Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-17 Thread Scott Merrill 
More in the saga of wireless network connectivity.  =)

Someone mailed me off-list to report that they had enjoyed success with their 
Orinoco card using the 8.10 firmware revision.  So I downgraded the firmware 
in both of my cards.  Again, everything appears to work at first.  Now, 
however, the LEAF/Bering box bombs out after as little as five minutes of no 
activity on the wireless segment.  Doing 'iwconfig' on the LEAF/Bering 
console produces the same results as before:

 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
 eth2IEEE 802.11-DS  Nickname:firewall
 Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:42.9497GHz  Tx-Power=15 dBm
 RTS thr:off
 Encryption key:off


'/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart' or ejecting and re-instering the card fixed the 
problem, until the next period of inactivity.

I switched cards, putting the LEAF/Bering card into my laptop, and vice versa; 
but the problem remained -- a moderate period of inactivity caused the system 
to think that the card was no longer there.

The laptop does not produce these error messages, so I'm fairly confident that 
the problem is isolated to the LEAF/Bering box.  This could mean that I've 
got a screwy configuration somehow, or that I've got a hardware problem (most 
likely a flakey ISA-to-PCMCIA adapter?).

I'm going to build a new LEAF/Bering floppy from scratch -- following the 
Wireless section of the User's Guide to a tee from the beginning -- and see 
if that fixes me up.

I'd love to hear from Orinoco users which firmware versions you've had success 
and failure with.  It sounds like Matt Schalit is enjoying 7.28, while Brock 
Nanson and the person who sent me a private message are enjoying 8.10.


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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-17 Thread Brad Fritz 

Scott,

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:34:24 EST Scott wrote:

 More in the saga of wireless network connectivity.  =)
 
 Someone mailed me off-list to report that they had enjoyed success with their 
 Orinoco card using the 8.10 firmware revision.

I have also had success with firmware 8.10 (and 6.16) and
Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Silver cards using both the 0.09b and 0.11b
orinoco_cs drivers with a Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA adpater
running in IEEE Ad-Hoc mode.  Actually, let me qualify that:
I have had success as long as I don't add a prism2 peer to the
network.  When I do I get a lot of Tx errors and resets on the
orinoco end.

 So I downgraded the firmware 
 in both of my cards.  Again, everything appears to work at first.  Now, 
 however, the LEAF/Bering box bombs out after as little as five minutes of no 
 activity on the wireless segment.  Doing 'iwconfig' on the LEAF/Bering 
 console produces the same results as before:
 
  hermes @ IO 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion.
[..]

Never seen those error messages before.  Something is defintely wrong,
but I'm not sure what.  You might get better help on the orinoco-user
list:  
  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=orinoco-users

or in the samba wireless archives:
  http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/


  eth2IEEE 802.11-DS  Nickname:firewall
  Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:42.9497GHz  Tx-Power=15 dBm

Huh?  42.9 GHz!!  It should be in the 2.4 GHz range.


 '/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart' or ejecting and re-instering the card fixed the 
 problem, until the next period of inactivity.
 
 I switched cards, putting the LEAF/Bering card into my laptop, and vice versa; 
 but the problem remained -- a moderate period of inactivity caused the system 
 to think that the card was no longer there.

Which version of orinoco_cs does the Bering system use?  Does the
notebook use orinoco_cs drivers?  (Note:  you could also try the
wavelan2_cs binary driver from Lucent.)


 The laptop does not produce these error messages, so I'm fairly confident that 
 the problem is isolated to the LEAF/Bering box.  This could mean that I've 
 got a screwy configuration somehow, or that I've got a hardware problem (most 
 likely a flakey ISA-to-PCMCIA adapter?).

What make and model is the ISA-to-PCMCIA bridge?

 
 I'm going to build a new LEAF/Bering floppy from scratch -- following the 
 Wireless section of the User's Guide to a tee from the beginning -- and see 
 if that fixes me up.

You may also want to try the 2.4.20 version of the kernel,
pcmcia_orinoco.lrp, and modules.lrp since that will get you up
to the 0.11b version of orinoco_cs.

--Brad
 



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-17 Thread Scott Merrill 
On Friday 17 January 2003 10:16 am, you wrote:
 Never seen those error messages before.  Something is defintely wrong,
 but I'm not sure what.  You might get better help on the orinoco-user
 list:
   http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=orinoco-users

 or in the samba wireless archives:
   http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/

That's my next stop.

  I switched cards, putting the LEAF/Bering card into my laptop, and vice
  versa; but the problem remained -- a moderate period of inactivity caused
  the system to think that the card was no longer there.

 Which version of orinoco_cs does the Bering system use?  Does the
 notebook use orinoco_cs drivers?  (Note:  you could also try the
 wavelan2_cs binary driver from Lucent.)

I'm not sure what module version LEAF/Bering uses in the pcmcia_orinoco.lrp 
package.
The laptop is using orinoco_cs, from Debian's woody pcmcia-cs package.

  The laptop does not produce these error messages, so I'm fairly confident
  that the problem is isolated to the LEAF/Bering box.  This could mean
  that I've got a screwy configuration somehow, or that I've got a hardware
  problem (most likely a flakey ISA-to-PCMCIA adapter?).

 What make and model is the ISA-to-PCMCIA bridge?

Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA, just like the one you report success with.

 You may also want to try the 2.4.20 version of the kernel,
 pcmcia_orinoco.lrp, and modules.lrp since that will get you up
 to the 0.11b version of orinoco_cs.

If that'll fix it, so be it.  But Matt Schalit's recent explanation of the 
hoops to jump through in order to enjoy 2.4.20 gives me the willies!  =)


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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-17 Thread Brad Fritz 

Scott,

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:25:36 EST Scott Merrill wrote:

 On Friday 17 January 2003 10:16 am, you wrote:
  Never seen those error messages before.  Something is defintely wrong,
  but I'm not sure what.  You might get better help on the orinoco-user
  list:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=orinoco-users
 
  or in the samba wireless archives:
http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
 That's my next stop.

David Gibson, the orinoco_cs author, participates regularly on
orinoco-users, so you're likely to get good help there.  There
is also a recent thread 

  http://sf.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1517538forum_id=11432

that references the same error message you reported.


   I switched cards, putting the LEAF/Bering card into my laptop, and vice
   versa; but the problem remained -- a moderate period of inactivity caused
   the system to think that the card was no longer there.
 
  Which version of orinoco_cs does the Bering system use?  Does the
  notebook use orinoco_cs drivers?  (Note:  you could also try the
  wavelan2_cs binary driver from Lucent.)
 
 I'm not sure what module version LEAF/Bering uses in the pcmcia_orinoco.lrp 
 package.
 The laptop is using orinoco_cs, from Debian's woody pcmcia-cs package.

Look in /var/log/kern.log after a pcmcia restart.  When the drivers
are insmodded they spit out a bunch of debugging info, including the
driver version.  (If you post to orinoco-users you'll want to include
those log messages.)  Most likely you have 0.09b on Bering and 0.11b
on woody.  That is a combo that worked for me for several months with
firmware 8.10 in the debian (sarge) card and 6.16 on the Bering card.
 

   The laptop does not produce these error messages, so I'm fairly confident
   that the problem is isolated to the LEAF/Bering box.  This could mean
   that I've got a screwy configuration somehow, or that I've got a hardware
   problem (most likely a flakey ISA-to-PCMCIA adapter?).
 
  What make and model is the ISA-to-PCMCIA bridge?
 
 Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA, just like the one you report success with.

Did you have to add

  PCIC_OPTS=i365_base=0x3e2

to /etc/default/pcmcia like I did?  Since your setup is so similar to
mine, I will send you copies of my config files and startup messages
offlist so you can use them for reference.


  You may also want to try the 2.4.20 version of the kernel,
  pcmcia_orinoco.lrp, and modules.lrp since that will get you up
  to the 0.11b version of orinoco_cs.
 
 If that'll fix it, so be it.  But Matt Schalit's recent explanation of the 
 hoops to jump through in order to enjoy 2.4.20 gives me the willies!  =)

IIRC, Matt built his from scratch, but that's not really necessary.
Just grab the kernel (linux-2.4.20.upx), pcmcia_orinoco.lrp and
modules.lrp from

  http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/contrib/2.4.20/

and use them instead of the versions in the 1.0-stable image.  You will
need to rename linux-2.4.20.upx to linux and pcmcia_orinoco.lrp
to pcmcia.lrp.  You _may_ also need the wireless.lrp and iptables.lrp
packages from that directory, but I'm not positive.  Then use modules
from

  http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/modules/2.4.20/

Just a thought...it's certainly easier than compiling your own kernel
and pcmcia modules to upgrade orinoco_cs. :)  And you'll probably
get better support on orinoco-users if you're using a newer driver
version.

--Brad



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-17 Thread Matt Schalit 

Brad Fritz wrote:


IIRC, Matt built his from scratch, but that's not really necessary.
Just grab the kernel (linux-2.4.20.upx), pcmcia_orinoco.lrp and
modules.lrp from

  http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/contrib/2.4.20/

   http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/modules/2.4.20/

 --Brad


To be clear, I built mine entirely from .lrps available above,
following the guides 98% to the letter.  I didn't compile anything.

I'll tear through a mini-HOWTO later today.

The two big diffs were 1) cardmgr asked for wavlan2_cs rather
than orinoco_cs and 2) adding rw to syslinux.cfg for 2.4.20.

Caveat I don't have a laptop to test w/today :-/

Matt



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless and wavelan2_cs.conf

2003-01-17 Thread Brad Fritz 

Matt,

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:54:47 PST Matt Schalit wrote:

 Brad Fritz wrote:
 
  IIRC, Matt built his from scratch, but that's not really necessary.
 
 To be clear, I built mine entirely from .lrps available above,
 following the guides 98% to the letter.  I didn't compile anything.

That's what I meant, but I didn't express it very clearly.  Thank
you for clarifying.
 

 I'll tear through a mini-HOWTO later today.
 
 The two big diffs were 1) cardmgr asked for wavlan2_cs rather
 than orinoco_cs and 2) adding rw to syslinux.cfg for 2.4.20.

#1 occurs because etc/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.conf is included in the
pcmcia_orinoco.lrp package.  The fact that it's included (and
not renamed to end in something other than .conf) almost seems
like a packaging bug since that package includes hermes.o,
orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o but not wavelan2_cs.o .

--Brad



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless and wavelan2_cs.conf

2003-01-17 Thread Matt Schalit 


Brad Fritz wrote:


#1 occurs because etc/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.conf is included in the
pcmcia_orinoco.lrp package.



Ahh, yes, when I rename that file, and svi restart pcmcia,
then it loads with orinoco_cs, rather than wavelan2_cs.
Now I'll have to get the laptop to test.

Matt



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Schalit 
Hey, read down your post included at the bottom, and tell
me why it finds your card as an Intersil?  It finds mine
as a Lucent/Agere.

When I boot my w/rc3 and the pcmcia_orinoco.lrp
that I use, called pcmcia.lrp, version 3.1.33, I see
the following in my syslog:

cardmgr[6583]: watching 2 sockets
cardmgr[14020]: starting, version is 3.1.33
cardmgr[14020]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter
kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean.
cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/hermes.o'
kernel: hermes.c: 16 Jan 2002 David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cardmgr[14020]: + Using /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/hermes.o
cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco.o'
kernel: orinoco.c 0.09b (David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
cardmgr[14020]: + Using /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco.o
cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o'
kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.09b (David Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
cardmgr[14020]: + Using /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x290-0x297 0x3c0-0x3e7 0x3f0-0x3f7 0x4d0-0x4d7
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0298-0x03bf: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03e8-0x03ef: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03f8-0x04cf: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
kernel: eth2: Station identity 001f:0001:0007:001c
kernel: eth2: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 7.28
kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
kernel: eth2: WEP supported, 104-bit key
kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:74:55:93
kernel: eth2: Station name HERMES I
kernel: eth2: ready
kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0100-0x013f
cardmgr[14020]: executing: './network start eth2'


Hub:# cd pcmcia
Hub:# ls -l
-rw-r--r--1 root root11248 Jun 16  2002 ds.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root 6060 Jun 16  2002 hermes.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root33728 Jun 16  2002 i82365.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root42152 Jun 16  2002 orinoco.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8100 Jun 16  2002 orinoco_cs.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root58163 Jun 16  2002 pcmcia_core.o


Comparing our two filesets, I have no idea what you are
using in your attempt to get rc3 running.  Please list the
exact directory and filename of the .lrp you downloaded
from leaf.sourceforge.net to handle your pcmcia, presumably
a version of pcmcia_orinoco.lrp.  Also do a lrpkg -l and tell
me what version is claims your pcmcia.lrp is.





Matt,

I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.

Here what I got :

The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
..
hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0xc7ff)
hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 54463.255


^^



Regards,
Matthew



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-16 Thread wing newton 
Matt,

I found out what the problem was. It was caused by
memory conflict. I modified the config.opts and did a
few includes/excludes io ports and memory. It fixed
the problem right away. I couldn't locate any hardware
infomation from Lucent/Agere and I just did by trials
and errors and wathed  what hermes.c did with the
offset. Apparently, it reads some unmapped memory
location and thinks that it is an Intersil chipset.

Thank you for your help.

BTW, do you know if I can use the same interface to do
both ad-hoc and managed mode concurrently ? I meant to
use 1 channel for ad-hoc and and use a different
channel  to provide access point service. 

Thank you for your help again.

Newton


--- Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, read down your post included at the bottom, and
 tell
 me why it finds your card as an Intersil?  It finds
 mine
 as a Lucent/Agere.
 
 When I boot my w/rc3 and the pcmcia_orinoco.lrp
 that I use, called pcmcia.lrp, version 3.1.33, I see
 the following in my syslog:
 
 cardmgr[6583]: watching 2 sockets
 cardmgr[14020]: starting, version is 3.1.33
 cardmgr[14020]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps
 Wireless Adapter
 kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean.
 cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/hermes.o'
 kernel: hermes.c: 16 Jan 2002 David Gibson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cardmgr[14020]: + Using
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/hermes.o
 cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco.o'
 kernel: orinoco.c 0.09b (David Gibson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
 cardmgr[14020]: + Using
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco.o
 cardmgr[14020]: executing: 'insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o'
 kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.09b (David Gibson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
 cardmgr[14020]: + Using
 /lib/modules/2.4.18/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding
 0x290-0x297 0x3c0-0x3e7 0x3f0-0x3f7 0x4d0-0x4d7
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0298-0x03bf: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03e8-0x03ef: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03f8-0x04cf: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
 kernel: eth2: Station identity 001f:0001:0007:001c
 kernel: eth2: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware
 version 7.28
 kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
 kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode
 supported
 kernel: eth2: WEP supported, 104-bit key
 kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:74:55:93
 kernel: eth2: Station name HERMES I
 kernel: eth2: ready
 kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io
 0x0100-0x013f
 cardmgr[14020]: executing: './network start eth2'
 
 
 Hub:# cd pcmcia
 Hub:# ls -l
 -rw-r--r--1 root root11248 Jun 16 
 2002 ds.o
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 6060 Jun 16 
 2002 hermes.o
 -rw-r--r--1 root root33728 Jun 16 
 2002 i82365.o
 -rw-r--r--1 root root42152 Jun 16 
 2002 orinoco.o
 -rw-r--r--1 root root 8100 Jun 16 
 2002 orinoco_cs.o
 -rw-r--r--1 root root58163 Jun 16 
 2002 pcmcia_core.o
 
 
 Comparing our two filesets, I have no idea what you
 are
 using in your attempt to get rc3 running.  Please
 list the
 exact directory and filename of the .lrp you
 downloaded
 from leaf.sourceforge.net to handle your pcmcia,
 presumably
 a version of pcmcia_orinoco.lrp.  Also do a lrpkg -l
 and tell
 me what version is claims your pcmcia.lrp is.
 
 
 
 
 Matt,
 
 I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.
 
 Here what I got :
 
 The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
 ..
 hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match
 type (0xc7ff)
 hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to
 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
 eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version
 54463.255
 
 
 ^^
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Matthew
 
 
 

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Schalit 


Scott Merrill wrote:

This is a long message, attempting to document the steps I took to get my 
Orinoco wireless cards to work in my laptop and in my LEAF/Bering box.


Hey, funny thing, I just got 1.0 stable running my
Orinoco gold, and it cardmgr choked if I only had
the orinoco*.o modules in /lib/modules/pcmcia/
It complained in syslog that it wanted wavlan2_cs.o!!

So I added that to /lib/modules/pcmcia and svi restarted
pcmcia and I got 2 beeps, iwconfig, everything.  Cool.

I'm using 2.4.20 btw.  Tricky.





[smerrill@smerrill secondary]$ head lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
orinoco_cs  4712   0 (unused)
orinoco29568   0 [orinoco_cs]
hermes  3296   0 [orinoco_cs orinoco]
appletalk  18988   0 (autoclean)
ipx15636   0 (autoclean)
3c575_cb   19876   2
cb_enabler  2528   2 [3c575_cb]
ds  6624   2 [orinoco_cs cb_enabler]
i82365 22416   2





ipx, heh heh.






modified the file to look like this:

# Lucent Wavelan IEEE (+ Orinoco, RoamAbout and ELSA)
# Note : wvlan_cs driver only, and version 1.0.4+ for encryption support
*,*,*,00:60:1D:*|*,*,*,00:02:2D:*)
INFO=Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)
ESSID=test
MODE=Ad-Hoc
#RATE=auto
#KEY=s:secu1
# To set all four keys, use :





Yes those are the recommened mods in the Bering users guide.






For all I know, waving a dead chicken over both cards...



Try waving live turkeys.  It's a helluva lot more,
well, everything...


leaner too




Things yet to figure out:
* why does LEAF/Bering think that I ejected the card if it hasn't been used 
for a while?


Dunno.  Try the 2.4.20/latest.




* why doesn't LEAF/Bering hand out DHCP addresses on the wireless segment?
  (I have a subnet declaration for 192.168.1.0/24 in /etc/dhcpd.conf, and I 
modified /etc/init.d/dhcpd to include both eth1 and eth2)


Don't know dhcp with repect to wireless, sorry.
Start a new thread, perhaps.



* why does my wireless card fail to initialize unless my 3Com 3c575 card is 
inserted first?  Is this something to do with /etc/network/interfaces?


Don't know pc-card hardware issues much at all.

good luck scott,
matt




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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Schalit 
wing newton wrote:
 Matt,

 Thank you for your help.




Hi again Newton,

  I just got my Bering-1.0 up and running great w/kernel 2.4.20
and my Orinoco Gold.  I started from blank diskettes and built
the system out of parts from /devel/jnilo/bering/latest/
following the Bering install guide and users guide.  The only
parts I reused from rc3 were tinydns, dnscache, and some unchanged
libs like libm.

  It was a little tricky getting 2.4.20 up, especially finding
the kernel in JN's underground maze of directories.

  I pretty much religiously followed the install guide for
the basic setup, then the user's guide for the Orinoco stuff.
The funny thing was, when I did so, my syslog had errors in
it from cardmgr, and my wireless setup didn't completely work.
Instead of getting 2 beeps, I got a beep, bonk.  The syslog
complained that it wanted wavlan2_cs.o.

  So I installed it and with an svi pcmcia restart, I was
in 2 beep land.





The Orinoco (WaveLAN turob) gold firmware is the
latest i.e. version 8.10. 


I'm still on 7.28.




And what exact packages are you loading, and
please note file sizes and dates so I can compare.




I go the packages directly from the sourceforge/leaf
site. Here is my ls -l of /lib/modules/pcmcia


-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8848 Jul 19  2002 8390.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root15788 Jul 19  2002 axnet_cs.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root11248 Jun 16  2002 ds.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 6060 Jun 16  2002 hermes.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root33728 Jun 16  2002 i82365.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root42152 Jun 16  2002 orinoco.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8100 Jun 16  2002 orinoco_cs.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root58163 Jun 16  2002 pcmcia_core.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root18016 Jul 19  2002 pcnet_cs.o



I took a closer look at your list, and there was nothing
different about the files we both had, when I was using
2.4.18 and rc3.  Now that I'm on 2.4.20 and 1.0-stable,
our files totally differ.

Have a great day,
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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-16 Thread Matt Schalit 


wing newton wrote:

Matt,

I found out what the problem was. It was caused by
memory conflict.

...


Nice spotting that.  Thank God for useful output
to the syslog and dmesg, huh?





BTW, do you know if I can use the same interface to do
both ad-hoc and managed mode concurrently ? 

Never heard of that.  If you don't get an answer,
you might ask on a wireless list.

Cheers,
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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-15 Thread wing newton 
Matt,

Thank you for your help.

--- Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Looks like you're working towards eth0
 for you wireless.  That deviates from the
 users guide, not that it's a bad thing by
 nature, but I don't know what the affects are.
 

I tried eth0, eth1, eth2. Eth0 was used because the
ethernet network module was not loaded. In this case,
tulip.o.

 Still, how do you determine the bios revision
 on an Orinoco Gold?


The Orinoco (WaveLAN turob) gold firmware is the
latest i.e. version 8.10. 
 
 And what exact packages are you loading, and
 please note file sizes and dates so I can compare.
 

I go the packages directly from the sourceforge/leaf
site. Here is my ls -l of /lib/modules/pcmcia


-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8848 Jul 19  2002
8390.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root15788 Jul 19  2002
axnet_cs.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root11248 Jun 16  2002
ds.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 6060 Jun 16  2002
hermes.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root33728 Jun 16  2002
i82365.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root42152 Jun 16  2002
orinoco.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8100 Jun 16  2002
orinoco_cs.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root58163 Jun 16  2002
pcmcia_core.o
-rw-r--r--   1 root root18016 Jul 19  2002
pcnet_cs.o

I did a search on google on Hermes_read_ltv type not
match . I found that there are patches for hermes.c.
Don't know if Bering-orinoco needs the same patches.
One explanation was that hermes.c does not do another
scan after it detects errors on its first  read. Where
can I locate the source of the pcmcia-orinoco.lrp ?

I still wonder if there is memory conflict problem
between the orinoco card and another device on the
same system. I may have to de-populate my system to
find out if it is the case. If someone can confirm
that this may be the case, it will be very helpful.


And, this  is my sysconfig.cfg - exactly what I got
from the pcmcia-orinoco.lrp:


Display syslinux.dpy
timeout 0
default linux initrd=initrd.lrp init=/linuxrc
root=/dev/ram0 boot=/dev/fd0u1680:
msdos PKGPATH=/dev/fd0u1680
LRP=root,etc,local,modules,pcmcia,wireless,libm,pump
,dhcpd,shorwall,dnscache,weblet


Thank you again.
  

Best regards.

Newton



 Regards,
 Matthew
 
 
 
 
 
 wing newton wrote:
  Matt,
  
  I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.
  
  Here what I got :
  
  The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
  ..
  hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match
 type
  (0xc7ff)
  hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to
 8
  bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
  eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
  eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version
  54463.255
  eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
  eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
  eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
  eth0: failed to read MAC address !
  orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed 
  
  
  Thank you for your help.
  
  Newton
  
  --- Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 wing newton wrote:
   ... The orinoco gold (WaveLAN Turbo 11
   Mbps) works fine with all versions of Windows -
 XP,
   ME, 2000, Win98) but not with Bering's
 orinoco_cs.
   ...
 
 
 Ok, but as I mentioned, my Orinico Gold works
 in an ISA PC-Card adapter w/Bering rc3.  I've
 never had any problems with it.  Also, the users
 guide is written describing this setup, indicating
 that someone else has had success.
 
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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-15 Thread Scott Merrill 
This is a long message, attempting to document the steps I took to get my 
Orinoco wireless cards to work in my laptop and in my LEAF/Bering box.

I wrote:
 I've been having a devil of a time configuring wireless networking.  I
 have a Compaq Aramada 7370DMT laptop with an Orinoco Gold card, and a
 no-name Pentium 120 desktop running Bering 1.0 stable with 2 SMC Ultra
 ISA network cards and an Orinoco ISA-PCMCIA adapter with an Orinoco Gold
 card.

Matt Schalit responded:
 Hi Scott, sorry to hear about the wireless problems.
 I have the same network hardware as you.  Tell us if
 you diverged at all from the Bering User's Guide Orinoco
 section?

 Also, you haven't pasted in the wireless config
 files nor the output of iwconfig.

 But if we trust you have those right, then the
 flakey response sounds like hardware at first
 glance.  Have you 100% proven to yourself that
 each piece of hardware works?

 What link speeds do you get when the two systems
 are next to each other?

I took my laptop and both Orinoco cards to the local Cup O' Joe coffee shop, 
which offers free wireless access (http://www.internet-oasis.com/).  In turn, 
I inserted each card and it was immediately recognized by the system (running 
Debian sarge, but using woody's pcmcia-cs and wireless-tools packages).  
'sudo /sbin/dhclient eth1' immediately gave each card an IP address.

I used a generic /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file for this (ie: unmodified from 
the pcmcia-cs package).

Here are the snippets I collected:
** CARD #1 - IMMEDIATELY AFTER INSERTION
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more iwconfig.1
eth1  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:  Nickname:HERMES I
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00
  Bit Rate:11Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
  Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more ifconfig.1
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:2D:61:81:5B
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:3 Base address:0x140
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ tail kern.log
Jan 14 17:40:03 exodus kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.09b (David Gibson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and others)
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0008:0048
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware 
version 8.72
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: WEP supported, 104-bit key
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:61:81:5B
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: Station name HERMES I
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: ready
Jan 14 17:40:04 exodus kernel: eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 
0x0140-0x017f
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ head lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
orinoco_cs  4712   0 (unused)
orinoco29568   0 [orinoco_cs]
hermes  3296   0 [orinoco_cs orinoco]
3c575_cb   19876   2
cb_enabler  2528   2 [3c575_cb]
ds  6624   2 [orinoco_cs cb_enabler]
i82365 22416   2
pcmcia_core41408   0 [orinoco_cs cb_enabler ds i82365]
** CARD #1 -- AFTER RUNNING dhclient
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more iwconfig.dhclient
eth1  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:Internet Oasis (FREE)  Nickname:HERMES I
  Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.437GHz  Cell: 00:02:2D:3F:FF:4E
  Bit Rate:11Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
  Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more ifconfig.dhclient
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:2D:61:81:5B
  inet addr:10.0.1.7  Bcast:10.0.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:1806 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1188 (1.1 KiB)
  Interrupt:3 Base address:0x140
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more proc_net_wireless
Inter-| sta-|   Quality|   Discarded packets   | Missed
 face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon
  eth1: 0 0 00  0  0  0  00

At this point, I did a few pings, browsed a few websites via lynx (yahoo, cnn, 
LEAF).  Here's the status after a bit of use.
[smerrill@smerrill main]$ more

Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-15 Thread Brock Nanson 
Newton,

I have several Bering boxes running with the Lucent Silver cards.  Aside
from WEP, they should be the same as yours.  I'm running firmware 8.1
also, but I do note that there is an 8.72 available now.  Don't know if
that breaks anything with Bering!

I've seen similar reset messages on my systems when I try to move a lot
of data and the connection strength is not good.  However, I don't think
that is the problem in your case - the log entry mentioning Intersil is
a red flag.  The system seems to think you have a PRISM2 card if I
recall what Intersil is correctly.

I went through the problem of Intersil being found and eventually
cleared out the different configuration files of all unnecessary card
entries before the card was identified correctly.  Somewhere I saw a
comment that the driver doesn't always see the card correctly if you
specify a portion of the MAC address in the config... I used the *,*,*,*
in the end and that, perhaps in conjunction with a very clean config
file, solved the problem.  I was suspicious that the script was perhaps
reading the configuration files oddly as it seemed to skip over my card
and settle on the Intersil as the next best thing.

Anyway, these suggestions are based on not a whole lot ;-)  But they did
do the trick for me!

Brock

 Matt,
 
 I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.
 
 Here what I got :
 
 The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
 ..
 hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type
 (0xc7ff)
 hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to 8
 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
 eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version
 54463.255
 eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
 eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
 eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
 eth0: failed to read MAC address !
 orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed 
 
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread Matt Schalit 
Hi Scott, sorry to hear about the wireless problems.
I have the same network hardware as you.  Tell us if
you diverged at all from the Bering User's Guide Orinoco
section?

Also, you haven't pasted in the wireless config
files nor the output of iwconfig.

But if we trust you have those right, then the
flakey response sounds like hardware at first
glance.  Have you 100% proven to yourself that
each piece of hardware works?

What link speeds do you get when the two systems
are next to each other?

Matt


Scott Merrill wrote:

I've been having a devil of a time configuring wireless networking.  I have a 
Compaq Aramada 7370DMT laptop with an Orinoco Gold card, and a no-name 
Pentium 120 desktop running Bering 1.0 stable with 2 SMC Ultra ISA network 
cards and an Orinoco ISA-PCMCIA adapter with an Orinoco Gold card.



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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread Scott Merrill 
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 01:45 pm, Matt Schalit wrote:
 Hi Scott, sorry to hear about the wireless problems.
 I have the same network hardware as you.  Tell us if
 you diverged at all from the Bering User's Guide Orinoco
 section?

I flashed both cards to the latest firmware from www.orinocowireless.com, 
which isn't mentioned in the Guide.

Rather than comment out the first four lines of wireless.opts, I entered my 
values in that block:
   INFO=test
   MODE=Ad-Hoc
   RATE=auto
   ESSID=test

 Also, you haven't pasted in the wireless config
 files nor the output of iwconfig.

I knew I'd forget something!  All of the equipment is at home, while I'm at 
work.  I'll send the output from each later tonight.

I can tell you that 'iwconfig' on the laptop shows:
   lo: no wireless extensions
   eth0: no wireless extensions
I have to specifically call eth1 on the command line for iwconfig in order to 
see the output.

 But if we trust you have those right, then the
 flakey response sounds like hardware at first
 glance.  Have you 100% proven to yourself that
 each piece of hardware works?

I _believe_ they do, although it's hard to be sure.
Just before diving into all of this, I took the card that is currently in the 
laptop to a local coffee shop that offers a free wireless connection.  Both 
Debian and Windows 98 were able to obtain a DHCP address and use the network.

I have not tested the card in the ISA-PCMCIA adapter in the same way, but I 
certainly can do so soon.

 What link speeds do you get when the two systems
 are next to each other?

I didn't check while in Debian.  I did boot into Windows 98 to use the Orinoco 
Link Monitor utility.  It showed a Good 11Mbps connection while in the 
same room as the Bering box, and dropped to Marginal when I took the laptop 
downstairs.  After several minutes at Marginal, the link suddenly jumped 
back up to Excellent, but the MAC address listed for the remote station 
changed to a series of all 4s, and the bar charts all went blank.  I can't 
recall now whether the Bering box reported errors after this or not.

I have not tried switching the cards between computers, but I will do that 
tonight.

Thanks for the help!


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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread Erich Titl 
Hi Scott

IIRC there is an issue with the latest firmware level and the orinoco 
drivers. You might want to downgrade the firmware for a test.

HTH

Erich

At 13:59 14.01.2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 01:45 pm, Matt Schalit wrote:
 Hi Scott, sorry to hear about the wireless problems.
 I have the same network hardware as you.  Tell us if
 you diverged at all from the Bering User's Guide Orinoco
 section?

I flashed both cards to the latest firmware from www.orinocowireless.com,
which isn't mentioned in the Guide.


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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread wing newton 

Check the log messages. I have similiar problem with
orinoco_cs driver. The orinoco gold (WaveLAN Turbo 11
Mbps) works fine with all versions of Windows - XP,
ME, 2000, Win98) but not with Bering's orinoco_cs. For
some reasons, the orinoco_cs can't access the card
correctly. It can't get the Mac address from the
firmware. I have tried most of the orinoco firmware -
6.x - 8.x (which is the latest). I still got the same
result. I can't complain to Lucent (Agrere) because it
works fine with Windows.  

Newton



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wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 January 2003 01:45 pm, Matt Schalit
 wrote:
  Hi Scott, sorry to hear about the wireless
 problems.
  I have the same network hardware as you.  Tell us
 if
  you diverged at all from the Bering User's Guide
 Orinoco
  section?
 
 I flashed both cards to the latest firmware from
 www.orinocowireless.com, 
 which isn't mentioned in the Guide.
 
 Rather than comment out the first four lines of
 wireless.opts, I entered my 
 values in that block:
INFO=test
MODE=Ad-Hoc
RATE=auto
ESSID=test
 
  Also, you haven't pasted in the wireless config
  files nor the output of iwconfig.
 
 I knew I'd forget something!  All of the equipment
 is at home, while I'm at 
 work.  I'll send the output from each later tonight.
 
 I can tell you that 'iwconfig' on the laptop shows:
lo: no wireless extensions
eth0: no wireless extensions
 I have to specifically call eth1 on the command line
 for iwconfig in order to 
 see the output.
 
  But if we trust you have those right, then the
  flakey response sounds like hardware at first
  glance.  Have you 100% proven to yourself that
  each piece of hardware works?
 
 I _believe_ they do, although it's hard to be sure.
 Just before diving into all of this, I took the card
 that is currently in the 
 laptop to a local coffee shop that offers a free
 wireless connection.  Both 
 Debian and Windows 98 were able to obtain a DHCP
 address and use the network.
 
 I have not tested the card in the ISA-PCMCIA adapter
 in the same way, but I 
 certainly can do so soon.
 
  What link speeds do you get when the two systems
  are next to each other?
 
 I didn't check while in Debian.  I did boot into
 Windows 98 to use the Orinoco 
 Link Monitor utility.  It showed a Good 11Mbps
 connection while in the 
 same room as the Bering box, and dropped to
 Marginal when I took the laptop 
 downstairs.  After several minutes at Marginal,
 the link suddenly jumped 
 back up to Excellent, but the MAC address listed
 for the remote station 
 changed to a series of all 4s, and the bar charts
 all went blank.  I can't 
 recall now whether the Bering box reported errors
 after this or not.
 
 I have not tried switching the cards between
 computers, but I will do that 
 tonight.
 
 Thanks for the help!
 
 

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread Matt Schalit 
wing newton wrote:
 ... The orinoco gold (WaveLAN Turbo 11
 Mbps) works fine with all versions of Windows - XP,
 ME, 2000, Win98) but not with Bering's orinoco_cs.
 ...


Ok, but as I mentioned, my Orinico Gold works
in an ISA PC-Card adapter w/Bering rc3.  I've
never had any problems with it.  Also, the users
guide is written describing this setup, indicating
that someone else has had success.

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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread wing newton 
Matt,

I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.

Here what I got :

The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
..
hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type
(0xc7ff)
hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to 8
bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version
54463.255
eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth0: failed to read MAC address !
orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed 


Thank you for your help.

Newton

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 wing newton wrote:
   ... The orinoco gold (WaveLAN Turbo 11
   Mbps) works fine with all versions of Windows -
 XP,
   ME, 2000, Win98) but not with Bering's
 orinoco_cs.
   ...
 
 
 Ok, but as I mentioned, my Orinico Gold works
 in an ISA PC-Card adapter w/Bering rc3.  I've
 never had any problems with it.  Also, the users
 guide is written describing this setup, indicating
 that someone else has had success.
 
 Best,
 Matt
 
 
 
 


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Re: [leaf-user] Bering + Orinoco wireless

2003-01-14 Thread Matt Schalit 

Looks like you're working towards eth0
for you wireless.  That deviates from the
users guide, not that it's a bad thing by
nature, but I don't know what the affects are.

Still, how do you determine the bios revision
on an Orinoco Gold?

And what exact packages are you loading, and
please note file sizes and dates so I can compare.

Regards,
Matthew





wing newton wrote:

Matt,

I brought up RC3 Bering-orinoco again.

Here what I got :

The card is WaveLAN/IEEE.
..
hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type
(0xc7ff)
hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 508 to 8
bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x00ff)
eth0: Station identity 003f:00ff:d4bf:00ff
eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version
54463.255
eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth0: failed to read MAC address !
orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed 


Thank you for your help.

Newton

--- Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

wing newton wrote:
 ... The orinoco gold (WaveLAN Turbo 11
 Mbps) works fine with all versions of Windows -
XP,
 ME, 2000, Win98) but not with Bering's
orinoco_cs.
 ...


Ok, but as I mentioned, my Orinico Gold works
in an ISA PC-Card adapter w/Bering rc3.  I've
never had any problems with it.  Also, the users
guide is written describing this setup, indicating
that someone else has had success.

Best,
Matt








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