[leaf-user] LEAF Printing

2002-12-10 Thread John Mullan
I'm sure this topic has been covered to one degree or another, but here
it goes:

Is there a LEAF package available to allow me to connect up my inkejet
printer to the router for shared printing across my Windoz network?

Thanks in advance.

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RE: [leaf-user] Cable Connections

2002-12-10 Thread John Mullan
Far from being an expert, I'm going to say 'no' right off the bat.  An
educated guess would say that, yes, you could take the cable signal,
connect to a modem and then to your box.  But you would have to separate
the 'sub-low' from the rest of the cable signals, re-inject them back
onto a common wire and then it gets messy.  You would have to make some
arrangement where you have a separate wire to each household from your
central location.  If there is equipment ready to do this, it would
probably be of prohibitive cost.

If it is a condo/apartment complex, better to run CAT5 to each residence
and use an ethernet switch.

Am I in left field here?

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Hey,

I have a possible client that's building a housing development  is
providing cable service to all of the houses...  I'm guessing the answer
to
my question is going to be no, but considering my knowledge of cable I
figured I'd ask anyways...

Is there a way to set up a leaf box at the central location from where
the
cable service is being provided to the houses?  I'm guessing this would
entail converting the cable internet so the firewall could deal with it

then converting it back to cable before sending it out to individual
houses.

I've been using Bering, but if there's already support for doing this in
another distro I'm willing to learn :)

Patrick




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RE: [leaf-user] Cable Connections

2002-12-10 Thread S Mohan

There must be some place where the provider converts to ethernet to connect
to the Internet. Atleast before the router. Why not plug this in at that
point? Am I missing something trivial here?

Mohan
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Far from being an expert, I'm going to say 'no' right off the bat.  An
educated guess would say that, yes, you could take the cable signal,
connect to a modem and then to your box.  But you would have to separate
the 'sub-low' from the rest of the cable signals, re-inject them back
onto a common wire and then it gets messy.  You would have to make some
arrangement where you have a separate wire to each household from your
central location.  If there is equipment ready to do this, it would
probably be of prohibitive cost.

If it is a condo/apartment complex, better to run CAT5 to each residence
and use an ethernet switch.

Am I in left field here?

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Subject: [leaf-user] Cable Connections


Hey,

I have a possible client that's building a housing development  is
providing cable service to all of the houses...  I'm guessing the answer
to
my question is going to be no, but considering my knowledge of cable I
figured I'd ask anyways...

Is there a way to set up a leaf box at the central location from where
the
cable service is being provided to the houses?  I'm guessing this would
entail converting the cable internet so the firewall could deal with it

then converting it back to cable before sending it out to individual
houses.

I've been using Bering, but if there's already support for doing this in
another distro I'm willing to learn :)

Patrick




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Re: [leaf-user] LEAF Printing

2002-12-10 Thread Julian Church
At 06:03 10/12/02 -0500, John Mullan wrote:

I'm sure this topic has been covered to one degree or another, but here
it goes:

Is there a LEAF package available to allow me to connect up my inkejet
printer to the router for shared printing across my Windoz network?


You have two options afaik.  The p9100.lrp package, or a suitable version 
of samba packaged for LEAF.  Personally I think I'd prefer the samba-based 
solution but I had trouble getting it to work at the time.  The p9100 
method was so much easier and I had to get things going in a rush.

I followed the instructions on using the p9100 package found at 
http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/cmu/dachlpd.htm

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RE: [leaf-user] Cable Connections

2002-12-10 Thread John Mullan

OK.  I could be misinterpreting.  I was under the assumption that the
builder is buying cable service from a provider (wholesale) then supplying
his development.

If he is playing the whole cable provider scenario, starting with the whole
'head end', then it probably gets a little more simple.  Still a bit of a
cost associated with being the head-end.  I would imagine that using LEAF
router to interface between backbone and higher-speed cable modem
(1000mbps?) to keep up with the 'subscribers' cable modems makes sense to
me.  If, however, he IS buying cable signal from another supplier, he would
have to make some sort of arrangement to integrate with their internet
service, or block the sub-low band (where the data is) and supply his own.

OK.  I'm rambling about something I am not totally familiar with and
haven't really investigated..

:-)

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There must be some place where the provider converts to ethernet to connect
to the Internet. Atleast before the router. Why not plug this in at that
point? Am I missing something trivial here?

Mohan
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Far from being an expert, I'm going to say 'no' right off the bat.  An
educated guess would say that, yes, you could take the cable signal,
connect to a modem and then to your box.  But you would have to separate
the 'sub-low' from the rest of the cable signals, re-inject them back
onto a common wire and then it gets messy.  You would have to make some
arrangement where you have a separate wire to each household from your
central location.  If there is equipment ready to do this, it would
probably be of prohibitive cost.

If it is a condo/apartment complex, better to run CAT5 to each residence
and use an ethernet switch.

Am I in left field here?

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Subject: [leaf-user] Cable Connections


Hey,

I have a possible client that's building a housing development  is
providing cable service to all of the houses...  I'm guessing the answer
to
my question is going to be no, but considering my knowledge of cable I
figured I'd ask anyways...

Is there a way to set up a leaf box at the central location from where
the
cable service is being provided to the houses?  I'm guessing this would
entail converting the cable internet so the firewall could deal with it

then converting it back to cable before sending it out to individual
houses.

I've been using Bering, but if there's already support for doing this in
another distro I'm willing to learn :)

Patrick




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RE: [leaf-user] Dachstein firewall monitor

2002-12-10 Thread Doug Sampson
Sheesh, it *was* an issue with my browser! I run Opera and recently replaced
my PC with a faster one. Needless to say, I neglected to install Java at the
time I reinstalled Opera. Pure stupidity on my part!

Thanks to all who replied.

~Doug

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 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Dachstein firewall monitor
 
 
 Wrigglesworth, Colin wrote:
  Do you really mean it was working now has stopped? I 
 haven't seen it work
  yet on my Dachstein CD 1.0.2 so would be interested to know 
 if you have had
  it working. I thought my problem was Java related but maybe not.
 
 well, I've seen it working on plenty of Dachtstein boxes (and the odd 
 Matterhorn box as well) - so as far as I can tell, it _does_ 
 work. And I 
 guess Charles would have removed it from Dachstein, if it 
 didn't work at 
 all.
 
 Since Weblet ran out of the box on the images I tried, I 
 tend to agree 
 with you that it indeed is a Java related problem on your 
 browser - but 
 lacking any info what it is (or isn't) doing, I could only 
 speculate on 
 what's happening.
 
 The short version is, if the applet loads, but displayes No 
 data, it's 
 likely a problem with your setup on Dachstein (the most common being 
 settings in hosts.allow/hosts.deny and the firewall settings - check 
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/hejl/troubleshooting.html for more 
 info about troubleshooting that part).
 
 If you don't even see the applet starting (but rather a some message 
 about getting a plugin, or simply a gray window), it's likely 
 an issue 
 with the browser. The easiest to check that would be to go to a page 
 that loads a java applet (for example, on
 http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/applet/overview/compon
entMethods.html
  - there should be a small applet near the bottom of the page)
and see if it works there (if it does but the status monitor of weblet 
still doesn't work, please let me know - you might be the first to come 
across a new bug...)

I hope that helps.

Martin




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Re: [leaf-user] Cable Connections

2002-12-10 Thread Ray Olszewski
I think others have mostly answered this one, but your follow-up suggests 
there may be a gap in the details.

If the client is actually *providing* cable service himself (and not just 
running the wire to distribute some cable company's feed around the 
development), then he has to have something at the headend (the central 
location you refer to) that puts all the signals ... the local broadcast 
TV channels, satellite feeds, whatever he is providing ... on *his* cable. 
If that equipment provides a way to add an IP-baed feed to the mix, then 
that equipment handles the hardware requirements on the distribution side. 
It simply needs to accept the IP traffic from some sort of interface that 
the LEAF router knows about (most likely something that can connect to an 
Ethernet interface).

To sell (or give away) Internet service, he has to get it from somewhere. 
It will come in as a cable feed, or a DSL line, or a DS-1 line, or whatever 
he buys. That incoming service will need an interface, either one that 
converts it to Ethernet (e.g., a cable modem) or one on the LEAF router 
that handles that type of connection (e.g., a Sangoma card).

If those requirements are met, then a LEAF router should serve him well; 
just make sure you scale the hardware right for the expected traffic 
levels. The converting it issues are just hardware issues, and if you can 
make the connections to an i86 box, then LEAF should be able to handle it.

OTOH, if he is just resistributing someone else's cable feed to the 
development, then what you want to do is a bit trickier, probably not 
doable without the cooperation of the provider. If this is the situation, 
give us more details.

At 01:42 AM 12/10/02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey,

I have a possible client that's building a housing development  is
providing cable service to all of the houses...  I'm guessing the answer to
my question is going to be no, but considering my knowledge of cable I
figured I'd ask anyways...

Is there a way to set up a leaf box at the central location from where the
cable service is being provided to the houses?  I'm guessing this would
entail converting the cable internet so the firewall could deal with it 
then converting it back to cable before sending it out to individual houses.

I've been using Bering, but if there's already support for doing this in
another distro I'm willing to learn :)





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[leaf-user] Prism2_usb Kernel Panics - WISP

2002-12-10 Thread Derek Jennings
I am getting so close to getting this thing work I can smell it.

With WISP-2397  I can load the prism2_usb and p80211 modules (from Bering 1.0) 
and using a configuration script from the wlan-ng site I can start and stop 
the usb wireless adapter. 
The usb adapter syncs up with the access point, and I can view stats from the 
adapter. However as soon as I set a *correct* wireless encryption key, the 
first byte of actual data over the link causes a kernel panic.

If anyone has managed to get a Prism2 USB adapter working I'd love to learn 
the trick.

derek


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Re: [leaf-user] dhclient to dchp server handshaking

2002-12-10 Thread Erich Titl
John

I had to wait for my cable modem to forget the mac address of my interface 
to reply... ;-) too lazy to reset the bugger.

I am not completely convinced by your reasoning. I can believe there is 
something fishy with the DHCP server but apparently some drivers handle it 
better than others.

I have a cable modem which connects to a switch to which I connect 2 Bering 
1_0rc3 boxes, one is my real firewall, a notebook with a xircom and a 
d-link pcmcia card, the other a plain vanilla desktop with 2 OEM ne2k-pci 
cards.

The notebook shows exactly the same symptoms as the one show below whereas 
the desktop does not. The error message is generated by the dhclient 
program which notices a difference between the lenght in the packet header 
and the actual length of the packet returned from the driver. Here is the 
responsible code from packet.c

  /* Check the IP packet length. */
  if (ntohs (ip - ip_len) != buflen) {
  if ((ntohs (ip - ip_len + 2)  ~1) == buflen)
  ignore = 1;
  else
  log_debug (ip length %d disagrees with bytes received %d.,
 ntohs (ip - ip_len), buflen);
  }

So this is where the error gets loggged, the buflen parameter gets passed 
from the calling routine and apparently it does neither match the value of 
the lenght field in the ip header nor the next multiple of 2, (obviously, 
it is always 4 bytes longer) This apparently does not happen with all 
drivers/hardware. so your test is IMHO not completely conclusive because 
the only system which exposes the error is also the only system using a 
3c900 NIC according to your description

I believe we have to refer to the driver gurus to get further in this matter.

Here is the lsmod of my affected system:

# lsmod
Module PagesUsed by
ipsec 133360   2
pcnet_cs   12496   1
xirc2ps_cs 13928   1
ds  6388   2 [pcnet_cs xirc2ps_cs]
i82365 22180   2
pcmcia_core41056   0 [pcnet_cs xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]
ip_nat_irc  2384   0 (unused)
ip_nat_ftp  2960   0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_irc3056   1
ip_conntrack_ftp3824   1
83905780   0 [pcnet_cs]
ide-probe-mod   7496   0
ide-disk6544   0
ide-mod50888   0 [ide-probe-mod ide-disk]


and here the one that does not complain:

# lsmod
Module PagesUsed by
ip_nat_irc  2384   0 (unused)
ip_nat_ftp  2960   0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_irc3056   1
ip_conntrack_ftp3824   1
ne2k-pci4556   2
83905780   0 [ne2k-pci]
isofs  16972   0
ide-probe-mod   7496   0
ide-cd 26312   0
ide-disk6544   0
ide-mod50888   0 [ide-probe-mod ide-cd ide-disk]
cdrom  26752   0 [ide-cd]


Cheers

Erich

At 16:32 04.12.2002, John Wittenberg wrote:


Based on the above snapshots, it looks like the DHCP server used by my 
cablemodem ISP may be the culprit causing the dhclient error messages.  As 
a recap, I was getting the same dhclient error using both a 3c509 
(3c509.o) and a pci Linkys (ne.o).  So this seems to point to the DHCP 
server used by my ISP as the problem.  Since I don't have a Linux system 
where I can build different versions of the RTL8139 driver or other 
drivers and don't have a RTL8139 card, I can't try the RTL8139 type NICs 
or try to fix the other drivers.

So I guess the end result is that I'll have to live with the dhclient 
error in hopes that its doesn't cause too much of a problem and hope that 
my ISP eventually fixes the problem on their end.

This has been quite an interesting exercise.

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Re: [leaf-user] Problem with wavelan2_cs driver in Bering

2002-12-10 Thread Samuel Abreu
Ok, it seems to load ISA-PCMCIA ok, show the card information in dmesg, and 
just looks like ok!

Here are what u ask:
# cat /proc/bus/pccard/00/info
type:   Vadem VG-469
psock:  0

I try to load modules in the reverse order, if i don't do this it will not 
load,
the order:
insmod hermes
insmod orinoco
insmod orinoco_cs

And in the logs show:
hermes.c: 16 Jan 2002 David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
orinoco.c 0.09b (David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
orinoco_cs.c 0.09b (David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)

And done, don't show nothing more, the iwconfig can't find any interface, 
and the leds of the wireless card don't turn on!

My big problem with the orinoco_cs card is, it don't tell me nothing, the 
modules are loading ok, but the interface don't exist! =((

Thanks for the help!

Samuel Abreu


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If you can be more precise about what you are trying and how things
are failing, we might be able to help.  Also, this doc:

  http://leaf-project.org/devel/jnilo/buwireless.html

has good step-by-step instructions for using the pcmcia_orinoco.lrp
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[leaf-user] prompt

2002-12-10 Thread Brian Henning
hello,

could someone tell me how to change the prompt in dachstein leaf? 
i tried editing /etc/profile:

export PS1=`echo -n -e \n$HOSTNAME: $USER- `

but that didn't do the trick.

thanks,

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Re: [leaf-user] Problem with wavelan2_cs driver in Bering

2002-12-10 Thread Samuel Abreu
Hi again, i get more deep in Bering, and playing with /etc/init.d/pcmcia 
stops and starts, i find more things useful!

Some how, when the /etc/init.d/pcmcia is started, it load the modules 
necessary to load ISA-PCMCIA card, and then try to load module for orinoco, 
but the module wavelan2_cs, then i rename the file 
/etc/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.conf to something else (wavebackup), and started 
pcmcia, and this time it try load orinoco_cs, but return some unresolved 
symbols, cos it don't load modules hermes and orinoco first, so i edit 
/etc/init.d/pcmcia and add the lines:
/sbin/insmod hermes
/sbin/insmod orinoco

So, when i start pcmcia, it loads the module correct, but returns me the 
error:
eth0: failed to reset hardware (err = -19)
orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed

and then in /var/log/daemon.log, in the last line, say:
cardmgr[]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Operation not suported by 
device!

And is not in one computer, is in two, with ISAPCMCIA cards diferent! =(

Anyone have a idea of why is not working??

Thanks

Samuel Abreu


Ok, it seems to load ISA-PCMCIA ok, show the card information in dmesg, and 
just looks like ok!

Here are what u ask:
# cat /proc/bus/pccard/00/info
type:   Vadem VG-469
psock:  0

I try to load modules in the reverse order, if i don't do this it will not 
load,
the order:
insmod hermes
insmod orinoco
insmod orinoco_cs



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Re: [leaf-user] prompt

2002-12-10 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Brian Henning wrote:

 hello,
 
 could someone tell me how to change the prompt in dachstein leaf? 
 i tried editing /etc/profile:
 
 export PS1=`echo -n -e \n$HOSTNAME: $USER- `
 
 but that didn't do the trick.

Do what trick? Please be more specific as to what you did, and what you
expected to be the result.

Did you log out and log back in again? That statement is only executed
during login.

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RE: [leaf-user] prompt

2002-12-10 Thread S Mohan
Has been given by Charles in the FAQ/doc section.

In /root/.profile, put the following code:

cdp()
{
cd $@
export PS1=`echo -n -e \n$HOSTNAME: -$USER-$PWD`
}
alias cd=cdp

Thus for every cd, the new directory is also shown in the prompt.

I guess this is what you are looking for given that except for PWD,
everything else is static for the session.

Mohan

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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Brian Henning wrote:

 hello,
 
 could someone tell me how to change the prompt in dachstein leaf?
 i tried editing /etc/profile:
 
 export PS1=`echo -n -e \n$HOSTNAME: $USER- `
 
 but that didn't do the trick.

Do what trick? Please be more specific as to what you did, and what you
expected to be the result.

Did you log out and log back in again? That statement is only executed
during login.


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Re: [leaf-user] prompt

2002-12-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
S Mohan wrote:

Has been given by Charles in the FAQ/doc section.

In /root/.profile, put the following code:

cdp()
	{
	cd $@
	export PS1=`echo -n -e \n$HOSTNAME: -$USER-$PWD`
	}
alias cd=cdp

Thus for every cd, the new directory is also shown in the prompt.

I guess this is what you are looking for given that except for PWD,
everything else is static for the session.


The technique of creating an alias for the cd command is only required 
to mimic the behavior of bash, which allows dynamic expansion of the 
prompt for things like current directory.

To change the basic Dachstein prompt, it should be enough to edit the 
.profile file in /root/.  Note that in Dachstein, root has a .profile 
file that assigns PS1, which will override global changes made in 
/etc/profile (which may be part of why you're having problems), so if 
you want to make changes that affect *ALL* users, you'll have to edit 
/etc/profile as well as /root/.profile

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Re: [leaf-user] Cable Connections

2002-12-10 Thread webdude
Thanks for the answers so far on this issue.  Although it leaves me with
questions to ask the developer rather than my friend doing some of the
construction work :)

Basically the information I've gotten so far is from a friend of mine who
got a contract to do all the porches in this development.  Currently there's
only 1 house in the area  it's for the guy who will be managing the whole
housing development.  As far as I know, nothing else will be bulit until at
least next spring.  The plan is a higher end housing development, the
pricing for the land itself is definately on the high end, but the people
coming in from East  West Coast aren't blinking an eye at the figures for
just the land.  Unfortunately this tosses out the idea of the easy way of
simply running CAT5 cable through an apartment complex (I've thought of
doing this before also).  Another idea I thought of was to set up wireless
access points throughout, but that can get messy and/or complicated...
however a possible idea considering it's a new toy :)

As to the questions of whether he is providing the cable service or simply
forwarding someone elses I don't know.  More than likely either way he will
be getting the cable service from Comcast (I'm not sure if Roadrunner is in
that part of town or not).  If anyone has any knowledge of either of these 
how easy they are to deal with, please let me know.

The guaranteed way to solve this is to simply dump a leaf box in each house
built which might be the better way as Jim might want to set up a Quake
server, but Bob doesn't want anyone even trying to connect to his computers.
Either way I'm wondering if anyone has found a good place to get the
necessary hardware?  I was sort of hoping to find a small case just large
enough to fit the hardware inside.  Someone suggested I look at the
shuttles, but those seem to much of a powerhouse and cash output just for a
leaf box (or 20).

At this point its all talk, but I'm interested in answers so I can pull this
off :)

Btw, is there a LEAF advocacy group or anything?  I keep getting luser
responses such as 'I don't have any info on my computer worth stealing, why
do I need a firewall?'  Not to mention I might have a media outlet... my
neighbor is a news editor for one of the local news stations (can't remember
whether it's fox, nbc, or what).

Patrick




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