[LegacyUG] Problem with modified date

[glove]

I've only just noticed this but there appears to be a problem in the
modified date field (which I have showing on the family screen). This only
seems to occur if you do the following:

>From an individual that has at least one source open the individual screen.
>From there choose a field that has an entry with an assigned source and open
the source.
Close without changing anything and then cancel from the individual screen.
Nothing has changed but the date modified is updated.

This does not happen if you open a source directly from the family view
icon.

Can anyone else confirm that this is not just me?
Graham




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Re: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[ArnieAbr]

Here we go again, complaining about Legacy's lack of a Top Down Box Tree. I  
use FTM to make my Trees. ( FTM is what is taught at the local college) No  
company's Trees, except maybe Mac's Reunion is better. My opinion anyway.
I sure hope the in the next revision or update we see included Real  Good 
Trees. If this happens, Legacy would rule the industry. 
 
Grandpa Arnie in Texas
 
In a message dated 12/15/2006 9:15:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That sounds like a more economical idea.
Since  I work as an HP rep (after 4 years with Epson), and have to take tests
with  the HP Infolab, I think collecting the points towards a large printer
might  not be a bad idea!

Laura
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-latin languages

[Brian/Support]

Legacy does not support Unicode at this time.

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Jim Liddil wrote:

I think PDF is the way to go for this issue if all else fails.  In
Word you can use various other keyboards for a given language.  I have
had a lot of experience with this for Chinese writers.  I am not sure
if Legacy is Unicode compliant and would support entry of non-english
characters.  If it does then you can use the Windows language support
features.

Jim


I have an additional issue, that is, names in a non-Latin languages,
this gives many different spellings when names pop up in latin languages
or when you have to translate it yourself.. And no way of recording the
original spelling. I started to put these in a document of Word, and now
face the task of integrating them user-friendly into Legacy. Probably I
will use PDF files or print screens .jpg and attach them to the
individual. Any other idea's are welcome though I am still in
doubt how to do this.
Keren




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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[lgvelez]

That sounds like a more economical idea.
Since I work as an HP rep (after 4 years with Epson), and have to take tests
with the HP Infolab, I think collecting the points towards a large printer
might not be a bad idea!

Laura

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

Hi Laura,
Don't try to print a wall chart on a home printer and stick together 
the little pages.
Take the PDF set to a larger size page to a printer.
Cathy

At 09:38 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:

>Hmmm ... might be just the excuse needed to buy a wider printer 
>
>Laura



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Re: [LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material

[WILLIAM HATHAWAY]

Ron, Jim, others interested,

I agree with Jim - very general question.   But I too include any detail I 
can that might be relevant to people in my file.  I (in progress) point to 
all the digital media - scanned photos, digital camera pics, video and audio 
clips, etc.) I have on family.  (Fifty years of my photography, plus a 
hundred years of family records - I hope to live long enough to get it all 
in one package - digitized and archived in permanent media.)


I too also have separate (Legacy file) data bases for some names which are 
spelled the same and may have lived in the same geographical area but (so 
far) I have not found any connection.  Even if I never do - others working 
after me will not have to plow the same ground.  They can see that these 
have been explored and need only know that the work has been done.   Also 
several separate just for testing various "how-to" techniques for performing 
large changes.  If my tests fail, I do not have to recover - my "good" file 
still exists untouched (although I *always* keep backups on external media 
as I proceed - burnt once, never again.  BTW - I don't "zip" - storage media 
is too cheap to bother compressing - I like my data raw.  Floppy drives are 
nearly as hard to find as punch cards these days.)


Also any info downloaded - I always segregate that until I see what parts 
are legit for including in my personal family.   (The Internet has quite a 
collection of inconsistencies and outright nonsense in genealogy as it does 
on any topic - although it does seem (to me so far) to have a better "signal 
to noise" than many other areas - I think this reflects the seriousness of 
those involved and their personal interest.)


More general though - I do not see Legacy as my "single database."   I have 
been exploring completely separate software to do an inventory of my 
collectibles - from books to scientific instruments to artwork - both stuff 
of others I've collected and my own creations ( www.teslamania.com ) . 
Legacy is too specialized for family relationships and their stories or 
history to handle such things as cataloging music, video, audio, property, 
etc.   I found one program which looked promising, but it is not able to 
print out my lists in PDF - a virtual necessity for a collector.   Some 
people love Excel.  I'll spare you my rude expletives.


Wm. Hathaway


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material



Jim,

This is a very general question and as such difficult to answer.

Personally, I include or attach all details which I consider are, or which 
may become, relevant to people in my file.
This includes things like censuses, BMD records/certificates, military 
records, court records, newspaper extracts etc. etc. etc.
If you are asking do I have separate data bases in which I store "blue sky 
research" then yes I do.
For example I have a database containing all the Fergusons I have come 
across  most of whom will not in all probability be related to my family


Ron Ferguson
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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:49:15 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material

To what extent do people attach digital material to their files?  Do
folks put all content in and treat Legacy as their single database?

Jim




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Re: [LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?

[David Fancy]

Hi Robert


You can query the Geo Names Database at 

http://gnss.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.html

If a location is found it will return the latitude and Longitude and
other data

Dorenlee
Latitude :  52° 42' 0.00'' North
Longitude : 112° 56' 59.99'' West
Datum:  NAD83
Region: Alberta

Regards
David


On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:25:12 -0600, Robert Carneal wrote:

>Hello everyone. We know about Latitudes and Longitudes in legacy. I, for
>one, use them extensively.
>
>If we have a person familiar with converting Canadian legal location to the
>correct latitude and longitude, could you write me please?
>
>Suppose I have Dorenlee, Alberta as a location. Its legal Canadian location
>is given as:
>14-43-21-w4.
>
>That means it is in Section 14 of Township 43, Range 21 miles West of the
>fourth Meridian.  LOL, well, ok, I can use a Rand McNally Atlas (or highway
>map) and find it.
>
>Dorenlee is no longer a incorporated municipality, but it *does* exist, and
>the latest population is reported as 2. It is a little bit South of New
>Norway (on the shores of Red Deer Lake), East of Samson Lake Indian Reserve.
>Last I heard there are a grain elevator and a cemetery there.
>
>So my query is:  How does a person change a Canadian legal location code to
>its correct latitude or longitude? Is it even possible? If not possible, how
>best to store this information? Just in notes of the person involved?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Robert
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[Cathy]

My mind always boggles at the thought of an "All in One" tree.

To put only the descendants of my maternal grandparents on a wall 
chart at a readable size (11pt and 9 pt fonts) takes 2 B1 sized 
charts (B1 paper is 1000 x 707 mm). I repeat the children on both 
charts but have a note that the rest of the descendants for other 
branches are on the other chart. My maternal grandparents had 8 
children, 6 of whom had children. One branch takes a chart to 
themselves as they joined a religious sect that not only doesn't 
believe in birth control but also believes in early marriage and very 
large families. It's only recently we've had positive contact and 
collected this part of the current tree.


I did the chart on two sheets as most of our family reunions are 
picnics in parks. I did shrink them to A1 size (841x594mm) so they 
were easier to hold and pass around.


Cathy

At 09:23 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:


I take your point Cathy and I should have been more specific but I 
was thinking more of "All-in-One" style trees.
For a large tree  to fit one page the dimensions would be 
unreadable. I can only say that in this type of case I haven't been 
able to do it.


Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unicode Support

[MJMethod]

 
 
I don't want to put words or commitment into Legacy's mouth, but I was  
recently told the following because of a specific problem I had: "Currently  
Legacy 
will only work with Western European fonts.  Legacy was developed  with 
Visual Basic 6.0 and our goal over the next year is to port it to the new  
VB.Net 
development tool which will allow us to have full Unicode support."
 
Mike

Michael J  Method


In a message dated 12/15/2006 8:25:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  installed various languages and keyboards on my XP pro system along
with  extended support for Notepad.  Legacy does display unicode fonts
in  the notes fields but the typical entry fields (surname) don't
support  viewing the fonts, only Legacy Special character set.

Having done work  of this type in Oracle I know that the fields need to
support double-byte  characters to work with Unicode.  It seems the
note field does support  this but not the other fields.  Or at least I
can't get it to  work.

Jim


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RE: [LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material

[ronald ferguson]

Jim,

This is a very general question and as such difficult to answer.

Personally, I include or attach all details which I consider are, or which may 
become, relevant to people in my file.
This includes things like censuses, BMD records/certificates, military records, 
court records, newspaper extracts etc. etc. etc.
If you are asking do I have separate data bases in which I store "blue sky 
research" then yes I do.
For example I have a database containing all the Fergusons I have come across  
most of whom will not in all probability be related to my family

Ron Ferguson
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> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:49:15 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material
> 
> To what extent do people attach digital material to their files?  Do
> folks put all content in and treat Legacy as their single database?
> 
> Jim
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[Cathy]

Hi Laura,
Don't try to print a wall chart on a home printer and stick together 
the little pages.

Take the PDF set to a larger size page to a printer.
Cathy

At 09:38 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:


Hmmm ... might be just the excuse needed to buy a wider printer 

Laura




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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-latin languages

[Glen Ballard]

Jim,

I believe a while back there was talk that they are porting Legacy to the
.Net platform and it will support Unicode at that time.

Once the folks from Millennia have their power restored, they can confirm
this.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Liddil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non-latin languages


Legacy appears not to display unicode correctly, but I did not do a
full test and I don't have my system set to do non-english characters.

I really favor the approach of converting the Word to PDF then the
font is preserved and zoomable. Adobe and windoze are unicode
compliant.

I would think Legacy could add unicode display since the allow special
ascii characters.

Anybody out there who has done non-English character entry in Legacy?

Jim

On 12/15/06, Keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, keyboard and added languages in Word and/or XP are not an issue
> with me.
> That's covered. Actually the names are in a Word document already.
> I have no idea if Legacy is Unicode compliant though and what would it
> do for non-latin
> languages? I am not able to type non-latin in Legacy notes for instance.
> I am mainly interested in the use of Legacy to record it. As you mention
> PDF is a way, but
> only if you have some more info to put in.
> I am mostly looking for a way to attach the name written in original
> non-latin language, that's
> why I was thinking of selecting the name in Word and then capture it
> (like print screen), save
> it as .jpg file.  I use a nice tool for this called FastStone Capture,
> that handles the job very well.
> I hoped to get some input on this from LUG users, maybe there are other
> ways to add it to Legacy.
> Keren
>
> Jim Liddil wrote:
> > I think PDF is the way to go for this issue if all else fails.  In
> > Word you can use various other keyboards for a given language.  I have
> > had a lot of experience with this for Chinese writers.  I am not sure
> > if Legacy is Unicode compliant and would support entry of non-english
> > characters.  If it does then you can use the Windows language support
> > features.
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?

[Janet Lee Evans]

Good Question.

I don't know how to change to Lat & Long.

But you can find old municipalities, etc. at the provincial archives or the
federal archives.

Regards,

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Carneal
Sent: December 15, 2006 6:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?

Hello everyone. We know about Latitudes and Longitudes in legacy. I, for
one, use them extensively.

If we have a person familiar with converting Canadian legal location to the
correct latitude and longitude, could you write me please?

Suppose I have Dorenlee, Alberta as a location. Its legal Canadian location
is given as:
14-43-21-w4.

That means it is in Section 14 of Township 43, Range 21 miles West of the
fourth Meridian.  LOL, well, ok, I can use a Rand McNally Atlas (or highway
map) and find it.

Dorenlee is no longer a incorporated municipality, but it *does* exist, and
the latest population is reported as 2. It is a little bit South of New
Norway (on the shores of Red Deer Lake), East of Samson Lake Indian Reserve.
Last I heard there are a grain elevator and a cemetery there.

So my query is:  How does a person change a Canadian legal location code to
its correct latitude or longitude? Is it even possible? If not possible, how
best to store this information? Just in notes of the person involved?

Thank you.

Robert



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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[lgvelez]

Hmmm ... might be just the excuse needed to buy a wider printer 

Laura


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 6:24 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw


I take your point Cathy and I should have been more specific but I was
thinking more of "All-in-One" style trees.
For a large tree  to fit one page the dimensions would be unreadable. I can
only say that in this type of case I haven't been able to do it.

Ron Ferguson


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> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:52:21 +0900
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw
> 
> I agree. TreeDraw makes very good charts - but it takes some learning 
> - especially learning to select sections of your chart and group and 
> ungroup to move sections or edit or add information.
> Also, if you want different coloured lines for different sections, 
> but not different coloured text, you need to change the line colour 
> in Preferences before bringing in that section to avoid the tedium of 
> changing them one by one.
> 
> It does have disadvantages - the main ones for me
> You can't choose to remove the quoted name when importing your tree.
> You can't choose to import just the preferred picture - it's all 
> or none. (you can add any photos you like individually)
> 
> Ron, I'm not sure what you mean by "not shrink to one PDF page"
> You can set the page size to different sizes and can shrink to fit - 
> provided you've chosen a large enough size - I don't think it will 
> shrink to unreadable dimensions.
> If I want my chart on one sheet, I sort this out before going to export.
> 
> You don't get PDF page until you export to PDF.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 08:22 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >Laura,
> >
> > From my point of view yes and yes.  You can see the outputs on may 
> > web site by clicking on the "name holder" of any Pedigree Page (see
below).
> >On the contents page you can also access some full Descendant Trees 
> >but it is necessary to download Tree Draw Viewer (FOC from my site).
> >
> >There are, however, some disadvantages.
> >1. Whilst it auto updates entries, if a specified entry is void when 
> >entered it will not enter new data.
> >2. There is no All-in-one-Tree.
> >3.  It will not shrink a tree to fit a single PDF page.
> >4. Multiple PDF pages are spilt in the data panels (instead of only 
> >in the lines)
> >5. Some auto amendments are no easy to pick out.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >
> >Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette

[David S Brookes]

Sadly the thing that a list like this cannot put over to the reader is the
tone of voice.  People often write as they speak.  You can say the same
sentence in different ways and it means something different.  Also the
expression on a persons face can help sell the meanings of the words.  Let's
try and be as understanding as possible, particularly at this season of
goodwill.  Merry Christmas to everyone.

David S Brookes
Polesworth
N. Warks.
England

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette


The problem is that people do tend to get rude when forgetting that many
times, genealogists are older people and not always computer literate.
Rather than being so rude, why not just kindly remind someone how to send in
plain text.  As for you, Dora, you can be as rude as anyone.  Legacy Users
are made up of all peoples from all over the world with different cultures
and perceptions.  I try to remember that when I see rude comments.  Overall,
the list is great and I learn something about Legacy almost daily. Paul
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette

Dora,
 This is the pot calling the kettle black!



- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette



And I'm copying in my answer off list to Legacy's President.

The attitude here is simply rude, and quite nasty.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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[LegacyUG] Unicode Support

[Jim Liddil]

I installed various languages and keyboards on my XP pro system along
with extended support for Notepad.  Legacy does display unicode fonts
in the notes fields but the typical entry fields (surname) don't
support viewing the fonts, only Legacy Special character set.

Having done work of this type in Oracle I know that the fields need to
support double-byte characters to work with Unicode.  It seems the
note field does support this but not the other fields.  Or at least I
can't get it to work.

Jim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?

[Clarence Mundt]

Hi Robert:
Progeny's World Place Advisor has it as:
Dorenlee, Alberta, Canada 52°42'00"  N112°57'00" W
I have no idea how to convert 14-43-21-w4.

WPA or their new Map My Family Tree version might help you
I believe they both have the same database...

Clarence.

Hope this helps...

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Carneal
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?


Hello everyone. We know about Latitudes and Longitudes in legacy. I, for
one, use them extensively.

If we have a person familiar with converting Canadian legal location to the
correct latitude and longitude, could you write me please?

Suppose I have Dorenlee, Alberta as a location. Its legal Canadian location
is given as:
14-43-21-w4.

That means it is in Section 14 of Township 43, Range 21 miles West of the
fourth Meridian.  LOL, well, ok, I can use a Rand McNally Atlas (or highway
map) and find it.

Dorenlee is no longer a incorporated municipality, but it *does* exist, and
the latest population is reported as 2. It is a little bit South of New
Norway (on the shores of Red Deer Lake), East of Samson Lake Indian Reserve.
Last I heard there are a grain elevator and a cemetery there.

So my query is:  How does a person change a Canadian legal location code to
its correct latitude or longitude? Is it even possible? If not possible, how
best to store this information? Just in notes of the person involved?

Thank you.

Robert



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[LegacyUG] Attaching Digital material

[Jim Liddil]

To what extent do people attach digital material to their files?  Do
folks put all content in and treat Legacy as their single database?

Jim


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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[lgvelez]

Hi Ron,

Your response helps a whole lot. I have version 2, and it did not get
reinstalled the last time I cleaned out my computer. I did some checking and
see that they have gone to ver 3, and I can upgrade for just a bit of $$. I
do remember not being particularly happy with ver 2.

I did check out your website ... love those scrolling charts! #3 on your
list bothers me since I do all of my work via printer, not website. I don't
understand why they don't let your shrink to 8.5 x 11 pages, though probably
manipulation by removing information or generations could whittle it down to
that point.

Again, thank you.

Laura


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 5:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw


Laura,

>From my point of view yes and yes.  You can see the outputs on may web site
by clicking on the "name holder" of any Pedigree Page (see below). 
On the contents page you can also access some full Descendant Trees but it
is necessary to download Tree Draw Viewer (FOC from my site).

There are, however, some disadvantages.
1. Whilst it auto updates entries, if a specified entry is void when entered
it will not enter new data.
2. There is no All-in-one-Tree.
3.  It will not shrink a tree to fit a single PDF page.
4. Multiple PDF pages are spilt in the data panels (instead of only in the
lines)
5. Some auto amendments are no easy to pick out.

Hope this helps,

Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw
> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:43:31 -0600
> 
> Is anybody using TreeDraw? Are your results satisfactory?
> 
> Laura Grant Velez

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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[Cathy]

Hi Ron,

Depends what you call your specific tree.
It will give all descendants of the originating couple (or couples in 
the case of Multiple Descent Report)
They'll all be related but how distantly depends on how far out 
you've researched your tree.


I see an Ancestor Report as a summary report - which of course is all 
that some are interested in seeing.


Cathy

At 09:15 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:



Cathy,

Isn't the difficulty there though that it is likely to give many 
distant relations and not just those related to his specific Tree?


Ron Ferguson
> To get all the child events, you need to use one of the Descendant
> Reports or Multiple Line of Descent.
> The Ancestor report is limited to direct line ancestors.
>
> Cathy




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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[ronald ferguson]

I take your point Cathy and I should have been more specific but I was thinking 
more of "All-in-One" style trees.
For a large tree  to fit one page the dimensions would be unreadable. I can 
only say that in this type of case I haven't been able to do it.

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> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:52:21 +0900
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw
> 
> I agree. TreeDraw makes very good charts - but it takes some learning 
> - especially learning to select sections of your chart and group and 
> ungroup to move sections or edit or add information.
> Also, if you want different coloured lines for different sections, 
> but not different coloured text, you need to change the line colour 
> in Preferences before bringing in that section to avoid the tedium of 
> changing them one by one.
> 
> It does have disadvantages - the main ones for me
> You can't choose to remove the quoted name when importing your tree.
> You can't choose to import just the preferred picture - it's all 
> or none. (you can add any photos you like individually)
> 
> Ron, I'm not sure what you mean by "not shrink to one PDF page"
> You can set the page size to different sizes and can shrink to fit - 
> provided you've chosen a large enough size - I don't think it will 
> shrink to unreadable dimensions.
> If I want my chart on one sheet, I sort this out before going to export.
> 
> You don't get PDF page until you export to PDF.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 08:22 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >Laura,
> >
> > From my point of view yes and yes.  You can see the outputs on may 
> > web site by clicking on the "name holder" of any Pedigree Page (see below).
> >On the contents page you can also access some full Descendant Trees 
> >but it is necessary to download Tree Draw Viewer (FOC from my site).
> >
> >There are, however, some disadvantages.
> >1. Whilst it auto updates entries, if a specified entry is void when 
> >entered it will not enter new data.
> >2. There is no All-in-one-Tree.
> >3.  It will not shrink a tree to fit a single PDF page.
> >4. Multiple PDF pages are spilt in the data panels (instead of only 
> >in the lines)
> >5. Some auto amendments are no easy to pick out.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >
> >Ron Ferguson

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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-latin languages

[Jim Liddil]

Legacy appears not to display unicode correctly, but I did not do a
full test and I don't have my system set to do non-english characters.

I really favor the approach of converting the Word to PDF then the
font is preserved and zoomable. Adobe and windoze are unicode
compliant.

I would think Legacy could add unicode display since the allow special
ascii characters.

Anybody out there who has done non-English character entry in Legacy?

Jim

On 12/15/06, Keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, keyboard and added languages in Word and/or XP are not an issue
with me.
That's covered. Actually the names are in a Word document already.
I have no idea if Legacy is Unicode compliant though and what would it
do for non-latin
languages? I am not able to type non-latin in Legacy notes for instance.
I am mainly interested in the use of Legacy to record it. As you mention
PDF is a way, but
only if you have some more info to put in.
I am mostly looking for a way to attach the name written in original
non-latin language, that's
why I was thinking of selecting the name in Word and then capture it
(like print screen), save
it as .jpg file.  I use a nice tool for this called FastStone Capture,
that handles the job very well.
I hoped to get some input on this from LUG users, maybe there are other
ways to add it to Legacy.
Keren

Jim Liddil wrote:
> I think PDF is the way to go for this issue if all else fails.  In
> Word you can use various other keyboards for a given language.  I have
> had a lot of experience with this for Chinese writers.  I am not sure
> if Legacy is Unicode compliant and would support entry of non-english
> characters.  If it does then you can use the Windows language support
> features.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[ronald ferguson]

Cathy,

Isn't the difficulty there though that it is likely to give many distant 
relations and not just those related to his specific Tree?

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> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:42:32 +0900
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child Event
> 
> To get all the child events, you need to use one of the Descendant 
> Reports or Multiple Line of Descent.
> The Ancestor report is limited to direct line ancestors.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 07:44 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:
> 
> >Ron,
> >Not all of them its just one child who had a son who played football 
> >for England. Some of my relatives would like it in because they are 
> >mad on football.
> >I have just printed a page with the relevant information and added 
> >to the book.
> >Terry
> >
> >ronald ferguson wrote:
> >>Terry,
> >>I am assuming that you wish to print the events for all the 
> >>children of any particular ancestor.
> >>As you have noted this is not possible in the Ancestor Report. 
> >>This, I guess, is because it is a report of the ancestors and not 
> >>their children.
> >>I'm afraid that I cannot think of a report which which will do as you ask.
> >>Ron Ferguson
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:03 +
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >>>Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Event
> >>>
> >>>Hi all
> >>>I am trying to get the events for child to print out in 
> >>>Book/Ancestors but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is 
> >>>there any way to do this.
> >>>Thanks in advance
> >>>Terry

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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[Cathy]

I agree. TreeDraw makes very good charts - but it takes some learning 
- especially learning to select sections of your chart and group and 
ungroup to move sections or edit or add information.
Also, if you want different coloured lines for different sections, 
but not different coloured text, you need to change the line colour 
in Preferences before bringing in that section to avoid the tedium of 
changing them one by one.


It does have disadvantages - the main ones for me
   You can't choose to remove the quoted name when importing your tree.
   You can't choose to import just the preferred picture - it's all 
or none. (you can add any photos you like individually)


Ron, I'm not sure what you mean by "not shrink to one PDF page"
You can set the page size to different sizes and can shrink to fit - 
provided you've chosen a large enough size - I don't think it will 
shrink to unreadable dimensions.

If I want my chart on one sheet, I sort this out before going to export.

You don't get PDF page until you export to PDF.

Cathy

At 08:22 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:



Laura,

From my point of view yes and yes.  You can see the outputs on may 
web site by clicking on the "name holder" of any Pedigree Page (see below).
On the contents page you can also access some full Descendant Trees 
but it is necessary to download Tree Draw Viewer (FOC from my site).


There are, however, some disadvantages.
1. Whilst it auto updates entries, if a specified entry is void when 
entered it will not enter new data.

2. There is no All-in-one-Tree.
3.  It will not shrink a tree to fit a single PDF page.
4. Multiple PDF pages are spilt in the data panels (instead of only 
in the lines)

5. Some auto amendments are no easy to pick out.

Hope this helps,

Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[Cathy]

To get all the child events, you need to use one of the Descendant 
Reports or Multiple Line of Descent.

The Ancestor report is limited to direct line ancestors.

Cathy

At 07:44 AM 16/12/2006, you wrote:


Ron,
Not all of them its just one child who had a son who played football 
for England. Some of my relatives would like it in because they are 
mad on football.
I have just printed a page with the relevant information and added 
to the book.

Terry

ronald ferguson wrote:

Terry,
I am assuming that you wish to print the events for all the 
children of any particular ancestor.
As you have noted this is not possible in the Ancestor Report. 
This, I guess, is because it is a report of the ancestors and not 
their children.

I'm afraid that I cannot think of a report which which will do as you ask.
Ron Ferguson



Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:03 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Event

Hi all
I am trying to get the events for child to print out in 
Book/Ancestors but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is 
there any way to do this.

Thanks in advance
Terry




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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-latin languages

[Keren]

Well, keyboard and added languages in Word and/or XP are not an issue 
with me.

That's covered. Actually the names are in a Word document already.
I have no idea if Legacy is Unicode compliant though and what would it 
do for non-latin

languages? I am not able to type non-latin in Legacy notes for instance.
I am mainly interested in the use of Legacy to record it. As you mention 
PDF is a way, but

only if you have some more info to put in.
I am mostly looking for a way to attach the name written in original 
non-latin language, that's
why I was thinking of selecting the name in Word and then capture it 
(like print screen), save
it as .jpg file.  I use a nice tool for this called FastStone Capture, 
that handles the job very well.
I hoped to get some input on this from LUG users, maybe there are other 
ways to add it to Legacy.

Keren

Jim Liddil wrote:

I think PDF is the way to go for this issue if all else fails.  In
Word you can use various other keyboards for a given language.  I have
had a lot of experience with this for Chinese writers.  I am not sure
if Legacy is Unicode compliant and would support entry of non-english
characters.  If it does then you can use the Windows language support
features.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[ronald ferguson]

Terry,

Good for him, but I'm afraid the answer is still no (even for England).

A work around would be to make an rtf file and load this into a Word Processor.
Make also an individual report for the child including his events and paste the 
events in at the appropriate place.
The difficulty you face is that with the sole exception of Word (so I beliieve) 
You would have to re-enter the pictures into file.

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> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:44:38 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child Event
> 
> Ron,
> Not all of them its just one child who had a son who played football for 
> England. Some of my relatives would like it in because they are mad on 
> football.
> I have just printed a page with the relevant information and added to 
> the book.
> Terry
> 
> ronald ferguson wrote:
> > Terry,
> > 
> > I am assuming that you wish to print the events for all the children of any 
> > particular ancestor.
> > As you have noted this is not possible in the Ancestor Report. This, I 
> > guess, is because it is a report of the ancestors and not their children.
> > I'm afraid that I cannot think of a report which which will do as you ask.
> > 
> > Ron Ferguson
> >  
> >> 
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:03 +
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Event
> >>
> >> Hi all
> >> I am trying to get the events for child to print out in Book/Ancestors 
> >> but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is there any way to do 
> >> this.
> >> Thanks in advance
> >> Terry

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[LegacyUG] Canadian Legal Location codes & Legacy?

[Robert Carneal]

Hello everyone. We know about Latitudes and Longitudes in legacy. I, for
one, use them extensively.

If we have a person familiar with converting Canadian legal location to the
correct latitude and longitude, could you write me please?

Suppose I have Dorenlee, Alberta as a location. Its legal Canadian location
is given as:
14-43-21-w4.

That means it is in Section 14 of Township 43, Range 21 miles West of the
fourth Meridian.  LOL, well, ok, I can use a Rand McNally Atlas (or highway
map) and find it.

Dorenlee is no longer a incorporated municipality, but it *does* exist, and
the latest population is reported as 2. It is a little bit South of New
Norway (on the shores of Red Deer Lake), East of Samson Lake Indian Reserve.
Last I heard there are a grain elevator and a cemetery there.

So my query is:  How does a person change a Canadian legal location code to
its correct latitude or longitude? Is it even possible? If not possible, how
best to store this information? Just in notes of the person involved?

Thank you.

Robert



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RE: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[ronald ferguson]

Laura,

>From my point of view yes and yes.  You can see the outputs on may web site by 
>clicking on the "name holder" of any Pedigree Page (see below). 
On the contents page you can also access some full Descendant Trees but it is 
necessary to download Tree Draw Viewer (FOC from my site).

There are, however, some disadvantages.
1. Whilst it auto updates entries, if a specified entry is void when entered it 
will not enter new data.
2. There is no All-in-one-Tree.
3.  It will not shrink a tree to fit a single PDF page.
4. Multiple PDF pages are spilt in the data panels (instead of only in the 
lines)
5. Some auto amendments are no easy to pick out.

Hope this helps,

Ron Ferguson

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] TreeDraw
> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:43:31 -0600
> 
> Is anybody using TreeDraw? Are your results satisfactory?
> 
> Laura Grant Velez

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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[tarl]

Ron,
Not all of them its just one child who had a son who played football for 
England. Some of my relatives would like it in because they are mad on 
football.
I have just printed a page with the relevant information and added to 
the book.

Terry

ronald ferguson wrote:

Terry,

I am assuming that you wish to print the events for all the children of any 
particular ancestor.
As you have noted this is not possible in the Ancestor Report. This, I guess, 
is because it is a report of the ancestors and not their children.
I'm afraid that I cannot think of a report which which will do as you ask.

Ron Ferguson
 


Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:03 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Event

Hi all
I am trying to get the events for child to print out in Book/Ancestors 
but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is there any way to do 
this.

Thanks in advance
Terry






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[LegacyUG] TreeDraw

[lgvelez]

Is anybody using TreeDraw? Are your results satisfactory?

Laura Grant Velez



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Re: [LegacyUG] 'unsubscribe'

[Ron Secord]

Cass & Jean, [CJ] wrote to the [LegacyUG]:



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This is posted at the bottom of every email that goes out to the list.

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[LegacyUG] Non-latin languages

[Jim Liddil]

I think PDF is the way to go for this issue if all else fails.  In
Word you can use various other keyboards for a given language.  I have
had a lot of experience with this for Chinese writers.  I am not sure
if Legacy is Unicode compliant and would support entry of non-english
characters.  If it does then you can use the Windows language support
features.

Jim


I have an additional issue, that is, names in a non-Latin languages,
this gives many different spellings when names pop up in latin languages
or when you have to translate it yourself.. And no way of recording the
original spelling. I started to put these in a document of Word, and now
face the task of integrating them user-friendly into Legacy. Probably I
will use PDF files or print screens .jpg and attach them to the
individual. Any other idea's are welcome though I am still in
doubt how to do this.
Keren




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Re: [LegacyUG] signatures & names

[Keren]

Kirsten Bowman wrote:

Nina:
 
Regarding your third question, I've often been faced with the same 
dilemma and found a good suggestion in "Getting It Right" by Mary H. 
Slawson.  She recommends using the name by which the person would have 
called himself/herself.  I had a Wilhelmus (baptism) or Wilhelm 
(marriage), but his will was signed "William" so that's what I use as 
the preferred name.  My database is primarily for posting at RootsWeb, 
however, and other researchers of this line most often use 
"Wilhelmus" for this individual.  In order to have my file picked up 
in searches, I now show him as "William or Wilhelmus."
May I add to this, since we have the wonderful feature of AKA's it is 
made easier to clarify  all the names used by an ancestor. In the tittle 
suffix I place info about were the AKA was found. i.e. Say John Smith 
was spelled John Smitt in his marriage record in 1830. I place in the 
suffix His MARR-1830, this way I will always know, when I search through 
the name list which spellings were used and when. Very handy when I go 
through digitalized records.
Before this I  was taught to use the spelling of the name (first and 
last)  of birth/bap etc  All the other spellings went into the notes. 
Actually I believed then it was a general rule :-))
Still this way I always know were the name comes from, that's why I am 
still using the birth/bap etc name as main one, see no use in changing 
it with so many names in my database.


I have an additional issue, that is, names in a non-Latin languages, 
this gives many different spellings when names pop up in latin languages 
or when you have to translate it yourself.. And no way of recording the 
original spelling. I started to put these in a document of Word, and now 
face the task of integrating them user-friendly into Legacy. Probably I 
will use PDF files or print screens .jpg and attach them to the 
individual. Any other idea's are welcome though I am still in 
doubt how to do this.

Keren




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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Event

[ronald ferguson]

Terry,

I am assuming that you wish to print the events for all the children of any 
particular ancestor.
As you have noted this is not possible in the Ancestor Report. This, I guess, 
is because it is a report of the ancestors and not their children.
I'm afraid that I cannot think of a report which which will do as you ask.

Ron Ferguson


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> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:16:03 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Event
> 
> Hi all
> I am trying to get the events for child to print out in Book/Ancestors 
> but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is there any way to do 
> this.
> Thanks in advance
> Terry

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Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Diane,

You did nothing wrong, and no need to apologise.  You wrote to the list 
with a question, and I responded, is all that happened.  I only 
mentioned that I wasn't Sherry because you'd addressed your post to her 
and may have been expecting her to reply, so I was simply pointing out 
that it was someone else answering.  I'm glad I was able to help you.  :-)


As it turns out, we've since heard that Sherry is having power problems, 
so you'd have been waiting a while for her to reply it seems.  This is 
one of the great strengths of a list like ours - anyone can chime in 
when they see a need, so you aren't waiting for one particular person 
who may not be available just when you need them.


Sherry, when you catch up with the mail, I hope you've come through that 
storm okay.  I can see stories about it on CNN.com now that I know to 
look 
(http://www.cnn.com/2006/WEATHER/12/15/northwest.storm.ap/index.html).  
A distant cousin of my partner's, who I was chatting to in IM yesterday, 
mentioned the high winds they were getting in Portland OR but I had no 
idea it was so bad at the time.  Not what people need so close to the 
holiday season!  :-(


Diane, keep posting your questions here as they arise, and we will all 
do our best to help you find the answers you need.  The only silly 
question is one you don't ask.  Remember, you're not only helping 
yourself when you ask here, you are helping others who are reading this 
list, too.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/

Diane Miller said the following on 16/12/2006 4:44 a.m.:
Wendy, sorry for the mixed up in my posting to Sherry but thank you 
very much for responding, that is exactly what I needed to know.

Thanks Again
Diane Miller

- Original Message -
*From:* Wendy Howard 
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

*Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems

Hi Diane,

I'm not Sherry, but I think I can help point you in the right
direction.  :-)

You can have both Legacy 5 and Legacy 6 on your computer at the
same time, if you install them in separate directories.

But, if you had Legacy 5 Deluxe you don't automatically get deluxe
when you download the new version.  You can purchase an upgrade
for a cheaper price than buying it "new".  See the links on the
right at http://legacyfamilytree.com/ for purchasing Deluxe, and
upgrading to Deluxe.

An update for Legacy 5 was announced in the past few days, and
this may be what you downloaded.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems
Date:   Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:41:40 -0600
From:   Diane Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Sherry,
This may sound a little dense but I am confused. I have Legacy 5.0.0.261 
Deluxe Edition, I just downloaded an update but I did not get Legacy 6. 
If I download Legacy 6 will I lose my Deluxe Edition features?

Diane Miller

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Re: [LegacyUG] User Manual

[Bob Janice]

Marie,

I agree wholeheartedly!  While the on-line help is extremely good, 
having the manual open in front of you and being able quickly browse 
through the chapters is very convenient.  I also do the same thing as 
you - read through the manual while waiting for an appointment or any 
other "slow" time - I've picked up quite a few tips and new ways to do 
things that way.


Bob


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have the manual and find it much more convenient to use than the 
on-line help. I can flip through a number of pages in the time it take 
me to try to mouse click. Plus I can browse through it when I'm off 
line. A great "read" when you're waiting for an appointment.
 
It makes a great gift!
 
Marie


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I have. The online help is nice, but having the manual open a
section of
Legacy I am using at the moment is nice. Just being able to physically
review something is nice to me.

Robert

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] User Manual

Has anyone purchased the Legacy user manual?  Is there anything in it
that is not in the online help?

Jim



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RE: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette

[Paul C. Abell]

The problem is that people do tend to get rude when forgetting that many
times, genealogists are older people and not always computer literate.
Rather than being so rude, why not just kindly remind someone how to send in
plain text.  As for you, Dora, you can be as rude as anyone.  Legacy Users
are made up of all peoples from all over the world with different cultures
and perceptions.  I try to remember that when I see rude comments.  Overall,
the list is great and I learn something about Legacy almost daily.
Paul
-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 6:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette

Dora,
 This is the pot calling the kettle black!



- Original Message -
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette



And I'm copying in my answer off list to Legacy's President.

The attitude here is simply rude, and quite nasty.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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Re: [LegacyUG] User Manual

[MVMcgrs]

I have the manual and find it much more convenient to use than the on-line 
help. I can flip through a number of pages in the time it take me to try to 
mouse click. Plus I can browse through it when I'm off line. A great "read" 
when 
you're waiting for an appointment. 

It makes a great gift!

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have. The online help is nice, but having the manual open a section of
Legacy I am using at the moment is nice. Just being able to physically
review something is nice to me.

Robert

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Sent: 2006-12-15 10:15
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] User Manual

Has anyone purchased the Legacy user manual?  Is there anything in it
that is not in the online help?

Jim



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RE: [LegacyUG] User Manual

[Robert Carneal]

I have. The online help is nice, but having the manual open a section of
Legacy I am using at the moment is nice. Just being able to physically
review something is nice to me.

Robert

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Subject: [LegacyUG] User Manual

Has anyone purchased the Legacy user manual?  Is there anything in it
that is not in the online help?

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[LegacyUG] Child Event

[tarl]

Hi all
I am trying to get the events for child to print out in Book/Ancestors 
but the events button in Options is ghosted out. Is there any way to do 
this.

Thanks in advance
Terry


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[LegacyUG] User Manual

[Jim Liddil]

Has anyone purchased the Legacy user manual?  Is there anything in it
that is not in the online help?

Jim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems

[Diane Miller]

Wendy, sorry for the mixed up in my posting to Sherry but thank you very much 
for responding, that is exactly what I needed to know.
Thanks Again
Diane Miller
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wendy Howard 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems


  Hi Diane,

  I'm not Sherry, but I think I can help point you in the right direction.  :-)

  You can have both Legacy 5 and Legacy 6 on your computer at the same time, if 
you install them in separate directories.

  But, if you had Legacy 5 Deluxe you don't automatically get deluxe when you 
download the new version.  You can purchase an upgrade for a cheaper price than 
buying it "new".  See the links on the right at http://legacyfamilytree.com/ 
for purchasing Deluxe, and upgrading to Deluxe.

  An update for Legacy 5 was announced in the past few days, and this may be 
what you downloaded.

  Hope this helps.  :-)

  Kind Regards,
  Wendy Howard
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  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/

   Original Message  Subject:  Re: [LegacyUG] Download problems 
Date:  Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:41:40 -0600 
From:  Diane Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Sherry,
This may sound a little dense but I am confused. I have Legacy 5.0.0.261 
Deluxe Edition, I just downloaded an update but I did not get Legacy 6. 
If I download Legacy 6 will I lose my Deluxe Edition features?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Standard Usage?

[WILLIAM HATHAWAY]

Tracy,

Ron is correct.   In general, this is not the way names are entered in 
Legacy.   The
AKA is a good and proper way to enter married names.   The info is there - 
but I personally

do not want to make extra mouse clicks to see it.

In short:  In the "Individual's Information", I enter in the "Given" box 
(first line in the form)
Jane (Mrs. John Doe) - or  sometimes: Jane (2nd Mrs. John Doe) if she is 
Johnny's second wife.Then her natal/maiden name goes into the "Surname" 
box (second line in the form.)
My use of "1st, 2nd spouse" in the Given box helps me especially when I am 
descended from only one of his/her marriage(s.)  The "Preferred Line" tracks 
this, but I want to see it in my printed reports.(This is one case where 
I do use the "Ignore checking of illegal characters" in the Potential 
Problems report - and I make sure that there are no other true illegal uses 
in such an entry.)


I do not know if this non-general use I have chosen will give me difficulty 
later in printing book type narratives or such, where Legacy probably 
accounts for marriage names, but it suits my needs now.I would only 
suggest experimenting with it under a separately named "Family File" - make 
a copy of your main File to a different name - play with it and see if you 
like the results before converting or entering all pairings in this manner.



HOWEVER, I chose my method for two other reasons.   It started when I 
entered

the second person in my database - my mother.   The name by which she would
be identified in her birth certificate, her college diploma, to history and 
to standard
genealogy format would indeed be her natal Surname.   So I put her 
natal/maiden
surname in the "Surname" box (second line in the Individual's Information) 
as is standard.
But I never knew her as FirstName ("Given" box - first line in the 
Individual's

Information) MaidenName.   Everyone who knows her knows her name as
FirstName LastName = my father's family name.   When she taught school,
she was "Mrs. Hathaway."(I don't think I'm giving out any additional 
private data
here - you have all seen my last name in my email, so this is a 
one-brainer.)
I simply could not bring myself to see or print reports with only a name she 
hadn't
used for the majority of her life - virtually all people who knew her before 
she took
my father's name at marriage are long dead.Since I paid for the software 
and
am using it for my own purposes (records for living family and future 
posterity - I am not webbing this info), I can use it anyway I choose. 
("The press is free to the guy what owns one.")


Secondly, in general for all the married women in my database, I find it 
much
easier to see/read and memorize which woman goes with which man.  The 
Ancestry
report is more clear to me when I see a husband connected by a line to a 
woman
with his Mrs. printed right there (sometimes on a different page, what with 
all

the intervening generations placed between.)

So for both these reasons - "that is the name by which everyone knows her" 
(and will likely be on headstones, etc.) and for practical utility in 
reading reports - I place in the "Given" box, the full identification. 
Jane (Mrs. John Doe)   Then her natal/maiden name goes into the "Surname" 
box.  As I add a father, the Surname is already filled in.   Neat.


(Oy - when I filled in my cousin line from John and Priscilla (Mullins) 
Alden of the Mayflower to Orson Wells - and he had 4 or 5 wives - one of 
whom (Rita Hayworth) also had a handful of husbands, including the son and 
father of "The Ahga Khan", I needed some way to see directly in which order 
who did what with whom.And no, I've not entered the 49 male direct line 
to the founder of the Shiia sect - I'd then need to include Rita's Jewish 
ancestry.  I barely have time to type this note.   I'd hate to do a 
Hollywood genealogy - they coupled like Rock Stars.  I've got enough to 
handle with the 900,000,000 plus stars in our astronomy catalog.   BTW, her 
husband, although his father was the 47th Ahga, made sure his son was 
skipped for the title, which went directly to the grandson - as the guy was 
a notorious, adulterous playboy and inappropriate for being the titular 
spiritual head of a huge following of a religious community - religion 
seeming to have an annoying tendency to tell the sheeple when, where, how 
and in what manner to breed - go figure...)



As a detail, I have not (yet) run into any formal wife/wife pairings in my 
database.   Although I myself came extremely close to winning a wife who 
this year instead married a woman.   Alas, although her identical twin 
sister would have liked to have married them (perform the ceremony as she is 
a Minister), she was unable to as the couple had to travel to Canada to get 
married as she was only licensed in the Land of the Free.   To add an 
additional riff, I'm sure everyone has heard/read the bleating of "Marriage 
Consists of One Man and One Wo

[LegacyUG] Power Outages

[Brian/Support]

List Members,

Because of a bad storm in the US North West both Jim Terry, our Help 
Telephone Line responder, and Sherry, my partner in Customer Support, 
are without power. Because of the extent of the power failures they may 
be off-line for a few days.


I will be handling the Support emails on my own for the next few days 
and those who have sent mail to Sherry may not hear from her until her 
power is restored.


Please be patient.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Standard Usage?

[ronald ferguson]

Tracy,

I guess you haven't seen it because in general it is not entered that way in 
Legacy.

I use the AKAs (the 3 head heads icon) for entering alternate married names.

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> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:23:20 +1100
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Standard Usage?
> 
> Hi William
>  I indeed enter all known wives in curved parenthesis, such as:
> Jane (Mrs.
> John Doe) Roe 
> 
> I haven't seen this before with other information that listers have
> sent in their emails, can you explain how it is entered into Legacy?
> I use something similiar but I'm curious about your method.
> 
> Cheers
> Tracy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Standard Usage?

[Tracy Skegg]

Hi William
 I indeed enter all known wives in curved parenthesis, such as:
Jane (Mrs.
John Doe) Roe 

I haven't seen this before with other information that listers have
sent in their emails, can you explain how it is entered into Legacy?
I use something similiar but I'm curious about your method.

Cheers
Tracy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Need Help on Legacy Pedigree Report Please

[Candi]

Good Morning Richard,


 I want to thank you ever so much for your help, it was of great
value. I now know what I need to do. I also went back to archives and
searched charts that was also a major help. I kept seeing in archives
the mentions of Reunion & Generation, would you happen to have to web
address' for these two ? Again thank you so much for all your kind
help.

Very Sincerely,

   Candi










> I have in my file, Elizabeth in 1. her grandmothers
> are sisters, so greatgrandfather John is in 10. and
> 14. greatgrandmother Elizabeth 11 and 15. So her
> father Samuel is continued on both page 6 and page 10.
> Switching the 'Don't print duplicate lines' changes
> the report to include (or not) the phrases and page
> disappears. (Actually, it is renumbered to someone
> else.) It is working properly. You can have either the
> phrase and not duplcate, or no message and show the
> person twice. That is not, IMHO a problem.
> Rich
>
> --- Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote
>> >I have never used Genbox, so don't know what the
>> Legacy Pedigree report
>> >doesn't have. I just ran the P. report and it did
>> exactly that. You may
>> >want to pick 4,5, or 6 generations to a page, but
>> that doesn't seem to
>> >be your need. Are you asking how to create a more
>> than 6 generations to
>> >a page, or making a 10 or 12 gen chart for on a
>> wall. There a programs
>> >out there that do this. I haven't wanted them. The
>> Ancestor report
>> >might be close to what you want. Which of the
>> guesses
>> >are closest to what you desire.
>>
>> I *think* I understand what Candi was meaning: that
>> if there is, for
>> example a common ancestor who appears in 2 different
>> places on the
>> pedigree line, the fact that the person in "position
>> A" is the same
>> person as that in "position X" should be indicated.
>>
>> I have just set up a test file with such a
>> situation, where persons 2
>> and 10 on the chart were the same person.  Under
>> Report Options, Format,
>> I ticked the box for "Don't repeat duplicate lines."
>>  When I ran the
>> report under the name of person 10 it says
>> "Duplicate line.  See chart 1
>> position 2."
>>
>> If Candi wants such an indication but also wants the
>> full pedigree for
>> that person repeating, I don't think it's possible.
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette

[Rdicks]

Dora,
 This is the pot calling the kettle black!



- Original Message -
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogy Etiquette



And I'm copying in my answer off list to Legacy's President.

The attitude here is simply rude, and quite nasty.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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