Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-12-03 Thread Melvyn Edith Halbert
Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Nov 29 08:37PM -0800  wrote:


Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:
  version of Tiger, so I know first hand how inconvenient it would be
  for me to run 10.4.11 on my iMac G5 at home.

Me thinks you have a problem specific to your setup. I have Tiger
10.4.11 running on a G4 QuickSilver. It has Classic installed and I
have a number of old programs on it and I have no problems with it
opening with the correct application. In fact I have some real old apps
that I haven't used in years, I hadn't used them since I was using a
system running OS 9. For some of the documents I didn't realize I still
had the app installed until I double clicked on the doc and it launched
the app under Classic.

And I have also used the Change All quite successfully.


Thanks for your response and your report that Tiger works properly 
with Classic on your computer.  I wish I knew how to make Classic on 
my iMac G5 work under Tiger as well as your G4 does.

Since writing my first message to this group, I tried the Change 
All command; I only succeeded in making all of my text files created 
by BBEdit Lite appear now as TextEdit files.  Several years ago I 
found that I could restore the Creator Application as the Opening 
Application by replacing the preference file 
com.apple.LaunchServices.plist with an older version of the same 
file.  That remedy worked again today.

Without my knowing why, the camera import problem has now 
disappeared.  I can now use Image Capture or iPhoto or Canon's 
CameraWindow -- they all work properly.  All I did was to install the 
version of Mac OS X 10.4.2 (the original system that came with the 
iMac G5) on a bootable external FireWire drive, and later booted up 
with that drive to test the installation.  I don't see how this could 
have affected the system on my computer's internal HD, but it 
apparently did.

So at the moment I seem to be back to where I was before I sent my 
original message.  I hope my system stays in good condition from now 
on.

Thanks to all who made suggestions.  I haven't had time, with all the 
system installations, research, and attempts at repair, to read the 
iMac list for the past three days, but I hope to catch up next week.

Melvyn Halbert

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-30 Thread Dan
At 11:44 PM -0500 11/29/2009, Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:
When I followed what you wrote, there were no messages added to 
either the Console log or the System log.

Then the camera is not being seen by the hardware.

Have you tried a different USB port?

Console offers a slew of other log files.  I looked at a few, but
couldn't make sense of them and don't have a clue as to which, if
any, might deal with import from a camera.

None except system and console log are apropos.

  Given the number of security vulnerabilities that have been fixed
over the years, 10.4.6 - 10.4.11, plus those in the layered products
(QuickTime, Safari, etc), plus the various security updates...
trouble-free is a sad excuse. This is the equivalent of driving
down a highway at 80mph with no seatbelt, high on scooby snacks, and
justifying it because you haven't crashed yet.

I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that I may have
picked up some malware that has caused this problem of not
recognizing the camera?  I am aware that a number of theoretical
vulnerabilities have been discovered and fixed by Apple since 10.4.6,
but not that any exploits of these vulnerablities have actually been
found in the wild.

I'm saying that you're unnecessarily leaving yourself vulnerable. 
Case in point: the malformed dmg problem.  Not a virus or intentional 
malware usually (other than some idiots forwarding the bad dmg files 
to their friends for the heck of it).  Just malformed dmg files that 
will panic an unpatched Mac when you try to open them.

You're also avoiding all the other bug fixes and features that the 
developers put their efforts into providing.  eg:  Improved jpg color 
table handling and faster decode algorithms in the newer vers of 
QuickTime.

Also, my impression is that if such exploits exist, they would 
require that the user cooperate by opening and installing some 
disguised malware.

That's true of trojans but not other types of malware.

and have installed all of Apple's Security Updates for Tiger on a PPC.

If you're running that old a rev of OS X then you have not installed 
all the security updates.

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-30 Thread Kasey Smith

On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:

 [Please, no comments about the perils of using an old version of Mac
 OS X -- for almost three years, camera imports have been trouble-free
 under this OS.]

Tiger ftw! You might want to update it to 10.4.11 though...

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-29 Thread Gerald Uhlan
 At 11:20 AM -0500 11/28/2009, Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:
 Recently I have been unable to import photos from my digital camera
 (Canon PowerShot S80) to my iMac G5 running 10.4.6.  Formerly, the
 process was automatic: When I connected the camera via its USB cable,
 Canon's CameraWindow program would open and the camera screen would
 soon show that it was ready to transfer the new (or all) photos
 stored on the camera's SD card.  Now I have to open CameraWindow
 manually from Applications, and after some delay it tells me No
 camera was found.

Have you tried simply reinstalling CameraWindow?  You mention trashing the
prefs and other software added recently, but you don't say if you tried to
simply reinstall the software itself...


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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-29 Thread Melvyn Edith Halbert
http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/t/507c8814deed1d96In reply 
To Fabian Fang:

Yes, I have a USB card reader.  I don't use it regularly because the 
automatic upload with Canon's software is more convenient -- it sorts 
the photos into new folders pre-labeled by the date the pictures were 
taken, and places them in the right location for display and 
processing.  Also, the automatic import makes it unnecessary to 
remove the memory card from the camera and then replace it after the 
transfer.  Admittedly, these are minor conveniences, but to me they 
are worth some loss of battery power.

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-29 Thread Melvyn Edith Halbert
Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com Nov 28 11:29AM -0500 wrote:

I have no idea about your problem, but just out of curiosity, why 
are you running (Tiger) 10.4.6 and not Tiger 10.4.11? Just 
wondering...

Reply to Bill Chapman:

I use several programs under Classic which have no equivalent under 
OS X.  Mac OS X 10.4.7 (and all later versions of Tiger) won't 
automatically open files created under Classic in the application 
that created them.  Instead it opens them with some other 
application, not of my choice.

Worse yet, when OS X 10.4.7 (or later) is installed, without asking 
the user's permission it changes the Creator of _all_ such files (of 
which I have tens of thousands).  The original Creator code can be 
restored for one file at a time with the Finder's Get Info... 
command, but the Change All... option is broken in 10.4.7 and later; 
it isn't feasible to restore the Creator manually for tens of 
thousands of files.

I have found from experience that the latest version of Mac OS X that 
does not behave this way is OS X 10.4.6, so this is the version I 
continue to use.

My Mac at work is required by our IT department to run the last 
version of Tiger, so I know first hand how inconvenient it would be 
for me to run 10.4.11 on my iMac G5 at home.

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-29 Thread Clark Martin
Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:
 Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com Nov 28 11:29AM -0500 wrote:
 
 I have no idea about your problem, but just out of curiosity, why 
 are you running (Tiger) 10.4.6 and not Tiger 10.4.11? Just 
 wondering...
 
 Reply to Bill Chapman:
 
 I use several programs under Classic which have no equivalent under 
 OS X.  Mac OS X 10.4.7 (and all later versions of Tiger) won't 
 automatically open files created under Classic in the application 
 that created them.  Instead it opens them with some other 
 application, not of my choice.
 
 Worse yet, when OS X 10.4.7 (or later) is installed, without asking 
 the user's permission it changes the Creator of _all_ such files (of 
 which I have tens of thousands).  The original Creator code can be 
 restored for one file at a time with the Finder's Get Info... 
 command, but the Change All... option is broken in 10.4.7 and later; 
 it isn't feasible to restore the Creator manually for tens of 
 thousands of files.
 
 I have found from experience that the latest version of Mac OS X that 
 does not behave this way is OS X 10.4.6, so this is the version I 
 continue to use.
 
 My Mac at work is required by our IT department to run the last 
 version of Tiger, so I know first hand how inconvenient it would be 
 for me to run 10.4.11 on my iMac G5 at home.

Me thinks you have a problem specific to your setup.  I have Tiger 
10.4.11 running on a G4 QuickSilver.  It has Classic installed and I 
have a number of old programs on it and I have no problems with it 
opening with the correct application.  In fact I have some real old apps 
that I haven't used in years, I hadn't used them since I was using a 
system running OS 9.  For some of the documents I didn't realize I still 
had the app installed until I double clicked on the doc and it launched 
the app under Classic.

And I have also used the Change All quite successfully.



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Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-28 Thread Melvyn Edith Halbert

Recently I have been unable to import photos from my digital camera 
(Canon PowerShot S80) to my iMac G5 running 10.4.6.  Formerly, the 
process was automatic: When I connected the camera via its USB cable, 
Canon's CameraWindow program would open and the camera screen would 
soon show that it was ready to transfer the new (or all) photos 
stored on the camera's SD card.  Now I have to open CameraWindow 
manually from Applications, and after some delay it tells me No 
camera was found.

I called Canon's help line and tried a number of things suggested by 
a very knowledgeable representative (he was not afraid of Macs!). 
First he asked if I was using the genuine Canon USB cable with no 
intervening hub -- yes, I was.  Next I demonstrated that iPhoto also 
does not see the camera.  Then I tried to open Image Capture 
manually; its icon bounced in the Dock for a while but all it did was 
freeze the computer.

The rep then suggested I try another computer.  As soon as I 
connected the camera to my wife's iMac Core 2 Duo (running 10.5.8), 
iPhoto opened, offered to import photos from the camera, and did so 
successfully.  When I closed iPhoto and opened Image Capture 
manually, it also volunteered to import photos.

These tests convinced me and the Canon rep that nothing was wrong 
with the camera, but there was a problem with the iMac G5.  He could 
not help me further.

On my own I have tried the following: Removed recently-installed 
third-party software on this iMac (specifically Perian, Flip4Mac, 
DefaultFolder X); stopped Classic; closed every open application; 
relaunched the Finder; and trashed the CameraWindow preferences -- 
all without effect.  Then I disconnected all external devices (every 
USB cable except for the camera and the keyboard, all FireWire 
cables, and even the Ethernet cable) -- no effect.

Short of re-installing Mac OS X, I'm out of ideas.

Any suggestions?  Could my recent installation of Adobe's latest 
version of Flash Player be relevant?

[Please, no comments about the perils of using an old version of Mac 
OS X -- for almost three years, camera imports have been trouble-free 
under this OS.]

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-28 Thread Bill Chapman
I have no idea about your problem, but just out of curiosity, why are 
you running (Tiger) 10.4.6 and not Tiger 10.4.11? Just wondering...




Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:
 Recently I have been unable to import photos from my digital camera 
 (Canon PowerShot S80) to my iMac G5 running 10.4.6.  Formerly, the 
 process was automatic: When I connected the camera via its USB cable, 
 Canon's CameraWindow program would open and the camera screen would 
 soon show that it was ready to transfer the new (or all) photos 
 stored on the camera's SD card.  Now I have to open CameraWindow 
 manually from Applications, and after some delay it tells me No 
 camera was found.

 I called Canon's help line and tried a number of things suggested by 
 a very knowledgeable representative (he was not afraid of Macs!). 
 First he asked if I was using the genuine Canon USB cable with no 
 intervening hub -- yes, I was.  Next I demonstrated that iPhoto also 
 does not see the camera.  Then I tried to open Image Capture 
 manually; its icon bounced in the Dock for a while but all it did was 
 freeze the computer.

 The rep then suggested I try another computer.  As soon as I 
 connected the camera to my wife's iMac Core 2 Duo (running 10.5.8), 
 iPhoto opened, offered to import photos from the camera, and did so 
 successfully.  When I closed iPhoto and opened Image Capture 
 manually, it also volunteered to import photos.

 These tests convinced me and the Canon rep that nothing was wrong 
 with the camera, but there was a problem with the iMac G5.  He could 
 not help me further.

 On my own I have tried the following: Removed recently-installed 
 third-party software on this iMac (specifically Perian, Flip4Mac, 
 DefaultFolder X); stopped Classic; closed every open application; 
 relaunched the Finder; and trashed the CameraWindow preferences -- 
 all without effect.  Then I disconnected all external devices (every 
 USB cable except for the camera and the keyboard, all FireWire 
 cables, and even the Ethernet cable) -- no effect.

 Short of re-installing Mac OS X, I'm out of ideas.

 Any suggestions?  Could my recent installation of Adobe's latest 
 version of Flash Player be relevant?

 [Please, no comments about the perils of using an old version of Mac 
 OS X -- for almost three years, camera imports have been trouble-free 
 under this OS.]

   

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Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5

2009-11-28 Thread Fabian Fang
On Nov 28, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Melvyn  Edith Halbert wrote:

 Recently I have been unable to import photos from my digital camera
 (Canon PowerShot S80) to my iMac G5 running 10.4.6.  Formerly, the
 process was automatic: When I connected the camera via its USB cable,
 Canon's CameraWindow program would open and the camera screen would
 soon show that it was ready to transfer the new (or all) photos
 stored on the camera's SD card.  Now I have to open CameraWindow
 manually from Applications, and after some delay it tells me No
 camera was found.


Instead of direct uploading from the camera, have you tried to use a  
USB media reader, which costs a few dollars?  As the long-time owner  
of an iMac G5, and several digital cameras with different types of  
media cards, I have always uploaded photos through USB media readers,  
rather than draining batteries of the cameras.

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