KR> FYI from EAA

[Timothy Bellville]

Do you have a web site or number for this Bastard,I hope he is up for
reelection and gets his ass kicked.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Eason" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: KR> FYI from EAA


> Senator,
>
> Please strongly oppose a newly introduced bill by Rep. Anthony Weiner
> (D-N.Y.)  Bill (H.R. 5035) would require the Department of Homeland
Security
> to create a method of screening all passengers and property on each flight
> of all passenger aircraft in the U.S., including general aviation aircraft
> of all types. It would also prohibit any non-airline aircraft from flying
> within 1,500 feet of any structure or building, and prohibit non-airline
> aircraft from flying over any U.S. city with a population of 1 million or
> more. It would further require that pilots of all aircraft in U.S.
airspace
> remain in contact with the Federal Aviation Administration, presumably by
> radio, regardless of altitude or location.
>
> I am a GA pilot and believe this is un-nesessary, over-reactive  and be
very
> expensive, in the name of Home Land Security.  We GA pilots are reponsible
> and follow the FAR's. We can do our own policing, and we do.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron Eason
> 714KZ
>
>
>
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KR> Not ready but it flys

[Timothy Bellville]

I have an original KR2 built to ken' and Ed's revised plans, and I have
discovered that I do not have enough Aileron travel.
Does anyone have any advice on how to increse it?
They only move about 5 deg. up and 10 down. That can't be enough.
Any help please.
Tim

KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Orma that sounds like a good way to do it.I will give it a try as
soon as I can and let you know. what days are good for you for the visit?
You could meet me at my house and I'll dirive us to the airport.
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Orma" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes


> Tim to bleed the system with a small hose a jar and no other equipment,
> connect the hose to the bleeder valve (You can use a tywrap to secure the
> hose to the bleeder valve) and pre fill the hose with fluid and let all
the
> air rise to the top.  If the hose is long enough, place the end of it in
the
> reservoir.  If you are alone and want to see what you are doing, route the
> hose to pass where you can see it.  If you don't have a long hose use a
> second person and a jar.  Open the bleeder valve, but only just enough for
> fluid to come out.  Get in and start to slowly pump the brake for the
> caliper you connected.  Pump until there are no more bubbles in the hose.
> If you use a second person and a jar, don't forget to keep refilling the
> reservoir.  If using the long hose, the reservoir should stay full.  Make
> sure that the hose does not come out of the reservoir.  Do the same to the
> second caliper.  I have used this method on the most stubborn Piper
> Aircraft, usually the ones with a parking brake and dual brakes.  Good
Luck,
>
> P.S. Call me so that I can come see the plane.
>
> Orma
> Southfield, MI
> N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years
>
>
>
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KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Mark,
I'll run down and get one before I go back to the airport. I am going to try
all of the ideas that were offered till I get better results.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes


> The simplest pump (about $5-7) is a marine lower unit gear lube pump. I
can
> be found at Wal Mart in the boat supplies or at any boat parts supplier.
The
> pump threads on to most quart size bottles. It comes complete with tube
and
> clamps. It is designed to pump fluid upwards and has a built in check
valve
> to eliminate fluid running back into the bottle. Simply press the tube
over
> the bleeder nipple on the caliper, open the bleeder and pump the brake
fluid
> up to the reservoir. It can be done by one person if you make one or two
> pumps, close the bleeder and check the reservoir. I just did it this past
> Saturday. No air and easy to do.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes
>
>
> > Thanks Orma that sounds like a good way to do it.I will give it a try as
> > soon as I can and let you know. what days are good for you for the
visit?
> > You could meet me at my house and I'll dirive us to the airport.
> > Tim
> > KR2  N7038V
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes
> >
> >
> > > Tim to bleed the system with a small hose a jar and no other
equipment,
> > > connect the hose to the bleeder valve (You can use a tywrap to secure
> the
> > > hose to the bleeder valve) and pre fill the hose with fluid and let
all
> > the
> > > air rise to the top.  If the hose is long enough, place the end of it
in
> > the
> > > reservoir.  If you are alone and want to see what you are doing, route
> the
> > > hose to pass where you can see it.  If you don't have a long hose use
a
> > > second person and a jar.  Open the bleeder valve, but only just enough
> for
> > > fluid to come out.  Get in and start to slowly pump the brake for the
> > > caliper you connected.  Pump until there are no more bubbles in the
> hose.
> > > If you use a second person and a jar, don't forget to keep refilling
the
> > > reservoir.  If using the long hose, the reservoir should stay full.
> Make
> > > sure that the hose does not come out of the reservoir.  Do the same to
> the
> > > second caliper.  I have used this method on the most stubborn Piper
> > > Aircraft, usually the ones with a parking brake and dual brakes.  Good
> > Luck,
> > >
> > > P.S. Call me so that I can come see the plane.
> > >
> > > Orma
> > > Southfield, MI
> > > N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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>
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KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Sorry Mark,
I'll try to do a better job of proof reading

KR> Builders in the Statesville area of North Carolina

[Timothy Bellville]

Ahh. Gods country !Sorry not any more, but I did love it so.
Tim
KR2  N7038V
Toledo Ohio
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert L. Stone" 
To: "KR Builders Pilots" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 8:24 AM
Subject: KR> Builders in the Statesville area of North Carolina


> Netters,
> 
> Are there any of you who live in the Statesville area of North Carolina?
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Txc
> 
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
> 
> 
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KR> retract gears/was something else

[Timothy Bellville]

Oscar, there is one two hangers down from mine . It was built by a gent
named John Shaffer. I'll ask his permission to send you some pic's of it. It
is a very nice set up, much like a Bonanza.
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Oscar Zuniga" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:26 PM
Subject: KR> retract gears/was something else


> gleone wrote-
>
> >I remember seeing a picture of a KR-2 with retractable tricycle gear.
The
> >problem is, I don't remember where.
>
> Probably Ron Eason's setup, which used to be at http://www.freeyellow.com
> but gets a 404 error now.  If Ron is still on the list maybe he'll let on
to
> where the pix are now.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
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KR> retract gears/was something else

[Timothy Bellville]

Oh,It is one neat set up,and solid as a rock. I went flying today in a
rented spam can but didn't see him.I'll dig up his number and pass on the
invite.
BTW everyone , I solved the problem with my brakes, it was a stupid mystake
on my part, too much tension on the plunger stem from the mount. felt like a
real Jack a#$.
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Dene Collett (SA)" <dene.coll...@telkomsa.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: KR> retract gears/was something else


> Hi Timothy
> It would be great if you could get those pics of John's gear, I suppose if
> it has already been done successfully, I don't need to worry if the wing
can
> handle it or not--it obviously can. Still it would be great to see how he
> did it.
> Dene Collett
> KR2S-RT builder
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa
> mailto: dene.coll...@telkomsa.net
> P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> retract gears/was something else
>
>
> > Oscar, there is one two hangers down from mine . It was built by a gent
> > named John Shaffer. I'll ask his permission to send you some pic's of
it.
> It
> > is a very nice set up, much like a Bonanza.
>
>
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KR> EAA, flybys, Gathering

[Timothy Bellville]

Come on guys, lets stick to KR's,and not whos running for the whitehouse,If
I want that I'll turn on Fox news.The last thing we need here is a feud over
those john,john idiots and "W".
On that note I would like to report that I have moved my bird to the airport
and if all goes well I'll be ready to fly to the Gathering.
And I hope to do my part next year at Airventure .
Tim Bellville, Cpl., OANG
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Rupert" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:56 PM
Subject: RE: KR> EAA, flybys, Gathering


> Do I get to black out my numbers and drop a bag full of dog do-do?
> Doug Rupert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Oscar Zuniga
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:34 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> EAA, flybys, Gathering
>
> If you want attention for your KR, come fly over Crawford, TX and you'll
get
>
> it.  Try a low pass at treetop height, flat out at 200 MPH so you can see
> the earphones in the Secret Service guys' ears.  You will have instant,
> national recognition for your KR
> Oscar Zuniga
>
>
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KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Ok Guys I was doing some Taxi tests yesterday with my KR2 and found two
problems, first one is the engine idel, I couldn't get it to sit still on
the runway at the lowest throttle setting so I need to look at that again.
And the other problem is the one I need the most help on.,My brakes.
Apparently I still have air in the lines that I can't seem to get out. Can
anyone give me some advice on how to bleed piper master cyclinders with a
remote resivore.
Thanks
Tim KR2  N7038V

KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Jim, but i have one too. and I guess I am doing somthing wrong. The
air bubbles don't seem to want to migrat to the bleeder valves with a vacuum
pump.
I was thinking of giving Orma's method a try.
Do you belive that the post office has yet to send me any thing on that
gear?Never again!!
Thanks
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "James R Freeman" <jrfree...@highland.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes


> Tim:
> If You wish I can loan You a MityVac kit. It is the model with the
brake
> bleeder and will do pres. or vac. I have not used this one, it came with
the
> last used Mercedes I got. But I have used the same model in the past when
I
> had A.C. brake problems.
> I think I have Your address. Let me know.
>         Jim
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:20 AM
> Subject: KR> KR Brakes
>
>
> >
> > Ok Guys I was doing some Taxi tests yesterday with my KR2 and found two
> > problems, first one is the engine idel, I couldn't get it to sit still
on
> > the runway at the lowest throttle setting so I need to look at that
again.
> > And the other problem is the one I need the most help on.,My brakes.
> > Apparently I still have air in the lines that I can't seem to get out.
Can
> > anyone give me some advice on how to bleed piper master cyclinders with
a
> > remote resivore.
> > Thanks
> > Tim KR2  N7038V
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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KR> KR Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

They are Gerdies wheel cyclienders and piper masters.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Brakes


> >Apparently I still have air in the lines that I can't seem to get out.
Can
> >anyone give me some advice on how to bleed piper master cyclinders with a
> >remote resivore.
> >Tim KR2  N7038V
> 
>
> What type of brakes do you have installed.  Most brakes have a bleeder
> valve at the wheel.  You need to "push" the fluid up from the bottom.
> An oil can with a hose attached or whatever it takes.  Fill from the
> bottom until the system is full.  A second person is very helpful.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR> KR Paint job

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Guys , just wanted to give an update on the painting of my KR.
I decided to go with the white , and used a very good polyurathane enamal,
with a HVPL gun. This time no runs or saggs, and very little difficulty
geting it to look decent.
I regret not being able to get the silver to look good but I am really happy
with the way she looks now. The white does alot to hide imperfections, and
the self leveling polyurathane sprays great .
I will not be able to fly her to Airventure, as I will not have the 40 hrs
flow off of her yet. But I am thinking of trailering her there.
Tim
KR2  N7038V

KR> Gathering - only 76 days away.

[Timothy Bellville]

Do I detect a Fellow Marine?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering - only 76 days away.


> ORRAAHH!! 
>  
> "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
> building has long since expired."
>  
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>  
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KR> Re: KR Paint job

[Timothy Bellville]

- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:16 PM
Subject: KR Paint job


>
> Hi Guys , just wanted to give an update on the painting of my KR.
> I decided to go with the white , and used a very good polyurathane enamal,
> with a HVPL gun. This time no runs or saggs, and very little difficulty
> geting it to look decent.
> I regret not being able to get the silver to look good but I am really
happy
> with the way she looks now. The white does alot to hide imperfections, and
> the self leveling polyurathane sprays great .
> I will not be able to fly her to Airventure, as I will not have the 40 hrs
> flow off of her yet. But I am thinking of trailering her there.
> Tim
> KR2  N7038V
>

KR> Gathering - only 76 days away.

[Timothy Bellville]

- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering - only 76 days away.


> Do I detect a Fellow Marine?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Gathering - only 76 days away.
> 
> 
> > ORRAAHH!! 
> >  
> > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
> > building has long since expired."
> >  
> > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
> >  
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KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?

[Timothy Bellville]

I used A Great planes gear spring, they are just as good at half the
price.you will still have to fab. your own mounting brackets, but that is no
big deal . just use 6"x8"x4"wide 1/2"thick 6061 Angle stock mounted to the
forward of the spar(x3). you have to use doublers 3/8"thick to clear the
crossmember that is in front of the spar.
send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a few pics. of my instalation.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Duncan" 
To: "krnet" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?


> Hi,
> I am getting to the point where I'm about to mail my cheque for the KR2S
> plans, and just want to double-check with you about some things.
>
> First, R/R list prices for all sorts of prefabricated bits.  If cost were
> not a factor I'd buy the lot.  I have no desire to be a hero and make
every
> single part if I don't have to.  But the reality is that I need to add 50%
> to all USD prices and then add freight as well as local GST.  Costs mount
> up pretty quickly when one does that.  So I plan to buy what I have to,
and
> make the rest if I can.  In your opinion, which prefabricated parts are
> more desirable than others, or which ones are just not worth the hassle of
> making oneself?  A realistic compromise is what I'm looking for.
>
> A related question:
> I noticed that the KR2S spruce kit prices at Wicks and AircraftSpruce both
> differ from each other and (quite markedly) from the price quoted by
> R/R.  What's up with this?  Is there an essential difference?  Who do I
buy
> this from, and exactly what do I need to buy?
>
> Finally, the one-piece Grove gear looks simple enough.  Has anyone bent
> their own 2024-T6 gear to the Grove specs?
>
> Regards,
> Duncan
>
>
>
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KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?

[Timothy Bellville]

Duncan, sorry I just noticed that I have your email address, I'll send them
as soon as I dig them out of the photo alb. .
In the mean time, you can see my bird
athttp://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/KR-2_Bellville.asp
Tim

- Original Message - 
From: "Duncan" 
To: "krnet" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?


> Hi,
> I am getting to the point where I'm about to mail my cheque for the KR2S
> plans, and just want to double-check with you about some things.
>
> First, R/R list prices for all sorts of prefabricated bits.  If cost were
> not a factor I'd buy the lot.  I have no desire to be a hero and make
every
> single part if I don't have to.  But the reality is that I need to add 50%
> to all USD prices and then add freight as well as local GST.  Costs mount
> up pretty quickly when one does that.  So I plan to buy what I have to,
and
> make the rest if I can.  In your opinion, which prefabricated parts are
> more desirable than others, or which ones are just not worth the hassle of
> making oneself?  A realistic compromise is what I'm looking for.
>
> A related question:
> I noticed that the KR2S spruce kit prices at Wicks and AircraftSpruce both
> differ from each other and (quite markedly) from the price quoted by
> R/R.  What's up with this?  Is there an essential difference?  Who do I
buy
> this from, and exactly what do I need to buy?
>
> Finally, the one-piece Grove gear looks simple enough.  Has anyone bent
> their own 2024-T6 gear to the Grove specs?
>
> Regards,
> Duncan
>
>
>
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KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?

[Timothy Bellville]

- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?


> Duncan, sorry I just noticed that I have your email address, I'll send
them
> as soon as I dig them out of the photo alb. .
> In the mean time, you can see my bird
> at http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/KR-2_Bellville.asp
> Tim
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Duncan" <k...@chalksoft.com>
> To: "krnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: KR> Prefab bits vs self manufactured?
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I am getting to the point where I'm about to mail my cheque for the KR2S
> > plans, and just want to double-check with you about some things.
> >
> > First, R/R list prices for all sorts of prefabricated bits.  If cost
were
> > not a factor I'd buy the lot.  I have no desire to be a hero and make
> every
> > single part if I don't have to.  But the reality is that I need to add
50%
> > to all USD prices and then add freight as well as local GST.  Costs
mount
> > up pretty quickly when one does that.  So I plan to buy what I have to,
> and
> > make the rest if I can.  In your opinion, which prefabricated parts are
> > more desirable than others, or which ones are just not worth the hassle
of
> > making oneself?  A realistic compromise is what I'm looking for.
> >
> > A related question:
> > I noticed that the KR2S spruce kit prices at Wicks and AircraftSpruce
both
> > differ from each other and (quite markedly) from the price quoted by
> > R/R.  What's up with this?  Is there an essential difference?  Who do I
> buy
> > this from, and exactly what do I need to buy?
> >
> > Finally, the one-piece Grove gear looks simple enough.  Has anyone bent
> > their own 2024-T6 gear to the Grove specs?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Duncan
> >
> >
> >
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KR> KR Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi James,
They said that they may set by themselves to a satisfactory condition, but
may not. I put her out in to the sun again today just to see how bad it is
,and I am reasured that there wasen't as many today. but I will decide what
too do on sunday after she sits outside all day in the sun. If there are
only a few areas that are bad, I'll fix them and just plan on repainting the
intire plane this fall.
If this is the case please be kind with your evulation of her. I can hide
alot of the defects with the placards,but not all of them.
BTW The manager of the dead letter office in Atlanta is still trying to
locate all the parts, I am very disgusted with them at this point.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "James R Freeman" <jrfree...@highland.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Paint


> Tim:
> Sorry to hear about the paint job. I wanted to see some pics of the
> silver KR. Did the Polyfiber people say if a second coat would work?
>     Jim
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:16 AM
> Subject: KR> KR Paint
>
>
> > Well Guys , I am very depressed with what happened today. It was about
one
> > week ago that I shot the finel coats of paint on my KR fusalage, and
today
> I
> > decided to finish the wing outer panels . I pulled the fusalage out in
to
> > the yard to clear the shop for the wings , in to 85 deg. direct
sunlight.
> > after shooting the last coat on the wing, I went out to play with the
> > engine, and discovered to my dismay, that I had  bubbles under the new
> paint
> > in several areas.
> > After talking to the folks at polyfiber, they said that I had solvent
> > outgassing from the primer.Now I will admit that I was some what relived
> > that it wasen't delaminating of the fiberglass,I still have a crappy
paint
> > job now.
> > They also said that I picked just about the hardest paint to
shoot(Navada
> > Silver), for a novice painter(Me).
> > So after wasting $250 on silver paint I guess I should conform to
everyone
> > else and paint it white.
> > I was not completly happy with the paint job before the bubbles now I'm
> > disgusted with it. I do love the color,but I doubt I have the experence
to
> > get it to look right.
> > I do not know if I will be ready for Airventure.
> > Damn, looks like I'm driving again.
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
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KR> KR Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks for the vote of confidence, The more I look at her I still am
disgusted with myself but I hope to salvage this paint job for this season
at least.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: KR> KR Paint


> Don't feel too bad.  It is probably not as bad as you think.  All the prep
> work before you paint is what takes a long time.  You may be able to fix
it
> easier than it looks right now.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Timothy Bellville
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:26 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Paint
>
>
> Thanks Peter,
> After sleeping on it I still don't feel much better about it, but I still
> think I should go with the white.The guy from poly fiber said I should
wait
> a week before sanding the bad areas down and re coating,he also sugested
not
> repriming the silver.
> I have been thinking that maybe I need to put her back in the sun to" Bake
"
> her again and identify the bad areas, then trim out the bubble with a
razor
> knife to release the trapped solvent and remove the loose paint.I think
this
> would allow me to feather edge the damaged areas without disturbing the
good
> paint to much.
> It will take about three days to get the new paint from aircraft
spruce,and
> for my next weekend off to paint it.
> God I hate waisting money and time.
> Thanks
> Tim
> - Original Message -
> From: "StRaNgEdAyS" <stranged...@dodo.com.au>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Paint
>
>
> > Hey there Tim.
> >
> > Don't loose heart.
> > I remember making some horrible mess ups when I started painting cars
and
> > bikes back in the late '80s. One job I totally stuffed up in '96 even
> after
> > a lot of practice was a tank on one of my bikes. That was layering clear
> red
> > tinter over flat white to get a deep blood red effect, but I did exactly
> the
> > same thing you did, and failed to wait until the solvent had completely
> gone
> > from the basecoat before I layered up 5 coats of clear red. It looked
> > absolutely scary!
> > Paint up a few pieces of scrap and get the hang of it. I'm no
professional
> > painter, but after doing a few practice pieces after even an 8 year
break
> > from painting as I have had now, I can manage a reasonable job.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Peter Bancks.
> > stranged...@dodo.com.au
> > http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com
> > http://canardaviationforum.dmt.net
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KR> Cockpit fresh air supply

[Timothy Bellville]

I have two small Naca ducts in my canopy frame that work great,I control the
air flow on the inside with twist vents.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit fresh air supply


> Well, I guess I will reply to myself.
>
> I think you could put a NACA duct on the side of the fuselage up near the
> firewall and run a hose to the instrument panel were you would put those
> neat little thingys, or it might be better to bring the air in from the
> cowling and route through the firewall. Although, there may really be a
> better thingy than those thingys, but I am not really sure what it might
be.
> And going through the firewall has it's advantages and disadvantages, but
I
> really don't know what those might be as I have never done that before.
Well
>  I know one thing, putting a NACA scoop on the pilot end of the fuselage
> doesn't work, so I guess you should not do that.
>
> And if that does not clear it up, just let me know and I will explain it
> another way.
>
> "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
> building has long since expired."
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>
>
>
> ---Original Message---
>
>
>
> From: KRnet
>
> Date: 07/02/04 18:32:13
>
> To: kr...@mylist.net
>
> Subject: KR> Cockpit fresh air supply
>
>
>
> No, not hot air, I have plenty of that. How are you, who have gotten to
that
>
> point, doing your fresh air supply for the cockpit. I was going to use
snap
>
> vents in the side of the fuselage, but, have decided that the uncovered
part
>
> of the hole is too large. I am thinking of those little swivel things like
>
> they have on the airliners or something like that.
>
>
>
> I am interested in everything from the intake to the outlet.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
>
> building has long since expired."
>
>
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
>
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
>
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> KR Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Well Guys , I am very depressed with what happened today. It was about one
week ago that I shot the finel coats of paint on my KR fusalage, and today I
decided to finish the wing outer panels . I pulled the fusalage out in to
the yard to clear the shop for the wings , in to 85 deg. direct sunlight.
after shooting the last coat on the wing, I went out to play with the
engine, and discovered to my dismay, that I had  bubbles under the new paint
in several areas.
After talking to the folks at polyfiber, they said that I had solvent
outgassing from the primer.Now I will admit that I was some what relived
that it wasen't delaminating of the fiberglass,I still have a crappy paint
job now.
They also said that I picked just about the hardest paint to shoot(Navada
Silver), for a novice painter(Me).
So after wasting $250 on silver paint I guess I should conform to everyone
else and paint it white.
I was not completly happy with the paint job before the bubbles now I'm
disgusted with it. I do love the color,but I doubt I have the experence to
get it to look right.
I do not know if I will be ready for Airventure.
Damn, looks like I'm driving again.
Tim

KR> KR Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Peter,
After sleeping on it I still don't feel much better about it, but I still
think I should go with the white.The guy from poly fiber said I should wait
a week before sanding the bad areas down and re coating,he also sugested not
repriming the silver.
I have been thinking that maybe I need to put her back in the sun to" Bake "
her again and identify the bad areas, then trim out the bubble with a razor
knife to release the trapped solvent and remove the loose paint.I think this
would allow me to feather edge the damaged areas without disturbing the good
paint to much.
It will take about three days to get the new paint from aircraft spruce,and
for my next weekend off to paint it.
God I hate waisting money and time.
Thanks
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "StRaNgEdAyS" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Paint


> Hey there Tim.
>
> Don't loose heart.
> I remember making some horrible mess ups when I started painting cars and
> bikes back in the late '80s. One job I totally stuffed up in '96 even
after
> a lot of practice was a tank on one of my bikes. That was layering clear
red
> tinter over flat white to get a deep blood red effect, but I did exactly
the
> same thing you did, and failed to wait until the solvent had completely
gone
> from the basecoat before I layered up 5 coats of clear red. It looked
> absolutely scary!
> Paint up a few pieces of scrap and get the hang of it. I'm no professional
> painter, but after doing a few practice pieces after even an 8 year break
> from painting as I have had now, I can manage a reasonable job.
>
> Cheers.
> Peter Bancks.
> stranged...@dodo.com.au
> http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com
> http://canardaviationforum.dmt.net
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KR> Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Well guys I got the fusalage painted today, she is drying as of right now, I
have two areas that I need to redo because of runs but other then that it
doesnt look that bad.
I am here to tell you that silver paint is very hard to shoot, and only with
an HVLP gun of good quality.
Two gal. of paint are enough to finish a KR2, if you don't make too many
mistakes.
I used Polyfiber enamel,Nevada silver.
When you see her at airventure please be kind on your evauation of her, I am
not a pro painter, but she looks nice enough to fly around for awile.
Tim

KR> Paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Mark,
I'm going to be there from the 24th to the 29th.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Paint


> Tim,
> What days are you going to be at Airventure?. Also, there is a KR forum on
> Tuesday July 27th. at 11:30 am.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 3:37 PM
> Subject: KR> Paint
>
>
> > Well guys I got the fusalage painted today, she is drying as of right
now,
> I
> > have two areas that I need to redo because of runs but other then that
it
> > doesnt look that bad.
> > I am here to tell you that silver paint is very hard to shoot, and only
> with
> > an HVLP gun of good quality.
> > Two gal. of paint are enough to finish a KR2, if you don't make too many
> > mistakes.
> > I used Polyfiber enamel,Nevada silver.
> > When you see her at airventure please be kind on your evauation of her,
I
> am
> > not a pro painter, but she looks nice enough to fly around for awile.
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
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KR> KR paint job

[Timothy Bellville]

Well guys, in between rain storms and overtime at work, I am finaly ready to
shoot the top coats on my bird.I am still using Stits Navada silver.
Now before I get flooded with e-mail, I did a test for radio interference.
Now I know that this is not a very accurate way to test it but I sprayed two
coats of paint on a cardborad box, and transmitted to an aircraft in flight
from underneath it, I belive this would simulate any interference form the
paint. I am also using a canopy mounted ant.
I have finished wet sanding the entire airframe and finding areas to spot
puddy, I will apply a sealer coat before the paint.
 My plan is to camp with my plane at airventure this year, is anyone else
going to do this?
Tim
KR2  N7038V

KR> Re: Simple things

[Timothy Bellville]

I agree Brian,and I am in the process of doing it myself.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Re: Simple things


> I should just keep my mouth shut, but I will open it anyway for the
benefit
> of those that have not preped the top of their planes for paint yet.
>
> There are a few good reasons for painting the bottom first.
>
> 1.  You get practice on a side no one will see.
>
> 2.  If you ding a painted surface while flipping the plane it will be a
> surface no one will see.
>
> 3.  You will have to mask the entire top side when you pain the bottom if
> you do the top first.  If you do the bottom first you can get away without
> masking it when you do the top.
>
> Don't mean to say you are doing something wrong, just giving my philosophy
> after painting one already.
>
> Keep in mind that you will have so much fun flying that you will wish you
> let al of the little imperfections go and started flying months sooner.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Dan Heath
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:13 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Re: Simple things
>
>
> Simple things do take much longer than expected. I thought that I was
going
> to paint the exterior (right side up) of the plane today. Instead, I spent
> all day, 9 am to 6pm, just now finished, with a lunch break, just getting
it
> ready for paint.
>
> However, everything, even the paint being stirred, is ready for tomorrow.
I
> had hoped to get the wings also, this long weekend, but probably will only
> get one side of them and do the other side during the week.
>
> Jerry and I are planning to turn it over on it's back next weekend for
> painting the bottom, finishing the interior and doing most of the wiring
and
> plumbing. But, who knows, it may be July and  NOT.
>
> As I go over the plane, especially when I washed with the pre-painting
> cleaner, I see little imperfections and my instinct is to fix them, so, I
> just start humming my mantra
>
>
>
> "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
> building has long since expired."
>
>
>
> and all is well again.
>
>
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
>
>
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>
> See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
>
>
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KR> Alternator

[Timothy Bellville]

Try a Chevy sprint or Geo alt for the 3 cycl. engine. it is 50 amp and just
about as small as the get on a car.
I use a Kabouta dynamo, with a Harly Davidson reg. on a volkspower case and
driven by a modified gland nut/pully.
I use a Rotax starter now, but when it fries I'll go with a subarue starter
and adapt. plate. My batt. is a Dry cell for jet skis .
I have a strobe, Radio, DG,fuel ,hobbs ,fuel boost pump and primary ignition
driven off this set up and I still have about 6 amps to spare.
Do the math on your amp load ,you may not need all that power.
I have used this set up on two aircraft with no problems.
Tim
KR2 N7038V

- Original Message - 
From: "Wood, Sidney M." 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Alternator


> www.aeroelectric.com/articles.html has lots of excellent advice on
experimental electrical considerations.
> Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD
> sidney.w...@titan.com
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]  On
Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:48 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Alternator
>
> Netters
> I have searched the archives but no one really had any concrete uses of
alternators, beyond some suggestions of what might be used.  I am looking
for information about supplementing and or replacing the Diehl alternator
due to the electrical requirements that I have for full electrics,
especially for night flying.  I do not believe the 20 amp output is going to
keep up and want to go with an automotive type alternator that can deliver
more along the lines of 45 - 60 amp output.  Any suggestions by any who are
using them, actual applications.  I have the common Type I VW with Diehl
case, and pretty stock cowling.
>
> Colin & Bev Rainey
> KR2(td) N96TA
> Sanford, FL
> crain...@cfl.rr.com
> http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html
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KR> Oshkosh 2004

[Timothy Bellville]

I am ,come hell or high water
Tim
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "cgardn628" 
To: "KR NET" 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:33 PM
Subject: KR> Oshkosh 2004


> Who is considering attending Oshkosh 2004 with their KR ?
>
> Two KR's from Canada will be there ( again ) this year and I'm wondering
who will join us . Apparently , the EAA stat's say that 5 attended but I
only counted 3 last year .
>
> Hope we will have better showing this year in the "Auto engine conversion
area .
>
> Jim , are you going ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris Gardiner
> C-GKRZ
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KR>Transponder

[Timothy Bellville]

Can anyone tell me if I need a transponder in my KR2 due to the fact that it
has a battery ignition and some elec. instruments and strobe?
Thanks
Tim

KR>Transponder

[Timothy Bellville]

Wow I sure got a full range of opinions on this subject. I guess I should
call a FSS to get the feds to tell me what the truth is about it. I only ask
this becuase I heard of a rule change that may have effected us that have
two seat homebuilts. I am inclined to go along with the old rules, but I
know that we are subject to the wims of the homeland security act, and there
may have been some new rules.
Thanks for everyones imput
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Ross Youngblood" <ross...@operamail.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Transponder


> I don't believe you need a transponder unless you fly within a
> Mode C veil or are flying through class Bravo airspace...
> (I could have my regs out of date however...)
> You can make arrangements to fly through these areas without
> a transponder I think, but it's a special case...
>
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:11:56 -0500, Timothy Bellville
> <soner...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me if I need a transponder in my KR2 due to the fact
> > that it
> > has a battery ignition and some elec. instruments and strobe?
> > Thanks
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
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KR>Sanding and lovin it

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks for all the info guys, but I get the impression that I've led you
astray about the finish on my bird, It was not about pinholes as much as it
was about wavyness of the layups, like when you look down the beam of the
wings there is some wavy countoures to it, they were all hand layed up
panels and I will never be able to match the finish of a vaccuum bag part.
  And I have used that bondo spot puddy for years, and it does work
great,but needs to be primed over. I have saved about 1/2 gal of primer for
this.
Thanks again guys.
Now please when you see her at a fly in or airshow don't judge her too
harsly on the finish,but be glad that there is another added to the flying
ranks.
Tim
KR2 N7038V











- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it


> Tim,
> You can get a perfect finish with very little trouble and NO pin
holes.
> You are now at the stage where you need to do the following. Just get a
tube
> of bondo (it comes like a tube of tooth paste).  Use your index finger and
> go over the entire aircraft and wipe a finger of Bondo on each and every
> hole you find.  Keep the tube when you are finished to use for minor
repairs
> later.  When you are finshed with this first step your aircraft will look
> like it has the measles.  Then sand with a fine grit paper and paint.
Years
> ago when I built a KR-2, this is what I did and the aircraft won first
prize
> in the composit division, Chino airport, at the 1977 Fly-in and air show,
> Chino, California.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it
>
>
> > Gee Guys,
> > You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish.
> > After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I
> will
> > never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command
decision
> > to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I
> > want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt.
> with
> > fillers.
> > I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs.
empty(before
> > finish paint).
> > Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data
plate
> > from raw stock?
> > Or do you have to use an approved plate?
> > Thanks
> > TIM
> > KR2  N7038V
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
> > To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real
> priming
> > and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that
you
> > will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the
real
> > work begins.
> >
> > The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that,
> if
> > you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop
> sanding,
> > look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again.
> >
> > Ain't it fun?
> >
> > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> >
> > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> >
> > da...@kr-builder.org
> >
> > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
> >
> > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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KR>Sanding and lovin it

[Timothy Bellville]

Gee Guys,
You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish.
After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I will
never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command decision
to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I
want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt. with
fillers.
I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs. empty(before
finish paint).
Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data plate
from raw stock?
Or do you have to use an approved plate?
Thanks
TIM
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it


Joe,

My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real priming
and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that you
will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the real
work begins.

The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, if
you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop sanding,
look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again.

Ain't it fun?

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering

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KR>Folding Wing

[Timothy Bellville]

Larry I can install them in one week, I'd like to have a look at what you
have. I have worked on folding wings before with my Sonerai.
My Kr2is finished but I havent painted it yet so now would be a perfect itme
to do this.
Thanks
Tim Bellville
418 Whittemore st.
Toledo, Ohio
43605
(419)693-8104
- Original Message - 
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Folding Wing


> I am interested in the plans. I can install them in 30 days, I think.
>
> At 03:58 PM 2/3/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >  Let some one other than me hold a raffle and after two weeks from when
> >the raffle is announced on this KR site hold a drawing, the winner
> >person gets a set of plans FREE. These plans are drawn on a CAD
> >computer.  The winner must  agree to construct and install on
> > a KR airplane and do it with in 30 days from the time he/she receive
> >the plans and report to this list.  Report good or bad.  I will donate
> >one set of plans. These plans are copyrighted. and cannot legally be
> >copied.
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
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KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts

[Timothy Bellville]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Timothy Bellville 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:39 AM
  Subject: EAA Homebuilts


  For those that would like to see my KR2, go to EAA.org, and look under the 
centinenial Hombuilts.
  There are three KR's so far on this site.
  She is only in primer but will be silver when the testing is done.
  Tim Bellville
  N7038V
  Toledo Ohio

KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Dan,
I'm going to try to make it,and to airventure as well. Just waiting for the
weather to get better to take her to the airport.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts


http://eaa.org/homebuilders/list/KR-2_Bellville.asp#TopOfPage

A more quick way to get there.

Tim, it looks nice.  See you in Mt. Vernon?

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering

See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org

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From: KRnet
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:29:34 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts

   - Original Message -
   From: Timothy Bellville
   To: kr...@mylist.net
   Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:39 AM
   Subject: EAA Homebuilts


   For those that would like to see my KR2, go to EAA.org, and look under
the centinenial Hombuilts.
   There are three KR's so far on this site.
   She is only in primer but will be silver when the testing is done.
   Tim Bellville
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KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Kevin,
I have a few people that want to give her the once over.
I'd like so see your project some time, Bluffton is a nice sunday drive from
here.
I use to land there all the time when I was a student pilot.
tim
- Original Message - 
From: "kevin" <mi...@wcoil.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Re: EAA Homebuilts


> Hi Tim ,,
>
>  Did you find someone to test fly your kr2 yet. I am only 50. miles south
> of you in bluffton ohio . Let me know , as i need some testing yet also.
> Thanks KevinAt 08:29 PM 1/23/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >  - Original Message - 
> >  From: Timothy Bellville
> >  To: kr...@mylist.net
> >  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:39 AM
> >  Subject: EAA Homebuilts
> >
> >
> >  For those that would like to see my KR2, go to EAA.org, and look under
> the centinenial Hombuilts.
> >  There are three KR's so far on this site.
> >  She is only in primer but will be silver when the testing is done.
> >  Tim Bellville
> >  N7038V
> >  Toledo Ohio___
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KR>Aviation Mech.

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Orma, 
Could you please contact me off list, or give me your Phone number again, I'm 
still rebuilding my address book on this new computer and lost all the data 
from my old one.
Thanks
Tim

KR>tailwheel

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Oscar,
I have one of those wheels on my work bench, I didn,t use it becuase I
thought it would be too heavy, but I do want good gound handling. So I'll
take you up on your specs.
I got it when I still had retracts, but now I have fixed fusalage mounted
gear and my angle of attack is much greater now. I would like to get the
nose down a little.
Do you know what the increse in moment is?
Thanks
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Oscar Zuniga" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: KR>tailwheel


> Howdy, netters;
>
> I thought I posted this a day or two ago but it never showed up (I think).
> If it did- sorry for the repeat.  If not- here it is again:  I have a 6"
> semi-pneumatic tailwheel on my M-19 "Flying Squirrel" (not yet flown).
> 'Semi-pneumatic'  means that the tire is hollow but doesn't have a valve
> stem for filling.  It relies on the tire compound stiffness for shock
> absorption.  Pictures are the last two at
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/gear/gear.html and the tire is a standard
> catalogued item from W.W. Grainger.   (I believe it's the $25 unit at
>
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi=1611763914=
> ).  The tailspring is the Aircraft Spruce "homebuilder" single-leaf,
> modified to receive the pivot which is welded on.
>
> I have the unit in my garage so if anyone is interested in the axle
> dimensions, weights, or other details- let me know and I'll get that.  In
> the meantime, I stand ready to box this up and ship it to any KRNetter who
> is flying or taxi testing and is interested in trying it out.  No charge.
I
> will point out that going to a larger diameter tailwheel will have a
slight
> effect on your landing configuration and speed if you have a taildragger,
> because you won't be able to get as much angle of attack on the wing while
> on the ground.  Probably not a factor, but a consideration.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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KR>tailwheel with picture

[Timothy Bellville]

> Hi Oscar,
> I have one of those wheels on my work bench, I didn,t use it becuase I
> thought it would be too heavy, but I do want good gound handling. So I'll
> take you up on your specs.
> I got it when I still had retracts, but now I have fixed fusalage mounted
> gear and my angle of attack is much greater now. I would like to get the
> nose down a little.
> Do you know what the increse in moment is?
> Thanks
> Tim
> KR2  N7038V
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Oscar Zuniga" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:07 PM
> Subject: KR>tailwheel
>
>
> > Howdy, netters;
> >
> > I thought I posted this a day or two ago but it never showed up (I
think).
> > If it did- sorry for the repeat.  If not- here it is again:  I have a 6"
> > semi-pneumatic tailwheel on my M-19 "Flying Squirrel" (not yet flown).
> > 'Semi-pneumatic'  means that the tire is hollow but doesn't have a valve
> > stem for filling.  It relies on the tire compound stiffness for shock
> > absorption.  Pictures are the last two at
> > http://www.flysquirrel.net/gear/gear.html and the tire is a standard
> > catalogued item from W.W. Grainger.   (I believe it's the $25 unit at
> >
>
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi=1611763914=
> > ).  The tailspring is the Aircraft Spruce "homebuilder" single-leaf,
> > modified to receive the pivot which is welded on.
> >
> > I have the unit in my garage so if anyone is interested in the axle
> > dimensions, weights, or other details- let me know and I'll get that.
In
> > the meantime, I stand ready to box this up and ship it to any KRNetter
who
> > is flying or taxi testing and is interested in trying it out.  No
charge.
> I
> > will point out that going to a larger diameter tailwheel will have a
> slight
> > effect on your landing configuration and speed if you have a
taildragger,
> > because you won't be able to get as much angle of attack on the wing
while
> > on the ground.  Probably not a factor, but a consideration.
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> > _
> > Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House &
Home.
> > http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx
> >
> >
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>

KR>Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

I'm sorry they are spoken for.
- Original Message - 
From: <intrepid...@juno.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Brakes


> 
>   Hi, Tim ...
> 
>   If no one has beaten me to these gear assemblies, 
>   I'd like to buy them.
> 
>   Thanks!
>   a r t
> 
>   A. F. Cacella 
>   679 Sunset Drive, Waughtown Station
>   Winston-Salem, NC  27107-9422
> 
>   Tel: 336-785-1950
>   e-dress: aerofa...@juno.com
> 
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:35:04 -0500 "Timothy Bellville"
> <soner...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> > I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I 
> > will part with for $40.00
> > (that should just about cover crating and shipping)
> > I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the spring 
> > bar(had to cut it to remove it)
> > Tim
> > KR2 N7038V___
> > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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KR>(Sorry)test

[Timothy Bellville]

Sorry guys , this is a test

KR>Hughs glue

[Timothy Bellville]

Sorry about that test Guys, new computer!

Anyway , I have a KR2 that was assembled with hughs glue and some T-88, not to 
mention all the layups with west system epoxy.
Here is what I'm worried about, does anyone see any problems with these glues 
in cold weather? Not in applying them but ,but in using the plane in fridged 
weather.
Do the joints become brittle with cold? 
Till now , it has always been in a heated shop, but now it sits in whatever the 
outside temp is, and I am worried that I may be stressing critical joints in 
the airframe.

BTW I found a print shop here in Toledo the will make any vinel lettering or 
logo for a very reasonable price.

Tim
KR2  N7038V

KR>Flares

[Timothy Bellville]

HI Orma,
still want to test fly this thing for me? It's in primer now and I'm still
tring to work out getting it painted.
I'm still going with the silver, and I'm going to try a "Snake" antenne from
A/S.
I just wired up a neat little intercom that is to be hard wired to the fuse
block.
If That antenne doesn't work then I'll go with a turtledeck mounted whip.
Tim
KR2  N7038V



- Original Message - 
From: "Orma Robbins" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Flares


> Not flairing in a KR is like playing Leep Frog
> Orma aka AviationMech
> 19 Years flying the KR-2
>
>
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KR>Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

I went with "GRedies" wheels and brakes, they are duel piston and work very
well, very in expensive compared to clevelands. I used some piper master
cyc. that I found at the fly market at oshkosh.
Wicks sell them in a set for about $150.00
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Gavin Donohoe" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:03 PM
Subject: KR>Brakes


Hi All,

Can anybody share with me their successes with drum cable operated brakes
such as the Azuza?? compared to disk hydraulic callipers.

Seems the drums are a lot less expensive and just as easy   to install,
though I'm not sure how efficient they are.
I'm planning on using 6" wheels and a tri gear.

Gavin
Australia


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KR>Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I will part 
with for $40.00
(that should just about cover crating and shipping)
I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the spring bar(had to 
cut it to remove it)
Tim
KR2 N7038V

KR>Brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

No I'm sorry Jim I don't
A check would be fine,
Give me your address and i'll send them to you.

Timothy Bellville
418  Whittemore  St.
Toledo  , Ohio
43605
- Original Message - 
From: "James R Freeman" <jrfree...@highland.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Brakes


> Tim:
> I would love to have them. I am located in S.E. KY. Not too far from
> Dana. Do You have a PayPal account?
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:35 PM
> Subject: KR>Brakes
>
>
> I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I will
> part with for $40.00
> (that should just about cover crating and shipping)
> I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the spring
bar(had
> to cut it to remove it)
> Tim
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>
>
>
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KR>Wright brothers

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi everyone,
I would like to tell you how my family and I spent this Blessed day, first
we spent the morning at the Air Force Museum  on Wright -Patterson, and saw
all of the fantastic aircraft on display. It truly is worth the trip.
Everytime I visit,it feels like I am walking on hallowed ground.
Then we went to the memoral on the hill ,over looking the site of the
brothers first hanger and flying field. This too was a walk in the presence
of greatness.
But to truly make this a speciel day ,I felt that we needed to pay our
respects to the Bishop's Boys in person.
There was more then a few wreaths and flowers on the family marker , and we
said a few words of thanks for the sacrifices and achivements that they
made.
I was disaponted not being able to attened the recreation at Kill devil
hills,but spending the day at aviations birthplace and with the fathers of
all, was just as special .

Tim
KR2 N3038V
Toledo Ohio

KR>Re: KR Radios

[Timothy Bellville]

Does anyone have the address or phone number/web adderess for , RST
electronics?
Thanks
Tim

KR>Re: KR Radios

[Timothy Bellville]

Wow,what a great place the KRnet is ,thanks for all the help guys,I just
down loaded every thing I needed from the web site.
Thanks again.
Tim
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: KR>Re: KR Radios


>
>
>
> Does anyone have the address or phone number/web adderess for , RST
> electronics?
> Thanks
> Tim
>
>
>
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>

KR>Wheels and stuff

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Steve,
Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.)
And I'll go in to great detail on my conversion.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "Steve and Lori McGee" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM
Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff


Hey there netters.  I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for the KR2s
that I can make my own with.  Also the rim, brake disc and mounting bracket
with axle.I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no way
to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple hundred
bucks worth of stuff.  The same type goods on any other vehicle would be
priced much much less.  So if you have a junk one laying around and are
anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out.  The one
relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so maybe we could
get a group run going.  Any one???

Safe Flying to ya!
Steve McGee
Endeavor Wi.
Building a KR2S widened.
lmc...@maqs.net


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KR>Wheels and stuff

[Timothy Bellville]

Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till Thursday(2-10)
I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up load any from my
camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop
Also give me your number in case I miss you and I'll call you back.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "Steve and Lori McGee" <lmc...@maqs.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff


> Weekends only or anytime?  Got any pics?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM
> Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff
>
>
> > Hi Steve,
> > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.)
> > And I'll go in to great detail on my conversion.
> > Tim
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" <lmc...@maqs.net>
> > To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM
> > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff
> >
> >
> > Hey there netters.  I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for the
KR2s
> > that I can make my own with.  Also the rim, brake disc and mounting
> bracket
> > with axle.I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no
> way
> > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple hundred
> > bucks worth of stuff.  The same type goods on any other vehicle would be
> > priced much much less.  So if you have a junk one laying around and are
> > anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out.  The
one
> > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so maybe we
> could
> > get a group run going.  Any one???
> >
> > Safe Flying to ya!
> > Steve McGee
> > Endeavor Wi.
> > Building a KR2S widened.
> > lmc...@maqs.net
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ___
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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KR>Wheels and stuff

[Timothy Bellville]

Also Steve , since you are asking, I may be able to send you the 3 angle
brackets to mount the spring gear ((6"x8"x 4"x1/2"  2024 t3) to your spar.
you will need to drill the holes and clean up the rough edges but will save
you time. I may have enough stock left over to cut 3, 41/2" brackets out of
. 
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff


> Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till Thursday(2-10)
> I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up load any from my
> camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop
> Also give me your number in case I miss you and I'll call you back.
> Tim
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve and Lori McGee" <lmc...@maqs.net>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff
>
>
> > Weekends only or anytime?  Got any pics?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff
> >
> >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.)
> > > And I'll go in to great detail on my conversion.
> > > Tim
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" <lmc...@maqs.net>
> > > To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM
> > > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey there netters.  I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for the
> KR2s
> > > that I can make my own with.  Also the rim, brake disc and mounting
> > bracket
> > > with axle.I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in
no
> > way
> > > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple
hundred
> > > bucks worth of stuff.  The same type goods on any other vehicle would
be
> > > priced much much less.  So if you have a junk one laying around and
are
> > > anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out.  The
> one
> > > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so maybe we
> > could
> > > get a group run going.  Any one???
> > >
> > > Safe Flying to ya!
> > > Steve McGee
> > > Endeavor Wi.
> > > Building a KR2S widened.
> > > lmc...@maqs.net
> > >
> > >
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KR>KR;radios

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Netters,
well after kicking around the problems of using aluminum pigmented paint. I 
have a new question.
Having decided to use the silver paint scheme now I have to address the best 
location and installations of the antennas for the nav /com handheld and elt.
As for the ELT , I decided to install it on the back of the "package tray" and 
extend threw the turtle deck a few inches, insulated by a rubber grommet.
I would like to do this with the comm. antenna as well. mounted a few inches in 
front of the ELT antenna, with both on the center line.
Does anyone see a problem?I would like to keep drag to a min.
Thanks
Tim
KR2  N7038V

KR>Antennas

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Jim,
I believe you are correct in all of your assumptions. and have confirmed
with "Poly fiber" that it will indeed interfere with radio  transmissions.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "JIM VANCE" 
To: "krnet" 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: KR>Antennas


Tim,

I have two points.  First, the ELT will transmit on 121.5 Mhz, right in the
middle of your comm frequencies.  When the antennas are in close proximity,
it will send an extremely high level of power into the receiver.  That might
fry it.  The solution is to keep the ELT and comm antennas as far apart as
is possible.

Secondly,  90% of the signal is transmitted in the part of the antenna
nearest the feedpoint.  The top half of the antenna is there to make it
resonant, but radiates only about 10% of the signal.  If you in effect have
the majority of the antenna shielded, then your signal will bounce around
the inside of the plane like inside a microwave oven.

Have you thought about imbedding the antennas into the canopy?  It might not
be vertical polarization, but at least it would radiate outside the plane.
Just a thought.

Jim Vance

va...@claflinwildcats.com
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KR>Intercom & headsets for sale

[Timothy Bellville]

Do you still have them Bob?
I am interested.
Tim Bellville
Toledo , Ohio
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: KR>Intercom & headsets for sale


> I have the following items for sale;
>
> 1 - RST - 442, 2 PLACE PORTABLE INTERCOM
> 2 - RST - 455, 2 to 4 PLACE PORTABLE INTERCOM UPGRADE
> 1 - PUSH TO TALK SWITCH
> 2 - TELEX   D-950 HEADSETS WITH BOOM MIKES   (one mike needs repair)
>
> I bought the kits from RST and assembled them. Then I sent them back to
RST
> and had them bench checked, and they work fine. You can get details at
> rstengineering.com . The intercom can be used as a 2 place or as a 4
place.
>
> I am asking $70 for everything and includes shipping in the U.S.
>
> Bob McDonough
> waldo...@aol.com
> 3308 NW 38th St.
> Gainesville, FL 32606
> Ph 352 379 3144
>
>
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KR>Fw: Revmaster oil

[Timothy Bellville]

I too use that oil Jim, both in my Sonerai and the KR, no problems.
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Faughn" 
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil


> I use Valvoline (sp?) Durablend. It is a partial Synthetic and when I
> started using it, I found my oil temp dropped 10 degrees. I went to it
> because it provided a higher breakdown temp than typical oil and was
> reasonably priced although for 4 quarts of oil, who cares what it
> costs
> 
> Jim
> 
> Jim Faughn 
> 4323D Laclede Ave.
> St. Louis, MO 63108
> (314)652-7659
> Email - sub @ for "at" jfaughn "at" socket.net
> Web Site  http://jfaughn.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of Dan Heath
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:29 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil
> 
> 
> Is Amsoil a synthetic?  I understand that synthetics do not do well in
> air and oil cooled engines because they do not transfer as much heat as
> regular oil. 
> 
>  
> 
> N64KR
> 
>  
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> 
>  
> 
> da...@kr-builder.org
> 
>  
> 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
> 
>  
> 
> See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
> 
> See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
> 
>  
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
>  
> 
> From: KR builders and pilots
> 
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:29:18 PM
> 
> To: macw...@tinyworld.co.uk; kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil
> 
>  
> 
>  Amsoil is slicker and will keep down temps better than petrolem
> 
> oils. Keeps engine from getting so hot
> 
> that parts close up clearances., Virg
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:29:19 - "Mac McConnell-Wood"
> 
>  writes:
> 
> >
> 
> > - Original Message -
> 
> > From: Mac McConnell-Wood
> 
> > To: kr...@mailinglists.org
> 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:51 AM
> 
> > Subject: Revmaster oil
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Has anyone out there used synthetic oil in a Revmaster? I know
> 
> > Willie swears by it, but I get the impression that the engine
> 
> > tightens up when it gets up to operating temps.Thanks for any input.
> 
> > And Frank Ross
> 
> > over there in the gongless hinterlands of Suffolk ,if you yearn for
> 
> > the civilised environment of southern England, pop over some time
> 
> > and see my KR 1.5 and share a warm beer or three.
> 
> > Regards, Mac
> 
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> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
>  
> 
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KR>carb heat box

[Timothy Bellville]

Yes , GM used a small elec. grid heater under the carbs on chevettes and
citations. it is 12 v and easily adapted to use as pre or post heat.
Go to a junk yard and get one they may just give it to you.
It is part of the gasket, but can be cut out.
I used one on my Sonerai and it worked great.
Tim
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "Kenneth L Wiltrout" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: KR>carb heat box


> I've been having problems in cold weather w/my Revmaster 2100
> w/Revflow carb. In cold weather below 50 deg or so the thing runs so rich
> that it fouls the plugs so bad that I need to give up for a couple hrs or
> so. I've run the needle in all the way and things don't get any better,
> so I emailed Joe at Revmaster and he suggested a heat box for the carb to
> warm the fuel as it enters the intake. Now I'm sure he is not talking
> about using carb heat as I have that, ( is there some elec device )plus
> that would be ineffective for 10 min or so till the motor warms up.
> Anybody know what Joe was referring to??
> Joe seemed to think that due to the lower temps the fuel was not
> vaporizing properly. I've turned wrenches for the 1st 20 yrs of my career
> and never had a problem like this w cars or cycles.
>
> 
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KR>KR Testing

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Everyone,
I just finished testing my knew engine on the KR, and would like to tell of the 
results.
First , the nomenclature of this engine  a 1775cc,with a oo9 ignition and blue 
super coil,Kubota 14 amp. Dynamo/alt.
with a HD regulator and drycell Batt. Duel port heads and a Zenith model 68 
carb.

First I had some difficulty getting it started and had to use starter fluid,but 
after wile it fired over. After setting the timing and mixture , I got in and 
slowly ran it up. That is when something amazing happened, with full up 
elevator, the tail tied down and brakes applied, at 1/2 throttle,the tail came 
up!
The outer wing panels were not installed and I only had about two gal. of fuel 
in the header tank.
Has this happened to anyone else? I never seen a control surface generate that 
much lift with full opposite deflection.
Tim Bellville
KR2  N7038V

KR>24 gals of gas

[Timothy Bellville]

I remember an old aviation saying:
"the only time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire"

- Original Message -
From: "Ross Youngblood" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: KR>24 gals of gas


> > IF YOU CARRY 24GAL'S. OF GAS you could be flying for up to 6 hrs.,do you
want to be in there for that long?
> > 12 gal,s may be more reasonable
>
> Another way to look at it is... you have 6 hours of flying
> time BETWEEN refueling.  That doesn't mean you can't
> stop to buy a hot dog, pancake breakfast, $100 hamburger,
> and come back before fueling.
>
> Three things of no use to me as a pilot:
>   1) Fuel in the truck on the ground below you.
>   2) Sky above you.
>   3) Runway behind you.
>
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KR>KR Testing

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Dan,
I have fuselage mounted spring gear.
I don't believe that it is the problem.And now I really don't think that I
have a problem. Given the amount of thrust,and I believe some lift from the
stub wings. but after I put some more thought to it I realized that I may
have created a ground effect from the fence that I had the tail tied
to.(6'stockade), it was 6 feet behind the tail.
I plan on doing more tests in an open field.
Tim
KR2  N7038V



- Original Message -
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR>KR Testing


Without the wings on, it is very nose heavy.  You may also have a problem
with your gear geometry.  What kind of gear do you have?

N64KR

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

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---Original Message---

From: KR builders and pilots
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:40:09 PM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: KR>KR Testing

Hi Everyone,
I just finished testing my knew engine on the KR, and would like to tell of
the results.
First , the nomenclature of this engine a 1775cc,with a oo9 ignition and
blue super coil,Kubota 14 amp. Dynamo/alt.
with a HD regulator and drycell Batt. Duel port heads and a Zenith model 68
carb.

First I had some difficulty getting it started and had to use starter fluid
but after wile it fired over. After setting the timing and mixture , I got
in and slowly ran it up. That is when something amazing happened, with full
up elevator, the tail tied down and brakes applied, at 1/2 throttle,the tail
came up!
The outer wing panels were not installed and I only had about two gal. of
fuel in the header tank.
Has this happened to anyone else? I never seen a control surface generate
that much lift with full opposite deflection.
Tim Bellville
KR2 N7038V
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KR>KR Testing

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Colin,
I'm just now learning the quirks and characteristics of this little bird.

Tim



- Original Message -
From: "Colin" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: KR>KR Testing


Tim,
Ran up our 1835 with big jug heads and Culver 52/48 prop, and at 2200rpm
static brought the tail right up!  Had to have the wife sit on the
horizontal stab next to the fuse to keep it down!

Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td)
crain...@cfl.rr.com
Sanford, Florida
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KR>KR Testing..and the tail comming up......

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Jerry .
No problems here. yesterday I was playing around with her again and this
time I had nothing behind it and she behaved normally and predictably. with
75% power, the tail came up from neutral and was very controllable. I was
able to hold it from 1" to 2' with no adverse reactions. I believe I created
a vortices last time that produced the "reversed lift".
I will do as you advise and check my angle of incidence , but I don't think
I'll find any problems.
I am not use to a tail dragger behaving this way. I had a Sonerai I that
wouldn't raise the hail in a hurricane, and I like the ease of the kr2 .
Thanks.
Tim
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "KRJerry" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: KR>KR Testing..and the tail comming up..


...Tim,

It might be TOO simple; but might I suggest that you check your horizontal
stab incidence to your wing stubs chordline.  If it is over about three
degrees, you have a large problem..

KRJerry
Jerry Mahurin
Lugoff, SC
e-mail: krje...@bellsouth.net
Website: http://KR-Builder.org
---Original Message---

From: KR builders and pilots
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, October 26, 2003 14:40:11
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: KR>KR Testing

. That is when something amazing happened, with full up
elevator, the tail tied down and brakes applied, at 1/2 throttle,the tail
came up!
The outer wing panels were not installed and I only had about two gal. of
fuel in the header tank.
Has this happened to anyone else? I never seen a control surface generate
that much lift with full opposite deflection.
Tim Bellville
KR2 N7038V
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KR>paint

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Mark,
Well I'd be lying if I said you didn't scare the hell out of me about using
silver paint.( I have two Gal.)
Do you see any problems using a handheld with it's own antenna not grounded
to the airframe?Would it be the same as in a Spam can? I don't plan on using
the Nav on it as this is a day VFR only plane(mine, not the design)
As far as the feather fill, I too am not trying to achieve perfection but
get close as I can within reason and feather fill is said to be great at
sanding and filling imperfections, But I still want the UV protection from
the smooth prime.
Thanks again,
Tim Bellville
KR2  N7038V
 Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: KR>paint


> Tim wrote:
>
> > I plan on using "Nevada silver" as a base and considering a checkerboard
> > pattern on the nose.
>
> The thing about silver is that is entirely composed of metallic aluminum
> chips.  You might argue that it's very thin, and you'd be right, be so is
> aluminum foil, the stuff that people use to make ground planes out of.  I
> was thinking about painting my plane the same color as my car, which has a
> little metallic in it.  An electrical engineer buddy whose specialty is
> antennas modeled my vertical stab and antenna in some software that
analyzes
> antenna patterns at specific frequencies.  While the signal improved
> slightly out front (for 123 kHz), it just about got killed completely from
> behind, thanks to the vertical stab and rudder behind it.  That's bad
> enough, but then it dawned on me that the other half of antenna dipole is
> buried INSIDE the fuselage, and beneath the aft deck, so you might as well
> throw that leg away entirely!  That's when I went to just plain red.
Based
> on his analysis, and the experience of others, silver paint would
seriously
> degrade antenna performance, which is why I'm probably going with a very
> light gray on top instead.  My thinking is that white or light gray is
easy
> to see from above, and a dark color such as red is easy to see from below.
> If neither of those arguments hold water, then it's just because I like
red!
>
> > As A side note, do you see any problem using feather fill over
> smoothprime?
>
> I don't know about Feather Fill, but I sprayed an entire layer of urethane
> primer over Smooth Prime on my plane.  Not that it proves anything, just
> that I don't think there'll be a problem with what I did.  Can't say about
> Feather Fill, since it's polyester based.  Wouldn't you want to follow
> Smooth Prime with the primer or sealer that's recommended for your top
coat?
> For example, DuPont's Ultimate 2K urethane primer is OK for use directly
> under DuPont's urethane colors, and it has a great build and is easy to
> sand.  It's working for me.  Feather Fill might be just fine, but I don't
> know.  I guess I should let somebody that knows what they're talking about
> answer that one...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
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KR>sonerai landing gear

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi James,
yes you can use the Gpas gear on a KR2 but I recommend that you mount them
un cut to the fuselage, and not to the outer spar. this is less stress on
the spar, and much easier to retro-fit. use 6x8x1/2" angle alum. for
mounting brackets and doublers on the forward spar.
If you are interested in this I will go in to greater detail on how I did
it.
Tim
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "James Leverton" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: KR>sonerai landing gear


> Does anyone know about using a sonerai landing gear on a kr-2?  I read
that
> troy petteway cut them apart and mounted them to the spar.  I would like
to
> do the same.  Do the wheels have to be at a certain distance in front of
the
> spars?  The Grove landing gear angles forward 7" but they are $800.  $425.
> from great plains for the sonerai gear looks a whole lot better if it will
> work.  Thanks   Jim
>
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KR>Kr Progress

[Timothy Bellville]

HI everyone,
I just finished putting the third coat of smooth -prime on the bottom of my KR2 
. This marks the completion of the retrofit to the fixed gear (Fuselage mount, 
spring gear from great plains,).
This stuff is great to work with and sands very well, to bad it is so expensive.
I made my mounting brackets from 6x8x1/2" , 6061 extruded alum. angle (X3) and 
doublers on the forward part of the spar to clear the cross member on the front 
of the spar. I cut three 4x6" holes in the floor , and used the original holes 
on the spar for mounting the angle brackets.
With her on her back I did the alignment of the spring gear, and used the 
original holes for mounting to the brackets. I then cut a foam wedge and 
glassed it in to the bottom of the fuselage to flair in the leading edge of the 
gear.
Filling the holes from the original gear was a lot of sanding but straight 
forward, and now you could never tell it had retracts.
I plan on top coating the belly before I put her back on her gear,as to not 
have to do it on my back, but to also have it done, and allow me to concentrate 
on the top.
Tim Bellville
N7038V

KR>assembly plant

[Timothy Bellville]

"old fashion fiber glassing"???
When did it become old?
- Original Message - 
From: "gerald locker" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 10:47 PM
Subject: KR>assembly plant


> Dear Sirs,
> 
> My partner and I are opening up an assembly plant in
> Tijuana, Mexico in June of 2004 once I return from
> Thailand.  We are going to make the KR series, both
> stock and custom and could use any help that anyone
> might have concerning the VW engine, to
> instrumentation for VFR, oxygen system, BRS, and
> Avionics.  We would also like to know if there is an
> easier way to make it than using the old fashion 
> fiber glassing.  Is there a newer product that can be
> laid at one time that is stronger, quicker, and easier
> to do?  We are interested in hearing from retired
> individuals who may have had the opportunity to work
> more hours at a time on their planes.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gerald Locker, Managing Director
> M Aviation of the Americas
> My email is brigadier192...@yahoo.com and my phone/fax
> here in Thailand is 66-2-916-7504.  You would have to
> dial the international code first.  I believe that is
> 011 from the States.
> 
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KR>assembly plant

[Timothy Bellville]

I sounds to me like you are trying to reinvent the wheel.
It also sounds like you have no plan to benefit the widow of the man that
designed this plain and construction concept.
Are you going to buy parts from R/R inc. ?Pay them royalties?
This little plain was meant to be a homebuilt, and built by people that
could not afford a Cessna.
You are trying to stand on the shoulders of others to make a buck.
I for one, do not want to see a bunch of  "factory built" KR's showing up on
NTSB reports and dragging down the name of this well designed and conceived
aircraft.
Come up with your own concept, and hire a Aeronautical engineer to invent
your new store-bought and leave the KR's to those that love to build and fly
them.
I for one will not help you, and I don't think you will find much help here!
Timothy Bellville
(homebuilt) KR2  N7038V

KR>assembly plant

[Timothy Bellville]

Perhaps, the problem here is the way you presented your self to us,
Surly you can see why some of us are apprehensive to things such as your
venture,
if you have an arrangement with Jeanette, you should have been up front with
it.
As vast as the internet is and originating in another country,skepticism
should be expected.
If you are only seeking information about a possible business venture that
has the blessing of R/R Inc., Then there are many people more qualified to
give it then I.
I too am interested why you choose to built out side the United States.
I am also a former Marine, But I fail to see why it should be an issue.
As far as your parameters for your finished product, my personal opinion is
that it is over built and too heavy in your configuration. Just my humble
$.02
Timothy Bellville
- Original Message -
From: "gerald locker" <brigadier192...@yahoo.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: KR>assembly plant


>
> --- Timothy Bellville <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > I sounds to me like you are trying to reinvent the
> > wheel.
> > It also sounds like you have no plan to benefit the
> > widow of the man that
> > designed this plain and construction concept.
> > Are you going to buy parts from R/R inc. ?Pay them
> > royalties?
> > This little plain was meant to be a homebuilt, and
> > built by people that
> > could not afford a Cessna.
> > You are trying to stand on the shoulders of others
> > to make a buck.
> > I for one, do not want to see a bunch of  "factory
> > built" KR's showing up on
> > NTSB reports and dragging down the name of this well
> > designed and conceived
> > aircraft.
> > Come up with your own concept, and hire a
> > Aeronautical engineer to invent
> > your new store-bought and leave the KR's to those
> > that love to build and fly
> > them.
> > I for one will not help you, and I don't think you
> > will find much help here!
> > Timothy Bellville
> > (homebuilt) KR2  N7038V
>
> Dear Mr. Bellville,
>
> I appreciat your response though I cannot agree with
> you on most of your assumptions.  My partner and I are
> going to be working with Jenette at RR in every kit we
> buy, and if we do produce our own, we certainly will
> be paying royalties to her.  \
> We decided on the KR series since it incorporates
> everything we sought in a good airplane.  It has the
> range, the looks, the relative speed we sought for our
> sales marketing to overseas, and to the States.  We
> are building it because we feel that many would like
> to have a beautiful, safe, and reliable plane at a
> relatively inexpensive price, and without having to
> spend 1000 + hours building it.  We have a sound
> program being set up and I am always open to
> suggestions that will benefit us and the KR family of
> owners and pilots.
> I am a former Marine General who has flown over 30
> years, but I must admit that I am a novice at the
> building process and realize that the more I know, the
> better the plane will be.  We want to include a BRS, a
> portable oxygen system, long range fuel tanks,
> transponder and GPS as part of the stock plane, not an
> option.
> I am very sorry that you do not wish to offer any
> sound advice to us because we are always ready to
> listen.
> My partner owns, as well as his brother Accuracy
> Technologies in Glendale and Ventura and we intend to
> do a lot of R on new engines and airplane parts to
> be put in our own planes, as well as for sale to the
> general public.  We are spending our own money, and we
> want no ones money except those that are buying our
> product.  We care for the plane as much as anyone else
> does.  Our questions I asked still could use some
> answers.
>
> Thank you for writing and hop you will reconsider and
> write again.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gerald Locker
> >
> >
> > ___
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> http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
>
>
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KR>Migrant KR2

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Serge,
I wish you luck in your new home, and I hope you can get the red tape
successfully cut for your KR.
I spent 45 days in north Tunisia back in 1984 as a squad leader in the 22nd
MAU ,1stBN8th Marines.
I remember the people to be very friendly and happy to see us. But my God
were those earthworms huge!
Fare skies my friend.
Tim Bellville
- Original Message -
From: "Serge F. Vidal" 
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:03 AM
Subject: KR>Migrant KR2


> Dear Netheads,
>
> My KR2, ZS-WEC, has successfully completed a very long trip, from South
> Africa to Tunisia (North Africa). No glory in it: it travelled in a
shipping
> container, together with my furniture!
> Just before I shipped the plane, I finally managed to upgrade the engine
> from a stock VW 2 liter, to a fancy 2.4 liter. Also, the electronic
ignition
> is now full dual.
> All that did not go without teething problems. At a point, the brand new
> engine even seized, due to a faulty oil bypass valve! The CHT is also on
the
> high side, so I will probably have to improve the air cooling as well.
> Yet, despite the tight schedule, I finally managed to test fly the
aircraft
> for about two hours. What I can tell you is that it feels very, very
> different! Before, considering the high density altitude in Johannesburg,
> the plane did not want to take-off. Now, it is reluctant to land! At last,
I
> understand why people are crazy about the KR. Give it enough power, and it
> flies like a dream. I can't wait for a flight at sea level.
>
> Anyway, the next challenge is just ahead: going through customs in
Tunisia.
> Here, general aviation, let alone private plane ownership or even
> homebuilding, is almost non-existant. It seems that it is the first time
> that a plane comes in this country by sea, and customs simply don't know
how
> to handle it. Understandably, they are also nervous about the "security"
> implications. Oh, well! As they say here, Inch'Allah! (As per God's will!)
>
> I would like to thank Norman Stapelberg, who can rightfully claim all the
> credit for the modification, and much, much more. It's people like him
that
> make homebuilding such a great experience.
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 ZS-WEC
> Tunis, Tunisia
>
>
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KR>Kr2 Rebuild

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Netters,
Well between working back to back double shifts at work ,I have managed to get 
a great deal of work done on my KR.
First, she is no longer a retract. I have just completed the conversion over to 
the fuselage mounted spring gear with hydraulic disc brakes. I have filled the 
holes in the wings and flaring in the gear to the bottom of the fuselage.
I am now re designing the tail wheel and rake of the tail spring.
I have rebuilt the engine, and changed the carb to a updraft Zenith,and a 009 
dist. with a high output coil.
I have a starter and acc. case but no longer using a mag.
I have changed the alternator to a Kubota 14 amp. dynamo and a Harley Davidson 
14amp. regulator. That is belt driven off the flywheel end of the crank.
I used a standard gland nut with the bearing removed,milled out to a 5/8" hole, 
and welded a shaft to it and matched a pulley to it from a old alt.
I have also solved my aileron problem by carving out holes in the wings and 
ailerons , drilling threw each rivet,and installing a ss screw and nutplate(to 
the back of the false spar) then floxing in the nutplate and filling the holes. 
I am hopping to have her painted and reassembled by the end of September.

Tim Bellville
KR2  N7038V

KR>Ailerons

[Timothy Bellville]

Ok Guys , I'm back from the Holy land and making great progress on N7038V.
I have turned my attention to the hinge mounts for the Ailerons, and per some 
suggestions to correct the "rivet" installation, I have begun to flox in the 
nut plates to the spars.
I would like to repeat my steps for you, and welcome input.

First, I removed the rivets from one side of one of the four hinges to maintain 
alignment.
Then I drilled out the holes to 7/32" , and placed the two lug nut plates in 
the holes,then check to see if the holes in the hinge were on center.
I then used #2 ss screws to hold the plates down, and traced the outline of 
them, then removed them.
Using a dremal and a router bit, I made sockets for them to be recessed below 
the top of the spar, and then reinstalled them with the screws in the mounting 
lugs.
I then folded the hinge back down to check alignment and flushness.
I dipped the 8-32 truss head machine screws in wax the lightly screwed them in 
the nut plates.
Lastly I mix some "West systems" epoxy with flox to a peanut butter 
consistency, and with a wood trowel filled the holes and encapsulated the nut 
plates.
I then used the remaining mixture to make a test piece, to test the strength to 
destruction,of this type of installation.
Anyone see any problems?
Thanks
Timothy Bellville
KR2  N7038V
Toledo , Ohio

KR>Ailerons - I am a bit confused on the router bit to make asocket for the nut plates.

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks for all the input Dan,
I was reluctant to carve up those wing skins but it seems that it would be a
good Idea.
I only wish that the original builder would have done it right.
Tim
KR2 N7038V

KR>Landing Gear

[Timothy Bellville]

HI Steve,
I'm sorry,didn't you get my E-mail?
I sent it out to you Tuesday, US parcel post.
I insured it for $400, and it has the intake and a couple of verner controls
with it.
you should get it within a few days.
please don't hesitate to tell me if you don't.
Again, I'm sorry you didn't get my first E-mail about sending it, I hope I
didn't worry you to much?
Thanks again,
Timothy Bellville
KR2  N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Glover" <kr...@earthlink.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Landing Gear


> Hi Timothy.
>
> I was just wondering if you were able to get the carb shipped out?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Glover
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:03 PM
> Subject: KR>Landing Gear
>
>
> Can anyone tell me where to find the mounting brackets for a spring gear
to
> mount to the bottom of the fuselage of a KR2?
> Or maybe some drawings to make some?
> Also I would like to see pictures or a web site of KR2's with spring gear
> landing gear.
> Thanks
> See you at Oshkosh.
> Timothy Bellville
> KR2  N7038V
> Toledo,Ohio
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>
>
>
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KR>Landing Gear

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Dan,
she is a beauty,why did you sell her?
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Landing Gear


Can anyone tell me where to find the mounting brackets for a spring gear to
mount to the bottom of the fuselage of a KR2?

Check with Grove..  http://www.groveaircraft.com/landing_gear.html

Also I would like to see pictures or a web site of KR2's with spring gear
landing gear.

This is not a Grove, but it is a one piece aluminum gear that is very
similar to the Grove.  I bought it from someone who was parting out stuff
and I don't know where it came from.

http://kr-builder.org/beast/beast.htm 


N64KR

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

See you in Red Oak - 2003

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KR>Landing Gear

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks David,
I guess the only apprehension I have about mounting the gear this way is
cutting in to the floor to "Submerge"the gear. I am worried about structural
integrity.
I was thinking about just cutting holes threw the floor,mounting the plates
flush with the bottom , mounting the spring then flaring it in with glass.
Does anyone see a problem with this?
I am committed now, my retracts are removed and packed up for Oshkosh.
Thanks
Timothy Bellville
KR2  N7038V
Toledo, Ohio
- Original Message -
From: "David Mullins" <n32...@comcast.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Landing Gear


> Tim,
>
> You can check out what I did to mount the Grove Gear
> on my bird at the link below. I made a simple "L"
> bracket with sides using 4130. The gear is bolted
> on with radius blocks and 3/8" bolts. You can mount
> the brackets so they just touch the bottom skin. That
> way the only clearance holes will be for the radius
> blocks. I submerged the top of the gear and only
> have the legs and lower radius blocks out in the
> slipstream.
>
> http://n323xl.iwarp.com/bllandinggear1.htm
>
> Dave Mullins
> Nashua, New Hampshire
>
> Timothy Bellville wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where to find the mounting brackets for a spring gear
to mount to the bottom of the fuselage of a KR2?
> > Or maybe some drawings to make some?
> > Also I would like to see pictures or a web site of KR2's with spring
gear landing gear.
> > Thanks
> > See you at Oshkosh.
> > Timothy Bellville
> > KR2  N7038V
> > Toledo,Ohio
> > ___
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KR>carburetor

[Timothy Bellville]

I'm sorry Larry,but are you offering me $300?
or was that just a comparison?
I did call Ellison today to get a current price to base an asking price on
and was told that they no longer make them. the only one for a VW that they
sell is the EFS-3 for $850, but they still sell parts for it.
Thanks
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: KR>carburetor


> Great Plains told me that one sold recently for $300. I am getting a rear
> drive setup, so the manifold won't work.
>
> At 04:49 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Larry,
> >I have  one that I may be wiling to sell, with the intake system or
without.
> >It is fairly new and was mounted, but removed to rebuild the engine.
> >Let me know what you think a fair price would be.I'll be reasonable.
> >Tim Bellville
> >Toledo , Ohio
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
>
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KR>KR Parts For Sale

[Timothy Bellville]

HI David,
The gentleman that is selling the parts is named Jim Burns,and his number
is,(808)298-3971.
I am buying the props and gear from him, but he still has the engine and a
few other parts.
I told him That I would forward his number to you.
Tim Bellville
KR2 N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "David Hartz" 
To: ; "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR>KR Parts For Sale


> LARRY
> DO YOU STILL HAVE PARTS FOR SALE?
> DAVE
> --- Larry A Capps  wrote:
> > KR Parts For Sale - pictures available
> >
> >  - HAPI 1835cc dual ignition engine w/ Starter (2
> > hrs run time) $1,800
> >
> >  - Exhaust system  $100
> >
> >  - Two props. (climb and cruise)  $150
> >
> >  - Fixed Landing Gear w/ 500 tires and hydraulic
> > breaks  $100
> >
> >  - Posa Carb. and spinner  $75
> >
> >  - Stainless steel tail wheel assembly  $50
> >
> > TAKE ALL FOR $2,000
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Larry A Capps
> > Naperville, IL
> > laca...@attbi.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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KR>Landing Gear

[Timothy Bellville]

Can anyone tell me where to find the mounting brackets for a spring gear to 
mount to the bottom of the fuselage of a KR2?
Or maybe some drawings to make some?
Also I would like to see pictures or a web site of KR2's with spring gear 
landing gear.
Thanks
See you at Oshkosh.
Timothy Bellville
KR2  N7038V
Toledo,Ohio

KR>carburetor

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Larry,
I have  one that I may be wiling to sell, with the intake system or without.
It is fairly new and was mounted, but removed to rebuild the engine.
Let me know what you think a fair price would be.I'll be reasonable.
Tim Bellville
Toledo , Ohio
KR2
N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "larry severson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: KR>carburetor


> Anyone know of an Ellison ef-2 available for sale?
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
>
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KR>Mag

[Timothy Bellville]

I also have a older "New" Slick mag , with shielded harness and plugs for a VW 
, that I will sell for $200 and I'll pay shipping.
Thanks
Timothy Bellville
KR2
N7038V
Toledo , Ohio
(419)693-8104

KR>KR2 Ailerons

[Timothy Bellville]

Help Guys,
I made a horrible discovery today, and I need some help. On doing an inspection 
of the wing outer panels, I discovered that the original builder had used SS 
rivets to mount the piano hinges to the spars, and one came loose!

I scanned the plans but could not find anything about the installation of the 
aileron, just the control horn .
What kind of fastener should be used? and how many?
Could someone please go in to detail about this most critical assembly.
I have spent a great deal of time finishing this little bird, and hopefully 
this is no big deal.
At this point, I thought The wings were complete, ready for paint.
Thanks
Tim Bellville
KR2
N7038V
Toledo ,Ohio

KR>KR2 Ailerons

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Rick,
looks like I'm tearing in to these wings!
I don't know what is under the glass, I hope he didn't put them in to the
wood spar.
I was actually hoping he glassed over some alum.
I have a call in to him for some answers.
Thanks again.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "Rick Wilson" <rwdw2...@yahoo.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: KR>KR2 Ailerons


> Tim, The plans call for nuts to be floxed to the back
> side of the spar and then screws put through the spar
> and screwed into the nuts. Same on the aileron spar.
> Hope this helps. Rick Wilson.
> --- Timothy Bellville <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > Help Guys,
> > I made a horrible discovery today, and I need some
> > help. On doing an inspection of the wing outer
> > panels, I discovered that the original builder had
> > used SS rivets to mount the piano hinges to the
> > spars, and one came loose!
> >
> > I scanned the plans but could not find anything
> > about the installation of the aileron, just the
> > control horn .
> > What kind of fastener should be used? and how many?
> > Could someone please go in to detail about this most
> > critical assembly.
> > I have spent a great deal of time finishing this
> > little bird, and hopefully this is no big deal.
> > At this point, I thought The wings were complete,
> > ready for paint.
> > Thanks
> > Tim Bellville
> > KR2
> > N7038V
> > Toledo ,Ohio
> > ___
> > see KRnet list details at
> http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
>
>
> =
> Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2...@yahoo.com
>
>
>
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KR>KR2 Ailerons

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Larry ,
looks like I need to buy a recent version of the plans, I have an original
set that came with the project,(1974?)
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:19 AM
Subject: KR>KR2 Ailerons


> >I made a horrible discovery today, and I need some help. On doing an
> inspection of the wing outer panels, I discovered that the original
builder
> had used SS rivets to mount the piano hinges to the spars, and one came
loose!
> >Tim Bellville
> +
>
> RIVETS IN WOOD ??  WHAT THE HELL WAS SOMEONE THINKING???
>
> Page 87 of the KR2 plans give the written instructions for mounting
> the hinge with " 8/32 pan head bolts with nut plates spaced 6" apart".
>
> Before cutting the wing open to correct you might consider using a
> hole saw, held at an angle to cut a semi-circle access hole every
> 6" on both the aileron and wing panel.  You really only need access
> to attach and flox the nut plates.  Make the holes on the bottom
> side, insert a foam plug when finished, and cover back over with
> a layer of glass and refinish.  If the hinge alignment is o.k. now
> I'd remove and replace half the rivets at a time to hold alingment
> while you are correcting the problem.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
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KR>KR2 Ailerons

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks Orma,
It actually has four 10" long hinges.
I plan on doing exploratory surgery this week.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: KR>KR2 Ailerons


> In a message dated 7/8/2003 4:04:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> soner...@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
> > and one came loose!
>
> Before you decide how to reattach the rivet to the spar, you had better
know
> why it came loose.  Long piano hinges are known for binding and pulling
itself
> from the attach point.  Make sure you don't have that condition
> Orma AKA AviationMech
> KR-2 N110LR
> 1984 to Present
> www.members.aol.com/aviationmech
> also see me at
> www.aviation-mechanics.com
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KR>Carb fuel pressure

[Timothy Bellville]

I too have a EFS2 carb  on my 1750cc engine. If I was ever to change
anything on the set up it would be the intake manifold to the GPAS unit for
the KR, I have a "Facet" fuel pump for starting and landing, but normally
don't need it on.
Tim Bellville
KR2
N7038V
Toledo , Ohio
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Freiberger" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR>Carb fuel pressure


>
>
> Christian Kogelman wrote;
> The EFS works well, Ellison's Customer support is very good too.
> I had initial troubles of adjusting it correctly. And now I still keep
> adjusting it (on a monthly basis when temp or humidity changes).
>
> It seems to me that the EFS2 requires a certain minimum fuel pressure, and
> that when operating below that pressure, it is an UNREGULATED system, just
> like a Revflow or Posa, and that it is also running on the lean side (
> towards "flameout" ) . That ought to make it variable on air density and
> head pressure.  Isn't that a lot of money spent for a carb that will be
not
> working as intended, and on the dangerous side of mixture setting?
>
> The spec is 2 to 6 psi, which would be a minimum fuel head of about 4.5
> feet.  Does anyone have a header tank 4.5 feet above the injector?
>
>
> Ron Freiberger
> mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
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KR>Fun Friday.....Don't look Ethal!!

[Timothy Bellville]

You are a very wise man!
But I would have to keep my wife's feet off of the rudder peddles as well
Tim
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana Overall" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Fun Friday.Don't look Ethal!!


> BTW, I am not installing brakes on the passenger side I don't want the 
> passenger, when I jockey it all over the runway with the tailwheel, to 
> decide to take matters in his/her own hands and slam on the brakes;)  
> Tipping it up is for me, and only me, to do!!
> 
> 
> 
> Dana Overall
> 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
> Richmond, KY
> RV-7 slider/fuselage
> Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
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> 
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KR>Re: Up for Adoption

[Timothy Bellville]

Mark I am prepared To come get it, and would love to finish it. Please
consider me for the Adoption.
I can pick it up anytime that is good for you.
Thanks
Tim Bellville
KR2 N7038V
Toledo, Ohio
(419)693_8104
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: KR>Re: Up for Adoption


Ok Guys,
I am getting flooded with questions about the fuselage now that I have
offered it up for free. Please and again I emphasize, please only e-mail me
with questions if you meet the following criteria:

1) You will pick up the fuselage or
2) You will arrange for all shipping, including having the freight company
crate the fuselage for you or you can come to Wisconsin and crate it up. The
fuselage is located 25 miles west of Milwaukee.
3) You will make an honest attempt to complete the plane.

Now, if you have already e-mailed me once and can still meet the above
criteria and really want to commit yourself to this project, then e-mail me
again and we will make arrangements.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR>Diehl gear

[Timothy Bellville]

I Too would like a photo,if it's not to much trouble?
Thanks
Tim Bellville
KR2
N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "William Clapp" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Diehl gear


> Since I had fiberglass legs arready but did not have brackets, I went
ahead
> and made mine out of 1/4" steel.  I followed the basic design of Deihl.
> After welding them I put a couple lightening holes in them.  I believe
they
> weigh a little less than a pound each finished.  They are strong.  The
> aluminum ones may weigh close to the same since they are thicker.  They
have
> NOT been flight tested yet but seem a little overbuilt for the plane.
Just
> what I want.  I can sent you photos if you want.Bill
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:14 PM
> Subject: KR>Diehl gear
>
>
> > Question.
> > I looked in the archieve list and could not find a certian
> > posting about someone who made their own gear bracket like
> > a Diehl.  Since I'm cheap, could this safely work? and
> > could I talk with them?  Decided to go with the tail
> > dragger for weight reduction.
> >
> > Steven Phillabaum
> > Auburn Alabama
> >
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> >
>
>
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KR>KR landing gear/brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi everyone,
I have a couple of new questions.
Awhile back , when I wrote about putting toe brakes on my Kr2, a gentleman 
warned me to beef up the rudder control horn else I would bend it pressing to 
hard on the brakes. I have found this to be true.
On my sonerai this was never a issue due to the metal construction of the whole 
tail, but on the Kr, I am hesitant to change the design.
Does anyone know of a way to reinforce this area without doing major surgery or 
adding to much additional weight?
And has anyone ever used a hand brake mounted to the stick to apply both brakes 
at the same time? I had this Idea when I was contemplating the control horn 
problem.
Also I have retracts, if it matters.
Thanks everyone,
Tim
KR2
N7038V

KR>hot battery

[Timothy Bellville]

No that this could happen to a KR , but I want to write about something that
happened to a bank of batteries that we use at our water plant to start our
high service pumps.
When I flipped the switch on one of these pumps last Wednesday, there was an
immediate loud explosion from the back room where the batteries are kept.
Upon investigating I found a mist of atomized electrolyte in the air and
battery parts in a 25 ft. radius of the bank.
I will use a dry cell battery in my KR2 from now on, as far as I know these
cannot explode if use properly, and need no ventilation.
I had one in my Sonerai I for two years with no problems.
I was the same one that they use in Jet skis.

Tim

KR>hot battery

[Timothy Bellville]

Gee, I need to proof read more before I click send.
Sorry everyone.
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: KR>hot battery


> No that this could happen to a KR , but I want to write about something
that
> happened to a bank of batteries that we use at our water plant to start
our
> high service pumps.
> When I flipped the switch on one of these pumps last Wednesday, there was
an
> immediate loud explosion from the back room where the batteries are kept.
> Upon investigating I found a mist of atomized electrolyte in the air and
> battery parts in a 25 ft. radius of the bank.
> I will use a dry cell battery in my KR2 from now on, as far as I know
these
> cannot explode if use properly, and need no ventilation.
> I had one in my Sonerai I for two years with no problems.
> I was the same one that they use in Jet skis.
>
> Tim
>
>
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KR>Gel Batteries

[Timothy Bellville]

Not to pick a point at you Jim, But the Hindenburg fire was caused by the
dope on the fabric of the outer skin, the hydrogen explosion was secondary,
but still Very violent.
The Drycell I use is a "Oddessay P545" out of a Jet ski application , from a
battery wholesale house here in Toledo. it works great.
Thanks
Tim
KR2
N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "JIM VANCE" 
To: "krnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: KR>Gel Batteries


I put a gel battery in my KR-2.  It's worth a few extra bucks to not have to
worry with venting and getting rid of the acid vapors.

Batteries explode because they generate hydrogen gas when they are charged.
Look at a picture of the Hindenberg to see what hydrogen can do.

I found a small company that sells a full range of gel batteries.  They are
most professional in their service and shipping, and their prices are
competitive.  Their catalog can be seen at b and c specialty.com.

Jim Vance

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KR>KR landing gear/brakes

[Timothy Bellville]

What a great Idea Serge, I'm going to give it a try.
Thanks
Tim
- Original Message -
From: "S.F. Vidal" <svi...@icon.co.za>
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:09 AM
Subject: RE: KR>KR landing gear/brakes


> I have hand brakes on my flying KR. Since it's a taildragger, the two
brakes
> are separate to help with ground steering... which I strongly recommend
for
> all taildragger KR2s! My brakes are motrocycle type handles; they are not
> mounted on the stick, Russian style, but just ahead of the main spar. You
> grab them with one hand, while your other hand is on the stick. Non
typical,
> but easy to build and effective.
>
> You can have a look at them on Mark Langford's site, under Serge Vidal's
KR.
>
> Serge F. VIDAL
> KR2 ZS-WEC (between two engines)
> Johannesburg, South Africa
> E-mail: svi...@icon.co.za
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Timothy Bellville
> Sent: 10/06/2003 10:04
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR>KR landing gear/brakes
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have a couple of new questions.
> Awhile back , when I wrote about putting toe brakes on my Kr2, a gentleman
> warned me to beef up the rudder control horn else I would bend it pressing
> to hard on the brakes. I have found this to be true.
> On my sonerai this was never a issue due to the metal construction of the
> whole tail, but on the Kr, I am hesitant to change the design.
> Does anyone know of a way to reinforce this area without doing major
surgery
> or adding to much additional weight?
> And has anyone ever used a hand brake mounted to the stick to apply both
> brakes at the same time? I had this Idea when I was contemplating the
> control horn problem.
> Also I have retracts, if it matters.
> Thanks everyone,
> Tim
> KR2
> N7038V
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>
>
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KR>Kr Flaps

[Timothy Bellville]

Can anyone give me some insight in to adding flaps or a speed brake to an 
existing stock fuselage with retracts?
Thanks
Tim
KR2
N7038V
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KR>vert. card compass

[Timothy Bellville]

Hi Ed,
You live in Yipsi?
I Live in Toledo, how far along is your KR?
I wonder if I could see it some time?
Tim
KR2
N7038V
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass


> Chief has a good unit for $186, non-TSO'd.
> 
> Ed Larsen
> Ypsi, MI 
> 
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KR>vert. card compass

[Timothy Bellville]

Your more then welcome to come see mine, just give me a call to see if I'll
be home.
Tim
(419)693-8104
KR2
N7038V
- Original Message -
From: "Mascharka, Randy (R.)" <rmasc...@ford.com>
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: KR>vert. card compass


> Hi Ed and Tim,
>
> I live in Ypsilanti as well and I'm interested in building a KR2.
> Could I arrange to see your projects?
> My e-mail is rmasc...@ford.com.
>
> Randy Mascharka
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Timothy Bellville [mailto:soner...@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: KR builders and pilots
> Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass
>
>
> Hi Ed,
> You live in Yipsi?
> I Live in Toledo, how far along is your KR?
> I wonder if I could see it some time?
> Tim
> KR2
> N7038V
> - Original Message -
> From: <eclarse...@aol.com>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass
>
>
> > Chief has a good unit for $186, non-TSO'd.
> >
> > Ed Larsen
> > Ypsi, MI
> >
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KR>Kr Flaps

[Timothy Bellville]

Thanks everyone for your impute, and pushing me in to the direction I think
it would be best that I go.
I Have already been leaning toward the speed brake but not sure how to go
about it.
Can anyone give me some designed spec's and materials, Installation
instructions?
Does R/R have any plans supplements?

I would prefer to copy a proven set up rather then blaze new ground.
Thanks again
Tim
KR2
N7038V



- Original Message -
From: "Oscar Zuniga" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: KR>Kr Flaps


> Tim asks-
>
> >Can anyone give me some insight in to adding flaps or a speed brake
> >to an existing stock fuselage with retracts?
>
> Probably not telling you anything that isn't obvious, but the speed brake
> will be easier to add than flaps.  The thing about the speed brake on a
> stock fuselage with retracts is that you're a bit limited on the size of
the
> brake panel because the stock retracts don't put the belly very high off
the
> ground.  Now if you make it a rule to never deploy the speed brake on or
> near the ground, that isn't an issue, but that might limit its usefulness
in
> killing float sometimes.
>
> It has sounded to me like the speed brake does more for you than flaps on
> the KR if you're looking to slow it down on approach.  Mark Langford's
(and
> others using split or Fowler flaps) might be an exception, but from what
> I've seen on the list, the stock design plain flaps aren't as effective as
> the speed brake at holding down the approach speed and helping get the
> airplane down.  I think it has a bit more effect lowering the nose too.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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KR>vert. card compass

[Timothy Bellville]

HI Ed,
I too was a Sonerai driver that was lurking on the KRnet to glean more
information on different installations of the VW, and the more I read ,the
more I fell in love with the KR2. I purchased a set of plans to study, and
as luck would have it, a friend sold me his pride an joy for a song.
The wife only has enough tolerance for one mistress in my life so the
sonerai had to go.
They are good little ships, and I am in no way say that they are better or
worse then a KR2,just that it had one less seat.
I will always love that little bird, and if you need any help with yours
,just ask, I'd be glad to help anyway I could.
Tim Bellville
KR2
N7038V
Toledo, Ohio- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass


> Tim,
>  I'm building a Sonerai (project collecting dust) and joined the KR list
some
> time back to gether information on the VW conversion, nice bunch of folks,
so
> I stayed.
>  I can be found most days at the home field, Larsen Airpark (43G).
>  Ed Larsen
>  Ypsi, MI
>
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