Re: [LU] New season

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 The last two pre-season games have been promising.
Nick
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 01:32:42 PM EDT, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 I’m not ‘too’ pessimistic - the 49ers have clearly had plenty to deal with 
financially, the stream of quitters now on loan has been both helpful and 
unhelpful, but the clamour to give our youth a chance is hopefully going to 
happen? I don’t see Paddy being fit enough for more than 20 starts, ditto 
Sinisterra too maybe? But there are players with big points to prove - Perkins, 
Joseph, Drameh (although I still can’t see him staying), Cresswell, Gray and 
Helde. 

I don’t subscribe to the ‘done nothing’ line - clearly incorrect, but it has 
been a very modest transfer window so far - I suspect there’s an element of 
let’s get the season started and see how we go before bringing anyone else in? 

Enjoy the rest of this week, because one thing is for sure, we’ll all have very 
different views after the Cardiff game :-) 



> On 1 Aug 2023, at 16:38, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> I find it so uplifting that the Yanks have learned the Leeds way. 
> -- Do fuck all and pretend that it is enough 
> 
> 
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> Community Psychiatrist.
> Oranit,
> ISRAEL
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
> Leedslist
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:07 PM
> To: leeds list 
> Subject: [LU] New season
> 
> Like every season i am champing at the bit to return to ER but it is so hard 
> to work out what to expect. If we can keep the likes of Sinisterra 
> Summerville Gnonto and Adams we have the makings of a good championship team, 
> less so if they all depart I do find it odd and worrying that with 5 days to 
> go, it looks like we will go into the new season with no left back, or , at 
> best, an injury prone right back ( byram) playing there Equally we , at 
> present  are relying on an injury prone and currently injured centre forward, 
> who even at his best was wasteful in front of goal. Bamford has been a good 
> servant but injured for 2 seasons and surely it would be madness to rely on a 
> combination of him, an unproven kid ( josep) and a winger playing out of 
> position (Rutter) to score the goals we will need.
> I know the window does not shut till end of August but too many things need 
> sorting for my liking 
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] New Season

[Kevin Lewis via Leedslist]

As Dave says, we don't seem to be at all ready. I can't see Leeds getting
going early enough to make a real promotion challenge. I'm hoping the 49
ers injection, the parachute payment and another transfer window to sort
things out might just give us a chance of sneaking into the play offs.

I'd like to revise my evaluation of the Radrizanni/Orta years in the light
of this summer.  Both must be to blame for the contracts which allowed 6
players who cost £85 mil to leave for essentially nothing.  Also the
refusal to accept even the possibility of relegation in the setting up of
the 49ers take over, delayed everything in the close season.

So whilst getting rid of the previous regime, buying back the ground,
sorting out debts and getting Bielsa, should have made them an unqualified
success, they have left us in a pretty bad way now.

The mess of the Augustin deal, and the embarrassment surrounding the
non-signings of Cuisance, Bamba-Dieng and James (the first time) did not
give me much confidence in their abilities.

As to how the obvious deficiencies in the squad will show up on the pitch,
we will soon find out.
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Re: [LU] New season

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I’m not ‘too’ pessimistic - the 49ers have clearly had plenty to deal with 
financially, the stream of quitters now on loan has been both helpful and 
unhelpful, but the clamour to give our youth a chance is hopefully going to 
happen? I don’t see Paddy being fit enough for more than 20 starts, ditto 
Sinisterra too maybe? But there are players with big points to prove - Perkins, 
Joseph, Drameh (although I still can’t see him staying), Cresswell, Gray and 
Helde. 

I don’t subscribe to the ‘done nothing’ line - clearly incorrect, but it has 
been a very modest transfer window so far - I suspect there’s an element of 
let’s get the season started and see how we go before bringing anyone else in? 

Enjoy the rest of this week, because one thing is for sure, we’ll all have very 
different views after the Cardiff game :-) 



> On 1 Aug 2023, at 16:38, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> I find it so uplifting that the Yanks have learned the Leeds way. 
> -- Do fuck all and pretend that it is enough 
> 
> 
> Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
> Community Psychiatrist.
> Oranit,
> ISRAEL
> 
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
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> BLOG: Times Of Israel || Quora || Jerusalem Post || MYCYBERTHERAPY BLOG
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
> Leedslist
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:07 PM
> To: leeds list 
> Subject: [LU] New season
> 
> Like every season i am champing at the bit to return to ER but it is so hard 
> to work out what to expect. If we can keep the likes of Sinisterra 
> Summerville Gnonto and Adams we have the makings of a good championship team, 
> less so if they all depart I do find it odd and worrying that with 5 days to 
> go, it looks like we will go into the new season with no left back, or , at 
> best, an injury prone right back ( byram) playing there Equally we , at 
> present   are relying on an injury prone and currently injured centre 
> forward, who even at his best was wasteful in front of goal. Bamford has been 
> a good servant but injured for 2 seasons and surely it would be madness to 
> rely on a combination of him, an unproven kid ( josep) and a winger playing 
> out of position (Rutter) to score the goals we will need.
> I know the window does not shut till end of August but too many things need 
> sorting for my liking 
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] New season

[Michael Benjamin]

I find it so uplifting that the Yanks have learned the Leeds way. 
-- Do fuck all and pretend that it is enough 


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Community Psychiatrist.
Oranit,
ISRAEL

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-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nattan--- via 
Leedslist
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:07 PM
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] New season

Like every season i am champing at the bit to return to ER but it is so hard to 
work out what to expect. If we can keep the likes of Sinisterra Summerville 
Gnonto and Adams we have the makings of a good championship team, less so if 
they all depart I do find it odd and worrying that with 5 days to go, it looks 
like we will go into the new season with no left back, or , at best, an injury 
prone right back ( byram) playing there Equally we , at present   are relying 
on an injury prone and currently injured centre forward, who even at his best 
was wasteful in front of goal. Bamford has been a good servant but injured for 
2 seasons and surely it would be madness to rely on a combination of him, an 
unproven kid ( josep) and a winger playing out of position (Rutter) to score 
the goals we will need.
I know the window does not shut till end of August but too many things need 
sorting for my liking 

Dave
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[LU] New season

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

Like every season i am champing at the bit to return to ER
but it is so hard to work out what to expect. 
If we can keep the likes of Sinisterra Summerville Gnonto and Adams we have the 
makings of a good championship team, less so if they all depart
I do find it odd and worrying that with 5 days to go, it looks like we will go 
into the new season with no left back, or , at best, an injury prone right back 
( byram) playing there
Equally we , at present   are relying on an injury prone and currently injured 
centre forward, who even at his best was wasteful in front of goal. Bamford has 
been a good servant but injured for 2 seasons and surely it would be madness to 
rely on a combination of him, an unproven kid ( josep) and a winger playing out 
of position (Rutter) to score the goals we will need.
I know the window does not shut till end of August but too many things need 
sorting for my liking 

Dave
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Re: [LU] New Season - Very quiet

[Guy Thornton]

Agreed, questions that need to be asked Kev. 
And the comments from Alex give some food for thought.
As for being a weird season that's more like it's going to be a very weird 
world for some time with an 
'interesting' season thrown in

I to expected more postings to the list. Has email become so passée and old 
fashioned?
Have posted some articles from The Guardian and Observer to the facebook page.
In case anyone hasn't seen them:

Here comes El Loco: Is the Premier League ready for Marcelo Biesla?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/05/here-comes-el-loco-is-the-premier-league-ready-f
or-marcelo-bielsa-leeds-united

Premier League preview - Leeds
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/sep/04/premier-league-2020-21-preview-no-9-leeds-
united

and if you ever wondered where the "Dirty Leeds" moniker came from:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/17/the-fiver-dirty-leeds-premier-league-bielsa?

BTW Congratulations KOT - Tongo is one of the 10 countries still corona free !

guy


On 7 Sep 2020 at 21:59, John Lee via Leedslist wrote:

Good questions Kev. I 'thought' I read Leeds were taking care of Berardi with 
the view to a further 1 
year contract, but I might have imagined that?

Augustin - I hope we get out of that one, but with the lawyers I suspect?

This season - I'm optimistic we'll be competitive this season, but I am very 
worried that we're playing 
the all-conquering Liverpool in 5 days with our players all over Europe. I 
don't know how Bielsa will 
work his magic in this scenario, but really could do without a thrashing first 
game. I'm 'hoping' our 
style will catch Liverpool out, but ITMmnot exactly conident.

I did read we were in for 2 Prem players, one being the Argentinian, Foyth, but 
having heard little for 
a week I don't know if they're happening or not? 

Sent from my iPad

> On 7 Sep 2020, at 20:49, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> 
> Being a Bournemouth (as well as a Leeds) fan, I have some practice in the art 
> of not going down when you should. Here's what you need: 
> 
> 1. 10 wins. A bit obvious, but pretty much you always need 10.
> 2. A decent manager. We have one of those, so there's hope
> 3. A decent core squad. Trouble here. Not good enough yet. 
> 4. A few decent signings each year. Bournemouth struggled with this... 
> eventually the poor signings got the better of them, and down they go.
> 5. A bit of luck to avoid injuries to key players. Again, B'th suffered badly 
> on this one
> 6. A home siege mentality: we've got this in Spades, could be a trump card
> 7. A bit of luck in the early season: this can get you 2 or 3 wins quickly, 
> and this makes the season oh so much easier. Lose the first 4, and you're in 
> trouble.
> 8. A decent defence, especially a class central defender. Oops, we ain't got 
> nuffin. Our one class lad we had has gone. 
> 9. A striker who avoids injury and can bury them reliably. Another miss, 
> unless our new signing can do the biz and be a star: unknown quantity.
> 10. Beat the teams at the bottom win the 6 pointers, and you stay up. 
> B'th didn't... they went down. It's no good beating Chelsea and ManU one 
> week, and then losing to Villa and Fulham the next. We have to beat the 
> smaller teams. 
> 
> On balance, I would say we are a 17th or 18th placed squad right now. We 
> desperately need some Bielsa Magic. Without it, we are gonna struggle. 
> 
> Having said all this, I seriously hope we are top by Xmas and win the league 
> by 30 points. 
> Cheers
> Alec
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 8 Sep 2020, at 05:00, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Very little traffic on the list.  I would have expected it to be in 
>> meltdown, or are we all still too 
stunned at the prospect of Leeds being in the Premier League
>> 
>> Anyway, before the season and list gets into full swing I've got a couple of 
>> things that have been 
on my mind for a few weeks.
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  Berardi.  What happened to him?  I realise he is out of contract and 
>> injured (sadly).  But it is 
almost like he has become a non-person.  His name does not appear on any squad 
lists on sites, but 
there has been no official announcement either.  Do Leeds pay for his treatment 
and rehabilitation, or 
do they just say 'ContractTMs Up, ByeTM.   Is he still registered as  Leeds 
player?  ITMm sure heTMs 
not on his uppers, but going 9 months or however long it takes him to get fit " 
without any pay is not a 
great reward for a player who has been a good servant for 6 ? years, and played 
his part in getting 
Leeds back to the PL.  He may not have been treted as badly as it seems to me, 
but nothing has 
come out of official or news channels.  It would not be right to give him a new 
contract because he 
got injured, nor is it right not to give him one for the same reason.
>> 2.  The Augustin situation.  This probably one for the Contract Lawyers on 
>> the list.  One of the 
things I remember from a very rudimentary level of 

Re: [LU] New Season - Very quiet

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Good questions Kev. I ‘thought’ I read Leeds were taking care of Berardi with 
the view to a further 1 year contract, but I might have imagined that?

Augustin - I hope we get out of that one, but with the lawyers I suspect?

This season - I’m optimistic we’ll be competitive this season, but I am very 
worried that we’re playing the all-conquering Liverpool in 5 days with our 
players all over Europe. I don’t know how Bielsa will work his magic in this 
scenario, but really could do without a thrashing first game. I’m ‘hoping’ our 
style will catch Liverpool out, but I’m not exactly confident.

I did read we were in for 2 Prem players, one being the Argentinian, Foyth, but 
having heard little for a week I don’t know if they’re happening or not? 

This is going to be a very weird season.



Sent from my iPad

> On 7 Sep 2020, at 20:49, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> 
> Being a Bournemouth (as well as a Leeds) fan, I have some practice in the art 
> of not going down when you should. Here’s what you need: 
> 
> 1. 10 wins. A bit obvious, but pretty much you always need 10.
> 2. A decent manager. We have one of those, so there’s hope
> 3. A decent core squad. Trouble here. Not good enough yet. 
> 4. A few decent signings each year. Bournemouth struggled with this... 
> eventually the poor signings got the better of them, and down they go.
> 5. A bit of luck to avoid injuries to key players. Again, B’th suffered badly 
> on this one
> 6. A home siege mentality: we’ve got this in Spades, could be a trump card
> 7. A bit of luck in the early season: this can get you 2 or 3 wins quickly, 
> and this makes the season oh so much easier. Lose the first 4, and you’re in 
> trouble.
> 8. A decent defence, especially a class central defender. Oops, we ain’t got 
> nuffin. Our one class lad we had has gone. 
> 9. A striker who avoids injury and can bury them reliably. Another miss, 
> unless our new signing can do the biz and be a star: unknown quantity.
> 10. Beat the teams at the bottom win the 6 pointers, and you stay up. 
> B’th didn’t... they went down. It’s no good beating Chelsea and ManU one 
> week, and then losing to Villa and Fulham the next. We have to beat the 
> smaller teams. 
> 
> On balance, I would say we are a 17th or 18th placed squad right now. We 
> desperately need some Bielsa Magic. Without it, we are gonna struggle. 
> 
> Having said all this, I seriously hope we are top by Xmas and win the league 
> by 30 points. 
> Cheers
> Alec
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 8 Sep 2020, at 05:00, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Very little traffic on the list.  I would have expected it to be in 
>> meltdown, or are we all still too stunned at the prospect of Leeds being in 
>> the Premier League
>> 
>> Anyway, before the season and list gets into full swing I’ve got a couple of 
>> things that have been on my mind for a few weeks.
>> 
>> 
>> 1.  Berardi.  What happened to him?  I realise he is out of contract and 
>> injured (sadly).  But it is almost like he has become a non-person.  His 
>> name does not appear on any squad lists on sites, but there has been no 
>> official announcement either.  Do Leeds pay for his treatment and 
>> rehabilitation, or do they just say ‘Contract’s Up, Bye’.   Is he still 
>> registered as  Leeds player?  I’m sure he’s not on his uppers, but going 9 
>> months or however long it takes him to get fit – without any pay is not a 
>> great reward for a player who has been a good servant for 6 ? years, and 
>> played his part in getting Leeds back to the PL.  He may not have been 
>> treated as badly as it seems to me, but nothing has come out of official or 
>> news channels.  It would not be right to give him a new contract because he 
>> got injured, nor is it right not to give him one for the same reason.
>> 2.  The Augustin situation.  This probably one for the Contract Lawyers on 
>> the list.  One of the things I remember from a very rudimentary level of 
>> studying Contract Law, was some precedent which stated that an agreement to 
>> agree in the future is not enforceable.  The same thought has struck me over 
>> the years whenever a player signs a ‘Pre-Contract Agreement’ 6 months prior 
>> to his existing contact running out.   Can these things be worded (with the 
>> passing of some consideration possibly) to be legal?  Of course in the 45 
>> years that have passed since I remember this there have probably been all 
>> sorts of legislation around this sort of thing.  Further complicated by 
>> being in (or out of) the EU as well perhaps.  Does anyone have an informed 
>> opinion on this?
>> 
>> After that little lot I’m sure people would rather speculate on Leeds 
>> chances of avoiding relegation, and give opinions on the squad being 
>> assembled.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> KOT.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> UK Shared Business Services Ltd. Registered in England and Wales as a 
>> limited 

Re: [LU] New Season - Very quiet

[Alec McQueen]

Being a Bournemouth (as well as a Leeds) fan, I have some practice in the art 
of not going down when you should. Here’s what you need: 

1. 10 wins. A bit obvious, but pretty much you always need 10.
2. A decent manager. We have one of those, so there’s hope
3. A decent core squad. Trouble here. Not good enough yet. 
4. A few decent signings each year. Bournemouth struggled with this... 
eventually the poor signings got the better of them, and down they go.
5. A bit of luck to avoid injuries to key players. Again, B’th suffered badly 
on this one
6. A home siege mentality: we’ve got this in Spades, could be a trump card
7. A bit of luck in the early season: this can get you 2 or 3 wins quickly, and 
this makes the season oh so much easier. Lose the first 4, and you’re in 
trouble.
8. A decent defence, especially a class central defender. Oops, we ain’t got 
nuffin. Our one class lad we had has gone. 
9. A striker who avoids injury and can bury them reliably. Another miss, unless 
our new signing can do the biz and be a star: unknown quantity.
10. Beat the teams at the bottom win the 6 pointers, and you stay up. B’th 
didn’t... they went down. It’s no good beating Chelsea and ManU one week, and 
then losing to Villa and Fulham the next. We have to beat the smaller teams. 

On balance, I would say we are a 17th or 18th placed squad right now. We 
desperately need some Bielsa Magic. Without it, we are gonna struggle. 

Having said all this, I seriously hope we are top by Xmas and win the league by 
30 points. 
Cheers
Alec

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Sep 2020, at 05:00, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Very little traffic on the list.  I would have expected it to be in meltdown, 
> or are we all still too stunned at the prospect of Leeds being in the Premier 
> League
> 
> Anyway, before the season and list gets into full swing I’ve got a couple of 
> things that have been on my mind for a few weeks.
> 
> 
>  1.  Berardi.  What happened to him?  I realise he is out of contract and 
> injured (sadly).  But it is almost like he has become a non-person.  His name 
> does not appear on any squad lists on sites, but there has been no official 
> announcement either.  Do Leeds pay for his treatment and rehabilitation, or 
> do they just say ‘Contract’s Up, Bye’.   Is he still registered as  Leeds 
> player?  I’m sure he’s not on his uppers, but going 9 months or however long 
> it takes him to get fit – without any pay is not a great reward for a player 
> who has been a good servant for 6 ? years, and played his part in getting 
> Leeds back to the PL.  He may not have been treated as badly as it seems to 
> me, but nothing has come out of official or news channels.  It would not be 
> right to give him a new contract because he got injured, nor is it right not 
> to give him one for the same reason.
>  2.  The Augustin situation.  This probably one for the Contract Lawyers on 
> the list.  One of the things I remember from a very rudimentary level of 
> studying Contract Law, was some precedent which stated that an agreement to 
> agree in the future is not enforceable.  The same thought has struck me over 
> the years whenever a player signs a ‘Pre-Contract Agreement’ 6 months prior 
> to his existing contact running out.   Can these things be worded (with the 
> passing of some consideration possibly) to be legal?  Of course in the 45 
> years that have passed since I remember this there have probably been all 
> sorts of legislation around this sort of thing.  Further complicated by being 
> in (or out of) the EU as well perhaps.  Does anyone have an informed opinion 
> on this?
> 
> After that little lot I’m sure people would rather speculate on Leeds chances 
> of avoiding relegation, and give opinions on the squad being assembled.
> 
> Cheers
> KOT.
> 
> 
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[LU] New Season - Very quiet

[Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)]

Hi all,
Very little traffic on the list.  I would have expected it to be in meltdown, 
or are we all still too stunned at the prospect of Leeds being in the Premier 
League

Anyway, before the season and list gets into full swing I’ve got a couple of 
things that have been on my mind for a few weeks.


  1.  Berardi.  What happened to him?  I realise he is out of contract and 
injured (sadly).  But it is almost like he has become a non-person.  His name 
does not appear on any squad lists on sites, but there has been no official 
announcement either.  Do Leeds pay for his treatment and rehabilitation, or do 
they just say ‘Contract’s Up, Bye’.   Is he still registered as  Leeds player?  
I’m sure he’s not on his uppers, but going 9 months or however long it takes 
him to get fit – without any pay is not a great reward for a player who has 
been a good servant for 6 ? years, and played his part in getting Leeds back to 
the PL.  He may not have been treated as badly as it seems to me, but nothing 
has come out of official or news channels.  It would not be right to give him a 
new contract because he got injured, nor is it right not to give him one for 
the same reason.
  2.  The Augustin situation.  This probably one for the Contract Lawyers on 
the list.  One of the things I remember from a very rudimentary level of 
studying Contract Law, was some precedent which stated that an agreement to 
agree in the future is not enforceable.  The same thought has struck me over 
the years whenever a player signs a ‘Pre-Contract Agreement’ 6 months prior to 
his existing contact running out.   Can these things be worded (with the 
passing of some consideration possibly) to be legal?  Of course in the 45 years 
that have passed since I remember this there have probably been all sorts of 
legislation around this sort of thing.  Further complicated by being in (or out 
of) the EU as well perhaps.  Does anyone have an informed opinion on this?

After that little lot I’m sure people would rather speculate on Leeds chances 
of avoiding relegation, and give opinions on the squad being assembled.

Cheers
KOT.


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Re: [LU] Fw: Season defining game?

[Ian Murray]

In Ireland lads is an androgynous term..


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Re: [LU] Season defining game?
  I meant the players who are all lads ( it was an exhortation to them)
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[LU] Fw: Season defining game?

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   - Forwarded message - From: nat...@sky.com To: John 
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Re: [LU] Season defining game?
  I meant the players who are all lads ( it was an exhortation to them)
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Re: [LU] Alioski season over

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Shame I know he has got a lot of stick but the guy has given everything.
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[LU] LU: Season Ticket

[Robinson, Mick]

Hi Guys

Anyone with 5 home attendance and not buying a season ticket willing to let me 
get one with their number please ???

Regards
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[LU] Next season

[Mark]

What about this Darren Moore fella at WBA? Surely he can motivate players to 
succeed more than Heckingbottom?


I would agree with most everyone else regarding the players I'd dump this 
off-season. And this is my list:

Pennington, Lonegan, Felix, Roofe, Berardi, Dallas, Sacko, Cibicki and Saiz 
because I think he lacks the bottle to fight and win plus sadly Alioski, 
because no matter how much I want him to succeed he never seems to deliver 
anything game in and game out.

And if Cooper, Lasogga or O'Kane ever pull on a Leeds shirt for a meaningful 
game then I'm done. Complete wank all of them.

Cheers

Mark
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Re: [LU] The season so far?

[MATTHEW GAYNOR]

I broadly agree and not sure the problem areas in the team are necessarily TC's 
fault.
Goalkeeper - We should have kept Green until we were certain that Felix was 
upto it (or not). But it does sound like Green threw a strop when not picked 
and difficult someone in that situation.
Left-Back - Embarrassing we don't have one - but I was expecting 
Borthwick-Jackson to be better than he has been - bit surprised he hasn't been 
given another chance.
Centre-Back - I thought Pennington was a good signing and he would be better 
than Cooper, but that's not proved to be the case and to be fair to Cooper he 
has been better than usual
Striker - I think the club tried to keep Wood. Lasogga is an odd one, his 
finishing is excellent but doesn't really work hard enough.  Ekuban looks to be 
the opposite. I'd give Ekuban a run for the time-being.
We need to be patient with TC, he does seem to be learning and constant changes 
hasn't exactly achieved a lot in recent years.
Matt 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
 To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2017, 16:48
 Subject: Re: [LU] The season so far?
   
I agree, pretty mixed so far but with a belief that we are going in the right 
directionIt is a shame we could not build on last season with Monk, Wood, 
Bartley, Green and Taylor. In some ways last season became a write off. Having 
said that and (this will no doubt make the anti Cellino people mad) we did get 
a lot a fans back due to the amazing 'play offs or money back' promotion.
I am not sure how successful it is at this level with the manager not picking 
the players to sign (a lot easier higher up the Leagues when you are buying 
good players) - the fact that Kiltch and Cibiski have not had a single look-in 
suggests that maybe TC did not choose them. I get that it is up to them to 
impress in training etc but neither have been given any sort of chance on the 
pitch
Saiz is an absolute breath of fresh air and I do like Alioski when he is doing 
well ( which he is at present) and like the fact that unlike Monk and his 
safety first attitude TC does seem to want to win each game and is willing to 
play these two and Hernandez in the same team
We do have problems - the keeper the obvious one- we do not seem to play to 
Lasoggas strengths, given the right service he is capable of out scoring Wood. 
TC is also reluctant to change the formation / shape of the team. The idea of 
Lasogga and Ekuban (or Roofe) as a geniune front two on occasion with Saiz 
pulling the strings behind them has got to be worth a try
I suppose it is a case of so far so good with plenty of room for improvement. 
What we need now is stability, so we can build on the foundations, not start 
every season with a new squad and a new manager
Radz does seem to have his finger on the pulse and is making a lot of right 
moves - certainly a step up after the bent Bates, the incompetent GFH and the 
unpredictable Cellino. Radz has a plan and seems to listen to what fans etc 
want. Not sure what money he has and where it is coming from (I do worry that 
he is a TV man and his ultimate aim is to get his hands on our TV money with 
new TV rights etc)
Looking forward to Friday night- a big test but one we are capable of 
overcoming. A good result should be a springboard to us getting back into the 
top six in the New Year (think Wolves will run away with the title)
Dave

      From: Tim Leslie <t...@3lv.uk>
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2017, 16:27
 Subject: [LU] The season so far?
  
After the unknown pre-season, the lightning start, the typical "wheels 
off just when we get excited" LUFC crash! then what seems like a 
recovery and an understanding of where we are. What are peoples thoughts 
on everything so far?

Personally, whilst some of the defeats have been pretty difficult to 
stomach and frustrating, we're just about where I hoped we would be. 
Obviously higher would be nicer, but in touch of the play-offs with a 
load of new players and an untried manager, is OK.

What is VERY positive is the reconnection between the club and the fans 
and the local community, Radrizanni (for me) has still to put a foot 
wrong. Now buying up Matthew Murray School to develop an even better 
training facility, close to the ground and benefitting the Leeds 
community is another masterstroke.

I like Christianson. I HOPE he is learning and I really want him to 
succeed, dunno why, but I have warmed to him and like what he's TRYING 
to achieve.

As I think we ALL know, we're three players short of being bloody good 
for this league, most important of which is a goal keeper. Quite who, I 
have no idea, but he has to dominate that area and control his defence, 
thus bringing the best out of them. Managers have to surely understand 
that not all keepers are Manuel Neuer and a commanding, hungry keeper 
who can play a little bit should suffice!

Any thoughts? Anyo

Re: [LU] The season so far?

[nat...@sky.com]

I agree, pretty mixed so far but with a belief that we are going in the right 
directionIt is a shame we could not build on last season with Monk, Wood, 
Bartley, Green and Taylor. In some ways last season became a write off. Having 
said that and (this will no doubt make the anti Cellino people mad) we did get 
a lot a fans back due to the amazing 'play offs or money back' promotion.
I am not sure how successful it is at this level with the manager not picking 
the players to sign (a lot easier higher up the Leagues when you are buying 
good players) - the fact that Kiltch and Cibiski have not had a single look-in 
suggests that maybe TC did not choose them. I get that it is up to them to 
impress in training etc but neither have been given any sort of chance on the 
pitch
Saiz is an absolute breath of fresh air and I do like Alioski when he is doing 
well ( which he is at present) and like the fact that unlike Monk and his 
safety first attitude TC does seem to want to win each game and is willing to 
play these two and Hernandez in the same team
We do have problems - the keeper the obvious one- we do not seem to play to 
Lasoggas strengths, given the right service he is capable of out scoring Wood. 
TC is also reluctant to change the formation / shape of the team. The idea of 
Lasogga and Ekuban (or Roofe) as a geniune front two on occasion with Saiz 
pulling the strings behind them has got to be worth a try
I suppose it is a case of so far so good with plenty of room for improvement. 
What we need now is stability, so we can build on the foundations, not start 
every season with a new squad and a new manager
Radz does seem to have his finger on the pulse and is making a lot of right 
moves - certainly a step up after the bent Bates, the incompetent GFH and the 
unpredictable Cellino. Radz has a plan and seems to listen to what fans etc 
want. Not sure what money he has and where it is coming from (I do worry that 
he is a TV man and his ultimate aim is to get his hands on our TV money with 
new TV rights etc)
Looking forward to Friday night- a big test but one we are capable of 
overcoming. A good result should be a springboard to us getting back into the 
top six in the New Year (think Wolves will run away with the title)
Dave

  From: Tim Leslie <t...@3lv.uk>
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2017, 16:27
 Subject: [LU] The season so far?
   
After the unknown pre-season, the lightning start, the typical "wheels 
off just when we get excited" LUFC crash! then what seems like a 
recovery and an understanding of where we are. What are peoples thoughts 
on everything so far?

Personally, whilst some of the defeats have been pretty difficult to 
stomach and frustrating, we're just about where I hoped we would be. 
Obviously higher would be nicer, but in touch of the play-offs with a 
load of new players and an untried manager, is OK.

What is VERY positive is the reconnection between the club and the fans 
and the local community, Radrizanni (for me) has still to put a foot 
wrong. Now buying up Matthew Murray School to develop an even better 
training facility, close to the ground and benefitting the Leeds 
community is another masterstroke.

I like Christianson. I HOPE he is learning and I really want him to 
succeed, dunno why, but I have warmed to him and like what he's TRYING 
to achieve.

As I think we ALL know, we're three players short of being bloody good 
for this league, most important of which is a goal keeper. Quite who, I 
have no idea, but he has to dominate that area and control his defence, 
thus bringing the best out of them. Managers have to surely understand 
that not all keepers are Manuel Neuer and a commanding, hungry keeper 
who can play a little bit should suffice!

Any thoughts? Anyone bothered?

StigOfTheFairlyHappyDump
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[LU] The season so far?

[Tim Leslie]

After the unknown pre-season, the lightning start, the typical "wheels 
off just when we get excited" LUFC crash! then what seems like a 
recovery and an understanding of where we are. What are peoples thoughts 
on everything so far?


Personally, whilst some of the defeats have been pretty difficult to 
stomach and frustrating, we're just about where I hoped we would be. 
Obviously higher would be nicer, but in touch of the play-offs with a 
load of new players and an untried manager, is OK.


What is VERY positive is the reconnection between the club and the fans 
and the local community, Radrizanni (for me) has still to put a foot 
wrong. Now buying up Matthew Murray School to develop an even better 
training facility, close to the ground and benefitting the Leeds 
community is another masterstroke.


I like Christianson. I HOPE he is learning and I really want him to 
succeed, dunno why, but I have warmed to him and like what he's TRYING 
to achieve.


As I think we ALL know, we're three players short of being bloody good 
for this league, most important of which is a goal keeper. Quite who, I 
have no idea, but he has to dominate that area and control his defence, 
thus bringing the best out of them. Managers have to surely understand 
that not all keepers are Manuel Neuer and a commanding, hungry keeper 
who can play a little bit should suffice!


Any thoughts? Anyone bothered?

StigOfTheFairlyHappyDump
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Re: [LU] Last season versus this season

[dave.tomlinson]

More like W1 D1 L4


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 Original message From: "{broken-address} James A. Lundon @ 
Yahoo!" <jameslun...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> Date: 11/09/2017  15:42  
(GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: [LU] Last season 
versus this season 
Did we start 1W-4D-1L (7 points) last season?  This season is 4-2-0 (14).
Fourteen points closer to safety and not even mid-September yet ;-).
James.
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Re: [LU] Last season versus this season

[David W]

We weren't that good!

W1-D1-L4  - 4 points.

So we're 10 points up!

But 6 games in was the turning point last season.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:42 PM, {broken-address} James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! <
jameslun...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Did we start 1W-4D-1L (7 points) last season?  This season is 4-2-0 (14).
> Fourteen points closer to safety and not even mid-September yet ;-).
> James.
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[{broken-address} James A. Lundon @ Yahoo!]

Did we start 1W-4D-1L (7 points) last season?  This season is 4-2-0 (14).
Fourteen points closer to safety and not even mid-September yet ;-).
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[LU] 15k Season tickets sold already.

[Richard Naef]

...high expectations for next season.

ttfn

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Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[nat...@sky.com]

It is 25% of what he paid- but 25% after various tax and Football league levy 
has been taken offI think my son is expecting £87 - he paid £445 for Revie Stand
Dave


  From: Graham Farr <graham.f...@yara.com>
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Friday, 5 May 2017, 10:55
 Subject: Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?
   
My mate (and his lad) reckons he has about 200 quid due back ?
Is that right ?

He has told LUFC to keep it.(does own his own firm tho) !

Cheers
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Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[Ted]

I'll be accepting the refund - I've renewed my current one so I'll see the
refund as a "loyalty discount"!!


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Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[nat...@sky.com]

The lads I know are all accepting the cash without any problem - to be fair 
they have also renewed their ST for next season.Dave(us 20 yr ST holders were 
mentioned in the original offer as not being eligible for a refund)

  From: David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Friday, 5 May 2017, 10:52
 Subject: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?
   
I read that the club is preparing to keep its promise to make refunds to
season ticket holders for not making the play offs. Sadly, it's a double
edged sword what with the disappointment of not making the top 6 coupled
with the financial loss of having to make the refunds. 

 

I'm not a season ticket holder, but I'd be interested to know how many,  who
are,  will be accepting or applying. It's rumoured that it'll cost the club
about £1M - not a huge sum in the football world, but money that could go
towards strengthening the playing squad. 

 

Perhaps everyone involved will happily accept the funds back and think
"Tough luck MC,  you shouldn't have made the promise and now it's time to
pay up"

 

Alternatively, the money could be used, for example,  to pay for a more
attractive package to sign up Monk or his replacement and push for success
next season. 

 

What do you think?

 

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Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[Matt Anderson]

It will probably just be used to fund a court case.

Sent from my iPad

> On 5 May 2017, at 10:51, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> I read that the club is preparing to keep its promise to make refunds to
> season ticket holders for not making the play offs. Sadly, it's a double
> edged sword what with the disappointment of not making the top 6 coupled
> with the financial loss of having to make the refunds. 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not a season ticket holder, but I'd be interested to know how many,  who
> are,  will be accepting or applying. It's rumoured that it'll cost the club
> about £1M - not a huge sum in the football world, but money that could go
> towards strengthening the playing squad. 
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps everyone involved will happily accept the funds back and think
> "Tough luck MC,  you shouldn't have made the promise and now it's time to
> pay up"
> 
> 
> 
> Alternatively, the money could be used, for example,  to pay for a more
> attractive package to sign up Monk or his replacement and push for success
> next season. 
> 
> 
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[Graham Farr]

My mate (and his lad) reckons he has about 200 quid due back ?
Is that right ?

He has told LUFC to keep it.(does own his own firm tho) !

Cheers
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[LU] LU Season Tickets Part Refund?

[David Smail]

I read that the club is preparing to keep its promise to make refunds to
season ticket holders for not making the play offs. Sadly, it's a double
edged sword what with the disappointment of not making the top 6 coupled
with the financial loss of having to make the refunds. 

 

I'm not a season ticket holder, but I'd be interested to know how many,  who
are,  will be accepting or applying. It's rumoured that it'll cost the club
about £1M - not a huge sum in the football world, but money that could go
towards strengthening the playing squad. 

 

Perhaps everyone involved will happily accept the funds back and think
"Tough luck MC,  you shouldn't have made the promise and now it's time to
pay up"

 

Alternatively, the money could be used, for example,  to pay for a more
attractive package to sign up Monk or his replacement and push for success
next season. 

 

What do you think?

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] This Season

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Shite first half, Roofe is shit, Howson should be our first Summer singing

Monk deserves another season although I think he may be limited in his thinking 

Get Janson, batley , beradi , Ayling and Parker signed up and all will be will. 
Green sorted.

Pissed, boxing fantastic - Joshua more of a frank Bruno for me rTher Tegan hero 
- fighting a 41 yeR old. FFS 



On Sat, 29/4/17, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
 To: "Simon McNally" <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
 Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Date: Saturday, 29 April, 2017, 18:06
 
 Glenn Murray can't hack it in
 the premiership so let's give him a contract, fancy tom
 ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner
 for that matter)
 
 Sent from
 my Mobile
 
  Original Message
 ----
 Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
 From: Simon McNally
 To: Richard
 Naef
 CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
 
 It's a shame the last few
 weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good
 season.
 Where do we need to improve?
 I think we need another striker and more
 experience in midfield
 
 Simon
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 
 > On 29
 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
 wrote:
 >
 > Ultimately
 a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of
 any of our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson,
 Bartley, and most importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend
 the summer getting himself fit and able to stay on his feet
 and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to decide if
 he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid. 
 Barrow and Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to
 wherever they came from.
 >
 > Then on top of that some serious
 investment in players from Cellino, it can't be done on
 the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
 >
 > ttfn
 >
 > Richard
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Tim Whelan]

According to my calculations, if be beat Wigan next week we will end up with a 
points total that would have been good enough to have made the play-offs in 9 
of the last 10 seasons. It's just that this season there was a bit of a gap 
below the top 7, so by definition one team had to miss out with a relatively 
big points total.
Tim W.
 

On Saturday, 29 April 2017, 19:30, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
 

 I'd love to see someone have a whole career at Leeds.
: )

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Simon McNally 
<simon_mcna...@sky.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 8:14:34 PM
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] This Season

I'd love to see howson back. I'm sure Milner would love to finish his career at 
Leeds

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 18:06, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>
> Glenn Murray can't hack it in the premiership so let's give him a contract, 
> fancy tom ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner for 
> that matter)
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
> From: Simon McNally
> To: Richard Naef
> CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
>
> It's a shame the last few weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good 
> season.
> Where do we need to improve?
> I think we need another striker and more experience in midfield
>
> Simon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any 
> > of our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
> > importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and 
> > able to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to 
> > decide if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and 
> > Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.
> >
> > Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it 
> > can't be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > Richard
> >
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Michael Benjamin]

I'd love to see someone have a whole career at Leeds.
: )

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Simon McNally 
<simon_mcna...@sky.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 8:14:34 PM
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] This Season

I'd love to see howson back. I'm sure Milner would love to finish his career at 
Leeds

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 18:06, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>
> Glenn Murray can't hack it in the premiership so let's give him a contract, 
> fancy tom ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner for 
> that matter)
>
> Sent from my Mobile
>
> -------- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
> From: Simon McNally
> To: Richard Naef
> CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
>
> It's a shame the last few weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good 
> season.
> Where do we need to improve?
> I think we need another striker and more experience in midfield
>
> Simon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any 
> > of our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
> > importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and 
> > able to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to 
> > decide if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and 
> > Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.
> >
> > Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it 
> > can't be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > Richard
> >
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Simon McNally]

I'd love to see howson back. I'm sure Milner would love to finish his career at 
Leeds 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 18:06, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> Glenn Murray can't hack it in the premiership so let's give him a contract, 
> fancy tom ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner for 
> that matter)
> 
> Sent from my Mobile
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
> From: Simon McNally 
> To: Richard Naef 
> CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
> 
> It's a shame the last few weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good 
> season.
> Where do we need to improve?
> I think we need another striker and more experience in midfield
> 
> Simon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any 
> > of our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
> > importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and 
> > able to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to 
> > decide if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and 
> > Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.
> > 
> > Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it 
> > can't be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
> > 
> > ttfn
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Richard Naef]

Glenn Murray can't hack it in the premiership so let's give him a contract, 
fancy tom ince and maybe see if howson is up for a return (and milner for that 
matter)

Sent from my Mobile

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [LU] This Season
From: Simon McNally
To: Richard Naef
CC: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"

It's a shame the last few weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good 
season.
Where do we need to improve?
I think we need another striker and more experience in midfield

Simon

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>
> Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any of 
> our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
> importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and 
> able to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to 
> decide if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and 
> Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.
>
> Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it can't 
> be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Simon McNally]

It's a shame the last few weeks have taken the gloss off what has been a good 
season.
Where do we need to improve?
I think we need another striker and more experience in midfield

Simon

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:32, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any of 
> our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
> importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and 
> able to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to 
> decide if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and 
> Pedrasa can get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.
> 
> Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it can't 
> be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
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Re: [LU] This Season

[Michael Benjamin]

Cellino?
He is no part of any solution.  Anyway,  hopefully , he goes in June.
Michael

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:32:29 PM
To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'
Subject: [LU] This Season

Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any of 
our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and able 
to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to decide 
if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and Pedrasa can 
get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.

Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it can't 
be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.

ttfn

Richard

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[LU] This Season

[Richard Naef]

Ultimately a disappointing last 3 weeks, but overall at the top end of any of 
our expectations.  Hopefully we can sign up Jannson, Bartley, and most 
importantly Monk.  Roofe needs to spend the summer getting himself fit and able 
to stay on his feet and justify the money we paid and Hernandez has to decide 
if he's willing to perform every match, if not get rid.  Barrow and Pedrasa can 
get back on the next flight to wherever they came from.

Then on top of that some serious investment in players from Cellino, it can't 
be done on the cheap, so we are talking 10M+.

ttfn

Richard

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[LU] Half Season Tickets

[Phill Shields]

A mate of mine is looking to buy one. These are usually announced by now, 
looking like Leeds are not going to do one this season.


Anyone heard anything please?


MOY
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[LU] Pre season games

[Matt Anderson]

Have we got a tour this year?? 

Thought there was an announcement  but I can find it anywhere 

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[LU] pre-season tournament announced

[David W]

Should be a good one!

23-24 July, tournament with PSV, Leeds, Newcastle and Corby Town!

Being played at Corby. We play against PSV and Corby.

Tickets now on sale via Corby town website. Imagine it will sell out with
Leeds and Toon fans.
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Re: [LU] Next season

[Richard Walker]

Also I think a lot of hesitancy at set pieces comes from the keeper. Yes, good 
shot stopper but in this league it's all about commanding your area and giving 
confidence to the back four. Silvestri doesn't give this.

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> Agree about antenucci in that he could be good. I've just seen him look 
> disinterested too many times this season. Properly motivated he would be good 
> but I don't see it. I think the smart money is on him going back to Italy 
> when his contract is up.
> For me silvestri is at best an average championship goalie 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you're wrong about Silvestri, Bellusci and Antenucci...not because 
>> I'm particularly pro-Italian...but because Silvestri, is a good championship 
>> keeper, I think we're all judging him next to Martyn etc...Bellusci, is a 
>> nightmare, but we have a better record with home than without him...and 
>> Antenucci is quality, he just needs similar quality alongside him (neither 
>> Woods nor Doukara fit that bill) and goals will come.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 16:52, Simon McNally  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
>>> around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty 
>>> much done. 
>>> Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll 
>>> happen.
>>> Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money 
>>> for new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What 
>>> formation would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you 
>>> strengthen?
>>> I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the 
>>> quality in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid 
>>> I'd go 4312 or 4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in 
>>> the cold though.
>>> If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
>>> defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at 
>>> least one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is 
>>> pace so I'd be looking for that.
>>> I'd get rid of : 
>>> Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
>>> performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. 
>>> Mowatt needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star 
>>> or just a one paced player with a sweet left foot.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Next season

[Richard Walker]

Antenucci was absolutely shite against Town. 

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:27, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> Agree about antenucci in that he could be good. I've just seen him look 
> disinterested too many times this season. Properly motivated he would be good 
> but I don't see it. I think the smart money is on him going back to Italy 
> when his contract is up.
> For me silvestri is at best an average championship goalie 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you're wrong about Silvestri, Bellusci and Antenucci...not because 
>> I'm particularly pro-Italian...but because Silvestri, is a good championship 
>> keeper, I think we're all judging him next to Martyn etc...Bellusci, is a 
>> nightmare, but we have a better record with home than without him...and 
>> Antenucci is quality, he just needs similar quality alongside him (neither 
>> Woods nor Doukara fit that bill) and goals will come.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 16:52, Simon McNally  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
>>> around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty 
>>> much done. 
>>> Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll 
>>> happen.
>>> Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money 
>>> for new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What 
>>> formation would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you 
>>> strengthen?
>>> I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the 
>>> quality in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid 
>>> I'd go 4312 or 4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in 
>>> the cold though.
>>> If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
>>> defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at 
>>> least one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is 
>>> pace so I'd be looking for that.
>>> I'd get rid of : 
>>> Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
>>> performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. 
>>> Mowatt needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star 
>>> or just a one paced player with a sweet left foot.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Next season

[Simon McNally]

Agree about antenucci in that he could be good. I've just seen him look 
disinterested too many times this season. Properly motivated he would be good 
but I don't see it. I think the smart money is on him going back to Italy when 
his contract is up.
For me silvestri is at best an average championship goalie 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> I think you're wrong about Silvestri, Bellusci and Antenucci...not because 
> I'm particularly pro-Italian...but because Silvestri, is a good championship 
> keeper, I think we're all judging him next to Martyn etc...Bellusci, is a 
> nightmare, but we have a better record with home than without him...and 
> Antenucci is quality, he just needs similar quality alongside him (neither 
> Woods nor Doukara fit that bill) and goals will come.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 16:52, Simon McNally  wrote:
>> 
>> Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
>> around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty 
>> much done. 
>> Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll 
>> happen.
>> Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money 
>> for new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What 
>> formation would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you 
>> strengthen?
>> I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the 
>> quality in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid I'd 
>> go 4312 or 4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in the 
>> cold though.
>> If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
>> defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at least 
>> one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is pace so 
>> I'd be looking for that.
>> I'd get rid of : 
>> Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
>> performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. 
>> Mowatt needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star or 
>> just a one paced player with a sweet left foot.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
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Re: [LU] Next season

[Richard Naef]

I have no optimism that next season will be better than this unless someone
invests 10M-15M in the team.  Unless that happens as Bridcutt is on
Premiership wages I doubt we can afford him, we've done him a favour getting
him back in the sweaty's team so he'll be looking to get back to the
premiership I reckon.  I'd want to keep Dallas, as I think in a decent team
he would shine.  I have a soft spot for Mowatt and would like to see him
given another chance.  

I doubt Antenucci would stay unless he has a guarantee of more games, but
he's a good 2nd choice striker and Doukara is a squad player at best.
Berardi is a decent player, but I hope Coyne will soon be first choice.

Keep Cook and Wood, give Botaka a chance to show what he can do.

Silvestri and Cooper can stay unless we can get better in. 

We need strength in depth, rather than just one player per position.

I have no optimism that next season will be better than this unless someone
invests 10M-15M in the team.

> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
> On Behalf Of Simon McNally
> Sent: 22 March 2016 16:52
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Next season
> 
> Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is
> around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty
> much done.
> Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll
> happen.
> Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money
> for new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What
> formation would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you
> strengthen?
> I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the
quality
> in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid I'd go
4312
> or 4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in the cold
> though.
> If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central
> defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at
least
> one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is pace so
> I'd be looking for that.
> I'd get rid of :
> Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst
> performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least.
> Mowatt needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star
> or just a one paced player with a sweet left foot.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Simon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Next season

[Simon McNally]

My issue with silvestri is that he is appalling at commanding his area and 
claiming crosses. I agree that he is a good shot stopper but isn't that his 
job? He has cost us a number of goals simply because he doesn't claim crosses, 
especially from corners. He also hesitates when balls are played through behind 
the back four. I think he must be a nightmare to play in front of. I just don't 
see him as the goalie in a promotion chasing team.
Bellusci is an injury faking twat who , if rumours are to be believed, is not a 
very positive influence in the dressing room.
I worry for Mowatt. He's on danger of treading the same path as mcphail, Murphy 
etc before him.

Simon 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 17:15, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Sylvestri is a decent championship goalie and his shot stopping skills are of 
> a higher standard. Bellusci has been one of our better defenders. 
> 
> Bamba has been a big disappointment as has Mowatt I am afraid. I would keep 
> Antenucci. The rest I agree especially Wooton .
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
> Subject: [LU] Next season
> 
> Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
> around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty much 
> done. 
> Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll 
> happen.
> Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money for 
> new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What formation 
> would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you strengthen?
> I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the quality 
> in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid I'd go 4312 
> or 4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in the cold 
> though.
> If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
> defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at least 
> one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is pace so I'd 
> be looking for that.
> I'd get rid of : 
> Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
> performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. 
> Mowatt needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star or 
> just a one paced player with a sweet left foot.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Simon
> 
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Re: [LU] Next season

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Sylvestri is a decent championship goalie and his shot stopping skills are of a 
higher standard. Bellusci has been one of our better defenders. 
Bamba has been a big disappointment as has Mowatt I am afraid. I would keep 
Antenucci. The rest I agree especially Wooton .
Nick

  From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
 Subject: [LU] Next season
   
Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty much 
done. 
Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll happen.
Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money for 
new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What formation 
would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you strengthen?
I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the quality 
in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid I'd go 4312 or 
4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in the cold though.
If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at least 
one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is pace so I'd 
be looking for that.
I'd get rid of : 
Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. Mowatt 
needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star or just a 
one paced player with a sweet left foot.

Thoughts?

Simon

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[LU] Next season

[Simon McNally]

Been talking to fellow Leeds fans at work and most of the conversation is 
around what we want to see next season, seeing as how this one is pretty much 
done. 
Top of my list would be new owner and coach but I'm not confident it'll happen.
Assuming Cellino and Evans are still at the club and Evans gets the money for 
new players he seems to think he'll get, what would you do? What formation 
would you play , who would you get rid of and where would you strengthen?
I would favour a two striker formation but I'm not sure we've got the quality 
in centre mid to play 442 so unless we sign a quality centre mid I'd go 4312 or 
4132. That kind of leaves Dallas , botaka and caryol out in the cold though.
If I had free rein and enough resources , I'd sign a new keeper, central 
defenders, at least one quality centre mid - bridcutt certainly and at least 
one more decent striker. One thing we lack throughout the team is pace so I'd 
be looking for that.
I'd get rid of : 
Silvestri, bellusci, maybe bamba - he's played in some of our worst 
performances, wootton, Murphy, doukara and antenucci at the very least. Mowatt 
needs to have a good season to show whether he is a potential star or just a 
one paced player with a sweet left foot.

Thoughts?

Simon

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[LU] New season....new chants

[Graham Farr]

Further to my post of 20th JuneI got the Madonna lyrics wrong



To Madonna

Hockaday
Relegate..come onlet's relegate

That's more like it

cheers




As it's the holiday season..


To Boney M

HoorayHooray.It's David Hockaday...


To Madonna

Hockaday
Celebrate..come onlet's celebrate


To Cliff Richard

We're all marching on with..David Hockaday
No more winning for a.year or two
Tears and laughter with.David Hockaday
On our way to League Two...oooooo
In a year or two

Bored today..

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[LU] New season....new chants

[Graham Farr]

As it's the holiday season..


To Boney M

HoorayHooray.It's David Hockaday...


To Madonna

Hockaday
Celebrate..come onlet's celebrate


To Cliff Richard

We're all marching on with..David Hockaday
No more winning for a.year or two
Tears and laughter with.David Hockaday
On our way to League Two...oooooo
In a year or two

Bored today..

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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Michael ALCOCK]

Got my tickets today. (There are a couple of hundred on general sale).
Plan to leave work early and get to Our Mutual Friend for
5.30-6.00ish.

Be good to see some Listers.

Mike A

 Nearest pub is Our Mutual Friend, Broadwater Crescent.  Usually has 6
 real ales on and regular finalist for CAMRA North Herts pub of the year.
 One of the few places dahn sarf where you get lined pint pots.  Only
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[LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Graham White]

Actual football stuff now!

The local press has announced this but can't find anything on Officious 
website.  Anyone know which team this is likely to be?

If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give you 
info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but the best 
pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).

Cheers

Graham White
Stevenage Whites
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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Michael ALCOCK]

Graham,

I'm definitely going to this - pub recommendations welcome. And thanks
for the tip that the Lamex is dry.

Mike
(ex Rothwell White, ex London White, now Hitchin White).

 If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
 you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
 the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).
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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[swinnow]

On 05/06/2013 10:58, Michael ALCOCK wrote:

Graham,

I'm definitely going to this - pub recommendations welcome. And thanks
for the tip that the Lamex is dry.



I'm going to this with my knickle dragging outlaws.  List meet anyone?

betty

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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Richard Naef]

I'm going to this with my knickle dragging outlaws.  List meet anyone?


ah, knickle dragging, that brings back many painful and messy memories, I
thought I was illegal outside of Scotland nowadays?

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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[MATTHEW GAYNOR]

Only time i went there - there was a supporters club around the back of the 
ground - assume this is shut now then (or home fans only)

I assumed the nearest decent pub to Stevenage's ground would be in Hitchin

Matt




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Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:58
Subject: Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45
 

Graham,

I'm definitely going to this - pub recommendations welcome. And thanks
for the tip that the Lamex is dry.

Mike
(ex Rothwell White, ex London White, now Hitchin White).

 If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
 you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
 the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).
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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

I'll be in the UK at the end of September. When's the season start?
When ate the fixtures published?
On Jun 5, 2013 12:49 PM, Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Actual football stuff now!

 The local press has announced this but can't find anything on Officious
 website.  Anyone know which team this is likely to be?

 If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
 you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
 the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).

 Cheers

 Graham White
 Stevenage Whites
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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Chris Briggs]

The teams we meet in the relegation dogfight will be announced on 19th June.

On 5 Jun 2013, at 11:39, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:

 I'll be in the UK at the end of September. When's the season start?
 When ate the fixtures published?
 On Jun 5, 2013 12:49 PM, Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Actual football stuff now!
 
 The local press has announced this but can't find anything on Officious
 website.  Anyone know which team this is likely to be?
 
 If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
 you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
 the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).
 
 Cheers
 
 Graham White
 Stevenage Whites
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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Graham White]

Nearest pub is Our Mutual Friend, Broadwater Crescent.  Usually has 6 real 
ales on and regular finalist for CAMRA North Herts pub of the year.  One of the 
few places dahn sarf where you get lined pint pots.  Only drawback is local 
plod force them to use plastic glasses on match days.

Cheers

Graham White

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From: MATTHEW GAYNOR matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45
To: Michael ALCOCK mikel...@googlemail.com, Graham White 
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Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 June, 2013, 11:29

Only time i went there - there was a supporters club around the back of the 
ground - assume this is shut now then (or home fans only)
I assumed the nearest decent pub to Stevenage's ground would be in Hitchin
Matt

From: Michael ALCOCK mikel...@googlemail.com
 To: Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45
   
Graham,

I'm definitely going to this - pub recommendations
 welcome. And thanks
for the tip that the Lamex is dry.

Mike
(ex Rothwell White, ex London White, now Hitchin White).

 If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
 you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
 the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).


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Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45

[Mike Alcock]

Great tip. Thank you. Will probably head there on the day. Might try and get 
the afternoon of work too.

As for pubs in Hitchin I've been underwhelmed by the pubs since moving here to 
be honest. Mind you I am a miserable sod.

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Jun 2013, at 12:57, Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Nearest pub is Our Mutual Friend, Broadwater Crescent.  Usually has 6 real 
 ales on and regular finalist for CAMRA North Herts pub of the year.  One of 
 the few places dahn sarf where you get lined pint pots.  Only drawback is 
 local plod force them to use plastic glasses on match days.
 
 Cheers
 
 Graham White
 
 --- On Wed, 5/6/13, MATTHEW GAYNOR matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com wrote:
 
 From: MATTHEW GAYNOR matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com
 Subject: Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45
 To: Michael ALCOCK mikel...@googlemail.com, Graham White 
 gcwhite2...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Date: Wednesday, 5 June, 2013, 11:29
 
 Only time i went there - there was a supporters club around the back of the 
 ground - assume this is shut now then (or home fans only)
 
 I assumed the nearest decent pub to Stevenage's ground would be in Hitchin
 
 Matt
 
 From: Michael ALCOCK mikel...@googlemail.com
 To: Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com 
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 10:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Pre-season friendly v. Stevenage July 23rd. KO 7:45
 
 Graham,
 
 I'm definitely going to this - pub recommendations welcome. And thanks
 for the tip that the Lamex is dry.
 
 Mike
 (ex Rothwell White, ex London White, now Hitchin White).
 
  If anyone is coming to see this can arrange to meet up for a pint, or give
  you info on decent pubs.  Be aware the Lamex Stadium is a dry ground (but
  the best pub in Stevenage is 5 mins walk away).
 
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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[Ian Murray]

Agree 100%

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Aug 2012, at 14:07, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season. I think a lot 
 of it is that there are hardly any players left who have played for Leeds 
 since the League 1 days. Yes I know most of you will say that that is a good 
 thing, but the loss (over time) of Beckford, Kilkenny, Howson, Johnson, 
 Gradel, Clayton and now Snodgrass leaves me trying to root for a team whose 
 players I know barely anything about.
 
 Yes the team comes first and all that, but still. It's a strange feeling.
 
 Nick
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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[Andrew Ewart]

Don't worry lads, I'm sure within a few weeks we'll know all about their
strengths and weaknessor how great/crap they are :-)

AndyE


On 7 August 2012 20:24, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Agree 100%

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 7 Aug 2012, at 14:07, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season. I think a
 lot of it is that there are hardly any players left who have played for
 Leeds since the League 1 days. Yes I know most of you will say that that is
 a good thing, but the loss (over time) of Beckford, Kilkenny, Howson,
 Johnson, Gradel, Clayton and now Snodgrass leaves me trying to root for a
 team whose players I know barely anything about.
 
  Yes the team comes first and all that, but still. It's a strange feeling.
 
  Nick

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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[Michael ALCOCK]

 I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season.

Don't worry - by not renewing my season ticket this year I've single
handedly guaranteed us promotion.

You're all welcome.

Mike
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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[DAVID NATTAN]

I know what you mean but we are a bit used to it - remember the Blackwell. 
'only me and Gary Kelly' season' Plus the minus 15 season when we were not even 
sure we would exist and all. the new players that year. More recently we have 
had huge turn over of players with loads of short term loanees as well.
The days of being able to name the whole team and it being almost the same year 
after year have long gone
We do have White and Lees as local. lads who been here a while, plus Ross 
McCormack  and the returning Andy Gray 

To top it all. we have our longest serving player (?) -ladies, gents and Rich 
Walker I give you   the one and only Luciano Becchio !!

Dave




 From: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 14:07
Subject: [LU] Upcoming season
 
I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season. I think a lot of 
it is that there are hardly any players left who have played for Leeds since 
the League 1 days. Yes I know most of you will say that that is a good thing, 
but the loss (over time) of Beckford, Kilkenny, Howson, Johnson, Gradel, 
Clayton and now Snodgrass leaves me trying to root for a team whose players I 
know barely anything about.

Yes the team comes first and all that, but still. It's a strange feeling.

Nick
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[LU] Upcoming season

[Sutton / Smail]

Who's going to provide that matching winning moment of brilliance now that 
Snod's is gone?  Of courseBeccio!
All we can do is trust Warnock although I can't see much more than another 
mid - table conclusion. Hope I'm wrong!


Dave


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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[Richard Walker]

Don't get me depressed Dave, I'm happy and optimistic as always pre-season.

I've donated my £10 to the list today, I am coming back to the list for match 
reports.

But if Colin goes with Becchio as his main striker I will have another hissy 
fit and throw my toys out of the pram ( again). The bloke can't play footy.

Are we getting Humphries back ? I hate the twat but we did leave the list 
together and I feel a bit of a fraud coming back without him. Can someone send 
him a msg ?

Sent from my iPad

On 7 Aug 2012, at 17:04, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I know what you mean but we are a bit used to it - remember the Blackwell. 
 'only me and Gary Kelly' season' Plus the minus 15 season when we were not 
 even sure we would exist and all. the new players that year. More recently we 
 have had huge turn over of players with loads of short term loanees as well.
 The days of being able to name the whole team and it being almost the same 
 year after year have long gone
 We do have White and Lees as local. lads who been here a while, plus Ross 
 McCormack  and the returning Andy Gray 
 
 To top it all. we have our longest serving player (?) -ladies, gents and Rich 
 Walker I give you   the one and only Luciano Becchio !!
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 From: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 14:07
 Subject: [LU] Upcoming season
 
 I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season. I think a lot 
 of it is that there are hardly any players left who have played for Leeds 
 since the League 1 days. Yes I know most of you will say that that is a good 
 thing, but the loss (over time) of Beckford, Kilkenny, Howson, Johnson, 
 Gradel, Clayton and now Snodgrass leaves me trying to root for a team whose 
 players I know barely anything about.
 
 Yes the team comes first and all that, but still. It's a strange feeling.
 
 Nick
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Re: [LU] Upcoming season

[brendan_mcwilliams]

I feel the same - not looking forward to all the manically checking the phone 
every 5 mins up to 1755 CET (or worse checking #twitterwhites constantly) , 
then having my hopes dashed AGAIN.

Another part of the footy fatigue this time around is the fact that the 
Olympics have been spectacular (I doff (doth?) my cap to GB, truly stunning, 
even for this biased observer) and a GREAT European Championship was only a 
month ago.

Plus, when you compare the Olympic athletes with the shower of overpaid c**ts 
in footy...

All of the friendlies I ignore completely but IN SAYING THAT, NW is the 
promotion king in this division and you have to trust him - even if not the 
prettiest.

Hope springs eternal

Greetings from a hot Madrid.

BMW

PS Good to know both Richard Walker - along with David Natton - is back with 
the unmissable match reports.


Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Don't get me depressed Dave, I'm happy and optimistic as always pre-season.

I've donated my £10 to the list today, I am coming back to the list for match 
reports.

But if Colin goes with Becchio as his main striker I will have another hissy 
fit and throw my toys out of the pram ( again). The bloke can't play footy.

Are we getting Humphries back ? I hate the twat but we did leave the list 
together and I feel a bit of a fraud coming back without him. Can someone send 
him a msg ?

Sent from my iPad

On 7 Aug 2012, at 17:04, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I know what you mean but we are a bit used to it - remember the Blackwell. 
 'only me and Gary Kelly' season' Plus the minus 15 season when we were not 
 even sure we would exist and all. the new players that year. More recently we 
 have had huge turn over of players with loads of short term loanees as well.
 The days of being able to name the whole team and it being almost the same 
 year after year have long gone
 We do have White and Lees as local. lads who been here a while, plus Ross 
 McCormack  and the returning Andy Gray

 To top it all. we have our longest serving player (?) -ladies, gents and Rich 
 Walker I give you   the one and only Luciano Becchio !!

 Dave



 
 From: Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 14:07
 Subject: [LU] Upcoming season

 I am feeling strangely non-plussed about the upcoming season. I think a lot 
 of it is that there are hardly any players left who have played for Leeds 
 since the League 1 days. Yes I know most of you will say that that is a good 
 thing, but the loss (over time) of Beckford, Kilkenny, Howson, Johnson, 
 Gradel, Clayton and now Snodgrass leaves me trying to root for a team whose 
 players I know barely anything about.

 Yes the team comes first and all that, but still. It's a strange feeling.

 Nick
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[LU] This season

[Alec McQueen]

So, how did your predictions go this season?

At the start of this season I said that we would spend nothing, do nothing
in the cups and finish 14th.

Best prediction year I have ever had.

However, I didn't predict that we would sack the best young manager we have
had for a while. I didn't like it when it happened, and I like it even less
now. Utter madness, and it was all because SG was getting bolshy in the
media about lack of resources, which we all bloody agree with. Unless there
is some investment soon, we could be relegated next year. I bet our 3 best
players will be sold this summer, with a few frees coming in. I fcking hope
not, but I am very pessimistic while the bearded twat is still alive.

How much is his pension fund up to now?

When's the funeral?



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Re: [LU] This season

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Alec
I agree with a lot of things. I think that SG failed but that may well not
be the reason he was sacked.
I do also think that the gloss on Colin is fading fast.
I cannot see money being spent. Just enough to say that it was but nowhere
near what the war chest is supposed to contain or we really need.
I hope for Snoddy's sake that he goes. I'd hate to think that he was conned
into taking a chance with two chancers.
As bad as the MS is alive is his death will plunge us into absolute chaos
and abject disaster. Which I predict we will not survive. The only sure
thing is that there will be a lot of screwing going on: him into the ground
as he's so crooked, us as always and a lot of fellow erstwhile partners in
scewdom who will find themselves with a post mortem screwing from
the malevolent stoat. +
Do you really believe this twat will leave his affairs in order?
What reason do you have ?
Michael


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On 28 April 2012 23:59, Alec McQueen alec...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, how did your predictions go this season?

 At the start of this season I said that we would spend nothing, do nothing
 in the cups and finish 14th.

 Best prediction year I have ever had.

 However, I didn't predict that we would sack the best young manager we have
 had for a while. I didn't like it when it happened, and I like it even less
 now. Utter madness, and it was all because SG was getting bolshy in the
 media about lack of resources, which we all bloody agree with. Unless there
 is some investment soon, we could be relegated next year. I bet our 3 best
 players will be sold this summer, with a few frees coming in. I fcking hope
 not, but I am very pessimistic while the bearded twat is still alive.

 How much is his pension fund up to now?

 When's the funeral?



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[LU] Next season

[Graham . Farr]

Wellwe can keep them then..and finish mid table again.or we 
can have a clear out.

My tip is Derry to come back.

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[LU] Pantomime season # 12343

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

 o'DEA: i know i have talent to be a euro star

*Oh no you don't *


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Re: [LU] Pantomime season # 12343

[Richard Naef]

 o'DEA: i know i have talent to be a euro star

*Oh no you don't *


Dr Michael Benjamin


Mike, I think he means be a Euro Star Train Driver


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Re: [LU] Pantomime season # 12343

[tim . whelan]

Eurostar train drivers have to be able to speak fluent French, so I doubt O'Dea 
has the talent to do that.
 
Tim W.
  


 From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
To: 'LEEDSLIST' leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012, 17:23
Subject: Re: [LU] Pantomime season # 12343
  

 o'DEA: i know i have talent to be a euro star

*Oh no you don't *


Dr Michael Benjamin


Mike, I think he means be a Euro Star Train Driver
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[LU] Our season

[Robert Heath]

Acc to my reckoning, we took 17 pts off the top 6 clubs, and 16 off the bottom 
6.

Seems we are still suffering from Big Club Syndrome..we can 
take on the good teams without any problem (consider recent Cup performances as 
well), but when we have to meet some of these pathetic little clubs like 
Sheffield United or Derby, they raise their game so much because playing Leeds 
is their biggest game for years.
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Re: [LU] LU: Season Ticket Prices 11/12

[Richard Walker]

I think it's time to go on strike Ted? This old twat is making us all look 
silly.

Sent from my iPhone

On 31 Dec 2010, at 12:49, Ted tedhea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just seen the prices for next season (sorry if it's already been posted)
 
 Early Renewal (Jan 4 - Feb 25)  - a 20% saving
 
 North Stand £516
 East  West£633
 Family £462/£201
 
 Late Renewal (March 5-18) - a 10% saving
 
 North Stand £581
 East  West£711
 Family £522/£228
 
 So a rise for me of about £66, £3 odd a game.
 
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[LU] The season to come

[John Lee]

at World Net, Betty and I touched briefly on match reports on the list and what 
a boon they are to those who don't/can't go. 
 
So, with that in mind, can I ask the likes of Dave, Rick W, Nick A, Terry and 
all other match-reportees to keep it up this season? 
 
As always, we EXPECT the personal attacks on left backs, Bechio, when Grayson 
should go, which midfielder can't run, that daft tw*t Gradel etc. 
 
Anyway, to all you budding reporters out there - CHEERS!!



  
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Re: [LU] The season to come

[McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)]

Here here x 1000. 
 
The reports from those listed below are ESSENTIAL READING, so if you
could do one say by 5.10pm, that'd be nice, thanks... ;- 
 
Many many thanks,
 
BMW
 
PS can we forbid any live reporting via Twatter on the grounds that
well, it's for t2ats? 
 
-Mensaje original-
De: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
En nombre de John Lee
Enviado el: lunes, 02 de agosto de 2010 14:25
Para: list leedslist; DAVID NATTAN
Asunto: [LU] The season to come
 
at World Net, Betty and I touched briefly on match reports on the list
and what a boon they are to those who don't/can't go. 
 
So, with that in mind, can I ask the likes of Dave, Rick W, Nick A,
Terry and all other match-reportees to keep it up this season? 
 
As always, we EXPECT the personal attacks on left backs, Bechio, when
Grayson should go, which midfielder can't run, that daft tw*t Gradel
etc. 
 
Anyway, to all you budding reporters out there - CHEERS!!
 
 
 
  
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Re: [LU] The season to come

[Mark Tuffey]

 From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
 at World Net, Betty and I touched briefly on match reports on the list and 
 what a boon they are to those who don't/can't go. 
 So, with that in mind, can I ask the likes of Dave, Rick W, Nick A, Terry and 
 all other match-reportees to keep it up this season? 
 As always, we EXPECT the personal attacks on left backs, Bechio, when Grayson 
 should go, which midfielder can't run, that daft tw*t Gradel etc. 
 Anyway, to all you budding reporters out there - CHEERS!!
 
Brother Lee, well said! And I third or fouth the motion.
Cheers
Mark 
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites 
Leeds United 
Chicago Fire



 
  
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