KR> KR2 For Sale

[Larry Knox]

EBay # 220740428222 and 220740419774 and buy 2 for that price in OR

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Russ Sing
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:28 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale

Im in Mexico, MO the airplane is in my garage.  I am asking 2500 for it.
 Thanks,Russ





From: Marty Martin 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:26:48 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale

>
>  Russ
>
> But where are you and the airplane and how much are you looking for?  I am
> in Calif.
>
>
> M. Greg Martin
>
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KR> Motor mount

[Larry Knox]

As I tried to get off the kr net and haven't made it yet I have posted all
my KR2 stuff on EBay if anyone is looking and it will go cheap. There are 3
sets of plans and 3 airplanes from almost finished to parts.
la...@lebanair.com Now I will try again to get off the KRnet

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Of PatS
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:10 PM
To: KRnet; Corvair Forum
Subject: KR> Motor mount

Guys:
  Not too long past someone posted that they had made a motor mount for a
Corvair to mount on a harbor freight engine unit.  I have one and would like
to have that info.  Please contact me off net.  Thanks.
psh...@bayspringstel.net
IHS
PatS
Seminary, MS
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KR> KR2S for sale

[Larry Knox]

I'm in kind of the same situation after my replacement shoulder surgery and
being told never anything over 5 pounds and nothing repetitive so I have
both my KR2s and Kr2 kits on EBay as well as the almost completed KR2S
Corvair. Anyone interested check it quit on EBay. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of John Godwin
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:34 AM
To: KRnet
Cc: aimeegodwin
Subject: KR> KR2S for sale

  Well guys, I hate to do it but I need to get rid of my KR2s. After I had
my heart attach last year I don't want to keep jumping through the FAA
stress test hoop every year to keep my medical. 
 What I have is a Langford KR2S extended 14 inches with AS5046 Airfoils. I
bought the Wix kit when I started so most everything is there to finish the
Airframe plywood, both mahogany and birch spruce for outer wing spars foam
ETC. Currently she is in the boat stage with completed tail section. I have
also fabricated much of the control assemblies bell cranks as well as the
WAF which were CNC cut at a local shop. Landing gear attach fittings also
CNC cut and many many other items , to much to list here. I am keeping my 3
corvair cores for use in my future LSA homebuilt. All the parts and
assemblies are here at my shop in Cameron SC, if you would like to look at
them . I can also send any pictures you would like to see if you contact me
off list. I will not separate these parts, mainly because I will have to
remove a wall in my back room to get her out, so it's all or nothing. The
workmanship is excellent this would give someone a huge head start in
building there KR for about the cost of the basic kit. I really hate to give
her up, but it's time to move on to something low and slow. 
 John Godwin

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KR> I would like to unsubscribe from the net and be able to resubscribe in 3 or 4 months.

[Larry Knox]

I still have all my KR@ and S stuff for sale and like the info on the net so
want to be able to use it later.  With this new replaced right shoulder I
cannot keep up with my internet and I'm not supposed to do anything
repetitive after I can use it again. la...@lebanair.com

KR> re:iFly 700

[Larry Knox]

I've heard nothing but good but be careful of buying outside of a dealer
because of warrantee and upgrades issues. The yoke mount and post for the
Anywhere map will fit the ball on the 700 if you want a yoke mount.
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of rdrace...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> re:iFly 700

Anybody out there have anything bad to say about these systems?

Todd Thelin
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KR> Turbo vs NA - fuel efficiency

[Larry Knox]

Andy, I printed and filed this information. It is a great research paper and 
has a value to a lot of people. Thanks, la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net 
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Andy Mckevitz
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:11 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Turbo vs NA - fuel efficiency

I've enjoyed the posts.  This is my .02 when it comes
to cost-benefit and efficiency. 



It occurred to me one day when I had the choice of flying
east one beautiful day when I had no wind up to 15k' [okay, maybe 3kts] for a
200nm trip in my C-150.  No one ever taught what altitude to fly for best
efficiency, government this, regs that, etc...  What was the best alt from
gnd-effect [not possible for the obvious terrain changes] to 15k'?  Yes,
my 150 would make it!  Whats the best fuel consumption altitude?  I
won't address speed for this particular post as it?s a fine line to opening up
different discussion altogether.  I'll just post you what I have done as
it helps answer to turbo, or not to turbo.   

I have access to a few planes POH's:  my C-150, a twin
comanche, a turbo twin comanche [normalized only], C-210 [turbo >35in
single], and a good ole gas-drunk piper apache! 



I felt  crazy plotting these data because no one can
answer my question as to what alt. and speed to fly at to earn the most MPG in
a no wind environment and explain why.  Is climbing for the TAS benefit
worth it?  in short, no.  Turbo is closer to fuel saving however, and
this surprised me. 



Over the next probably 20hrs of flight planning scenarios
[excited new pilot has this energy], I planned my own trip I faced that day
with each plane, and again for flights at 1k,3k, up to ceiling, and svc.
ceiling.  Parabolic ascents, descents, jet-type ascent/descent profiles,
etc.  After that, I planned full fuel tank burn for each plane.
 Aside from the predicted ground effect winning efficiency in all cases, I
found its best to stay as low as possible because the fuel spent climbing does
not earn its keep for the TAS payoff when climbing to altitude for a no wind
condition.  I tried different climb speeds, etc to cover all angles. 
I learned much in the process.  Two upsets though:  The turbo planes
[both normalized and boosted] climbing to their high cruise altitude provided
to be equally efficient as the NA planes that didn't climb.  They were in
turn faster in the process as well.  the turbo's payoff occurs when the
tanks are fully used because its more time spent at altitude benefiting from
the TAS gain.  Now does fuel price offset the price of the turbo? 
That depends on how much the pilots time is worth.  



My opinion, is that the cost of the turbo, certified and
experimental application is not worth the benefit regarding effieciency. 
On the other hand, if you live on an ocean island would you want a turbo? 
What if you lived in the Rocky mountains?  Envrionment and safety can
persuade otherwise and other people have posted positives and negatives I won't
repeat here.  At Oshkosh last year, I talked to a guy named Jer from
Colorado in the Cessna Pilots Assoc. I flew in with that is a CFII, and
specializes in mountain flying instruction.  If you look him up, you
didn't hear he was an 'old guy' from me :)  He also does not desire turbos
and this lead to an interesting conversation of mountain flying in normally
aspirated planes because I'm near the smoky mountains.  Contact me and
I'll flip you his email from his biz card if you care to share a conversation
like I did. 



My twin turbo Nissan 300zx is just an experience everyone
should enjoy.  I do like turbos.  They are fun!  I like the
power if the engine can withstand it like the car can.  Having a turbo on
a twin and losing an engine in Idaho is better than crashing because single
engine performance is not what the poh says when you need it most.  Seeing
a kr with a turbo definitely is sophisticated, complicated and something to
be proud of because it does have its element to once again, outperform a
certified plane in all regimes.  Cost-benefit?  eh, when it all comes
down to it, as an airport manager, I see too many obstacles to general aviation
to warrant making a plane that takes great sunset pictures endure less flying
time because a more complex system requires more maintenance and threatens the
pilot with added cost and time.   



Get em flying! 

Andy  



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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Larry Knox]

Ya, and the air is dry and the people friendly and a damn site fewer of
them. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of oceanmanus
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:08 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Glad to hear your OK. You need to move your operation to North Texas where
the 
rent is cheap.

Joe Cygan




From: I FLY KRs 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:23:56 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Those pics pretty well sum up my past couple weeks.  The large hangars
midfield in the bottom of the horse shoe is where we were located.  We ended
up with about 9' of water.  I received the call about 1:30 in the afternoon.
After renting two 26' u-haul trucks and a flatbed, we worked until about
4:30 in the morning getting as much as we could.  Both trucks were packed to
the gills, KR-1 put on the flatbed, and the Clausing lathe and Bridgeport
mill made it out.  All the molds, much tooling and supplies, as well as 3
airframes remained.  We came back a couple hours later and were turned away
as water was already in our hangar.  

I was able to walk in today.  About 2 - 3 inches of muck and mud remains.
The KR-100, the new KR-2S fuselage, and a few molds, including a set of
center section skins that are ready to be pulled from the molds were
untouched by water.  The new design light sport airframe we were building is
shot so we will have to start over and probably will not make it to
Sun-N-Fun with it like we had hoped.  Most of the remaining mold were in the
water but fortunately look like they will clean up well.  There were a few
tools and parts I thought had made it into the truck that were found in
various places of the hangar.  I had a new Bosch drill/ driver that
apparently was left on one of our fabrication tables.  Somehow it escaped
unscathed and works perfect.  It seems that particular table floated and
never submerged.  Our fuselage table and glass cutting table weren't so
lucky.  We will have to build new ones.

We had been diligently working on the final plugs/ molds for the new AS-5046
airfoil, center section, and 009 tail group. I am happy to say those were
all loaded and safely stowed away in the U-hauls.  

This is the second major flood in 5 years at Corona.  The past couple years
we had the threat of flood but it never happened.  The Army Corps of
Engineers had modified Prado Dam so many of us thought the flooding issue
had been finally resolved so there was a false sense of security with most
of us I think.  Now that we are producing parts and kits for the KR, as a
company we cannot afford this type of damage or losses.  Just the move so
far has cost us about $3500 and that does not include losses from parts/
machinery, or tooling.  I figure the total hit will fall around $25k.  In
light of all this we have relocated our facility to Chino (CNO), which is
about another 10 minute drive.  Corona was about a 30 minute drive for us
from home so now we are looking at least 40 minutes depending on traffic.
There is a lot of activity at Chino and several businesses that will be
beneficial to have access to.  While I prefer Corona overall Chino is by the
far the best choice from a business standpoint. 

The hangar is a bit smaller at the new location than what we had at Corona
but we are still planning a build out with a classroom/ pilot lounge with a
full bath and kitchenette for events or builder workshops.  Once we are
built out we will have a Saturday morning breakfast club for those
interested in building their first few parts with factory support. New
builders will be able to gain some hands on experience and build confidence
to complete their projects.  If any of you are ever in the area, feel free
to stop in.  It is always best to give us a call so we know to expect you.

Regards,

Steve Glover 




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KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

[Larry Knox]

Steve , so sorry about the flood. Starting a business is a tough proposition
and you sure don't need that on top of it. I didn't realize you were in our
part of the USofA. Even though I have to sell my KRs we will make sure and
stop as we go thru this winter (hopefully) and see you location and
projects. 
We have been thru there several times in the past 2 years and gives us
another destination. Again, sorry, la...@lebanair.com 
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Tim
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:46 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Any word on NVaero after airport flood?

Same from the North Steve...Aussie's are describing there present 
flooding Downunder as Biblical

CldLk-Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "phillip matheson" 
Steve

Sorry to hear of your water damage and interruption to your business.

All the best from down under.



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KR> RE: Panel Layouts

[Larry Knox]

Dynon is beautiful but never go with Grand Rapids unless you love the
challenge of outrageous complexity and the stress when it quits when you
need it the most. The KR I have for sale has a beautiful panel including a 3
axis auto pilot but unless you want all that stuff the Dynon is a
wonderfully simple way to go. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Robert7721
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:33 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> RE: Panel Layouts


Craig,

Just a suggetion but the Dynon really gives you everthing you would need for
VFR + with the attitude indicator. Keep it simple. 
For backup, you can use a GPS for altitude, direction and ground speed. 

Now that I have a D6 in my KR2S, and if I had to do it all over, I would
just have use only a D6 in the 1st place. Room it pretty scarce in a KR
panel.
I also love the attitude indicator. Never knew this untill I started flying
as much as I do now and get close to a cloud every now and then.

Thanks,

Rob 
N1852Z

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:49:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Craig Williams 
Subject: KR> Panel layouts
To: kr...@mylist.net
Message-ID: <892900.50416...@web113414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Been tinkering with a new old style panel design and I have 3 versions so
far.  
I tried to stay with the standard T configuration but I have room to move
and 
mix.  My thinking right now is to make this main panel all flight 
instrumentation and put the engine and nav displays to the sides.  Nav CRT
on 
left and eng steam gauges on right.  Take a look and I sure would like to
get 
your thoughts on panel layouts.   

http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver1.jpg
http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver2.jpg
http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/mynewpanel_ver3.jpg


Thanks
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com


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KR> website change, sunsets

[Larry Knox]

Sorry I didn't notice this was on the KRnet and thought Mike was looking at
some pictures Tebo had on our Web. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mike Taglieri
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:16 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> website change, sunsets

Some of these pictures are amazing, but the 10/25/10 one looks like you're 
flying VFR on top at night (or will be very soon).  If so, how do you get 
home, or do you fly IFR?

Mike Taglieri  miket--...@juno.com

  Everyone has his reasons.
   - Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"



- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" ; "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: KR> website change, sunsets


> After fifteen years, I've ditched hiwaay.net (named after our local TV 
> station WAAY from which it was spun off), for reasons that raise my blood 
> pressure unnecessarily to discuss further.  For a fraction of the price, 
> I'm now hosting www.N56ML.com, www.KRnet.com, and several others at 
> www.Godaddy.com, which is where I've had several of them for years now.
>
> I flew for maybe a half hour today (the days are way too short, and work 
> is way too busy), and got two pretty decent sunset pictures.  They're at 
> the top of http://www.n56ml.com/sunsets/ ...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
>
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KR> website change, sunsets

[Larry Knox]

If you are leaving our valley you have to find a hole and the rest of the
world is usually clear. If you want back in you have to ask the lord for a
special favor like another hole or a receding hairline along the mountains.
My IFR is roads, rivers and railroads if your current IFRR. We went up thru
a hole this summer on our way to CO over on the west side of the valley, we
are on the east side, and the whole valley bank to bank was totally obscured
in big of beautiful white blanket, as beautiful as I've ever seen after my
departure from Antioch CA in the spring of 62 after waiting 2 months for the
hole, again on my way to CO. Larry  

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mike Taglieri
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:16 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> website change, sunsets

Some of these pictures are amazing, but the 10/25/10 one looks like you're 
flying VFR on top at night (or will be very soon).  If so, how do you get 
home, or do you fly IFR?

Mike Taglieri  miket--...@juno.com

  Everyone has his reasons.
   - Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"



- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" ; "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: KR> website change, sunsets


> After fifteen years, I've ditched hiwaay.net (named after our local TV 
> station WAAY from which it was spun off), for reasons that raise my blood 
> pressure unnecessarily to discuss further.  For a fraction of the price, 
> I'm now hosting www.N56ML.com, www.KRnet.com, and several others at 
> www.Godaddy.com, which is where I've had several of them for years now.
>
> I flew for maybe a half hour today (the days are way too short, and work 
> is way too busy), and got two pretty decent sunset pictures.  They're at 
> the top of http://www.n56ml.com/sunsets/ ...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
>
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KR> (no subject)

[Larry Knox]

Tom, check mine out at www.lebanair.com .I would consider it about 90 or a
little above. It has a reg. # but I can't work on it anymore as I finally
finished off my right shoulder and they can't fix it. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Stovall
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:52 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> (no subject)

Good am. I had a kr-2 that I built to sitting on gear with engine. Some one
came by and made offer I couldnt refuse. So I guess they got credit for
building it. 
  Now I would like to buy a very nice KR-2s flying or at least at about 90%.
Have a great day.  PS:   I have a very nice Musketeer that I intend to sell
or trade If I find nice KR.
 
  Tom



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KR> Elevator?

[Larry Knox]

I sold the gear and the best rudder pedal set up as well as the RR canopy
and frame. I still has wing spars and a set of wings, some control rods and
stick set up a canopy. I don't want to peacemeal but if you're interested in
several things maybe. Larry

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Craig
Williams
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:35 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator?

I think this is his list

http://www.lebanair.com/adpics/krparts/index.html



--- On Sun, 12/19/10, Jose Fuentes  wrote:

> From: Jose Fuentes 
> Subject: Re: KR> Elevator?
> To: "KRnet" 
> Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 1:27 PM
> I am in Tallahassee, FL
> 
> I'm sure you seen my landing gear and other item requests,
> when you say you
> have a bunch of stuff, is it just mainly fueslege stuff?
> 
> Have a list?
> 





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KR> Elevator?

[Larry Knox]

I sold the landing gear and the rudder pedal set up. I have some of the
control stick stuff rod stuff, another set up for rudder pedals that are not
very complete. Otherwise it is fuselage and wing stuff plus a set of built
wings.Larry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Jose Fuentes
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:27 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Elevator?

I am in Tallahassee, FL

I'm sure you seen my landing gear and other item requests, when you say you
have a bunch of stuff, is it just mainly fueslege stuff?

Have a list?

Joe

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Larry Knox <la...@lebanair.com> wrote:

> Joe, where are you located. I have a shop full of KR2 stuff and nobody
> seems
> to want to pay are reasonable price for it and the shipping seems to
> destroy
> it. I have a KR2 boat that has a completed elevator on it and its nice, if
> we can get it to you without the freight crashing it. la...@lebanair.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Jose Fuentes
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Elevator?
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Was wondering if anyone had a complete elevator laying around from a
junked
> project that was in good shape?
>
> The project I took over has half the elevator missing, I've debated with
> myself on either rebuilding it or maybe if I'm lucky I can just buy one
> from
> a crashed plane or something?
>
> Hence this email.
>
> just so the two sides match, I'll want the whole elevator.
>
> Thanks and look forward to any replies.
>
> Joe
>
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KR> fuel system fittings

[Larry Knox]

The right hose and AN fitting. They are not that expensive and easy to use,
safe and why doesn't everyone use them. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Donald
Greer
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:36 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> fuel system fittings

Dene,

I believe that the only flexible hoses which will get the nod from  
your inspector are the MS28741 series rubber hose assemblies.  These  
hoses are rated for use both inside and outside of fuel tanks and,  
unlike a single barb with band clamp, have a threaded barb which  
engages the inside of the hose and a threaded collar which engages the  
outside of the hose to 'clamp' the hose to the barb (note - if you  
have not seen them before, they are not flare fittings).

As others have noted, flexible lines are heavier then rigid lines, but  
they do have their place.  Specific examples of usage would be input  
lines for pressure transducers or carburetors and output lines for  
fuel pumps, where flexing caused by changing pressure or vibration  
from pump/engine operation would have a detrimental effect on rigid  
lines over time.

For aircraft applications, I absolutely agree with the opposition of  
others to the single barbed connections.  This is one of those aspects  
of aircraft construction where I believe that one cannot compromise  
safety for the sake of saving a couple of dollars.

My two-cents worth,

Don Greer
Belleville, Ontario


On 18-Dec-10, at 5:38 AM, Dene Collett wrote:

> Guys
> I know this is a contraversal and sometimes touchy subject but I  
> need some clarity.
> There is widespread condemnation of the practise of using barbed  
> fittings and hose clamps in an aircraft's fuel system plumbing.  
> Could somebody in the know please tell me why this is so. I can't  
> think of any reason why using a good quality reinforced "rubber"  
> hose with fire sleeve over it (forward of the firewall) would be in  
> any way inferior to using aluminuim piping and AN fittings. In the  
> event of a mishap and things move around, I can't see how the solid  
> installation will be superior to the rubber hose as it will not have  
> near as much flexibility to absorb the movement. I would imagine  
> that an aluminuim pipe would be much more prone to cracking and  
> leaking when kinked.
>
> Over here the practise of using barbed fittings and flexible hose is  
> almost universal unless you are assembling a RV kit which comes with  
> all the appropriate AN fittings.
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa
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KR> Friday off topic; GPS Software

[Larry Knox]

We sell the Anywhere map and the Pro has the updatable charts on it. It is
north up or track up and is a beautiful and easy to use GPS. The standard or
the pro is a reasonable 6 to 700$ unit that is easy to use moving map GPS.
We also have an Apple IPad that is a marvel with the big screen and the
unbelievable easy to use moving map chart system with 40$ yr update charts
but it is north up only plus it does not give you running mileage or time on
your screen. I still fly with my anywhere map standard as it is so simple an
all that is needed. I also have XM weather on it and so simple to use. I
have a complete 496 Garmin set up with XM weather that I will sell very
reasonable as I dislike the complex damn thing. I have the yoke mounts,
several, and the gismo panel mounts 2 as well as the XM antenna, in house
charger and 12 volt plugins. la...@lebanair.com 
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:14 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Friday off topic; GPS Software

The only thing I did not like is that the map does noy rotate to match your 
direction of travel as does the Garmin. I also fly the Garmin and love it. I

also have all the sectionals on my laptop which hooks up to my GPS and gives

me a huge moving map display but it does not rotate to follow direction of 
travel either. You can put all the sectionals on your laptop for about $30 
but they are not updateable.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

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From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Friday off topic; GPS Software




I have been looking at that same system and thinking it is a good buy for 
what it does. A G armin 296 is the only other moving map that I have used. 
If you have ever used one of the Garmins let me know how it compares. I 
watched the video and have read some of the website and don't remember 
seeing terrain warnings. I'm sure there are other features that need to be 
compared but the Adventure Pilots big screen and touch screen icons are a 
plus. Let us know the pros and cons once you have some experience behind it.

Jack Cooper

Chuckey TN.


- Original Message - 
From: airgu...@comcast.net
To: "KRnet Posting" 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 3:10:36 PM
Subject: KR> Friday off topic; GPS Software



I have purchased new GPS computer at http://ifly.adventurepilot.com/ . For 
$499 plus $69 for chart updates for a year, it's a deal. To have a large 
screen is heaven.


Paul OReilly
KR2 Stretched
N7970K
Derry, NH
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KR> Recommended Epoxy?

[Larry Knox]

Joe, I have a partly built KR2S and a KR2 I think I have a set of plans with
both. I will look and see if I do. la...@lebanair.com 

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Of Jose Fuentes
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:55 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Recommended Epoxy?

I'm looking at what I need to do to get the wings put together for the KR I
got, I got the wing skins and ribs and Spars, so it seems it would be a
simple process.

I still need to buy a set of plans, maybe some of you have an old set??

What has been the most recommended epoxy for this purpose?

Joe

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KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

[Larry Knox]

Sorry intended to send it directly to Dan.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of David Rayburn
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:40 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

I have a KR1 that has the same stretch as the KR2S in boat stage for
sale. Foam and fiberglass, closed spars with second inspection done,
And some extras.  You won't find better workmanship on any other
project.  You may be able to get it real cheap.

Dave 314 971 3433  cell call anytime,  Early or late.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Dan Morehouse  wrote:
> Hello :-)
>
> I'm considering building a KR-1, -2, or -2S. I'll be finishing up my plans
built
> Sonex over the next few (or several) months and am looking at building a
> composite airplane for my next project. I've almost no experience in
> fiberglass.
>
> It seems there are precious few KR1's and the stretched 2's are much more
> popular than the original shorter version. I prolly wouldn't like the KR1
as
> much as the -2 or -2S. Even though most of my flying would be short solos,
once
> in awhile I'd want the space for a passenger or baggage.
>
> That narrows it to the original vs. stretched 2. From the specs sheets, it
looks
> like the 2S is 18" longer with a wingspan that's 2' 4" longer. Chord must
be
> shorter, cuz the wing area goes only from 80 to 82. It says there's also
more
> headroom. Cockpit width is unchanged.
>
> I'm 5' 7", so certainly wouldn't need the extra leg room, but extra for
baggage
> might be nice. And I've read the KR2S isn't as pitch sensitive, which
certainly
> would appeal to me. Many have widened the cockpit a few inches, which I'd
prolly
> consider. If I'm gonna have a 2 seater, it would be nice to have the room.
I'd
> like to hear the pros and cons of the 2 vs 2S, including any other mods.
>
> I see that NVAero sells parts and kits. ACS doesn't show much except for a
> Spruce kit. Wicks lists more kits that are itemized. Is there a bill of
> materials somewhere for these planes? If not, then are the Wicks lists
accurate?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

[Larry Knox]

Dan, I have a hanger full of Kr2's and everybody wants them for nothing with
free delivered it seems. I don't want to sell them piecemeal as it is almost
impossible to ship anything without it getting destroyed in the mail. I have
an almost completed KR2S that was supposed to be bolt the wings on and fly
it. I have as complete a kit as you will ever see for a KR2S with engine,
minus prop and instruments.  And I have a Kr2 boat that has some extra's. I
lost my right shoulder, for it looks like the last time trying to prop an
airplane and they say there is no fix for it. I am hoping for some patch as
I had pretty good use of it before but if I get enough to fly my plane I
have now it will be used only for that for as long as I can. I have a motor
home and a 22 ft enclosed van trailer and love to travel. We will deliver
anywhere in the US cheap. Check out the stuff on www.lebanair.com or
la...@lebanair.com Let me know if you want more pictures and I am open to
any reasonable offer for a bunch of stuff.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of David Rayburn
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:40 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

I have a KR1 that has the same stretch as the KR2S in boat stage for
sale. Foam and fiberglass, closed spars with second inspection done,
And some extras.  You won't find better workmanship on any other
project.  You may be able to get it real cheap.

Dave 314 971 3433  cell call anytime,  Early or late.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Dan Morehouse  wrote:
> Hello :-)
>
> I'm considering building a KR-1, -2, or -2S. I'll be finishing up my plans
built
> Sonex over the next few (or several) months and am looking at building a
> composite airplane for my next project. I've almost no experience in
> fiberglass.
>
> It seems there are precious few KR1's and the stretched 2's are much more
> popular than the original shorter version. I prolly wouldn't like the KR1
as
> much as the -2 or -2S. Even though most of my flying would be short solos,
once
> in awhile I'd want the space for a passenger or baggage.
>
> That narrows it to the original vs. stretched 2. From the specs sheets, it
looks
> like the 2S is 18" longer with a wingspan that's 2' 4" longer. Chord must
be
> shorter, cuz the wing area goes only from 80 to 82. It says there's also
more
> headroom. Cockpit width is unchanged.
>
> I'm 5' 7", so certainly wouldn't need the extra leg room, but extra for
baggage
> might be nice. And I've read the KR2S isn't as pitch sensitive, which
certainly
> would appeal to me. Many have widened the cockpit a few inches, which I'd
prolly
> consider. If I'm gonna have a 2 seater, it would be nice to have the room.
I'd
> like to hear the pros and cons of the 2 vs 2S, including any other mods.
>
> I see that NVAero sells parts and kits. ACS doesn't show much except for a
> Spruce kit. Wicks lists more kits that are itemized. Is there a bill of
> materials somewhere for these planes? If not, then are the Wicks lists
accurate?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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KR> Elevator?

[Larry Knox]

Joe, where are you located. I have a shop full of KR2 stuff and nobody seems
to want to pay are reasonable price for it and the shipping seems to destroy
it. I have a KR2 boat that has a completed elevator on it and its nice, if
we can get it to you without the freight crashing it. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Jose Fuentes
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Elevator?

Hi everyone,

Was wondering if anyone had a complete elevator laying around from a junked
project that was in good shape?

The project I took over has half the elevator missing, I've debated with
myself on either rebuilding it or maybe if I'm lucky I can just buy one from
a crashed plane or something?

Hence this email.

just so the two sides match, I'll want the whole elevator.

Thanks and look forward to any replies.

Joe

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KR> ethanol

[Larry Knox]

Thanks, Joe I hope everyone in aviation and the boating industry signs it.
la...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:20 AM
To: corvaircr...@mylist.net; kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ethanol

 Hey Guys,I don't usually foreword stuff  but this petition looks real
enough to me concerning the future introduction of ethanol into the fuel
supplies. I signed it and gave reason .Joe Horton
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-pure-gas/ 

Mortgage Rates Hit 2.67%!
If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ce14fede3e7d2061abst04duc
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KR> tailwheel question

[Larry Knox]

If you had ever flown a tailwheel with steering and had both springs come
off when you are landing you would have n question of whether you need them
or not. Get a good castering steerable tailwheel and you will be glad you
did. la...@lebanair.com Yes the previous recommended Tailwheel and the place
to get it is definitely the best.

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:16 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> tailwheel question

I think it should be steerable
Joe Weber
- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: KR> tailwheel question




Does the tailwheel have to be steerable or can a full caster wheel be used 
with differential braking?

Ordered my plans and wing ribs this morning. Guess that will make me 
official.


Thanks
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com




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KR> Fw: KR-1 kit for sale.

[Larry Knox]

I have decided to start on a backcountry airplane and am going out of the
KR2 business. I have a KR2 partly built, a KR2S partly built with enough
parts to finish including a Revmaster engine, except prop and an almost
complete KR2S with a New built WW Corvair that is beautiful and open to all
reasonable offers on any or all. I will not individually part it, I don't
want anything left over. It is on our web at www.lebanair.com  thanks,
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:32 PM
To: KR Net
Subject: KR> Fw: KR-1 kit for sale.

The e-mails below were sent to me to pass on to the Net. I also have several

photos if you are interested in purchasing. Everything they have is new in 
the box. They are asking for an offer to be made.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com





- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Fw: KR-1 kit


> Mark,
> A friend of mine at Anoka-Blaine Airport in MN says their EAA chapter is
> cleaning out their hanger.  If any of this is of interest to you or any of
> your KR friends, give Paul Montgomery a call.  His number/email is at the
> bottom.
>
> Jim Burns
>
>
> Subject: KR-1 kit
>
>
>> Any other of youz guyz who know a wood plane builder looking for a fun
>> sporty project? Our EAA Chapter is a 501(c)3 Corp, so they makes a
>> donation and some wood will magically appear at their domicile. No tax
>> benefit for buying it straight up from our chapter. Um, we have NO clue
>> what it's worth. >
>> Here's the KR-1 pics Jim. I was told it was a KR-1 anyway.
>>
>> 1) http://www.fly-kr.com/kr1.htm
>> KR-1 specs
>>
>> 2) http://www.fly-kr.com/index.html
>> KR page
>>
>> 3) http://www.krnet.org/krs/kr100/
>> Reno Racer
>>
>> 4) http://www.krnet.org/
>> all things KR
>>
>> Long crate is approx 14 feet.
>> It's not as tall or wide as I remembered.
>>
>> The veneer crate is approx 4x4. Assuming it's veneer sheets in there?
>>
>> There's more (long) KR-1 wood that the pics didn't turn out. The pieces
>> fill a church table in the backroom. Long 6' (or longer) tapered pieces
>> wrapped together with similar strips. A few of those bunches. There's
>> bunches of wing ribs too.
>>
>> Thanks >
>>
>> Paul Montgomery
>> (300) 300-6931
>> landof10kla...@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
> 



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KR> Wheel Pants Landing Lights

[Larry Knox]

Years ago I did this with pants on my champ that I operated mostly off dirt
and gravel. It made it until the first light rain in CO and the mud picked
up a rock and lodged it into the liner and locked the wheel up. I ate up a
little sage brush and abandoned the pretty and stuck with the mud throwing,
until I could build some racing fenders. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Teate, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Wheel Pants Landing Lights

"I guess I'm looking for pros and cons more than anything."

The most abused components on airplanes are tires and wheel pants. Even if
you don't operate off grass or dirt strips they just take a beating
especially if they are in the prop wash which basically means sand blasted.
Already mentioned weight and vibration issues are real considerations. To
minimize the ingestion and accumulation of mud/ice/debris I took some 1/4"
clark foam and glassed in a bulkhead into each half of my wheel pant around
the tire. This also adds a lot of stiffness to the pants instead of having
to make them with multiple layers of glass to attain the same strength.

Stephen Teate
Composite Cooling Solutions, L.P.
4150 International Plaza, Suite 500
Fort Worth, Texas 76109
817-708-9140



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KR> welding aluminum

[Larry Knox]

I bought a new one a few years ago and never had enough need for it to take
the time to learn how to use it. If you are interested and I can make sure I
have everything in the case I will make a real deal on it.
la...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
cruz...@frontiernet.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:57 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum



Craig, 

   I purchased the Henrob torch several years ago. It welds 4130 tube quite
well. Of course you have to practice on some small pieces before you go and
weld on and engine mount or push pull rods. I use 1/8" 4130 rod. It works
very well on auto body panels too. The small concentrated plume  burns with
just 4 psi set for oxygen .  Check out Aircraft Spruce. they sell it
there.   Joe Cruz 

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/weldingtorch.php 



Tig is nice but the equipment to do it is expensive so I would have to pay
to all my parts made.  With gas I have all the equipment and as I build I
can make changes or totally redesign a part as necessary.  

--- On Tue, 11/2/10, Robert Wood  wrote: 

From: Robert Wood  
Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum 
To: "KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 3:29 AM 

How about TIG welding? Is that different? 
    Bob 
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Craig Williams wrote: 

> Well now that I have settled on a tank design ( http:// 
> www.kr2seafury.com/11.html ) I am looking at learning how to gas  
> weld the aluminum tubing as well as 4130.  I have found a class at  




       
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KR> Oshkosh 365 - Discussion Boards - Kenyan homebuilt -

[Larry Knox]

Amen

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Lee Van
Dyke
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:08 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 365 - Discussion Boards - Kenyan homebuilt -

I'm guessing it was porkopolis pig you saw, and yes I miss the old Eaa  
flyin of  days gone by.

Sent from my iPhone

>
>>   One of my best memories is of meeting a chap with a KR2
>> who flew into Oshkosh years ago.  It looked awful, still hade  
>> theglass
>> fabric showing all over through the obviously cheap paint job, he  
>> obviously
>> had functionality as a priority over pure beauty, but it FLEW HIM  
>> TO OSHKOSH
>> and did what he wanted it to do.  I sort of think this pursuit of  
>> pure
>> beauty and one-upsmanship is a great part of the reason that EAA  
>> has become
>> primarily a millionaires club, the 'little man' flying his cheap  
>> homemade
>> unsophisticated plane that he never intended to be a show-off piece  
>> has been
>> shoved far into the background and scorned..
>

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KR> Fw: Cubbing

[Larry Knox]

Mart, thank you for sharing this with us. I have it on my desk top. My wife
and I made a trip this year to eastern CO and south to Taos ,Los Cruses,
Tucson and thru Utah to home with very few pictures. Never again. Not
meaning the trip but no photo's. We had our 172 but we may do a trip in our
120 next year. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:37 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Fw: Cubbing

NetHeads,

John Backer forwarded this to me.  These pictures are awesome.  This does
it...I'm flying out West soon.  Check it out...


Subject: Fw: Cubbing


Truly  take the TIME to see all these wonderful photographs... from AZ
to NY.. from a Piper Cub. Great views of America from the air.  And I love
the captions!   Some of you will see your 'home states'.. (you Hawks and
Huskers!)  Very cool images!
Enjoy. Dick
http://www.vintageflying.com/page24.html














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KR> KR-2 . WANTED TO BUY

[Larry Knox]

Derek, I made the dicission before we left 3 weeks ago to sell my KR2S. I
have a lot of veriaty to choose from. If you want to do a lot of work or a
very small amount of work we can fix you up. We live in Lebanon OR and I
have property in Parachute CO so we travel thru there a lot. I have a
started Base model and enough parts to complete it minus a prop. I have a
very nice almost complete Corvair Powered one that needs a small amount of
work to fly. My wife don't like them and I have not enjoyed working on them
so I am looking for a 180/182/172/170/175 that I can upgrade to a back
country airplane. I can make you a real deal and include delivery if needed.
We are in Akron, CO now and headed for NM and AZ and then on home. We are
heading south as soon as the weather will let us out of here and will be
home in about a week depending on how much fun we run into. There is some
pictures on our Web at www.lebanair.com Tebo will be back in there on the
19th or 20th and he can send you some pictures of the one in the shop. Phone
is 541-258-5029. Derek King is our Mech. Flight instructor and can tell you
about it as well as Doug our Mech. That helped me upgrade the engine to the
Nitride crank and the 5th bearing with a complete new internal package. My
cell phone is 541-405-5911. And can return a call when on the ground.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Derek Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:26 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> KR-2 . WANTED TO BUY

I didn't expect my add to end up on the list but OK.  I am easiest to reach
by E-Mail.  And would like to find one somewhere in the western US, unless
it is flying.

Thanks,

Derek Lewis
-- Original Message --
From: "Tim" 
To: "KRnet" 
Subject: KR> KR-2 . WANTED TO BUY
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:00:29 -0600

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KR-2 . WANTED TO BUY . I want to buy a low priced, quality Tri-gear KR-2 or
KR-2s. Either a project of a flying plane. . Contact Derek Lewis, End User -
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2010 . Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This Ad to a
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KR> hats off to Mark Langford

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Mark, it's fun to be able to swell your chest a little and say "yap
that was one of our" and to have the opportunity to be a very small part of
it from clear over here on the West Coast. Hope next year there will be more
and possibly be there with our KR. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:02 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> hats off to Mark Langford

John Davison wrote:

> Congrats to Mark.  I was wondering how much was the entry fee?

$275, but most of that's been taken care of by contributions from 
KRnetHeads.

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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KR> HELP!!!

[Larry Knox]

We can help here with a C120, pilot layover W/ bath and a number of Courtesy
car option but you have to make a fun trip to beautiful Lebanon OR.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of R. Lee Jarvis
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:54 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> HELP!!!

I can help you Glenn, but I'm in Lakeland, FL.

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn Martin" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: KR> HELP!!!


> Alright Guys. I have my PPL, but now I need to complete my tailwheel 
> endorsement. I have 7 hours in a Cessna 140, but couldnt get the 
> endorsment because I didnt have the PPL yet (at the time). The 
> Instructor can no longer complete the training due to medical reasons. I 
> am down here in Biloxi MS. Can anyone help me? I need instruction and 
> plane rental for it. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Glenn Martin
> KR2 N1333A ( in progress)
> Biloxi, MS
> rep...@martekmisasissippi.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Update

[Larry Knox]

Good luck and sympathies for your Disease, I haven't heard of any cure.
la...@lebanair.com  

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:52 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Update

I have been fighting my new brakes, getting them properly "bled".  For some
reason, they don't pump up from the bottom like the Rosenhan did.  PS: I
have a full set of Rosenhan (Matco) wheels, brakes, axles, and spacers for
the Diehl gear, for sale OFF NET.



So, knowing that I am going to make the forward deck removable, and move the
fuel to the wings, I decided to bite the bullet and "git er done".  Today, I
cut off the old deck and it appears that I am going to have to cut the tank
to get it out.  This tank has a Princeton Probe fuel sender, and all the
stuff that a header tank needs, and will go to some lucky builder, cheap,
when I get it out.



The next step is to remove the wings and cut them open , once I get the new
tanks built.  The plan is to fly to the Gathering on the VW, with new fuel
tanks, and change it out for the Corvair, soon after I get back, in hopes of
flying to the Corvair college in November, on Corvair power.  So, needless
to say, I will have a complete 2276 VW with all the trimmings, and I mean
ALL, from in front of the firewall, to the tip of the spinner, with very few
exceptions.  As good as this engine is running now, if I did not already
have the Corvair, I would just keep on flying it as I am not looking forward
to all this work in the 95 degree weather that we will have between now and
Gathering time.



So, I am sorry to say that, the time for building has begun again.  I must
be a sick puppy.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39







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KR> Wing gap cover screws ?

[Larry Knox]

I'm having my spacers machined now as I no longer have my equip. and the nut
plates built. I'm going this way so I can remove my wings in a short time
and load my plane to haul it south for the winter. I'm having the spacers
machined with an ear on them so I can install them with a rivet so they
can't come out. This is my own plan so if you find something that works good
please post it. I Don't know how to post pictures or all this stuff you guys
do with these damn computers and as slow as I learn anymore I don't think
I'll live long enough to figure it out. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:48 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Wing gap cover screws ?

Mike Sylvester wrote:

> Hey Guys, It's a little slow on the net right now so I'll pose this 
> question. What do the wing gap cover screws screw into ? Do I need to put 
> wood blocks on the inside of the wing ? Looking at a few web sites, I 
> don't think that screw location has ever been address. Will small sheet 
> metal screws not pull out ?

My gap seals were (up until a couple of weeks ago) held on with a 
combination of double-sided tape and two #4 woods screws abouv 3/8" long on 
each seal.  One was in the bottom into the rear spar, and the other was at 
the trailing edge where top and bottom of the gap seal met.   That worked 
OK, but now that I'm trying to get the double-sided tape off, I can say that

I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy!  It takes about an hour per 
wing, is an exercise in futility, and has resulted in damaging some of the 
only real paint on my plane, the underside the stub wings.

I've been kicking myself that I didn't simply extend the stub wing surfaces 
out that extra inch and a half so attaching the wings left only an eighth 
inch gap or so, which could easily be filled by colored vinyl "electrical" 
tape.  I'm doing that right now, and it's really not that hard to do, even 
after the plane is built...assuming you haven't painted it yet!   The 
downside to a small gap is that you have less flexibility in manuevering the

wings around to line up the wing attach fittings.  But another thing I'm 
going to try to implement is nutplates and 4130 steel spacers on the main 
wing attach fittings so I'll only have four long 3/8" and four long 3/16" 
bolts to fool around with when removing and installing the wings.  I'm not 
sure why I care, since it's been 5 years since I had the wings off last, but

if nothing else it will help minimize the discontinuities in the outer 
wing/stub wing gap.  The aft fittings are easy to access...just drop the 
flaps and there they are, but the mains will require a hole the diameter of 
a socket.  The longer bolts and steel spacers will cost me some weight, but 
at this point I'm happy enough with my plane to expect no real degradation 
in performance by gaining another few ounces...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com



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KR>AirVenture Cup Race

[Larry Knox]

I'll do 25. Give me an address to send it to. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Ray Fuenzalida
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:41 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR>AirVenture Cup Race

Mark,
I'll do $25 as well.  Do us proud.
Ray
New Orleans

--- On Mon, 6/14/10, James M Brewer  wrote:


From: James M Brewer 
Subject: KR>AirVenture Cup Race
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:22 PM


I'm good for $25.if  Mark will go for it.
Jim Brewer 
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KR> FW: EAA 82 WINGS AND WHEELS FLY-IN

[Larry Knox]

Netter's, One day I will figure out how to post to the net but not today.
This would definitely be my destination if I was ready. 

This is my post to the Net.
 We are having our 2nd annual Strawberry Days Fly In- Drive In here
at Lebanon OR State S30 on the 5th and 6th with Antique Cars, Young Eagle
Flights (going for 100 This Year) Hot Dog, Hamburger Cook Out and shuttle
services to the Strawberry Festival and the Truck Tractor Pull. Our Parade
Entry will be our KR2S with the WW Corvair un-cowled  on a trailer with wing
and all and we will be handing out Free Tickets to all the Kids 8 to 17 For
their Young Eagle Rides in the Parade. Our KR made a splash at the downtown
business Expo last Month so should be a positive in the Parade. Any of you
guys locally please try to come by. la...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Pete Klapp
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:20 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net; pkengr
Subject: FW: KR> FW: EAA 82 WINGS AND WHEELS FLY-IN




> Subject: KR> FW: EAA 82 WINGS AND WHEELS FLY-IN

> > KR Netters,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > EAA 82 is having it's 4th Annual "WINGS AND WHEELS FLY-IN" on Saturday
and Sunday, June 5 & 6th at Barber Airport (2D1).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The field is located approximately three miles north of Alliance, Ohio
on State Route 225. There will be aircraft with automotive and alternative
engines - CORVAIRS AND VOLKSWAGENS on display. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There will be a pancake breakfast on Saturday and Sunday from 7 till 11
AM with lunch on Saturday from noon till 2 PM. This event is open to the
public.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There will be homebuilt aircraft ( KR-2S's, Pietenpols, an
Afford-a-Plane), PRA #19 (Rotorcraft Chapter) will have trikes and a
demonstrator, and Vintage and Antique aircraft (Waco 9, Fleet, Taylorcrafts)
on the field. There will be a fleet of some nicely restored Corvair cars on
display.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There will be several Corvair engines and a "Roy's Garage" Fifth Bearing
on display for those who are interested in using a Corvair in their project.
Roy Szarafinski of Roy's Garage WILL BE PRESENT to answer questions about
his bearing and will gladly check your ENGINE CASES AND CRANKS for proper
tolerances before you start an engine rebuild.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The fly-in hours will be Saturday... 7 AM - 4 PM and Sunday... 7 AM - 2
PM.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For more information, contact Ron Willett @ 330-314-0075 or me @
330-388-2074, and Forrest Barber (FBO) at WWW.BARBERAIRCRAFT.COM.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We can provide lodging for those who would be flying in for our event.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hope to see many KRnet faces present at our fly-in.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pete Klapp, building KR-2S, N729PK,
> > 
> > Canton, Ohio
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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KR> Beginning of Test Installation of the New Corvair Engine

[Larry Knox]

I ran mine with brass fittings and braided flex as the oil cooler is frame
mounted and I personally would never run a solid line in this kind of
installation. Just my preferences. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Matthew
Elder
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 9:37 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Beginning of Test Installation of the New Corvair Engine

On that subject, to those running any kind of 5th bearing, is there any
reason not to run an aluminum line from the bearing to the oil port? I know
most "aircraft" engines with prop governors run stainless lines.  A 3/8"
aluminum line has a rated burst pressure of 300 psi or so (and that's with a
2x factor of safety.)  The line on the 'vair is attached to the engine on
both ends, and adel clamped at various locations along the length, so I
can't imagine vibration/fatigue being an issue 

I'm thinking it's probably a good idea to run stainless, but just wanted to
see what those with experience have done.

Thoughts?

Matt




-Original Message-

Hi Dan,
The only thing I would suggest is putting stainless steel fittings in the
5th bearing if it is not and in the oil filter adapter that the 5th bearing
oil line is attached to. It may not be as critical on the Corvair engine as
compared to a Lycoming. 


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KR> VW engine cases ~~~ new vs. used

[Larry Knox]

If you have a suspected area you can buy Dye Penetrate in a bottle and brush
it on. Does a great job. We get ours from Aircraft Spruce but I'll bet you
can get it at NAPA. If you have trouble finding it let me Know we are deals
with Spruce and get a decent discount and I will send you a bottle.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of jtw...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:53 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Cc: crusaderra...@gmail.com
Subject: KR> VW engine cases ~~~ new vs. used

Unless  you want the rather considerable expense of thorough
 non-destructive testing ~ ~ ~ such as dye-penetrant  and
 Magna-Flux, maybe even X-ray &/or ultra-sound ~ ~ ~ unless  you really 
think you need any or all of those procedures, there is a rationale  to 
re-building a used case.  Old-timers refer to them as being "seasoned",
which I 
guess is similar to 'seasoning' a new cast iron  skillet.

If you  are comfortable with the absolute knowledge of the source of your 
used case and  know that the engine it came from was actually running OK the

last time it was  shut down, clean it up - immaculately! Then, visually 
examine it as closely as  you know how.  Ask for help:  there is nothing
like a 
second set of  eyeballs that may see something you missed.  Get out your 
best sets of  micrometers, bore-gauges and calipers and mike the bloody
thing; 
again, as  closely as you know how.

Heck,  even if you are going to trust a new case to keeping your rear-end 
in the air  you'll probably do all of the same inspection work, any way . .
. 
. . . . . 

I have  yet to fly a Vee-dub, but have rebuilt several of Dr.  Porche's 
beauties for automotive use.   Never once started  with a new case.  Even 
hopping-up a couple of them for off-road racing  and dune-bugging in The
Imperial 
Valley/Yuma desert areas, where/when we ran the  hell out of them in the 
very worst of environments, we NEVER had a failure  of an accepted &
inspected 
used case! 

Well,  that's not exactly true.  We did have one failure in a used case 
that we  had cleaned up, inspected and found acceptable.  We sent it out for

machine  shop work - boring & stroking, etc.  Even installed needle-bearing

mains on the crank.  Damned thing was a real work of art.   Unfortunately,we

did NOT re-check the machine shop's work as closely as we  should have . . .

. . . . Three cylinder/head hold-down bolts on one of the  cylinders pulled 
out of the case.  Nutz!



s/s  WxBY - ORL/MCO

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KR> One way trip

[Larry Knox]

Crap, Joe let us know what happened. la...@lebanair.com 

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Of joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:11 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net; corvaircr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> One way trip

Hey guys,
   I got to do a little checking on my engine tonight. I performed a leak
down test but I knew the result before I even tried as I could see the valve
seat turned sideways by shinning a flashlight in the sparkplug hole. I just
didn't know weather it was the intake or exhaust. Well it was the intake, I
could also see somesmall peces of metal laying down in the bottom of the
cylinder barrel.
So I will pull it apart to see what i have to do to fly again.
Joe Horton

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KR> KR KR2 parts for sale

[Larry Knox]

I still have about as complete a kit as possible for one KR2S and another
thru boat stage+ and other parts. I also have a Norton dual rotor rotary
"new" (a real aircraft engine not conversion) and now a new 2200 Jabiru
still in the crate. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of David Hartz
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:01 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR KR2 parts for sale

WHAT PARTS ARE AVAILABLE STILL.I AM IN NOVATO CALIF.
DAVE 415-505-7995

--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Daniel Root  wrote:

> From: Daniel Root 
> Subject: KR> KR KR2 parts for sale
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 8:11 PM
> LRJ wrote:  Just read an email
> of your list of 
> parts, and I am interested.  Can you tell me what
> state you live in (I am 
> in Florida) and what your best price is for everything on
> your list except the 
> engine.
> 
> These parts are in Stockton, California (KSCK)  I've
> posted pictures them at
> 
>
http://www5.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=1517074027/a=237794
7027_2377947027/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
> 
> If these parts must be shipped, the value to a prospective
> buyer back east, is less than for someone
> local.   As such, I'm not really too keen on
> setting prices. If  you see something you like, make an
> offer.  I'm pretty flexible.  BTW, my camera went
> dead while I was shutterbugging.  I have seven more
> pics in my phone which I'll post to the link when I figure
> out how to download them...
> 
> 
> 
>       
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KR> Landing Liights

[Larry Knox]

Daniel, we were at Calif. Power Systems a couple of months back and they had
a wonderful Led light in a flat taxi light and a round landing light that
was like 24$. The quality looked great and I am going to get some for my KR.
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Daniel Root
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 7:54 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Landing Liights

Some time ago, there was a discussion about landing lights.  Mark Langford's
site has a photo of his, which was a Lazer Blazer Ultimate driving light
from Walmart, or some such thing. With the advances in modern technology,
I'm wondering what is the latest and greatest these days, especially since I
went to Walmart, and couldn't find the Lazer Blazer...



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KR> Best Value Digital Scales???

[Larry Knox]

Joe, that's a tall order but we are dealers at the highest level with
Aircraft spruce where I think our Mec. got ours. They are very fine and do a
good job. I don't know what the cost without checkiung but we don't have to
pay freight anymore and get a good discount. If something nothing shows up
on the net as a reasonable solution I would get you a set at our cost and
send it at the best deal and you pay the best deal freight.
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Joe Walburn
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:38 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Best Value Digital Scales???

OK troops, I've done due diligence and scoped out the archives looking for 
info on the best bang for the buck on digital scales.  Nuttin' much there 
except for a reference to Office Depot/$30.00.  Question:  Does any soul out

there have a recommendation on a digital scale for ~ fifty bucks maybe more,

that will be accurate enough for our mixing purposes, and that will endure 
abuse by a fat cat and clumsy teenagers?  It's probably a tall order, but KR

builders chew nails where others suck cotton candy.

Thanks much,
Joe Walburn
feli...@frognet.net 


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KR> Aerocarb setting

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Joe. Just can't deal with something that should be so simple (C85,
O200) to be so complex. I think I will go with an Ellison right now and have
it over with. Larry

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:44 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net; corvaircr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Aerocarb setting

Larry,
   sorry i didn't answer sooner, I missed the fact that you were talking
about an Areo carb.  I think that a little information might be needed but
I'll take a shot at it. I am  thinking that you  have a 35mm carb on a 2700
cc corvair? i any case the success of anything but the #3 needle has been
elusive. Make the mark on it just like the instruction say where the flat
ends. This is the starting point for setting the needle depth in the slide.
I am working from memory so the instruction should be referred to to allow
for my dyslexia, I think the flat faces away from you when viewing from the
intake throat. Make sure that you have the mixture cut off set up by the
instructions also. Make sure you have your timing set on the engine at least
as accurate as you can for the start. That affects low end idle
tremendously. I left the stop nut for the throttle adjustment loose so that
I had a full range for starting and running. When I had the engine running i
then pulled the throttle out at slow increments until I reached what I
thought would be my low idle without it being rough (for me that is about
700-750 rpm)  At this point i redid timing dynamically to full static rpm
(again for me i am set up to 32 deg. advance at 2900 Rpm) At this point
started to adjust the mixture needle. I did not have a mixture gage at the
time and used a dwell/rpm to visibly see results as well as the sound of the
engine. I was making adjustments with the engine running (this is not for
everyone-let your personal safety be your guide) When I made an adjustment I
would run it up and down to make sure that it would return to the same rpm
and still idle smooth. The needle needs to make very small turns when you
are close to the results that your after. I made an adjustment this past
week for summer time temps and it was on the order of an 1/8 turn at a time.
I think that I have mine adjusted to the rich side of the original set
point. In the end I really was lucky I guess as the engine started the first
time and was able to run. The adjustments were not far from what the
instructions tell for set up. I have nearly 500 hours with the carb now. The
only thing is the slide type carbs will always favor a side of the engine
for rich and lean. maybe 100 deg from side to side. The solution for me was
to install a tornado directly behind the carb to swirl the mixture before
the split in the intake risers. 
Roy, I fell that you may be a little over optimistic about exhaust spans
with respect to the comment of 80 deg. span being a lot. I currently have my
alarm set at 170 deg. span and it occasionally goes off in full power climbs
and requires a slight mixture adjustment to settle it. But on the other end
of the spectrum I can get exhaust spans at altitude (7500 or higher) below
30 deg. At low altitudes 50 to 70 deg spans are common. A friend with a hot
Lance air (actually several of them) told me that 80 deg. span is the lowest
he has ever gotten to.
   Hope this helps a little.
Joe Horton,
Coopersburg, Pa.

 -- Forwarded Message --
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 06:59:17 -0500  

>Mark, I didn't get any response back on my Question about setting up and
>operating the posy type aerovee Carb on my Corvair. Are you running this
>Carb or know someone that does. Thanks, la...@lebanair.com





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KR> Aerocarb

[Larry Knox]

This is the direction I'm going. I can't deal with quirky stuff. Its new and
pretty and should make a good boat anchor on my little zodiac. Thanks,
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Randy Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:12 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Aerocarb

Go by you a zenith carb, Great plains sells them also shops that sell parts
for gas welders and generators sell them and be done with it. After 2 months
of messing around with mine I bought 1 from great plains and never looked
back. I had 3 Posa carbs 2 made good book ends., 1 I gave away.
--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210
<rodney.r.hall@navy.mil> wrote:


From: Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210 <rodney.r.hall@navy.mil>
Subject: RE: KR> Aerocarb
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 7:13 AM


I was just reading an article the other day in an old sport aviation
about setting up the posa. You might want to search the Sport Aviation
archives on www.eaa.org it seemed a very good article and apparently you
need to set up the high speed first then switch out the needles to find
the best overall idle and low speed operation. I think it was in a feb
82 sport aviation but I am not sure.

Rodney Hall 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Langford
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:04
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Aerocarb

Larry Knox wrote:

> Mark, I didn't get any response back on my Question about setting up 
> and operating the posy type aerovee Carb on my Corvair. Are you 
> running this Carb or know someone that does. Thanks, 
> la...@lebanair.com

Joe Horton is running an Aerocarb.  I'm sure he'll chime in when he gets
a chance, but basically it does work and once properly adjusted, tends
to stay that way.  I do know that they don't appreciate fuel pump
pressure, and prefer gravity feed instead.  There should be plenty of
info in the CorvAircraft archives (see
ttp://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp  ), using the keyword
"Aerocarb".

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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KR> 300 HOURS

[Larry Knox]

Mark, I didn't get any response back on my Question about setting up and
operating the posy type aerovee Carb on my Corvair. Are you running this
Carb or know someone that does. Thanks, la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:34 AM
To: KR Net; Corvair Net
Subject: KR> 300 HOURS

This morning I passed the 300 flight hour mark on my Corvair powered KR-2S.
What a ride it has been. 


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Divorce Result of Wing Attachment Fight

[Larry Knox]

I use the 2 stool method and the pointed pins and works good but would like
to see the tubing method.
My question: I fired my beautiful Corvair up on Friday for her first run and
what a thrill. I have a Posy  type Aerovee? carb. and a dual fuel system. A
manual engine pump and an electric fuel pump mounted as standalone systems
supplying fuel to the carb. where they both connect to a single fuel
pressure regulator that is mounted on the input into the carb. There is no
primer system and no choke system. When I would use the electric pump and
opened the throttle some it would run gas out on the ground until the engine
fired. I turned the elec. Off and it ran great and smooth as silk. Am I
going to need a primer or choke system and what kind of air induction
system. I still do not have a cowl and may just have to try to do something
with this mess I got with it. Thanks in advance, la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:13 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Divorce Result of Wing Attachment Fight

Yeah John

Put the pictures on a WEB page and if you cannot the email them to me
k...@bigpond.com and I'll put them in a web page for you.

Regards
Barry

-Original Message-
I have a male/female tubing that lines up the wing as you start the
connection.  A friend used it on his homebuilt and tell me it worked great.
I have two pictures to show if it's OK to post?

John Nordin



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KR> apology

[Larry Knox]

If you can't build of the KRnet you better just forget it.
la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dejan
Ninkovic
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> apology

Don't worry about it. I find most of the info in krnet very interesting to
read.
Still not able to start building.
Best regard
Denny

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:45 PM,  wrote:

> My apology to you.
> I inadvertently sent a message to you about 7:00 PM that  should have been
> addressed to Daniel Heath who is a KRnet member at <
_DanRH@Windstream.net_
> (mailto:da...@windstream.net)  >. I have since sent a reply to Daniel's
> inquiry.
>  You can ignore my email to you but it was as follows just in case you
were
> thinking of forwarding the reply and to wondering to whom. It is the one
> that read as follows:
>
> Daniel Heath,
>  Sounds like an instrument hookup perhaps?
>
> Parker Hannifin and Swagelox have a lot of fittings.
> A possible solution may be an elbow that has a male 1/4 inch flare fitting
> on one end and then flare a short 1/4 inch tube, attach with ferrule and a
> "B" nut and then slide a 1/4 inch inside diameter hose over the tube.
>  An aircraft instrument shop may have what you need.
>  I am guessing at your application but perhaps this may be of some help.
>   I did read your recommendations on replies directly to the inquirer and
> I messed up and apologize. Will be a bit more careful in the future.
>  Aaron Martin
>
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KR> test

[Larry Knox]

Tested OK here. la...@lebanair.com 

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Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:00 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> test




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KR> Need Help Cutting Spinner

[Larry Knox]

My experience and you may get more experience on the net do not use hear in
this application. Sand bag, been bag, rice bag it works. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Brad
Ankerstar
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 1:49 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Need Help Cutting Spinner



Maybe.  I didn't, but then I didn't think of it.  My fix may have been 
better if I had.

Brad Ankerstar, SW Ohio
N774A


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KR> Need Help Cutting Spinner

[Larry Knox]

This process set in a pile, sack of sand will do a great job. Have patience
and just work it out. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Brad Ankerstar
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 9:02 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Need Help Cutting Spinner

<>

I had a similar dent on the tip of my spinner.  I rounded the end of a 
hardwood dowel and tapped it from the inside, gently, with a hammer. 
Better, but not perfect.

Brad Ankerstar, SW Ohio
N774A


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KR> Off subject.

[Larry Knox]

This says it all. Its best to take back our country and make it work.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of BOB (ROBERT)
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:13 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Off subject.

Here in Canada it is mandatory and yes you can be fined  ($100,000 minimum 
of liability )
I carry $3,000,000
- Original Message - 
From: "jack.cooper2009" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Off subject.




Charles

I may be wrong but I don't think there is any federal requirement to have 
insurance but your local authorities may require you to show proof of 
insurance to use their facilities. Our airpark requires owners to have X$ 
liability on their aircraft but guests who fly in are not required to have 
it. It only makes sense to protect yourself with liability insurance even if

you don't want or can't afford hull insurance.

Jack Cooper

Chuckey TN.


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Burkholder" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2010 8:35:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: KR> Off subject.

Hi guys,

I'm not an aircraft owner yet so please excuse my ignorance. As an airplane 
owner are you forced to have insurance on your plane? Do you get fined etc 
if you get caught without???

Cheers,

Charles Burkholder





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KR> Stored aircraft engine startup question

[Larry Knox]

First get to gather the information on your engine and you airplane and
study it. Then squirt a little diesel into each cylinder and turn the engine
over a few times. Let it set for 12 hrs and then fire it up. If it has been
a prev. run engine and you have cleaned the Carb. and the fuel filters it
should fire right up. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Joe Walburn
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:36 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Stored aircraft engine startup question

Greetings all,
I'd like to pick your collective brains on the proper engine prep for 
starting an 1830 VW engine that has been sitting quietly in a partially 
built KR2 for maybe five (5) years.  Bear in mind this questioner barely 
knows the difference between a push rod and a pretzel rod.  Thanks much
Joe Walburn, Athens OH
Registration pending 


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KR> canopy covering

[Larry Knox]

It's a slow mean process. Hope someone has a miracle to offer as a solution
but mine was tough, just a smidgen at a time and some dedicated help with
long arms and big strong fingers. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of WARRON GRAY
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 7:24 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> canopy covering

Hi guys I have a "S" and was wondering what is a good method to get the
coating off the canopy from the supplier?. Been sitting for a while on the
plane and now it is time to remove it. Thanks "WG447"
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KR> Cowl

[Larry Knox]

Dan, they said they did the rear starter one as I actually talked to him
about it. Must have gotten to busy to bother with those of us that already
have their engine built. After the problems I have had with the rear starter
set up I sure wish I had the front starter. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:08 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Cowl

I could be wrong about this, but I think that William only has cowls made
for the Front Starter version, the one with the front that looks like the
one on the Cleanex.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

and so as
William has not responded I am still in need of a Cowl. 

Thanks
la...@lebanair.com 


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KR> Cowl

[Larry Knox]

So if I did get the cowl from NVaero it would look like to last Photo and
not the top ones. I also have an aerocarb and the poor cowl I have has a
large air scoop going directly into the carb intake. Does your carb intake
just use air out of the discharge from the cylinder cooling. Your engine has
the manual fuel pump and distributor set up mine does so it should work that
way. I see you have cooling set up for your coils, I think that probably is
a good idea. Do you have points or are you using electronic Ignition.
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:16 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Cowl

Larry,
If you go to http://www.krnet.org/krs/jhorton/  A couple  of the first few
pictures show the current state of my cowl and the very last picture shows
the way it was formed when I first started flying it. The cowl was orignally
bought from Rand but it weighed 18# before any fitting and changing. I
pulled a mold off and sold the cowl and made the one that is on the plane.
It is made from carbon fiber and weighed only 6.5# before I started
modifiying, It probably weighs about 8# now . The orignal way had an out
side scoop for the carb but the aerocarb did not llike it so I changed the
bottom to enclose the carb and filter. I have done some testing on the
intake holes and think that I canclose them up by several sq. inches on each
side with no effect on cooling.
Joe Horton

-- Forwarded Message --
From: "Larry Knox" <la...@lebanair.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: RE: KR> W, CG location
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:33:03 -0700

Question, Joe Horton do you have a photo of your KR2S/Corvair so I can see
what the Cowl looks like. NVAERO said his cowl was like yours. I just
received one from another location that has to be a VW cowl and so as
William has not responded I am still in need of a Cowl. Thanks
la...@lebanair.com 



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KR> Jabiru engine location

[Larry Knox]

Dan, I can't help you with that, but thanks for the general CG location
points. Iv' been trying to find this in my info when I didn't get it off the
KRnet. I still haven't found it. Interesting that you are putting a Jabiru
on your KR, I just received a new crated 2200 that I canceled the order for
as they could not deliver it when I needed it. It will not work on the Sport
Hornet application I wanted it for so I now have a new engine to add to my
collection of goodies that I don't need. I see why you didn't need this cowl
as it sure won't work for the Jabiru application either. Anyone out there
need a beautiful new 2200 Jabiru pusher engine. I'm not sure what the
difference in a pusher and a tractor engine is but I think its accessories.
la...@lebanair.com I thought dealing with Rotax was as bad as it gets but
dealing with Jabiru Pacific isn't proving to be much better. Oh well it will
cost him some sales as it has Rotax.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of DAN INA GLANDT
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:16 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Jabiru engine location


HI,
Would someone be willing to help verify a reasonable engine location for my
KR2s for a Jabiru 2200.  Data is as follows:
Ref line -   firewallFuselage levelTanks empty Nothing mounted forward of
firewallFirewall aft - all in place (seats, wings, canopy, turtle deck,
landing gear [conventional gear], tailTwo people in seats weighing 366 lbs
Look at rearward cg @ 15" behind leading edge.  Understand allowable range
is 8" to 16".
Firewall to wing leading edge is 14.5"
Weight on mains is 615#   17.625" behind ref lineWeight on tailwheel is 138#
158.25" behind ref line
Estimated weight of engine, cowl, prop, mount, battery, etc. is 173#
Total estimated weight is 173+615+138 = 926#
Solve for D,  the distance to the cg of engine, etc.  
615x17,625 + 138x158.25 - 173D = 929x(14.5+15)10839.375 + 21838.5 - 27405.5
= 173D
D = 30.48"
Firewall to engine attach points will be 23".   
The tank behind the firewall holds 10 gallons.  The 8" dia al wink tanks
(formed to a d shape) are mounted directly behind front spar.

Appreciate help and any suggestions.
Dan   
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KR> W, CG location

[Larry Knox]

Question, Joe Horton do you have a photo of your KR2S/Corvair so I can see
what the Cowl looks like. NVAERO said his cowl was like yours. I just
received one from another location that has to be a VW cowl and so as
William has not responded I am still in need of a Cowl. Thanks
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:08 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> W, CG location


Larry asked:



> Question for the "new wing" fliers. Was the CG location for the new 
> wing determined and are measurements for the RAF48 and the new wing, 
> in relation to lead edge and % of M.A.C. the same or did you use the 
> dimensions for the RAF48?


Everything essential to understanding the new wing can be found here:


http://www.krnet.org/as504x/



On that site Mark's comments on Troy Petteway's replacement of the RAF48
wings with AS504X on his airplane indicates that the CG remained exactly the
same.  Obviously, so did the spar spacing and placement on the airframe so
to answer the question indirectly, I believe one of the design goals for the
new wing was to maintain the same structural geometry and CG envelope and
there are enough examples now flying with the new wing to confirm that that
is the case.  Mark could tell us more about the aft 2" of the published KR
center of gravity envelope with the RAF48.  Most builders consider those
last aft inches to be "no fly" loading.


Oscar Zuniga
Flying Squirrel N2069Z

Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
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KR> another couple of sunset pictures...

[Larry Knox]

Mark would it be acceptable for a young lady that does beautiful video clips
to use some of your photos in her clips and presentations she does here at
our Oregon Pilots Assoc. meetings and other presentations she puts together.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:54 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft
Subject: KR> another couple of sunset pictures...

NetHeads,

See the top two at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sunsets/ , one taken
late today, the other late Sunday.  I arrived back today after the guy in
the hangar next door was finishing up 30 hours on his newly minted RV, and
another had just landed in his Apollo weight shift LSA.  While they were
doing pattern work, I flew 50 miles away to Troy Pettway's Columbia airport,
did three touch-n-goes and a flyby, and flew back.  I noticed when I turned
downwind at 220 mph and put it in a 60 degree bank that about 10 different
people had come out of various hangars to watch me land.  Fortunately, it
was a really nice one after a long hard slip to bleed off speed, thanks to
the calm winds and apparently good karma...or maybe it was just luck...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> GPS Unit

[Larry Knox]

Phil, I am sure you will get a response from closer and we probably won't
get to go to Air venture this year, but if you don't we are dealers for the
anywhere map and have 2 demo units and would be glad to send one to whatever
your destination in the US is to be there when you are. They are a very
impressive easy to use unit that works on the road or in the air (more
impressive in the air) and will have all the accessories needed to make it
work. Just let me Know. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of phillip matheson
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:43 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> GPS UNit

HI all
AS many will have heard me say, I will be at Oshkosh this year.
I hope to do some flying after Oshkosh.

I'm looking for a US GPS unit to borrow seal or guy. The unit will not be 
much good to me after leaving the USA,  I'm looking for a Pilot III or 
similar.

you could try my off net
phillipmathe...@bigpond.com address.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 20
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ 



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KR> another couple of sunset pictures...

[Larry Knox]

Thanks, Mark we have had rain for several days and this gets you off the
ground and cleans the soul and raises the spirits. Sure answers the question
about getting back to normal after the pilots License. Thank the Lord you
don't have too. la...@lebanair.com  

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:54 PM
To: KRnet
Cc: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft
Subject: KR> another couple of sunset pictures...

NetHeads,

See the top two at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sunsets/ , one taken
late today, the other late Sunday.  I arrived back today after the guy in
the hangar next door was finishing up 30 hours on his newly minted RV, and
another had just landed in his Apollo weight shift LSA.  While they were
doing pattern work, I flew 50 miles away to Troy Pettway's Columbia airport,
did three touch-n-goes and a flyby, and flew back.  I noticed when I turned
downwind at 220 mph and put it in a 60 degree bank that about 10 different
people had come out of various hangars to watch me land.  Fortunately, it
was a really nice one after a long hard slip to bleed off speed, thanks to
the calm winds and apparently good karma...or maybe it was just luck...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com 


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KR> PPL Update

[Larry Knox]

Nope after you become a pilot you are always way above normal and way to
hell an gone up there in the Rockies. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Glenn Martin
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:54 PM
To: KRnet; Burl Nelson; Joyce Gross
Subject: KR> PPL Update

Today was one of the big milestones. I finally flew my Long X-country. 
Started at Gulfport, MS; to downtown Moblie, AL; then on to Gulf Shores, 
and back to Gulfport. It involved a lot of Radio operations (Gulfport, 
Mobile and Pensacola approach/departure, as well as towered and non 
towered operations. Tracked using Pilotage, VOR radials and VOR 
triangulation for  some waypoints. Altitudes of 5500, 3500 and 4500. 175 
Statute miles total. It went pretty well considering how BUSY I was in 
the cockpit what with the flight plan, calculations and radios. I was a 
bit frazzled, so my landings were a bit less than I have been doing 
recently, but nonetheless, I DID IT!!  It'll will take a lot more flying 
for it to become real second nature, but I AM glad to see it all pull 
together. 2.6 hours on the hobbs (NASTY HEADWIND on the way back) I made 
it back home and promptly CRASHED and BURNED on the couch!!! Its all 
review and polishing from here on. I'll be glad to get the PPL under my 
belt and get back to some NORMAL life again!! (it DOES become NORMAL 
doesn't it)

-- 
Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
EAA479
Biloxi MS


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KR> W, CG location

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Larry what I needed was the format. I am just now working out the
points and positions for things like the battery. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Larry Flesner
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:48 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> W, CG location

At 01:31 AM 4/27/2010, you wrote:
>Thanks, Dan this is outstanding and I just did a preview. I can't imagine
>why I would need any more info. With all the crap I've ran into with this
>plane that was ready to fly, you just made my YEAR. Thanks again, Larry


Larry and other builders,

NEVER, EVER, NEVER use numbers from another KR to determine the W 
of your KR.  Too many variables between airplanes like length of spinner,
  if that is used for datum point, length of engine mount, was wing 
location changed as in 2 inches added forward of the wing in the 2S, 
angle of seat back, etc, etc., etc.  Remember, these are not Cessnas 
or Pipers build in jigs but each is a "one off" airplane.  Each one 
must be treated as a one of a kind and measured and weighted as 
such.  Nothing done to that point matters if the flying CG location 
is not correct.

Larry Flesner


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KR> Corvair performance

[Larry Knox]

Thanks, Dan this is outstanding and I just did a preview. I can't imagine
why I would need any more info. With all the crap I've ran into with this
plane that was ready to fly, you just made my YEAR. Thanks again, Larry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:43 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Corvair performance

The spread sheet found here, may give you that information, cause it is in
the sheet.

http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/WB_Documents.html


See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC



Dan, at what points does the fore and aft CG need to be. Thanks to the KRNET
its easier to ask than dig it out of wherever. la...@lebanair.com  


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KR> Corvair performance

[Larry Knox]

Dan, at what points does the fore and aft CG need to be. Thanks to the KRNET
its easier to ask than dig it out of wherever. la...@lebanair.com  

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:11 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Corvair performance

Level at the longerons.  I understand that is what the plans say, and maybe
I read it there myself, but that is also what I have been told and what I
have used.  So, I simply put a level on the shelf behind the seat and set
the plane to level.

I have questioned that, thinking that maybe it should be with the mean chord
leveled, but was told no, it was at the longerons.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

The sliders for the sliding canopy is on the top of the boat section and
looks good for a level
perspective. Will this work. 


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KR> N774A damage report

[Larry Knox]

Todd, I live in Lebanon OR and I have a mostly built retract set up with
brakes and wheels and tires plus I am sure the plans are in the box of stuff
I have. If you are interested in going with the retract again you are
welcome to what I have. I have a lot of KR2 stuff including a just purchased
cowl that was supposed to be for a Corvair Rear Starter KR and it is without
a drought for a VW based engine as it is almost exactly the same as the one
I have for an original plan set and kit component from RR.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Todd Price
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:12 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> N774A damage report

Charles,
I wouldn't mind seeing your retrac design.

Todd

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Charles Brown  wrote:

> Brad my name is Charles Brown, I have plans for retractable trigear for
the
> KR if you are interested I can make copys and send to you I have help
build
> three KRs and want to start on mine if the shop ever gets cleaned lol I
live
> in the middle of cascade mountains in Washington state. God bless have a
> great day.
>
> --- On Wed, 4/21/10, Brad Ankerstar  wrote:
>
>
> From: Brad Ankerstar 
> Subject: KR> N774A damage report
> To: "Krnet" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 5:09 AM
>
>
> On 14 April at 2:10 pm, N774A hit the ground at about 75 mph after I
> realized it was falling out of the sky.  I had flown a reasonably decent
> pattern and was headed right for the numbers but the airspeed read 80.  As
> I
> applied power to arrest the sink, I hit the ground and bounced.  When I
hit
> again, the gear collapsed and I became a sled.  Stayed on the runway and,
> even though everything that wasn't fastened down flew all over the
cockpit,
> I was not injured.
>
> The prop, of course, is kindling.  The cowl was scuffed up slightly, the
> belly from the main spar forward was also significantly scuffed, and the
> firewall came loose on the top and sides.  The fuel tank front mount kept
> the firewall on the plane.
>
> The landing gear was essentially undamaged.  It did not collapse, as in --
> retract.  What happened was that all 8 of the nuts on the gear leg attach
> bolds were stripped off.  That allowed the gear legs to fold sideways up
> into the wing which prevented a second bounce.  Of course, the top skin on
> each wing was pierced on both sides of the main spar.  If I was so
> inclined,
> I could bolt the gear legs back to the spring, replace a tire that got
> scuffed, and get on with the wood and glass repairs.  However, I am not so
> inclined so I am now in the market for a set of Diehl tricycle gear, plus
> wheels and brakes, and a prop.  A project, on the gear might be
> interesting.
> If anyone has something you think I could use, please contact me off the
> net
> at ankerst...@embarqmail.com.
>
> For the record, N774A is a single place KR 2 with a 1835 cc VW. (ran good
> but the revflow carb is too big)  It had a Hegy 52x44 prop which was at
> 34-3600 rpm for the whole flight.  Empty weight is 587 lbs and gross is
> 950.
>
> I remember speeds from 65 to 135 while I orbited HAO for about 40 minutes,
> trying to find the courage to try to get down.  Remember, I was doing taxi
> tests
> and was no where near ready to fly --- obviously.  I pretty much wasted
all
> that
> time being very gentle trying to keep it in the sky when I should have
been
> doing
> some actual test flying.  Anyway, back to work again.  I have long
thought,
> and now I'm
> convinced, that these are sturdy little birds.
>
> With a couple miracles, we will be at the next gathering.  Without
> miracles,
> I'll drive.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brad Ankerstar, SW Ohio
> N774A, KR2
>
>
>
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-- 
Todd Price
Chandler, AZ
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KR> Deleted KRnet archives

[Larry Knox]

I can't even imagine your patience and willingness to continue doing this
but I can guarantee you there is a lot of people that are glad you have
both, including the author. Thanks, Mark.  la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:46 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Deleted KRnet archives

Myron (Dan) Freeman wrote:

> It would appear that the KR list Moderator has cleaned out any and all
> references to me and thrown me in the trash so to speak. Has this happened
> to anyone else?
> I would agree that the KR list Moderator is a very skilled and talented
> person but Well, it is his ball and bat.
> There have been at least a couple of people on the KRnet that have shown a
> great deal of animosity toward me over the years I've been on the KRnet 
> but
> they have never confided in me exactly why.
> It would not surprise me at all if I were to be banned from the KRnet
> altogether now, so just in case, I'll just say goodbye now and thank all 
> of
> you for all of the good times, and the bad.

I don't know why it is that people immediately assume that I've unsubscribed

them unjustly (usually because their spam filter is deleting their KRnet 
email) or that I'm otherwise behind some diabolical plot to prevent their 
existence on KRnet.  When I go to the KRnet search engine at 
http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp and type in "myron" as a keyword, 
several thousand hits appear less than a second later. Put in your email 
address in the "from" field, and several thousand of the same appear.  I'm 
not sure what archive he's using, but it's not the one that's listed at the 
bottom of every email ever posted to the list, and one in the first 
paragraph or two of www.krnet.org!   And no, I didn't put them back a minute

ago.  And whatever archive he's using, my guess is that he's not doing it 
right or there's some other error, but I assure you it has nothing to do 
with anything I've ever done regarding your email.

What did I ever do to deserve this other than correct you when you were 
spreading disinformation about something you apparently knew nothing about? 
And if I have a problem with you personally, it's mainly due to exactly 
that.  I really do have better things to do than be petty about stuff like 
sanitizing somebody's existence.  I get a lot of compliments about how 
patient I am with people on this list, but I must admit you've really made 
my day!

Nice model, by the way...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com


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KR> Horse Power and fuel burn.

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Phil, works for me. This is what I was looking for and looks like its
achievable. We took the KRCorv. Down to a one day business expo here in
Lebanon OR Tue. Along with our 150 and talk about drawing a amazed crowd.
Most had no idea you could build such a beautiful thing out of a Car engine
and wood and glass. It was loads of fun. Thanks, la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of phillip matheson
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:41 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Horse Power and fuel burn.

Good`Ay Phil,

Better still to calculate HP you have to burn around 27 litres per hour to
make 100 hp.

US gallon =  3.78541178 litres   Therefore adopt   3.7854

7 gall per hour = 26.4978 litres   / 27 X 100   =  98.14 HP

OK  3.8 gallons per hr =  14.38452 litres  / 27 X 100 = 53.276  HP

So if you are happy with the performance of your aircraft then the above
doesn't matter a rats.

If you claim 110 and 120 HP then the fuel burn must stack up too and with a
Corsair driving a propeller I don't think so unless rpm is over way over
4,000 .
Claiming a 100 HP would be a more honest engine specification.

-

HI guys.
I got this today. I was taking engines with a few friends here in Australia.
We were talking VW HP. and finding out how best to work it out. I told them 
how well the Cvars were going at the moment.

Is  this all true? or not?

Please do not shot the messenger.

I have no idea, so I will throw it into the ring.




Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 20
www.phils...@50megs.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: KR> color dragonfly canopy


The color choice is all up to you. Mine is the light grey and I am very
happy with it. Not too dark for night flying either. Here are my links:
http://www.flykr2s.com/gullwingdoor.html



Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "kr net" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: KR> color dragonfly canopy


Hey guys,

We just made the desision to go for a dragonfly canopy. Now we have the
choice in 4 colors, Clear, Light gray, Medium gray, or EZI green. What color
should you buy.
Maybe some body can give me his site adres and color of his canopy so I have
the impression what to buy. Or someone has a bad experience about his color.

Thanks


Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see
http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2


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KR> Corvair performance

[Larry Knox]

Another question. Where do you get the level flight setting for a weight and
balance calculation. I am going to do my initial wt and Bal. so I can decide
if I can put my battery in the Header tank area. The sliders for the sliding
canopy is on the top of the boat section and looks good for a level
perspective. Will this work. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Corvair performance

Larry Knox wrote:

> ...can anyone give
> me a fairly accurate fuel burn at 75% on a Corvair that is a 110 HP 
> version
> that is supposed to have been set up for 120 Horse power.

It'll burn about 7 gal/hr on takeoff or otherwise wide open, and with 
reasonable throttle setting and  leaning will drop to around 3.5 gal/hr 
cruise.  The efficiency of the plane determines how fast you'll be going in 
cruise, but 130 mph is a pretty safe bet.  Mine will do 160 mph true 
airspeed burning 3.8 gallons or so, if that's a clue. 10.5 gallons per side 
is a pretty nice number.  I only carry 15.5 gal total, and I can make over 
500 miles if I'm not in a big hurry and throttle back a tad.

For a lot more info on the performance of a KR running a Corvair (both 
2700cc and 3100cc) see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/performance/ .  That

first chart stinks because it was made on first flights where the EIS was 
all "jiggly", so I need to replace that and generally update that whole 
page, but there's some pretty solid info on that page...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com


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KR> Wheel woes

[Larry Knox]

Aviation is an amazing world. Put you tube in and air it up then take the
core out and slip the half on , if you use a little powder seems to work
almost all the time. A point for an AP. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:58 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Wheel woes

I got my new bearings today, and putting them in was fairly easy.  At first
they did not fit the axle, even they measured as though they should.  A
little buffing with some 220 solved that problem.  



However, I tried the Clorox bottle and the light cardboard and neither would
work.  In fact, I still ended up pinching a hole in the tube.  So I have 3
tubes left and if I go through those, I will have to go to some different
wheels.  This is insane.  Why would anyone ever design a wheel like this, to
go on an airplane, setting everyone up for failure from the start.  I am up
to four tubes shot, now.



I should be flying, instead, I am screwing around with something that should
be a no-brainer task.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

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KR> Scary?

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Dan, I have one of those . They are on Cleveland's but do the same
thing. I guess I'll pull mine down and check them. I would have had my
Corvair started today but after a problem with the starter not engaging the
ring gear deep enough then today there is a wiring unknown that we haven't
ran down. We have her loaded and she will go down Tue to our Business Expo
in Town. We have two spaces there free as we are willing to bring 2 planes
down and set them on both sides of the entry to the expo building. We will
take our 150 trainer and our Corvair KR2S this year to show the ways you can
get into Aviation. We had over 2000 people last year and looking for almost
double that this year. Great fun. la...@lebanair.com  

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:44 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Scary?

More scary.  Today, I finally got the other wheel off.  And it did take a
wheel puller to get this one off.  I have new bearings with the proper ID,
to be delivered today, so this will not be a problem in the future.  The
scary thing is that when I finally got the wheel apart, I saw that most of
the inside diameter of the tube had been pinched in the wheel seam.  And,
the really scary thing is that the wheel had not been torqued completely,
or, the tube would have been cut.  There were no cuts in the tube from where
it was keeping the wheel from going completely together.



I issue this post to any of you who have wheels that you inherited from
someone else.  I should have checked these out completely, before flying
this plane.  I have 95 hours on it, and have been just plain LUCKY.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

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the pics 

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KR> fasteners

[Larry Knox]

My experience with them as they love to cross- thread and eventually spin
the nut in the holder. 
Question , Mark and other Corvair flyers. I just got my wings down that came
with my project with no information. The fuel tanks measure out 10.5 Gal per
side. It has a header tank but I would sooner not use it, so can anyone give
me a fairly accurate fuel burn at 75% on a Corvair that is a 110 HP version
that is supposed to have been set up for 120 Horse power. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:15 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> fasteners

Dan Heath wrote:

> I avoid the floating type, like the plague.

I agree.  I started my engineering career designing Space Shuttle equipment,

and we used them just about everywhere to take care of tolerances between 
existing and new equipment, different vendor items, and it's just generally 
good "I know it will fit together" design practice.  But when it came to 
stuff like mounting my cowling, I match drilled through the cowling and into

the brackets with the same sise drill bit as the fastener (#8 in this case),

then bolted the fixed "nut plate" (anchor nut) to the bracket, match drilled

the rivets and installed them, and the resulting fit is perfect.  Otherwise 
I'd find myself chasing the floating part around trying to get things to 
line up...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com


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KR> fasteners

[Larry Knox]

Dan, do you still have the Corvair/KR cowl. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of DAN INA GLANDT
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:19 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> fasteners


Hi,  
Is there an accepted or common practice for putting screws into the
fiberglass.  I need to have several access panels to get to the aileron and
flap links on the bottom of the wing.  Have thought of things like drill a
1/4 inch or so hole through the fiberglass and into the foam.  Enlarge the
hole in the foam and then fill it with mix of epoxy and something, balloons,
flox ?  Then drill and tap into this for the screw.  ??
Dan   
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KR> mount and cowl for sale

[Larry Knox]

Dan do you still have the cowl for sale. Been a long time but cannot get
William to respond at all and things have kind of went south, north, east
and west here so have not made much progress on the KR. If it's still
available we ship everything here UPS and we have an account so can go that
way , or whatever. Let me know. Thanks, Larry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of DAN INA
GLANDT
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:45 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> mount and cowl for sale


I have a new corvair mount and cowling for sale for the kr2s.  contact me
for details at dagla...@msn.com.
Dan   
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KR> Anyone going to Sun N Fun!!!

[Larry Knox]

Well I wish I was farther along with mine but won't make it. We planed on
coming down again this year but after wrecking the Stinson we just won't be
able to take the time or the money. Will defiantly be ready next year.
la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Steve Glover
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:57 PM
To: KR Net
Subject: KR> Anyone going to Sun N Fun!!!

Hello Netter's,



Well, it is a done deal.  We will be at Sun N Fun and will have a booth near
the lake behind building "D".  We can use it for a rally point for any
netters in attendance and maybe have that BBQ and get together that was
mentioned a couple weeks ago.  There will be a banner with a big red "KR-2S"
on it so it should be easy to find. I'm looking forward to seeing some of
you down there.  We will have a few sets of KR-2S plans for sale and a few
parts on display.  Joe Horton should be in around Thursday and will have his
plane in our display for anyone wanting a closer look at one fine KR with a
Corvair power plant.



On a side note, if there are any other KR builders or fliers local or
planning on flying in, please contact me off list as I might have an extra
pass  in exchange for displaying your plane or project for a few days.



It's a long trek from California but we are excited to be participating this
year and are hoping to bring the KR brand back into the mainstream of
experimental aviation.



Steve Glover

steve.glo...@nvaero.com

Corona, Ca.

KR> Tonights flight.

[Larry Knox]

Only in the world of aviators. Thanks I printed it and will hang it in the
FBO as I have some of Langfords. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:40 PM
To: KR Net; Corvair Net
Subject: KR> Tonights flight.

 I now have 3.5 hours on my new engine and just wanted to share this photo I
took tonight from 3000 feet. 

http://www.flykr2s.com/photo.html


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Matco/Rosenhan Wheels

[Larry Knox]

What kind of wheels do you have that has to have a wheel puller to pull them
off. It should be a pull the cotter pin and take the nut off.
la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:04 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Matco/Rosenhan Wheels

I have to change my tires, and it seems that the only way to do that is to
pull the wheel off the axle, which will require a wheel puller.  What kind
do others use for this, and where do you get it?



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

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the pics 

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KR> NY KR2S Project For Sale - Price Slashed

[Larry Knox]

I've still got mine and was going to inventory it for a guy in CO and
haven't gotten to it. A severe & gusty wind came in last Wed. night and I
tried to get in with my old Stinson 108-3 0470/CS and she couldn't handle
the gusts and I lost her. Was OK until the left wheel dropped off the runway
into the 2 years of construction mud and she went over on her back. I hit
mostly my head and too hard to do any real damage but lots of blood. At my
age it didn't do my back any good from the whip and sudden stop when she hit
the ground. I had her for sale and now have to disassemble her and then try
to sell her as a project. Was a grand bird and a real thrill to fly. Had to
put the inventory and my KR project on hold to salvage my old buddy. I have
one almost complete Kit and another started project and would like someone
to build them. I will take $2500 for the Kit with the Revmaster S engine and
a few hundred for the other complete boat with tail feathers and who knows
what else. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Wegmet
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:08 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> NY KR2S Project For Sale - Price Slashed

I bought it, Bob did a magnificent job on it. It is in my living room and
kitchen and I hope to fly it in about 2 years.

Mark W.
N952MW

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From: krnet-bounces+markwegmet=charter@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+markwegmet=charter@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
michael inskeep
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:06 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> NY KR2S Project For Sale - Price Slashed

Do you still have the kr2s projectfor sale?
I seen it was on barnstormers but I didnt get a reply so i wanted to try
this way
thanks mike



On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RSmith  wrote:

> Come on guys! I have to move in two weeks and really need to sell this
nice
> KR2S project to some lucky person. Wouldn't you like to get a head-start
on
> your construction and get in the air years sooner? Price lowered again to
> $1799.
>
> Sleek and sporty KR2S experimental airplane project for sale. A low-wing,
2
> passenger plane that is fun to fly and cruises at over 140 mph. Not an
> ultralight. Can be flown with recreational or private license.  You save
> years of construction time by buying my almost half-completed plane.
Plane
> is composite (foam and fiberglass/spruce) construction. I have over $2500
in
> materials alone into it. Labor is worth thousands more.
>
>  Project includes: 1) completed fuselage "boat" made with aircraft
mahogany
> ply  2) Completed set of 6 inner and tapered outer spruce/mahogany ply box
> wing spars 3) Set of tailpieces including completed, beautiful horiz
> stabilizer and elevator and vertical stabilizer and rudder that need
> glassing. 4) canopy frame and sleek "dragonfly" optical quality acrylic
> canopy  5) set of airfoil ribs cut to shape 6) fiberglass front deck. 7)
> miscellaneous hardware, fiberglass, carbon fiber, foam, and ply. 8)
> Rand-Robinson plans and construction book. 9) construction logbook and
glue
> test pieces.  Construction quality is outstanding. You can see through the
> fiberglass to see the bond to the spruce. Boat is straight as an arrow.
> Everything is square and aligned. Fuselage has been widened 1 inch at the
> shoulders and 6 inches of horiz stabilizer added. Firewall size is same as
> in RR plans. Wing skins and gear are available elsewhere. Wing attach
> fittings available from me at a bargain price.  Project easily comes apart
> and can fit in the back of a pickup truck for transport. This project will
> get you in the air years faster than starting from scratch.
>
> Better buy it before someone else does!
>
> Call Bob at 518 541 3248 for more information or email at
> rsmith...@nycap.rr.com Local pickup only or shipping arrangements upon
> mutual agreement. Project location is Mechanicville, NY (20 N of Albany)
I
> really want to sell it to someone who will get it flying.
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KR> Sun-N-Fun?

[Larry Knox]

I have a 2 rotor Rotary that is a Norton derivative new pickled. I purchased
it at air-venture in 2003. Any knowledge or info let me know..
l...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
jtw...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:02 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net; gin...@aol.com
Cc: rigatonikarm...@yahoo.com; crusaderra...@gmail.com
Subject: KR> Sun-N-Fun?






This may  be my last opportunity to go to Sun-N-Fun.  I will have at best 
only one  day for attending the Event.  That should be Saturday  17APR10.

Is there  an area being set aside for KR flying machines?  Any 'other' 
activities  specifically oriented toward Ken's remarkable design?  Possibly
a 
massive  fly-over?!
Despite  living less than 80 miles from the event, there is bloody little 
info available  to us local pogues!

Thanks for  ANY info!

_JTWxBY@AOL.com_ (mailto:jtw...@aol.com)  


. . . . .  . . . anyone doing any research on Norton Motorcycle's  
introduction of a 137 hp. (2-rotor) rotary engine?  Super-light wt.,
virtually NO 
vibration, almost instant acceleration, etc. etc.

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KR> APRS

[Larry Knox]

Please do and any info on how you get licensed to use it here at Lebanon
Oregon. la...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> APRS

Details of the new MT-RTG tracker are up on the Byonics website.
$190
for the whole package (APRS unit, GPS, and antenna).  I've just ordered
one.  I'll let you know how it works out.



fyi

-Dj

-- 
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
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KR> Rotary

[Larry Knox]

Want to go with a kit but if it doesn't work we will see. The price will be
right. la...@lebanair.com 

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Sellars
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 8:03 AM
To: 'Virgil N. Salisbury'; 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Rotary

Larry;
I am interested in buying axles and wheels with brakes as an set to
improve my KR-2 so if you would sell the parts, Wheels, axles, brakes all
associated master cylinders etc. I would like to talk.  Please email off the
group, at the below address.
Jim

James E. Sellars, B.A., (Econ.), CFP

International Financial Planner

Keybase Financial Group Inc.

120 Queen St, Moncton, N.-B. Canada E1C-1K7

Phone: (506) 856-7977 | Fax: (506) 859-8504

Email: jsell...@wealthmanagementcanada.com

  jsell...@keybase.com

Web: www.WealthManagementCanada.com

-Original Message-
From: Virgil N. Salisbury [mailto:virg...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: February 27, 2010 11:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Rotary

Larry, where are you and how much for the
Rotary ? Virg, Tire Kicker


    Larry Knox wrote:
>  I also have
> a new and pickled English built Rotary that is 100 horse that is only
short
> the intake air distributor. 
>
>
>   


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KR> Rotary

[Larry Knox]

Lebanon Oregon S30. I paid $6500 for it at Airventure 2003 but am totally
open on the price. It is a beautiful engine but the Co that built it is out
of business. It was a Norton motorcycle engine co that built it.
la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Virgil N. Salisbury
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Rotary

Larry, where are you and how much for the
Rotary ? Virg, Tire Kicker


    Larry Knox wrote:
>  I also have
> a new and pickled English built Rotary that is 100 horse that is only
short
> the intake air distributor. 
>
>
>   


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KR> (no subject)

[Larry Knox]

I have 2 partly built KR2S projects and purchased a 3third that was supposed
to be bolt together and fly. I cannot do my own work anymore due to physical
problems associated with construction work. I am going to finish the last
one but would like the rest to go to a good home. I would put together a
pretty complete plane kit. I have a 2100S Revmaster engine and engine mount
I got in the last set of parts that was originally on an aircraft N52WV that
looks like it was a KR2 Serial # 001 belonging to W. E. Vincent in 1979. I
am open on price if someone really wants to build it and fly it. I also have
a new and pickled English built Rotary that is 100 horse that is only short
the intake air distributor. I have aluminum spring and retract gear as well
as the nose gear, wheels tires and brakes (Cleveland) plus some instruments
and a lot of construction materials. la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Fred
Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 7:13 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> (no subject)

Stathis,

Welcome to the "net"

Keep looking, there are many projects here for sale, just be patient and
you'll find the right one.



Fred Johnson
Reno, NV


Stathis wrote:

Hello my name is Stathis Georgopoulos, iam living in Athens, Greece, my
email is eege...@yahoo.gr and my tel: 0030 6936 856050.
 
Iam abig fun of kr2, i wanted to build one since iwas 20 (iam 40 now), I now
"everything" about kr2, i read again and again all the constraction logs
from all of you (krnet).
The truth is that here in greece it is very difficult to find "fings" to
built a kr2s, actually any airplane, so i diside to buy a ready one or a
project. Iam looking to find something throu the internet but even that is
difficult. I found a project for sale in NY but he wasn;t interested to send
it to greece .
 I have a friend who lives in CA, i gave him the tel of RR to contact them
so i can buy throu him everything i need to built a kr2s.
Stthis Georgopoulos



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KR> KR3

[Larry Knox]

My personal apology to Mark Langford and all the effort he has done for all
of us and the inconvenience to other netters. I had not read the rule in
their entirety but I have now. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:37 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR3

I've seen the "official" KR3 amphibian drawings, but I suspect there was a 
previous "KR3" version that was a twin retract.  See 
http://www.krnet.org/misc/kr3_twin.pdf .  The handwriting looks familiar.

I don't recall ever having said (or thought) anything like the KRnet list 
was dedicated only to KR2s.  I have no idea where that idea came from.

I do know I'm tired of having to correct people who are bent on dragging 
politics, religion, nationalism, and other stuff into conversation.  These 
topics tend to divide people rather than unite them.  I suspect most of us 
can agree that building and flying KRs is a good thing, and hope that we can

leave it at that.  Everytime one of these post-a-thon things erupts, 2 or 3 
people unsubscribe from the list.  We've lost some very good contributors 
who simply don't have the will or time to sift through all the useless junk 
emails to find the few gold nuggets.

Another (of my many peaves) is people who reply to messages and don't bother

to remove most of the previous post.  There's a very good description of why

this needs to be done at http://www.krnet.org/info.html .  For those who are

too lazy to click on that link, the net rules are presented below.  Please 
take two minutes and read them all...

KRNetiquette
We have a few folks who feel compelled to comment on just about every post 
made, and I can only be thankful that all 600 of us don't do that, or we'd 
be wading through several thousand emails a day! Please be considerate of 
your fellow KRNetHeads. A few of us would do well to heed the following 
advice:

1) Think long and hard before you publicly flame somebody on this list. This

list may not be like others you've been on. We don't do that here, period. 
If you have a personal problem with another lister, you need to address it 
off the list and spare the rest of us your angst. If you disagree with 
something somebody else posted, you can disagree in a nice manner without 
getting all bent out of shape. Just point out your side of the discussion 
and let others be the judge. Public flaming and superfluous bad language 
will not be tolerated.

2) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key 
sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search 
thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown wrote

"me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts also 
gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up getting 
10 hits for the same message.

3) Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what you're 
replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it works great" 
doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's talking about, so 
please cut and paste some of what you're replying to above your comments.

4) Carefully consider whether or not you even need to reply to a post. 
Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it just

makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're talking about,

maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There are FEW people who

know everything about everything. Try to stick to things you KNOW about, and

let others answer the rest.

5) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover the 
whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an issue, 
and make it a post that others will want to save or print out and keep. 
Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet.

6) Put your email address in your signature to make emailing others "offnet"

easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our posts, it would be 
far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click on it, if it's not, 
cut it and paste it into the "To" box. If throwing your email address out on

the internet makes you nervous (and it should), camoflage it a little by 
replacing the @ symbol with "at", or something similar, so that bot crawlers

won't know what to do with it.

7) If you don't have anything subtantial to say, please don't post anything.

This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused on KRs, or at 
least airplanes. With over 600 people on the list, if we all decided to say 
something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask yourself "do 600 people 
really need to see this, or are 600 people going to be annoyed by this?" 
Personally, my time is pretty precious to me, and I hate to waste it reading

inane email. And is it something that you could find somewhere else?

8) Don't send 

KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

We were looking for INTELEGENCE 

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From: krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
jtw...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:22 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Good Grief!

Why  is there all this inane discussion, about ELTs or any other  
regulations? 


It's  such a simple procedure to e-mail the FAA.


Geeez . . . . . . . . . 




An  ELT, in my opinion, is the same type of 'insurance'
as  motorcycle helmets on road machines and shoulder
harnesses & roll-over reinforcements in  aircraft.

I've  always figgered that anyone stooopid enough to do without these cheap 
but very  effective forms of protection deserves to die.   Period.

Darwin referred to the survival of the  fittest.
Me  dear sainted Mother referred to it as, "Purification of the gene  pool."

Geez . . . . . . . .  
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

A-MEN

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of jtw...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:27 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

Well said. Thank you  for the back-up about ELTs, Spot, whatever. 

Kinda like the NRA sez  about personal defense weapons & the legality of 
carryin' 'em:  Better  to be 'caught' with that concealed 9mm than to be 
'caught' without it . . . . .  . . .
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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

You're looking for common sense in the wrong place. The government. But not
going to the 406 is not very sensible either. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:42 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

I have to agree.

There were 8 people rescued in 5 incidents by aviation ELTs in 2009
according to NOAA/NTSB last year. They go off correctly 75% of the time,
originally it was 25% for the first generation. A major part of the
reason for going to 406Mhz is that each one has a identifier. They can
look up the identifier and usually eliminate a false alarm with a few
phone calls instead of sending out search and rescue only to have them
end up at the airport or a private airfield. 
On the other hand PLBs were instrumental in 3 times as many rescues and
the Marine equivalent of Elts were responsible for the vast majority  of
rescues at sea. When you consider the damage a plane will usually
sustain in an accident or when over water a fixed ELT seems like a poor
option to a PLB which you could activate if you survive and perhaps move
to a better area for sending a signal than buried under a canopy of
trees upside down. Bottom line though is it is mandatory until we can
talk them into allowing PLBs as a substitute. 

Personally I think items like SPOT are much more functional and useful
than a ELT.

Rodney

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+rodney.r.hall.ctr=navy@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dana Overall
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 13:57
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside
the fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on
a boar hog.  Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips
the antenna off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the
ground.  Even if it does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass
before they find you using the outdated triangulation search techniques.
High priced, worthless insurance in my book...but that is my opinion
only:-)  A spot at least provides a track and general area to start
looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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> From: jtw...@aol.com

> Good Grief!

> Geeez . . . . . . . . . 


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KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?

[Larry Knox]

Too much time to make new regulations and not enough time or intelligence to
do anything beneficial. FAA (Government)

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dana
Overall
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?


Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside the
fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on a boar
hog.  Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips the antenna
off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the ground.  Even if it
does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass before they find you
using the outdated triangulation search techniques. High priced, worthless
insurance in my book...but that is my opinion only:-)  A spot at least
provides a track and general area to start looking.

With that said, single seat no, more than one yes.  Outdated FAA

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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> From: jtw...@aol.com

> Good Grief!

> Geeez . . . . . . . . . 


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KR> ELT's

[Larry Knox]

Spot does not and neither does a personal ELT. la...@lebanair.com my
understanding.

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Of j...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:50 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT's

Single place NO able to carry passengers YES,  Virg


Lee Van Dyke wrote:
> Is an ELT required in  all aircraft in the USA.  ie even the KR?  

Does "Spot" qualify as an acceptable ELT? 

Jay W. Hughes

N128JH 

American by Birth - A Texan by the Grace of  God


In God we  trust!
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KR> fuel

[Larry Knox]

We know transportation and distribution is going to be a bear as with Avgas
and having to be transported and stored in totally separate trucks as per
FAA. It is supposed to be $2.00 at the pump. Can't see it happening though.
la...@lebanair.com 

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Of STEVE bennett
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:18 AM
To: krnet
Subject: KR> fuel


I wonder if producing fuel for 2 bucks a gallon translates into 3 or 4 bucks
a gallon at the pump or is the 2 bucks a gallon the target retail price?
Mark up, delivery, storage etc.

Steve Bennett

ifly...@msn.com




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KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

[Larry Knox]

I can't find the article but one of the magazine editors flew to swift and
filled up and flew it home. A really good article if I can find it. I would
sure buy all the stock I could get if it was for sale. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Lee Parker
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:16 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel

Swift said they could produce their fuel for $2.00 a gallon once they good
geared up for full production.  That is about half what I am paying for
100LL.   They couldn't tell me when they planned to go full blast.  They did
say they had sent two barrels to the FAA and they liked what they liked it. 
I guess we will just have to wait and see.  I wouldn't hesitate to invest
myself.

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Larry Flesner  wrote:


From: Larry Flesner 
Subject: Re: KR> Bye Bye 100LL/ Swift Fuel
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:22 PM


At 02:34 PM 2/8/2010, you wrote:
>If I heard correctly, I believe the Swift fuel would cost about 
>$62.00 per gallon right now and that the quantiy that they have been 
>able to produce to this point is laughable (as in just a few 
>gallons) I think Swifts big goal right now is to sell shares of 
>stock to suckers !!
>
>Larry Howell

+++

I listened to the interview and never heard anything about $62 a 
gallon.  That might be what it's costing them for their "test" 
batches but they claim it should be comparable to 100LL when in full 
production.  They also claim it will increase your horse power by 
allowing you to advance timing by 2 or 3 degrees.  Personally, I hope 
they succeed.  If they do, I don't expect to see it on the market for 
3 to 5 years.  Also, if I heard correctly, they have produced a 4000 
gallon batch or two for running a test engine (a big one, 540ci or 
so) to TBO and check for wear.

Larry Flesner


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KR> another non-sunset flight picture

[Larry Knox]

And hope we stay that way. la...@lebanair.com

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+larry=lebanair@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Randy
Smith
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:16 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> another non-sunset flight picture

That is suppose to be AMATEUR but I guess we really have not grown up yet so
it could be immature

--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Randy Smith  wrote:


From: Randy Smith 
Subject: Re: KR> another non-sunset flight picture
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 8:08 AM


Don't tell the KR I have down stairs what its VNE is. I have been to 235
with a EJ 22 150 hp on my KR. I plan on racing the plane this year. There is
an immature group holding races around the country and I am going to try and
enter. You race against time.
With my planes if you pull inside static it will only give you about 5 mph
higher indication. When I have certain people riding I will reach over and
pull my standby source and then point out the airspeed. I pull standby
source about once a month just to make sure they are working.

--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Oscar Zuniga  wrote:


From: Oscar Zuniga 
Subject: KR> another non-sunset flight picture
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 7:55 AM


NX41CC

Flying Squirrel N2069Z
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net



              
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KR> Latest intake manifold experiment

[Larry Knox]

I think you are right about that. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:00 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Latest intake manifold experiment

A concern that I have about that is icing.  I think that with all those very
small wires, it would be easy for it to ice over.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-


In my younger days we used to put aluminum window screening sandwiched
between 2 carburetor spacers to help atomize fuel. 


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KR> Latest intake manifold experiment

[Larry Knox]

We used to do this same trick with our old Chevy dump trucks so they had
enough power to get in and out of the silage pits to dump the silage. Don't
know how much power we gained on the old 6 cylinder engines but it was
enough to do the job. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of mbz...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:40 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Latest intake manifold experiment

In my younger days we used to put aluminum window screening sandwiched
between 2 carburetor spacers to help atomize fuel. Theory was that the
screen creates micro vortexes and helps with a more even air/fuel mixture
distribution to all cylinders. We didn't have a dino machine to test this
out, but my guess would be that we gained at least 5hp. 
This might be worth looking into for the uneven burn problems. 
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KR> test...

[Larry Knox]

Mark, you didn't say what your stall speeds were. Could you include them.
Thanks, la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 4:20 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> test...

Joe Coggiano wrote:

> does any of the custom ops manuals contain angle of bank/ stall speeds at 
> gross.
> i realize there are many different engines. also Mark has flaps, which 
> should enhance
> these numbers.

Stall speed is dependent on bank angle in a known manner, so if you know the

stall speed in straight and level flight, there are charts that will show 
you the factor to multiply by to get your stall speed at various bank 
angles.  My flaps help to lower my stall speed by about 6 mph, best I can 
tell, and with more deflection I can improve on that some.  I guess the only

time I stalled mine at full gross weight was with Glenda, and I wasn't 
watching the ASI when that happened!

There's a nice chart in the middle of 
http://www.auf.asn.au/groundschool/umodule2.html that shows stall speeds for

various bank angles, as well as a wealth of other information.  Also see the

links at the bottom of that webpage.  That whole series of articles should 
keep you busy the rest of the day

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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KR> folding wings

[Larry Knox]

Darn, your right. It sounded to easy. If there is a bidding I want to be
involved. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:59 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> folding wings

After rereading Ray's post, I guess I'll take back that I'll document it all

and put it on KRnet.  That's Moore's "iintellectual property", so that 
wouldn't be right.  Perhaps he's still on KRnet and would offer those plans.

Maybe the raffle idea for that one setup isn't such a bad idea either.  If 
we can't locate him, that may be a different matter, but that's for later.

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com


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KR> folding wings

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Mark, will work for me. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:50 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> folding wings

Ray Fuenzalida wrote:

> Is it something that should wait for the next Gathering (Dana can use it 
> as a raffle prize or even a tech session)? Should we try to do something 
> like a prop bank and everybody that uses it send a payment to Mr. Moore 
> (let Mark keep it)?

If you'll send it to me I'll document it and put it on KRnet so others can 
build it, assuming it's a reasonable approach to the problem, that is.  And 
I'll bring it to the Gathering as well, and put it on display.

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com 


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KR> folding wings

[Larry Knox]

Ray could you take a good picture or two of it and post it on the Net. I
really would like to see it but I am in Oregon and will have the KR done
before I get that far from home. I want a good folding wing or a quick
detach for 68KR. Thanks, la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Ray Fuenzalida
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:15 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> folding wings

Hey Guys,
There was an entire deal about 'folding wings" a few years back.  Basically
a Mr. Moore had a design for folding wings and had offered one free to the
KR community.  I guess in the hope that the rest of the community would buy
his plans from him for any additional sets.  There was a raffle and I
actually won.  However, I have since acquired a hangar and didn't need it
but still thought it might be a good option.
He never sent me a set of plans but he did send me an actual folding wing
set up.  it's just set up on the spars to show you how it would work.  I
have never used it and have now decided that I will never use it. 
Therefore, in the interest of what Mr. Moore was trying to achieve I will
offer it back to the KR community.  I don't know the best way to achieve
that goal.
Is it something that should wait for the next Gathering (Dana can use it as
a raffle prize or even a tech session)?  Should we try to do something like
a prop bank and everybody that uses it send a payment to Mr. Moore (let Mark
keep it)?
I still have all the original emails from back then if anybody wants to
track the story.
I don't want to start a thread that will last forever, but I do want to try
to do what I can for the group.  Thanks.
 
Ray
New Orleans



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KR> paper pilot certificate

[Larry Knox]

That would be a neat way to go but my wife says I need saddle bags now as my 
pockets are so full I can't keep them snapped, that would definitely put it 
over the top. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Tim
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:12 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> paper pilot certificate

One of our Company's pilots' received his new Canadian Licence. It's just 
like a passport but has his picture on several different pages, it also 
holds the medical Certificate.

CldLk-Tim

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From: "Larry Knox" <la...@lebanair.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: KR> paper pilot certificate


>I got both my light sport maintenance and Inspector and my plastic cards 2 
>weeks ago. I had the change the Address on my Maint. Lic. My pilot lic was 
>about wore out from carrying since 62. la...@lebanair.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf 
> Of jack.cooper2009
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:12 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> paper pilot certificate
>
>
>
> Just got my new plastic license yesterday.
>
> Jack cooper
>
> Chuckey TN.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "joe kr2s builder" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
> To: corvaircr...@mylist.net, kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2010 9:54:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: KR> paper pilot certificate
>
> Hey Guys,
> Happy New Year, Below is an excert from n AOPA email that i got. I was not 
> awear that we had to get the new plastic certs and I just thought that I 
> may not be the only one. I had not changed mine from the SSN so I was able 
> to do it for free.
> Copied from an AOPA email:
>
>>>Paper pilot certificates will no longer be valid after March 31, 2010, so 
>>>make sure you?ve upgraded to a plastic certificate. The FAA mandated the 
>>>change because it says the plastic certificates are more counterfeit 
>>>resistant. Pilots can request the plastic certificate through the FAA?s 
>>>Web site or by mail. The cost is $2, but if you change your pilot 
>>>certificate number from your Social Security number, the switch is free. 
>>>Temporary, student, and flight instructor certificates are not impacted 
>>>by the rule.
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KR> paper pilot certificate

[Larry Knox]

I got both my light sport maintenance and Inspector and my plastic cards 2 
weeks ago. I had the change the Address on my Maint. Lic. My pilot lic was 
about wore out from carrying since 62. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
jack.cooper2009
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:12 AM
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Subject: Re: KR> paper pilot certificate



Just got my new plastic license yesterday. 

Jack cooper 

Chuckey TN. 
- Original Message - 
From: "joe kr2s builder"  
To: corvaircr...@mylist.net, kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2010 9:54:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: KR> paper pilot certificate 

Hey Guys, 
Happy New Year, Below is an excert from n AOPA email that i got. I was not 
awear that we had to get the new plastic certs and I just thought that I may 
not be the only one. I had not changed mine from the SSN so I was able to do it 
for free. 
Copied from an AOPA email: 

>>Paper pilot certificates will no longer be valid after March 31, 2010, so 
>>make sure you?ve upgraded to a plastic certificate. The FAA mandated the 
>>change because it says the plastic certificates are more counterfeit 
>>resistant. Pilots can request the plastic certificate through the FAA?s Web 
>>site or by mail. The cost is $2, but if you change your pilot certificate 
>>number from your Social Security number, the switch is free. Temporary, 
>>student, and flight instructor certificates are not impacted by the rule. 
 
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KR> Address -

[Larry Knox]

Thanks for posting here. Happy new years and good luck with the surgery,
hope it's not major. You have our prayers. Larry

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of EZ Pilot
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:01 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Address - 

Hi Eric,

I didn't receive any messages that I remember.  I did completely lose my
hard drive a little over a month ago and lost virtually all my contact info.
I am still waiting to see what I get back from the data recovery from the
old drive.  I try to stay on top of anything that comes in by email or with
the blackberry.  I am leaving in a few minutes for surgery but will contact
you direct in the next day or so once I am able to function again from the
medications.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

Our web address is www.nvaero.com.  The other address that is posted keeps
popping up is left over from when we were searching for a service provider.
Although it will get you there, it is confusing. We have been trying to get
the provider to fix whatever it is causing the change...

Sorry to the netter's for posting here.  I just wanted to make sure Eric
received the message before I leave for surgery.

Regards,

Steve Glover

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Eric Evezard
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:34 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Address

Hi Netters,
I have had no luck in trying to contact Steve Glover on the addresses he
gave on the net.I am interested in purchasing supplies but my attempts have
been returned as undeliverable.Any suggestions ?
Best regards,
Eric,
South Africa
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KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

[Larry Knox]

The guy that wrote the insert about his tail wheel problems probably ought
to do just that. He may have better luck figuring it out. la...@lebanair.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:48 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

Larry wrote:

>Builders can save themselves a lot of time by not trying to re-invent 
>the wheel (no pun intended) and copy one of the many proven designs 
l>ike mine, Langford's, Dan Heath's, or others.  
>As always, your results may vary.

>Larry Flesner

And of course you could also copy Horton or Jones' set up where the tail
wheel was actually installed on the opposite send of the airframe.
Sorry - couldn't resist- Merry Christmas All
Joe Horton
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KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

[Larry Knox]

Thanks, Larry this will work for me. I was going to set mine at 3/16 toe in
but will go with dead ahead. In the piper gear we try for 1/4 or better per
wheel toe in but that's piper gear. Cessna's we try for a little less but
still toe in. The 20 and 20/22 pipers are a little squirlie so we seem to
have better luck with a little more. Of course you have to do a gear spring
or bend to accomplish this as usually its caused from a ground loop or near
so and precision is a little hard to achieve. Again, thank,
la...@lebanair.com 

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Larry Flesner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:16 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

At 09:12 PM 12/22/2009, you wrote:
>The DC3 and B17 suspensions work directly for and aft and up and down,
>therefore their toe in does not change with suspension movement.
>Barry Kruyssen
+++

That is true and I was using that to make a point.  The Diehl gear, 
in my opinion, has very little fore / aft movement, or at least not 
enough to be a factor.  I think that Mark Langford's and my slightly 
longer than standard, slightly reinforced, Diehl gear with over 1000 
hours of combined flight time would indicate that zero toe-in / 
toe-out works well.

While I don't question your statement "(Just apply your brakes and 
apply power and see how much they flex, mine move back about 6mm)." , 
that is not a condition your gear sees on most hard surface takeoffs 
and landings.  Rough sod could cause fore and aft movement but the 
effect on directional control has less effect with less tire to 
surface friction.  Any roughness causing the gear to flex aft will 
probably  call for immediate and aggressive rudder input to maintain 
directional control anyway, independent of gear alignment.

I think this subject is being over analyzed.  Go with what has been 
flight proven and move along.  Zero toe-in / toe-out on the Diehl 
gear works well and, if I were doing it again, is the setup I would use.

Larry Flesner


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