[lace] eBay seller

2015-07-22 Thread Diana Smith
Sorry about the 'spam' in the title line of my message (don't know where that
came from) it will probably finish up in most people's trash ;-)
Diana

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[lace] ebay lace

2011-08-29 Thread Lorelei Halley
Alice
I think the first photo you showed us is a revival era Milanese.  The detail
shots are really quite good. The shapes of the individual motifs is what makes
me question the age.  Also the way the tapes are divided by rows of twists and
each segment has a little hole in it--that would have been done differently in
really old Milanese.
I'm not sure about the age of the figural piece.  It may be old.
Lorelei H

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[lace] eBay item for those who love the Arachne theme...

2011-07-10 Thread Susan Reishus
Item number is: 230644356692

Best,
Susan Reishus

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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-31 Thread lacelady
It looks to me like a fancy sewing stand...and the top section is a pincushion 
with a storage drawer.  If I translated the size correctly (about 36), it's 
about right to stand beside a chair and hold supplies.

The only other thing that comes to mind would be some type of finger braiding 
or craft where the top edge is pinned to something to add tension to the 
whatever, and the work is done in mid-air with the fingers.  The feet could 
hold the stand steady while the fingers worked the craft.

Alice in Oregon -- where we just set a record for rain total in March, and also 
the record for the latest day in the year for reaching a 60 degree temp for the 
day.  Tomorrow will be the first day this year to get that warm.  Previous 
record was March 27.


- Original Message -
From: Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net

 I wrote a few days ago with an inquiry about an Ebay item, but I 
gave the wrong number. It should have been 390300855726.
Does anyone recognize this? Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Engle.
Gee, no response to this inquiry.?This is a needelace akin to Armenian knotted 
lace.  One of several variations, this is Turkish needle Oya.  Can be 
crocheted,beaded, etc.  Oya   loosely translates to embellishment.   Learning 
to make the knot is easy enough. Consistency, for beauty is HARD.  As time 
allows, I have been working on it.  Not much success, so far.  But I persist
Google and go to You Tube..lots there...or write to me. past Pieceworks 
have had a couple of articles. 
Smiles
BarbE
Texas.

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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Engle.
On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net wrote:

 Anyone care to venture a guess if this is related to lacemaking?
 Laurie
 http://lacenews.net
 
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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Engle.
On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net wrote:

 Anyone care to venture a guess if this is related to lacemaking?
 Laurie
 http://lacenews.net
 
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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Agnes Boddington

It says that it is a lace pillow stand.
The small pillow looks removable and the stand itself looks fit for a 
Honiton pillow.

Agnes Boddington



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RE: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Margery Allcock
I don't understand - the eBay item number 390300855726 takes me to a
picture of a mahogany stand of some kind - Klöppelständer Mahagoni um
1840/60 wohl Nordeutsch - which sounds lace-related, although I don't
know how.  But there's no lace in the picture, not needle lace, bobbin
lace, embellished lace ...

Where does that number take you?
Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] 
 On Behalf Of Barbara Engle. 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:28 PM
 To: Laurie Waters
 Cc: lace@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726
 
 Gee, no response to this inquiry.?This is a needelace akin to 
 Armenian knotted lace.  One of several variations, this is 
 Turkish needle Oya.  Can be crocheted,beaded, etc.  Oya   
 loosely translates to embellishment.   Learning to make the 
 knot is easy enough. Consistency, for beauty is HARD.  As 
 time allows, I have been working on it.  Not much success, so 
 far.  But I persist
 Google and go to You Tube..lots there...or write to 
 me. past Pieceworks have had a couple of articles. 
 Smiles
 BarbE
 Texas.

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Fwd: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Engle.
Malory.   I was answering this email from Laurie.  I did go the site she
listed and it is Oya.  I do not question your answer to this eBay number.
ERROR bet'cha!  I have not  checked her link...or yours..WHY?  'cause I am
trying to get used to TEXTING (horrors)  on  my new play prettyan iPad. I
am too old for this!  I hesitate to say thisI am trying not to go over
to my friendly (  ahem) old computer.
This short correction and I am 'emailed' out!!!I will go and look
later..need to take an aspirin and a nap :-d)
BarbE


 Mar. 27, 2011 4:59:54 PM CDT
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 Subject: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726
 Reply-To: Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net


 Anyone care to venture a guess if this is related to lacemaking?
 Laurie
 http://lacenews.net

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Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Engle.
Wow.you gals are fast..
Barb...back for more aspirin an nap.  Giggle giggle

On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Margery Allcock margerybu...@o2.co.uk wrote:

 I don't understand - the eBay item number 390300855726 takes me to a
 picture of a mahogany stand of some kind - Klöppelständer Mahagoni um
 1840/60 wohl Nordeutsch - which sounds lace-related, although I don't
 know how.  But there's no lace in the picture, not needle lace, bobbin
 lace, embellished lace ...
 
 Where does that number take you?
 Margery.
  
 margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] 
 On Behalf Of Barbara Engle. 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:28 PM
 To: Laurie Waters
 Cc: lace@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726
 
 Gee, no response to this inquiry.?This is a needelace akin to 
 Armenian knotted lace.  One of several variations, this is 
 Turkish needle Oya.  Can be crocheted,beaded, etc.  Oya   
 loosely translates to embellishment.   Learning to make the 
 knot is easy enough. Consistency, for beauty is HARD.  As 
 time allows, I have been working on it.  Not much success, so 
 far.  But I persist
 Google and go to You Tube..lots there...or write to 
 me. past Pieceworks have had a couple of articles. 
 Smiles
 BarbE
 Texas.
 
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[lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Laurie Waters
Apologes, I wrote a few days ago with an inquiry about an Ebay item, but I 
gave the wrong number. It should have been 390300855726.

Does anyone recognize this? Thanks,
Laurie
http://lacenews.net 


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RE: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Patty Dowden
I don't think the pillow is usable and it also looks to be too high.  I
rather think that it might have been a very fancy setup for netting or
something like that.  

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Laurie Waters
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:37 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

Apologes, I wrote a few days ago with an inquiry about an Ebay item, but I 
gave the wrong number. It should have been 390300855726.
Does anyone recognize this? Thanks,
Laurie
http://lacenews.net 

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RE: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-30 Thread Patty Dowden
A second thought, might it be a hat stand?

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Laurie Waters
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:37 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Ebay item #390300855726

Apologes, I wrote a few days ago with an inquiry about an Ebay item, but I 
gave the wrong number. It should have been 390300855726.
Does anyone recognize this? Thanks,
Laurie
http://lacenews.net 

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[lace] Ebay item #390300855726

2011-03-27 Thread Laurie Waters

Anyone care to venture a guess if this is related to lacemaking?
Laurie
http://lacenews.net

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Re: [lace] Ebay item

2011-02-11 Thread David C COLLYER

At 03:50 AM 11/02/2011, Diana Smith wrote:

Does anyone have idea what this item is/was used for?

Listing number 290532958457


H - when I first saw the tortoise shell bobbins they looked 
like clothes pegs to me and it reminded me of a kit I have from the 
1930s which was a Silk Stocking Repair Kit. However, as there is no 
way of telling the size of this article I just can't say.


David in Ballarat

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[lace] Ebay item

2011-02-10 Thread Diana Smith

Does anyone have idea what this item is/was used for?

Listing number 290532958457

Diana

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RE: [lace] Ebay item

2011-02-10 Thread Andrea Lamble
Excuse my frivolity but how about a 'travel' washing line and pegs for taking
on that cruise! The long brown things look a bit like the old fashioned wooden
'dolly' pegs and the thick cord could be the washing line - ideal for your
nylons and other 'smalls'!!
Andreausually in Cambridge, UK, but at present in Prague where there have been
some lovely sunny days this week.

 From: dian...@tiscali.co.uk
 To: lace@arachne.com
 Subject: [lace] Ebay item
 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:50:21 +

 Does anyone have idea what this item is/was used for?

 Listing number 290532958457

 Diana

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RE: [lace] Ebay item

2011-02-10 Thread The Lace Bee
I've had a really good look at this and I think Andrea is right.  I've seen
similar looking pegs and line systems back in the 80s in camping shops so it
rang a bell.
 
L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/

--- On Thu, 10/2/11, Andrea Lamble andreal...@hotmail.com wrote:



Excuse my frivolity but how about a 'travel' washing line and pegs for taking
on that cruise!

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[lace] Ebay item

2010-12-06 Thread Brian Lemin

I would like to know more about this bobbin id anyone can help please.

It looks like a German hooded bobbin.  The Jenny Lind style is new to me. 
Perhaps I should know about it but I do not!


Any help will be gratefully received.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Antique-LACE-BOBBIN-mid-19thC-Jenny-Lind-Style-Turning-/370463728638?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item56415be3fe








From Brian and Jean
Cooranbong.  Australia 


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Re: [lace] Ebay item

2010-12-06 Thread bev walker
Just an idea, the seller probably knows about wood-turning for
furniture, but not about bobbin turning ?
I did a quick google for Jenny Lind wood-turning style, to see that
there are links for furniture about it.

On 12/6/10, Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com wrote:
 I would like to know more about this bobbin id anyone can help please.

 It looks like a German hooded bobbin.  The Jenny Lind style is new to me.
 Perhaps I should know about it but I do not!


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] Ebay lace

2010-07-02 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Meanwhile I managed to make the pictures clearer, There is a gimp around the 
motives. And the little things are worked in linen stitch and look as if two 
spiders meet in one piece,

Ilske

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[lace] Ebay lace pictures

2010-07-01 Thread Louise Bailey
For those of you who don't want to mess with IE vbg, here are the links to
the actual pictures from the html source file for the Binche kerchief ...

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_099_006.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_100_006.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_101_006.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_102_004.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_103_005.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_105_004.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_106_004.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_107_005.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_108_001.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_109_004.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_110_001.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_112_004.jpg=600

http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_113_002.jpg=600

regards

Louise

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Re: [lace] Ebay lace pictures

2010-07-01 Thread Madame RD
Le 01/07/10 14:49, Louise Bailey a écrit :
 For those of you who don't want to mess with IEvbg, here are the links to
 the actual pictures from the html source file for the Binche kerchief ...

 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_099_006.jpg=600




and from Clay's pictures of lace at Sweet Briar : Bintche handkerchief 
edgings
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2037869680048870129OTbyqf
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2341682610048870129qdwEtB

very similar ..
dominique from very very hot Paris ..34°C today or so they say ..

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[lace] Ebay item ? Crochet??

2009-12-13 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,
check out this item on ebay which the seller describes as big lot of 
vintage antique crochet


160385479531

While the picture is not too closeup I think there might be some 
lovely laces here - 4 days to go, currently only AUS$9.95

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] ebay item 250543185374

2009-12-06 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Patty -  I agree with you that it's probably not Tonder.  What struck 
me was that the loads and loads of finger-like gimp-work looks a lot 
like Beveren.  Any thoughts?


Clay

Patricia Dowden wrote:

Hello all,

ebay item #250543185374

Just curious about this piece of lace, it says Txnder, can it really be
without tallies?

It's a pretty piece all the same,

Irene

=

I am not convinced this piece is Tonder.
The footside has catchpins (Bucks-like)
The headside has 2 pairs minimum (not a Tonder practice which usually only
has 1 pair before a bundle)
The design is not very Tonder like (classical swoops and not Tonder like
flowers) and contains thistles, a much more English sort of subject

I am more inclined to the sort of point ground made during the Regency in
England, especially because of the interior gimps defining the stems of
leaves.  So to me it is regency Bucks.

Patty

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Re: [lace] ebay item 250543185374

2009-12-06 Thread Diana Smith

I looked at my copy of the reprinted book on Tonder Lace by Emil Hanover and
though I could find no thistles the same general design layout is found in 
some of the

laces he describes as Tonder Lille types.

'Regency Point' has no gimps around the outside of cloth areas so I think I 
would

rule that out. Considering the number of loops and fingers I've failed to
get a good look at the finishing of a pair of gimps, this will sometimes
indicate which side the footside was worked which narrow down the 
possibilities-

perhaps someone with better software than mine.

Diana in Northants

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[lace] ebay item 250543185374

2009-12-05 Thread Whitham, Irene Steve
Hello all,

ebay item #250543185374

Just curious about this piece of lace, it says Tønder, can it really be
without tallies?

It's a pretty piece all the same,

Irene

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RE: [lace] ebay item 250543185374

2009-12-05 Thread Patricia Dowden
Hello all,

ebay item #250543185374

Just curious about this piece of lace, it says Txnder, can it really be
without tallies?

It's a pretty piece all the same,

Irene

=

I am not convinced this piece is Tonder.
The footside has catchpins (Bucks-like)
The headside has 2 pairs minimum (not a Tonder practice which usually only
has 1 pair before a bundle)
The design is not very Tonder like (classical swoops and not Tonder like
flowers) and contains thistles, a much more English sort of subject

I am more inclined to the sort of point ground made during the Regency in
England, especially because of the interior gimps defining the stems of
leaves.  So to me it is regency Bucks.

Patty

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Re: [lace] Ebay pillow

2009-08-15 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hi Laurie -

In the book, The Complete Book of English Bobbin Laces, Pam Nottingham 
gave directions for building a very similar pillow.  When I first 
started making lace, I built a pillow based on her instructions.  I 
suspect there were a lot of pillows like this at one time!


Clay

Laurie Waters wrote:
Does this Ebay pillow look familiar to anyone? 120458476616 I think 
it's English. It isn't the first time I've come across something like 
this, the one in my collection has old wooden spangled bobbins, so it 
has some age. I wrote to the seller, she said she bought it in an 
antique shop in North Wales about 20 years ago. She thinks it's stuff 
with sawdust, although I find that unlikely.  Maybe some English 
lacemakers out there recognize it? Thanks,

Laurie
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[lace] Ebay pillow

2009-08-14 Thread Laurie Waters
Does this Ebay pillow look familiar to anyone? 120458476616 I think it's 
English. It isn't the first time I've come across something like this, the 
one in my collection has old wooden spangled bobbins, so it has some age. I 
wrote to the seller, she said she bought it in an antique shop in North 
Wales about 20 years ago. She thinks it's stuff with sawdust, although I 
find that unlikely.  Maybe some English lacemakers out there recognize it? 
Thanks,
Laurie 


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Re: [lace] Ebay item 180391829649

2009-08-03 Thread Diana Smith
It looks like it could be something to slide under the needlelace while 
working to raise a small area. Springetts used to give away a small 
inscribed 'rolling pin' on their needlelace courses for this purpose.

Of course I may be wrong!!
Diana in Northants

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Anyone have any idea what this Ebay thing is?
180391829649
Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 180391829649

2009-08-03 Thread Maureen Bromley

Dear Laurie

I would also say that it is a lifting stick used in needlelace, when you are 
using a needlelace pillow.You can still buy them new from Needlepaws, 
based near Tamworth.  Bob Weston makes them, his wife, Anne Weston was 
formerly Chairman of The Guild of Needlelaces.They are very good quality 
and a very useful tool to have. But a chopstick will work just as well 
which is what I use.However they come in sets with other tools and make 
a very good present.


Have you ever tried needlelace?   I do enjoy doing it, but do more bobbin 
lace.


Maureen
East Yorkshire (it is sunny today, but forcast rain for tomorrow (maybe!!)
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[lace] Ebay item, Lace display

2009-08-03 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Yes, it looks like a lifting stick for needlelacers.

The Guild of Needlelaces sells them for £4.50!!

Contratulations, Pene, for your 2nd prize.  What a teriffic display of lace
you had.  Well done to the whole group who participated.  Thanks for the URL
so we could enjoy the diplay, too.

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[lace] Ebay item 180391829649

2009-08-02 Thread Laurie Waters

Anyone have any idea what this Ebay thing is?
180391829649
Thanks,
Laurie

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[lace] eBay ?bobbins

2009-02-28 Thread Diana Smith

Some more 'I don't know what they are so I'll call them bobbins' on eBay.

Item number 160318638519

Diana in Northants

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Re: [lace] eBay ?bobbins

2009-02-28 Thread Brian Lemin

Item number 160318638519


I cant find anything like it in the books!.

I can guess:

1: A thread waxer.  The wax would be in the hole and the thread passed 
through the slot! (?)


2: Ornamental ends for something!  Say knitting needles?

Frankly I have no idea!




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Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've done a few jewellery classes and have drawn wire by hand.  Even 
very thin wire very definitely has to be clamped at one end and clasped 
tightly with pliars at the other end on order to pull it through the 
holes and it's quite a physical effort.


Gravesend Adult Ed Centre has a very well equipped jewellery workshop.  
For wire drawing a heavy metal plate with holes in (rather like a very 
heavy knitting needle gauge) is clamped at one end of the apparatus.  
The wire is filed to a point to push a few mm through the required 
hole, grasped with very heavy pliars and pulled through to narrow and 
elongate it.  There is no way the little contraption on ebay could be 
used for wire drawing!


I think it may be for positioning threads in embroidery - or even for 
crimping pastry but not wire drawing!


Brenda

On 27 Jan 2009, at 05:25, Avital wrote:


So my guess was right (and if I'd been paying attention, I would have
seen the French and translated it but I've had a cold for a couple
days). It's a tool for drawing wire. Wire is made by hammering a piece
of metal into thinner and thinner (and longer) pieces. The final wire
is formed by drawing it through a gauge with pre-formed holes (we're
talking about wire-making by hand). I wasn't sure about it because
most of the wire-drawing tools I've seen had handles that enabled you
to clamp them to a work bench because you want the gauge to be fairly
stable so that you can draw the wire through with a pair of pliers. If
the metal were very soft, I guess you could use a hand-held
wire-drawer like this.

Here's an article explaining the process:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_drawing

Most wire-making is done by machine these days but there are jewelers
who do wire-drawing by hand. Arlene Fisch describes the process and
tools in her book, Textile Techniques in Metal. (Great book. Pity it
appears to be out of print at the moment.)

Avital


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Susan Reishus
elationrelat...@yahoo.com wrote:

The online translation is for the ebay item is:

Draw wire Handle in oak Very beautiful general presentation

So must be something for wire to place while working with it.  
Conceptually reminds me of a French knitter so one can work in a 
tube.  The openings seem disturbingly harsh for threads, imho.  I 
agree that often listers can unknowingly misrepresent items.


Best,
Susan


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Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster

On 27 Jan 2009, at 05:25, Avital wrote:


So my guess was right (and if I'd been paying attention, I would have
seen the French and translated it but I've had a cold for a couple
days). It's a tool for drawing wire. Wire is made by hammering a piece
of metal into thinner and thinner (and longer) pieces. The final wire
is formed by drawing it through a gauge with pre-formed holes (we're
talking about wire-making by hand). I wasn't sure about it because
most of the wire-drawing tools I've seen had handles that enabled you
to clamp them to a work bench because you want the gauge to be fairly
stable so that you can draw the wire through with a pair of pliers. If
the metal were very soft, I guess you could use a hand-held
wire-drawer like this.

Here's an article explaining the process:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_drawing

Most wire-making is done by machine these days but there are jewelers
who do wire-drawing by hand. Arlene Fisch describes the process and
tools in her book, Textile Techniques in Metal. (Great book. Pity it
appears to be out of print at the moment.)

Avital


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Susan Reishus
elationrelat...@yahoo.com wrote:

The online translation is for the ebay item is:

Draw wire Handle in oak Very beautiful general presentation

So must be something for wire to place while working with it.  
Conceptually reminds me of a French knitter so one can work in a 
tube.  The openings seem disturbingly harsh for threads, imho.  I 
agree that often listers can unknowingly misrepresent items.


Best,
Susan


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Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I agree with Brenda,  this item is not for 'drawing' wire but might be for
sizing although very limited.
My wire 'gauge' (used to determine the size) has about 3-4 dozen holes from
very fine to pencil size.

Lorri  (formerly a custom fine jeweler)


  Subject: Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)


  I've done a few jewellery classes and have drawn wire by hand.  Even
  very thin wire very definitely has to be clamped at one end and clasped
  tightly with pliars at the other end on order to pull it through the
  holes and it's quite a physical effort.

  Gravesend Adult Ed Centre has a very well equipped jewellery workshop.
  For wire drawing a heavy metal plate with holes in (rather like a very
  heavy knitting needle gauge) is clamped at one end of the apparatus.
  The wire is filed to a point to push a few mm through the required
  hole, grasped with very heavy pliars and pulled through to narrow and
  elongate it.  There is no way the little contraption on ebay could be
  used for wire drawing!

  I think it may be for positioning threads in embroidery - or even for
  crimping pastry but not wire drawing!

  Brenda

  On 27 Jan 2009, at 05:25, Avital wrote:

   So my guess was right (and if I'd been paying attention, I would have
   seen the French and translated it but I've had a cold for a couple
   days). It's a tool for drawing wire. Wire is made by hammering a piece
   of metal into thinner and thinner (and longer) pieces. The final wire
   is formed by drawing it through a gauge with pre-formed holes (we're
   talking about wire-making by hand). I wasn't sure about it because
   most of the wire-drawing tools I've seen had handles that enabled you
   to clamp them to a work bench because you want the gauge to be fairly
   stable so that you can draw the wire through with a pair of pliers. If
   the metal were very soft, I guess you could use a hand-held
   wire-drawer like this.
  
   Here's an article explaining the process:
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_drawinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_d
rawing
  
   Most wire-making is done by machine these days but there are jewelers
   who do wire-drawing by hand. Arlene Fisch describes the process and
   tools in her book, Textile Techniques in Metal. (Great book. Pity it
   appears to be out of print at the moment.)
  
   Avital
  
  
   On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Susan Reishus
   elationrelat...@yahoo.commailto:elationrelat...@yahoo.com wrote:
   The online translation is for the ebay item is:
  
   Draw wire Handle in oak Very beautiful general presentation
  
   So must be something for wire to place while working with it.
   Conceptually reminds me of a French knitter so one can work in a
   tube.  The openings seem disturbingly harsh for threads, imho.  I
   agree that often listers can unknowingly misrepresent items.
  
   Best,
   Susan
  
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RE: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Elizabeth Pass
My husband has a gadget rather like this.  He uses it to set the teeth on
his tenon saws.

Liz Pass
(Poole, UK)

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Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-26 Thread Avital
So my guess was right (and if I'd been paying attention, I would have
seen the French and translated it but I've had a cold for a couple
days). It's a tool for drawing wire. Wire is made by hammering a piece
of metal into thinner and thinner (and longer) pieces. The final wire
is formed by drawing it through a gauge with pre-formed holes (we're
talking about wire-making by hand). I wasn't sure about it because
most of the wire-drawing tools I've seen had handles that enabled you
to clamp them to a work bench because you want the gauge to be fairly
stable so that you can draw the wire through with a pair of pliers. If
the metal were very soft, I guess you could use a hand-held
wire-drawer like this.

Here's an article explaining the process:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_drawing

Most wire-making is done by machine these days but there are jewelers
who do wire-drawing by hand. Arlene Fisch describes the process and
tools in her book, Textile Techniques in Metal. (Great book. Pity it
appears to be out of print at the moment.)

Avital


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Susan Reishus
elationrelat...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The online translation is for the ebay item is:

 Draw wire Handle in oak Very beautiful general presentation

 So must be something for wire to place while working with it.  Conceptually 
 reminds me of a French knitter so one can work in a tube.  The openings seem 
 disturbingly harsh for threads, imho.  I agree that often listers can 
 unknowingly misrepresent items.

 Best,
 Susan

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Re: [lace] ebay item/horsehair

2008-11-06 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:44:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm  surprised that, as Jeri suggests, horsehair lace crimps when wet. It 
never  did when I washed my horses' mains and tails when they were still 
attached  to the animals.


Having no experience with washing horse hair, I will offer the suggestion  
that whenever you have two different fibers in a piece, they may react  
differently to washing. The linen may even shrink, causing the horse hair to  
look as 
though it has crimped, or the horsehair may react differently than the  linen, 
causing a puckering. 
 
I have a piece of Alencon with horse hair going through the picots and the  
effect is that of picots strung on a piece of fishing line, or other stiff  
synthetic.In my piece of Alencon the horse hair is white/ almost  transparent, 
stiff and very straight. If washing created puckering, I think the  user might 
just remove the horsehair, since its purpose seems to be to keep the  picots 
all neatly in a row.But the  picots could exist without it. They  would just be 
less orderly looking.
 
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[lace] eBay item

2008-11-05 Thread Margot Walker
There's also a piece in the Northampton Museum and Margaret Tite has  
a piece in her collection.  They're both beautiful, especially since  
they use blonde, brown, and black hair.


On 4 Nov 2008, at 23:26, Brian Lemin wrote:

When I was studying for a few days at the Luton Museum, the then  
curator brought me a piece of human hair lace to see.  It was a  
veil to a hat.  I never thought to photograph it, but it remains a  
fortunate memory of mine.


Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace] eBay item-human hair lace

2008-11-05 Thread Dmt11home
There is also an entire fan in Chantilly technique, very complex, at  the 
Metropolitan Museum of Art made in what appears to be either blond or gray  
human 
hair. From the same donor there are some dress ornaments in human hair. I  
think they are supposed to be French.
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Re: [lace] eBay item-human hair lace

2008-11-05 Thread Clay Blackwell
I wonder if this is an off-shoot of the 18th c. practice of making 
jewelry from the hair of a loved one.  Originally, these were made as 
love tokens...  and one would *never* wear such an item until they were 
formally betrothed!  But this was a way to keep the loved one near to 
your heart.  When cameras were invented, and lockets with pictures were 
all the rage, the hair-jewelry industry re-invented itself, and the 
jewelry was marketed as mourning jewelry, being made from the hair of 
a deceased loved one.  But entire pieces of lace from hair!...  Imagine 
how long the hair would have had to be, and how many times - even then - 
that you'd have to replace a strand with a new one.  What an enormous 
nuisance - that would certainly discourage me from working it!!


Clay

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is also an entire fan in Chantilly technique, very complex, at  the 
Metropolitan Museum of Art made in what appears to be either blond or gray  human 
hair. From the same donor there are some dress ornaments in human hair. I  
think they are supposed to be French.

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Re: [lace] eBay item-human hair lace

2008-11-05 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 11/5/2008 9:42:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But  entire pieces of lace from hair!...  Imagine 
how long the hair would  have had to be, and how many times - even then - 
that you'd have to  replace a strand with a new one.  What an enormous 
nuisance - that  would certainly discourage me from working it!!



Actually, this is very interesting. In the case of our piece, I would say  
that you could get away with hair that is a foot or 18 inches long. As in  
working with fine silk, you don't actually use that much. The fan like most  
large 
chantilly pieces, is made in strange illogical shapes, suggested by  the 
flowers, but not obvious to the eye. They are then sewn  together, making all 
the 
joins interior joins, so that the edges have no ends  that need to be finished 
on them. The hair, when it gets to a  short end can be brought into the many 
stranded gimp bundle (probably the  wrong term here) and disappear, while other 
pieces are brought in neatly.  Actually Chantilly is a good mode for using 
short pieces, better than say, a  long torchon strip.
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Re: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-05 Thread Diana Smith
The beautiful piece of hair lace in the collection of Northampton Museums is 
needle lace and is in varying shades of blonde and light brown - we were 
lucky to be able to display it in the expo in 1999.


Some years ago someone asked if I could make a piece of lace from horse 
hair. They supplied hair from a horses tail and I attempted what turned out 
to be a very short piece of torchon!! It was very brittle - either from a 
very old tail or a very old horse ;o)


Diana in Northants

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Subject: [lace] eBay item


There's also a piece in the Northampton Museum and Margaret Tite has  a 
piece in her collection.  They're both beautiful, especially since  they 
use blonde, brown, and black hair.


On 4 Nov 2008, at 23:26, Brian Lemin wrote:

When I was studying for a few days at the Luton Museum, the then 
curator brought me a piece of human hair lace to see.  It was a  veil to 
a hat.  I never thought to photograph it, but it remains a  fortunate 
memory of mine.


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RE: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-05 Thread Sue
I cannot imagine even trying to make lace with horse hair, my granny had a
horse hair sofa when I was very young and when you sat on it you sometimes
got pricked by a loose hair sticking through, can still remember jumping
when that happened.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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[lace] eBay item

2008-11-04 Thread Diana Smith

Amazing item on eBay no 120328659264

Antique bobbin lace mourning memorial made of human hair - the hair of Anne 
Clerke.


Diana in Northants 


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Re: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's the type of thing the Victorians did (is it right to say 
Victorians for 19th century Americans?) but I don't think it's BL, 
looks more like NL to me.


Brenda


Amazing item on eBay no 120328659264

Antique bobbin lace mourning memorial made of human hair - the hair of 
Anne Clerke.




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Re: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-04 Thread Diana Smith
I downloaded the picture which is quite clear. I think there is a chance it 
could be BL.


Diana

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It's the type of thing the Victorians did (is it right to say Victorians 
for 19th century Americans?) but I don't think it's BL, looks more like NL 
to me.


Brenda


Amazing item on eBay no 120328659264

Antique bobbin lace mourning memorial made of human hair - the hair of 
Anne Clerke.




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Re: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-04 Thread Brian Lemin
When I was studying for a few days at the Luton Museum, the then curator 
brought me a piece of human hair lace to see.  It was a veil to a hat.  I 
never thought to photograph it, but it remains a fortunate memory of mine.




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Amazing item on eBay no 120328659264

Antique bobbin lace mourning memorial made of human hair - the hair of 
Anne Clerke.


Diana in Northants
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Re: [lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-22 Thread Laceandbits
If you look at his history, he deals in all sorts and has sold more than one 
copy. Vivienne

I would do, but as far as I can see you haven't given us a link.  This makes 
it difficult for us to write any letters of condemnation to him.

This is a typical example of the 'other side of the coin' created when e-bay 
decided to stop contact between, and to keep anonymous the identity of, 
bidders.  I appreciate that it was designed to stop crooks contacting 
underbidders 
with false offers of the same item for sale (which anyone with a modicum of 
common sense would be wary of), but it now means we cannot warn bidders that 
the 
item they are bidding on is not genuine in some way.  

Writing to the seller direct is the only remaining option left to us, and if 
enough of us do it, telling him that 'the lace world' is on to him, it may 
slow him down a bit.  Have you thought of writng to the Lace Guild, Lace 
Society 
and the Lacemaker's Circle?  A warning letter in those may help reduce his 
customer base.

Good luck Vivenne, and you may need it.  From what I have heard e-bay are 
usually fairly disinterested in this sort of matter.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire
 


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[lace] eBay biggins patterns

2008-06-22 Thread Diana Smith
I also cannot find a link to this listing but surely the person is doing 
nothing wrong merely selling a 'second hand' item - not a reproduction/copy. 
This is the whole idea - to sell unwanted items!


Would it be better to send them to landfill - which would benefit no one?

Diana in Northamptonshire 


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Re: [lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-22 Thread VivienneWalton
I am not going and never was going to pursue it. I just think why pay more
to a ebayer than to the original designer like Joan Kelly and Christine
Springett! He starts his bid on my patterns at £1.95. The new one is £2 and I
can
help you if you need advise. So, if no one is willing to over pay he has to
stick to the many other things he sell like ladybird books.  Vivienne

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[lace] Lace Ebay seller

2008-06-22 Thread Daphne Martin
Hello everyone.
 I have been reading about the Biggens patterns on e`bay.
The lady in question Chris Greg would be horrified to know she is doing
anything wrong.
I bought a card which was advertised as handmade lace. It turned out to be
machine lace. It is still pretty so I did`nt mind,
I did write to her and pointed this out to her, she apologised and refunded
my money.
I did`nt want her to do that because as I have already said I was happy.
She told me she was selling the lace items for an old lady who has given up
lacemaking and is`nt too clear in her head about many things.[It comes to us
all in the end]
So the prices have come from her and the seller went by that.
Yes I can see what Vivienne said about the price it was put in the auction
for should have been a lot lower. But if you don`t know what price things
are new, what can you do???
In essence the seller is not doing anything wrong as such, she just took
advice from the owner of the patterns etc. Which was misguided.
 Daphne Norfolk England

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Re: [lace] Lace Ebay seller

2008-06-22 Thread VivienneWalton
Hi Daphne, I haven't looked at her site but the friend who told me has. In  
her history she has sold more than one copy of patterns. Does a little old lady 
 have more than one copy? I think she may be very savvy. We once bought a car 
 which we had been told had only been driven by a little old lady. We later 
found  we had been conned! I am not trying to stop you buying her stuff but if 
you want  people like Christine Springett and us at Biggins (I think the 
wonderful Joan  Kelly is no longer designing) to keep on designing for you all 
you 
need to  support us. The lace world is shrinking so you all need to support 
us. Joan is a  wonderful (sorry Joan) old lady and if she got 10p for every 
pattern of hers  that has been stolen she would be a lot better off in her 
retirement than she  actually is. I can hold my hand up and say, even before we 
designed our own  patterns I never ever copied someone else's pattern. If I 
really 
liked it I sent  off for one. This is my last email on the subject. Since I 
have been in plaster,  though I am working as much as I can I have a lot of 
time 
to think. I shall try  to come up with a new subject soon. Vivienne

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Re: [lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Presumably I'm searching incorrectly, because I can't find any of Vivienne's
patterns on ebay. Can you give us a link or at least an item number Vivienne
so we know who this person is?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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  I am not going and never was going to pursue it. I just think why pay more
  to a ebayer than to the original designer like Joan Kelly and Christine
  Springett! He starts his bid on my patterns at £1.95. The new one is £2 and
I
  can
  help you if you need advise. So, if no one is willing to over pay he has to
  stick to the many other things he sell like ladybird books.  Vivienne

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[lace] lace Ebay seller

2008-06-22 Thread Daphne Martin
To Jean and everyone
Here is the link for the e`bay seller.









LACEMAKING - LOVELY QUALITY HEAVY BRASS PATTERN PRICKER
Item number: 380036862095
There are no patterns at present on the link.  DaphneSunny norfolk England
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[lace] ebay seller

2008-06-22 Thread Jean Nathan
I finally found the Biggins snowflake pattern on ebay under completed 
listings - no-one wanted it.


I'd be a bit miffed if I thought someone was trying to rip off designers, 
but what's listed, (single patterns and odd reels of thread as well as 
equipment) is clearly someone giving up lacemaking. I don't think there's 
any attempt to steal designs, just to sell on what's no longer wanted rather 
than put in the trash.


As a published author, I'd rather my work was passed/sold on rather than end 
up as rubbish.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-21 Thread VivienneWalton
We have found someone selling Biggins patterns on Ebay. The are starting
with Snowflake beginning £1.95. You ca buy it from us at £2 plus can ring us
if
you need any help! Please don't encourage these people.  Vivienne

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[lace] ebay lace patterns

2008-06-21 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi

Just read the posting on the ebay lace patterns and wanted to know as a rule
are these patterns originals that someone has bought but not used.  I would be
a bit worried that the patterns would not be clear and therefore a waste of
money.  The best way I find is wait for the laceday to come along and stock up
that way you get the most up to date ones. They are cheap enough and like
Vivien has said you do get a good back up service.

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Re: [lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-21 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hello Vivienne -

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.  This person seems to be selling a 
legitimate copy of the pattern - not something that was reproduced for 
the purpose of selling it while keeping the original.We buy 
previously owned lace books all the time on eBay, and I have been 
thrilled to be able to find patterns, etc., that have gone out of print.


I realize that the eBay and internet stores are really hurting shops 
which have a physical location.  And I realize that we will all be sad 
when there are no longer lovely little shops to browse around in.  But 
for people who don't have lovely little shops nearby, the internet is a 
wonderful thing.  So please, help me understand why these people 
shouldn't be encouraged. 


Clay


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Re: [lace] Ebay Biggins patterns

2008-06-21 Thread Kate Henry
They probably bought them from Vivienne in the first place.  Do they take 
back unused patterns? I wouldn't expect them to.

Kate Henry
Indiana USA

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We have found someone selling Biggins patterns on Ebay. The are starting
with Snowflake beginning £1.95. You ca buy it from us at £2 plus can ring 
us

if
you need any help! Please don't encourage these people.  Vivienne

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[lace] ebay item

2008-06-01 Thread Jean Nathan

I agree with Clay - I think it's oilcloth (imitation leather).

In the second from last picture (of the studs around the edge), I'd say 
that, under the stud which is above the right side of the box upright, you 
can see the weave of the canvas the leather coating is applied to. 
Admittedly this is the trim around the edge, but it matches exactly the rest 
of the covering. I also think the folds/creases in the covering look more 
like old oilcloth than old leather. With leather, I'd have expected some of 
the top finish to show wear along the creases (think of your leather 
handbags/purses), which it doesn't with this item.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] Ebay item

2008-05-31 Thread Jean Nathan

The following is described on ebay:

VINTAGE LACE MAKERS STAND

Description:

Solid wood bottom weighted stand and pillow shelf.  Leather lace apron.
Used for a bolster pillow,

Size: 36 high.  Shelf 8 x 7   Apron 14 x 11.5

I haven't heard of lacemakers wearing a leather apron, but I could be wrong
of course, and I wouldn't have thought an 8 x 7 shelf would be big enough to
hold a bolster pillow.

Item number: 290234882216

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-LACE-MAKERS-STAND_W0QQitemZ290234882216QQihZ019QQcategoryZ19158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

tinied: http://tinyurl.com/5l9dg4

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Ebay item

2008-05-31 Thread beth
I would have thought the leather apron was to go over the pillow (like a 
cover cloth) to prevent the bobbins/threads catching on the edges of the 
pricking. Or perhaps it's used to fasten the top of the bolster to the stand?

The shelf wouldn't be big enough to sit the whole pilow on, but it would be 
enough to support the back end of the bolster while the lacemaker sat with 
the other end on her lap. (Like some of the continental lacemakers prop their 
bolsters against a wall).

Anyone with a bit of knowledge about antique lacemaking equipment have any 
idea how it was used and where it might have originated?

Beth

In Cheshire, NW England




 VINTAGE LACE MAKERS STAND

 Description:

 Solid wood bottom weighted stand and pillow shelf.  Leather lace apron.
 Used for a bolster pillow,

 Size: 36 high.  Shelf 8 x 7   Apron 14 x 11.5

 I haven't heard of lacemakers wearing a leather apron, but I could be wrong
 of course, and I wouldn't have thought an 8 x 7 shelf would be big enough
 to hold a bolster pillow.

 Item number: 290234882216

 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-LACE-MAKERS-STAND_W0QQitemZ290234882216QQihZ0
19QQcategoryZ19158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 tinied: http://tinyurl.com/5l9dg4

 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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RE: [lace] Ebay item

2008-05-31 Thread Sue
I wondered if the leather apron was actually the cover for the bottom
half of the pillow because the thing that first took my eye (and ears)
was an old lady making honiton lace in a shop in Honiton itself in about
1975, I remember well going into the shop and hearing this beautiful
rhythm of bobbins hitting the leather as she worked, and her pillow had
such a covering,  so maybe?

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
 

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[lace] Ebay item

2008-05-31 Thread Laurie Waters
I wrote to the seller asking for clarification about the leather, and if he
had any pictures taken from the side to see if there is a ratchet system.  My
poor copy of Kloppel/kissen/stander is almost worn out because I use it so
much, but it doesn't illustrate something exactly like this; and no mention of
a leather cover.  It does seem to be fastened fairly permanently to the
stand.
Le Puy pillows are occasionally covered with leather; makes a nice bouncy
surface for the bobbins.
There is another 'leather and lace' item on Ebay just now; a leather pillow
advertised as Belgian - 310053688931 - would appreciate comments. I've never
seen a leather covered pillow like this before, but there are precedents for
the general form in Belgium.  I always get a little suspicious when I see
upholstery tacks so close together - might be a backfitted item. But someone
has used it to make lace.
Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ebay item

2008-05-31 Thread clayblackwell
Hi Laurie -

This is an interesting pillow!

I question whether the surface is really leather.  The way that it has slightly 
split at the corner of the roller box makes me think it it one of those 
oilcloth type covers, which were so often used in the French pillows.  

But what struck me as most interesting was the fact that apparently, at some 
point in time, the lacemaker who owned this pillow used the front part of the 
apron for a piece of straight lace (or two or seven?).  You can see the 
tell-tale pin holes going across the front of the apron.  Or is this just where 
she used the apron to make her prickings?  The pin holes are completely 
different from the design of the lace *on* the pillow, but this has apparently 
been staged, as the number of bobbins is all wrong, and they appear to have 
been tied on for effect - using two threads per bobbin (!) and knots all over 
the place!!

Still...  it's an interesting piece.

Clay

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From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I wrote to the seller asking for clarification about the leather, and if he
 had any pictures taken from the side to see if there is a ratchet system.  My
 poor copy of Kloppel/kissen/stander is almost worn out because I use it so
 much, but it doesn't illustrate something exactly like this; and no mention of
 a leather cover.  It does seem to be fastened fairly permanently to the
 stand.
 Le Puy pillows are occasionally covered with leather; makes a nice bouncy
 surface for the bobbins.
 There is another 'leather and lace' item on Ebay just now; a leather pillow
 advertised as Belgian - 310053688931 - would appreciate comments. I've never
 seen a leather covered pillow like this before, but there are precedents for
 the general form in Belgium.  I always get a little suspicious when I see
 upholstery tacks so close together - might be a backfitted item. But someone
 has used it to make lace.
 Laurie
 
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[lace] ebay bobbin lace?

2008-05-28 Thread Jenny Brandis
190224579806
Is it bobbin lace?
 
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia
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Re: [lace] ebay bobbin lace?

2008-05-28 Thread Patty Dowden

190224579806
Is it bobbin lace?

Jenny Brandis
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Most assuredly bobbin lace.  Quite a mix of techniques, large scale, 
turns corners.  I would say handmade, but I could be wrong.  The 
turned corners are what decided me.


Patty

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Re: [lace] ebay bobbin lace?

2008-05-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes it's bobbin lace - but probably not really vintage - it's the sort 
of BL made for export from Asia/China.


Brenda

On 28 May 2008, at 18:12, Patty Dowden wrote:


190224579806
Is it bobbin lace?

Jenny Brandis
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Most assuredly bobbin lace.  Quite a mix of techniques, large scale, 
turns corners.  I would say handmade, but I could be wrong.  The 
turned corners are what decided me.


Patty

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Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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[lace] eBay

2008-05-24 Thread Sister Claire
I just took my first look at eBay. Was I looking in the right place? I
followed the links: Home  Buy  Crafts  Needlecrafts  Yarn  Tatting 
Lacemaking and there wasn't really anything of interest: some ethafoam
pillows (no thanks!), tatting patterns and threads, a couple of bobbins that
seemed grossly overpriced to me...

There must be something that I'm missing!
Thanks,
Sr Claire

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Re: [lace] eBay

2008-05-24 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hello Sister Claire

When you go on ebay, you can see a menu Search Options.
Type in what you are looking for (e.g. lacemaking bobbins) and leave at 
all categories.

Go down and tick the box Worldwide - and click on show items.
You'll get a lot more results coming up then.
Ebay is making it more difficult to find what you are looking for, e.g. 
if you put an item on ebay UK
and lit it as worldwide, it does not automatically come up on all ebay 
sites.
An other alternative is to search ebay by country: e.g. ebay.co.uk - 
ebay.ie etc.


Hope this helps.
Agnes Boddington- Ellougthon UK



Sister Claire wrote:


I just took my first look at eBay. Was I looking in the right place? I
followed the links: Home  Buy  Crafts  Needlecrafts  Yarn  Tatting 
Lacemaking and there wasn't really anything of interest: some ethafoam
pillows (no thanks!), tatting patterns and threads, a couple of bobbins that
seemed grossly overpriced to me...

There must be something that I'm missing!
Thanks,
Sr Claire

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Re: [lace] eBay

2008-05-24 Thread clayblackwell
Hello Sister Claire -

Try doing a search.  Enter the words (lace, lacemaking) and see what you come 
up with.  If you use the parentheses, you'll get a search on any or all of the 
terms.  If you don't use the parentheses, you'll only find items which contain 
all of the terms.  You may want to do a search that identifies various kinds of 
lace, as in lace(Bucks, Bedfordshire, Honiton, Flanders, Duchesse).  The 
quotation marks would not be part of your search string, but the parentheses 
would be.  This will find items that are described as lace with any of the 
words within the parentheses as descriptors.

As you play around, you'll discover lots of junk that you don't want to see and 
can refine your search string so that you eliminate those things before they 
even pop up on the screen.

Clay

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 I just took my first look at eBay. Was I looking in the right place? I 
 followed the links: Home  Buy  Crafts  Needlecrafts  Yarn  Tatting  
 Lacemaking and there wasn't really anything of interest: some ethafoam 
 pillows (no thanks!), tatting patterns and threads, a couple of bobbins that 
 seemed grossly overpriced to me... 
 
 There must be something that I'm missing! 
 Thanks, 
 Sr Claire 
 
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[lace] ebay item #130215900660

2008-04-28 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I wrote to the seller of the Romanian point lace piece(s? on ebay, this is the
answer I received.


Hi sorry for being late to respond this piece is ready made it's only one set
that my aunt made. it's one piece for the centre table and 5 small pieces for
small tables


- ayazeji

If this is a set of 5 pieces, 1 large and 5 small, then the listing is rather
misleading, to my way of thinking.  And they still want rather a lot for it.

Lorri

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[lace] Ebay bidding lunacy

2008-03-20 Thread Jean Nathan
A bidding war on two Springett/Fountains/Roseground bobbins has just ended 
between two people from the USA. Each won one of the bobbins.


http://tinyurl.com/27hw6f  finished at GBP41.00 still available spangled 
from Rosegound Supplies at GBP10.25


http://tinyurl.com/2z8p3n  finished at GBP52.70 That particular one is no 
longer available, but there's a similar one currently available from 
Roseground called Maypole, also at GBP10.25


Roseground do a whole range of decorated and painted bone and other bobbins, 
just as Springetts used to do. They're still selling several of the 
Springett designs as well as many new ones.


I have no connection with Roseground, but have always been satisfied as a 
customer.


I always research before bidding on anything.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Ebay stuff and bills

2008-03-14 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
I have just put a bunch of stuff on ebay to sell...and I will be putting more 
on ebay this weekend as soon as I get more pictures taken. I am writing to you 
to let you know the stuff is there so you can go and take a look. 
  As you know things are tough moneywise in America today. I am finding it hard 
just to get my bills paid. Some of the things I am selling is hard for me to do 
like my boxed set of Lace Dragon Patterns...but I need to keep the bill 
collectors from hounding me more than I need the patterns. When things get 
better someday...I can always get more patterns. 
   The stuff on ebay is knitting, tatting, bobbinlace, shuttles, painted 
bobbins and so on. I will be listing crochet stuff and I am going to part 
with some of my Manuela size 20 in color 203 that people love...that is the 
blue, pinkish purple colorway. I have a bunch of it for I bought up all Handy 
Hands had of the thread years ago for a shawl I was making...I have decided 
that I don't need all of the thread. I will also be selling the light popular 
one too which is the yellow,pink purple and blue one too. I am planning on 
selling as much as my heart can take to part with. 
  I aplogize in advance for letting you know about all of this stuffThis is 
my way of helping my family out and that is selling some of my stuff since I 
don't have any income myself.
   My seller ID on ebay is:
fortheloveoflace
there is a bunch of stuff there...and good luck to you if you are bidding on 
any of it. I am hoping that my stuff will find new homes. If you have any 
questions about the listings please use my yahoo address and not the one that 
is attached to my ebay account. Someday, I will have to see if I can figure out 
how to change the contact email address for ebay. 
  Again I am sorry.
Sherry
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[lace] ebay thingy

2007-11-10 Thread Rosemary
Isn't it one of those tools that is used to make rugs etc., the thread going
though the hole then the tool is pushed though the backing, which is usually
sacking, and then withdrawn leaving a loop.  Quite an ornate one if it is
that, what do you think ??
   Rosemary in Portugal

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Re: [lace] ebay thingy

2007-11-10 Thread Diana Smith
I have two of the tool you mean and no they have a metal tip or point with a 
lever to grip the material to pull it through the hessian.


I'd wondered about a drop spindle but not being a spinner I have no idea how 
these things work - again maybe not!!


Diana in Northants


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Isn't it one of those tools that is used to make rugs etc., the thread 
going
though the hole then the tool is pushed though the backing, which is 
usually

sacking, and then withdrawn leaving a loop.  Quite an ornate one if it is
that, what do you think ??
  Rosemary in Portugal

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[lace] Ebay Item

2007-10-27 Thread Dee Palin
Does anyone know what this is for?  It looks old and interesting, but I am not
sure it is anything to do with lacemaking.

Item no. 140172227937

Dee Palin
Warwickshire

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Re: [lace] Ebay Item

2007-10-27 Thread Jenny Brandis
I am wondering if it is a old fashioned swift?  Wind the thread 
around it straight from the spinning wheel, tie off and lift upwards 
to have a hank of thread? Reverse the process when you want to wind 
the thread off the hank onto bobbins. Just an idea.


Jenny B
Kununurra, Western Australia

At 07:01 PM 27/10/2007, Dee Palin wrote:

Does anyone know what this is for?  It looks old and interesting, but I am not
sure it is anything to do with lacemaking.

Item no. 140172227937

Dee Palin
Warwickshire



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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-05 Thread sof

Hello,

Yes, I know exactly what it is but it's difficult for me to explain.
It's an mushroom iron or egg iron.
It use to iron small pieces of women hat in 19 century in France.
This one is in smelting (?). It can be electric too

Here:
http://www.dentellieres.com/Reportage/R2003/Tours/tours3.htm

On left picture you can see the iron. On back picture you can see women 
hat, the women use the fer à coque to iron them.


Look :
http://www.mot.be/cgi-bin/ID-DOC.cgi?language=enmode=Idata=0649%3C-%3Edv1466lw.jpg%3C-%3Edv1466.jpg%3C-%3Epaddestoelstrijkijzer%3C-%3Efer%20%E0%20balloner%3C-%3Emushroom%20iron
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=RETROUVERFIELD_98=UTILVALUE_98=entretien%20du%20linge%20NUMBER=12GRP=0REQ=%28%28entretien%20du%20linge%29%20%3aUTIL%20%29USRNAME=nobodyUSRPWD=4%24%2534PSPEC=1SYN=1IMLY=MAX1=1MAX2=250MAX3=250DOM=All

Dentellez bien
Sof in France with a automn weather

Laurie Waters a écrit :

Does anyone have an idea what this might be? The listing says fer a coque de
dentelliere. Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-05 Thread sof

Hi Ilske,
For big collars (fraise in French = strawberry!)the iron you use is like 
scissors or (as ther is on the picture) you use straw (metallic or 
bulrush ?). The egg iron is more near the back of the women hat where 
she put her chignon to make round.

Sof


Ilske Thomsen a écrit :

Sof,
It could be that I undestand now. It is to make the small plaits in 
German Plissee into textile. On the pictures into parts of the bonnets. 
this big collars coming from Spain during the time of Philip II were 
made like this too. Is it so?

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-05 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Sof,
It could be that I undestand now. It is to make the small plaits in 
German Plissee into textile. On the pictures into parts of the bonnets. 
this big collars coming from Spain during the time of Philip II were 
made like this too. Is it so?

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-05 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Thank you Sof,
for the explanation.
Ilske

Am 5. Jul 2007 um 09:51 schrieb sof:


Hi Ilske,
For big collars (fraise in French = strawberry!)the iron you use is 
like scissors or (as ther is on the picture) you use straw (metallic 
or bulrush ?). The egg iron is more near the back of the women hat 
where she put her chignon to make round.

Sof


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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-05 Thread Beth Stoll
I believe it is an iron for pressing frills.  It looks very much like the
puff iron I used when I was smocking.  See
http://store.marthapullen.com/?page=shop/flypageproduct_id=721category_id=14for
a contemporary electric version.

Beth Stoll in Albuquerque

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[lace] Ebay item 270139922469

2007-07-04 Thread Laurie Waters
Does anyone have an idea what this might be? The listing says fer a coque de
dentelliere. Thanks,
Laurie

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[lace] ebay books

2007-07-02 Thread Laurie Waters
FYI, and I apologize for this, but just wanted people to know that I've got
two more listings of lace books that I'm selling from my collection on Ebay
(check on lswaters).  Won't be selling any more until at least next year,
after my exhibition ends in February.
Thanks,
Laurie

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RE: [lace] eBay yet again!

2007-05-07 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Not only unbelievable, Jean, but the seller has it listed twice - same
picture, same price
Noelene in Cooma

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 Yes well, the holder is vintage, antique, new, old-looking, period, modern
 . any more adjectives you can pluck out of the dictionary?
 
 And as for the beads around the bobbins - a good example of how to wreck
and
 completely devalue vintage (a couple might be justified in being called
 antique but I wouldn't like to say) bobbins. Some of the spangles are old
 and original, others modern.
 
 Unbelievable.
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] eBay yet again!!

2007-05-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The bobbin in the centre of the picture was made by Archibald Abbot - I 
have a couple the same, bottom of his range, identified by Christine 
Springett.  Mine don't have the green seed beads added though!


Brenda

On 7 May 2007, at 22:29, Diana Smith wrote:

I really don't know what to think of these items. Item number 
130110911474


Bobbins on a (and I quote) VINTAGE ANTIQUE REPRODUCTION holder?
Judging by the spangles some of the bobbins are probably oldish but 
the beading is obviously more recent. Yours Madam - for just $175!!!


Diana in Northants
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Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] eBay yet again!!

2007-05-07 Thread David in Ballarat

At 07:29 AM 8/05/2007, Diana Smith wrote:

I really don't know what to think of these items. Item number 130110911474
Bobbins on a (and I quote) VINTAGE ANTIQUE REPRODUCTION holder?
Judging by the spangles some of the bobbins are probably oldish but 
the beading is obviously more recent. Yours Madam - for just $175!!!


Oh dear me no - that little holder would go nowhere towards making a 
decent piece of Chantilly :)

David in Ballarat



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[lace] Ebay descriptions

2007-04-26 Thread Jean Nathan
Wonder why some sellers list a few lacemaking bits as Partial lacemaking 
kit, rather than e.g. bobbins, wire, beads and books. It's not much of a 
kit with the pillow, pins and pricker missing, not to mention a pattern and 
some thread.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Ebay descriptions

2007-04-26 Thread Kathleen Henry

Dear Jean,
Its 7 characters longer for the title to list everything. MIght not fit. 
Reference to kit tempts the bidders to open the auction.
They don't claim to be a complete kit, so it is still accurate. If the 
listers can think up a more appropriate way to title the objects, write to 
the seller. We definitely want more lacemakers. We want lace tool sellers to 
be happy and do it again.

:))Kate Henry

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Wonder why some sellers list a few lacemaking bits as Partial lacemaking
kit, rather than e.g. bobbins, wire, beads and books. It's not much of a
kit with the pillow, pins and pricker missing, not to mention a pattern and
some thread.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] ebay item

2006-10-11 Thread Diana Smith

Here's another strange pair of 'bobbins' on eBay - item number 230037008494.
Any ideas as to what these were used for?

Diana in a wet and miserable Northamptonshire 


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[lace] Ebay

2006-10-11 Thread Daphne Martin
Hello Everyone
 I would just like to advise anyone buying patterns on Ebay
to be wary of a seller called Sandie 8246.
I`ve just bought a copy of Christine Springetts Torchon Lace collar. On
screen it is the original.
It arrived today and is a photocopy which I think has been reduced. The
picture  of it certainly has.
Plus I had to chase her to get it posted several times.
For this I paid .50p for the pattern and .65p for the postage.
Thank goodness it wasn`t more.
Some people eh??
Daphne Sunny chilly Norfolk

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Re: [lace] ebay item

2006-10-11 Thread Alice Howell
Just because they are long and skinny doesn't make
them bobbins. G  They are markers of some kind.  It
looks like each cube has X 1 2 / on the sides, and
each one gets turned to mark or record a series of
actions/stitches/threads/  But..What?

It's probably some manufacturing machine marker.  One
end fits over a rod, and the other slides in a slot.
Anyone familiar with lace machine parts?

Alice in Oregon -- sunny days, cool nights, and my
walnuts are falling.



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 Here's another strange pair of 'bobbins' on eBay -
 item number 230037008494.
 Any ideas as to what these were used for?
 
 Diana in a wet and miserable Northamptonshire 
 

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RE: [lace] ebay item

2006-10-11 Thread Elizabeth Pass
Someone has already contacted the seller with this suggestion.  I think I
agree.

Dear Seller. I am a lace maker but the tools concerned have nothing to do
with 
the craft.  My Father used to use something like that for filling in the
old 
fashioned type of football pools(12X meant home win,away win or draw)back
in 
1950. 

But the seller doesn't agree.


Thank you for taking the time to email me. I will add this information at
the 
bottom of the listing. The tools look too old to be pools counters so If
anyone 
else can help with the mystery I would love to know more! Thank you.

Liz Pass
(in Poole where the sun has just decided to shime after a day of rain)

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