Re: [lace] Lace Guild Competition.
How beautiful the piece is... Congratulations on your win Faye Hegener Drumore, PA USA very hot a muggy here tonight... - Original Message - From: "Claire Allen" To: "Sue" <2harv...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "Arachne Arachne" Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:45:55 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Guild Competition. Pictures are on my my website at www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. On 25 Jun 2010, at 22:07, Sue wrote: > Congratulations Claire, always nice to see good work rewarded, any chance of > pictures on webshots? > > Sue M Harvey > Norfolk UK > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Definitions
HI I am new to Arachne.. and I am flabergasted as to the amount of discussions going on. This is so great I am reading and and seeing so many great things.. I feel your definition sounds good to me... There are so many types they call lace... and some say there are only 2 true laces I am not sure what to think. I do tatting and bobbinlace... and to me they are both lacesbut who am I to judge but they are all truly beautiful ...and look great however they are used... Faye Drumore, PA USA - Original Message - From: "Brenda Paternoster" To: "margaret palen" Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:24:57 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Definitions Some hand made lace is weaving - some is not. Some machine made lace is woven, some isn not Some weaving is lace, some is not. As a starting definition I would describe lace as: A textile fabric constructed from one or more threads which are interwoven or looped together to form a decorative pattern of open and close areas within that fabric. In handmade lace the thread or threads are manipulated manually with the aid of a needle, bobbins, shuttles, hooks etc whilst in machine made lace they are manipulated by mechanical means. What does anyone else think? Brenda On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:08, margaret palen wrote: > here are various descriptions of many kinds of > bobbin lace or needle lace but they are not definitions of either term. True > handmade lace is weaving in contrast to other forms of making "objects" out of > thread or yarn. A definition is a distinct statement of the meaning of a > term. Please share your ideas about definitions for bobbin lace and needle > lace. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Bangle patterns
i too can not seem to find where to download the patterns... I am not great with computers either... any help will be appreciated... Faye (trying to type while one of her cat's trying to type for her>>) - Original Message - From: "Susan Reishus" To: "post to Arachne" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:37:18 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Bangle patterns "I have bought a set but cannot find how to download the patterns." �Daphne Perhaps they are forwarded to you once notice of payment is received, and they are gone for the weekend (or it is late there)? Best,Susan Reishus(Who has the typical 4 PM dread of, "What I am going to make for dinner?") - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] flickr bobbinlace photos
oh sounds like a wonderful experience!! Faye Hegener on the farm in Drumore, PA From: "Karen Zammit Manduca" To: "Lorelei Halley" , lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:21:01 AM Subject: RE: [lace] flickr bobbinlace photos How interestingI was also there and I also took photos of those same children working their lace at the school. I was tremendously impressed with the high standard of work even by the children.but then, on reading that one third of their school time is dedicated to learning lace (and a young man I spoke to in an Idrija restaurant told me that males have the same curriculum) I was not surprised. It was a great experience but a pity that the rain spoiled many of the outdoor activities. Actually I was surprised that they were not better equipped to "carry on" even in the rain because when I asked one of the key organisers of the event about what clothes to pack, she told me to be prepared for rain. When the rain started on Saturday afternoon, all activities moved into the school - which is when I moved out because I cannot handle being in a crowd, so my visit was regretfully cut short. In the first place, I was there to attend the opening of the exhibition set up at Gewerkenegg Castle in Idrija which was the culmination of a two year Leonardo da Vinci European Union project called Lace- Wealth for the Rich, Benefit for the Poor. Six countries each had to reproduce three pre-1914 costumes (from their own countries). These had to be sourced from old paintings, books etc and had to have lace on them. The results are spectacular. I was one of the three lacemakers who worked on one of the Maltese costumes (the male's) and we made the lace for the cuffs and the jabot. The opening of this exhibition was set to coincide with the Idrija Lace Festival. I imagine that if you had to google around you would find information about this. As part of the project, a DVD was made up with colour-coded patterns, history etc. It is a wonderful production - but I must admit I did cringe when reading the English! Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Lorelei Halley Sent: 29 June 2010 07:41 To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] flickr bobbinlace photos the man who runs the bobbinlace group on flickr has just posted photos of the lace exhibition recently at Idrija. Quite a few photos. Some very interesting modern designs, as well as the expected tradfitional type. Also photo from the permanent lace exhibit at Idrija. http://www.flickr.com/groups/bobbinlace/pool/ Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Definitions
I can see why in the 19th century they would say this. The lacemakers were fighting for their livelyhood. And were trying to save their jobs with the machines now making lace and the customers turning to other cheaper lacesI guess this was said to try and keep their customers... - Original Message - From: "Brenda Paternoster" To: colonialart...@frontier.com Cc: lace@arachne.com, "margaret palen" Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:50:37 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Definitions In the 19th century "real lace" was bobbin lace or needle lace. Tatting, crochet and all the other techniques including machine made lace was not real lace! On 29 Jun 2010, at 00:21, colonialart...@frontier.com wrote: > There are so many types they call lace... and some say there are only 2 true > laces I am not sure what to think. I do tatting and bobbinlace... and to > me they are both lacesbut who am I to judge but they are all truly > beautiful ...and look great however they are used... Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Bangle sizes
When you say bangles are you talking about the braclets that do not have a clasp that you have to force over your hand to get them on and usually do not fit over my pudgy hands LOL I think I have some old ones from when I was thinner Faye Hegener - Original Message - From: "Susan Reishus" To: "post to Arachne" Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:50:54 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Bangle sizes Bangles are still quite popular, esp. for younger girls/women, so try places that cater to them.� Here we have Wet Seal, Hot Topic, and even places like NYC, but I cannot name them all.� I have also seen them at Target, Claires, Icing (affiliated store catering to more mature customer.) If you live in an area that has markets with a cultural focus from food to gift items, Indian or many Middle Eastern places may have them too. You can also hit Google, but shipping applies, so perhaps someone would want to share a package of quantity as perhaps FireMountainGems.com may have.� A search shows they are available on Amazon, Buy.com, Overstock has some, and often their shipping is $1. HTH, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemakers in Arizona
I did this, just now... this is a neat sight... if you are traveling you can look on there and find area lacemakers and possibly visit... How nice...I am spreading the word in my circles Faye just finish - Original Message - From: "Jo" To: "Alan & Sheila Brown" , "lace Arachne" Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:19:48 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Lacemakers in Arizona You will find lacemakers in the region at http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ Jo, the map-assistent of the lacefairy - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
I used to dabble in weaving too. and I gave it up when I needed the space and when I gave it some thought I really hated dressing the loom when I did I usually did more than one thing with one warp If I get back into it I may get one of the rigid heddle looms.. smaller and simpler... what got me started in the historic crafts is when I took up spinning 25 years ago... and have been trying them all since with bobbinlace being my favorite. Most recently have taken up rug hooking... love this not a lot of prep time and no need for written instructions... great for my ADD Faye Hegener going back and forth from Facebook, countrylife and farmville,,, - Original Message - From: "Susie Rose" To: joybee...@comcast.net, jeria...@aol.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:53:44 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft Hello to One & All! Im also a weaver. IMHO woof meaning weft came into being through a misunderstanding by 2 people where one's native tongue was different than the other. My Mom was Danish & could mangle english quite well. I would piggyback many projects off of 1 warping of my loom. Warping a loom is NOT my favorite thing to do. It usually takes about 75 percent of the project's time! One warping I got 7 tablerunners...with a white warp. The next warp, beige, I just tied the thread ends together, three runners on that warp. They were Anerican Colonial patterns that I reproduced. The only difference in them was the color of the weft & the order of the tredling. (Making the sheds to throw the weft.) Hugs, Susie Rose On Thu Jun 24th, 2010 6:28 AM PDT Joy Beeson wrote: >On 6/14/10 10:44 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: > >> David: All you have to remember is that (in English) >> weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are >> horizontal. > >Another way is to remember that weft is that which is woven. > > Dunno how "woof" fits in, but "warp and woof" is >obsolete anyway. [checks Merriam-Webster second edition] >"Weft" actually is a form of "wefan", the old-English word >that became "weave". Synonyms are "woof", "shoot", and >"filling". I suspect that "shoot" is the result of throwing >the shuttle *once*, not all of the filling; that sort of >detail is apt to be left out of a general dictionary. (I'm >too lazy to Google, and haven't a beginners' weaving book on >me.) > >"Shoot" is more appropriate now than it was when the >dictionary was written: nowadays they blow the weft in with >a jet of air instead of using a shuttle. > > >> There is a trick way to remember warp, > >Best just to remember that "warp" is the other one. > >Or to reflect that a loom must be warped before weaving can >commence. (I have read that warping is more than half the >job, so weavers try to plan several projects that can be >woven on the same warp.) > >When you work cloth stitch, the passives are warp and the >workers are weft. > >-- Joy Beeson >http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ >http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ >http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange >http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ >west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. >where there are now only 73 messages in the "Lace" folder. > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Photos of "Lace at Sweet Briar"
oh the group looks fantastic... wish I could have attended Faye Hegener - Original Message - From: "Clay Blackwell" To: "ARACHNE" Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:08:25 AM Subject: [lace] Photos of "Lace at Sweet Briar" I've uploaded a group of photos taken at "Lace at Sweet Briar" last week! It's on the Arachne webshots... http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Definitions
Oh love this... Your Hubby must have been quite a character.. LOL his definition gave me a much needed laugh... LOL Faye , Drumore, PA USA - Original Message - From: "Carol" To: "post to Arachne" Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 5:03:07 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Definitions Thie 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn'. It did make some people wonder about my sanity, I think .. Carol - Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: "Susan Reishus" >> of lace being essentially esthetic holes within a medium, typically >> textiles. > > > Best, > Susan Reishus > > - > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
I really like your definitions... sounds logical... Faye - Original Message - From: "Susan Reishus" To: "post to Arachne" Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:43:04 PM Subject: Re: [lace] definitions I must question the use of scaffolding, as it implies it as an part of an infrastructure, when scaffolding is essentially a structure with scaffolds (akin to sophisticated ladder) to provide access by a worker, that never supports the structure itself, but rather access to be able to execute the task.� (My background in general contracting).� It could be confusing to someone's interpretation of what is going on within the formation of needlelace, if they have any understanding of the word itself.� Perhaps this is why the word foundation is used so frequently in needlelace, as structurally it is more akin to that in providing a basis from which to build upon, etc.� One can quickly see how words, languages, brain function, begin to vary interpretations.� I even looked up the word footing or footer, and current references to tall persons (for example), prevailed over some of the traditional meanings. Best, Susan Reishus � "Defining the difference between bobbin lace and needle lace is probably the easiest part of the question. Bobbin lace is a weaving technique in which the warps are not permanently fixed to a beam but are weighted by bobbins (which also serve to store the thread and serve as a handle for manipulation.� The warps are thus free to move in relation to each other and change positions (which is not possible to any great extent when the warps are fixed to a beam).� Since the warps and weaver threads can all move in any direction and change places a very large variety of different weaves is possible, as are decorative holes of many kinds. Needlelace is constructed almost entirely of variations on the buttonhole stitch, worked with a needle and thread, with only a temporary backing which serves as a scaffolding while the lace is under construction, and which is removed when the lace is completed.� This kind I have taken to calling "true needlelace" simply to have a term to apply to a needle lace with no extraneous, non-needle parts.� I suppose the term "pure" needle lace would also serve, distinguishing it from "mixed needlelace". The only problem with definitions is with the needlelace part.� There are quite a variety of embroidery techniques which use woven cloth or machine made net as a basis to which stitches are added with needle and thread.� There are also combinations of crochet and needle lace stitches, woven narrow tapes and needle lace stitches.� Personally I regard all these latter as laces, but I would distinguish them as embroidered laces or lace-like embroideries, or I would call some "mixed laces". Then there is also the case of filet lacis, which is embroidered square knotted netting, which was traditionally made on a hand made base (but is rarely done that way now).� There is also the case of teneriffe, sol lace, nanduti, which is embroidery and needleweaving laid on to a base of thread spokes created as the first stage of the work.� These are also lace and one could argue that, as originally made, are true needle laces since all the parts are hand made and any backing is only a temporary scaffolding. There are also many traditional bobbin laces which have needlemade parts. 19th century Duchesse with point de gaze needle insets comes to mind, as well as lace with needlemade rings or pops added to the surface.� I have also seen several with bobbin lace motifs but needle lace grounds. Personally I also regard tatting, lacy crochet, and knitted lace as laces. So that's my personal, long winded, contribution to the question." Lorelei - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
what a great poem Faye of Drumore, PA USA - Original Message - From: "Noelene Lafferty" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:17:16 PM Subject: RE: [lace] definitions Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably haven't seen this poem of mine before - apologies to those who already have: What is lace? Lace is just air Surrounded by thread Without us lacemakers The skill would be dead. Lace can be bobbins Flung about with great speed Weaving patterns of beauty Like magic, indeed. Or needle and cotton Drawn with such care Making dainty delights For lace lovers to wear But lace can be shuttles Making knots by the score And carried in pockets For when time is a bore. There's crochet and knitting And hairpins and looms All needing equipment To fill up our rooms. But whatever the method The skill's quite unique We're proud to be makers And we're never meek! by Noelene Lafferty of Cooma, Australia nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > Carol > I really like the "joining holes together with bits of yarn" definition! I > have always thought that the holes were more important than the thread. Lace > is the artful juxtaposition of different kinds of holes. > Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Strange Magazine - I want one too!
does everyone belong to the IOLI or a common lace guild or large group that puts out a book on members like the IOLI does maybe that is how they got the addresses Faye . Drumore, PA USA where it is a beautiful sunny & cool summer day - Original Message - From: laceandb...@aol.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, July 2, 2010 11:03:08 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Strange Magazine - I want one too! Susan said "The magazine that most were sent recently, must have been trolled from this list,.." To which Jean replied "How? Home addresses are not on here..." What I want to know is how did they select who to send them to?� What is the common factor among the lucky people who have had them?� Some of you who had them seem to be unable to remember signing up to anything, and I don't remember anything about it said on Arachne at the signing up stage.� It's obviously not the membership of any particular lace organisation or more of us would have got them.�� Were you all at OIDFA in the Netherlands and signed up there? I am presuming this is the same magazine that was talked about at the beginning of June, then referred to as Dutch, now as Belgian.� I have looked at the� Kant in Vlaanderen website and can't see anything there which looks as if I can order a sample copy.� Is there anyone with the appropriate language who could tell me? Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Strange Magazine-not sinister plot
I agree with you.. Even though we lacemakers are spread out over the world. We are actually all connected one way or another through groups and guilds. I too would love to have a copy of this magazine..I feel left out.. boo hoo.. give me a minute why I have a self pityy party LOL and throw a bit of a spoiled brat tantrum... LOL Faye in Amish Country,, Drumore, PA USA - Original Message - From: dmt11h...@aol.com To: laceandb...@aol.com, lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, July 2, 2010 1:25:20 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Strange Magazine-not sinister plot I know that I signed up for it after Kim's message. The people who are putting out the magazine are well known to us in the lace world, in that they teach and have lived in the US. If anyone got the magazine who did not sign up for it, I am sure it is due to personal contacts made in lace classes with the people putting out the magazine, not any sophisticated email harvesting operation. One of them is an individual that I know quite well who lived here in the US for four years and has a lot of lace friends. In fact, although written in Flemish there is a lot of content in it that is US based and grew out of contacts made at the California IOLI convention. It is a beautiful magazine. I suggest that if you want a copy you email them. Among the contacts are listed Voorzitter: Lydia Mertens: _lydia.mert...@kantinvlaandereen.be_ (mailto:lydia.mert...@kantinvlaandereen.be) Undervoorzitter: Helena Fransens: _helena.frans...@kandinvlaanderen.be_ (mailto:helena.frans...@kandinvlaanderen.be) Coordinator: Hadewig Thiels: _hadewig.thi...@kandinvlaanderen.be_ (mailto:hadewig.thi...@kandinvlaanderen.be) Communicatie: Monique Saquet: _monique.saq...@kantinvlaanderen.be_ (mailto:monique.saq...@kantinvlaanderen.be) Redactieraaad; Marie-Rose Delahaye: _marie.rose.delah...@kandinvlaanderern.be_ (mailto:marie.rose.delah...@kandinvlaanderern.be) The esteemed scholar Martine Bruggeman also lends her name to the publication. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] fioretombolo
thanks for the websigh... and to my surprise google offers a translation button and I clicked it and the italian was transformed into english I had no idea my google did this.. the pics are awesome and I can read everything!!! I hope you can do that too I will have to check out other lace sights and see if it does it with them too Awesome!!! Faye, celebrating the 3th of July quietly at home with my puter and crafts.. - Original Message - From: "Lorelei Halley" Hi Everybody http://fiore-merletto.socialgo.com/ I've looked here and the site is partly set up, but no activity and no photos yet. Don't know if they will require membership before showing you pictures. Also the person who runs the networking site, Fiorenza, says she has a website, where she will post some of the photos from fioretombolo when she gets permission from her members. http://www.fioretombolo.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] fioretombolo
=== correction : slip of the finger... but I am celebrating the 4th of July , not the 3rd == - Original Message - thanks for the websigh... and to my surprise google offers a translation button and I clicked it and the italian was transformed into english I had no idea my google did this.. the pics are awesome and I can read everything!!! I hope you can do that too I will have to check out other lace sights and see if it does it with them too Awesome!!! Faye, celebrating the 3th of July quietly at home with my puter and crafts.. - Original Message - From: "Lorelei Halley" Hi Everybody http://fiore-merletto.socialgo.com/ I've looked here and the site is partly set up, but no activity and no photos yet. Don't know if they will require membership before showing you pictures. Also the person who runs the networking site, Fiorenza, says she has a website, where she will post some of the photos from fioretombolo when she gets permission from her members. http://www.fioretombolo.net - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Storing bookmarks
I have made many a bookmark in my day and I only have one. It is in my bible. I give most of my handcrafted items away to family. I do not have a place to put them or display them. I do so many crafts and have such a small place and I am also into adopting unwanted pets. When You live across the road from a big dairy farm people are always abandoning cats. So I have a few more cast than I need. But I do love them so... So having things on display just is not possible. And my family and friends have something to remember me by and they have the nice places to display them.. So I do not mind that I make them and soon after someone asks me ooo what are you doing with that or, who gets that and I say I guess you do!! LOL Faye in hot and humid Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: "Karen Zammit Manduca" To: "Miriam" , lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:43:59 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Storing bookmarks What do you do with the bookmarks you make? Do you give them away, do you save them. How do you store them? Miriam In a very hot Arad, Israel Well, to be honest I haven't made so many bookmarks as I'm usually too busy doing other things, but I do find it very hard to give away a piece of my lace unless I use the mantra, "This is for so and so," while I am working it :-) I have given away a couple and one Bruges lace bookmark that I made specially for a dear friend (who has several other pieces of my lace). To store them - oh dear - some are in my sample book and others are in various books, just as they came off the pillow. Karen (in a very hot Malta) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: tatting detail in French painting, floor stand & lace
from what I have heard anything prior to early 1800's is Knotting... Tatting was developed from knotting around 1850.. from what I have read... Faye in Drumore, PA - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] tatting detail in French painting, floor stand & lace
they were knotting shuttles prior to tatting shuttles... and they were much larger, the knotting shuttles I have seen do not meet at the points..I baught one to try and learn how to do knotting, but can't find any instructions on knotting... Faye in Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: "Sue Duckles" To: "Jane Partridge" Cc: hottl...@neo.rr.com, lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:22:46 PM Subject: Re: [lace] tatting detail in French painting, floor stand & lace I can remember attending a lace meeting where there was a lady from the Sealed Knot showing the costumes in the time of the English Civil War (late 1700's)... she also showed us some knotting, from memory, the knots were tied with a tatting shuttle, a very short space apart (similar to shown in the photo/painting), and then couched down onto fabric, to create intricate designs in a raised pattern. However, I can't remember more than that. Sue in EY On 8 Aug 2010, at 16:04, Jane Partridge wrote: - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Knotting Instructions
Thanks I will do just that Oh to be able to travel to such places and see such beautiful historical period things would be wonderful... Faye Hegener, in Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: jeria...@aol.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 6:45:35 PM Subject: [lace] Knotting Instructions For years, I searched for good knotting instructions. Then a book was published (which I reviewed on Arachne) containing instructions and lovely photographs. Go to your local library and ask for the Interlibrary Loan Service. Order the following book: "18th Century Embroidery Techniques" by Gail Marsh, ISBN 1-86108-476-5, Guild of Master Craftsman Publications Ltd., 2006. Pages 168-171 give 4 pages of pictures and instructions for Knotting. You may still be able to buy the book. Three years ago, I saw a bedspread of this couched knotting on a bed in a house museum in Bath, England. Period examples do exist!!! Go to _http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html_ (http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html) and enter in search box: 18th Century Embroidery Techniques - for the book review. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] knotting
Is this the same knot as, what we call in Tatting, the Josephine Knot? Faye Hegener, up after my bedtime,,, in Drumore PA... LOL - Original Message - From: "L.Snyder" To: "Arachne" Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 3:56:02 PM Subject: [lace] knotting I sent this to Faye, but for all of you... Knotting, as far as I can tell, and from what I have been told, is just a half knot. So you are making a loop, wrapping your shuttle around your thread and pulling tight. That is it! Or maybe wrap the shuttle a couple times to get a longer knot. Lauren in Snohomish - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] more knotting & tatting?
oh yeah.. the josephine knot is what the kids nowadays were using to make these pretty corded bracelets... and they were doing it free handed no shuttle what so ever... a young lady showed me how she did it some years back.. LOL and I cannot recall what she was calling this at that time. But I told her that was the Josephone Knot in Tatting... This cording you have I would love to see Faye Hegener , really up late after my bedtime in Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: hottl...@neo.rr.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2010 3:37:01 PM Subject: [lace] more knotting & tatting? Hello All! Or should I say merci a tous?! Each respondent filled in part of a collaborative answer! Now I know why a tatting friend refers to some work as Josephine knots. The threadwork in the painting does look more like knots than rings/picots/whatever. Is it possible that the couched knotwork was a form of passementerie or used with crochet for insertions?? Sort of like coronation cord in the early 1900's?? (Yes, I have a stash of coronation cord & some vintage instructions to use it!) I will ask my friend "the Oracle" about knotting unless a "how to" answer appears on arachne first. Sounds like something fun & easy to try while showing off my lovely hands to their best. LOL Click--occasionally the light bulb goes on here!! Susan, recovering from being overheated & overworked in the garden. Erie is 88* & muggy in the midst of drought - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Knotting
That is correct, if you do it during a chain you get a neat continuous twist to the chain. Hmmm I have never seen knetting.. and this tuning fork implement... hmmm shoulds like something I need to look into.. will have to find these instructions also.. Faye Hegener , just awake and getting ready for work... - Original Message - From: "Jane Partridge" To: "mary carey" Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 4:26:54 AM Subject: [lace] Knotting In message , mary carey writes >Hi All, > >My understanding of a Josephine knot is both halves of a square knot with a >single strand "space" inbetween. > That sounds more like a picot - a Josephine knot is a ring made up of stitches which are either the first half of a double stitch or the second half - not both as in a normal ring - makes for a very tiny ring. (Easy to do, wordy to describe!) >I bought a long shuttle a long time ago with a view to trying Filet Lace, >looks like fishing net with filling stitches similar to what I have seen in >other styles of lace books. Have yet to try, maybe with purpose created >"netting" purchased from a specialist shop. We used netting "needles" at college - look like a rod with a tuning fork at either end - you need something thinner than a shuttle if you are aiming for a fine mesh. -- Jane Partridge - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: knotting and tatting?
WOW I stand corrected!! What a great websight, Lots to read, I have to rethink and alter my own thinking and also alter my demonstrations. From what I have read so far I am not sure when tatting was developed?? I am goint to have to take an evening and just read more.. Thanks for the heads up!! I will not assume from now on.. or I will try not to assume... LOL I will no longer put tatting and knotting in the same sentence... Faye Hegener, in Drumore, PA, it is a hot and muggy day again... of course it is August - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" Sent: Monday, August 9, 2010 11:15:50 AM Subject: [lace] Re: knotting and tatting? For those that want to know more, from what my sources tell me, the first recorded statement of "tatting" is in 1834. And with most handiwork you can assume that it had a beginning of many years before that with teachings and word of mouth. If you want detailed research on the history and recorded history of tatting, go to Dan Rusch-Fisher's website. He documented the majority of sources that will debunk some of the myths about tatting and confirm its origins. Click here: http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/ Then scroll down and click on the MISC link. On the left sidebar you will see the HISTORY, IN PRINT, MYTHS, and ORIGINS of TATTING links to read more about it. Just an FYI, -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
I get the same exact reactions and comments. I do the same crafts. I find that kids love the wheel and get the same comments from the adults regarding the bobbinlace. And of course the usual question "Oh is that tatting!" LOL Faye Hegener, Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" , bobbinl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:06:19 AM Subject: [lace] Fiber familiarity These past two evenings my wife and I do our annual sitting at the Community Building at the county fair watching over the building. While we sit we can¹t be idle. So we bring projects. Sunday afternoon I brought my bobbin lace. I brought my big bolster with a tape lace project that is half done. I am most known for my tatting in my area. So I would get the usual comments of ³Is that tatting??² then I go into my usual dialog explaining what I am doing and how it works. Not too many kids stopped by to ask questions. Mostly adults asking questions. Last night I decided to bring my spinning wheel and work out my ongoing roving. This time the adults just watched me or just passed by with a glance. I concluded they either knew what I was doing and didn¹t ask questions or decided to just pass by. The kids(of all ages) however came right up to me asking me all types of questions about my wheel, they liked to handle the wool. I don¹t know if it is the apparatus that I am working with(ie. Pillow and bobbins, or massive wheel that looks like a machine) or could it be the project that I am working on, or the tedium of the task. Most adults say about my bobbin lace, ³that is too tedious, I could never do that² or ³you have to have good eyesight to do that². Kids don¹t say that. No convictions. But when I am at my wheel, I am just sitting in a relaxed position a good distance from the machine. Less stressful looking??? Less inhibiting?? Not that I am stressed or inhibited by all means when working my bobbin lace. I find both lacemaking and spinning relaxing. Sometimes to the point of almost falling asleep LOL! Spinning I assume is most recognizable in most areas and bobbin lace is not. And the "machine" you work on can also play a role in that. Most adults know what a spinning wheel is, but I find that kids may not if not exposed to that part of life history. Harder is it to find the familiarity in bobbin lace and its tools. I get the same wonder from passer-bys but the clientelle is different. Tonight is our last night for bringing our projects to work on while we sit at the building demonstrating. I plan on bringing my bobbin lace and see if I can finish that project. Doubt it, but I will see what more questions are asked and from whom and what will happen ;) -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] knotting shuttles, Josephine knots
I will have to try to end a bookmark with the josephine knots... It would look pretty Faye - Original Message - From: hottl...@neo.rr.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:38:17 AM Subject: [lace] knotting shuttles, Josephine knots Hello All! Finally caught up with my tatting friend by phone last night. She lives in eastern Ohio & teaches tatting in both Ohio & Pennsylvania. She commented that not only were knotting shuttles highly decorative (jeweled, inlaid, carved etc), they were often given by gentlemen as a token of endearment. Her collection of vintage shuttles includes carved/etched mother-of-pearl, bone, tortoise shell etc. but none for knotting, so we wondered whether they might be rather expensive? We hope to meet for lunch this fall so I will take the 18th C Embr. Techn. book & give it a try using a Tatsy (??) if I haven't found a knotting shuttle by then. As to the Josephine knots, she finishes tatted bookmarks with them. The twining cord makes for a charming, vintage look. Although she is not a member of arachne, she was very complimentary as she had met Mark somewhere. She mentioned a gentleman from Holland who tats & designs as well. In the meantime, let's see if the library can find The Art of Tatting, circa 1910! Sincerely, Susan in Erie, PA - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lamp ideas please
That is a great idea!!! I may try that... it is small and bendable... wonderful.. I am learning so much... Faye Hegener Hot Drumore, PA sitting in my AC with one of my cats laying in front of my monitor...(she is just home from spending the night at the Vets.. we are not sure if she is going to recover or.worried a little here... she is sleeping and looks compfy...that is a good sign... - Original Message - From: "Malvary J Cole" To: "Arachne" , bobbinl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:10:59 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lamp ideas please Sue wrote: "I found an advert for a clamp on one which would do, but would prefer something I can maybe pin to my pillow, so wonder what others in the UK use?" I have a couple of booklights which work very well and aren't too large or heavy. One was from my sister, Jacquie, and came from the UK. It has a clip on the base so I put a piece of card through the clip and then pin the card to the pillow. I have a second one, which is smaller, but works just as well. The advantage is that you can bend them to exactly where you want. Malvary in Ottawa where the weather has moderated a little and it is only 28c today - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Fiber familiarity
I think when we demo we should have a pillow with us that has a very small piece on with as little bobbins as we can get away with. Also have a pillow with a larger piece, one that we normally do while doing demos. Maybe let them have a try at the small one and see how really simple it can be. Faye Hegener - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity
I am a reenactor too!! I have done my lace in front of my tent at Rev War events. and I concur with what you say. Also this world is too much into instant gratification.. I love your slogan !!! Faye Hegener - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:03:33 PM Subject: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity I get the "tedious" comment no matter what handwork I am demonstrating(tatting, embroidery, etc.) General public want quick, fast, no fuss type of projects that somehow just get done by themselves and only require just a glance. Have you seen such a project??? LOL! Short attentions spans for sure. Such is this world where it is so fast you don't give time to slow down between life's episodes. As to this instance of kids not interested in bobbin lace, I think it is just the venue. Normally I demonstrate in period costume at our tent and it is a learning environment. But interesting to find the comments and interests in different venues out of the norm. Good slogan, Devon. Tatting does have a slogan"Tatting is KNOT a Lost Art" ;) -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Getting there, getting there
how about "Yoga to you is Thread to me" Faye - Original Message - From: "Aurelia Loveman" To: dmt11h...@aol.com, lynrbai...@supernet.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:49:42 PM Subject: [lace] Getting there, getting there "Yoga in thread!" Now that's a big step forward. Until we think of something that's even better, "Yoga in Thread" sounds good. Let's try it and see what responses we get. Aurelia >Cc: lace@arachne.com >Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity > >In a message dated 8/10/2010 3:02:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >lynrbai...@supernet.com writes: > >We live in a time when people want to do 'crafts' that are quick, >frequently with glue guns. And that's fine. But there are people who are >not interested in the quick and easy. Those who make those Fair Isle >sweaters, or knitted lace shawls on size zero needles. They are few and >far >between now, possibly because there is more instant gratification, from >TV, >from the internet, from the way our culture functions, so the quick >satisfaction becomes the standard. >While there are certainly people who are actually attracted to projects >that take a long time and are very picky, it is that characterization that has > limited the growth of bobbin lace to a very small portion of the >population. The question is, if that is not the kind of thing that appeals to >you >(and I can't say that doing things the hard way appeals to me) what is it >that lace has to offer you? > >What is the gratification, if not instant? > >I actually find that when I am making lace, I often find myself in a zone, >almost a hynotic trance where I have pleasant thoughts. I find that, for >instance, I do not feel as great a need to eat compulsively when I am in this > zone. The focus of hands and mind, especially in very difficult patterns, >gives me a bit of a buzz. > >Bobbin Lace: Yoga with Thread >Bobbin Lace: Where Fiber Art and Meditation Meet >Bobbin Lace: Threaditation > >Devon > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity
that is a great idea. It is a form of weaving and we should demo modern, colorful bookmarks or motifs or jewelry something that will be used and worn everyday. And the jewelry will catch the eye of the younger generations... Faye Hegener - Original Message - From: dmt11h...@aol.com To: tat...@tat-man.net, lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:50:27 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity In a message dated 8/10/2010 1:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tat...@tat-man.net writes: I get the "tedious" comment no matter what handwork I am demonstrating(tatting, embroidery, etc.) General public want quick, fast, no fuss type of projects that somehow just get done by themselves and only require just a glance. Have you seen such a project??? LOL! Short attentions spans for sure. Such is this world where it is so fast you don't give time to slow down between life's episodes. But, then, why do we like it? There is something in the pleasure of it that we are not conveying. When I was the publicity director of the Secaucus convention, the reporter asked me again and again if we made lace because our grandmothers made lace. It was clearly the story she wanted to write, but I don't think that is the primary reason anyone makes it. I think I make lace because I like solving puzzles, just as my mother who never held a needle or bobbin in her hand was a dynamite crossword puzzle worker. In one lace class I attended, it seemed that everyone was a compulsive puzzle solver, even attending puzzle conferences. A friend of mine calls it "The Mensa of the craft world", not a bad slogan in itself. I also like bobbin lace because it is like weaving, but you don't need a loom and the warp isn't fixed. Unlike embroidery, you actually make the fabric, creating it out of nothing. I like it because of the interesting fibers you can use, and the limitless shapes you can make. I like the feel of the bobbins swinging like pendulums So, what is it that we like about lacemaking and how do we convey it to other people? I think one massive barrier is that the word "lace" does not bring in the people who would be interested in a quick, portable, loomless weaving with endless possibilities for color, shape, weave structure and three dimensionality. Instead, the people who are attracted to "lace lessons" are imagining that they will make yards and yards of beautiful white lace of the refinement of the 18th century, or even yards and yards of lace like they see mass produced, only somehow nicer. Often, it is only a massive change in expectations that allows them to continue after they see what it is really like, and how unlikely the making of yardage is. Many, of course, quit as soon as they realize what they have really signed up for. Meanwhile, there must be people who would be attracted to the activity of making modern bobbin lace, but are not interested in making yards of white stuff, so they are not responding to advertisements for "bobbin lace lessons". More and more, people are opting for contemporary looking lace, such that old stereotypes about what a person will be doing with their lace making hobby are not valid. Perhaps we should go with, "Bobbin lace, the quick, versatile, weaving alternative that does not require a separate room in your house for a loom". Or "Bobbin Lace, Weaving without the hassle". Or even, "Bobbin Lace: Weaving set free!" Or, "Bobbin lace: Weaving on steroids". Why do other people on the list enjoy bobbin lace? We all live in the 21st century, after all. I can't believe we are that different than the rest of the population. My daughter, for instance, is spending massive amounts of time and patience learning how to make jewelry. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread
Love It!!! - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:00:41 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread These slogans have conjured up a picture for me. So I had to draw it up and share with you. :) Would be nice on a T-shirt! http://www.tat-man.net/yoga-in-thread.jpg -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples
The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture on the history of Ipswich lace. I found it very interesting and I always wanted to go to Ipswich after taking this class. Still want to. Hope someday to get there.. I heard that some black lace owned by Martha still survived. Black lace usually disintegrates over time due to the black dyes were acidic or something like that. Faye Drumore, Pa. and having a quiet time at home.. - Original Message - From: "Vicki Bradford" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:52:38 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples Hi Devon, There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass. I visited there about ten years ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and it is well worth visiting. Of course you are right that our group has demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace. There is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to going to see it. Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Barley straw
I made a bolster pillow many years ago for my reenacting... My Landlord is a dairy farmer and I asked them what has the least dust and they recommended I use barley... So I went into my landlords haymow, it was filled to the rafters on one side with barley.. In mid August I did this too and boy did I sweat!!!... and stuffed to my hearts content. And I packed that pillow till I could not do it anymore. And to this day it hardly lost any shape or packed down. And I think it has been about 15 years or so since I made it...Barley works great... I did not cut it just made sure it was packed in evenly.. Faye = down on the farm in Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: "Alex Stillwell" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:01:19 PM Subject: [lace] Barley straw Hi Mark Certainly remove twigs and other foreign matter but I'm sure the laceworkers did not cut their straw into such small pieces. In fact, such small pieces would most likely tend to pack down quite quickly. They would just take a handful, fold it a few times and stuff it in. A mallet was sometimes used to pack the straw down. Barley was the preferred straw as the nodes (lumps in the stems) are not too solid and should not interfere with positioning pins, so it not necessary to remove them. I made a similar pillow in the 1980s and it is still very firm. Enjoy your Honiton Alex - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Finished Honiton pillow
what are the dimensions of your pillow? Faye - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" , bobbinl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:38:22 PM Subject: [lace] Finished Honiton pillow Update on my Honiton pillow I am made. I stuffed it really tight and sewn up the opening. Double sewn it so it wouldn't accidentally come undone or rip. And here is my new Honiton pillow http://tat-man.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_5094.jpg I also made 3 cover cloths(as directed in the book by Elsie Luxton) and a bobbin roll cover. I was anxious to get started, so last night I prepared the pricking of the first lesson in her "Techniques of Honiton Lace" of the three leaf sprig. Here you see I have worked a few passes with 15 pairs. Have one more pair to introduce and then continue. http://tat-man.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_5412.jpg A closer view of the work http://tat-man.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_5413.jpg What is nice is the pillow is surprisingly light weight and I have a fairly long lap that I won't be lacing up close to my chest. It is a good distance for lacing. Can't do that with most of my other pillows. Of course I would want it close to my sight since the lacework is so tiny!! ;) -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Re: making a pillow, and Bethesda.
I live in the middle of "Amish Country" Lancaster county, PA ...born and raised here. Even have some plain ancestors.. I have Amish neighbors actually. And years ago an Amish landlord. We have a lot of wonderful stuff here to see in Lancaster county. We now also have a large convention center right in the middle of town. WE have a great Quilt Museum. Our Heritage Center has a lot of hour history on display and offers for sale hand crafted items from our area artist. We also have an art walk in town. Along South Prince Street. Paintings, Pottery, blown glass and handmade jewelry. And a lot of the towns and farms in the county have quilt shops and other handcrafts. Such as handmade furniture. And lots of fantastic rib sticking food... LOL SmorgasbordYUM It is about 2 and a half hours north east of Bethesda. It would be a great day trip or even take a few days after the convention. just email me if you want more info. Faye, in southern Lancaster county, PA - Original Message - From: robinl...@socal.rr.com To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:32:50 AM Subject: [lace] Re: making a pillow, and Bethesda. -- Robin I have been reading up about Bethesda, Maryland, - learning a bit before next years IOLI convention. Lots of information, - but Nothing at all about any Handcrafts! Please tell me what the main crafts are, if anyone knows. - Might they be Patchwork and Quilting (Is it near Amish country? - sorry, but my geography is not crash hot, lately!) There must be lacemaking!!!, - but what else? This might not be what you're after, but Bethesda is right on the edge of District of Columbia. There are a lot of great museums in DC. One to go to, if possible, is the Textile Museum. They don't necessarily have lace on display, but there's usually something of interest. I'm pretty sure the National Museum of Natural History (the Smithsonian) has some crafts on display, but I haven't been for a long time so I don't know exactly what. There are a number of art and history museums which may also have interesting things. I imagine the local committee will have tours to one or more such places. Amish country is to the west of Bethesda, not a long drive but not something you'd get to without a car. Lots of handwork there. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com = Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Postcard Swap
I am so so sorry I forgot there was a deadline. and with a sick kitty that I was nursing than sadly had to put down. And also with all the overtime I was working. ( I work at the unemployment office that is in disaster mode for the past 2 years) I did not get around to it. I am going to do it asap... I am going to be a bit late but I am going to do it. So forgive me PLEASE LOL I am a bit of a scatter brain too.. LOL Faye in Drumore, PA where it is a beautiful sunny Labor Day!! - Original Message - From: "Susan Reishus" To: "post to Arachne" Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:53:46 PM Subject: [lace] Postcard Swap I had my postcards ready to send at the onset, but there was much going on with deaths in the family, etc., so I placed them in a safe place . . . so safe, I couldn't find them for awhile.� They went out at the end of the deadline instead.� I received two of mine and wrote email thanks, which were hopefully received.� I hadn't realized that some send back postcards in return until recent comments, so apologize that I wasn't aware of the custom. Barbara Stokes sent a lovely card with her lace and a collage of flowers from her garden; her photography all beautifully ganged together.� I will send a scan for Pene to post as soon as we resolve our scanner to Mac problem, so all of the lace postcards can be displayed.� Barbara's comment was that her lace wasn't mounted as she didn't favor the fan sticks (to share her comment/s as people enjoy her handiwork.) Best, Susan Reishus� - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Pst Card Exchange
You are most welcome, Faye, Drumore, PA where it is a very cool and windy Autumn day.. - Original Message - From: "janet theaker" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, November 5, 2010 2:44:16 PM Subject: [lace] Pst Card Exchange Many Many Thanks to Faye Hegener For the lovely cards I have received , I will put them in My Collection, - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] snuggling on the beach
oh my!! I would love to do that too!!! Wow!! what an awesom experience!! Faye of Drumore, Pa. http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/23157786/269087697/name/SNUGGLING_ON_THE_BEACH.wmv You haev to watch this. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Do not bother to read this unles you are a bobbin freak or a drop-spindle user! Heavy stuff.
How beautiful that spindle is. If it separates from the base it could be a support spindle. I am an avid drop spindler and I have several different kinds of spindles. Support spindles were used to spin the finer threads. I am willing to bet it is a Support Spindle. Faye of Drumore, PA where we just awoke to 6" of snow. - Original Message - From: "Brian Lemin" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:54:02 AM Subject: [lace] Do not bother to read this unles you are a bobbin freak or a drop-spindle user! Heavy stuff. You will all know by now that I have spent a lot of time at the Metropolitan Museum of Art (NY ) web site. I went looking for other "glass lace bobbins" using Gertrude Whiting as starting clues as I thought she had placed another glass bobbin in the museum as well as the one which I had already found. I was wrong. If it is there I cant find it. However I did find a remarkable "bobbin like" object when I typed in "Spanish Glass" In the key words. It was labeled as a "Glass Spindle" and it appears to me that it was a good description for it as it has a wooden base. I am not sure from the picture if the wooden base is attached to the spindle, if so it will help to stabilize the spin ( I sometimes drop-spindle spin) My real question is whether that glass lace bobbin that is in the met collection and illustrated in Whiting is really a glass lace bobbin. Gertrude herself seems to have some reticence about it as talking about it being presentation bobbin or something (Before page 207 she chats on about this sort of thing) Quite honestly it ( The one in GWs book) makes some sense that it is not a lace bobbin. 1. It is 17 cms long 2. It is glass and Pyrex glass was not around 3. It is a fussy object and would be a pain to use (impractical) 4. It would be so expensive for a lace maker. On the other hand drop spindle spinning is a "peasant" occupation so they would not use a beautiful glass spindle, but perhaps an 18C lady would love to be seen with such an object in her drawing room? I ma struggling here. I would appreciate your opinions and ideas about this. The Hypothesis is that "The Venetian glass bobbin in Gertrude Whiting book is not a lace bobbin but a spindle" To see the two object here is how| Go to www.metmuseum.org, then to Collection Data Base, choose European Sculpture and Decorative Arts. Then for key word type in "methods and materials". Then scroll through until you come to the beautiful pink Venetian glass bobbin. To see the Spanish glass spindle, follow the above but instead of using Methods and Materials as the key words, type in "Spanish Glass" and it pops up usually on the first page. Any help or ideas would be appreciated Brian and Jean >From Cooranbong. Australia You can read my bobbin stuff on: http://tiny.cc/egb85 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Tousteau pillow for sale
A beautiful pillow. Wish I did not have so many already. it should go quickly!! it looks like a high quality pillow. Faye Hegener Drumore, PA - Original Message - From: "Susan MacLeod" To: "lace" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:49:28 AM Subject: [lace] Tousteau pillow for sale Hope it's OK to post here. I'd rather offer it to Arachne members than go thru eBay. This is a roller pillow, I believe an early version, that I've had for years and not used. There are pictures and details at flickr. thanks Sumac in southern VT USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Sweet Briar 2011 and Las Conchas fire
I attended the very first Sweet Briar and took S'Gravenmore (forgive spelling if not right). I had a fabulous time and hope to make it down again in the near future. It was more relaxing to do lacemaking there. And the location is peaceful. I will put the people in your area in my prayers. Hope all stay safe. Faye Hegener Drumore, PA where it is warm and pleasant today. - Original Message - From: "Beth Stoll" To: "Arachne" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:32:28 PM Subject: [lace] Sweet Briar 2011 and Las Conchas fire Ditto to the kudos for Clay and Lace at Sweet Briar. I really appreciated the time to concentrate on lace. I took Binche design with Anny Noben-Slegers and was glad I took it first at Sweet Briar rather than at an IOLI convention with the attendant distractions of banquets and lectures and tours. Perhaps my design bit off a bit more than I could chew, because I didn't at first realize what scale the grounds used in my design idea would cover. I was attempting a stylized Holy Family, figuring it could become a Christmas card image. The ground I had initially chosen for Mary's dress was too large to be effective with a line running through it for the curve of her arm, so several changes were made. I called my husband on Wednesday after class (it was our 37th anniversary; yes, he's a gem to encourage my lacemaking even with that conflict). At that point I still wasn't sure I was getting anywhere on the design or even really understanding the process. But Thursday and Friday things really started to click and I'm confident I'll be able to finish the design, though perhaps not soon enough for this year's card. I was particularly proud of a rather elegant compensation for the ground of Joseph's coat as it went through the curve of his arm near what would be his elbow. I figure slow and steady wins this race. When we flew home into Albuquerque yesterday afternoon, I noticed several KC-130 aircraft with big orange numbers on their tails at the base which shares the airport runway. These are the Air National Guard planes retrofitted for firefighting duty as slurry bombers. There were also several P-2s (the standard air slurry bombers) at the location where they get refilled with the slurry. When I exited the secure area, my husband was not there to greet me, he was 25 feet away at the window, checking out the planes moving through the slurry refilling area and taking off and heading north. As we headed north on the freeway, the Las Conchas fire was already filling the sky with smoke, four hours after it started. My husband hadn't noticed the new fire on his way down to the airport as it was behind him. We determined it was in the Jemez mountains a little southwest of Los Alamos and understood the danger to the a town that had previously been devastated by fire. And I thought of Laurie and her laces. We are tinder dry in New Mexico. Our house has received 0.46 inches of rain since January 1 (about 12 mm) and the Albuquerque airport half of that! So any spark has the possibility of erupting into a raging fire. I dread the Fourth of July coming up. And I'm encouraged to hear, as I write this, the sound of the slurry bombers coming back to load up for another attack on the Las Conchas fire. Beth in Albuquerque, New Mexico - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re:demo question
Is there a pic of this needle somewhere? I would love to see one Faye , of Drumore, PA , where it is beautiful warm autumn evening. - Original Message - From: "Tatman" To: "Lace list" Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:58:38 PM Subject: [lace] Re:demo question Just to add more fuel to the cornfusion, the shuttle(in literature and elsewhere)was sometimes referred to as a tatting "needle". Whether it be shuttle shaped(traditional) or more like a netting needle. I know this because there is one such example of a "Myers Tatting Needle" by the St. Louis Needle Co. I have physically seen and touched this sample that resides in the historical museum in Vandalia, IL. I have only seen this so called "needle" once on ebay. So it is a rare find. It resembles more of a netting needle only is flat and broad and is only 3 inches long. I only wish that I was affiliated with this "tatting needle" because of my namesake and that I live right by St. Louis, MO!!! Just to have my own "Myers Tatting Needle" would be so cool! I have searched. Keep your eyes open!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demonstration idea and spread the word
Lyn you ar so right about the US. I have been demonstrating here in the US for many many years and it is fun when people come up to my pillow and a look of awe comes over their face. I have gotten quite a few interested in lacemaking doing demos around the south eastern part of Pennsylvania. The draw back is, it is hard getting them connected to a quild or supplier due to being few and far between and hard for them to find the info online. Even though I know a good bit about lacemaking I stink at teaching it or I would do it. I will hlep anyone with their problems and give them a few basics but to stear them to a qualified lace teacher close to them is very hard. The US is huge and groups are few and far between. And with these hard times right now it is hard on the pocketbook to get to a weekend class. Alas I could not make it to one of my favorite this year in Ithica. bummer... We should have a websight that all the teachers could put themselves on to get the word! out there to teach this beautiful art form. Faye, in Drumore, PA. a beautiful farming community along the Susquehanna River. - Original Message - From: "Lyn Bailey" To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:21:24 AM Subject: [lace] Demonstration idea and spread the word Two things. First, I have come up with an idea for demonstrating. It may be personal only to me, but it may be useful for someone else to build on. When we were in Sweden, 2004, I chanced upon Vadstena, sort of between Stockholm and Goteborg. Two stationary lace supplies stores. One store is the national association store, and they sell prickings. I mean, how cool is that. (they are also online) One of the things they sell is prickings suitable for church use. So I bought one. At the time, it looked difficult, now, 7 years later, it doesn���t look that bad. Heck, I���m now learning Binche, so a 6 foot or so edging in 40/2 linen, with Torchon ground is not going to be insurmountable. Just need to take measurements of the altar. This is an Episcopal church, and that always means coffee hour. Making the lace that goes on the altar during coffee hour on Sundays should certainly go a long ways toward at least raising the consciousness of the church concerning lace making. Who knows, it may result in a place for lacemaking meetings! You have to remember, you non-Americans, that most people do not know what bobbin lace is, they have never seen it done, and they usually don���t know anyone who does it. They have no grandmother or great aunt who did it. Most have never even seen, consciously, hand made lace of any sort in person. Recruiting from that lot is a long row to hoe. The lady in England who had seen lace demonstrated several times before she gathered the admirable courage to have a go is not a common circumstance in the US. Second, On those few times I have demonstrated, I have handed out a half sheet of 8 1/2 x 11 paper with lists of the local IOLI chartered groups, IOLI url, a few suppliers��� websites, a beginner book I like. I direct them to the next step. It thus behooves ALL chapters to have a website, if at all humanly possible, as that is the most likely way to make contact, AND to keep the website current. Knowing what was going on 2 years ago does not inspire confidence in the existence of a lively, vibrant group. I believe it is much easier to email to a link with a question, than to make a phone call. And the more information you put on the website about the availability of meetings, lessons, demonstrations, along with pictures of members��� completed works, the more likely you are to attract new people. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where I can finally air out my sleeping bag and the good down comforter that kept me so warm in my tent in Ithaca, New York last weekend, where one morning it was 34F, 1C. But I had much more money for books. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Alternative bobbins
Great Idea! I knew someone years ago who did not have glass beads so she took her husbands stash of sinkers from his fishing tackle and his washers from his tool chest. I always say "what ever works"!! LOL Faye, In beautiful PA, USA where the leaves are starting to turn... - Original Message - From: "Jane O'Connor" To: lacel...@frontier.com, "lace_arachne.com" Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:41:49 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Alternative bobbins RE:This discussion reminded me of a man who used to demo lacemaking at the State Fair.� He made a set of bobbins from pencils.. round ones, cut to five inches, and with a thread area cut out.� He wanted to show that expensive equipment was not necessary. L.A.C.E. Fall Newsletter contains a photo of just that. Pencils with grooves cut out and used for makeshift bobbins. I did that for a group lesson and it worked out just fine. �Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Good friends are like stars, You don't always see them, but they are always there. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] bringing in new lacers- Netting the Small Fry
What a great idea Faye - Original Message - From: "Kim Davis" To: "Lace" Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:09:01 PM Subject: [lace] bringing in new lacers- Netting the Small Fry I have been following the discussion about the future of lace and the importance of bringing in new membership. I know that here in the states I am usually the youngest person in a class, and I just had my 40th birthday a few weeks back. I see it both locally and on the national level; we are not attracting a lot of new membership. I have been concerned about this and will be facilitating a forum at the 2012 I.O.L.I. convention called Netting the Small Fry. The motivation for this forum is to bring people together and open a discussion about finding, encouraging and supporting new lace makers. It is geared toward bringing in children as well as young adults. I am currently assembling a panel of people who will present ideas. All attendees are encouraged to bring in whatever ideas and/or patterns they have found useful in working with children, demonstrating and intriguing young adults. If you are unable to attend, please consider this an invitation to send something directly to me and I will bring it along to share. I am working with someone on the education committee to bring the results of our forum to a special page on the I.O.L.I website. If you are interested in participating in any capacity, please send me an email off list to k...@wirelace.net Thanks, Kim - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003