[lace] Now in London Ontario

2005-04-14 Thread Hendrika van Kooten
   ,
  On another matter, since I'm posting after a long hiatus (while moving
from
 Ottawa to London, Ontario and grappling with the problems of our new
 (1907) house): are any of you Spiders resident within reach of London or
 aware of any lace groups in this part of S/W Ontario? Nina in Ontario,
who
 asked a similar question a few years ago - are you still out there, making
 lace? I'd love to connect with some lacers nearby, as it's as long a drive
 back to Ottawa  as it was from Ottawa to see my lace friends in PA and NJ.
 (Greetings, gals - I hope to see you again soon!)

 Pam, now in London, Ontario, where Spring has come at last and the lawns
are
 laced with snowdrops, scillas and crocus!

to Pam now in London Ont. F y i

the Delhi Bobbin Lacemakers should be no more than about half an hour away
from London Ontario
Phone Irma Andries at ( 519 ) 582-0894
if you happen subscribe to the Canadian Lacemaker you will note the adress
in the lacemakers coast -to-coast page

Hendrika   (Simcoe County Lacemakers)

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Laceandbits
If you plan carefully before you start, then the overlap can be a bit smaller 
than the (I think) suggested 4 repeats.  If you decide where you want to do 
the join, one repeat before at the start and one extra at the end gives plenty 
to be able to handle it.

The other advantages of this join that no-one has mentioned are a) that if 
you make mistakes at the start of the lace as you are learning the pattern, you 
work enough that this bit can be cut off.  b) If you want more than one piece 
of lace (as in a set of mats) then you can just keep working for as many times 
round plus the joining bits as you need to.  And finally, c) even if you are 
working different patterns, you don't need to rewind your bobbins and throw 
all the thread away because you can use bundles of single bobbins plaited to 
where you want to start.  

Jacquie

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread beth
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) laces?
I'm working a Cluny pattern in Moravia 40 linen, and darning the ends in 
unobtrusively is going to be a pain (there's no cloth stitch, apart from the 
footside it's entirely plaits and leaves). As I want it to look good (it's a 
special present for friends), and wasn't happy with the way the first repeat 
or two turned out, making extra and overlapping sounds like a good idea, 
particularly as I hate darning in the ends.
Beth

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Laceandbits
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) 
laces?...As I want it to look good (it's a special present 
for friends), and wasn't 
happy with the way the first repeat or two turned out, making extra and 
overlapping sounds like a good idea,

No, not really.  It is traditionally used to do joins across the grounds such 
as Flanders where 4 pairs are used at a pin hole so the stitch at each pin 
has a lot of *body* to it and several sewing stiches work around the perimeter 
of the hole.  It probably wouldn't be strong enough, for example, on a 
point-ground ground as there is only the one cross movement and an uncovered 
pin.  
It would just pull apart.  

Problems with overlapping leaves and sewing round, apart from the bulk, will 
be is that they will both need to be identical in shape to be inconspicuous, 
and making sure the weaver is secure so the whole leaf doesn't unravel.   With 
plaits, it will probably be hard to keep them on-top-of each other rather than 
next-to (which would obviously show as it would then be twice as wide) and 
also anchoring all 8 ends so the plaits don't fray and fluff.

For your plaits and leaves type lace, take a look at Ulrike Lohr (+?)'s The 
beginning of the end where she shows how to finish leaves and plaits into the 
back of themself with a magic thread and then a hitched bundle.

Depending on how awful you think the start is, (and how many pairs and how 
much patience you have) it should be possible to cut the starting loops and 
un-lace to where you are happy with it, work the end of the lace until it 
matches 
and knot the matching ends together, *then* lose the ends into the back of the 
leaves and plaits (but in now in both directions as you have two sets of 
ends) as above VBG

Jacquie

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RE: [lace] Lace books

2005-04-14 Thread Andrea Lamble
Greetings Spiders,
Another fairly comprehensive book on Tonder Lace is:
The Technique of Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard
No idea if its still in print - the copy I have was published by Batsford in 
1991.

Best wishes
Andrea
from Cambridge, UK where April Showers are promised later today.

Can anyone recommend a Tønder technique book?  I noticed that Karen Trend 
Nissen book 3 is Tønder lace, has anyone learnt from this one?  I'm not 
ready to start Tønder but it's on the back burner and looking through a 
book in advance works wonders when the time comes.

Greetings from Surrey, BC
Irene Whitham
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[lace] call for Brenda Paternoster

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thanks ..

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Re: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list

2005-04-14 Thread Jaqui Borg
Here here!! Glad someone else thinks the same as I do.
Good one Clay
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Subject: RE: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list


Actually, the UK Lace Guild's convention would explain the silence from 
the
UK, but NOT the blissful silence from the US.  Meanwhile, I got dozens of
private emails thanking me for speaking out about ceasing the discussion
regarding the IOLI name change and taking it to Denver where it belonged.

But - alas - the subject appeared yet again this morning, so I suppose 
that
the delete key will just have to stay active!!

Meanwhile, I am impressed at the lack of interest on the part of the press
for the union of Prince Charles and the rotweiller.  I laughed
uproariously at the descriptions of the feathered hats worn by the hoity
toity on Saturday, but on a search of the internet could only find one
picture of a guest - the daughter of the rotweiller - and the descriptions
were accurate!!  Incredible what some people do in the name of fashion.
Her headdress looked like a pile of undercooked fettucini nested on one
side of her head!!
OK - I've been naughty, but after their 35 years of in your face
misbehavior, that's small potatoes!!
Clay
Clay Blackwell
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From: Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lace@arachne.com; lace-chat@arachne.com
Date: 4/11/2005 7:19:55 PM
Subject: [lace] Camilla's Hats
Now I know why the list was quiet over the weekend - the
UK Lace Guild's convention was on. I hope someone will
report on the high-lights of the weekend. I suppose I can
read about when my magazine arrives. My I.O.L.I. Bulletin
has yet to arrive though.
Anyway, the weather here in Tartu was dreary both days.
DH surprised me by watching the live telecast of the Royal
Wedding all the way through. I finished knitting a scarf at
the same time. Camilla's first hat was described as being
a straw hat covered with French lace  it was quite elegant.
Then when she appeared at the chapel with what I would've
called grass instead of feathers I was a little disappointed.
I would have chosen something more befitting of a Duchess.
What did other viewers think?
I just hope that we see some sunshine this week. The snow
has all gone,  the crocuses  snow-bells are blooming.
Regards,
Penelope Piip
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Re: [lace] overlap joins - Cluny

2005-04-14 Thread Alice Howell
At 12:23 AM 4/14/2005, you wrote:
Do these joins work well on heavy (thick thread) laces?
I'm working a Cluny pattern in Moravia 40 linen, and darning the ends in
unobtrusively is going to be a pain..

Sorry.  The book made a statement that overlapping was for continuous 
laces, not laces with continuous closed parts or Cluny laces where sewing 
in and tying off is preferable.  (Those were her descriptive words.)  The 
lassen sewing thread cannot jump over open spaces.

I haven't done Cluny but have done Russian, Idrijan and Hungarian.  Across 
a solid trail, one form of roll hitches has worked well  for me (method 13 
in Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace by Bridget Cook.)  You might study the 
various methods in Practical Skills.  There are several given.  Also, look 
in other books, such as Russian lace books, for trail lace methods.

Speak up now -- all you who have done Cluny.  What method worked best for you?
Alice in Oregon
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[lace] Portland

2005-04-14 Thread Helen_Clarke
Hi,

If anyone on the list is a member of the Portland Lace Society (in Oregon, 
USA) then could they please contact me privately?

Thanks,

Helen ([EMAIL PROTECTED] in Vancouver, BC on the west coast of 
mainland Canada where the weather doesn't seem to know whether to be 
cloudy, sunny or rainy!)

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RE: [lace] travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Janice Blair
I have not had a problem with knitting needles in the US or to Europe after 
9/11 but a friend who works for AA said they were changing some of their 
guidelines which is what prompted me to check their web site.  I got the TSA 
site from that webpage and was able to see that they approve of knitting 
needles as well.  I use thick, long bamboo needles which do not show up on the 
xray but I always declare them anyway.  I think if I have excess weight between 
London and Tolouse it will be okay as my ticket is booked round trip from the 
US.  BA refuse to accept anything weighing more tham 70 lbs even as excess 
baggage.  I once saw a guy opening his case at checkin and taking stuff out and 
having it reweighed.  I think it took three attempts until it was under the top 
weight allowed.  I never did see what he did with all his belongings. Anyway I 
will be knitting this trip, maybe I should find a lacey pattern.
Janice

Laurie Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I took my knitting on board with me to England last December and back again
to Boston. No problems, they were Addi turbo's so were metal, but not long.

*Janice Blair
*Subject: [lace] travel restrictions
*
*
I also checked with the US Government
*Security web site to see if knitting needles are still allowed
*on internal flights and they are. Here is the web page for
*items allowed or not.


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Clay Blackwell
Bev wrote -
 
  You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --  


SO true!!  And if you're still hesitant, think of it THIS way...  You have
the option of which end you discard.  This way, you're not working extra
repeats at all...  you're giving yourself the opportunity to discard the
first two or three repeats that weren't quite as pretty as the rest of the
work!!  The attitude makes all the difference!!

Clay

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 [Original Message]
 From: Bev Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 4/14/2005 1:23:05 AM
 Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins

 Alice wrote:

  A common mistake of the beginner is to be so happy to have reached the
 *end*, that they don't want to continue on for another couple repeats.

 LOL - this is what put me off trying the methods in 'Het Lassen' - which I
 invested in because I didn't like the joins I was making with tying knots
 or doing sewings (butting beginning to end). I couldn't imagine making
 more repeats than necessary -- time passes, that was then, this is now,
 and I quite enjoy the chance to make more repeats than a complete
 perimeter, and don't even mind that some of the extra will be cut away. I
 think of the 'extras' as a means to the end (quite literally).

  True, the actual overlap used is just a couple rows, but the end result
 will be not as neat if there is little choice of sewing pathway.

 You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
 course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
 in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --
 bye for now
 Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
 Cdn. floral bobbins
 www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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Re: [lace] overlap joins

2005-04-14 Thread Barb ETx
I thought I was the only one who did that...  (VBG)  I do not start
counting repeats until I had at least two under my belt.  Actually, I do not
do it too often, but some patterns seem to require overlapping.
 BArbE
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  To: Bev Walker ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:00 PM
  Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins


  Bev wrote -

You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
  course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
  in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --  


  SO true!!  And if you're still hesitant, think of it THIS way...  You have
  the option of which end you discard.  This way, you're not working extra
  repeats at all...  you're giving yourself the opportunity to discard the
  first two or three repeats that weren't quite as pretty as the rest of the
  work!!  The attitude makes all the difference!!

  Clay

  Clay Blackwell
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   [Original Message]
   From: Bev Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 4/14/2005 1:23:05 AM
   Subject: re: [lace] overlap joins
  
   Alice wrote:
  
A common mistake of the beginner is to be so happy to have reached the
   *end*, that they don't want to continue on for another couple repeats.
  
   LOL - this is what put me off trying the methods in 'Het Lassen' - which
I
   invested in because I didn't like the joins I was making with tying knots
   or doing sewings (butting beginning to end). I couldn't imagine making
   more repeats than necessary -- time passes, that was then, this is now,
   and I quite enjoy the chance to make more repeats than a complete
   perimeter, and don't even mind that some of the extra will be cut away. I
   think of the 'extras' as a means to the end (quite literally).
  
True, the actual overlap used is just a couple rows, but the end result
   will be not as neat if there is little choice of sewing pathway.
  
   You are giving yourself the advantage, therefore, by making 'extra.' Of
   course I have yet to test the method myself (a Flanders hanky edging lies
   in wait, just for the purpose) but I believe it! --
   bye for now
   Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
   Cdn. floral bobbins
   www.woodhavenbobbins.com
  
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[lace] Travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Knitting needles are still a 'No-No' on Australian aircraft.
Scissors of any sort, nail cutters, nailfiles, crochet hooks, and knives of 
any sort are all banned as well.

I will have my tatting shuttle with a pick end with me.  The sort with a 
tiny hook on the end are banned.

However, coming back from Norfolk Island, they confiscated a nail file - but 
left me a few safety pins - and one of them worked well for a tatting 
hook!!! :)

So I will be one of Noelene's  group - with Tatting in my Pocket ! :))
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace] Travel restrictions

2005-04-14 Thread Paul and Dona
It might depend on the airlines and airport, but I just flew Quantas and 
Virgin Blue/Pacific Blue through 3 different Australian airports and 2 
different New Zealand airports and I had knitting with me every step of the 
way and I never had any problem with it.  Now my yogurt, cheese sticks and 
dried beef jerky they took away.  We had 24 hours of flying that day and 
were hoping not have to eat airport food at every stop.  Even if you're just 
transiting through an airport they won't let you keep your snacks!  I guess 
you just never know what those nasty terrorists might do with those food 
products!  bg  Anyway, I had 5 bamboo needles with socks on them and I 
had bamboo circular needles with a shetland lace shawl on them.  I also had 
a crochet hook in my knitting bag (for those times you need help picking up 
a runaway stitch) and a darning needle.  No one batted an eyelash at any of 
it.
Dona in Asan, Guam
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: [lace] Travel restrictions


Knitting needles are still a 'No-No' on Australian aircraft.
Scissors of any sort, nail cutters, nailfiles, crochet hooks, and knives 
of any sort are all banned as well.

I will have my tatting shuttle with a pick end with me.  The sort with a 
tiny hook on the end are banned.

However, coming back from Norfolk Island, they confiscated a nail file - 
but left me a few safety pins - and one of them worked well for a tatting 
hook!!! :)

So I will be one of Noelene's  group - with Tatting in my Pocket ! 
:))

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Commeratives and Web page

2005-04-14 Thread PhaserBait
Hi all!
I've gotten a few requests for the commerative prices again, so I am going to 
post the US price sheet one more time.  If you need it for another country, 
let me know!
My WONDERFUL DH re-did the web page for this year, so if you want to see some 
of the stuff, you can hit it at http:members.aol.com/jspruitt
Some computers have trouble with this site, and you may have to add the www. 
at the beginning.
Thanks!

JoAnne Pruitt
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COMMEMORATIVE ORDER FORM
United States
Contact Person: JoAnne Pruitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALL PRICES ARE IN US DOLLARS


Roseground bobbins:
East Midland Bone: 17.90 ---
East Midland Wood 9.00 ---
Continental Wood 10.00 ---
Honiton Wood 9.00 ---


Spangles for Midland bobbins: 1.20 ---


Tatting Shuttles 11.00 
Stuart shuttles, painted by Rebecca Roush


Cover Cloths 4.25 -
Black with white webs 


Bobbin Rolls 10.00 --
Black with white webs


Sissor Holders 3.00 ---
Black with white webs


Turned Handle Items
Turned by JoAnne Pruitt, Painted by Rebecca Roush


Prickers 7.00 --


Lazy Susans 7.00 --


Latch Hooks 7.00 --


Crochet Hooks 7.00 ---
(0.4mm) 


Shipping and Handling 3.00 


Name___ Total


Address__ JoAnne Pruitt
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[lace-chat] April 1st jokes (lace chat)

2005-04-14 Thread Helene Gannac
Jean wrote:
There's been a recent (over about the last 30-40 years) for the broadcasters
and newspapers to each carry one April fool story on 1st April and wait to
see if it was spotted. I understand that this year the BBC banned any such
broadcast, which is a shame because some were so implausible that people did
believe them - probably the most famous being the story about harvesting
spaghetti from spaghetti trees in Italy broadcast on one of the BBCs most
serious programmes in the days before spaghetti was common in the UK.


There was a wonderful talk on the radio in Melbourne this year. It was a repeat
of one they had in the States, must have been last year as they get their 1st
April after us, so couldn't be this year. It was all about maple trees
exploding if they starting being tapped for syrup when they are too old. DH and
I were in stitches listening to the recounting of an explosion that was heard
50 miles away, bewaaing of tapping an unknown tree in cas it exploded, people
being blown away by explosions...Great one!

I still remember one year when I was young, in France, when they had an
announcement on the radio (no TV yet, that dates me!) about the Eiffel Tower
having been bought by an American millionaire and being dismantled bottom part
first Of cours, that gave the game away, but not to everyone, it seems! Our
neighbour came in and he was terribly concerned about the government selling
the Eiffel Tower

Yours in rainy Melbourne, after weeks of beautiful sunshine,

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com

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[lace-chat] :-) Canadian humour

2005-04-14 Thread Jean Nathan
One of DH's friends sent him some photos of signs, etc in Canada. 
Unfortunately I can't send them  to Arachne, but the text in each one is the 
funny part:

District of Vancouver Bylaw 5981-11(i) - Attention Dog Guardians: Pick up 
after your dogs. Thank you. Attention Dogs: Gr, bark, woof. Good dog.

Saskatoon Steaks, Fish Wild Game advertising poster - There's plenty of 
room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes.

Notice on the wall of a bar: Don't drop cigarette ends on the floor, as 
they burn the hands and knees of customers as they leave. Notice - Public 
bar. Our public bar is presently not open because it is closed.

Toms' Shell garage (gas station): Regular ARM.9, Plus LEG.9, Premium First 
Born.9

At the side of the road, in very large letters: CAUTION THIS SIGN HAS SHARP 
EDGES. DO NOT TOUCH THE EDGES OF THIS SIGN iN VERY SMALL LETTERS AT THE 
BOTTOM: Also, the bridge is out ahead

Ontario car number plate (license plate) WAS HIS
Jean in Poole 

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list

2005-04-14 Thread Jaqui Borg
Here here!! Glad someone else thinks the same as I do.
Good one Clay
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From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [lace] Camilla's Hats and a quiet list


Actually, the UK Lace Guild's convention would explain the silence from 
the
UK, but NOT the blissful silence from the US.  Meanwhile, I got dozens of
private emails thanking me for speaking out about ceasing the discussion
regarding the IOLI name change and taking it to Denver where it belonged.

But - alas - the subject appeared yet again this morning, so I suppose 
that
the delete key will just have to stay active!!

Meanwhile, I am impressed at the lack of interest on the part of the press
for the union of Prince Charles and the rotweiller.  I laughed
uproariously at the descriptions of the feathered hats worn by the hoity
toity on Saturday, but on a search of the internet could only find one
picture of a guest - the daughter of the rotweiller - and the descriptions
were accurate!!  Incredible what some people do in the name of fashion.
Her headdress looked like a pile of undercooked fettucini nested on one
side of her head!!
OK - I've been naughty, but after their 35 years of in your face
misbehavior, that's small potatoes!!
Clay
Clay Blackwell
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[Original Message]
From: Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lace@arachne.com; lace-chat@arachne.com
Date: 4/11/2005 7:19:55 PM
Subject: [lace] Camilla's Hats
Now I know why the list was quiet over the weekend - the
UK Lace Guild's convention was on. I hope someone will
report on the high-lights of the weekend. I suppose I can
read about when my magazine arrives. My I.O.L.I. Bulletin
has yet to arrive though.
Anyway, the weather here in Tartu was dreary both days.
DH surprised me by watching the live telecast of the Royal
Wedding all the way through. I finished knitting a scarf at
the same time. Camilla's first hat was described as being
a straw hat covered with French lace  it was quite elegant.
Then when she appeared at the chapel with what I would've
called grass instead of feathers I was a little disappointed.
I would have chosen something more befitting of a Duchess.
What did other viewers think?
I just hope that we see some sunshine this week. The snow
has all gone,  the crocuses  snow-bells are blooming.
Regards,
Penelope Piip
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[lace-chat] Raffle

2005-04-14 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
Hello All,

Well I think I should get into this thing about raffles, I bought 3 books from
a lady and she sent me 5, one of them I don't think that I will ever use so I
thought to myselfanyway is is called The Technique of Branscombe Point
Lace by Lillie D. Trivett, it is a hardback book and I would love for it to go
to a good home.  I am still learning bobbin lace, no need for other lace.   If
you want to be put in, please email me, whoever wins I will send the book out
on the first, so you have a couple of weeks.  Good Luck.

Lynn
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[lace-chat] the story behind the facts of railroad tracks

2005-04-14 Thread Alice Howell
The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet 8.5 
inches.  That's an exceedingly odd number.

Why was the gauge used?  Because that's the way they built them in England, 
and English expatriates built the US railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?  Because the first rail lines 
were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and 
that's the gauge they used.

Why did 'they' use that gauge then?  Because the people who built the 
tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, 
which used that wheel spacing.

Okay!  Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?  Well, if 
they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some 
of the old, long distance roads in England, because that's the spacing of 
the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads?  The first long distance roads in 
Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their legions.  The 
roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts?  Roman war chariots first made the initial ruts, which 
everyone else had to match for fear of detstroying their wagon wheels and 
wagons.  Since the chariots were made for, or by, Imperial Rome, they were 
all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

Thus we have the answer to the original question.  The United States 
standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original 
specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

Specifications and bureaucracies live forever.  So, the next time you are 
handed a specification and wonder which horse's rear came up with it, you 
may be exactly right.  Because the Imperial Roman war chariots were made 
just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war-horses.

And now, the twist to the story .
There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges and 
horses' behinds.  When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, 
there are two big booster rockets arrached to the sides of the main fuel 
tank.  These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.

Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory in Utah.  The engineers who 
designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the 
SRBs had to be shipped by rail from the factory to the launch site.  The 
railroad line from the factory had to run through a tunnel in the 
mountains.  The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.  The tunnel is 
slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track is about as 
wide as two horses' behinds.

So, the major design feaature of what is auguably the world's most advanced 
transportation system was determined by the width of a Horse's ass!

Souce unknown.  I found it buried in my paper files.  Have a laugh and a 
good day.
Alice in Oregon

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[lace-chat] SP Thanks

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Megan Jenkinson
Dear Secret Pal,

I've just heard from my friend at home, that my parcel has arrived safely.
She told me what the contents were and they sound delightful, I'm so looking
forward to seeing all my goodies, instead of just hearing about them.   Thank
you very much.

As you can see, we're still abroad, but our time away is almost at an end.
We have enjoyed ourselves, but will be glad to get home and see our family
again.

Till next month,

Cheers,

Megan

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thank You

2005-04-14 Thread JMMAcademy
   What a great secret pal.  I got my package today.  To start with the lady 
bug and the ladybug Welcome garden stake are so  precious.  The ladybug 
buttons will have to go on something very special.  The parasol sachet is in my 
drawer and the shampoo, conditioner, and washrag are in my bathroom.  The 
celestrel bobbin is on my pillow for my new project and the notepad is on my 
desk.  I 
love that Scripture so much.  The coffee has already been drank with my honey 
bunch.   Thank You so much you made my day after spending 4 hours of having 
tests run at the hospital.   Thank You so much.Hannah

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[lace-chat] Commeratives and Web page

2005-04-14 Thread PhaserBait
Hi all!
I've gotten a few requests for the commerative prices again, so I am going to 
post the US price sheet one more time.  If you need it for another country, 
let me know!
My WONDERFUL DH re-did the web page for this year, so if you want to see some 
of the stuff, you can hit it at http:members.aol.com/jspruitt
Some computers have trouble with this site, and you may have to add the www. 
at the beginning.
Thanks!

JoAnne Pruitt
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COMMEMORATIVE ORDER FORM
United States
Contact Person: JoAnne Pruitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALL PRICES ARE IN US DOLLARS


Roseground bobbins:
East Midland Bone: 17.90 ---
East Midland Wood 9.00 ---
Continental Wood 10.00 ---
Honiton Wood 9.00 ---


Spangles for Midland bobbins: 1.20 ---


Tatting Shuttles 11.00 
Stuart shuttles, painted by Rebecca Roush


Cover Cloths 4.25 -
Black with white webs 


Bobbin Rolls 10.00 --
Black with white webs


Sissor Holders 3.00 ---
Black with white webs


Turned Handle Items
Turned by JoAnne Pruitt, Painted by Rebecca Roush


Prickers 7.00 --


Lazy Susans 7.00 --


Latch Hooks 7.00 --


Crochet Hooks 7.00 ---
(0.4mm) 


Shipping and Handling 3.00 


Name___ Total


Address__ JoAnne Pruitt
2480 22nd Ave.
__ Marion Ia. 52302
USA
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