RE: [LegacyUG] Chapman codes (was: Date Format Importance...)
You will find a list of Chapman Codes at http://rmhh.co.uk/chapcodes.html -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Editing Locations
Thank you very much to everyone who helped with this editing of the Location List. m seems I am in for a long haul here, but the tagging is just what I needed. I shall use the Name List and Edit, also the Search button to select the tagged names. Good job it is winter time here and the days are short and the evenings long. Sorry to you all about not taking off the read receipt function. Best Wishes, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Editing Locations And tag everyone in the DB, so you can remove each tag as you finish that persons' edit. You then know how much is left. Having a plan in place makes it seem smaller. Congratulations on this non-standard inheritance. Rich in LA CA --- Gene Hutson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Once in Location List, look under options for non-locations, check the box for moving all non-locations to their respective note locations, this allows you to remove them from the list but not to lose the information. Hope this helps, Gene Hutson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: 19/11/2007 12:35 Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara Ford wrote I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? I will refer only to the Burial field, as that is what your query is about, but what I say below refers to *all* address fields, including Events. If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Date Format Importance
US of A was part of England until 1707, only part of Great Britain after 1707. Apologies if this is thought to be pedantic. Regards John Clare Thomas Herson wrote: Also, I would recommend ALWAYS indicating the country. Just because your known ancestors weren't from or didn't reside in another country doesn't mean that you won't uncover an ancestor who did and who's to say your great-grandchild won't be born in another country? Besides, even the USA wasn't always so - just another colony and considered as part of Great Britain. So, *always* mention the correct country and get the time context correct. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] question of Family screen
Joan, The relationship is to whoever it is set to - possibly yourself. Go to Tools, Set relationships and choose the person you want as the base person. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan Fricker Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] question of Family screen I am new to Legacy and genealogy research. I just found your group and I have learned several things already. I have Legacy 6.0. One question that I have not been able to find an answer for is: In the Family Screen, the two top lines show the parents and the next line for entry shows the person for which I am entering information. The line between these two entries is automatically being filled with a relationship, but many times it is not correct. Where do I change this or where is the information coming from? For instance the person I am entering might be the daughter of the parents shown above. In this instance it shows she is a grand niece and this is incorrect. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. Any ideas? I hope this makes sense. Joan There is no legacy as rich as integrity! Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] question of Family screen
I am new to Legacy and genealogy research. I just found your group and I have learned several things already. I have Legacy 6.0. One question that I have not been able to find an answer for is: In the Family Screen, the two top lines show the parents and the next line for entry shows the person for which I am entering information. The line between these two entries is automatically being filled with a relationship, but many times it is not correct. Where do I change this or where is the information coming from? For instance the person I am entering might be the daughter of the parents shown above. In this instance it shows she is a grand niece and this is incorrect. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. Any ideas? I hope this makes sense. Joan There is no legacy as rich as integrity! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] RE: [Legacy] Training videos
Jennifer, That was a big help and truly makes sense now. I am thinking I need to order the training videos. I have the deluxe version of 6.0. Being a new researcher and new to Legacy, what do you all suggest I purchase? I want to do the entries correctly before I go any further in recording information. After reading many of your posts, I realize there are many things I am not doing correctly. Joan There is no legacy as rich as integrity! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
My mother died in Oklahoma but is buried in Pennsylvania. But I usually do include the cemetery name. Philadelphia has a lot of cemeteries, so I think the name is needed. There are also a lot of cemeteries no longer in use that have been built over, so tracing burials without a cemetery name is difficult. Elizabeth C Michele Lewis wrote: I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] question of Family screen
Joan, The realtionships shown on those bars are the relationship between that person and the one who you chose as the start person. Usually this is oneself, eg. on my tree they all show the relationship between that person and me. The display of multiple relationships is not possible. To set the start person and to display the relationships (or otherwise) go to ToolsSet Relationships. Under Tools it is also possible to find the relationship between any two people using the Relationship Calculator. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] question of Family screen Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:55:15 -0500 I am new to Legacy and genealogy research. I just found your group and I have learned several things already. I have Legacy 6.0. One question that I have not been able to find an answer for is: In the Family Screen, the two top lines show the parents and the next line for entry shows the person for which I am entering information. The line between these two entries is automatically being filled with a relationship, but many times it is not correct. Where do I change this or where is the information coming from? For instance the person I am entering might be the daughter of the parents shown above. In this instance it shows she is a grand niece and this is incorrect. I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. Any ideas? I hope this makes sense. Joan There is no legacy as rich as integrity! _ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] RE: [Legacy] Training videos
Tom and all, Thanks for the tip. I have turned off the read receipt option. Joan There is no legacy as rich as integrity! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Don't be a slave to the videos. Decide what you intend to do with your data and go from there. If you intend to publish to the web using Legacy, create the webpages and take a look at them to see if the way you are entering data does what you want. Same goes for book reports. If you intend to submit your data to some other body, find out what they expect and format your data accordingly. Good luck... -- Dev +++ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Am trying to digest all the responses to my query... So, thinking in terms of what I want to do with the information I am entering (have just spent hours taking out the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields, and putting the name of the cemetery on the top line (Name field) on the Burial Address screen)... If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Enter for burial location Cem xxx, City, County, State example -- Cem Topeka, Topeka, Shawnee, KS When you look at the master location list sort the file from right to left then you get KS, Shawnee, Topeka, Cem Topeka I found this the most suitable pattern that I use for locations. Other locations are always City, County, State Should one of the three be unknown then it is entered as City, _, State the _ is the place holder for outside of the USA, I use four places the 4th place always the country. The nice thing about Legacy, you can use a pattern of data entry that best suits your needs, and presents an easy readable format for others. One of the most important thing is to remember you standard patterns and maintain then for every enrty. As others, waiting to upgradt to v 7 Deluxe. till later _J_B_ = - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2007 6:29 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Am trying to digest all the responses to my query... If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? -- Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Okay, I'm glad I asked, before I spend any more hours maybe doing it the wrong way. I followed your instructions to see a list, and sure enough, one cemetery where I happen to have several relatives buried, does come up in the list. But it comes up every single time I have entered it in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. I have to click on each instance of it to see the one person buried there from what I input on that individual's information. So, I need to do something differently if I want the cemetery name to come up once, and be able to see all buried there when I click on Show List. I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, I cannot tell what it might have done. But I hope you had backed up your current information; go to FileRestore Family File and follow the instructions. If you are not certain how current your backup is you may wish to save it as a different .fdb rather than overwriting your current version. If you haven't backed up herewith lesson 1! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:51:34 -0600 Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy User Group message format
Dear LUG Subscribers There has been some recent discussion in the LUG about sending messages in plain text format only and about turning off 'read receipt requests'. In addition, I have received several messages sent to the wrong address. If you have questions about the correct format for LUG messages, or the correct LUG address, please visit http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp. Thank you, Jim Terry Newsgroup Administrator Legacy Family Tree No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
If using the Burial Addresses (accessed by the + beside the Burial location) When it has the place to fill in the name and address - click on the button on the right that says Address List - you can then reuse places that you used before. (more than one person buried there, etc...) If you have already entered a place more than once, you can combine them just like you would city locations. To see everyone buried (or otherwise using) an address - from the address list click on Show List Hope this helps! Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
To eliminate the duplicated addresses, go to the event master lists, select options, select combine duplicates. If they are not exact duplicates, they will not combine so you may have to do some editing. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Okay, I'm glad I asked, before I spend any more hours maybe doing it the wrong way. I followed your instructions to see a list, and sure enough, one cemetery where I happen to have several relatives buried, does come up in the list. But it comes up every single time I have entered it in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. I have to click on each instance of it to see the one person buried there from what I input on that individual's information. So, I need to do something differently if I want the cemetery name to come up once, and be able to see all buried there when I click on Show List. I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Thank you so much for all your help. I'll definitely study your pages! I'll get it eventually. Surely someone with a Master's Degree in Education and many years of teaching, even technology classes (I know, it's hard to believe) will catch on sometime soon! My problem has ALWAYS been that I want to understand everything NOW, and I know that's impossible. I appreciate the patience and help from everyone. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Album or Scrapbook
Winifred, I can't say that I've used the scrapbook/ photo album feature in Legacy since it doesn't allow me to print different sizes of photos on the same page or album. I've decided to create my own album using a recent version of WordPerfect. MS Word would work, too, but, IMHO, WordPerfect handles the insertion of images easier than Word, at least Word v2003 and previous versions, so I've decided to use WordPerfect. I can size the images however I wish, can add any amount of information under each image, and easily rearrange until I'm satisfied with the result. I plan to add these printed pages to the back of my Legacy Book Publication. I'll just use a Titled placeholder in my Legacy Book for these additional pages. The only genealogy program I know of that allows insertion of different sized images that will print out that way is the old Family Origins genealogy program. I don't know if the new Roots Magic, written by the same author, handles the image sizes like the old Family Origins did, but it was a very nice feature, and was introduced based on user requests. If you'd like to make a request to Legacy, along those lines, go to the Home Tab in Legacy, look on the right hand side of the window, about mid way down under SUPPORT, and click on Suggest a New Feature where you can make your request. I enjoy using digital images in my family reports and my family feels the images really add interest to the reports. I hope, in future, Legacy beefs up the program in this area. I'll be curious to read other responses to your question. Mary - Original Message - From: Winifred McLachlan Has anyone used Photo Albums/Scrapbooks. I have printed out the Help file concerning this topic, and all the Legacy Tips concerning pictures. Has anyone had experience in using or printing a photo album or scrapbook? Were theyy pleased with it? Does it work well I would like to print booklets of Family Groups with larger pictures at the back of the booklet. Has anyone tried anything like this or the Photo Album, and if so, were they pleased with the result? Your response will be most appreciated. Winifred Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are included in the Burial Place field, I would not repeat them all in the Address, but I would put the name of the town in double square (privacy) brackets [[like this]] so that I know precisely which Cemetery is referred to, but I won't get repeated information on reports. As an example, in Burial Place I will have Birkenhead, Cheshire, England and in Burial Address I will have Section 6, No 112 in the Name Field, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery in the Address field, and [[Birkenhead]] in the City Field. In a Report this will print as She was buried in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England (Section 6, No 112, Flaybrick Hill Cemetery). -- Jenny M Benson _ _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music
RE: [LegacyUG] Chapman codes (was: Date Format Importance...)
That can't be the official list of codes as Western Australia and Washington are both WA Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Hall Sent: 20 November 2007 07:57 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Chapman codes (was: Date Format Importance...) You will find a list of Chapman Codes at http://rmhh.co.uk/chapcodes.html -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Selecting the 20 duplicates as you did will have no effect. The combine duplicates combines all duplicates which means there were others addresses that were also duplicated. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Baptism event to Christening field
Hello All, I recently purchased Legacy 6.0 and moved all my Family Tree Maker data to it via GEDCOM.I note that in Legacy Christenings appear on the Family Page and are included on the Descendant Chart whereas Baptisms do not. For the most part I tended to classify this event as a Baptism so now find this information missing from the Family Page and from the Descendant Chart. I understand that if I go into the event list for each individual and highlight the Baptism, I can then click on the Options button and Swap the information with Christening information.I tried this but it only shifts the Date and leaves the Description/Place/Notes data still pegged to Baptism.Not only that, as I have close to 1,700 baptisms to shift to the Christening field I am hoping someone can guide me to an easier solution. I still have my original Family Tree Maker file. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ken Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara Ford wrote I am assuming that I should ONLY ONE TIME have put the name of the cemetery as a Burial Address associated with that Burial Location. Am I correct? Yes. Once you have entered an address previously, the next time you want to use it after clicking on the + and selecting Burial Address click on Address List then you can either scroll down or type the name (you usually only need part of it) in the Find field. By the way, is there now a quick way I can take that out of all but one instance? (This is a cemetery where I have already input the Name of the Cemetery for about 20 different individuals...) Yes to that, too. With the address list open (after you have clicked on Address List) highlight the first instance of the address which is duplicated and then click on the bar at the bottom which says Combine the highlighted event address with another one in the list... Now select the second instance of the address and click the bar again. Repeat until you only have one instance of the address. -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Ok, how about this?
Ok, how about if Legacy were to add a field dedicated for the name of the cemetery? Then it would be easy to search for persons buried in the same cemetery. I think it would be helpful to have something like that. When your file starts getting large, you can't remember who all is buried where. michele Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Actually...
Michele, You can search for a particular event. Go to the Search window, select the Detailed Search tab and under Where to look select Event-Description (assuming that you have put the cemetery name in the Description field) You can also create a cemetery event report - select to show only the Cemetery event in that report and create the report. The Event Report is a Deluxe feature found in the Reports window under Books/Other. The report will be in alphabetical order by name of the individual. Not to mention the Name List Report. Do the above search for the Cemetery and in the Search List, click on Print and you can create a report of everyone who has that cemetery in an event. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:04 AM To: legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Actually... Actually, there is already a field dedicated to the name of the cemetery. It is listed under events. The only snafoo is you can not search by that particular event. Maybe then the only thing that would be needed is to add that event to the drop down box on the search screen. Then you could search by the cemetery name in that event slot and tag the result and then you would have all the people that are buried at a particular cemetery. michele Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:31:04 +1100 Jenny, I can see your work around will suit for reports, I still maintain that having to do these convoluted entries, involving putting things like plot details in a name field and using double square brackets, is a failing in Legacy. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If the address of the Cemetery has some of the same elements as are
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Yup, Barbara, that's how I do it. I do use the Death Notes though for things like the Death Index reference ( don't know the name of the USA references) and anything else of note. I am not saying that the way Legacy suggests is wrong or causes problems etc. as never having done it that way I don't know. I find that my way works for me and since the Geolocation list is not very important for UK locations the problems with that aspect don't bother me - and I can usually work round them if needed (very, very rarely) My major interest has always been web pages so I am not particularly recommending my method, just saying that it works for me and I do understand that others who may have different priorities select other options. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:30:14 -0600 I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of
Re: [LegacyUG] Ok, how about this?
Ok, how about if Legacy were to add a field dedicated for the name of the cemetery? Why add yet more fields? Just put it in Buried location field. Result: e.g. John was buried on 2 Sep. 1884 in Plot 226, Warriston Cemetery, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. -- Mary Young Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? Take heed of what Ron said about backups. Before you try anything you are uncertain of, make a backup! To answer your question about duplicates, it sounds like you are entering a new address entry every time instead of reusing existing addresses. When you go to enter a address, instead of typing the same address in again, you should click on the Address List button on the right, select an address that you have already entered, then click save. This way you only enter the cemetery's address once. If you are also using the Address List to enter plot info, all bets are off and someone else will have to give advice. -- Dev +++ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Actually...
Michelle, I don't see why not, providing it has been used. Use SearchFindDetailed Search then set the boxes as: Individual: Event Name: Cemetery: Equal to: Cemetery. Ron ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Actually... Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:03:40 -0500 Actually, there is already a field dedicated to the name of the cemetery. It is listed under events. The only snafoo is you can not search by that particular event. Maybe then the only thing that would be needed is to add that event to the drop down box on the search screen. Then you could search by the cemetery name in that event slot and tag the result and then you would have all the people that are buried at a particular cemetery. michele _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Actually...
Michelle, The detail in my last email was rubbish! If the Event name is Cemetery one could put the name of the cemetery in the Description field then date and place in the appropriate fields. The search would then be: SearchFindDetailed Search then Individual: Event-Description: Equal To: Cemetery. Sorry about that. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Actually... Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:03:40 -0500 Actually, there is already a field dedicated to the name of the cemetery. It is listed under events. The only snafoo is you can not search by that particular event. Maybe then the only thing that would be needed is to add that event to the drop down box on the search screen. Then you could search by the cemetery name in that event slot and tag the result and then you would have all the people that are buried at a particular cemetery. michele _ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism event to Christening field
Hi Ken, In Options Customise - Data Format tab - you can choose to use Baptism instead of Christening. I do. However, I think it may still be labelled as Christening in a Gedcom. I'm not a Gedcom expert. You may need to import your FTM Gedcom again and choose to customise so you can map the Baptism to Christening if it is being imported as a separate event or you may find that changing the term in Options Customise is enough to get it to import into the right place. BUT you mention the Description field. The main Baptism/Christening fields don't include a Description field so you would lose this. When you swap an Alt Baptism or Baptism Event with Baptism in the main 4 fields, everything except the Description is swapped - notes, sources, place, date. The Description field gets left behind. Cathy At 03:50 AM 21/11/2007, you wrote: Hello All, I recently purchased Legacy 6.0 and moved all my Family Tree Maker data to it via GEDCOM.I note that in Legacy Christenings appear on the Family Page and are included on the Descendant Chart whereas Baptisms do not. For the most part I tended to classify this event as a Baptism so now find this information missing from the Family Page and from the Descendant Chart. I understand that if I go into the event list for each individual and highlight the Baptism, I can then click on the Options button and Swap the information with Christening information.I tried this but it only shifts the Date and leaves the Description/Place/Notes data still pegged to Baptism.Not only that, as I have close to 1,700 baptisms to shift to the Christening field I am hoping someone can guide me to an easier solution. I still have my original Family Tree Maker file. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ken Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ok, how about
But we can put that in an event and accomplish that. I have done that. I created an event making the name Cemetery. If I want to look for my ancestors who were buried at sea, I do this: 1. I add my ancestor 2. I add the event for Cemetery 3. Enter At sea for the description Then if I want to find those buried at sea later, I do this: 1. Go to Search drop down (Ctrl-F) 2. Enter the following: Look for whom? == Individual Where to look == Event Description How to look == Contains What to look for == At sea (Or whatever I am looking for) Then I get a list of those buried at sea. Will this do what you want? Note: If you use Equal To instead of contains, it will strictly search for that value. Thanks. Robert Michele Lewis wrote: Ok, how about if Legacy were to add a field dedicated for the name of the cemetery? Then it would be easy to search for persons buried in the same cemetery. I think it would be helpful to have something like that. When your file starts getting large, you can't remember who all is buried where. michele Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Sorry if I was misunderstood. I was certainly not suggesting that the system be changed. I was simply expressing my desire to understand the system. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Herson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Just because you were confused by the Legacy instructions is no reason to change the system. The location field isn't meant to include the names of hospitals, churches, cemeteries or the street addresses of individuals. The Address field is where those things go and, if you only stop to think about it, you only need to enter Address information once and then select, rather than re-enter the address each time you need to use it. Supposing at some point in the future, Legacy decides to limit locations to four items separated by commas ... city, county, state, country? Tom - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think I may have figured it out.I can't believe my learning curve is so steep with this stuff... I had failed to check the box that said to combine only the ones checked. That's okay, because in the list, there were several repeats of cemetery names, so what it did was to combine all duplicates, not just the cemetery where I had 20 occurrences. So, I think I'm okay. Still, I need to have a better understanding. I think, in my case, I should not have viewed the training video where the instructor said NOT to put the name of the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather to click on the + and then Burial Address and then put the name of the cemetery in the Name field on the Burial Address screen. That's what I did, every single time. Since in Family Tree Maker, I had put the name of the cemetery in the burial location field, after the import, I was trying to follow the training video and have already spent hours taking OUT the name of the cemetery from the Burial Location field and putting it IN the Burial Address Name field. As a result, I ended up with several single occurrences of that cemetery name. So, I don't really know where to go from here. Ron, am I understanding from your method, that I would do this in the Burial Location field on the Individual's screen (my example is for a USA person): Name of Cemetery, Name of City, Name of County, Name of State, USA and then don't even click on the + Ron, I have looked at the output on your web page, and I like the way it looks there, so I'm thinking to follow your method (also, the less screens I have to click on to get to, and the less duplicate information I need to record, the better). Am I on the right track? Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are
RE: [LegacyUG] Chapman codes (was: Date Format Importance...)
Well they are if Washington is WA. They're state codes. They both should be followed by the country code and there is no confusion. That's why it helps if abbreviations are not used OR you always add the country. I don't spell out Australian states but ALWAYS add Australia. I find South Australia, Australia or Western Australia, Australia every other phrase a bit hard to take. Similarly if people use the USA State Codes, there's not a problem if you've added USA as the reader knows that the code relates to the USA (I think people can get away with that abbreviation - there aren't many of us in the rest of the world unaware of the USA ;-) ) There's big problems if you end with a state code which is unintelligible to many - not even everyone in the USA knows all the US state codes. Cathy WA, AUS At 02:16 AM 21/11/2007, you wrote: That can't be the official list of codes as Western Australia and Washington are both WA Jack Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT put the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city, county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the + Burial Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it comes in nicely on the web page. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara, LOL - I guess we have all experienced that will I ever get this? feeling. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:10:22 -0600 Thank you so much for all your help. I'll definitely study your pages! I'll get it eventually. Surely someone with a Master's Degree in Education and many years of teaching, even technology classes (I know, it's hard to believe) will catch on sometime soon! My problem has ALWAYS been that I want to understand everything NOW, and I know that's impossible. I appreciate the patience and help from everyone. Barbara -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ _ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Works well - taking this off list as probably off topic. Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claire Spinelli Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 7:27 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Oh, yes, I always back up. Lesson learned in the mid-80's when I got my first PC! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, I cannot tell what it might have done. But I hope you had backed up your current information; go to FileRestore Family File and follow the instructions. If you are not certain how current your backup is you may wish to save it as a different .fdb rather than overwriting your current version. If you haven't backed up herewith lesson 1! Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:51:34 -0600 Uh-oh. Miss Smarty Britches (me) went ahead with what I thought was the right way to combine all those cemetery listings into one (chose combine duplicates), and it said there were 57 instances that were combined. There were only about 20 references to the same cemetery, so it must have combined something other than cemetery name addresses? I've left it with the window up so that I can easily undo, if someone will quickly tell me howor explain to me what I just did--maybe I don't want to undo? Again, what I did was this: I followed the steps to see the Event List under Master Lists-Address Lists-Events. It came up with the same cemetery listed 20 times, so that I couldn't just click on the cemetery name and see everyone buried there. So, I check-marked all those 20 and clicked on Options and then shoe Combine Duplicates. However, there were only 20 duplicate cemetery names, and the message popped up to say that 57 Event Addresses were combined. What all did it combine? Is it possible to tell? If not, is there a quick undo if I haven't left the screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dev Null Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry If I want to be able to generate a report of all people buried at (name of cemetery), then where should I have placed the name of the cemetery? In your case, if you go to View|Master Lists|Address Lists|Events... and select the cemetery, then click the Show List... button, you will see everybody with any event associated with the cemetery. This could be more than just burial events You can print the list from here or tag the individuals and do something else with them. -- Dev +++ __ __ _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
TNG is easy but tricky. Darrin is quite helpful and prompt in responding. Randy At 03:27 PM 11/20/2007, you wrote: Jennifer - I particularly liked the ancestor box charts on your website and found, when checking the website source information, that you used a program called TNG (The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilders). How easy is it to use TNG with Legacy? Claire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Crockett Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Hi Barbara I don't use the + addresses at all. If you use them and run reports you end up with repeated information as you say. The only difference being the cemetery name. I suppose it depends what your intended output is. I regularly update my website. I put the cemetery name and burial plot number in the + Burial Notes. You can see how this turns out here (scroll down to the Buried heading): http://www.colston-wenck.com/getperson.php?personID=I13tree=cols tonwenck I know that some people put the Cemetery name in the Location in various ways, such as: Sometown (Pioneer Cemetery), Some State, Some Country. To my way of thinking, the current arrangement in Legacy is not a good one. Some other programs spit up an address to let you have a local field where you can put a cemetery, church, school, house number and street in this local field. That would work well I think if you could still sort without the local field if necessary. I did suggest this a couple of years ago, but nothing came of it. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Yes, that is what I'm doing now, removing the name of the cemetery from the burial location fields. And I do have several cases where the death location is different from the burial location. But I was talking about two different places to enter the BURIAL LOCATION...that is, you put the location in the individual's information screen, and then when you click on the plus sign and get to the screen where you can put the name of the cemetery, there are blanks there, again, to put the BURIAL LOCATION again--same information you just entered on the previous screen. I was asking if there was any reason to have to repeat the same information. I understand that you could enter the exact address of the cemetery on that screen. But, if on the individual's information screen you have put city, county, state, country, and that's all the information you have, is there a reason for putting the city, county, state, country AGAIN on the Burial Address screen? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I think the reason is because a person can die in one place but be buried in another. It is pretty common actually. I too had to go through my file and remove the the name of the cemetery in that field after watching the videos (which I think should be mandatory viewing) michele - Original Message - From: Barbara Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry I understand from the training video that the individual's burial location field should only contain the city, county, state, country of burial, and not the name of the cemetery. The video instructed to input the name of the cemetery by clicking on the plus sign, choosing burial address, and putting the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. That screen also has a place to input AGAIN the city, county, state, country of the burial site. Is that necessary to do again, when it is already on the Individual's Information screen? It seems redundant to me, but then I'm just now learning about the different fields and how they might be used later Barbara Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a
[LegacyUG] Cemetery data [was Ok, how about this?]
Michele, I place the cemetery location in the Burial Location field, along with the date the person was buried. I write my location like: Woburn (Calvary Cemetery), Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA I choose to match the four location entry standard that Legacy uses, and I like to include the town first, so that it sorts with the town properly in my Master Location List. (I do this for churches, hospitals, etc., too.) I can then show list for everyone in that location to know who was buried there. Susan Daily On 11/20/07, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, how about if Legacy were to add a field dedicated for the name of the cemetery? Then it would be easy to search for persons buried in the same cemetery. I think it would be helpful to have something like that. When your file starts getting large, you can't remember who all is buried where. michele Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ok, how about this?
Anybody that would ever see my information couldn't care less what cemetery somebody was buried in; including the plot number would cause their eyes to glaze over. That is one reason why I never include cemeteries in the Buried field, church names in the Christening or Married fields, or hospital names in the Birth or Death fields. ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Mary Young To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ok, how about this? Ok, how about if Legacy were to add a field dedicated for the name of the cemetery? Why add yet more fields? Just put it in Buried location field. Result: e.g. John was buried on 2 Sep. 1884 in Plot 226, Warriston Cemetery, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. -- Mary Young Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Okay, now that I've waded through the mounds of opinions on the method of recording burial location, I have decided the way I believe will work best for me. NOW, can anyone tell me how I can bring up a list of all the burial locations where I did not record the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather by clicking on the +, choosing Burial Address, and placing the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. In other words, how can I get a list of all those so I can get back to them (I tried every search I could think of). The search choices allow me to search Burial Notes but not Burial Address, as far as I can tell. I can get a list of addresses, but do not see a way to get a list (so I can print out and use it to go to those individuals). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Actually...
I use cemetery as an event and the name of the cemetery in the description. I can easily search for everyone buried in that cemetery. Claire _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:04 PM To: legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Actually... Actually, there is already a field dedicated to the name of the cemetery. It is listed under events. The only snafoo is you can not search by that particular event. Maybe then the only thing that would be needed is to add that event to the drop down box on the search screen. Then you could search by the cemetery name in that event slot and tag the result and then you would have all the people that are buried at a particular cemetery. michele Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Buy Now http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Ron, Like you, I've put the entire location in the field such as Kenmore (Mount Olivet Cemetery), Erie County, New York, USA. The short name is actually longer - Mount Olivet Cemetery, Kenmore, Erie County, New York, USA. I use the short name in my web pages. I do this for births (hospitals, homes), baptisms (churches), deaths (same as births), burials/cremations and census (streets or full addresses of homes). I know that this is not what Legacy recommends but I have found that this works for me. Again - Legacy is so flexible and provides so many options for us. That's the best thing about it! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to do... Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong spots) Now I just have Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the additional info box to the right side. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems! It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to mix them. This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same purpose. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
I think that the only way to do this is to go to View - Master - Address Lists - Event. For each cemetery in the list, click on the Show List and tag everyone on the list. Then you can use the tags to find the people. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:53 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Okay, now that I've waded through the mounds of opinions on the method of recording burial location, I have decided the way I believe will work best for me. NOW, can anyone tell me how I can bring up a list of all the burial locations where I did not record the cemetery in the Burial Location field, but rather by clicking on the +, choosing Burial Address, and placing the name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. In other words, how can I get a list of all those so I can get back to them (I tried every search I could think of). The search choices allow me to search Burial Notes but not Burial Address, as far as I can tell. I can get a list of addresses, but do not see a way to get a list (so I can print out and use it to go to those individuals). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:50 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Barbara, Yes. If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details on how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not really, but only because the main point was to derive a method which would include the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have been buried). Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular cemetery, is that possible? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Michele, In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street). You can see the webpage output for Edward at http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery? - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry Jennifer, I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the users for more choice). I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address options except for the current addresses of living people. All my full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours easily or who
RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
Barbara In the pedigree version of a website, it looks like this: ...was born on 7 Mar 1878 in Raglan, Waikato, New Zealand, died on 1 Dec 1959 in Auckland, New Zealand at age 81, and was cremated on 3 Dec 1959 in Auckland, New Zealand (Waikumete Cemetery, ashes scattered). -- Margaret -Original Message- On Behalf Of Barbara Ford Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT put the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city, county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the + Burial Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it comes in nicely on the web page. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Problem Exiting
My program will not respond to the exit command, either from the x, or from the Exit icon, or from File-Exit. It responds to other things and even allowed me to make a backup on an external hard drive. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1140 - Release Date: 11/19/2007 7:05 PM Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adding photos--suggestions, ideas needed
I store all my family (and other) photos/pictures in C:\My Pictures -- with subfolders for families and sub-sub folders for documents, buildings, things, people, etc., pertaining to a particular family. When I add one of the photos to Legacy, I save that particular picture compressed to C:\My Pictures\Legacy-L OR C:\My Pictures\Legacy-P (NOT my Legacy program files), as I have divided them into paternal and maternal sides. What is frustrating me is this: When I SAVE a picture Legacy takes me FIRST to the folder from which I RETRIEVED the photo and then I have to maneuver around to get it to the folder I want to SAVE it to. Similarly, when I RETRIEVE a picture for Legacy from one of My Pictures family subfolders and then SAVE the compressed version, Legacy takes me FIRST to the family subfolders and NOT to either of the folders I ALWAYS save the compressed version to, i.e., Legacy-L or Legacy-P. In other words Legacy takes me to the previously-opened picture folder REGARDLESS of whether it's a folder from which I RETRIEVED a picture or whether it's one I SAVE to. My question -- When I am working in Legacy and want to RETRIEVE a photo is there ANY way to get Legacy to go first to the folder from which I last RETRIEVED a photo (while working in Legacy)? And, similarly -- When I am working in Legacy and want to SAVE a photo is there ANY way to get Legacy to go first to the folder to which I last SAVED a photo (in Legacy)? I have a lot of folders and subfolders in my family pictures and I find all the clicking I have to do to get where I want to go can be a REAL nuisance. Does anyone else have similar problems -- or how do you handle this? I like the results of the method I use -- but I HATE the process!! I do hope I have written this so that it's comprehensible! -- Pat Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
