Old G3 iMac: 256mb ram, 8gb hd, 233mhz processor. What to do with it.
Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3 iMac: 256mb ram, 8gb hd, 233mhz processor. What to do with it.
On Dec 26, 12:50 pm, Peter Haller peter.j.h.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Hi Peter, It could be the OS. That model can run OS 9.2.2 and 10.3 (Panther) pretty well as it is, as long as you don't expect it to break any Guinness Book records. I had one just like it which was mainly used as an iTunes and Internet radio jukebox in my bedroom with a USB wifi adapter. Hope it helps! HTH, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
That system is currently running Mac os 8.5 But it is capable of running Version 10.3: Panther YES, 'capable' of running Panther, but it's not easy for a newbie to do. You would first need to update the iMac's firmware or Panther won't install on it. OS-8.5 is a very old operating system. Panther is also fairly old - a 2003 system, as I recall. Then, its puny 6 GB hard-drive is marginal for OS-X, and changing out hard-drives on those old iMacs is a royal PITA. It will also need more ram, which is fairly easy to install through a door on its bottom. By the time you screw around with it you would have been better off buying a G4 with OS-X installed. I had one of those old iMacs and I threw it away several years ago – I didn't even bother trying to sell it to some unwary buyer -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Ok - For the record, here's a link to a color comparison list on Wikipedia. It's not entirely accurate, but you can see the difference between the colors, along with their names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMac_G3_flavors.jpg I also have photos of a Bondi and a Blueberry next to each other, but I'm having trouble finding them... -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Until someone shows up with an actual Blueberry model and puts it side-by-side, I'm calling this one Bondi... it's a light turquoise, and who the hell as ever seen turquoise (green/blue) blueberries anyway...THEY'RE PURPLE -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Ok - For the record, here's a link to a color comparison list on Wikipedia. It's not entirely accurate, but you can see the difference between the colors, along with their names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMac_G3_flavors.jpg I also have photos of a Bondi and a Blueberry next to each other, but I'm having trouble finding them... The machine spec would be the deciding factor, My Bondi looks way lighter than the photo. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Yeah, I saw that wiki page several months ago... the colours are way off on my displays. I also saw another page where the guy had the two side-by-side, and mine looked closer to Bondi... but you simply cannot judge an on-screen color with the actual machine. The specs tell the official story of course. My argument addresses the fact that Apple called a turquoise/green blue colour 'blueberry'... blueberries are not blue/green, they are PURPLE or maybe even closer to INDIGO, at least up here in Toronto. Btw, I also have the G3 BlueWhite and the blue/green iBook. But it's impossible to decide which colour is which Elliott Price wrote: Ok - For the record, here's a link to a color comparison list on Wikipedia. It's not entirely accurate, but you can see the difference between the colors, along with their names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMac_G3_flavors.jpg I also have photos of a Bondi and a Blueberry next to each other, but I'm having trouble finding them... -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Until someone shows up with an actual Blueberry model and puts it side-by-side, I'm calling this one Bondi... it's a light turquoise, and who the hell as ever seen turquoise (green/blue) blueberries anyway...THEY'RE PURPLE -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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The iBooks, and G3 BW tower were Blueberry. The only Mac to come in Bondi was the original G3 iMac; so basically, when you have an iMac that's blue-ish, if it: 1. Has a tray loading drive, and 2. Has an IR port with one of the speakers, it's Bondi. Otherwise, it's Blueberry. -Elliott On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Yeah, I saw that wiki page several months ago... the colours are way off on my displays. I also saw another page where the guy had the two side-by-side, and mine looked closer to Bondi... but you simply cannot judge an on-screen color with the actual machine. The specs tell the official story of course. My argument addresses the fact that Apple called a turquoise/green blue colour 'blueberry'... blueberries are not blue/green, they are PURPLE or maybe even closer to INDIGO, at least up here in Toronto. Btw, I also have the G3 BlueWhite and the blue/green iBook. But it's impossible to decide which colour is which -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Apr 22, 3:55 pm, callmemrprez callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: The iBooks, and G3 BW tower were Blueberry. The only Mac to come in Bondi was the original G3 iMac; so basically, when you have an iMac that's blue-ish, if it: 1. Has a tray loading drive, and 2. Has an IR port with one of the speakers, it's Bondi. Otherwise, it's Blueberry. I guess, but isn't Bondi supposed to be like blue-greenish? Mine is definitely purplish... F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I'm very familiar with OpenOffice, but it's not compatible with 10.1. I had no idea what version, exactly, of iMac I had b/c I bought it second hand from a guy who got it from his father in law and put it away in a box. I don't think it has a DVD drive, so there's a limit to the upgrades I can do. also, there's a financial limit to how much I can spend ($0). I was thinking of trying a dual boot, just to see if I could get some more modern functionality (openoffice) out of linux. This is basically a backup computer I got cheap and want to get the most out of. I know little about it, but I am having fun learning. On Apr 20, 4:34 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 4/19/10 8:38 AM, joshuallen wrote: I just acquired an old iMac G3 (Tangerine!) from a guy. He gave me the original install/restore disks + backups (OS 8.something), OS 9 full version, and an OS 10.1 upgrade version + backups of all. It booted up to a login screen when I first turned it on and so I tried an full install of 10.1, including reformatting the hard drive. It seemed to work. Later I read that it's preferable to partition the hard drive, for OSX, but I can't seem to get that to work. Also, I'd like to use the machine for writing. If possible, I'd like something with a few more features than TextEdit, such as page/word count, that would easily transfer over to a PC, but that might be wishful thinking. I'm new to Mac. If anyone can give me some advice on software and let me know if partitioning is a requirement (and how I'd do it), I would appreciate any help. Do they say why you should partition. Because for me the only reason I've found to partition is for multiple OSes (OS X, Linux,...). I put X and 9 and the same partition. Make sure you upgrade the OS to at LEAST 10.3 (Panther) if not 10.4 (Tiger). They are faster and more stable than previous versions and support more modern software. For a supercharged text editor look at TextWrangler. (seehttp://www.versiontracker.com). For word processing look at Open Office. It's a free software suite roughly comparable (and roughly compatible) with M$ Office or AppleWorks. I don't have a link for Open Office, it hasn't been officially released (last I heard) in English for Tiger (but Bulgarian is). I think it was Bruce Johnson who had a link for it but I couldn't find it just now. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. joshuallen wrote: It's a slot loader with a 20GB hard drive and 256 MB of RAM. I can't say if it's a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive. It's the model that has the door on the back to accept an airport card or to swap out the RAM, and 2 firewire ports. I suspect that the HD and RAM must have been upgrades. I figured out how to partition it using the full install disk of OS 9 the guy gave me, and then I reinstalled to OS X.1. I figured maybe it was necessary, maybe not, but either way, I'd have an extra partition if I wanted to do a dual boot or anything. I'm starting to get the hang of OSX now, and it runs pretty well on this machine. I wish I could upgrade to take advantage of the software out there, but I don't think it's in the cards, unless I see something pop up on craigslist. On Apr 20, 10:49 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 4/20/10 2:41 PM, Elliott Price wrote: With the first-generation G3 Macs, there were some drive addressing problems that prevented it to boot from OSX if it wasn't on the first 8Gb of the disk. This is my understanding of it, I may be wrong about why, but those models definitely have that restriction. I *think* it was only the G3 minitower, the G3 desktop, and maybe the Bondi iMac. If the HD is under 8Gb, then there's no problem. I believe it applies to all tray loader iMacs which includes the next generation after the Bondi. And that group DID include a tangerine model. I was thinking there wasn't a tangerine in the tray loader clan which made me skip the 8Gb issue. You're right, that is a potential issue. To the OP, does your new toy have a tray loader or slot loader optical drive. If you have a tray loader then you do need to partition the HD with a slightly less than 8Gb partition at the beginning of the HD to install OS X onto. If you have a slot loader then you don't need to partition the drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Anything goes these days, eh... I'm into writing ad-type stuff... I just coined that... you can use it haha Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Absolutely... I still have every Mac I've ever bought... all in plain view... since 1996 I have 12, including a Mac Classic which I got for $10 and never used it. It currently sits on a top shelf keeping an eye on me haha Jason Trunzo wrote: I pictured them set out on coffee tables or desks but not used at all just like the fake laptops and tv's that Ikea uses in their displays. And if you did mean that, I get it - cuz that stuff is too cool to box away you gotta leave it out for all the world to see even if you're not using it! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Even the boxes are too cool to throw away... I can't understand why people throw those out... I still have my long-dead AppleVision 1710 display in its original box (in a closet since I'm cramped here) Jason Trunzo wrote: I pictured them set out on coffee tables or desks but not used at all just like the fake laptops and tv's that Ikea uses in their displays. And if you did mean that, I get it - cuz that stuff is too cool to box away you gotta leave it out for all the world to see even if you're not using it! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Because they don't have the room to store them. I sure don't. Just like I don't have any place to store or display my old Macs. (I even had an original 68K Macintosh!) So, they all go to the thrift store. Only old one I've kept is my Snow G3, as it is still serviceable, but having a devil of a time finding a place to put it. Just upgraded to a G4 iLamp, and I'm thinking of using the G3 out in the shed as a glorified mp3 player. Still would have to find a place to put it in there, and hooked up to the stereo. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Even the boxes are too cool to throw away... I can't understand why people throw those out... I still have my long-dead AppleVision 1710 display in its original box (in a closet since I'm cramped here) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On Apr 21, 12:20 am, joshuallen joshuallen.wri...@gmail.com wrote: It's a slot loader with a 20GB hard drive and 256 MB of RAM. I can't say if it's a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive. It's the model that has the door on the back to accept an airport card or to swap out the RAM, and 2 firewire ports. You're in luck. Those can take up to 1GB of RAM, and run 10.4.11 without jumping through any hoops. I can't vouch for 10.1, but in OS 9 you can check Apple System Profiler and it'll tell you a lot of info about your computer, and of course looking underneath like Paul suggested is easy, although turning the darn thing around is a literal pain. And, once upgraded to OS 10.4.11, I suggest trying out NeoOffice instead of OpenOffice --it's a version of OpenOffice ported to OS X that doesn't require X11. Have fun! Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
On 4/20/10 9:20 PM, joshuallen wrote: It's a slot loader with a 20GB hard drive and 256 MB of RAM. I can't say if it's a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive. It's the model that has the door on the back to accept an airport card or to swap out the RAM, and 2 firewire ports. I suspect that the HD and RAM must have been upgrades. I figured out how to partition it using the full install disk of OS 9 the guy gave me, and then I reinstalled to OS X.1. I figured maybe it was necessary, maybe not, but either way, I'd have an extra partition if I wanted to do a dual boot or anything. I'm starting to get the hang of OSX now, and it runs pretty well on this machine. I wish I could upgrade to take advantage of the software out there, but I don't think it's in the cards, unless I see something pop up on craigslist. The door on the back would be for a VGA mirroring connection. The door on the bottom gives you access to install an Airport card or memory (as well as the SMC reset and PRAM battery). Keep looking around for a cheap copy of Mac OS. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
On 4/21/10 5:48 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. That info is confused. 4Gb HD implies a tray loader (unless someone downgraded the drive. But 350 MHz implies slot loader. Last year I got a tangerine clamshell. I always liked the look of that model. It was very different in a industry of sameness. You can always get a 8 port switch, cheap, so you can have all the computers on the net at once. I've got a 16 port gigabit switch, 24 port 10/100 switch, 16 port 10MBps hub and assorted other little ones hooking everything up. And three wireless APs for the laptops and such. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
If the WD 500Gb is a full size IDE HD, (and not a laptop drive, or SATA,) then yes. It's really easy to swap drives in the G4 towers. Just make sure the cable settings are correct (Master/Slave). -Elliott On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.comwrote: It has a slot, no tray... it might be 6GB drive now that I think of it... I haven't hooked it up in awhile I don't have nearly the room to hook up any more computers... besides, those old ones are way too slow as compared to my G4 Titanium PB (1.6GHz, the fastest G4 Apple ever made) and my G5 Dual 2.0GHz. In fact I've just shelved my G3 B/W tower/Panther... I'm swapping it out and replacing it with my (currently) dead G4 Quicksilver 800MHz/Tiger as soon as I get another HD. Btw, would I be able to install a Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB hd drive on the G4?... I'm no techie Thanks Clark Martin wrote: On 4/21/10 5:48 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. That info is confused. 4Gb HD implies a tray loader (unless someone downgraded the drive. But 350 MHz implies slot loader. Last year I got a tangerine clamshell. I always liked the look of that model. It was very different in a industry of sameness. You can always get a 8 port switch, cheap, so you can have all the computers on the net at once. I've got a 16 port gigabit switch, 24 port 10/100 switch, 16 port 10MBps hub and assorted other little ones hooking everything up. And three wireless APs for the laptops and such. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
On Apr 21, 2:48 pm, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: There were no Bondi slot loaders anyways; Only the very first G3 iMac (tray loader) was Bondi. If it's a slot-loader, it's Blueberry. Bondi was darker, and more green-blue. I have never been able to get those darned colors right. I have a blue- violet trayloader myself, and I can't determine if it is Bondi, Grape, or Blueberry. It has a Revision A logic board --it says so on the very logic board--, but apparently somebody upgraded it with a 333Mhz processor. It works, faithfully, but it has so far resisted all my attempts to install some flavor of Linux in it. Apparently it thinks that Panther and OS 9 are the best, and who am I to contradict it? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
It's a 400Mhz. According to what I could dig up, it can handle up to 1GB of RAM. If you're considering a dual boot, look at installing fink or macports to run linux programs instead. I eventually got a version of Debian to run on a G3 imac, but they usually boot to a black screen, and you have to mess around with some config files to see a working desktop. Yep, that's exactly what happened to me last night. I'll look into those options and see what I can get to run. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Thanks for the important info Elliott Just hooked up the G3 iMac. It has 128Mb RAM 350MHz I have a 5.86Gb Panther partition and a 500Mb Classic partition I still maintain that the Blueberry iMac should be purple, like actual blueberries This one is turquoise... my Clamshell G3 is way darker Elliott Price wrote: If the WD 500Gb is a full size IDE HD, (and not a laptop drive, or SATA,) then yes. It's really easy to swap drives in the G4 towers. Just make sure the cable settings are correct (Master/Slave). -Elliott On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com mailto:pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It has a slot, no tray... it might be 6GB drive now that I think of it... I haven't hooked it up in awhile I don't have nearly the room to hook up any more computers... besides, those old ones are way too slow as compared to my G4 Titanium PB (1.6GHz, the fastest G4 Apple ever made) and my G5 Dual 2.0GHz. In fact I've just shelved my G3 B/W tower/Panther... I'm swapping it out and replacing it with my (currently) dead G4 Quicksilver 800MHz/Tiger as soon as I get another HD. Btw, would I be able to install a Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB hd drive on the G4?... I'm no techie Thanks Clark Martin wrote: On 4/21/10 5:48 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. That info is confused. 4Gb HD implies a tray loader (unless someone downgraded the drive. But 350 MHz implies slot loader. Last year I got a tangerine clamshell. I always liked the look of that model. It was very different in a industry of sameness. You can always get a 8 port switch, cheap, so you can have all the computers on the net at once. I've got a 16 port gigabit switch, 24 port 10/100 switch, 16 port 10MBps hub and assorted other little ones hooking everything up. And three wireless APs for the laptops and such. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
On Apr 21, 9:50 am, joshuallen joshuallen.wri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to give it a try after work tonight, and give fink and abiword a try. I used Abiword for my PC for a while, but I remember preferring OpenOffice, but I'll take whatever works. NeoOffice requires paying, and I'm trying very hard to spend as close to nothing as I can. Actually, it doesn't. They're trying very hard to get funds, apparently, so hard it's a little off-putting, but if you scroll to the bottom of the page you'll see the free download. I don't blame them for wanting/needing some funds for their project, but they are getting a little too pushy. F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Until someone shows up with an actual Blueberry model and puts it side-by-side, I'm calling this one Bondi... it's a light turquoise, and who the hell as ever seen turquoise (green/blue) blueberries anyway...THEY'RE PURPLE Ashgrove wrote: I have never been able to get those darned colors right. I have a blue- violet trayloader myself, and I can't determine if it is Bondi, Grape, or Blueberry. It has a Revision A logic board --it says so on the very logic board--, but apparently somebody upgraded it with a 333Mhz processor. It works, faithfully, but it has so far resisted all my attempts to install some flavor of Linux in it. Apparently it thinks that Panther and OS 9 are the best, and who am I to contradict it? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
You know how to keep boxes? Fold 'em haha... or even just get out the box cutter and keep the front Yeah, my first Mac was the Quadra 610 68000/25Mhz/68Mb RAM... the so-called 'pizza box'. It's still here, under the tv, with my 7200 and 7600 Gerald Uhlan wrote: Because they don't have the room to store them. I sure don't. Just like I don't have any place to store or display my old Macs. (I even had an original 68K Macintosh!) So, they all go to the thrift store. Only old one I've kept is my Snow G3, as it is still serviceable, but having a devil of a time finding a place to put it. Just upgraded to a G4 iLamp, and I'm thinking of using the G3 out in the shed as a glorified mp3 player. Still would have to find a place to put it in there, and hooked up to the stereo. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Even the boxes are too cool to throw away... I can't understand why people throw those out... I still have my long-dead AppleVision 1710 display in its original box (in a closet since I'm cramped here) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
If it's already running OSX, there's no need to partition the HD. Only the very early G3 Macs had the issue where you had to install OSX within the first 8Gb of the drive. I don't think that that model had that restriction; and if you have an HD that's under 8Gb, there's nothing to worry about. It sounds like the best text editor would be Word X, part of Office X. (I think it was the '01? '03? version? It's the first Office version that ran under OSX.) I *believe* that will run under 10.1... Maybe someone else knows for sure? Word's more powerful then Textedit, and is 100% compatible with Word (even '07) on a PC. You could also try an older version of Appleworks, it has a text editor, and was universal, so it would run under both OS9 and OSX. You might consider upgrading to 10.2; 10.2 was really the first really stable version of OSX, and is more compatible if you want to run useful apps. You can check on the LEM swap, eBay, or Craigslist for old versions of Office, AppleWorks, or 10.2 -Elliott On Apr 19, 2010, at 8:38 AM, joshuallen wrote: I just acquired an old iMac G3 (Tangerine!) from a guy. He gave me the original install/restore disks + backups (OS 8.something), OS 9 full version, and an OS 10.1 upgrade version + backups of all. It booted up to a login screen when I first turned it on and so I tried an full install of 10.1, including reformatting the hard drive. It seemed to work. Later I read that it's preferable to partition the hard drive, for OSX, but I can't seem to get that to work. Also, I'd like to use the machine for writing. If possible, I'd like something with a few more features than TextEdit, such as page/word count, that would easily transfer over to a PC, but that might be wishful thinking. I'm new to Mac. If anyone can give me some advice on software and let me know if partitioning is a requirement (and how I'd do it), I would appreciate any help. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Joshua, I'm with Clark --you should either go up to at least 10.3, or stick to OS 9, which will work fine with whatever amount of memory you got in there. As for word processors, I have a soft spot for WordPerfect, which you can get online for free --I'll post the link if I can find it. Good luck with your new iMac! Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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On 4/20/10 2:41 PM, Elliott Price wrote: With the first-generation G3 Macs, there were some drive addressing problems that prevented it to boot from OSX if it wasn't on the first 8Gb of the disk. This is my understanding of it, I may be wrong about why, but those models definitely have that restriction. I *think* it was only the G3 minitower, the G3 desktop, and maybe the Bondi iMac. If the HD is under 8Gb, then there's no problem. I believe it applies to all tray loader iMacs which includes the next generation after the Bondi. And that group DID include a tangerine model. I was thinking there wasn't a tangerine in the tray loader clan which made me skip the 8Gb issue. You're right, that is a potential issue. To the OP, does your new toy have a tray loader or slot loader optical drive. If you have a tray loader then you do need to partition the HD with a slightly less than 8Gb partition at the beginning of the HD to install OS X onto. If you have a slot loader then you don't need to partition the drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
