[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2013 Professional plus

2015-01-06 Thread Marek Durila


Hi all,
I am having difficulties, maybe, because this version of JF isn't
supporting this office?
I am waiting for SMA, but there is some procedure in my company.
1. When I press ctrl. o. I don't have classic dialogue as in 2003, there
are some tabs maybe last opened or edited documents, only on last tab is
something as unsaved and there when I press space-bar I can select the
files.
2. When I press ctrl. c/v I am facing some dialogue how to copy/paste, I
must press esc. to close it.
3. When I will go to the some folder where are some xls/doc files, the
explorer is frozen and I must few minutes, when the window is possible move
between files.
4. When I press ctrl. f4 before I could close all files, now each file I
must close separately.
5. When I must enable some macros, I am not able move cursor to the edit
button as before.
6. When closing documents 2003 asked me if save yes/no, here is don't save
and as I was before pressing yes now it is confusing me.
Any help would be good.
JF on win 7 64  professional.


 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2013 Professional plus

2015-01-06 Thread Kevin Hourigan

Hello,
For number 2  pressing Control c  is copy and control v is paste.
For number 4press alt F  4  instead of control
For number 6 press tab to save


-Original Message- 
From: Marek Durila

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2013 Professional plus



Hi all,
I am having difficulties, maybe, because this version of JF isn't
supporting this office?
I am waiting for SMA, but there is some procedure in my company.
1. When I press ctrl. o. I don't have classic dialogue as in 2003, there
are some tabs maybe last opened or edited documents, only on last tab is
something as unsaved and there when I press space-bar I can select the
files.
2. When I press ctrl. c/v I am facing some dialogue how to copy/paste, I
must press esc. to close it.
3. When I will go to the some folder where are some xls/doc files, the
explorer is frozen and I must few minutes, when the window is possible move
between files.
4. When I press ctrl. f4 before I could close all files, now each file I
must close separately.
5. When I must enable some macros, I am not able move cursor to the edit
button as before.
6. When closing documents 2003 asked me if save yes/no, here is don't save
and as I was before pressing yes now it is confusing me.
Any help would be good.
JF on win 7 64  professional.



Kind Regards / Mit
freundlichen Grüßen /
Üdvözlettel / S
pozdravem:


Marek DURILA  (Embedded
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  Mobile:
  E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com




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Republic, s.r.o.
Registered address: Brno,
 Technicka 2995/21, Zip
code: 61600, Company ID:
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   Brno (Part C, Entry
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   IBM Global Services
  Delivery Center Czech
Republic, s.r.o.
 Sídlo: Brno, Technická
 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ:
26244535
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2013 Professional plus

2015-01-06 Thread Marek Durila

Hi
ě. I know, what is ctrl.c-v, but when I will press will show me some
dialogue, how I wnat if copz onlz text, text with format etc. the same when
I put ctrl.v.
č. I know alt.fč, but now I can§t close for example š documents together as
in prewious version, I must close first, second etc.
ž. When I hat before question for saving I hat to press N that I don§t
save, but now it isn§t working.


 
 Kind Regards / Mit  
 freundlichen Grüßen /   
 Üdvözlettel / S 
 pozdravem:  
 
 
 Marek DURILA  (Embedded 
 Nordic HC coordinator   image moved 
to file: 
   pic19819.gif) 
 
  Delivery Center  616 00, Brno  
  Central Europe   Technicka 21  
 Brno SITE Czech Republic
 
 (Embedded image moved to
file: pic46384.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 
   Mobile:   
   E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com   
 
 
 
 
IBM Global Services  
   Delivery Center Czech 
 Republic, s.r.o.
 Registered address: Brno,   
  Technicka 2995/21, Zip 
 code: 61600, Company ID:
 26244535
 Entered in the Commercial   
  Register maintained by 
   the Regional Court in 
Brno (Part C, Entry  
  39922) 
 
IBM Global Services  
   Delivery Center Czech 
 Republic, s.r.o.
  Sídlo: Brno, Technická 
  2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 
 26244535
Zapsaná v obchodním  
rejstříku, vedeném   
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Hello,
For number 2  pressing Control c  is copy and control v is paste.
For number 4press alt F  4  instead of control
For number 6 press tab to save


-Original Message-
From: Marek Durila
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2013 Professional plus



Hi all,
I am having difficulties, maybe, because this version of JF isn't
supporting this office?
I am waiting for SMA, but there is some procedure in my company.
1. When I press ctrl. o. I don't have classic dialogue as in 2003, there
are some tabs maybe last opened or edited documents, only on last tab is
something as unsaved and there when I press space-bar I can select the
files.
2. When I press ctrl. c/v I am facing some

[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

2014-11-21 Thread Miriam Vieni
Can you please tell me of Jaws 14 is compatible with Word 2003 and Outlook
2003? Does Jaws 14 have any problems reading certain kinds of emails as it
does with Outlook 2007? I'm thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14, but only if
it will work with those programs with which I'm comfortable. 

I would have to upgrade to Magic 12 and the last time I tried this, I found
Magic 12 very difficult because it was so different from magic 11.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

2014-11-21 Thread David Maynard
In a word Yes. I use Outlook and Office 2003 with all Jaws version
including the new version 16.

Hth

Dave

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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

Can you please tell me of Jaws 14 is compatible with Word 2003 and Outlook
2003? Does Jaws 14 have any problems reading certain kinds of emails as it
does with Outlook 2007? I'm thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14, but only if
it will work with those programs with which I'm comfortable. 

I would have to upgrade to Magic 12 and the last time I tried this, I found
Magic 12 very difficult because it was so different from magic 11.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

2014-11-21 Thread Miriam Vieni
Yes that does help. Than you.

Miriam 

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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

In a word Yes. I use Outlook and Office 2003 with all Jaws version
including the new version 16.

Hth

Dave

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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Office 2003

Can you please tell me of Jaws 14 is compatible with Word 2003 and Outlook
2003? Does Jaws 14 have any problems reading certain kinds of emails as it
does with Outlook 2007? I'm thinking about upgrading to Jaws 14, but only if
it will work with those programs with which I'm comfortable. 

I would have to upgrade to Magic 12 and the last time I tried this, I found
Magic 12 very difficult because it was so different from magic 11.

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 stops talking

2014-11-12 Thread Tammy Freitag
-- 
I am running Jaws 14 on a Windows 8.1 machine.  I can arrow down an
email, document or web page and jaws will just stop talking for a few
seconds.  What could cause this to happen?  If I leave it alone, it
will start back talking.  This is so frustrating!  Sure would like to
resolve this.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  thanks!

Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-25 Thread Mike Boyd


Hello,

I do use Office 365 on my Windows 8.1 machine and JAWS 15. I like it very 
well., different, but better than 2010 in many ways.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net


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From: Louise Johnson

Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Hi no I am not I use office 2013 which you buy once Louise

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Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 24, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Are you using MS Office 2013 365?

Gary Ray

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Behalf Of Louise Johnson
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Hi I use office 2013 and I have used it with JAWS 14 and JAWS 15 and find it
better with JAWS 15. First each time they fix JAWS it does make it better
with office 2013. I am a newer user of a computer so I use it with email and
word. Spell checker is better in email over word but you can use it in word.
Have you used 2010 or 2007 if so it has some of the same things but there is
more to 2013. If you are a person who likes to try new things I would say
try it but with the latest JAWS that is the best. I hope I have helped if
you have any questions ask and I will try to answer them.

Louise and Hawk

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 23, 2014 9:17 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

List:



I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.



Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 365.
One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.



I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.



Questions for those who have experiences or information:



1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?



2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?



3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?



Thanx so much!



Gary Ray

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-25 Thread Steve

Gary,

I don't have specific experiencce with Office 365.  I don't know if it is 
accurate to say Jaws 15 works best with Office 2013; I think the accurate 
thing to say is Jaws 15 is the version of Jaws that works best with Office 
2013.


I don't like the fact that I have to annually renew my subscription with 
Office 365.  Personally, unless there are features that you need in 2013 
that aren't available in Office 2007/2010, I wouldn't feel the urge to 
upgrade.


Also, and others who have more experience may chime in, but at one time, 
there were issues with the Office 365 because Jaws had interpreted it as an 
Internet Explorer process because of the cloud aspect of the program.  The 
regular Office 2013 edition did not have that component.


Steve
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To: JAWS Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365



List:



I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.



Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 
365.

One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.



I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.



Questions for those who have experiences or information:



1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?



2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?



3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?



Thanx so much!



Gary Ray

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-24 Thread Gary Ray
Are you using MS Office 2013 365?

Gary Ray

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Louise Johnson
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Hi I use office 2013 and I have used it with JAWS 14 and JAWS 15 and find it
better with JAWS 15. First each time they fix JAWS it does make it better
with office 2013. I am a newer user of a computer so I use it with email and
word. Spell checker is better in email over word but you can use it in word.
Have you used 2010 or 2007 if so it has some of the same things but there is
more to 2013. If you are a person who likes to try new things I would say
try it but with the latest JAWS that is the best. I hope I have helped if
you have any questions ask and I will try to answer them. 

Louise and Hawk 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 23, 2014 9:17 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

List:

 

I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.

 

Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 365.
One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.

 

I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.

 

Questions for those who have experiences or information:

 

1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?

 

2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?

 

3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?

 

Thanx so much!

 

Gary Ray

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-24 Thread Louise Johnson
Hi no I am not I use office 2013 which you buy once Louise 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 24, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Are you using MS Office 2013 365?

Gary Ray

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Louise Johnson
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

Hi I use office 2013 and I have used it with JAWS 14 and JAWS 15 and find it
better with JAWS 15. First each time they fix JAWS it does make it better
with office 2013. I am a newer user of a computer so I use it with email and
word. Spell checker is better in email over word but you can use it in word.
Have you used 2010 or 2007 if so it has some of the same things but there is
more to 2013. If you are a person who likes to try new things I would say
try it but with the latest JAWS that is the best. I hope I have helped if
you have any questions ask and I will try to answer them. 

Louise and Hawk 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 23, 2014 9:17 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

List:

 

I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.

 

Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 365.
One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.

 

I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.

 

Questions for those who have experiences or information:

 

1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?

 

2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?

 

3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?

 

Thanx so much!

 

Gary Ray

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-23 Thread Gary Ray
List:

 

I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.

 

Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 365.
One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.

 

I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.

 

Questions for those who have experiences or information:

 

1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?

 

2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?

 

3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?

 

Thanx so much!

 

Gary Ray

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 15 With MS Office 2013 365

2014-08-23 Thread Louise Johnson
Hi I use office 2013 and I have used it with JAWS 14 and JAWS 15 and find it
better with JAWS 15. First each time they fix JAWS it does make it better
with office 2013. I am a newer user of a computer so I use it with email and
word. Spell checker is better in email over word but you can use it in word.
Have you used 2010 or 2007 if so it has some of the same things but there is
more to 2013. If you are a person who likes to try new things I would say
try it but with the latest JAWS that is the best. I hope I have helped if
you have any questions ask and I will try to answer them. 

Louise and Hawk 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 23, 2014 9:17 AM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14  15 With MS Office 2013 365

List:

 

I am pondering upgrading to MS Office 2013.

 

Microsoft is pushing folks toward the subscription plan of Office 2013 365.
One of the ways they are doing this is to only sell single user/computer
versions of the old fashioned 2013 product.

 

I  have heard that JFW 15 is best with Office 2013.

 

Questions for those who have experiences or information:

 

1-Does the 365 version of Office 2013 work ok with JAWS 14?  15?

 

2Will JFW 14 work with Office 2013, either version?

 

3-I would appreciate hearing any experiences folks have had with 2013 on
components of Office 2013 that I use:  Word, Excel, and Outlook?

 

Thanx so much!

 

Gary Ray

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

2014-08-15 Thread Liuda
Thanks so much, Mike.  I was looking for this list and didn't know where to
find it.  Will check as you said and let's see how that goes.
Pleasant week end.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

Hi Liuda,

Press, Insert + V, for quick settings, arrow down to, Messages automatically
read, check this box, tab to, okay,  press enter.  HTH

Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail


You will have to go to the quick setting menu and tell it to read them, it
defaults to don't read them on every version.


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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:51 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

Hello.



Today, I installed JAWS 14.  I use Outlook 2010 and Win. 7.



When I enter on a message and expect it to read automatically, like it did
with V12, it does not.



Instead I hear, this message has two links and it stops right there.



What can I specifically do to get JAWS to read messages and forget about all
of those unnecessary details it reads about the message?



Thanks for your help.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

2014-08-14 Thread Rose Combs
You will have to go to the quick setting menu and tell it to read them, it
defaults to don't read them on every version.  


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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:51 PM
To: Jaws Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

Hello.

 

Today, I installed JAWS 14.  I use Outlook 2010 and Win. 7.

 

When I enter on a message and expect it to read automatically, like it did
with V12, it does not.

 

Instead I hear, this message has two links and it stops right there.

 

What can I specifically do to get JAWS to read messages and forget about all
of those unnecessary details it reads about the message?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

2014-08-14 Thread Mike B.
Hi Liuda,

Press, Insert + V, for quick settings, arrow down to, Messages automatically 
read, check this box, tab to, okay,  press enter.  HTH

Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail


You will have to go to the quick setting menu and tell it to read them, it
defaults to don't read them on every version.


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Behalf Of Liuda
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:51 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

Hello.



Today, I installed JAWS 14.  I use Outlook 2010 and Win. 7.



When I enter on a message and expect it to read automatically, like it did
with V12, it does not.



Instead I hear, this message has two links and it stops right there.



What can I specifically do to get JAWS to read messages and forget about all
of those unnecessary details it reads about the message?



Thanks for your help.



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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 reading e-mail

2014-08-13 Thread Liuda
Hello.

 

Today, I installed JAWS 14.  I use Outlook 2010 and Win. 7.

 

When I enter on a message and expect it to read automatically, like it did
with V12, it does not.

 

Instead I hear, this message has two links and it stops right there.

 

What can I specifically do to get JAWS to read messages and forget about all
of those unnecessary details it reads about the message?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and Windows 8.1

2014-08-04 Thread Shoshana Hathaway
I suspect this may have been discussed before, but at the time, I wasn't
considering Windows 8.1.  Now I am, and would like to know if there are
significant issues between it and JAWS.   If you are going to send me to the
archives, please tell me how to access them.

Thank you.
Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and Windows 8.1

2014-08-04 Thread Kimsan
I use jfw 14 and 15 on 8.1 and it works well.

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Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 10:10 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and Windows 8.1

I suspect this may have been discussed before, but at the time, I wasn't
considering Windows 8.1.  Now I am, and would like to know if there are
significant issues between it and JAWS.   If you are going to send me to the
archives, please tell me how to access them.

Thank you.
Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and Windows 8.1

2014-08-04 Thread Shoshana Hathaway
Thanks!  I guess it will be time to learn a new Windows.  Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and Windows 8.1

2014-08-04 Thread Sunshine
If you do alt down arrow while in the combo box then choose what you 
want then do alt up arrow to close the combo box this should work.

On 8/4/2014 12:09 PM, Shoshana Hathaway wrote:

I suspect this may have been discussed before, but at the time, I wasn't
considering Windows 8.1.  Now I am, and would like to know if there are
significant issues between it and JAWS.   If you are going to send me to the
archives, please tell me how to access them.

Thank you.
Shoshana


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 not reading when moving back in a doc or list

2014-01-01 Thread Annette Carr
Hi All,

 

I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 machine with Office 2010.  Yesterday I
updated my computer to I.E.10 which required me to update my operating
system along with all the various Microsoft updates that I did not know I
needed until I started this process.  I am finding that JAWS is not reading
in the following situations:

 

. When in Outlook I can use the down arrow to move down through the
items in the list of the Inbox and other folders, and JAWS reads just fine.
When I use the up arrow, JAWS will not read, nor does it appear to me that I
am even able to move up in the list.  

. When in an e-mail message I cannot use the up arrow to move back
in the message to review what I wrote.

. When on a web page I can use the down arrow and tab key to move
forward/down on the page, but I cannot move up/back using the up arrow or
Shift+Tab.

. In a Word doc I can again move down and hear JAWS read each line,
but again cannot move up.

 

While writing this message, I have found that I can use the right and left
arrows and Control with right and left arrows to move around, and
Control+home to get to the beginning of the message.

 

Does anyone have any ideas about what is wrong?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

2013-12-22 Thread Annette Carr
Thank you

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Behalf Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

Hi Annette,
I'm running the same system as you on IE 11 and no complaints here.
Jorge

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Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 3:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 OS.  I'm thinking that it is time to
update my I.E.  What is the highest version of I.E. that I can successfully
use with JAWS 14?  I'm thinking 10.  Can someone confirm that for me?  If
that is the case, where can I download that version instead of the most
current that Microsoft has available?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

2013-12-21 Thread Annette Carr
Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 OS.  I'm thinking that it is time to
update my I.E.  What is the highest version of I.E. that I can successfully
use with JAWS 14?  I'm thinking 10.  Can someone confirm that for me?  If
that is the case, where can I download that version instead of the most
current that Microsoft has available?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

2013-12-21 Thread Mike B.
Hi Annette,

You can update all the way to IE11 if you would like.  Check in your 
Important Updates in Windows Updates to see what IE updates you have 
available.  You can also go to:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/


Go to the heading: Internet And Related Applications
 look at numbers 14 thru 17 for the IE9  IE10 downloads that suit your OS.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
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From: Annette Carr
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.


Hello All,



I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 OS.  I'm thinking that it is time to
update my I.E.  What is the highest version of I.E. that I can successfully
use with JAWS 14?  I'm thinking 10.  Can someone confirm that for me?  If
that is the case, where can I download that version instead of the most
current that Microsoft has available?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

2013-12-21 Thread Annette Carr
Thanks Mike

Annette


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

Hi Annette,

You can update all the way to IE11 if you would like.  Check in your
Important Updates in Windows Updates to see what IE updates you have
available.  You can also go to:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/


Go to the heading: Internet And Related Applications  look at numbers 14
thru 17 for the IE9  IE10 downloads that suit your OS.
HTH
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Annette Carr
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.


Hello All,



I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 OS.  I'm thinking that it is time to
update my I.E.  What is the highest version of I.E. that I can successfully
use with JAWS 14?  I'm thinking 10.  Can someone confirm that for me?  If
that is the case, where can I download that version instead of the most
current that Microsoft has available?



Thanks,

Annette



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

2013-12-21 Thread Jorge Rivas
Hi Annette,
I'm running the same system as you on IE 11 and no complaints here.
Jorge

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 3:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 and I.E.

Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 14 on a Windows 7 OS.  I'm thinking that it is time to
update my I.E.  What is the highest version of I.E. that I can successfully
use with JAWS 14?  I'm thinking 10.  Can someone confirm that for me?  If
that is the case, where can I download that version instead of the most
current that Microsoft has available?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Google Hangouts

2013-10-26 Thread Waqas Chauhdry
Greetings 

Does anyone know if Google Hangouts is usable with Jaws 14? If yes, any tips
would be appreciated. 


Very Best Regards

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

2013-06-28 Thread JOHN HUFFMAN
Hello, List,

 

The subject line tells you what braille display and version of JAWS I'm
running.  Additionally I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7.

 

In older versions of JAWS, I had some ability to control the point at which
characters on the display began to slide leftward out of view as new
characters were added to the end of a line, and this also had an effect on
where words broke before the 40th cell on the display.  I believe this was
accomplish through an advanced setting called something like Panning Mode.

 

I found this feature valuable as I do a lot of editing in Notepad and
wouldn't care if words didn't break at all as I move the display window to
the right.  But so far I've not been able to locate an equivalent feature In
JAWS 14 menus.

 

Can someone tell me where to locate the Panning Mode or an equivalent, or
if there's another way to accomplish what I want.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance! JH

 

P.S., Getting a newer braille display isn't currently an option, especially
since I have the old PB40 running tickity boo after a tune-up from the folks
at FS.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

2013-06-28 Thread Flor Lynch
Go into JAWS Options, Braillle, tab to Advanced... and enter, and open 
General. One of the  items in that submenu is Panning, which you open.


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From: JOHN HUFFMAN

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

Hello, List,



The subject line tells you what braille display and version of JAWS I'm
running.  Additionally I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7.



In older versions of JAWS, I had some ability to control the point at which
characters on the display began to slide leftward out of view as new
characters were added to the end of a line, and this also had an effect on
where words broke before the 40th cell on the display.  I believe this was
accomplish through an advanced setting called something like Panning Mode.



I found this feature valuable as I do a lot of editing in Notepad and
wouldn't care if words didn't break at all as I move the display window to
the right.  But so far I've not been able to locate an equivalent feature In
JAWS 14 menus.



Can someone tell me where to locate the Panning Mode or an equivalent, or
if there's another way to accomplish what I want.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance! JH



P.S., Getting a newer braille display isn't currently an option, especially
since I have the old PB40 running tickity boo after a tune-up from the folks
at FS.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

2013-06-28 Thread JOHN HUFFMAN
Thanks for your reply.  It enabled me to achieve the desired result. JH


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Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

Go into JAWS Options, Braillle, tab to Advanced... and enter, and open
General. One of the  items in that submenu is Panning, which you open.

-Original Message-
From: JOHN HUFFMAN
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with PowerBraille 40

Hello, List,



The subject line tells you what braille display and version of JAWS I'm
running.  Additionally I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7.



In older versions of JAWS, I had some ability to control the point at which
characters on the display began to slide leftward out of view as new
characters were added to the end of a line, and this also had an effect on
where words broke before the 40th cell on the display.  I believe this was
accomplish through an advanced setting called something like Panning Mode.



I found this feature valuable as I do a lot of editing in Notepad and
wouldn't care if words didn't break at all as I move the display window to
the right.  But so far I've not been able to locate an equivalent feature In
JAWS 14 menus.



Can someone tell me where to locate the Panning Mode or an equivalent, or
if there's another way to accomplish what I want.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance! JH



P.S., Getting a newer braille display isn't currently an option, especially
since I have the old PB40 running tickity boo after a tune-up from the folks
at FS.



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[JAWS-Users] jaws 14 with itunes 10

2013-06-23 Thread Kelsey Nicolay

Hello,
I posted this question before, but it somehow didn't make it to 
the list.  I am using itunes 10.  I honestly do not like the new 
itunes so I'm reluctant to switch.  I am currently running JAWS 
14.  I am able to accomplish tasks like importing and just 
recently have figured out a way to use the itunes store.  
However, I need some suggestions on how I could independently 
accomplish syncing my ipod.  I know it's a standard usb 
connection, but the problem is knowing when it is safe to remove.  
Are there keyboard commands for this? Also, how can I create 
playlists in itunes? I am able to click the button for new 
playlist but I don't see a way to select specific songs.  
Finally, does anyone know how to burn CDS in itunes? For example, 
if I've created a playlist that I want to burn to a CD, what 
steps would I follow using JAWS?

Thanks,
Kelsey Nicolay

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and attachments in Outlook 2003

2013-06-11 Thread Waqas Chauhdry
Greetings, 

I have just upgraded to Jaws 14 from 11 on my home office work station
running Vista Business and Office 2003. I am unable to open attachments by
using the enter key on the file. Each time I have to bring up the open
option through the applications menu key. I wonder if anyone has come across
this and knows a solution? 

Also, are there any quick guides available outlining key differences between
Jaws versions 11 and 14 or between Jaws versions 11 and 12? 

Very Best Regards

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and attachments in Outlook 2003

2013-06-11 Thread David Ferrin
So far as attachments are concerned that's how it is now a day's according
to my information at least.

David Ferrin
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that mind don't matter.

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Behalf Of Waqas Chauhdry
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and attachments in Outlook 2003

Greetings, 

I have just upgraded to Jaws 14 from 11 on my home office work station
running Vista Business and Office 2003. I am unable to open attachments by
using the enter key on the file. Each time I have to bring up the open
option through the applications menu key. I wonder if anyone has come across
this and knows a solution? 

Also, are there any quick guides available outlining key differences between
Jaws versions 11 and 14 or between Jaws versions 11 and 12? 

Very Best Regards

Waqas 


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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 May update differences?

2013-05-29 Thread Stephanie Koetje
Hi,
Does anyone know what the differences are between the original Jaws 14 release 
and the most recent update?
Thanks,
Stephanie


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-20 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Brilliant, thank you very much indeed!

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: 17 May 2013 15:27
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is 
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the position 
represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of what use is 
that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS cursor anywhere 
near the correct screen position.

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Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me,
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
what do you mean  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position, under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a normal day screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-18 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

On some web pages, there are items that can be clicked with the mouse to
bring up other pages, but there not links or graphics.  Also JAWS does not
say clickable.  For example, on the site www.amtrak.com, there is an item
that reads status.  It's not a link or graphic and dot indicated as
clickable.  You can find it by reading with the virtual cursor or with JAWS
find.  But pressing enter or space does nothing.  So I route JAWS to PC and
left click, but again nothing happens.  It appears that the only way to
activate it is to actually click it with the mouse.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

what do you mean  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position, under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a normal day screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, ok another possible problem is that when a webpage comes up, it is
auto highlighted by the jaws/mouse cursor by it (done in the scripts)
running in a mouse click and hold fashion from the top, to the bottom of
the page, and then the pc cursor follows it down, so where the pc cursor
says is not always accessible to jaws due to the clickable area is that is
which is shown on screen and jaws has been parked off screen and the pc
cursor may or may not be on screen, a real headache setup for something like
what your trying to do. 

a simple thing that might... help is to stop the reading, move to the spot
you desire to click with the pc cursor (I usually put it, a few lines from
the bottom of the viewable area) , refresh the screen with insert and
escape, then move jaws to pc, move the jaws cursor onto the item manually,
and hit the left click button. 

another item that might work is a scripter's application called hot spot
clicker, as I follow it, I believe its used to determine exactly where to
click something to activate it (mostly used in the more graphical item
screens of programs but may well work here due to the type of item that your
talking about).

a third thought, is that many of these types of items have an unidentified
icon  in them so are not noticed by the usual named icons only of jaws
normal settings. so it may just sit there and look at you funny (a whimsical
way of saying something like your encountering), and not be properly
recognized by jaws as something to pay attention to, (yes I have dealt
with pages with such things on them), so temp turn your graphics to view
all and see if graphics wise it doesn't at least show up more correctly,
refresh the screen, and then try to jaws to it and left mouse click it. 

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

On some web pages, there are items that can be clicked with the mouse to
bring up other pages, but there not links or graphics.  Also JAWS does not
say clickable.  For example, on the site www.amtrak.com, there is an item
that reads status.  It's not a link or graphic and dot indicated as
clickable.  You can find it by reading with the virtual cursor or with JAWS
find.  But pressing enter or space does nothing.  So I route JAWS to PC and
left click, but again nothing happens.  It appears that the only way to
activate it is to actually click it with the mouse.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

what do you mean  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position, under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a normal day screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David

[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the JAWS 
cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire package 
and install it that way. I think the update feature might have failed on me 
once although my memory is not clear about that at such an un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, besides 
then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Donnie Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do it from 
the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread northstar1950

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven 
(CORNWALL IT SERVICES) said:



Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of 
the JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for 
some odd reason.


Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest 
Jaws14.0.3005 Update


If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the 
entire package and install it that way. I think the update feature 
might have failed on me once although my memory is not clear about 
that at such an un-godly hour.


I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on 
me, besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Parrett

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest 
Jaws14.0.3005 Update


Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or 
do it from the update section in JAWS 14?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread northstar1950
if the jaws cursor is active, you get the location of the cursor in 
pixels so you would use those numbers in a script to goto(x,y)

Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 09:27 AM, Mike O'Brien said:


Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me,
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread JOHN HUFFMAN
Hi, List,

Currently soldiering on without a braille display, this matter of cursor
position has come to be of interest to me.

On my keyboard, running WIN7 and just-updated JAWS, I find it's the keyboard
DELETE, not numpad that works.  The first number gives me the position in a
line of text; second number gives me the lime I'm on; this is followed by a
percentage which tells me how far along I am in the file.

HTH. JH


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:

Hi friends,

can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
reason.

Many thanks in anticipation,


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
Ferrin
Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
un-godly hour.

I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
Parrett
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
Jaws14.0.3005 Update

Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
it from the update section in JAWS 14?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
Update

Hi All,

The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:

32 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe

64 Bit systems:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

2013-05-17 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

When the JAWS cursor is active, alt+numpad delete will give you the position
of the JAWS cursor in pixels.  If you want the pixel position of the PC
cursor, you will need to route JAWS to PC before asking for the screen
position.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

if the jaws cursor is active, you get the location of the cursor in pixels
so you would use those numbers in a script to goto(x,y) Legend has it that
on Friday 5/17/2013 09:27 AM, Mike O'Brien said:

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual 
cursor is active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know 
what the position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual 
buffer, but of what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still 
can't route the JAWS cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL 
IT
SERVICES) said:

 Hi friends,
 
 can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of 
 the JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for 
 some odd reason.
 
 Many thanks in anticipation,
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
 Ferrin
 Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
 Jaws14.0.3005 Update
 
 If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
 package and install it that way. I think the update feature might 
 have failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at 
 such an un-godly hour.
 
 I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
 besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
 Parrett
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
 Jaws14.0.3005 Update
 
 Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or 
 do it from the update section in JAWS 14?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
 To: Jaws-Users List
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
 Update
 
 Hi All,
 
 The download links for both 32  64 bit systems are below:
 
 32 Bit systems:
 
 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe
 
 64 Bit systems:
 
 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe
 
 HTH
 Take care.
 Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
yes but one can trigger admin alerts with such things so I tend to apologize
JIC.

thanks though and for the complement as well, I try!

de elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Not even an issue, attachments are removed on the server side for the
benefit of everybody. BTW you do have some good stuff on your grab bag page.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

hi David, yes I understood that, and that's why I apologized for sending one
to the list.

good lady if you go to either of our websites, we both have differing info
for you:
mine is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and his is at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/

take care and hope this helps you
inthaneelf

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I 
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a 
 second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
hi David, yes I understood that, and that's why I apologized for sending one
to the list.

good lady if you go to either of our websites, we both have differing info
for you:
mine is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and his is at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/

take care and hope this helps you
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't
have a resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
 have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
 attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed
 to
 be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
 time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

ok all folks, I have now put the file up on my website as a downloadable
file:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

windows 8 helpful hints is the file name although its run together for
website semantics

take care,
inthane

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.

Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed


I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
 tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
 lists.

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread inthaneelf
again just so folks get the news, 

its now on my grab bag site:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dooie
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 1:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello,

I also just purchased a new CPU with Windows8  Jaws 14;  I too would like
to receive the same.

Respectful Thanks,

Dooie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 19:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.

Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed


I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
 tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
 lists.

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-15 Thread David Ferrin
Not even an issue, attachments are removed on the server side for the
benefit of everybody. BTW you do have some good stuff on your grab bag page.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

hi David, yes I understood that, and that's why I apologized for sending one
to the list.

good lady if you go to either of our websites, we both have differing info
for you:
mine is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and his is at:
http://www.jaws-users.com/

take care and hope this helps you
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I 
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a 
 second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
 Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
 Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
I understand, smile it was an oops because I had several messages open (as
usual) and managed to attach the package to the wrong mail

my apologies
de elf
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection. 


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

oops, 

list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed to
be attached to!

Tammy,
I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
time.

HTH,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, I got a daemon back saying I couldn't send you that, if you did get it
let me know, if not, I'll make other arrangements for you to get the info...

elf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't
have a resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
 have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
 attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed
 to
 be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an
attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
 time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
same with my stuff, smile

laters,
I... 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Unfortunately at this time it's not much, with luck it will grow down the
line:

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Windows/8/index.html

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an 
 attached package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but 
 because I attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the 
 notice a second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
 Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
 Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-09 Thread Dooie
Hello,

I also just purchased a new CPU with Windows8  Jaws 14;  I too would like
to receive the same.

Respectful Thanks,

Dooie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dwight Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 19:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.

Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed


I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
 tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
 lists.

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 -- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Ferrin
FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection. 


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

oops, 

list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed to
be attached to!

Tammy,
I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
time.

HTH,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-08 Thread Tammy Freitag
Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't
have a resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list that I
 have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
 attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed
 to
 be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
 package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
 attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
 time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
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 Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-08 Thread David Ferrin
Unfortunately at this time it's not much, with luck it will grow down the
line:

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Windows/8/index.html

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Your help is greatly appreciated.  I don't mind reading but I don't have a
resource to get started.
Thanks!

On 5/8/13, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 FYI this list strips out attachments, in fact I always set any list 
 that I have a hand in configuring in that manner for your protection.


 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
 evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of inthaneelf
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:52 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 oops,

 list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with 
 and attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was 
 supposed to be attached to!

 Tammy,
 I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an 
 attached package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but 
 because I attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the 
 notice a second time.

 HTH,
 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

 Hello!
 Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
 8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
 Thanks!

 --
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 Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-08 Thread Dwight Johnson
If you could be so kind I would like the same information.  I bought a new 
computer with Windows 8 and added Jaws 14 and I am having lots of 
difficulties.


Thanks so much,
Dwight Johnson
dwight...@comcast.net

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed



I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
lists.

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

--
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-07 Thread Tammy Freitag
Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
I will send you my accumulated windows 8 notes, which includes notes on
tutorials and information along with hints we have figured out on a few
lists.

inthaneelf 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
oops, 

list, I apologize I had three messages open that I was working with and
attached something to one for the list instead of the one it was supposed to
be attached to!

Tammy, 
I sent you a message on list to tell you that I was mailing you an attached
package off list of windows 8 information I have here, but because I
attached a file to it it may not show up so here is the notice a second
time.

HTH,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and Windows 8 resources needed

Hello!
Could any one recommend some resources for learning how to use Windows
8 on a laptop with Jaws 14?  Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!

-- 
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Taking Frequent Rest Breaks

2013-04-24 Thread JOHN HUFFMAN
I'm now running JAWS 14 with a 64-bit version of Windows 7, Office 2007, and
IE9.

 

Often when using the READ ALL command to read documents including MS Word,
text and XML files, JAWS will suddenly stop and I have to repeat the command
to get the reading to resume.  Sometimes this occurs between paragraphs, but
not always.

 

Any ideas what's causing this and if there's a fix to keep this from
happening?

 

Thanks in advance. JH

 

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14, Win 8, and Skype

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Duck
Hi,

I have just started using Skype with my Windows 8 machine running JFW 14.  I
am not finding it all that easy to navigate.  Does anyone have any tips?
For example, what is the keyboard shortcut to answer and hang up a call?
This is a Windows 8 metro app so it doesn't have a ribbon or pull-down menus
or anything like that.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14, Win 8, and Skype

2013-04-10 Thread Geovanni Bahena
Scott,
My advice to you is to give that up and get the desktop version of skype for
windows. There are also good jaws scripts for it as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:06 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14, Win 8, and Skype

Hi,

I have just started using Skype with my Windows 8 machine running JFW 14.  I
am not finding it all that easy to navigate.  Does anyone have any tips?
For example, what is the keyboard shortcut to answer and hang up a call?
This is a Windows 8 metro app so it doesn't have a ribbon or pull-down menus
or anything like that.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and itunes 11

2013-04-05 Thread jim
Hi group:



Yesterday, I had to update my credit card information on my Apple ITunes 
account.

I tried many different things which always worked in the past to go through the 
different edit fields on the account page of iTunes.

Nothing worked this time, I kept getting kicked back to the home page of the 
ITunes store.

this was very frustrating for me, even when my wife looked at it, she saw a 
different page then what jaws 14 had me on.

I finally called 800 my apple and I got a live operator who did the updated 
credit card information for me, after I had explained all that I had been 
through trying to update my account.

he was very nice and he is going to send a detailed report to the tech. people 
for the iTunes store to see if they can make everything 100 percent accessible 
for the jaws screen reader.

I also let freedom scientific know about the problem with the edit fields and 
the combo boxes.

Have any of you had similar problems with changing your account settings or 
using the combo boxes on iTunes?

If so, the more of us who will take the time to contact Apple and freedom 
Scientific about these problems will help all of us in the long run.

I personally love iTunes and all that it offers us...



Jim

God bless...

You can reach me on skype at:
Skype ID: buckeye.jim

GO BUCKEYES!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and itunes 11

2013-04-05 Thread Geovanni Bahena
Jim,
There are scripts that support this part of iTunes. There is a charge of
$5.99, but it's well wirth it if you do a lot with iTunes.for instince,
multi selecting tracks in a list, ording tracks around in playlists and much
more. For more information on this visit:
http://www.blindtunes.net
Take care,
Geovanni

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and itunes 11

Hi group:



Yesterday, I had to update my credit card information on my Apple ITunes
account.

I tried many different things which always worked in the past to go through
the different edit fields on the account page of iTunes.

Nothing worked this time, I kept getting kicked back to the home page of the
ITunes store.

this was very frustrating for me, even when my wife looked at it, she saw a
different page then what jaws 14 had me on.

I finally called 800 my apple and I got a live operator who did the updated
credit card information for me, after I had explained all that I had been
through trying to update my account.

he was very nice and he is going to send a detailed report to the tech.
people for the iTunes store to see if they can make everything 100 percent
accessible for the jaws screen reader.

I also let freedom scientific know about the problem with the edit fields
and the combo boxes.

Have any of you had similar problems with changing your account settings or
using the combo boxes on iTunes?

If so, the more of us who will take the time to contact Apple and freedom
Scientific about these problems will help all of us in the long run.

I personally love iTunes and all that it offers us...



Jim

God bless...

You can reach me on skype at:
Skype ID: buckeye.jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and itunes 11

2013-04-05 Thread Ann Byrne

Actually, with PayPal fees, the charge is $9.99.
At 04:09 PM 4/5/2013, you wrote:

Jim,
There are scripts that support this part of iTunes. There is a charge of
$5.99, but it's well wirth it if you do a lot with iTunes.for instince,
multi selecting tracks in a list, ording tracks around in playlists and much
more. For more information on this visit:
http://www.blindtunes.net
Take care,
Geovanni

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Behalf Of jim
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14 and itunes 11

Hi group:



Yesterday, I had to update my credit card information on my Apple ITunes
account.

I tried many different things which always worked in the past to go through
the different edit fields on the account page of iTunes.

Nothing worked this time, I kept getting kicked back to the home page of the
ITunes store.

this was very frustrating for me, even when my wife looked at it, she saw a
different page then what jaws 14 had me on.

I finally called 800 my apple and I got a live operator who did the updated
credit card information for me, after I had explained all that I had been
through trying to update my account.

he was very nice and he is going to send a detailed report to the tech.
people for the iTunes store to see if they can make everything 100 percent
accessible for the jaws screen reader.

I also let freedom scientific know about the problem with the edit fields
and the combo boxes.

Have any of you had similar problems with changing your account settings or
using the combo boxes on iTunes?

If so, the more of us who will take the time to contact Apple and freedom
Scientific about these problems will help all of us in the long run.

I personally love iTunes and all that it offers us...



Jim

God bless...

You can reach me on skype at:
Skype ID: buckeye.jim

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 14 and itunes 11

2013-04-05 Thread jim
No thanks on the scrips.
Until now every thing was working just fine...
Jim

God bless...

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 The Friend Mail

2013-03-01 Thread Donnie Parrett
Since upgrading to JAWS 14 I have found that I am not able to use the like
or comment links in The Friend Mail.  When I try to enter on those links,
nothing happens.  Is anyone else experiencing this problem?  Is there some
settings in JAWS 14 that I need to adjust to be able to do this again?
I am not having any problem with links in anything else.  Just The Friend
Mail which is an interface for FaceBook.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-21 Thread David Ferrin
Tell me again why I do this. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

pardon me.

with what I hear 5 year olds saying when they run up and down the streets
here I didn't think I was that bad mouthed

my own language around the house makes this look totally g rated, so I am
being very polite goodmen

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. 
 I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or 
 should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security 
 problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and
Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted 
 from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. 
 Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
pardon me.

with what I hear 5 year olds saying when they run up and down the streets
here I didn't think I was that bad mouthed

my own language around the house makes this look totally g rated, so I am
being very polite goodmen

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. 
 I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or 
 should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security 
 problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and
Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted 
 from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. 
 Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
which was my point

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Stormin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work with
myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 was
installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for. 
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration as
it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at the
dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He uses
another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards and
bingo so down loaded them. 
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the latest
of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on four
different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to work
with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a break
and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts. 
I can see why people are afraid to ask questions. As one, not worded
correctly. Really? might be a beginner or not sure how to ask.
Two, This might be a silly question so not sure if I should ask it.
I've been using jaws since it came out. I am no more comfortable now with
the inside of this computer now or then.
Geno Just a thought



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-19 Thread Steve Boodram

That's why I am so comfortable here.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?



Yes I am quite able to state that Gene has all the licenses that he needs
paid for out of his own pocket because I set it up almost a year ago.

I guess it has been far too long since I made the point that all who are
subscribed on here may ask questions no matter of their respective skill
level and somebody who feels that they are more advance doesn't approve of
the manner said question was stated remember this little fact. Back when I
was teaching at the local community college I always reminded my students
that nobody is the best at computers, there will always be a person who
knows more or at least different stuff. I even went on to say that there
were many people better than me but none of them were in the room at that
time.

I told them that if any of you were better than me you wouldn't be sitting
there and I would not be sitting up here. I must admit that the teachers
chair was more comfortable but I didn't get to stay in it very much.

Never the less nobody should ever feel embarrassed or afraid to ask a
question on here, that was at the very Genesis of this list.

If anybody feels like they have been put down call it to the attention of
the management team listed on the help page. I do read all of the mail on
here but with upwards of 50 messages a day give or take something might 
have

slipped past me in the rush.

Good people we need, those with bad attitudes are expendable.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Stormin stor...@maine.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work 
with

myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it 
all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 
was

installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for.
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration 
as

it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at 
the

dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He 
uses

another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards 
and

bingo so down loaded them.
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the 
latest

of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on 
four

different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to 
work

with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a 
break

and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts.
I can see why people are afraid

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread David Ferrin
Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. 
 I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or 
 should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security 
 problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and
Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted 
 from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. 
 Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Capelle
java is needed for sites, plus, they did fix this security issue in update 
13.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris,

apparently your one of those who are totally against java,

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:

I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer.
I

was

going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or
should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security
problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and

Malware..

All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted
from

my

machine 20 minutes ago.
Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but..
Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Hill
You may be confusing java with java script.  There may be a few websites 
that need java, but having disabled it on my machine and my wife's, and 
leaving that way for a few months, I can say that we haven't found a 
website yet that wouldn't work without java.  These two similarly named 
languages are completely different.  From what I've been reading it may 
take a long time for the problems with java to be fixed; don't be 
surprised if they take a few more swipes at it.




On 2/18/2013 06:58, Michael Capelle wrote:

java is needed for sites, plus, they did fix this security issue in
update 13.

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris,

apparently your one of those who are totally against java,

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less
security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:

I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer.
I

was

going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or
should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security
problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and

Malware..

All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted
from

my

machine 20 minutes ago.
Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but..
Geno



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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Stormin
So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work with
myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 was
installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for. 
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration as
it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at the
dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He uses
another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards and
bingo so down loaded them. 
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the latest
of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on four
different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to work
with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a break
and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts. 
I can see why people are afraid to ask questions. As one, not worded
correctly. Really? might be a beginner or not sure how to ask.
Two, This might be a silly question so not sure if I should ask it.
I've been using jaws since it came out. I am no more comfortable now with
the inside of this computer now or then.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Capelle
I agree with you, I own a list of over 600 people on it, with various skills 
ETC.  Not everyone is an advanced computer, not everyone has a masters 
degree.  I know of a member on my list in his 70's, and he is still 
learning.  Before being rude, ask yourself, is this how I would want someone 
to treat me?

Just my two cents.

-Original Message- 
From: Stormin

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work with
myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 was
installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for.
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration as
it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at the
dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He uses
another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards and
bingo so down loaded them.
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the latest
of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on four
different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to work
with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a break
and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts.
I can see why people are afraid to ask questions. As one, not worded
correctly. Really? might be a beginner or not sure how to ask.
Two, This might be a silly question so not sure if I should ask it.
I've been using jaws since it came out. I am no more comfortable now with
the inside of this computer now or then.
Geno Just a thought



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Steve
Yeah, I've lived without Sun's Java now for the last six weeks and have yet 
to find any issues.  Don't confuse the Sun Java with Adobe's Flash which is 
different.


I know they claim to have resolved the issue with update 13, but they also 
claimed to have fixed it with update 11, which was shown to not be the case 
in a couple days.  Also, despite Sun's claims, untying Internet Explorer 
from Flash wasn't very easy.


Since there are real critical security issues with Flash that were left open 
for a long time, if you don't need Sun Flash, why open yourself up to 
potential problems?



- Original Message - 
From: Chris Hill hil...@earthlink.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


You may be confusing java with java script.  There may be a few websites 
that need java, but having disabled it on my machine and my wife's, and 
leaving that way for a few months, I can say that we haven't found a 
website yet that wouldn't work without java.  These two similarly named 
languages are completely different.  From what I've been reading it may 
take a long time for the problems with java to be fixed; don't be 
surprised if they take a few more swipes at it.




On 2/18/2013 06:58, Michael Capelle wrote:

java is needed for sites, plus, they did fix this security issue in
update 13.

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Remember this is a family oriented list, let's watch our language.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the 
ones

that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Chris,

apparently your one of those who are totally against java,

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less
security
issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:

I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer.
I

was

going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or
should be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security
problems. As for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and

Malware..

All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted
from

my

machine 20 minutes ago.
Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but..
Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread David Ferrin
Yes I am quite able to state that Gene has all the licenses that he needs 
paid for out of his own pocket because I set it up almost a year ago.

I guess it has been far too long since I made the point that all who are 
subscribed on here may ask questions no matter of their respective skill 
level and somebody who feels that they are more advance doesn't approve of 
the manner said question was stated remember this little fact. Back when I 
was teaching at the local community college I always reminded my students 
that nobody is the best at computers, there will always be a person who 
knows more or at least different stuff. I even went on to say that there 
were many people better than me but none of them were in the room at that 
time.

I told them that if any of you were better than me you wouldn't be sitting 
there and I would not be sitting up here. I must admit that the teachers 
chair was more comfortable but I didn't get to stay in it very much.

Never the less nobody should ever feel embarrassed or afraid to ask a 
question on here, that was at the very Genesis of this list.

If anybody feels like they have been put down call it to the attention of 
the management team listed on the help page. I do read all of the mail on 
here but with upwards of 50 messages a day give or take something might have 
slipped past me in the rush.

Good people we need, those with bad attitudes are expendable.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Stormin stor...@maine.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


So a up-date and not so correct sentences.
First off I found a person, not on this group that was willing to work with
myself and this computer.
A: First off with all virus protection, which three they are all paid Pro
programs.
B: Still using Outlook Office as work for home and e-mail but will in time
go to Outlook Office 2010 after finishing training in it. Just to busy
training for up grades  for AAA call center.
C: I use Quicken 10 thinking and that runs my home entirely.
That said. This is a Windows 7 and the owner on this list knows what it all
has in it. Which Jaws 13 latest was working grand on it. When Internet 9 was
installed, I decided to go with Jaws 14 that I have a license for.
First stripping all of Jaws 13 and all associated to it.
Then installed Jaws 14 February release. This proven to be a frustration as
it would freeze up.
I did report and to this date not heard from FS Tech that is looking at the
dump files that was told on HIGH Priority.
That said, I asked questions here and because of sentence and language
barriers.. Well, I contacted a friend that uses Jaws here and there. He uses
another screen reader but this is Jaws group.
First off he noted that this machine was more or less set up for gamers.
Thus noted go to the web site and see what recommendations and then to the
Microsoft site and see the optional up dates see if related to the cards and
bingo so down loaded them.
Also installed with this gentleman's Help the newest of Java for windows 7
and 64 bit and installed. Unlike some comments on the list. It is a valued
tool here and there. FS, Tech, also advised that one should have the latest
of Java as noted on their site.
Because of the Jaws not coming back and well just turn the power off on four
different times. So Friday I did a complete disc clean up, left over night
to do it's thing, the last step 7 hours.  then After work did a defrag. To
this point Jaws 14 seems by all accounts working and no disappearance of
Jaws 14 to this point. I am going to leave it on all day today to see if
Jaws 14 will still be there anytime during the day and evening. If so the
ideas that my friend in Louisiana, who has a heart of Gold, willing to work
with me knowing I am scared as heck of the guts of this computer. Slowly
walk me through VIA Skype to complete the project at hand. Compared to the
cold reception on the Jaws Users Group.
Yet, There is some valued information with Blind Computing and Jaws users
group so I don't mind donating to the keeping David's group site going.
As in the business of Call Receiving at AAA, Presentation, compassion,
understanding and tone of delivery which is highly recommended, demanded,
that it could be  used here. So quick to judge. There is myself and others
that are scared as heck of the insides of the computer. Others here are A
walk in the park on the insides of a computer. So how about cutting a break
and understand all are not near the level as those of you that are on a
higher level or experts.
I can see why people are afraid to ask questions. As one, not worded
correctly. Really? might be a beginner or not sure how to ask.
Two, This might be a silly question so not sure if I should ask it.
I've been using jaws since it came out. I am no more comfortable now

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Dan Rossi
If you are going to turn off java because of worries about security 
issues, you you should also remove all traces of Adobe products as they 
are even worse than java when it comes to security issues.


I need to use java so have used the access bridge, and it definitely 
works, at least on the sites I need it for.



--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Senior Oracle Database Administrator
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Hill
Non sequitor.  I need flash.  I have yet to find a need for java in over 
a month of not having it.




On 2/18/2013 19:56, Dan Rossi wrote:

If you are going to turn off java because of worries about security
issues, you you should also remove all traces of Adobe products as they
are even worse than java when it comes to security issues.

I need to use java so have used the access bridge, and it definitely
works, at least on the sites I need it for.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
Chris, 

apparently your one of those who are totally against java, 

I don't use it myself, but some folks do, and therefore need java and the
java bridge, if you have the location for the files give them to the poor
fellow and quit being a pain in the rear end, this is most unlike you?
whatthehell?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably 
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but 
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less 
security issue.



On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:
 I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. I
was
 going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or should
 be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security problems. As
 for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and Malware..
 All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted from
my
 machine 20 minutes ago.
 Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. Geno



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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread Stormin
I would like to talk to a tech person on here about Jaws 14, help getting
the proper Java and bridge for this W-7 and 64 and to install..

Obviously I am doing something wrong and would like to do a tandem hook up
to install correctly after sending me the correct Java to use and bridge
zipped please.

Getting frustrated with. Tech Support is looking at the dump files and
suggested to get back Java..

Papa Geno requesting help please

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
First question: how do you know you have a problem?  What isn't working? 
 For example, the Libre Office 3.64 did not work, but the 4.0 at least 
tries.  Open office didn't work either last time I checked.  Even at its 
best, Libre Office under windows with java access bridge is not ready 
for prime time, it is only somewhat workable in the word processor, the 
spreadsheet doesn't tell you where you are at unless you set screen echo 
to full and listen to a lot of chatter.






On 2/15/2013 10:45, Stormin wrote:

I would like to talk to a tech person on here about Jaws 14, help getting
the proper Java and bridge for this W-7 and 64 and to install..

Obviously I am doing something wrong and would like to do a tandem hook up
to install correctly after sending me the correct Java to use and bridge
zipped please.

Getting frustrated with. Tech Support is looking at the dump files and
suggested to get back Java..

Papa Geno requesting help please

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread Stormin
I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. I was
going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or should
be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security problems. As
for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and Malware..
All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted from my
machine 20 minutes ago.
Wish I was a brain in this and a few years younger to grasp , but.. Geno 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
Well, unless you are going to use libre office or similar, you probably 
don't need Java for anything.  I guess some websites might use it, but 
unless you know you need it, get rid of it and you'll have one less 
security issue.




On 2/15/2013 11:09, Stormin wrote:

I have no clue. I am not a expert nor know the guts of this computer. I was
going on what FS-Tech, Dennis suggested that Java 64 type needed or should
be on the machine. As I removed being heard Java has security problems. As
for virus etc. Running Pro in AVG, Super Anti Spyware and Malware..
All I know and FS Tech is looking at dump files that they extracted from my
machine 20 minutes ago.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread David Ferrin
Somebody on here might know something about JAVA I don't know, but
personally I have never messed around with it at all. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Stormin
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:46 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

I would like to talk to a tech person on here about Jaws 14, help getting
the proper Java and bridge for this W-7 and 64 and to install..

Obviously I am doing something wrong and would like to do a tandem hook up
to install correctly after sending me the correct Java to use and bridge
zipped please.

Getting frustrated with. Tech Support is looking at the dump files and
suggested to get back Java..

Papa Geno requesting help please

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2013-02-15 Thread Stormin
Thank you David, but, I found a friend blind, Jaws knowledgeable and we work
through the FS site info and properly installed Java for 64 and then
gradually with patience to work with me. So now installed. Thanks 
Geno/Papa Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread Steve
I know Java just came out with an update this week, that supposedly 
addresses their gaping security issues.  But, I am certainly not planning to 
install Java soon after all the problems Sun had with it that got revealed a 
month ago.


Its one thing to have problems, its quite another to have known about them 
for over a year and not address them.
- Original Message - 
From: Stormin stor...@maine.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


Thank you David, but, I found a friend blind, Jaws knowledgeable and we 
work

through the FS site info and properly installed Java for 64 and then
gradually with patience to work with me. So now installed. Thanks
Geno/Papa Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread David Ferrin
Good deal, glad to hear it.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Stormin stor...@maine.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


Thank you David, but, I found a friend blind, Jaws knowledgeable and we work
through the FS site info and properly installed Java for 64 and then
gradually with patience to work with me. So now installed. Thanks
Geno/Papa Geno



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

2013-02-15 Thread John R Vaughn
List, I have been reading the posts on Jaws and java on this lists.  I am
running Jaws 14 with windows 7,Should  I, not run Java on my computer.  it
is installed on my computer, but have had some computer problems that I
cannot diagnose as to problems I am having with improper shutdowns causing
issues when I reboot the computer.
Appreciate any thoughts on the matter.
John, in sunny southwest florida

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?

Good deal, glad to hear it.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message -
From: Stormin stor...@maine.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 14/W-7 and Java?


Thank you David, but, I found a friend blind, Jaws knowledgeable and we work
through the FS site info and properly installed Java for 64 and then
gradually with patience to work with me. So now installed. Thanks Geno/Papa
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

2013-02-13 Thread Scott Duck
Hello Everyone,

I am about to purchase a new laptop.  I am trying to decide rather to go
ahead and get a Windows 8 machine or try to find one with Windows 7.  I am
using JAWS 14, which does work with Windows 8.  However, I have been told by
some that Windows 8 is difficult to use with a screen reader.  I am curious
as to what kind of experience that list members have had using JAWS with
Windows 8.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

2013-02-13 Thread Hamit Campos
I'd say go ahead and go for windows 8. It works just fine for me. It's not
hard to use it's just people don't like to work hard. I'm like that to some
times to be honest. So I'm not really bashingthem. See what is hard wal what
was kind of for me was that things aren;'t all where you know them to be.
Some things work differently too. So yeah, it's not all that bad. The start
screen, it's like a table. So, yeah. It's your choice in the end, but I
would go for it if it were me. You're very wize to ask how it works. I
applaud you. One shouldn't just fall for the it's hard to use with a screen
reader thing so easily. One should ask Oh is it r4eally? Then you will see
for your self. What others call hard maybe a peace of cake for you. Who
knows?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

Hello Everyone,

I am about to purchase a new laptop.  I am trying to decide rather to go
ahead and get a Windows 8 machine or try to find one with Windows 7.  I am
using JAWS 14, which does work with Windows 8.  However, I have been told by
some that Windows 8 is difficult to use with a screen reader.  I am curious
as to what kind of experience that list members have had using JAWS with
Windows 8.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

2013-02-13 Thread Steve

Certainly, Win 8 is useable by Jaws 14 etc.

I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy, comments like what is below don't seem to be 
very helpful.  Here are some considerations to bear in mind:


1.  Win 8 layout is completely different from earlier versions.  I do AT 
training, and there are several people who have upgraded to Win 8 and 
subsequently had their systems rolled back to Win 7.  Yes, there are 
workarounds like classic shell etc. but the Win 8 experience is if not quite 
radically different, it is certainly a lot more unique that previous 
upgrades.


Second, you may not have support for some of your programs in Win 8, I don't 
know if Openbook has released a patch to work in Win 8 yet, for example.


If you are getting a new computer, then there are some nice advantages with 
Win 8 including Safeboot.  But, since there are so many sighted users 
unhappy with Win 8, for my money, I'm sticking with Win 7 which will be 
supported for another seven years, and I'll await a more user-friendly 
Windows 9 which will probably be out sooner than later.  I think Win 8 is 
Microsoft's latest equivalent of Windows ME and Vista, as Herman and His 
Hermits would say A Must to Avoid!


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8



I'd say go ahead and go for windows 8. It works just fine for me. It's not
hard to use it's just people don't like to work hard. I'm like that to 
some
times to be honest. So I'm not really bashingthem. See what is hard wal 
what

was kind of for me was that things aren;'t all where you know them to be.
Some things work differently too. So yeah, it's not all that bad. The 
start

screen, it's like a table. So, yeah. It's your choice in the end, but I
would go for it if it were me. You're very wize to ask how it works. I
applaud you. One shouldn't just fall for the it's hard to use with a 
screen
reader thing so easily. One should ask Oh is it r4eally? Then you will 
see

for your self. What others call hard maybe a peace of cake for you. Who
knows?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

Hello Everyone,

I am about to purchase a new laptop.  I am trying to decide rather to go
ahead and get a Windows 8 machine or try to find one with Windows 7.  I am
using JAWS 14, which does work with Windows 8.  However, I have been told 
by
some that Windows 8 is difficult to use with a screen reader.  I am 
curious

as to what kind of experience that list members have had using JAWS with
Windows 8.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

2013-02-13 Thread jim
Hi Scott:

I made the decision to buy a new windows 7 desktop computer in November.
I read the how to use windows 8 books from bookshare.
I decided for now to stay with windows 7, even though for the most part windows 
8 looks like it works very well with Jaws.
I am very happy with my choice, I am one who is not afraid to learn new things.
I just think for me that windows 7 is smooth and secure right out of the box, 
and very accessible with jaws.
I had no problems setting the new computer up and installing my programs.
I have a 3.6 GHZ AMD FX-4100 quad processor with 6 GB of ram and a TB of 
storage.
I was able to buy this computer cheaper because it was a windows 7 instead of a 
w-8.
So keep that in mind as well as you shop for a computer, you should be able to 
get a more powerful windows 7 computer for the same money as a less powerful 
window 8 one , in my opinion.

Jim

God bless...

You can reach me on skype at:
Skype ID: buckeye.jim

GO BUCKEYES!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

2013-02-13 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool man. Like I said. It's your choice in the end, and yeah, I guess if
there are things that don't work then yeah that is something to be carefull
of. Like Open Book for instance. Come to think of it, Magic is another
example. It don't work. I guess that the lay out thing didn't really bother
me as much as it did others. That's fine I guess. I guess my main theme
should have been try it out for your self and see what you think. Take a win
8 PC out for a spin in other words. But I guess you said you'll stick with
Win 7 though. That's fine. I was just saying it's fine, win 8 is fine that
is, and it was good of you to ask. It would have been even cooler if you
could try it out which I don't know if you have. Paull Thurott guesses that
Win 9 will be more metro like then Win 8 already is. But who knows. We'll
just have to weight and see.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

Certainly, Win 8 is useable by Jaws 14 etc.

I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy, comments like what is below don't seem to be
very helpful.  Here are some considerations to bear in mind:

1.  Win 8 layout is completely different from earlier versions.  I do AT
training, and there are several people who have upgraded to Win 8 and
subsequently had their systems rolled back to Win 7.  Yes, there are
workarounds like classic shell etc. but the Win 8 experience is if not quite
radically different, it is certainly a lot more unique that previous
upgrades.

Second, you may not have support for some of your programs in Win 8, I don't
know if Openbook has released a patch to work in Win 8 yet, for example.

If you are getting a new computer, then there are some nice advantages with
Win 8 including Safeboot.  But, since there are so many sighted users
unhappy with Win 8, for my money, I'm sticking with Win 7 which will be
supported for another seven years, and I'll await a more user-friendly
Windows 9 which will probably be out sooner than later.  I think Win 8 is
Microsoft's latest equivalent of Windows ME and Vista, as Herman and His
Hermits would say A Must to Avoid!

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8


 I'd say go ahead and go for windows 8. It works just fine for me. It's not
 hard to use it's just people don't like to work hard. I'm like that to 
 some
 times to be honest. So I'm not really bashingthem. See what is hard wal 
 what
 was kind of for me was that things aren;'t all where you know them to be.
 Some things work differently too. So yeah, it's not all that bad. The 
 start
 screen, it's like a table. So, yeah. It's your choice in the end, but I
 would go for it if it were me. You're very wize to ask how it works. I
 applaud you. One shouldn't just fall for the it's hard to use with a 
 screen
 reader thing so easily. One should ask Oh is it r4eally? Then you will 
 see
 for your self. What others call hard maybe a peace of cake for you. Who
 knows?

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Scott Duck
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:42 AM
 To: Jaws List
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 with Windows 8

 Hello Everyone,

 I am about to purchase a new laptop.  I am trying to decide rather to go
 ahead and get a Windows 8 machine or try to find one with Windows 7.  I am
 using JAWS 14, which does work with Windows 8.  However, I have been told 
 by
 some that Windows 8 is difficult to use with a screen reader.  I am 
 curious
 as to what kind of experience that list members have had using JAWS with
 Windows 8.

 Thanks,

 Scott Duck

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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 update posting on Monday, Feb 4th

2013-02-04 Thread Eric Damery
Greetings List,

Just wanted to make you aware that an update will be posted shortly. We have 
been busy with adjustments to JAWS 14 since the December posting and I've 
included the list of changes below. This will be an auto update which you will 
be prompted to get when you restart JAWS, as soon as the release is live today.

Regards,
Eric

Enhancements in JAWS 14.0.1534 (February 2013)
The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS 
14.0.1037 release and the JAWS 14.0.1534 posting.
JAWS

  *   Several issues with selecting text using JAWS have been addressed.
  *   Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading the correct information 
when selecting various buttons that open drop down menus on the Facebook Web 
site. For example, the edit or remove buttons.
  *   Resolved an issue with the Braille Study Mode on-the-fly command 
WHIZWHEEL+NAVROW BUTTON not announcing and spelling the word as expected. This 
only occured with Focus braille displays that contain WHIZWHEELS.
  *   Removed an unnecessary entry regarding braille panning from the list of 
controls in the Define Structured Mode dialog box in Settings Center.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue with JAWS not properly getting focus 
in WPF applications when exiting a JAWS dialog box such as the Links List.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue using the SecureCRT application in 
Windows 8 where pressing INSERT+ALT+W to virtualize the window was not opening 
the virtual viewer as expected.
  *   The default dot firmness for Freedom Scientific braille displays has been 
changed to 100 percent, which is the highest setting.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing WINDOWS Key+PAUSE to open the System 
Properties dialog box was not working over a JAWS Tandem connection.
  *   When running JAWS and MAGic together, resolved an issue where using 
Navigation Quick Key P to move by paragraph was moving by two paragraphs 
instead of one.
  *   Addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close 
when pressing ALT+TAB to move between Windows Explorer and a Command Prompt 
window.
  *   When using JAWS over a Remote Desktop connection, resolved a reported 
issue where the ALT key would sometimes become stuck under certain 
circumstances.
  *   Addressed a reported issue with JAWS not reading tree views correctly in 
Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio.
  *   When using a Focus braille display with JAWS over a remote Terminal 
Services connection, addressed issues with entering text in computer braille or 
contracted braille from the Perkins-style keyboard on the Focus display. 
Braille navigation worked as expected.
  *   Addressed an issue reading various symbols using the Danish Vocalizer 
Direct voice.
  *   Added two new built-in script functions, CallFunctionByName and 
PerformScriptByName, which take the name of the function or script to be run as 
the first parameter.
  *   Resolved an issue with the CollectionCopy script function not copying 
arrays properly.
  *   As requested by a customer, the BrailleString script function now works 
even when flash messages are turned off. In addition, the flash message prefix 
is no longer displayed as part of the text that is passed to the function to be 
displayed.
Adobe Acrobat

  *   Addressed an issue using the P and SHIFT+P Navigation Quick Keys to 
navigate PDF forms.
  *   Addressed an intermittent issue with JAWS unexpectedly closing when 
opening certain PDF files.
Microsoft Access

  *   Addressed an issue with Access 2010 where JAWS was not announcing 
controls as expected in the Backstage view.
Microsoft Excel

  *   Resolved an issue in Excel 2010 where certain controls in the Insert 
Hyperlink dialog box were not being spoken correctly when using TAB.
  *   When navigating in a comment, resolved an issue where the author's name 
was not spoken or displayed in braille.
  *   If you attempt to override the automatically defined title for a workbook 
that has defined titles using Quick Settings, the column/row options are now 
changing to undefined as expected.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the suggestions list in 
the Spell Checker, was not displaying the spelling error in braille.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the Spellchecker was not 
announcing the misspelled word unless focus was on the Suggestions list.
  *   Added custom tutor help messages for various edit fields in the Data 
Validation and Chart dialog boxes to provide more detailed information.
  *   If an edit combo box is opened from the ribbon, for instance, the Font 
edit combo, resolved an issue where JAWS would not speak any of the values as 
you navigated with the ARROW keys.
  *   If you apply formatting to a cell such as bold, resolved an issue where 
it was reported incorrectly the first time you applied it.
  *   A new group, Monitoring Cell Assignments, has been added to the Workbook, 
Worksheet, and Region Settings in the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 update posting on Monday, Feb 4th

2013-02-04 Thread Kliphton A M
Where do we report bugs for certain programs?  I have been using office 2013 
for almost 4 weeks, and want to report what is working and not working.  
Granted I haven't tried it with the new update, but doubt they covered 
everything.
On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Eric Damery edam...@freedomscientific.com wrote:

 Greetings List,
 
 Just wanted to make you aware that an update will be posted shortly. We have 
 been busy with adjustments to JAWS 14 since the December posting and I've 
 included the list of changes below. This will be an auto update which you 
 will be prompted to get when you restart JAWS, as soon as the release is live 
 today.
 
 Regards,
 Eric
 
 Enhancements in JAWS 14.0.1534 (February 2013)
 The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS 
 14.0.1037 release and the JAWS 14.0.1534 posting.
 JAWS
 
  *   Several issues with selecting text using JAWS have been addressed.
  *   Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading the correct information 
 when selecting various buttons that open drop down menus on the Facebook Web 
 site. For example, the edit or remove buttons.
  *   Resolved an issue with the Braille Study Mode on-the-fly command 
 WHIZWHEEL+NAVROW BUTTON not announcing and spelling the word as expected. 
 This only occured with Focus braille displays that contain WHIZWHEELS.
  *   Removed an unnecessary entry regarding braille panning from the list of 
 controls in the Define Structured Mode dialog box in Settings Center.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue with JAWS not properly getting focus 
 in WPF applications when exiting a JAWS dialog box such as the Links List.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue using the SecureCRT application in 
 Windows 8 where pressing INSERT+ALT+W to virtualize the window was not 
 opening the virtual viewer as expected.
  *   The default dot firmness for Freedom Scientific braille displays has 
 been changed to 100 percent, which is the highest setting.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing WINDOWS Key+PAUSE to open the System 
 Properties dialog box was not working over a JAWS Tandem connection.
  *   When running JAWS and MAGic together, resolved an issue where using 
 Navigation Quick Key P to move by paragraph was moving by two paragraphs 
 instead of one.
  *   Addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close 
 when pressing ALT+TAB to move between Windows Explorer and a Command Prompt 
 window.
  *   When using JAWS over a Remote Desktop connection, resolved a reported 
 issue where the ALT key would sometimes become stuck under certain 
 circumstances.
  *   Addressed a reported issue with JAWS not reading tree views correctly in 
 Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio.
  *   When using a Focus braille display with JAWS over a remote Terminal 
 Services connection, addressed issues with entering text in computer braille 
 or contracted braille from the Perkins-style keyboard on the Focus display. 
 Braille navigation worked as expected.
  *   Addressed an issue reading various symbols using the Danish Vocalizer 
 Direct voice.
  *   Added two new built-in script functions, CallFunctionByName and 
 PerformScriptByName, which take the name of the function or script to be run 
 as the first parameter.
  *   Resolved an issue with the CollectionCopy script function not copying 
 arrays properly.
  *   As requested by a customer, the BrailleString script function now works 
 even when flash messages are turned off. In addition, the flash message 
 prefix is no longer displayed as part of the text that is passed to the 
 function to be displayed.
 Adobe Acrobat
 
  *   Addressed an issue using the P and SHIFT+P Navigation Quick Keys to 
 navigate PDF forms.
  *   Addressed an intermittent issue with JAWS unexpectedly closing when 
 opening certain PDF files.
 Microsoft Access
 
  *   Addressed an issue with Access 2010 where JAWS was not announcing 
 controls as expected in the Backstage view.
 Microsoft Excel
 
  *   Resolved an issue in Excel 2010 where certain controls in the Insert 
 Hyperlink dialog box were not being spoken correctly when using TAB.
  *   When navigating in a comment, resolved an issue where the author's name 
 was not spoken or displayed in braille.
  *   If you attempt to override the automatically defined title for a 
 workbook that has defined titles using Quick Settings, the column/row options 
 are now changing to undefined as expected.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the suggestions list in 
 the Spell Checker, was not displaying the spelling error in braille.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the Spellchecker was not 
 announcing the misspelled word unless focus was on the Suggestions list.
  *   Added custom tutor help messages for various edit fields in the Data 
 Validation and Chart dialog boxes to provide more detailed information.
  *   If an edit combo box is opened from the ribbon, for instance, the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 update posting on Monday, Feb 4th

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Hill
New update is out, so you might want to check your situations before 
reporting.


You can always email supp...@freedomscientific.com, or just go to the 
Jaws headquarters, tech support and there is a problem report form there.






On 2/4/2013 09:34, Kliphton A M wrote:

Where do we report bugs for certain programs?  I have been using office 2013 
for almost 4 weeks, and want to report what is working and not working.  
Granted I haven't tried it with the new update, but doubt they covered 
everything.
On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Eric Damery edam...@freedomscientific.com wrote:


Greetings List,

Just wanted to make you aware that an update will be posted shortly. We have 
been busy with adjustments to JAWS 14 since the December posting and I've 
included the list of changes below. This will be an auto update which you will 
be prompted to get when you restart JAWS, as soon as the release is live today.

Regards,
Eric

Enhancements in JAWS 14.0.1534 (February 2013)
The following is a list of items addressed or added between the final JAWS 
14.0.1037 release and the JAWS 14.0.1534 posting.
JAWS

  *   Several issues with selecting text using JAWS have been addressed.
  *   Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading the correct information 
when selecting various buttons that open drop down menus on the Facebook Web 
site. For example, the edit or remove buttons.
  *   Resolved an issue with the Braille Study Mode on-the-fly command 
WHIZWHEEL+NAVROW BUTTON not announcing and spelling the word as expected. This 
only occured with Focus braille displays that contain WHIZWHEELS.
  *   Removed an unnecessary entry regarding braille panning from the list of 
controls in the Define Structured Mode dialog box in Settings Center.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue with JAWS not properly getting focus 
in WPF applications when exiting a JAWS dialog box such as the Links List.
  *   Resolved a customer reported issue using the SecureCRT application in 
Windows 8 where pressing INSERT+ALT+W to virtualize the window was not opening 
the virtual viewer as expected.
  *   The default dot firmness for Freedom Scientific braille displays has been 
changed to 100 percent, which is the highest setting.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing WINDOWS Key+PAUSE to open the System 
Properties dialog box was not working over a JAWS Tandem connection.
  *   When running JAWS and MAGic together, resolved an issue where using 
Navigation Quick Key P to move by paragraph was moving by two paragraphs 
instead of one.
  *   Addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS would unexpectedly close 
when pressing ALT+TAB to move between Windows Explorer and a Command Prompt 
window.
  *   When using JAWS over a Remote Desktop connection, resolved a reported 
issue where the ALT key would sometimes become stuck under certain 
circumstances.
  *   Addressed a reported issue with JAWS not reading tree views correctly in 
Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio.
  *   When using a Focus braille display with JAWS over a remote Terminal 
Services connection, addressed issues with entering text in computer braille or 
contracted braille from the Perkins-style keyboard on the Focus display. 
Braille navigation worked as expected.
  *   Addressed an issue reading various symbols using the Danish Vocalizer 
Direct voice.
  *   Added two new built-in script functions, CallFunctionByName and 
PerformScriptByName, which take the name of the function or script to be run as 
the first parameter.
  *   Resolved an issue with the CollectionCopy script function not copying 
arrays properly.
  *   As requested by a customer, the BrailleString script function now works 
even when flash messages are turned off. In addition, the flash message prefix 
is no longer displayed as part of the text that is passed to the function to be 
displayed.
Adobe Acrobat

  *   Addressed an issue using the P and SHIFT+P Navigation Quick Keys to 
navigate PDF forms.
  *   Addressed an intermittent issue with JAWS unexpectedly closing when 
opening certain PDF files.
Microsoft Access

  *   Addressed an issue with Access 2010 where JAWS was not announcing 
controls as expected in the Backstage view.
Microsoft Excel

  *   Resolved an issue in Excel 2010 where certain controls in the Insert 
Hyperlink dialog box were not being spoken correctly when using TAB.
  *   When navigating in a comment, resolved an issue where the author's name 
was not spoken or displayed in braille.
  *   If you attempt to override the automatically defined title for a workbook 
that has defined titles using Quick Settings, the column/row options are now 
changing to undefined as expected.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the suggestions list in 
the Spell Checker, was not displaying the spelling error in braille.
  *   Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+F7 from the Spellchecker was not 
announcing the misspelled word unless focus was on the Suggestions list.
  *   

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