[lace] Wire as "thread" (was: Newbie)
On May 20, 2006, at 22:43, Jenny Brandis wrote:
Here is the "translated" version:
http://tinyurl.com/rja2c
Tee hee. Mine said: "This page has been automatically translated from
French (by Google)." And "View the Original Web Page". Which was in a
click-able format, so I did. They _both_ are "French to me"; no
translation has taken place, as far as I can see :)
Then check out Tricks & Easy Ways.
Couldn't find it, even in French (I don't speak it, but I do recognize
some basic words)
A Model to me is a tall, slender person who walks on the platform
showing
off clothes - not a pattern or pricking.
"Showing" is the key word; in Polish, "to model" means "to present" (as
in: "to show") The word "model" for "pattern" is used in several
European languages (German and Danish for example). The skinny young
thing mincing down the catwalk is showing one example of a pattern by a
designer.
Wire to me is metal, not something as fine as lace thread :)
I work mostly with 32 gauge (0.2mm), single-ply wire. It behaves
differently than cotton/linen/silk threads do (though each of those has
its own quirks also) but it's, probably, an equivalent of 50/2 cotton
thread. Susan Lambiris:
http://home.earthlink.net/~slambiris/
works with 34 gauge (0.16mm) which, at least for pin-spacing, is about
the same as 80/2 cotton. Not the finest by lacemaking standards, but no
"rope", either :)
Which has just made me think -
to make a thread the fibre is spun, then two or more of these threads
can
be plied together the same technique is used to make string, rope,
cables etc.
So why are then not all called thread?
Because we expect "thread" to be very, very pliable and soft; when it's
not, we don't call it "thread" anymore. When thread has many plies, we
call it "string", "rope", "cord" or "cable" ("cable" is also the term
used for multi-plied wire; another crossover between the fibers)
The single plies of fine wire are quite close to (non-metal) thread in
behaviour; they just do not need to be plied for strength in working as
quickly as non-metal "threads" do.
--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace] Newbie
From: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wow, no wonder people have trouble with the English language! > I *know* the words are in English it is the content I am having a > chuckleover. > A Model to me is a tall, slender person who walks on the platform > showingoff clothes - not a pattern or pricking. Wire to me is > metal, not something as fine as lace thread :) Well, a model to me is a miniature of something (like a model airplane) and wire can be extremely thin...but-- "the circumference of the fuseliere can be decorated at the points with crayfish"?! and "elastic wire"? Jenny, anthing threadlike that's heavier is cord or string (or yarn, if it's fuzzy). Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Spangling without wire
On May 20, 2006, at 17:46, Cearbhael wrote: I am not fond of the look of crimp beads in jewelry...would rather learn how to do wrapping with wire on the end (or fancy hang man noose type of knots?) If you're a member of IOLI, the next (July) Bulletin will have a drawing/short instructions on how to wrap and securely finish off a wire (use a Magic Loop . I think tatters have been using that technique for ages). But I'm not sure how useful it will be vis-a-vis spangling. Spangles are best when the beads are tightly packed, and I think that the "wrap and pull with Magic Loop" method needs a bit of room to maneouvre. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] crimping beads made pretty
I should have added that there is also crimp covers available that cover the crimp and gives the finished look of a solid metal bead - see www.beads hop.com/learnonline/pdf/CrimpCover.pdf for a clear photographic tutorial. Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au Lace Making in the Kimberley Region of Western Australia Index http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Please (Archives)
On May 20, 2006, at 22:48, Maxine Diffey wrote: Can someone please direct me to the archives - I missed a weeks worth of digests due to a major ISP crash. I'm replying on-list, just in case others don't have the site/s bookmarked or don't know we do have the archives: For lace (the technical "face" of lacemaking): http://www.mail-archive.com/lace%40arachne.com/ For lace-chat (lacemakers on non-lacemaking subjects): http://www.mail-archive.com/lace-chat%40arachne.com/ -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Oldest UFO
On May 20, 2006, at 11:44, Margot Walker wrote: On Saturday, May 20, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: who has the oldest UFO still on a pillow I may have the youngest UFO - I just started a project 1 hour ago. Four or 5 years ago I made a vow not to start a new piece of lace before I'd finished an old one - in other words, no UFOs Me 2 :) For the 1st year of my "lacemaking career" -- until I found suppliers -- I only had as many bobbins as I could force myself to carve by hand. And, even after I found suppliers and stopped wasting time on carving bobbins, I couldn't afford to go hog-wild buying good pillows (the one I made was -- and is -- v. good, but wasted a lot of lacemaking time, and used up all the excelsior I'd kept from my "dowry crate" ). So, from the beginning (1989), it has always been down to "scissors or slog". By the time I built up my bobbin "stash" and got a couple more pillows, the habit of finishing an old project before starting a new one was so deeply ingrained (and proved so successful in curbing my wishy-washy, Libra-ish nature ), I never saw much reason to change it. The duplicate pillows/extra bobbins come in handy to take to workshops but, if I come back with an unfinished workshop project, it gets the same scrutiny as all the others: snip or finish. I did, once, keep a pillow and 40+ prs of bobbins prisoner to a project that I'd started and was reluctant to cut off because it was pretty. "Maybe I'll come back to it one day" I thought. But new projects/ideas kept crowding that one out and, when I finally did try to go back to it after 18months, I found that I had to learn all the techniques/insights from scratch, because I'd forgotten everything... For the birds :) So it got snipped off and I've been unwinding the bobbins and using the thread elsewhere, as needed, ever since (5yrs). Have reclaimed 30 prs so far :) My only UFOs are the sewing (clothes) ones but sewing (and needlepoint and miniatures) had, essentially, "gone out the window" when I started making lace. It just took me longer to get resigned to the realities (like: until I die and go to heaven, I will only have one pair of hands. There are only 24 hrs in a day, and I like to spend at least 6 of them sleeping and another 2 eating and reading. Etc) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Please
Can someone please direct me to the archives - I missed a weeks worth of digests due to a major ISP crash. Thanks Maxine Maxine Diffey [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Newbie
Here is the "translated" version: http://tinyurl.com/rja2c Then check out Tricks & Easy Ways. Wow, no wonder people have trouble with the English language! I *know* the words are in English it is the content I am having a chuckle over. A Model to me is a tall, slender person who walks on the platform showing off clothes - not a pattern or pricking. Wire to me is metal, not something as fine as lace thread :) Which has just made me think - to make a thread the fibre is spun, then two or more of these threads can be plied together the same technique is used to make string, rope, cables etc. So why are then not all called thread? I am guessing it has to be the thickness and/or composition of the "thread" But that is my "Jenny question" for DH when I see him (I love to stump him with this sort of "Jenny logic") Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au Lace Making in the Kimberley Region of Western Australia Index http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Hiatus
I too have had to stop making lace for 18 months or so. two weddings and two hardanger tablecloths later, I can almost see my way clear to start again. I finished the last cloth last Friday night, and I am very pleased with it :-) now to go back to the remnant of a class on Honiton from Sept 2004 - I only have one pillow (as yet) so I have to finish it to start something else. As for needle work projects, I have many WIPs (Works in Progress) - adds variety to life, although I am trying to be more disciplined in that too. Happy lacing Maxine in a cool New Zealand, where the ski season looks as though it is getting a good start, with good snow on the mountains. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thank you
Thank you all for the warm welcome. I indeed know that lace is just as addictive as knitting, crochet , etc,etc, I went, this morning to the Lace Museum. I was the only one there and had the docent just to myself. It was just great. She took me from piece to piece and told me the story of it and the furniture they have and how the obtain them. They have a very large knitted lace displayed and I open my mouth and said "Oh that is knittwd, it is fairly easy to do. She laugh and laugh and told me I would fit just right in and get hooked on the bobbins. It was all I could do not to buy the store. I still had a grain of restrain and decide to pay the rent first, then buy the store. Who need to eat,, right!!!. I will have my first class on Thursday night from 7-p PM. The teacher is E. Schartz. Name is very familiar. I will try to remember why. I check all these nice sites and the french one is really interresting. I have no problem understanding it, french is my first lanaguage, and half is stranslated in english... Again, many thank to all for answering so very promptly. I certainly will let you know my progress or lack of. I am a knitpicky person, I have to have everything perfect right away. Christiane There is no errors, only new pattern - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Newbie
Hi Christine, Jenny had suggested a French site with some good info. If you don't speak French (I don't) I have found that you can get a "google translation". Do realize that this "translation" isn't totally accurate but you can kind of get the idea of what it is about. Jenny said: If you can read French the I thing this site would be a find http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dentelle.fuseau/ especially the "Trucs et astuces" I have jsut looked at the pictures :) Here is the "translated" version: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://perso.wanadoo.fr/d entelle.fuseau/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DLa%2Bdentelle%2Baux%2Bfuseaux%26hl%3Den%26 hs%3DF08%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official OR http://tinyurl.com/rja2c Then check out Tricks & Easy Ways. I hope this may help, Shirley Primavera Wisconsin USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spangling without wire
I agree that hiding the knot - or join - within the center bead or within the hole in the bobbin is the preferred method of spangling. If you can do that with any sturdy material - brass wire, fishing/beading filament, or the "tiger tail" used for jewelry, then you have almost unlimited choices!! The key, of course, is being able to make a knot that will STAY, and not relax and then come loose. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - Original Message - From: "Angel Skubic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Clay Blackwell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Spangling without wire I use fishing line and need to hide the knot inside a bead. I would think that I would do the same thing with beading nylon. I am not fond of the look of crimp beads in jewelry...would rather learn how to do wrapping with wire on the end (or fancy hang man noose type of knots?)I just stick to hiding the knots inside a bead for spangles. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Spangling without wire My experience (limited) with beading nylon is that you either have to tie a firm knot which is fairly unattractive on something as small as a spangle, or you have to use crimps, which look fine in jewelry, but not so fine on a spangle. If you could resolve those issues, then I think it would work fine. Clay - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [lace] Spangling without wire People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm not long back from the Chepstow Fair and am thoroougly spent out :-) I have been saving up 2GBP coins for over a year with a view to buying a set of Gravestock drawers. I am now the proud owner of a tall set in walnut and it is just beautiful. Since he has retired/is retiring I reckoned this was my last chance. I also bought a plywood circle with non slip material on top and a circular "clamp" on the bottom so I can use my tripod stand without having to attach the little circles to the bases of my pillows. I'm delighted with that. I've also bought various patterns and kits from roseground and Christine Springett for Christmas decorations - plus thread and a couple of bobbins... As you can gather I had a good day and I hope the vendors did, too. I don't think there were as many customers as I have seen in the past; I just hope we don't lose this opportunity to see before we buy through lack of support. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Spangling without wire
I use fishing line and need to hide the knot inside a bead. I would think that I would do the same thing with beading nylon. I am not fond of the look of crimp beads in jewelry...would rather learn how to do wrapping with wire on the end (or fancy hang man noose type of knots?)I just stick to hiding the knots inside a bead for spangles. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Spangling without wire My experience (limited) with beading nylon is that you either have to tie a firm knot which is fairly unattractive on something as small as a spangle, or you have to use crimps, which look fine in jewelry, but not so fine on a spangle. If you could resolve those issues, then I think it would work fine. Clay - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [lace] Spangling without wire > People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. > What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that > and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, > braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > I'm not long back from the Chepstow Fair and am thoroougly spent out > :-) > I > have been saving up 2GBP coins for over a year with a view to buying a set > of > Gravestock drawers. I am now the proud owner of a tall set in walnut and > it is > just beautiful. Since he has retired/is retiring I reckoned this was my > last > chance. > > I also bought a plywood circle with non slip material on top and a > circular > "clamp" on the bottom so I can use my tripod stand without having to > attach the > little circles to the bases of my pillows. I'm delighted with that. > > I've also bought various patterns and kits from roseground and > Christine Springett for Christmas decorations - plus thread and a > couple of bobbins... > > As you can gather I had a good day and I hope the vendors did, too. I > don't > think there were as many customers as I have seen in the past; I just hope > we > don't lose this opportunity to see before we buy through lack of support. > > Patricia in Wales > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Spangling without wire
I use fishing line and need to hide the knot inside a bead. I would think that I would do the same thing with beading nylon. I am not fond of the look of crimp beads in jewelry...would rather learn how to do wrapping with wire on the end (or fancy hang man noose type of knots?)I just stick to hiding the knots inside a bead for spangles. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Spangling without wire My experience (limited) with beading nylon is that you either have to tie a firm knot which is fairly unattractive on something as small as a spangle, or you have to use crimps, which look fine in jewelry, but not so fine on a spangle. If you could resolve those issues, then I think it would work fine. Clay - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [lace] Spangling without wire > People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. > What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that > and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, > braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? > > I'm not long back from the Chepstow Fair and am thoroougly spent out > :-) > I > have been saving up 2GBP coins for over a year with a view to buying a set > of > Gravestock drawers. I am now the proud owner of a tall set in walnut and > it is > just beautiful. Since he has retired/is retiring I reckoned this was my > last > chance. > > I also bought a plywood circle with non slip material on top and a > circular > "clamp" on the bottom so I can use my tripod stand without having to > attach the > little circles to the bases of my pillows. I'm delighted with that. > > I've also bought various patterns and kits from roseground and > Christine Springett for Christmas decorations - plus thread and a > couple of bobbins... > > As you can gather I had a good day and I hope the vendors did, too. I > don't > think there were as many customers as I have seen in the past; I just hope > we > don't lose this opportunity to see before we buy through lack of support. > > Patricia in Wales > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2006 #126
RE: Olympic Torch e-mail When you receive an email warning about a virus that propagates via email, the best response is to check out wether it is true on a legitimate Virus protection source. One of the best sites is the McAfee webpage: http://vil.mcafee.com/hoax.asp If you visit that page, you can see listed a number of different email "hoaxes". One of them is the Olympic Torch email. Don't forward the warning message, it's creators are really just trying to tie up your time and email resources. Sincerely, Johanna (with some advice from my engineer daughter) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace teacher Uk
We have just had a very successful day's demonstration at the local Medieval Street Fair and have a young lady of 10 years who is interested in learning to make lace. She romped her way down a 'Springett snake' over the course of the day and went home delighted with it. Unfortunately she lives just too far away to come to my class as it's on a school night and would be just too late by the time she gets home. So we said we would see if we could find a teacher for her. She lives at Wimbish near Saffron Waldon, Essex. When I get them sorted out I shall have some pics up to view - the Arachne webshots is full! If anyone knows of a class or teacher who would take her on please email me off list. Thanks, Lynne. Lynne Cumming Baldock, North Herts, UK email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace UFO's
No lace Ufo's on my pillow's. I do not like to have more than one project going, one in continous lace and one in duchesse. I just finished a old greek harp player in Duchesse a piece that took me 2 years, and I will beginn this weekend a fan in art deco style. In continous lace I have a Binche-hankie just the first 5 cm of the beginning, my first try for the binche-lace. But I still have a few UFO's in needle-lace, projects I beginn in my sommer-class and dont find the time to finish, but one day... Alix from Luxembourg - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] what are we up to?/Beth
Beth, sounds like a great day, glad it was such a success. The youngsters are the lacemakers of tomorrow:-) We are getting our fair share of rain in Dorset, where the grass definately is greener than in the ajoining counties. Send it to the south east, they are the ones threatening stand pipes and the like. Sue T, damp chilly Dorset, UK. Hi all I'm still working on an edging from the Fouriscot/ Arpin Cluny de Brioude book - I've been working on it for almost 18 months now and there's still a couple of month's work to do on it. I've been out demonstrating with some of my lace class today at a Craft Day run by one of the local churches. We couldn't persuade any adults to have a go, but some of the children and teenagers were keen - we had three different "have a go" pieces in action simultaneously at one point, some of the youngsters carried on for an hour or more (one twelve year old refused to stop until she'd finished the snake, in spite of her twin's attempts to swap places by threatening to eat sister's lunch, and went away proudly carrying off the snake bookmark. (cue hasty rewinding of bobbins for next volunteer!). Beth in a very wet Cheshire, England (the news bulletins may be going on about a drought, but there's no sign of it round here - if anyone down south wants to borrow a raincloud, we've got enough and to spare!) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spangling without wire
Just my two-penny-worth about Chepstow. I too enjoyed my visit, but was disappointed at the numbers of visitors there, although I have to admit I went rather later than I usually do, and apparently it had been quite busy in the morning. I am afraid I am rapidly coming to the point where I don't really need any more equipment (though I always have room for more bobbins and books!) I keep hearing people say that there are new young lacemakers coming up, but I don't very often see them. However, it is great fun, and I really enjoy going, and it would be a huge shame if events like this declined due to lack of customers - those of us who live in rural areas away from suppliers have to rely on them if we want to see before we buy. Dee Palin Gloucestershire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spangling without wire
My experience (limited) with beading nylon is that you either have to tie a firm knot which is fairly unattractive on something as small as a spangle, or you have to use crimps, which look fine in jewelry, but not so fine on a spangle. If you could resolve those issues, then I think it would work fine. Clay - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [lace] Spangling without wire People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm not long back from the Chepstow Fair and am thoroougly spent out :-) I have been saving up 2GBP coins for over a year with a view to buying a set of Gravestock drawers. I am now the proud owner of a tall set in walnut and it is just beautiful. Since he has retired/is retiring I reckoned this was my last chance. I also bought a plywood circle with non slip material on top and a circular "clamp" on the bottom so I can use my tripod stand without having to attach the little circles to the bases of my pillows. I'm delighted with that. I've also bought various patterns and kits from roseground and Christine Springett for Christmas decorations - plus thread and a couple of bobbins... As you can gather I had a good day and I hope the vendors did, too. I don't think there were as many customers as I have seen in the past; I just hope we don't lose this opportunity to see before we buy through lack of support. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Oldest UFO
ROFL...I have to admit that I am horrible with needlework too UFO's everywhere and my knitting as well. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margot Walker Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:45 AM To: ARACHNE Subject: [lace] Oldest UFO On Saturday, May 20, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: > who has the oldest UFO still on a pillow I may have the youngest UFO - I just started a project 1 hour ago. Four or 5 years ago I made a vow not to start a new piece of lace before I'd finished an old one - in other words, no UFOs - and it's one of the few vows I've stuck to.I wish I could do the same with needlework projects!!! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [lace] What is everyone up to
Don't feel bad. I had to take a long hiatus as well and am now thinking of setting up the bolster and doing an easy pattern of bucks yardage. (never did torchon) I am also going to be rusty though it has only been 3 years since I made my last lace. My hiatus was first prompted by a move that got all my lace stuff scattered in many different boxes. I have finally managed to locate most if not all of my stuff and could start again now. (though admittedly many boxes remain in my basement that need to be unpacked.) Cearbhael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K Jones Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] What is everyone up to After a 14 month hiatus from making lace, I finally sat down to my lace pillow last weekend to start the intertwined hearts from "Weddings, christening and Anniversaries in Lace". It will be part of a wedding present for my brother. I figured the pattern looked easy and I should have no problems finishing it. Now I am starting to worry. I have only completed one torchon lace piece ever and that was 6 years ago. It's very slow going, and although I think I have the pattern figured out, I still consult the chart in the book often - I can't afford to make a mistake (time-wise). This will be a Sunday-only project, since I have no time to make lace during the week. My boss also just handed me a review to write in my "spare time", which will have to be done on Sundays as well. Also, we leave for the wedding in early July. There are not that many Sundays left! If worst comes to works, I can give them only one heart, or I can make both of them and give it to him for their first wedding anniversary. I would like to finish it though. Other than that, it's nice to be making bobbin lace again - husband was starting to wonder if I would ever get back to it! Kristina PA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spangling without wire
Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use crimping beads too so no more knots :) I like the idea of no knots but what are crimping beads? jenny barron Scotland no rain here but a little chilly for May - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] what are we up to?
Hi all I'm still working on an edging from the Fouriscot/ Arpin Cluny de Brioude book - I've been working on it for almost 18 months now and there's still a couple of month's work to do on it. I've been out demonstrating with some of my lace class today at a Craft Day run by one of the local churches. We couldn't persuade any adults to have a go, but some of the children and teenagers were keen - we had three different "have a go" pieces in action simultaneously at one point, some of the youngsters carried on for an hour or more (one twelve year old refused to stop until she'd finished the snake, in spite of her twin's attempts to swap places by threatening to eat sister's lunch, and went away proudly carrying off the snake bookmark. (cue hasty rewinding of bobbins for next volunteer!). Beth in a very wet Cheshire, England (the news bulletins may be going on about a drought, but there's no sign of it round here - if anyone down south wants to borrow a raincloud, we've got enough and to spare!) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Oldest UFO
On Saturday, May 20, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: who has the oldest UFO still on a pillow I may have the youngest UFO - I just started a project 1 hour ago. Four or 5 years ago I made a vow not to start a new piece of lace before I'd finished an old one - in other words, no UFOs - and it's one of the few vows I've stuck to.I wish I could do the same with needlework projects!!! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What is everyone up to
After a 14 month hiatus from making lace, I finally sat down to my lace pillow last weekend to start the intertwined hearts from "Weddings, christening and Anniversaries in Lace". It will be part of a wedding present for my brother. I figured the pattern looked easy and I should have no problems finishing it. Now I am starting to worry. I have only completed one torchon lace piece ever and that was 6 years ago. It's very slow going, and although I think I have the pattern figured out, I still consult the chart in the book often - I can't afford to make a mistake (time-wise). This will be a Sunday-only project, since I have no time to make lace during the week. My boss also just handed me a review to write in my "spare time", which will have to be done on Sundays as well. Also, we leave for the wedding in early July. There are not that many Sundays left! If worst comes to works, I can give them only one heart, or I can make both of them and give it to him for their first wedding anniversary. I would like to finish it though. Other than that, it's nice to be making bobbin lace again - husband was starting to wonder if I would ever get back to it! Kristina PA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Oldest UFO
One is about seven years old. It must be the oldest one I still have on a pillow. This got me thinking - who has the oldest UFO still on a pillow - and *still*, after all these years, intends to finish it some day? I have a piece of Honiton that dates from 1981. Still on the pillow - I was just a newbie and didn't know I couldn't do Honiton yet so I started the sampler in Elsie Luxton's book. Once I found out that Honiton was supposed to be hard, I realized I couldn't do it and stopped working. Now I'm ready to admit I've been silly and finally finish it off - maybe I can get going again at the Honiton class I'm taking at the end of June. Now, where's my spool of thread ... Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spangling without wire
At 11:01 PM 20/05/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Use crimping beads too so no more knots :) Jenny Brandis Kununurra Kid Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Spangling without wire
People have 'talked' on the list about spangling using fishing line. What about spangling using beading nylon? I have got a lot of that and it is presumably pretty strong since it is used to make necklaces, braclets etc. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm not long back from the Chepstow Fair and am thoroougly spent out :-) I have been saving up 2GBP coins for over a year with a view to buying a set of Gravestock drawers. I am now the proud owner of a tall set in walnut and it is just beautiful. Since he has retired/is retiring I reckoned this was my last chance. I also bought a plywood circle with non slip material on top and a circular "clamp" on the bottom so I can use my tripod stand without having to attach the little circles to the bases of my pillows. I'm delighted with that. I've also bought various patterns and kits from roseground and Christine Springett for Christmas decorations - plus thread and a couple of bobbins... As you can gather I had a good day and I hope the vendors did, too. I don't think there were as many customers as I have seen in the past; I just hope we don't lose this opportunity to see before we buy through lack of support. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: plea
Dear Lacefriends, Allow me to ask for a request. It's realy nice to get a warning, like this [lace] Fw: VIRUS WARNING - and it is ok to write such a thing to the list as whole but not together with dozens of other lists. I don't like to be on all the lists they excist. A few people uses such lists to send spam. We have a MAC and therefore viruses aren't a problem and we have an automatically security from two parts, first from MAC and second from Deutsche Telekom. Both update this part regularly. Thank you for your understanding Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What is everyone up to?
I just want to share that today I finished making Cathy Belleville's butterfly from the Rosalibre book. It wasn't too difficult & rather fun. I still have to take it off the pillow. My youngest son gave me the idea of attaching it onto a ribbon to make a bookmark. For those lacemakers that know their knots, I found that doing a clove-hitch keeps the thread on the bobbin when the thread gets close to the end. And I've also finished my Estonian language classes for this semester. Penelope Piip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] newbie
Hi Christiane, To quote Alice... Jenny started last year with nothing but the list for advice, and she has done alot in one year. Jenny... maybe you can tell Christiane some hints to get her started. Hints to total beginners 1. Have a go - with whatever tools you can get your hands on 2. Google is your friend - try searching with words like "bobbin lace tutorial" "Rosemary Shepherd" (or any other well known lace makers name) this will bring up http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/ "torchon lace" (or any other variation of lace you like) "lace making" Make sure you use the " as this tells Google to look for the phrase rather than the individual words anywhere on the page 3. Ask, ask and ask some more - the only silly question is the one you did not ask 4. Check out the following sites as they have a wealth of info Lacefairy This site is in need of a good sortout but has the most interesting information http://lace.lacefairy.com/ Jo Edkins Lace School This has free lessons and animated pictures demonstrating the stitches and was an absolute blessing for me when I found it http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/ If you can read French the I thing this site would be a find http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dentelle.fuseau/ especially the "Trucs et astuces" I have jsut looked at the pictures :) and to blow my own horn - see what I have managed to learn in 12 months at http://www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html Give me an email if you think I can help. Jenny Brandis Kununurra Kid Kununurra, Western Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brandis.com.au/craft/lace.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace UFO's
I sometimes have a couple of projects on the go at once, if there is something I am working on but don't want to take it travelling or to camp so it doesn't get dirty, or if something turns up that warants the need for timing. I do however have pieces of lace made and finished but not made up into the finished objects. The wedding next month has been put back a year so I have left the horseshoe, ring pillow and garter laces in a box with the tissue and ribbon and will complete at a later date. I have 6 more pairs of bobbins to tie off at the end of a small piece I have been doing for my sister and bil's 40th wedding anniversary that I have been working on for the last week or so, then than can come off tonight. I then have to find something which I can have on my pillow to take on my travels again, visiting Mum for a week and also a weekend camp. Native Americans and Mountain men, in deapest oxfordshire, UK, LOL. Still it will be a very interesting fun weekend. I then want to decide if there is a suitable piece of christmas/victorian lace I can have a go at for the hall decorations. I did have some lovely suggestions from you. I prefer to start them early, I don't like finishing them off at the very, very last minute. I have just received the Louise Colgan book in the post, so have been dipping in and out reading and looking :-) Now I have to get past working the first inch of whole stitch milanese lace. Other things, people and lack of concentration time have stopped progress so far. Sue T, Dorset UK How many UFO's (unfinished object/projects)do you have? And to go with thatHow old is the oldest one? I think I am down to just six UFO's. I've actually finished off some in the past year. Three of my projects are long, on-going ones. The five-inch edging is a demo project, has 66" done, and has been going for about six years, I think. The lappet was started last year and is about 1/4 done. It's in black thread so needs good light for working. The 's-Gravenmoerse piece is about a year old and will be 36 inches long when done. The other three are leftovers from various classes. One is about seven years old. (Would finishing it count in the Lace Guild contest titled "Seven"?) It must be the oldest one I still have on a pillow. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon -- 26 days till PLW lace conference --- Clay Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you visit the "Urban Legends" website and search on the names of these viruses, you will see that they are both hoaxes. (http://tinyurl.com/lz44t) While all members of Arachne appreciate knowing about genuine threats, it isn't appropriate to send out unsubstantiated rumors to the list. Please be sure you have checked out anything like this before sending it out to anyone. As a matter of fact, I believe that it is against Arachne policy for any of these messages to be sent out on this list (but I could be wrong - Avital?) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] newbie
Welcome, Christiane, to both the Arachne list and to making lace. According to my atlas, your town is between Palo Alto and San Jose. You live in an area that has quite a few lace makers, and fairly close to the Lace Museum in Sunnyvale. Contact them. They may have lists of lacemakers and teachers in your area. They do have classes, too. They also have some supplies. Arachneans in that region, please contact Christiane with the lace group near her. Find and bookmark the webpage of Lacefairy. Lori has a section on lacemaking, and various information that could be helpful to you. There's also web links to various suppliers. Explore their pages so you get an idea of the materials we use. The beginner kits listed on Van Sciver Bobbin Lace, Lacy Susan, the Lacemaker, and other suppliers will give you an idea of the basic things you need to get started. The Lace Museum can probably help you there, also. Ask questions on the List. We all began some time, and were at the same place you are. There's probably others out there who are too shy to write, but will appreciate the information also. Jenny started last year with nothing but the list for advice, and she has done alot in one year. Jenny... maybe you can tell Christiane some hints to get her started. It's a fun art, but we warn you that it is very addictive. You can make or buy your first equipment. It depends on how much you want to spend and how handy you are with tools. So, keep in touch, and keep asking questions. We're happy to help. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon --- Christiane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone - my name is Christiane Johnson and I > an such a newbie I squeek. .Lace knitting > that I can do, but it is the bobbins that interrest > me now. > So my question is: how do I start? I live in > Mountain View, California, USA. Is there some of you > who could get in touch with me and take me in hand > and get me started? Do I go and buy the bobbins and > start on my own and hope for the best? Classes to > take? not that I found anything like this in my > searches. All help is more than welcome. Thank you > for letting me join your group. > > > > Christiane > > > There is no errors, > only new pattern > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write > to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
