Re: [lace] lace tools
yes that's the exact same one I bought - except here it costs the equivelent of $11.71 jenny barron trying not to feel ripped off Elaine Chock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is what you're looking for. I found one in my local needlework shop. This is from Nordic Needle, and I'm sure they mail their products all over the world. http://www.nordicneedle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=300-700-0001Category_Code=E12-00-00Product_Count=13 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] garters
Hi Dona and everyone, I am making a garter for my niece, I tried one earlier
and had done a one piece strip with holes to thread the ribbon and elastic
but didn't like the way the ribbon bunched when gathered.
The one I am doing currently is using the lucky horseshoe pattern, have done
one strip of about a 36 inches and just begun the second strip, I intend to
sew both pieces to eitherside of a double ribbon with elastic threaded
through the middle. I suggestion made by my ex teacher, hope it works
well!! Haven't got that far yet. I will use blue ribbon or at least a blue
bow motif to sew on at the end.
I will have to see if I can find a reasonable throw away one, don't know if
our couple will want to do that or not, but good to be prepared.
I enjoyed reading your helpful suggestions as this will be my first
completed garter made for a bride, maybe not my last, I have quite a lot of
nieces:-) I am going to 'lend' the bride the bridal hanky I made and also
provide a packet of tissues. My hanky for carrying not for wiping:-) then
it can be returned and loaned out to the next family bride.
Sue T in chilly Dorset UK, but no snow:-)
Hi Dona and everyone
First off, not to worry if the question has been asked before - ask
away...
So, for the first few questions...would 1.5 inches be a wide enough lace?
Yes, if you are attaching it to ribbon ('something blue' presumably)
If the lace is narrow, choose wide ribbon.
And
exactly how is the lace attached to the elastic?
It does depend a bit on the lace, whether you are gathering it or not.
Looking at your pattern 'Marjory' I should think you wouldn't want to
make more than necessary
I'll let others answer about the attaching.
And I'm assuming the length
should be based on the measurement of her thigh x how much?
again, depends on if you are gathering the lace. The length I'm
working on, a Torchon repeat, will be lightly gathered, and I'm
making 1 metre. The bride-to-be has been shy about telling me her leg
measurement so I'm going by that recommended by V. Sorensen in 75
Quick and Easy Patterns. For my lace I could even thread the
ribbon/elastic in as I go, in the middle area (I haven't done this
yet). For a picture or two, see my blog, url below.
The pattern we
are currently looking at is called Marjory, found in 100 Traditional
Bobbin
Lace Patterns by Stott and Cook.
There is a lot of weaving going on in the petal areas, might be time
consuming in the long run? Have a look at Maybuds a few pages earlier,
or Lucky Horseshoes near the beginning - both have less areas of solid
weaving (eliminate the tallies in the Maybuds) and will work up more
quickly. If you go with Lucky Horseshoes you can make quite a bit and
gather it more fully, for a garter.
I made a hanky edging for a bride with the pattern Celebration, and
made another bride a length of 'Wedding Bells' - both times with a
time limit, and it wasn't fun trying to hurry the lace. My favourite
when time is short is to make the Little Hearts pattern. It works up
quickly and is an interesting repeat.
The idea is to work the lace in silk using white Au Ver A Soie with a
blue
gimp, hopefully in Soie Perlee. I've not checked yet to see if that is
available. Is this a reasonable plan?
It sounds reasonable if you can get the thread. Silk is lovely to work
with.
For future reference, don't forget to have a 'throwaway' garter on
hand if the groom is going to toss the garter ;)
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Fw: [lace] lace tools
I have a little tool on a wooden handle which lifts my pins out of the pillows and pattern which I bought from someone giving up lacework, but I have just seen what is probably similar listed in a UK price list Tim Parker also expect SMP Lace to supply similar for 2.25 pounds GB. I would hate to be without mine. Also have a similar thing for pushing pins in, although I have seen some which do both. Not very expensive in the scheme of things. Sue T, Dorset UK I think this is what you're looking for. I found one in my local needlework shop. This is from Nordic Needle, and I'm sure they mail their products all over the world. http://www.nordicneedle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=300-700-0001Category_Code=E12-00-00Product_Count=13 At 06:31 AM 3/12/2006, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hello Jenny Just where did you find that gadget? I have similar fingernails. Brenda On 11 Mar 2006, at 19:33, Jenny Barron wrote: Just discovered a new lace tool today. I bought a needle tugger meant for pulling needles through thick fabric and spotted the potential for pulling pins out of the pillow - I'd use tweezers but it puts my teeth on edge - it's basically a thin plastic tube you put over the pin and pinch and then pull out. I suffer from nails that peel and shred when I pull out any quantity of pins so I think this is going to save my nails jenny barron Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] Re: more on garter lace
I had a garter which is shown in one photo, but I think it was loaned from my sister. If it had been mine it would have been stored in my keepsakes box along with the big musical horseshoe my Mother in Law bought. I have seen several garters hanging from car mirrors though:-) Sue T, Dorset UK My hubby and I had just a small, family wedding. There weren't particularly any bachelors to catch my garter so we kept it. DH hung it from his rear view mirror!! It stayed there until it disintegrated from the sunlight hitting it. It was a store-bought one as I didn't know anything about hand made lace then :D As I'm working away bit by bit on the length of lace for the garter, I keep reminding myself that only a few key people are ever going to see it up close. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] I'M NEW TOO.
Hi, I'm Helen, and I live in Queensland, Australia. I've just begun to learn bobbin lace - I took my first class this last weekend! I'm using Rosemary Parkin's book (I think she is now Rosemary Shepherd, but my book is rather old) and am really taking 'baby steps'. My problem is finding supplies - particularly bobbins. There are only 2 or 3 Australian suppliers with web sites, and trying to find suppliers without websites is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I did find a chap in Tasmania (Malcolm Fielding's Lace Bobbin Shop) who makes beautiful spangles bobbins from Australian woods for $12 each. Considering the work he puts into them they seem well worth it. I just need to get some basic ones now though. My Botany tutor at U3A saw me reading Rosemary's book before class yesterday, and said that she used to do bobbin lace years ago but no longer has time for it. I have offered to buy her bobbins from her - not sure how many she has. Didn't think to offer to buy her pillow, but will do that next week. In the meantime, if anyone knows of web sites for Austraian suppliers, I would be very grateful. Helen, who is off to *try* and do some more 'homework'. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: more on garter lace
Hi T! Just a thought to chew on. When my son got married I made his darling bride a garter. A very dear friend of mine designed and made a pair of wedding moths for them. (In England they sew lace bits to the wedding dress or veil) Our local Hallmark store (a popular greeting card co. in the US) was showing a shadow box that was about 8 or 9 square. Perfect! I mounted the garter in a circle with the 'wedding moths' in the center 'flying' around the six pence that we had taped to her shoe. So it kind of looked like a picture. She was very happy with the whole thing and as far as I know they are still carrying the shadow box. It came in white and I seem to remember another color but can't remember what it was. T, I also gave her a cheap garter to throw. ;-) Back to packing! bobbi PS. I usually take a photo of the lace in process and then a finished one and give it with the garter. Everyone that I've done that for seems thrilled with the pictures. That reminds me of one of the most engaging entries at the VA State Fair I've ever seen. It was a shadow-box, in which several wedding memorabilia had been mounted. There was a smallish wedding photo (surrounded by lace), the groom's lapel bouquet (spell?) with a lace frill and the garter (can't remember whether the ring pillow was there or not, and I'm pretty sure that the hankie wasn't). I do remember how struck I was by the idea and how surprised -- how come she got too keep the garter? The recent on-and-off discussions of garters has answered my question: she must have had one (machine made) for throwing and one (hand made) for to keep... But, once you've kept the real thing, what do you do with it? Mounting it like that, with other mementos, to hang on a wall seems like a good solution to me. ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] I'M NEW TOO.
Hi Helen, Welcome to the world of lacemaking - you'll find there are quite a few Australian lacemakers on Arachne. I've emailed you privately about Australian suppliers, most of whom don't have web sites. And a lot of us were in the same boat when we started - not knowing where to get cheap, everyday bobbins to get going with. Don't be afraid to ask about anything to do with lace here, you'll find Arachne members will always be able to help you. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm Helen, and I live in Queensland, Australia. I've just begun to learn bobbin lace - I took my first class this last weekend! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bobbin makers
Sorry about the confusion! Yes, Richard Worthen is providing the commemoratives at the Spring NCRL lace day. I was referring to the FALL lace day in my note! Richard's bobbins have a consistent design and are beautifully finished. When made for commemoratives, he has them engraved by laser, for a truly elegant look. His bobbins are mostly a variety of hardwoods with inlays of other materials and beads. He also carries a number of very nice lacemaker's tools and display items. Richard does not have a website but can be reached by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA CLIVE Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = No, the Registration for NCRL says Richard Worthen will provide the commemorative bobbin at a cost of $9 each. I don't know his address or contact and suggested that you, Clay, provide that to the list. B.A. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] bobbin makers Yes! Fran is an excellent choice. I believe (could be wrong...) that she is providing the commemoratives for the NCRL Fall Lace Day this year. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: more on garter lace
Ooh I've never heard of these customs for weddings, what is the significance of them? jenny barron Sunny NE Scotland Roberta S Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A very dear friend of mine designed and made a pair of wedding moths for them. the six pence that we had taped to her shoe. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace tools
Jenny Barron wrote: yes that's the exact same one I bought - except here it costs the equivelent of $11.71 -- trying not to feel ripped off But you would have to add postage to the $7.50 so you probably didn't pay that much more. Malvary in OTtawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bobbin makers
Hello all, I am new to this list. My name is Agnes Boddington. My husband and I make bobbins: he handturns the bobbins and I spangle them. We use native woods, such as Copper Beech, Alder, Ash and tropical hardwoods, e.g. Leadwood, Piquia Amarillo. We have approx. 30 different woods at the moment. We sell mainly through eBay, but also take direct orders, often as a result of eBay sales. My eBay ID is 1eskarina1. If you want some idea of our bobbins, you can have a look by searching for the ID. We sell direct for £3.00 per pair of spangled bobbins (or £1.50 each). At the moment we only do Midland bobbins, but can do continentals as well. So, if anyone is interested, I can be contacted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agnes - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New member Agnes
Hi, Agnes. Welcome to the List! It's good to add a new name to the bobbin maker list. However, tell us a bit about yourself. Do you make lace? If so, what kind or how did you get started? If not, how did you get started making lace bobbins? It's a rather specilized product. I know that lace is better known in the UK than in my area, but most wood workers here have never heard of bobbins. We're glad you joined the list. If you ever have any questions on lacemaking, this is the group to ask. We don't guarantee an answer, but most of the time you can get a good answer. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon -- where it's damp and gray today --- Agnes Boddington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am new to this list. My name is Agnes Boddington. My husband and I make bobbins: he handturns the bobbins and I spangle them. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI in Montreal
For those of you who are planning on attending IOLI in Montreal this summer, you may be interested in this month's Gourmet Magazine. They have featured Montreal as their travel destination. Lots of good information about the city and you can get a feel for the joie de vivre for which the city is noted. Montreal is certainly one of my favourite cities with its energy, style and charm. Gail Young from Canada's capital, Ottawa, just a 2-hour drive away from downtown Montreal. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Free pattern (DP)
Hi everyone, I just want to announce that our L.A.C.E. guild website has a simple free pattern which would be good for an Easter gift. It is my design, and you have my permission to use it as you like. Put it in your guild newsletter or make as many as you want, maybe to sell. I made at least 10 last year and they sold well at craft fairs placed in frames from the dollar store. See url below my signature. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] About me!
Hello everyone, I have been asked to introduce myself and how my husband and i got to make lace bobbins. Well, for starters I am Dutch and he is English, and live in the UK near the City of Hull on the East Coast. We have two grown-up children (daughter working and son at uni), a mad labrador called Megan and a red-pepper addicted ancient guinea pig called Eskarina-the-Wizard-Witch (anyone who reads Terry Pratchett will know who this is). I started lace making about ten years ago, doing a community education course in the village. My husband has always done woodwork and promised me for years that he would have a go at turning some bobbins for me. However, work took over a lot of both our time and nothing came of this and my lace stuff got rather dusty. Mike took voluntary redundancy at work, and I scaled down my foreign and english language teaching, so we could both have some more free time. So, Mike finally started to turn bobbins last year and I went back to lace making, having to teach myself all over again. However, some friends then also got interested in bobbins and lace, and since then there has been no stopping him, and I started to sell bobbins on ebay. We try to keep them affordable, do not claim them to be pieces of art, but very functional, nice looking bobbins. I am going to try my hand at Bucks lace this year, having booked a course with Christine Springett in June and I am quite looking forward to that. Well, that's us, for now at least. Regards, Agnes - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2006 #79
Hi all, My husband has made several different lovely continental bobbins for me. He started to try it with a German-made lathe attachment for his electric drill we got when living in Holland. That was not so successful and it was more than 15 years later that he had a chance to take a workshop with David Springett here in California. I was so surprised that he could make a bone bobbin, among others in the first day. I learned to spangle them and will eventually have enough to use. I tried the workshop with him two years later, and he haad bought a proper lathe after the first workshop. I don't have time for it now, but he does it once in a while. The continental ones he does have such a lovely smooth finish and feel so good to use. The thread stays on just fine, as i use a double hitch on the bobbin before winding. I have always done that and it prevents the bobbins from escaping and allows me to work close to the end of the thread. We won't be able to sell any until he retires AND learns to make them all the same size!! For myself I don't mind as I have always mixed all sorts of continental styles of bobbins. Paula Harten in wet Morgan Hill, California Paula - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace tools
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:18, Malvary J Cole wrote: Jenny Barron wrote: yes that's the exact same one I bought - except here it costs the equivelent of $11.71 -- trying not to feel ripped off But you would have to add postage to the $7.50 so you probably didn't pay that much more. You probably paid a whole lot _less_ :) On an order of $7.50, the _domestic_ shipping/handling charge is $4.75 (or was, before our postage went up, which is when my catalogue dates to). For Canada, add $3.00 to that. For other foreign countries, actual postage is charged, _plus_ handling. Wherein is the nub of the matter... The actual postage might not be all that high, especially if you chose surface mail (2-3 months) but we don't know what the handling surcharge is. I'm guessing, but I'd think that even with surface mail, your total purchase would come to something like $15, not $11.71 :) Ordering by mail, from most vendors (at least in the US), is not worth while if your total for goods is less than $10; you're likely to pay as much in shipping as for the goods themselves are worth. The ratio improves as the value of the goods goes up, because all vendors have a cap (varies. For Nordic needle it's $75), after which you pay the same shipping charges no matter what. That's the reason why I usually wait and pile up the stuff I need before sending an order; no impulse buying of small items for me, unless I can pick them up in person :) Yours, with a $140 order in the pipeline from Holly (van Sciver), -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RTFM - should have know this!
Hi ladies (and any lurking men) Today I went back to my books and found out/confirmed the following Cloth Stitch is the same stitch as Whole Stitch - just different names Cloth/Whole Stitch is made by doing CTC Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd pages 8 and 22 The Book of Bobbin Lace Stitches by Bridget M Cook and Geraldine Stott page XVI Cloth/Whole Stitch and Twist is a DIFFERENT stitch Cloth/Whole Stitch is made by doing CTCT Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd pages 8 and 22 The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham page 9 Bobbins can be wound clockwise or anticlockwise - it does not matter as long as you are consistent Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd page 17 Torchon Ground is made by doing CTpCT Ref: The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham page 13 See what happens when I actually *read* the lace books :) I realise that I am probably preaching to the choir here but these are things I needed to clarify so hopefully my sending them to you will clarify things for someone else - before they get too confused. Jenny Brandis Kununurra Kid Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] A Tatting Mascot
Hi everyone, First Question: Does anyone know, for a fact, if there is an official mascot for tatters? If so, what is it, when was it made official and by whom? Many have used the hedgehog, as it seems to be the mascot for lacemakers, with it's quills that look like straight pins in a pin cushion on a lacemakers pillow. Since tatters are now considered lacemakers. Others say no, it's the spider with it's web. Also Mark (Tat Man) has drawn up some very cute shuttle characters. Then there is the story of the pink and green shuttles (lovers). So can any one say for sure if we have a mascot? Next question: If no one can prove what our mascot is, what do you say we get busy and find one and make it Official? Any tatting historians out there? This discussion can go on for a very long time. So - - - Let's give everyone until April 30th, 2006 to come up with proof of an official mascot. If no one can come up with proof of an official mascot then we'll start taking suggestions and ideas for one. Maybe Mark can jump in with a drawing or two. (Hint, Hint). We already have, spiders, hedgehogs, shuttle characters (which we would have to get special permission from mark to use). Later, if need be, we'll get a panel to choose a few finalists, then vote. Now, start digging for proof of an official mascot and thinking of ideas, if proof cannot be found. Also if I've missed any tatting groups out there, please pass this message on. We want every one to have a say. (As if I don't have enough things to do) LOL Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA TatPat1, NATA #333 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RTFM - should have know this!
Dear Jenny, Bobbins can be wound clockwise or anticlockwise - it does not matter as long as you are consistent Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd page 17 that's quite true, but the important things to consider then is the direction of the half-hitch which holds the thread on (this too must be consistent according to direction) and most importantly whether the direction of winding is effected by whether the thread is a Z or S twist. (here we go again...) David in Ballarat - doing much much mroe than merely lurking :) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RTFM - should have know this!
On 3/14/06, Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cloth/Whole Stitch and Twist is a DIFFERENT stitch Cloth/Whole Stitch is made by doing CTCT Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd pages 8 and 22 The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham page 9 You do mean 'cloth stitch and twist' or 'whole stitch and twist' = CTCT not an animal called 'cloth-whole-stitch (with or without a twist)' ? Just checking before you take the midterm :p Then there is the 'linen stitch' - which is CTC to some and CTCT to others, or TCTC depending on which continent. and 'whole cloth' - describing the appearance of an area worked in CTC. To make the mix more bubbly, there is 'whole throw' - which I think refers to one pass across a row of the weaver pair. Fortunately, half-stitch is always CT (or TC - depending...). Double half-stitch is CTCT or TCTC. Sometimes 'whole' stitch is CTCT (if two halves make a 'whole'), but by convention, most usually CTC. References: mostly vague recollections of books I once read, or a teachers I talked to -- Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com blogging lace at www.looonglace.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RTFM - should have know this!
Correction to what I said Cloth/Whole Stitch is made by doing CTCT Should have read: Cloth/Whole Stitch AND A TWIST is made by doing CTCT Ref: Introduction to Bobbin Lace by Rosemary Shepherd pages 8 and 22 The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham page 9 Jenny Brandis Kununurra Kid Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RTFM - should have know this!
*huge grin on my face* OMG What have I done? I thought I was clearing the mud from the water and now you have swished and stirred it all up lol I should have learned by now not to speak in absolutes when it comes to lace :) *back to normal now* You do mean 'cloth stitch and twist' or 'whole stitch and twist' = CTCT not an animal called 'cloth-whole-stitch (with or without a twist)' ? Yep, was too keen to impart my newfound wisdom :) Then there is the 'linen stitch' - which is CTC to some and CTCT to others, or TCTC depending on which continent. and 'whole cloth' - describing the appearance of an area worked in CTC. To make the mix more bubbly, there is 'whole throw' - which I think refers to one pass across a row of the weaver pair. Fortunately, half-stitch is always CT (or TC - depending...). Double half-stitch is CTCT or TCTC. Sometimes 'whole' stitch is CTCT (if two halves make a 'whole'), but by convention, most usually CTC. Ok Bev, it definitely looks like I need to keep reading. :P I only know how to do a few stitches and even they have varied names. Check out my website if you want to see why I needed to go back to basics. It is only as I was showing a beginner (even more so than me) my lace that I began to realise that I was not doing it right myself :( - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: RTFM - should have know this!
Okay, here's a brief summary: CT is half stitch. I've never heard another term for it. CTC makes woven fabric, so one of its names is cloth stitch. Those places where BL is done with linen thread call it linen stitch. The English call it whole stitch. CTCT is a different stitch. Since it is two half stitches, some people call in whole stitch. Those who consider CTC to be whole call CTCT whole stitch with a twist. I've never heard it called cloth stitch because it doesn't form weaving. Hope this helps. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thanks all
Because of all the kind notes of late, and because my name has come up in the digests I wanted to just say thank you to all who have sent love and prayers, and let you all know I am here and doing well. I had Breast Cancer but it was caught early and I am now recovering from Chemo and Radiation treatments. I hope to be painting again soon. My strength seems to be returning at about the same rate as my hair :-) Anyway thanks kind spiders for all the encouragement and I will hopefully be publishing a new catalog in the near future. Gratefully, April Lind in (sunny today) Shoreline, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] terminology (was - should have known this!)
Hi Jenny, You have jumped into the world of lacemaking terms with both feet. We're all there with you. I hope this may help sort it out. There are two schools of bobbin lacemaking -- the Continental Method and the English Method. The English terminology is: Half Stitch CT Whole StitchCTC Double Stitch CTCT (or Whole stitch plus a twist) The Continental terminology is: Half stitchTC Cloth or Linen stitch CTC Whole Stitch TCTC You can see why there is confusion about the term whole stitch. Because of this, there are many modern lacemakers who have chosen to use -- Half stitch Cloth stitch Double stitch --as the terms for the three stitches. However, you need to understand both sets of terminology so you can interpret whatever book you happen to choose to use. There are books written with both methods. (A brief note -- the term 'throw' means stitch. It's an older term and not used much now.) You may have noticed that the stitches T and C are not in the same order in the two methods. The English method is CT for half stitch, which ends each stitch with the two threads of a pair twisted. This is called the Closed Method. The Continental methods is TC for half stitch, which ends each stitch with the two threads of a pair hanging straight down. This is the Open Method. If you think about making lace on a bolster pillow, the bobbins hang down when not in use. If they had a twist on them, they would untwist as they hung. The Twist first is necessary on this type of pillow. The English laces are mostly worked on flat pillows with the bobbins lying supported. The Twist stitch will hold it's position when not being used. It may be hard to believe, but there's no way to tell which method was used when the lace is completed. A section of half stitch usually starts and ends with a twist. When doing CT, an extra twist is added at the start. When doing TC, an extra twist is added at the end. The result with both methods looks exactly the same. I hope I haven't confused you completely. You need to know that there's more than one way to talk about lacemaking, and more than one way to do most things. Choose one method to work on now, and don't worry about the other one. You may or may not ever try it. My experience has been that most people continue with the method their first teacher taught them. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon -- only 3 months till PNW Conference and there's still room in some classes. Check the Portland Lace Society webpage. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] A Tatting Mascot
wasn't there a frog mascot that was being sent around to various tatting groups? - Original Message - From: Patsy A. Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace-chat@arachne.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: [lace] A Tatting Mascot Hi everyone, First Question: Does anyone know, for a fact, if there is an official mascot for tatters? If so, what is it, when was it made official and by whom? Many have used the hedgehog, as it seems to be the mascot for lacemakers, with it's quills that look like straight pins in a pin cushion on a lacemakers pillow. Since tatters are now considered lacemakers. Others say no, it's the spider with it's web. Also Mark (Tat Man) has drawn up some very cute shuttle characters. Then there is the story of the pink and green shuttles (lovers). So can any one say for sure if we have a mascot? Next question: If no one can prove what our mascot is, what do you say we get busy and find one and make it Official? Any tatting historians out there? This discussion can go on for a very long time. So - - - Let's give everyone until April 30th, 2006 to come up with proof of an official mascot. If no one can come up with proof of an official mascot then we'll start taking suggestions and ideas for one. Maybe Mark can jump in with a drawing or two. (Hint, Hint). We already have, spiders, hedgehogs, shuttle characters (which we would have to get special permission from mark to use). Later, if need be, we'll get a panel to choose a few finalists, then vote. Now, start digging for proof of an official mascot and thinking of ideas, if proof cannot be found. Also if I've missed any tatting groups out there, please pass this message on. We want every one to have a say. (As if I don't have enough things to do) LOL Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA TatPat1, NATA #333 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: RTFM - should have know this!
On 3/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CTC makes woven fabric, so one of its names is cloth stitch. Those places where BL is done with linen thread call it linen stitch. The When I first took lace 'lessons' ages ago, my teacher whose own learning had been in Holland told us CTCT = linen stitch :( I find the terminology so disorganized that I prefer to use the lettering, e.g. 'work CTC' Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com blogging lace at www.looonglace.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] terminology
On 3/14/06, Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The English terminology is...: Double Stitch CTCT In Stillwell's dictionary, both double stitch and double half stitch are given as equal to cloth and twist (sic) and I'm just as happy calling it CTCT ! The Continental terminology is: Half stitchTC Cloth or Linen stitch CTC Whole Stitch TCTC My Dutch friend who had learned at a lace college in Amsterdam called it half, cloth and linen, and we worked it CT, CTC, CTCT. go figure. However, you need to understand both sets of terminology so you can interpret whatever book you Lacemaking terminology is so muddied, best to check the terms in whichever book the basic 'stitches' are described, and take it from there. Then there is system of colour coding, which is straightforward as long as there is a reference chart for which colour means what, on the diagram. both methods. (A brief note -- the term 'throw' means stitch In one instance where I read it in relation to BL, the author was describing completing only a CTC (or 'cloth' stitch - in handweaving terms a 'throw' is a row completed after the shuttle is thrown (across the 'web')). Do a whole throw across the row aargh. -- Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com blogging lace at www.looonglace.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thank you
Dear Secret Pal, Thankyou for your lovely parcel. The hand made scarf is very much appreciated. Our weather is starting to cool already so it will be very handy. Thank you also for the stamps, my grandson wanted to stamp them for his mum so we have already put them to good use. The chocolates were yum and the M M container will come in very handy indeed. The only containers like that that we get here are not as long so they dont prove to come in handy for many things unfortunately. The Hangtag has found a home on a new bag I have made so thank you for that also. Well, until next month, many many thanks once again. Yours Secret Pal Julie from New Zealand To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Evening Classes for Men
EVENING CLASSES FOR MEN OPEN TO MEN ONLY Note: due to the complexity and level of difficulty, each course will accept a maximum of eight participants The course covers two days, and topics covered in this course include: DAY ONE HOW TO FILL ICE CUBE TRAYS Step by step guide with slide presentation TOILET ROLLS -- DO THEY GROW ON THE HOLDERS? Roundtable discussion DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LAUNDRY BASKET FLOOR Practicing with hamper (Pictures and graphics) DISHES SILVERWARE; DO THEY LEVITATE/FLY TO KITCHEN SINK OR DISHWASHER BY THEMSELVES? Debate among a panel of experts. REMOTE CONTROL Losing the remote control - Help line and support groups LEARNING HOW TO FIND THINGS Starting with looking in the right place instead of turning the house upside down while screaming - Open forum DAY TWO EMPTY MILK CARTONS; DO THEY BELONG IN THE FRIDGE OR THE BIN? Group discussion and role play HEALTH WATCH; BRINGING HER FLOWERS IS NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH PowerPoint presentation REAL MEN ASK FOR DIRECTIONS WHEN LOST Real life testimonial from the one man who did IS IT GENETICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SIT QUIETLY AS SHE PARALLEL PARKS? Driving simulation LIVING WITH ADULTS; BASIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR PARTNER Online class and role playing HOW TO BE THE IDEAL SHOPPING COMPANION Relaxation exercises, meditation and breathing techniques REMEMBERING IMPORTANT DATES CALLING WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE LATE Bring your calendar or PDA to class GETTING OVER IT; LEARNING HOW TO LIVE WITH BEING WRONG ALL THE TIME Individual counselors available To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: Fw: southerners vs Scots
I thought this was apt as the snow leaves Scotland and travels down the UK, the last line the 6 nations refers to the Rugby Union Championship that is finishing this weekend and no Scotland will not win this year but we've done not badvbg jenny barron somewhat chilly south of Inverness Subject: southerners vs Scots 50F degrees People in southern England turn on the central heating People in Edinburgh plant out bedding plants 40F degrees Southerners shiver uncontrollably Glaswegians sunbathe on the beach at Largs 35F degrees Cars in the south of England refuse to start People in Falkirk drive with their windows down 20F degrees Southerners wear overcoats, gloves and woolly hats Aberdonian men throw on a T-shirt girls start wearing mini-skirts 15F degrees Southerners begin to evacuate to the continent People from Dundee swim in the North Sea at Broughty Ferry Zero degrees Life in the south grinds to a halt Inverness folk have the last BBQ before it gets cold Minus 10F degrees Life in the south ceases to exist People in Dunfermline throw on a light jacket Minus 80F degrees Polar bears wonder if it's worth carrying on Boy Scouts in Oban start wearing their long trousers Minus 100F degrees Santa Claus abandons North Pole People in Stirling put on their 'long johns' Minus 173F degrees Alcohol freezes Glaswegians get upset because all the pubs are shut Minus 297F degrees Microbial life starts to disappear The cows in Dumfriesshire complain about farmers with cold hands Minus 460F degrees All atomic motion stops Shetlanders stamp their feet and blow on their hands Minus 500F degrees Hell freezes over Scotland wins the 6 nations To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: Fw: southerners vs Scots
lol OTOH, I'm sure we've got more soft southerners on this list than we have people from Scotland ;o) There're certainly more active posters from the south, even just those that give their address as Dorset (inc. me, sometimes) than there are people who put Scotland as their address! :- Helen At 15:09 14/03/2006, Jenny Barron wrote: Subject: southerners vs Scots Helen, Somerset, UK Forget the formulae, let's make lace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/2006 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Free pattern (DP)
Hi everyone, I just want to announce that our L.A.C.E. guild website has a simple free pattern which would be good for an Easter gift. It is my design, and you have my permission to use it as you like. Put it in your guild newsletter or make as many as you want, maybe to sell. I made at least 10 last year and they sold well at craft fairs placed in frames from the dollar store. See url below my signature. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] A Tatting Mascot
Hi everyone, First Question: Does anyone know, for a fact, if there is an official mascot for tatters? If so, what is it, when was it made official and by whom? Many have used the hedgehog, as it seems to be the mascot for lacemakers, with it's quills that look like straight pins in a pin cushion on a lacemakers pillow. Since tatters are now considered lacemakers. Others say no, it's the spider with it's web. Also Mark (Tat Man) has drawn up some very cute shuttle characters. Then there is the story of the pink and green shuttles (lovers). So can any one say for sure if we have a mascot? Next question: If no one can prove what our mascot is, what do you say we get busy and find one and make it Official? Any tatting historians out there? This discussion can go on for a very long time. So - - - Let's give everyone until April 30th, 2006 to come up with proof of an official mascot. If no one can come up with proof of an official mascot then we'll start taking suggestions and ideas for one. Maybe Mark can jump in with a drawing or two. (Hint, Hint). We already have, spiders, hedgehogs, shuttle characters (which we would have to get special permission from mark to use). Later, if need be, we'll get a panel to choose a few finalists, then vote. Now, start digging for proof of an official mascot and thinking of ideas, if proof cannot be found. Also if I've missed any tatting groups out there, please pass this message on. We want every one to have a say. (As if I don't have enough things to do) LOL Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA TatPat1, NATA #333 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] secret pal
To my secret pal in England, Once again, you have outdone yourself. I love the tin of mints, and the picture on the front is precious, I love animals and I live in an house in an apartment complex and am not allowed, I do however, have a black stray cat that comes around and I feed her. Who would fix a cat and put them on the street, oops I am getting off the subject g anyway, The bobbin is already on my bobbin tree, I made it out of a ring and candle stand. Oops sorry again, the bobbin key ring is so lovely and the sachet smells wonderful...and Hagerstown, Md. is just up the road a few hours away from us. Thank you again for your gifts, I will treasure them..I am still in love with the crochet hook. Bye for now, Lynn in West Virginia. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Medical Examinations
Medical Examinations 1. A man comes into the ER and yells, My wife's going to have her baby in the cab! I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady's dress, and began to take off her underwear. Suddenly I noticed that there were several cabs -and I was in the wrong one. Submitted by Dr. Mark MacDonald, San Antonio, TX. 2. At the beginning of my shift I placed a stethoscope on an elderly and slightly deaf female patient's anterior chest wall. Big breaths, I instructed. Yes, they used to be, replied the patient. Submitted by Dr. Richard Byrnes, Seattle, WA 3. One day I had to be the bearer of bad news when I told a wife that her husband had died of a massive myocardial infarct. Not more than five minutes later, I heard her reporting to the rest of the family that he had died of a massive internal fart. Submitted by Dr. Susan Steinberg, Manitoba, Canada 4. During a patient's two week follow-up appointment with his cardiologist, he informed me, his doctor, that he was having trouble with one of his medications. Which one? I asked. The patch. The nurse told me to put on a new one every six hours and now I'm running out of places to put it! I had him quickly undress and discovered what I hoped I wouldn't see. Yes, the man had over fifty patches on his body! Now, the instructions include removal of the old patch before applying a new one. Submitted by Dr. Rebecca St. Clair, Norfolk, VA 5. While acquainting myself with a new elderly patient, I asked, How long have you been bedridden? After a look of complete confusion she answered...Why, not for about twenty years - when my husband was alive. Submitted by Dr. Steven Swanson, Corvallis, OR 6. I was caring for a woman and asked, So how's your breakfast this morning? It's very good, except for the Kentucky Jelly. I can't seem to get used to the taste the patient replied. I then asked to see the jelly and the woman produced a foil packet labeled KY Jelly. Submitted by Dr. Leonard Kransdorf, Detroit, MI 7. A nurse was on duty in the Emergency Room, when a young woman with purple hair styled into a punk rocker Mohawk, sporting a variety of tattoos, and wearing strange clothing, entered. It was quickly determined that the patient had acute appendicitis, so she was scheduled for immediate surgery. When she was completely disrobed on the operating table, the staff noticed that her pubic hair had been dyed green, and above it there was a tattoo that read, Keep off the grass. Once the surgery was completed, the surgeon wrote a short note on the patient's dressing, which said, Sorry, had to mow the lawn. Submitted by RN no name AND FINALLY!!! 8. As a new, young MD doing his residency in OB, I was quite embarrassed when performing female pelvic exams. To cover my embarrassment I had unconsciously formed a habit of whistling softly. The middle-aged lady upon whom I was performing this exam suddenly burst out laughing and further embarrassing me. I looked up from my work and sheepishly said, I'm sorry. Was I tickling you? She replied, No doctor, but the song you were whistling was, I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener. Dr. wouldn't submit his name. ~~ Betty Ann Rice, RN of Roanoke, Virginia USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] A Tatting Mascot
wasn't there a frog mascot that was being sent around to various tatting groups? - Original Message - From: Patsy A. Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace-chat@arachne.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: [lace] A Tatting Mascot Hi everyone, First Question: Does anyone know, for a fact, if there is an official mascot for tatters? If so, what is it, when was it made official and by whom? Many have used the hedgehog, as it seems to be the mascot for lacemakers, with it's quills that look like straight pins in a pin cushion on a lacemakers pillow. Since tatters are now considered lacemakers. Others say no, it's the spider with it's web. Also Mark (Tat Man) has drawn up some very cute shuttle characters. Then there is the story of the pink and green shuttles (lovers). So can any one say for sure if we have a mascot? Next question: If no one can prove what our mascot is, what do you say we get busy and find one and make it Official? Any tatting historians out there? This discussion can go on for a very long time. So - - - Let's give everyone until April 30th, 2006 to come up with proof of an official mascot. If no one can come up with proof of an official mascot then we'll start taking suggestions and ideas for one. Maybe Mark can jump in with a drawing or two. (Hint, Hint). We already have, spiders, hedgehogs, shuttle characters (which we would have to get special permission from mark to use). Later, if need be, we'll get a panel to choose a few finalists, then vote. Now, start digging for proof of an official mascot and thinking of ideas, if proof cannot be found. Also if I've missed any tatting groups out there, please pass this message on. We want every one to have a say. (As if I don't have enough things to do) LOL Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA TatPat1, NATA #333 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
