Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Dave wrote: Gosh, folks, is this what they mean by the Apple tax? No, the 'Apple Tax' is a sarcastic term used by Windows trolls to complain that Macs cost more than Dells, even though comparably equipped Dells usually cost just as much. (or morecost out what a Mac Pro costs in the equivalent Dell model...hint: you won't find it in the 'desktop' section; look in the 'workstation' section. ) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Apples are the best computers I have and will ever use. I have no need for anything else. As long as Apple stays on tack, i'm happy. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
My bad, on track, not tack. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: My bad, on track, not tack. Hmm, at first I thought it was a NEW theological argument: How many Apples can balance on the head of a tack? 8-P -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
cool I am getting an 867Mhz 15 Powerbook G4 next week... =) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, Please tell us more before we go out and buy one of them. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
well it was news to me.. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I have a direct link to the site that Apple has it's Mac OS X lion page. This OS is coming out in Summer 2011. www.apple.com/macosx/lion -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- The only things that government “makes” are criminals out of innocent people, and corpses out of living human beings. - If the First Amendment fails, use the Second one. - *We're all Arizonans now. Sara**h Palin* -- *earth turns to gold in the hands of the wise* - Rum -- (The Life Buffet: take what you want, leave what you don't.) --- The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. Thomas Jefferson - WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency (NSA) may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse, nor protection.. IF anyone other than the addressee of this e-mail is reading it, you are in violation of the 1st 4th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X But see, that switch was mostly painless for users. This reaps them mucho good will from many people (such as me). In fact, there were 3 enormous changes over the years: 1. 68xxx to PowerPC 2. OSArabic numeral to OSRoman numeral 3. PowerPC to Intel ALL of these were achieved with hardly a bump to non-tech users. Amazing! Compare and contrast this with non-tech Windows users who start out screwed and get screwed over again every time ANYTHING happens. For this I had boundless respect for Apple. And just before Enormous Change 3, I bought my iMac. EC3 did not really bump me. And I was thrown under the bus with such alacrity and finality that it made my head spin. :P But they still haven't squandered all my good will. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Malcom 'o Brian, you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines you know, I have 2. One is a 17 1.25Ghz that WAS a 1Ghz but had it's logic board replaced because of an unknown reason. My second iMac G4 is identical to yours except it is a 15 screen, and it's internal IDE Bus failed. It is running fine now with an external 300GB Firewire drive. Another iMac saved =) The previous owner of my iMac 800 said Whenever I think of that iMac, I think of problems. Now, this iMac is free or problems because of me! the only problem was the IDE failure. I gave someone $30 and a GeForce 256MB 6200 AGP card on craigslist, and they gave me this external drive. Nice and speedy iMac, only now it has over 3.5x it's original 80GB storage capacity. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Being a PPC user, 10.7 Lion has no bearing on my computing experience. At least not until I can afford an Intel Mac, which is years away. But the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be another of several incremental steps toward 64 bit that began with 10.4 Tiger? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR 10.10 Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
I am okay with PowerPC macs for now... mostly because leo is still supported. They are fast, don't get me wrong. Especially my iMac G5. I turned the energy saver option to Best for performance, and this machine roars louder than my G4 machines combined. I do need a new MBA, though. A good 15 Powerbook G4 should do, as long as it can run leopard. I hate those small screens on them smaller powerbooks and ibooks. I am one of those people who need large screened laptops. ___ iMac G4 1.25 17, iMac G4 800 15, iMac G5 1.8 20, iMac G3 600, iMac G3 350, iMac G3 350, iMac BB 233, G3 Gossamer, G4 sawtooth, G4 sawtooth #2, eMac 700, G4 cube 450, Powerbook 5300cs, Powerbook 540c, PM 6100, and some others i can't name... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac noise
Yay, I remembered to start a new thread for once! On 2010/10/27 17:02, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote in another thread: Especially my iMac G5. I turned the energy saver option to Best for performance, and this machine roars louder than my G4 machines combined. That is my biggest beef with the iMacs, more so than even the lack of upgrade-ability. Well excepting the G3 of course, they are nearly silent. :-) My iMac at four feet from where I sit makes far more noise than my Power Mac which is only two feet away and situated at ear level. Both run at 100% 24/7/365, but you'd think the iMac was doing the majority of the work if you went just by the sound level. I think the half sphere makes a chamber that resonates the sound, or maybe it's the air flow restrictions. I wonder if enlarging the air inlets and/or outlets would reduce the sound level a little bit? Does anyone on the list have knowledge in this area? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR 10.10 Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
At 4:46 PM -0600 10/27/2010, Tina K. wrote: the one thing about the upcoming release that I am curious about is will Apple finally commit to 64 bit through and through, or is this going to be another of several incremental steps toward 64 bit that began with 10.4 Tiger? IF Apple goes with a pure 64-bit kernel in Lion THEN they will have to: a) cut off more Macs at the lower end (those that cannot do a 64-bit boot). b) cut off a lot of 3rd party peripherals and cards that still haven't been updated to have 64-bit drivers. Doing (a) is pretty much what we've come to expect from Apple with each OS release. Doing (b) is, well, also par for the course. Apple has never given a rats a** for the 3rd party products they blow off with each OS release. Now, Apple could retain the 32-bit boot capability, and thus protect the end-user's investment in x86 Macs. But L'Jobs has never cared about anything like that in the past, so... Note please that some Macs have a 32-bit EFI. That does not preclude them from booting a 64-bit kernel OS, however. This is an artificial limitation put in place by Apple. Likewise, there are some MacBooks that *do* have 64-bit EFI and yet still cannot boot 64-bit Snow Leopard... I expect there's a tech note that lists which Macs are or are not permitted to do a 64-bit boot. Anyone have that link? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac noise
When I ran my iMac G5 ran at the automatic option, it felt like I was running a crawling 1.5Ghz G4. Now that I turned on the Best option, I don't care if it makes too much noise, as long as it isn't too loud, and to make sure it doesn't overheat. I don't want that capacitor problem with my Rev A iMac G5. With this option i set it to, It feels as if leopard has started to run as fast as snow leopard does. There should be an option for iMac G4 computers to change their clock speed, because i have one iMac G4 800 that has no internal HDD or DVD drive because the IDE bus FAILED. I boot off of a firewire drive, and it works fine. If i can overclock this to 1.1GHz, they say that the machine will produce too much heat that it might set on fire, and if i overclock it to 1Ghz it will be a little warm. I am planning on overclocking it to 1.15GHz, because without the HDD and DVD drive in there, I have room for a bunch of fans! Maybe even a small water-cooled system. If it works out, I might overclock it to 1.2Ghz, but that might produce so much heat that only a water-cooled system will work with it. I can overclock my 1.25Ghz iMac G4 to 1.67Ghz, but I need a giant fan (or 2) on the logic board, and i will need to take out the HDD and CD drive. I wonder how you overclock a flower pot... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac noise
On 2010/10/27 19:53, Mystic Prowler so eloquently wrote: I can overclock my 1.25Ghz iMac G4 to 1.67Ghz, but I need a giant fan (or 2) on the logic board, and i will need to take out the HDD and CD drive. How would you overclock it? Looking at Daystar's pages for their EOL'd 1.92 GHz upgrade I see no mentions at all of any changes to the cooling system, perhaps Apple designed it to be overly robust? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR, Kubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB, Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR, Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines Yup, I love mine! Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. Instead, I use my PC desktop, PC notebook or iPod Touch. When my 80GB drive was getting full, I replaced it with a 500GB that I installed myself. Had no idea what I'd find on the inside but figured, How hard could it be? Used Carbon Copy Cloner to move everything from the 80 to the 300 (using an Ultra USB/FW external enclosure) and there was not issue one. :) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Apparently it works well even on the faster G4s. www.YouTube.com/html5 -Elliott On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Yes, from info given here. Two results: 1) It's better. But it's a better sequence of still pictures. :( 2) You only get HTML5 *IF* the video doesn't have an ad on it and there are only a small number of those. So, effectively, it's not better enough to make it usable. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
