Re: [lace] Baby piece
Hi fellow Arachnids, There are several easier animals in the late Veronica Sorensen's book, 75 Quick and Easy Patterns in Bobbin Lace. Some in Bridget Cook and Metka Tratnik,s, Idrija Lace. There is a rocking horse in Anna Korableva and Bridget Cookâs Russian lace Patterns (second book p136 I think*) but that is rather difficult for a beginner. Youâd need to simplify it by extracting the rocking horse shape and adding pricking holes. There are other tape lace patterns about which are relatively easy and animals or toys (teddies/rocking horses etc.) are always appreciated. There were some toys/animals in one of the Lace Express issues some time ago. Hope that helps. Happy lace making, Joepie, East Sussex, UK. *One of my students worked that fairly recently. From: Sue T Anyway I spoke to her this morning about the baby lace and she seemed pleased with the idea so I am again coming through all of you to ask if you have any suggestions of simple braid type lace pieces that might go into a frame on the babies wall and not be consigned to a drawer after the first few days. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Contributing / helping build community
Hi Arachnids I had someone local tell me I was doing my tatting joins wrong (it was different than how this person prefers to do them) My advice is to look the person in the eye and say firmly and indignantly âIt took me a long time to work out how to get this result and I am happy with it.â It is your lace so make it as you wish to â but stay open to new ideas. You may find her method is useful in the future. I always give my bobbin lace students this advice and many have come back to me and said it works. Keep enjoying your lace Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] baby piece
Hi Arachnids Baby piece - There are several small pieces suitable for babies in Gilian Dyes booklet âAn ABC of Lace Patternsâ including a dinosaur, elephant, goldfish, rabbit, sea horse, teddy bear, unicorn, yacht and zebra. Some are exceptionally quick to make. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece
I have that Russian rocking horse hanging on my wall, I made it about 11 years ago and I got told off by my teacher for being too critical of it, LOL. She told me to hang it on the wall and step away a yard or two and then see what I thought and of course she is right. When we work on something about a foot in front of you its easy to see everything you would like to be a bit tidier but it is always a favourite with anyone visiting our home, its artistic and pretty rather than the lacy frames around a photo but not every ones taste. I think this one is too difficult for my neighbour at the moment but might be one she might try further down her learning life. She has Parkinsons and initially I wasn't sure how it might inpact on her but lots of the time she manages fine, I have encouraged her to take her time, relax, enjoy and is not in a race and she has gained a lot more confidence and we are finding ways around moves she struggles with, with her weaker hand. What she is also enjoying is her clever knitting, embroidery loving sisters are amazed as how good she is getting and saying they wouldn't have the patience and it looks complicated and she is saying no its not when you get down to it, as she has, :-) I am listing any ideas I have and we will go through those soon. I have had several suggestions from various people most of which seem to be rocking horse ones. My DH and I are busy fixing a shower wall at the moment so I haven't had the chance to answer all emails at the moment and I have also been having a fight to make my own poppy come together as i want it to, so tonight I am about to undo it for the second time and might have to rework one petal and then try again. Good job I have plenty of green wrap but a little short on patience that its not working as nicely as it should. My last one looks brilliant so I am cross that this is proving hard to get.But I was putting flower stamens in instead of drawing them in and they are too long like this, I could use an extra couple of hands when fitting them together, LOL. Last night it almost took flight, LOL. Sue T Dorset UK jvik...@sover.net wrote: HI All, I'm thinking I have seen a tape lace rocking horse by Janice Blair. I may be dreaming but Janice can tell us. What a lovely idea! There's also a Russian tape rocking horse by Bridget Cook. If I remember correctly, she published 2 Russian books, the second with a Russian co-author. I think the rocking horse is in the second one. Can't remember the title of either one, though. Hope this helps, Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Wedding Day
Very pretty. Sue T Dorset UK From: Sue Harvey At last my lace ring pillow has been used. My Gt. nephew married his lovely bride on Saturday and their son Charlie carried the pillow and carried out his duties really well. The whole day was lovely. I tried to upload to my album but it went on to the Arachne flicker site ( probably did it wrong) Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Convention.
Brilliant review Liz, thanks, interesting read. Sue T Dorset I, too, went to Convention in Sacramento, and had a wonderful time. I took only morning classes as I had my DH with me, and had to spend some time with him!! I took the Gold & Silver Early Laces, with Gil Dye, and it was fabulous. Working on graph paper, instead of a design was a challenge - that I did not conquer very well!! But I learned heaps, and enjoyed every moment. As people arrived, on the Saturday, we sat in the lobby, - and I was amazed at how many people knew me from past conventions!!! It was so nice to meet Lia's talk and fashion parade was wonderful, as was the talk on World War 1 lace. I wish I had heard that talk before the Bethesda convention, as we saw some War Lace in the American History Museum, on the Wednesday tour, and I did not take much notice of it, as it was very "Modern" after we had viewed 16th and 17th Century Laces in another room!! It was a great week, and at last I have been to The lace Museum, and Lacis, too - 2 other highlights of the week!!! Thank you to the Gold Country lacemakers who gave us all such a great time. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Wedding Day
Thanks for all the comments and help regarding my wedding day mail, I blame the deterioration Of the grey cells I just forgot how to upload to my album. Sue M Harvey Norfolk U.K. Sent from my iPad > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
It's so nice to see so many Arachne members in one place, as I live in Norfolk UK we don't have many Arachne members in the area, I know of only one and she happens to be a friend from Norfolk Lacemakers. We do not even have as many lace days as we used to because many of the suppliers will not attend as they can make as much money selling online with much less hassle of doing a lace day. Sue M Harvey Sue M Harvey Sent from my iPad > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: "Surprising Lace" Conference
I have found the list of entries which had been accepted for the exhibition (opens on Nov. 11th) on http://tautasmaksla.lv/: Anna-Maria Väätäinen no Somijas (Finland), ar darbu "Dreams"; Sirpa Glad-Staf no Somijas (Finland), ar darbu "Light&shade" un "Lace in many ways"; Françoise Micoud no Francijas (France), ar darbu "Stick for the Return of Souls"; Adeline Meilliez no Francijas/Vācijas (France/Germany), ar darbu "Dentelle de Soie"; Ann Therese Ekeren Skari no Norvēģijas (Norway), ar darbu "Christening bonnet" un "Christening ensemble in red silk"; Nadezhda Lazarova no Bulgārijas (Bulgaria), ar darbu "Gabrovo Greets Riga" un "Work of the collection"; Karen Casper no Lielbritānijas (United Kingdom), ar darbu "Veil One (black)" un "Veil Two (purple)"; Jeanne Goutelle no Francijas (France), ar darbu "KNOT#1" . Hugs from Tartu, Estonia Penelope - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
What a shame that vendors are not prepared to go to lace days in the UK. It is so much better to see the books and threads. We have a problem getting them as the distances they have to come make it very expensive to attend. In my Illinois guild we always had a vendor who could also teach a class the day before and the day of our lace day to make it more worthwhile. Now I live in CA, there are more opportunities to get to lace events but the distance and traffic make me cautious about driving. Yesterday I attended a lace meeting in Redlands, about an hour drive north of here, but when we came out I was in rush hour traffic and Interstate 10 was a parking lot. Plus we had unusual weather, a thunderstorm that had torrential rain. Felt sorry for the guy in the convertible but we do need the rain. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org On Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:19 AM, Sue Harvey <2harv...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: It's so nice to see so many Arachne members in one place, as I live in Norfolk UK we don't have many Arachne members in the area, I know of only one and she happens to be a friend from Norfolk Lacemakers. We do not even have as many lace days as we used to because many of the suppliers will not attend as they can make as much money selling online with much less hassle of doing a lace day. Sue M Harvey > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Help with mystery lace bonnet
Hi Vickie: I think you're right about the purpose of the balls. As to the bonnet, it certainly looks like a variant of the Dutch 'hul'. I once took a 's Gravenmoer class from a Dutch lady who described the bonnets in detail. I don't remember all of what she said, but part of it was that there was often a wire frame for the hats, and sometimes bulbous spirals of wire that sat on either side of your face. They varied a lot from place to place so you could often tell a stranger by their strange bonnet. At the course I bought a book: 'Kant uit Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer', which says, in part: "Lille or Beveren lace was used for the bonnets of the wealthy. These were fine laces with Point de Lille from Flanders displaying flower and leaf motifs while 's Gravenmoer lace was a coarser lace, less intricate and therefore less expensive." This bonnet, though, seems to use a more traditional Flanders lace, with a heavier, (possibly metallic?) thread looped back and forth to create the solid motifs. The book considers only bonnets from the area where 's Gravenmoer was made - perhaps in other areas the Flanders techniques would have been more popular. "There are regional differences in the use of bonnets. Various methods of starching were used, as well as colours of starch. The points of the lace of the 'hul' were folded upwards when starched. After starching, they were set over a casque under which a small black cap was placed to conceal the hair." These laces were made with linen, and it looks to me from the pictures that linen is used here, too. I don't know if the dark colour is because they used unbleached linen, or because they used bleach linen with a heavy starch that has since changed colour. If the metallic threads were originally gold-coloured, it would have made sense for the entire thing to be starch with a gold-coloured starch, which could easily have changed to this brownish colour over time. I hope somebody with far more knowledge of Dutch laces will comment. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) PS: The teacher also said that for the average person lace was usually used just to trim a plain linen bonnet - and woe betide you if you trimmed your bonnet with a type of lace that was above your station in life - even if you made the lace yourself! On 2014-08-20, at 5:39 PM, Vickie wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have a friend that purchased a very old appearing, unusual lace bonnet > made with metallic thread from an eBay vender. > > Since I have never seen anything like it I turn to your wonderful knowledge > to help her guess at the age, style, and material etc. There are two heavy > metal balls hanging from two sides, possibly to provide weight to keep it on > when worn because the lace is very light weight she says. > Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] contributing
When our local guild first started, one of our members came up to me while I was crocheting and told me I was doing it wrong. I told her to show me a row using her method. Then I demonstrated a row using my method, and said "I'm faster than you. Why should I adopt your method and slow down?" This was a lady who ran around the room telling everybody they were doing things wrong. I was gleeful at an opportunity to metaphorically drop a rock on her head. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Baby piece
I have sent a copy of my rocking horse pattern to Sue. Mine is a simple tape lace suitable for beginners, especially as the ending is all the threads tied together to form the tail. Any tallies can be replaced with beads or just done in a plait. Thanks for remembering it Jane. Wish we had somewhere to place patterns written in Word. Janice HI All, I'm thinking I have seen a tape lace rocking horse by Janice Blair. I may be dreaming but Janice can tell us. What a lovely idea! Jane in Vermont, USA where we are having exquisite weather! Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
Hello Janice and everyone Thank you for sharing the photo! A favor if you all don't mind, could everyone please identify themselves as to where you are in the picture? Most of us only know you from your posts! https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/14963315756/ -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] bonnet
I think the bonnet may be machine lace. Look at the 1st photo in the sequence. It is the only one with enough detail. Compare to http://lynxlace.com/images/oth751.jpg Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece
Thank you Janice, I now have this pattern and have printed it off to show my neighbour. I worked this for a young women 6 years ago I think when she had a baby girl to attach to a card. This type of design has been mentioned by several people so it appears to be a popular choice:-) Sue T I have sent a copy of my rocking horse pattern to Sue. Mine is a simple tape lace suitable for beginners, especially as the ending is all the threads tied together to form the tail. Any tallies can be replaced with beads or just done in a plait. Thanks for remembering it Jane. Wish we had somewhere to place patterns written in Word. Janice HI All, I'm thinking I have seen a tape lace rocking horse by Janice Blair. I may be dreaming but Janice can tell us. What a lovely idea! Jane in Vermont, USA where we are having exquisite weather! Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
I made a start on filling in names. Back row: , , , , Janice Blair, , Jean Leader Middle row: , Susan Hottle Front row: Devon Thein, , , Karen Thompson, ,, , Janet Goodacre The photo isn't the clearest so I hope I got you right If you can't figure out how to edit the flickr site, reply to me and fill in your name on the appropriate row and I will edit the site for you Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] contributing
I was not going to say anything until your comments Lorelei. I liked your comments. When I met my dear friend for the first time (we had been communicating via e-mail only as she lives in the UK) I showed her a bookmark I had made. I was so proud of the fact I could finish something. She said it was wonderful, however I could tell she was holding back. When I convinced her I wanted her honest opinion. She responded with "you do spiders differently here in America!" I asked her t show me how she does them and wonder of wonders I could actually see the spider legs!! Then I took my first ever class and had completely the opposite reaction from the instructor I was paying to teach me. She looked at what I was doing & picked up my scissors & cut all the bobbins off my pillow. Then she said I needed to learn the the basic stitches and walked away. That ended my efforts to learn that type lace and my desire to never take a courts with that teacher again. After that I was hesitant to take another class until I took a class with Sylvie Nugyen. Talk about patience. She was fantastic and sold me on Russian tape lace. This year at the Convention I took a course with Lia Baumeister. I must admit I need way more lessons than we re programmed for this class. At one point when I was really struggling I told her the problem is I can't read Swedish. She laughed & said "but this is a diagram not words!" Then she proceeded to color code the diagram so I could better follow what needed to be done. I actually finished a small piece of lace!! More importantly she took the time to work with me & didn't CUT my threads!! Lia's class on Russian tape lace was fantastic. She started me on a fan and spent time with me to do leaves which I am struggling with. So, bottom line I have had three fantastic teachers and one very poor example of a teacher plus tons of help from Arachne. Robin, please don't give up & if you follow the advise from those who have responded you will have the courage to tell those who downgrade you to jump in the lake. My friend in the UK is constantly telling me to not be so critical of my work and is always encouraging as have been Sylvie & Lia. Please remember you can always chalk up the bad experience to ignorance on the other person's part. For every bad experience there are tons of really good ones as others have said in their comments. Sallie in WY > On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:29 PM, "Lorelei Halley" wrote: > > When our local guild first started, one of our members came up to me while I > was crocheting and told me I was doing it wrong. > Lorelei > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word
Hello Janice, and everyone I just noticed your 'wish' - you can use something like Google Drive, post your file and share the link as you decide. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Janice Blair wrote: > > Wish we had somewhere > to place patterns written in Word. > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
Dear Sues and Bev, plus all, Just saw the Arachne photo this morning at Lacemakers of Maine meeting - 6 members present, one of whom attended the convention. Maine's Barbara Simon is standing in the middle of the back row. Sue Babbs; Barbara's hair and blouse blend into the background, and there is an open door behind her. Barbara brought to our meeting her show-and-tells of lace in progress, table favors and gifts, new supplies (tools, bobbins, threads and some old pieces of lace) and books for us to enjoy. One book is not in my library! (Get out the checkbook, Jeri...) Devon is on the far left, front row, and serves IOLI as Historian. Jean Leader of Glasgow, who was teaching at the Sacramento convention, is at the top right, back row. Jean Leader was nominated to be Vice President of IOLI. Election was held at convention, so probably official now. Janice, sorry about the traffic in California. If you retired here, and were a member of Lacemakers of Maine, you would get to preview a lot of books, which helps one to decide what she needs. Traffic jams in Maine move, very little litter is seen, and the scenery is green the hour each way that I drive to Tess's. We are more worried about night driving and hitting a moose! A bit difficult to recognize others in photo, but so nice to see so many happy faces. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 8/21/2014 10:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk writes: It's so nice to see so many Arachne members in one place, as I live in Norfolk UK we don't have many Arachne members in the area, I know of only one and she happens to be a friend from Norfolk Lacemakers. We do not even have as many lace days as we used to because many of the suppliers will not attend as they can make as much money selling online with much less hassle of doing a lace day. Sue M Harvey - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Help with mystery lace bonnet
Hi Vickie, I did not get your original email or else Iâd have answered earlier. I donât think this is a Dutch hul. The back is too long; there are no balls on the hul and it has more of a inverted V shape at the back. The hul does not have the thick edge your hat has and the lace is the wrong type. It looks more like a hat from eastern Europe. As Adele said, there are many different lace bonnets in the Netherlands. Most villages had their own costume and lace bonnet, although not every village had a lace one*. The hul is part of the costume of Voledam, a fishing port to the north of Amsterdam on the Ijsselmeer. The types of lace used for the âkappenâ as we call the bonnets varied from fine laces such as point lace to crochet lace depending on your village âdrachtâ (costume) AND your station in life, although this was not as important as it was in Britain. Many bonnets were worn over a broad headband or casket of gold or silver called a âhoofd-ijzer (head-iron) which often had a square or corkscrew shape at the end which would press slightly into the cheeks giving a fuller (healthier?) look. Ornaments could be hung on these shapes a little like we would use earrings. Necklaces were also part of the costume, frequently of coral beads with a ornate gold closure worn at the front. If you are interested your library may have the âfairly simple- book;- Dutch costumes by A.Groen, Publisher Elmar BV, Delft ISBN 61200946. Few costumes are worn daily these days, mainly Voledam, Marken and Urker but on special days some villages look wonderful with many in costume. Even if the daily bonnet was a fairly simple cloth one, often a lace one was added over it for holy and other special days. Funnily enough, if the lace bonnet was worn daily âin the richer areas- the women often wore a hat of some description over it on Sundays and other special days. I am entitled to wear the Walcheren costume for Arnemuiden and/or for Vlissingen but could not possibly afford it The head-iron alone costs about £3000. And as my grandmother was the 6th in her family she did not inherit the costume. The hat in the photograph looks as if at least the edge is made of a flat âyarnâ which could be metal wire. This would discolour and may become brittle over time. Hope this is useful to you. Joepie, East Sussex, UK *You can look up Images of Marken costume (crochet hat), Hindeloopen costume (colourful cotton cloth hat), Staphorst (embroidered cloth), Walcheren costumes (broder Anglais or point lace)on Bing or Google. Groningen (lace) or West Friesland (lace with a feather hat on top). Even here there is confusion as other villages/areas are mixed in with the main one. On Wikipedia under Dutch caps or Dutch bonnets there is a photo of several Dutch costumes together. From: Adele Shaak Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:08 PM To: Vickie Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Help with mystery lace bonnet Hi Vickie: "There are regional differences in the use of bonnets. Various methods of starching were used, as well as colours of starch. The points of the lace of the 'hul' were folded upwards when starched. After starching, they were set over a casque under which a small black cap was placed to conceal the hair." I hope somebody with far more knowledge of Dutch laces will comment. Adele PS: The teacher also said that for the average person lace was usually used just to trim a plain linen bonnet - and woe betide you if you trimmed your bonnet with a type of lace that was above your station in life - even if you made the lace yourself! On 2014-08-20, at 5:39 PM, Vickie wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have a friend that purchased a very old appearing, unusual lace bonnet > made with metallic thread from an eBay vender. > > Since I have never seen anything like it I turn to your wonderful knowledge > to help her guess at the age, style, and material etc. There are two heavy > metal balls hanging from two sides, possibly to provide weight to keep it on > when worn because the lace is very light weight she says. > Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of wlEmoticon-openmouthedsmile[1].png] - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] contributing
Some people really do run close to being hit in the face. I've just finished teaching anew group. We have made Christine springett's snake and two if the ladies want to make something big. I want to keep the enthusiasm, teach them new techniques and let them make something they want so we are breaking the big project into smaller bits so they, most if all, enjoy themselves. Some people should not be allowed to teach but do. I heard of one teach who slapped learner if they did something she didn't approve of. She would have slapped me only once. Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Aug 2014, at 22:32, Bertrans1 wrote: > > She looked at what I was doing & picked up my scissors & cut all the bobbins > off my pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word
or you could scan in the instructions and save them as .jpeg and put them on Flickr! Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] punctuation
Hi Arachnids, Please, can anyone tell me how I can avoid the silly punctuation mark corruptions which seem to appear in my listings despite me using plain text? Thank you, Joepie. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] punctuation
I believe if you don't use apostrophes or quotation marks, you should be OK. Or just check your past emails to see which are the offensive punctuation marks that evolve into all sorts of funny symbols. Lyn in Southwest Harbor, Maine, USA, Where the weather is actually a little warmer than it was 600 miles, 960 km south, at home. Smell the pine, eat the lobster, read books, go for walks, admire the magnificent scenery. Stay out of the ice cold water. "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." Joepie wrote: >Please, can anyone tell me how I can avoid the silly punctuation mark >corruptions which seem to appear in my listings despite me using plain text? > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Criticism and teachers
Unfortunately, they recruit lace teachers and those who do fiber arts from the human race, and some, even the lace makers, are rather flawed. Some are buddinskis, some are overbearing, some just have to be right, some can't see what harsh criticism can do to some people. And the list goes on and on, just as it does for every group. A lot of us can shrug our shoulders and realize it is their problem and not ours, and move on. But some, when given robust criticism, feel that it is a confirmation that I can't do anything right, that Mom was right when she said I was stupid and cow-handed, here is the proof. If the criticism is given to someone else, we can see the fault in the criticizer, but when aimed at us, that clarity of vision disappears. It is very difficult to get over that, as it has to do with feelings, and feelings never go away just because we tell them to. If they did, there would be no need for anti-depressants. Lyn from Southwest Harbor, Maine, where I have 3 of my lace pillows with me on vacation. Going to see if I can make lace while traveling in the passenger seat of a small RV. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word
I'm not familiar with Google Drive, can you give an explanation of how to do it? Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org On Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:44 PM, Bev Walker wrote: Hello Janice, and everyone I just noticed your 'wish' - you can use something like Google Drive, post your file and share the link as you decide. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Janice Blair wrote: >Wish we had somewhere >to place patterns written in Word. > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word
Hi Janice and everyone Even better is the idea from Sue Babbs to scan a print copy of your Word doc., and post the jpg to flickr :) (you can google 'google drive' and google will explain better than I can - but I do like Sue's idea!) On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Janice Blair wrote: > I'm not familiar with Google Drive, can you give an explanation of how to > do it? > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Annoying punctuation.. a test of alternative pounctuation.
I am really guilty of this, as i write as I speak, and put in brackets my asides and emphasis. Like Joepie, I thought it would be solved by setting my default to plain text. Clearly this is not the case. I know one member of the list uses different punctuation marks, so without your kind permission, i thought I would try and see what happens with different punctuation marks. This email is written in plain text: Brackets test. I (for the want of a better word) I am choosing brackets. Inverted commas. Now I want to emphasise "inverted commas" as a punctuation. Now lets try the alternatives. I suspect that an * is acceptable for us to use as *inverted commas*, I wonder if I am right? As an alternative to brackets I suspect that a - will do the job. Today - Friday- is a very wet and windy here. I do recall in the early days of the list it was -and probably still is- important for us to trim our mail as many did not have good computers and small download limits. Plain text I suspect was the only form we could use then. I have to say the arguments for this still stand as this is an international list and not everyone has *or can afford* generous internet bandwidth. We all use email differently.. some communicate in one huge paragraph, others are very formal and some like me are chatterers! Frankly it does not matter, as long as we understand what is being written. I agree the odd things that get inserted with some standard punctuation marks is annoying and I would really like to try and discipline myself *to be less annoying*. I am sure I will fail from time to time... but lets see what this tests shows. Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Sacramento Arachne Photo
Bev, I am on the Back row middle in black tee with needlelace collar. I think that row starts on left with Janet Theaker, Gil Dye, Liz Ligetti and Jean Leader is far right Second starts on left with Sallie Owenby, then Susan Hottle, ?, ?, ? First Row starts on left with Devon Thien, Dorcas Newkirk, ? Karen Thompson, Dawn Howell?, Gail ?, ? and Janet Goodacre. Sorry to the ones I couldn't remember. Put it down to old age. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word
Janice sent the word doc to me & the jpeg of it is now in her Flickr album. Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com http://babbsandbaobabs.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Bev Walker Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:10 PM To: Janice Blair Cc: lace Subject: Re: [lace] Baby piece/patterns in Word Hi Janice and everyone Even better is the idea from Sue Babbs to scan a print copy of your Word doc., and post the jpg to flickr :) (you can google 'google drive' and google will explain better than I can - but I do like Sue's idea!) On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Janice Blair wrote: I'm not familiar with Google Drive, can you give an explanation of how to do it? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Teaching antics
Sallie, I hope you reported the antics of that teacher who cut your bobbins. What a horrific experience. No one has a right to treat anyone that way, where one is not willfully being disruptive or uncooperative. I had one IOLI instructor who appeared to have no interest in teaching me from the very beginning (I think I was the only 1/2 day student in the class). I did my best for 3 days and spent the last full day in my good class. I will never give her a second chance. I've been in another situation where a teacher was playing favorites and being very hard on someone else in the class. It's not supposed to be boot camp. Some instructors need drama to feed ego, but they and the event organizers should be informed that this does not further the goal of building the lacemaking community. It's very hard to speak up in small groups sometimes (and almost impossible to confront a bad instructor personally as a student), but it's important to praise the great instructors and point out those whose approaches do nothing to help the sponsoring organization and lacemaking in the long run. If you are having a bad time with a teacher, chances are someone else got burned too. And if you see someone else being mistreated, try to offer them support and report the circumstances to the organizers. Glad you persevered with lace and found great teachers like Sylvie and Lia. Regards, Lorraine in Albany, NY - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Rocking horse pattern
Sue has put the pattern on Flicker and my daughter has added it to my website www.jblace.com pattern page under the poppy pattern. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching antics
I had a bad experience with a half day class. The class was explained in the IOLI manual as beginner to experienced taught both morning and afternoon. Little did I know that you got all the instruction in the morning and the two of us who took the afternoon class were ignored. The teacher told us that all the instruction was printed on papers hanging around the class on the walls. Then on the last day of instruction she said that she would not be teaching, that she and her friends were going to be have some wine in the back of the room, so we should just go ahead and lace. NEVER took a class from her again, and needless to say, I do not have any desire to learn that type of lace. Becca - Original Message - From: "L. E. Weiss" To: "lace" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:31:07 PM Subject: [lace] Teaching antics Sallie, I hope you reported the antics of that teacher who cut your bobbins. What a horrific experience. No one has a right to treat anyone that way, where one is not willfully being disruptive or uncooperative. I had one IOLI instructor who appeared to have no interest in teaching me from the very beginning (I think I was the only 1/2 day student in the class). I did my best for 3 days and spent the last full day in my good class. I will never give her a second chance. I've been in another situation where a teacher was playing favorites and being very hard on someone else in the class. It's not supposed to be boot camp. Some instructors need drama to feed ego, but they and the event organizers should be informed that this does not further the goal of building the lacemaking community. It's very hard to speak up in small groups sometimes (and almost impossible to confront a bad instructor personally as a student), but it's important to praise the great instructors and point out those whose approaches do nothing to help the sponsoring organization and lacemaking in the long run. If you are having a bad time with a teacher, chances are someone else got burned too. And if you see someone else being mistreated, try to offer them support and report the circumstances to the organizers. Glad you persevered with lace and found great teachers like Sylvie and Lia. Regards, Lorraine in Albany, NY - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Annoying pnctuation.. test two in html
That email seemed to come through fine. So this time I am sending it in HTML. Unless other have a different experience, it seems that plain text solves the problems we are having? I am really guilty of this, as i write as I speak, and put in brackets my asides and emphasis. Like Joepie, I thought it would be solved by setting my default to plain text. Clearly this is not the case. I know one member of the list uses different punctuation marks, so without your kind permission, i thought I would try and see what happens with different punctuation marks. This email is written in html (rich txt): Brackets test. I (for the want of a better word) I am choosing brackets. Inverted commas. Now I want to emphasise "inverted commas" as a punctuation. Now lets try the alternatives. I suspect that an * is acceptable for us to use as *inverted commas*, I wonder if I am right? As an alternative to brackets I suspect that a - will do the job. Today - Friday- is a very wet and windy here. I do recall in the early days of the list it was -and probably still is- important for us to trim our mail as many did not have good computers and small download limits. Plain text I suspect was the only form we could use then. I have to say the arguments for this still stand as this is an international list and not everyone has *or can afford* generous internet bandwidth. We all use email differently.. some communicate in one huge paragraph, others are very formal and some like me are chatterers! Frankly it does not matter, as long as we understand what is being written. I agree the odd things that get inserted with some standard punctuation marks is annoying and I would really like to try and discipline myself *to be less annoying*. I am sure I will fail from time to time... but lets see what this tests shows. Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Convention photo
I am 3rd from the left in the back row - white hair, navy scoop necked top, - directly behind the lady in the bright green top. Janice further long the back row was flaunting her beautiful Needlelace collar!!! Good on you, Janice. Lace is there to be worn, not packed away in a cupboard. I think I had a needlelace flower pinned on, - but not showing in the photo. - the pink double layered Aemilia Ars one if I remember correctly! (see Needlelace Talk!) Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where we have a beautiful, "early spring" day today, thougn it is still officially Winter! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Travelling lace & photo names.
". Lyn from Southwest Harbor, Maine, where I have 3 of my lace pillows with me on vacation. Going to see if I can make lace while traveling in the passenger seat of a small RV." Sounds like you might have a bit of addiction, too, Lyn! Enjoy the holiday, - the bit Outside the lacemaking, I mean, of course!!! I always take my little travel pillow on holiday - except for going overseas, when I just have some knotted lace to work on in the hand!!! Like the credit card people say - Never leave home without it :) On the photo of the Arachne group - Dawn Howell is front row white tee shirt with fawn/brown design, and mauve pedal-pushers. Next to her, on the right, (deep pink top, and blueish floral skirt, ) is Gaye/Christine Beswick (IOLI has her as Christine, but we here in Oz, know her as Gaye!!! Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Criticism and teachers
When I started to learn hypnotism my trainer said that the best hypnotists were school teachers. A good teacher would mesmerise you with how they talked. Your recall of facts and processes would be outstanding because they just seemed to explain in a way that you got. Their patience in repeating something was unlimited, so no matter how long it took, you never felt stupid but that they had all the time in the world. He then said that the worst teachers in the world were also the best hypnotists because just 15 minutes with remand you believed that you were; 1 stupid 2 wothless 3 would amount to nothing 4 might as we'll kill yourself now to prevent your DNA going forward on the universe A bit ifs generalisation but certainly based on experience L Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Aug 2014, at 00:51, "Lyn Bailey" wrote: > > But some, when given robust criticism, feel that it is a confirmation that I > can't do anything right, that Mom was right when she said I was stupid and > cow-handed, here is the proof. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching antics
What many teachers forget is that people are buying a service from them and as such are their customers If I was abused in a shop by the person I wasn't young from I would vote with my feet and complain to the manager. We are often too nice to those who bully or fail to provide the level of service expected because we just want together away and not make a scene On the flip side, if someone has paid me to learn I will be honest if they are wasting their money. I taught one lady who had no talent at all for lacemaking. Each session she had lost all the progress that that she had made in the session before. In the end, I suggested she stopped paying and had 3 free lessons. If she made no progress at end of those we would part company. She admitted that she wasn't enjoying it and finally spoke with me about pressures at home which were taking up her thoughts. So we took a teaching holiday with the promise of a couple offerer sessions when she felt she had time to take it up again. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:31, "L. E. Weiss" wrote: > > Sallie, I hope you reported the antics of that teacher who cut your bobbins. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Smary pants gives in!!
OK I have no idea what is happening. As for me, i will just stick to plain text and keep my fingers crossed! Sorry to have messed you all around! Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] contributing
Good for you! Catherine Barley Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - Original Message - From: "Lorelei Halley" To: Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: [lace] contributing When our local guild first started, one of our members came up to me while I was crocheting and told me I was doing it wrong. I told her to show me a row using her method. Then I demonstrated a row using my method, and said "I'm faster than you. Why should I adopt your method and slow down?" This was a lady who ran around the room telling everybody they were doing things wrong. I was gleeful at an opportunity to metaphorically drop a rock on her head. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/