but the beauty is now we can have the same hindi that appears at login , the same when we use an editor in hindi mode etc and even more beautiful is if you are unicode ready then बडा अच्छा राम ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] hello
On Tuesday, 18 Oct 2005 3:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we are using Ubuntu, which has hindi and many other indian languages as default and we recently figured that the default hindi fonts use the inscript keyboard - so maybe again we will have to relearn the new keyboard but this time its hopefully going to be more stable, because everyone - will use the same underlying system - what keyboard (layout) they use isupto them - *as I have been educated recently on this list* but the beauty is now we can have the same hindi that appears at login , the same when we use an editor in hindi mode etc ... just relearn the keyboard? I am afraid, many of us have to relearn their native languages. :-P I setup Bengali as the preferred language, and couldnt understand half the menu options (I can read bangla, but am not very good in pure or shuddh bangla). ;) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] *Hello* : keyboard problem with hindi
Hi Continuing with the discussion on indic languages on Linux. I have a new problem OS - Ubuntu Computer Armada - E 500 Laptop I was trying to use hindi to type a letter in OOo the problem is a. that the shift keys don't work b. the ctrl function keys through up hindi characters, instead of the function. Till yesterday I was writing only simple words and short sentances - so the problem did not come up The Keyboard chosen is a Generic 104 keys PC keyboard. Could this be the problem and should I choose anyother keyboard (from the list) or is the problem elsewhere thanks ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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कया आप यह पढ सकते हैं । मगर यह keymap बडा pain हैं । घन्यवाद राम To get rid of the pain caused by keymap, have a look at Shusha fonts. They are phonetic Fonts thus they will work with the common US keyboard layout. For example: If you type namaskar on your keyboard, you'll get the output in Hindi. Read more here: http://www.abhivyakti-hindi.org/abhi/hindi_shusha_fonts_dl_help.htm Keymap if only you need it: http://www.abhivyakti-hindi.org/abhi/shusha_keyboardplus_ss.jpg Shusha fonts are also available for Marathi, Gujarati, Gurumukhi and Bangla known as Shivaji, Vakil, Sandhu and Shymal respectively. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/9988/free-download.htm HTH Regards, Abhay Kedia ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
Abhay wrote: To get rid of the pain caused by keymap, have a look at Shusha fonts. They are phonetic Fonts thus they will work with the common US keyboard layout. Thanks, will pass on this keyboard concept to the various phoneticians around, I would like to stick to typing hindi directly. thanks ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi - but using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my hindi work done - nobody uses unicode to type hindi. You type hindi using some keyboard layout and some font. But what is stored is a unicode string which is what is needed. so your hindi typewriter keymap and ttf font are fine for the purpose as long as you use something like babel to convert the strings Ram, there is the this default gnome keyboard applet with devnagari support for it. and You can also use Bolnagri which is an input method too. links below cheers vivek http://indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/BolNagri http://www.indlinux.org/downloads/files/bolnagri_0.1_noarch.deb http://www.indlinux.org/downloads/files/bolnagri.tar.gz ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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विवेक ऐय्यर விவெக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer wrote: Ram, there is the this default gnome keyboard applet with devnagari support for it. and You can also use Bolnagri which is an input method too. links below cheers vivek Hi I got what everyone was saying - hindi was already installed on my system - in fact all the indian languages which came with ubuntu - hoary - so I have added the applet to the task bar and can switch between hindi and english as easy as a mouse key कया आप यह पढ सकते हैं । मगर यह keymap बडा pain हैं । घन्यवाद राम ps - where is the half akshar key in this keymap - Bhasha - which seems to have been made by Microcost ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps - where is the half akshar key in this keymap - Type the Akshar then press D, it will put a Halant to that Akshar and when you type further, automatically it puts it correctly :-) regards, Nishant -- Peace, Love and Compile the kernel. http://www.nishants.net __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] okay babel babe here we go but I would rather like to learn to use unicode fonts and stick to them so will have to get the indic people to help me on that Kenneth had you on the right track. With a properly set up Linux system, you can enter text from your English keyboard that is mapped to Hindi in one of several different ways. However, the stored text is automatically in Unicode, so that the file is portable to other Unicode supporting platforms. Don't know which version of Ubuntu you have, but if you are running a recent version of GNOME, you should be able to right-click on the panel, choose Add to Panel, and select the Keyboard Indicator applet. This will bring up a little white square on your panel, probably labelled us. Right-click on it, and choose Open Keyboard Preferences which brings up a dialog window. Select the Layouts tab, and you can add up to four different layouts from the list in the right- hand pane. After setting the preferences, you can cycle through the keyboard layouts for the active window by repeatedly clicking on the Keyboard Indicator applet. It also allows you to have separate layouts for each window. Of course, you will get meaningful results only if you have a Unicode Hindi font installed (should be available in Ubuntu), and if the application that you are typing in supports Unicode (try gedit). Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Hello
[Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju] Hello I got your email from the ILUGD list. I am currently not a subscriber to it but I wanted help. I translated Tux Paint to Hindi but Bill Kendrick, Tux Paint Developer wants the translations again for the new version of Tux Paint [coming soon]. I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard? -- Ankit Malik ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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Ankit Malik wrote: [Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju] I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard? Can you give more details How much text is it ? What font(s) ? What keyboard does the font require ?? If I get these details - may be able to help ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 3:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ankit Malik wrote: [Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju] I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard? Can you give more details How much text is it ? What font(s) ? What keyboard does the font require ?? font? keyboard? why do you need to know these? the unicode strings produced are independant of both font and keyboard -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
On 10/11/05, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 3:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ankit Malik wrote: [Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju] I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard? Can you give more details How much text is it ? What font(s) ? What keyboard does the font require ?? font? keyboard? why do you need to know these? the unicode strings produced are independant of both font and keyboard Okay, not everyone here know everything about translation stuff. Can anyone explain the general steps required... ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! -- regards, makuchaku --- http://makuchaku.info When you speak out with the courage of your convictions, people listen! -- Valmik Thapar, Wildlife Conservationist. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 3:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ankit Malik wrote: [Ankit isn't on the list, so please CC any replies to him -- Raju] I can't do it again partially due to lack of time and partially because I have forgotten how to type in Hindi! So do you know anyone who would like to take the initiative to help Bill Kendrick in this regard? Can you give more details How much text is it ? What font(s) ? What keyboard does the font require ?? font? keyboard? why do you need to know these? the unicode strings produced are independant of both font and keyboard I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi - but using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my hindi work done - so was asking from my perspective. the various people who are working on indic fonts say that they can map the font to any keyboard - but if there is a default that Ankit is using it would have helped me figure whether I could help ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 4:15 pm, Mayank Jain wrote: font? keyboard? why do you need to know these? the unicode strings produced are independant of both font and keyboard Okay, not everyone here know everything about translation stuff. Can anyone explain the general steps required... in translation you are given a .po file, basically a list of english words and phrases, each on one line with a blank space below for you to fill in the translation. Using an app like babel, you fill in the blanks with the hindi text. The encoding is usually something like utf-8. So what keyboard you use and what font you use are irrelevant. Whichever keyboard and font you use it will create the same unicode string. -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi - but using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my hindi work done - nobody uses unicode to type hindi. You type hindi using some keyboard layout and some font. But what is stored is a unicode string which is what is needed. so your hindi typewriter keymap and ttf font are fine for the purpose as long as you use something like babel to convert the strings -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run ubuntu and still don't know how to use unicode to type hindi - but using a ttf font , and a hindi typewriter keymap (board) i get my hindi work done - nobody uses unicode to type hindi. You type hindi using some keyboard layout and some font. But what is stored is a unicode string which is what is needed. so your hindi typewriter keymap and ttf font are fine for the purpose as long as you use something like babel to convert the strings okay babel babe here we go but I would rather like to learn to use unicode fonts and stick to them so will have to get the indic people to help me on that ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hello
On Tuesday 11 Oct 2005 5:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I would rather like to learn to use unicode fonts and stick to them when you type in english, do you type the ascii codes? -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Hello ishpreet gill Re: Mozilla not workin
Hello Ishpreet and all, i think u didnt get my problem. ok no probs. actually whenever i try to open mozilla web browser for browsing it doesnt open means its window doesnt come. i tried by command prompt by givin command mozilla but it is not workin also i give one command 'mozilla -ProfileWizard' but it is also not workin. now i want to reinstall the mozilla . so i m tryin to remove mozilla. so i m enterin in command promt as root and givin command 'rpm -e mozilla' it is givin error. so plz help me how to remove the mozilla. it gives error like when i try to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] root] # rpm -e mozilla error: Failed dependencies: libgkgfx.so is needed by (installed) mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2.1-26 libgtkembedmoz.so is needed by (installed) kdebindings-3.1-6 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-mail-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-psm-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 35:1.2.1 is needed by (installed) galeon-1.2.7-3 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-chat-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-devel-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-js-debugger-1.2.1-26 mozilla is needed by (installed) plugger-4.0-23 so plz guide me is there any error in givin the command. no i didnt do like upgradation. so plz help me puneet Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Hello ishpreet gill Re: Mozilla not workin
Puneet, First Command for you man rpm Read how to uninstall rpm packages incase of dependencies..you will find rpm -e --nodeps packagename.rpm Have Fun with Following Document, hopefully this would be what you require. Following are the steps for installing mozilla1.5 on linux7.2 step1:first of all we need the mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.5-sea.tar.gz. The tar file for mozliia 1.5. step 2:we untar this gz file using tar -zxvf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.5-sea.tar.gz step 3:we have a directory created as mozilla-installer.we go that director .There we have mozilla-instaler a binary file we run that as /mozilla-installer. step 4:we have a directory created in /usr/local/mozilla. we go in that mozila directory and give the command ./mozilla then we have the mozilla 1.5 browser. step 5: Installing the plugins we need two things for that first of all j2re-1_4_2_03-linux-i586-rpm.bin file for java run time environment.when we run this binary file we have the rpm with us .secondly we need libgcc-3.3.2-6.i386.rpm step 6: we install the rpm for java using rpm -ivh j2re1_4_2_03-linux-i586.rpm we also install the rpm for libgcc using rpm -ivh libgcc-3.3.2-6.i386.rpm step 7:Now we have to create a soft link from the plugin to the browser. for that we go to the directory /usr/local/mozilla/plugin.There we create a softlink to the javaplugin as ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so that is all we need to do . Launch Mozilla giving command /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla Have Fun!!! :) -Dhruv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of puneet loiya Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:59 AM To: linuxdelhi Subject: [ilugd] Hello ishpreet gill Re: Mozilla not workin Hello Ishpreet and all, i think u didnt get my problem. ok no probs. actually whenever i try to open mozilla web browser for browsing it doesnt open means its window doesnt come. i tried by command prompt by givin command mozilla but it is not workin also i give one command 'mozilla -ProfileWizard' but it is also not workin. now i want to reinstall the mozilla . so i m tryin to remove mozilla. so i m enterin in command promt as root and givin command 'rpm -e mozilla' it is givin error. so plz help me how to remove the mozilla. it gives error like when i try to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] root] # rpm -e mozilla error: Failed dependencies: libgkgfx.so is needed by (installed) mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2.1-26 libgtkembedmoz.so is needed by (installed) kdebindings-3.1-6 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-mail-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-psm-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 35:1.2.1 is needed by (installed) galeon-1.2.7-3 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-chat-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-devel-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2.1-26 mozilla = 1.2.1-26 is needed by (installed) mozilla-js-debugger-1.2.1-26 mozilla is needed by (installed) plugger-4.0-23 so plz guide me is there any error in givin the command. no i didnt do like upgradation. so plz help me puneet Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Hello world! PHP trainees.
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[ilugd] hello all....!
hi everybody, i am a newbie. i would like to know... does the group conducts any get together ocassionally. bcoz i have seen in ilughyd they do that. n it was real interesting meeting so many experienced n newbies at one place. last time when i was there they were planning to show an installation in ISRO abt replacing all their windows stuff with linux. ... etc. well let me abt it. kiran kumar P ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
