RE: [LegacyUG] Address: Physical vs Mailing??

2008-07-25 Thread ronald ferguson

Sheri,

IMO the location is for where the place actually is and the Address is for the 
postal address. Having said that, I am one of those who only uses the Addresses 
only for living people with whom I am in contact and put the house name/number 
and street in the location fields.

This only affects the Geo-location, and the name can be briefly amended to set 
that, if necessary.


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Address: Physical vs Mailing??
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Just a little more advanced than a beginner, so I apologize for such a basic 
question, but how do you put in a location where the mailing address is 
completely different from the physical address? For example, I have some 
locations which shows City A and State as the address. Now City A is actually 
in County A.  However, the physical location is actually in another county, 
County B, same state, and not within any city/town limits, just in the county. 
Now if I put the mailing address in Legacy, that would be very misleading as it 
would point research to be done in an incorrect county, and some databases 
don’t recognize City A being in County B. But if I put in the physical 
location, it may not be found on the map as a lot of current mapping programs, 
etc., use addresses supplied by the postal service. I also have another similar 
situation in which I have some locations which are physically within the city 
limits of City A, County A, State, but the mailing address is City B, County B, 
same state, which is quite a distance away. This applies to several residences 
and cemeteries. I’m trying to input some GPS coordinates, finding the closest 
“community” areas from the Geo-Code list in Legacy and notes to help clarify 
these locations, but not sure how that is going to come out on future reports. 
Oh, and to further complicate matters, there were some major 911 address 
changes made a few years ago in both these areas and may have made some of my 
address incorrect. This is even confusing for living relatives in this area in 
explaining where they live! My first thought is to use the actual physical 
location. Suggestions?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Fry

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That enhancement would make more sense.  In looking for the lowest RIN
Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and 
although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides misleading 
results.  It should not be too difficult for Legacy to refine this by 
simply searching to see if the individual with the lowest RIN has 
parents - or grandparents.


Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents who 
have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy select 
that would be the 'correct' one?


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Mike Fry
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[LegacyUG] Prevent import of Ancestry.Com UID

2008-07-25 Thread Melody B
When I import the gedcom of the tree I have at Ancestry.Com, the import
process tells me that there is an unidentified tag UID.  I do Not want to
import this.

I go to the Customize screen.  UID is listed under Unrecognized items.
I click Create an event for this tag, enteringAncestry UID as the Event
Name.  I click on [UID]=EVEN Ancestry UID in the Import these items
box.  I then click the  Remove button which places it in the Items not
to be imported list.

Except that UID gets imported anyway.

Any idea what I need to do to get rid of this tag?  I know that I will still
have an Event in my Event definitions list.  That's trivial to get rid of.
But clicking on every single record in the family file to get rid of the UID
event for each person is hugely annoying and time wasting.

Other bugaboos...
On the Customize screen, I enter BUGFIX for Optional text to precede
unrecognized items.  I close the screen and then open the screen again.
BUGFIX is gone.  That doesn't seem quite reasonable to me.

Annoying thing about Ancestry.Com - I am the home person in my tree.  On
export, Ancestry.Com so very nicely puts Y in my name suffix.  Do what?
So every time I download my tree from Ancestry to merge in new data, there I
am as Melody Songofruth, Y.  Sheesh!  I figure they are doing it to
indicate the person who is the home person.  But it's still annoying.
Just mentioning it because it took me a while to figure out what was
responsible for it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread John Clare
It seems odd to work on the basis that the lowest RIN is the top of the
tree. I have normally found that, using  such things as IGI, I work
backwards and so the next generation back will tend to have higher RINs than
the ones before, not lower. Also, how does one define the top. Is it the
longest back on the male line or the longest back in any line? My earliest
ancestor was only found recently and the RIN is in the latest 20% of the
total. Also, how does one treat people who appear more than once in the tree
(middle English villages were very closed communities). Finally, there is
the ancestor view which can let you go up the various routes, why is there a
need for this sort of logic in the first place.
Regards
John

2008/7/25 Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  That enhancement would make more sense.  In looking for the lowest RIN
 Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and although
 it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides misleading results.  It
 should not be too difficult for Legacy to refine this by simply searching to
 see if the individual with the lowest RIN has parents - or grandparents.


 Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents who
 have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy select that
 would be the 'correct' one?

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 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg.



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[LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread Ruth Nerud
Is there a way to get the age at marriage to print in reports? Some of my 
ancestors' ages are for instance he was 65, she was 17, or he was 20, she 
was 38. I think it would be interesting to speculate why the discrepancy in 
age.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike Fry wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That enhancement would make more sense.  In looking for the lowest
RIN Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and
although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides misleading
results.  It should not be too difficult for Legacy to refine this by
simply searching to see if the individual with the lowest RIN has
parents - or grandparents.


Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents
who have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy
select that would be the 'correct' one?


For me Tree Finder should intuitively and logically mean:
All top of lines (that is all individuals who have no parents listed in 
Legacy)


Just my take on it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you Brian.  That works for me.

(May I suggest that it be integrated with the Tree Finder since it is not 
intuitive to find)?


Jeff

Brian/Support wrote:

Jeff,

Others have commented on how the tree finder works but there is a way
to find both ends of a tree starting with any given person. Go to
Search  Find  Miscellaneous tab. Under the individual section you
will see searches for the oldest direct line generation, youngest
direct line generation, direct line ancestors without parents and
direct line descendants without children.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Legacy 7 has a tool called Tree Finder (accessed from the View
menu) that I think is designed to show the individual at the top of
the various family trees.  But it apparently does so by looking for
the individual with the smallest RIN in a tree.

There is a flaw in that logic:  on one of the trees it found for me
it listed an individual with an RIN of [1].  Problem is that I have
since added
2 earlier generations to him (his father and grandfather) so
properly it is his grandfather (RIN 1227) that should be at the head
of that tree instead of individual RIN [1].

Am I doing something wrong?  Is there another way to find the
earliest individual in a tree?

Jeff





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread Brian/Support
There is NO attempt to pick the top of the tree in the tree finder. 
Legacy simply chooses the lowest numbered RIN as the person to show in 
tree finder so you have someone to select to view the group of people 
who are linked together to form the tree.


The assumption by the person who started this thread that the name 
listed in the tree finder was supposed to be the top of the tree was 
incorrect. For all the reasons given by other responders on this thread 
an attempt to find one person who is the top or the bottom of a tree 
cannot work.


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John Clare wrote:
It seems odd to work on the basis that the lowest RIN is the top of the 
tree. I have normally found that, using  such things as IGI, I work 
backwards and so the next generation back will tend to have higher RINs 
than the ones before, not lower. Also, how does one define the top. Is 
it the longest back on the male line or the longest back in any line? My 
earliest ancestor was only found recently and the RIN is in the latest 
20% of the total. Also, how does one treat people who appear more than 
once in the tree (middle English villages were very closed communities). 
Finally, there is the ancestor view which can let you go up the various 
routes, why is there a need for this sort of logic in the first place.

Regards
John

2008/7/25 Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That enhancement would make more sense.  In looking for the
lowest RIN
Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and
although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides
misleading results.  It should not be too difficult for Legacy
to refine this by simply searching to see if the individual with
the lowest RIN has parents - or grandparents.


Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents
who have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy
select that would be the 'correct' one?

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] events - creating new

2008-07-25 Thread Robert57P via Gmail
I was actually talking about defining a new event setup, not copying an 
individual events data.


In other words, I'm not taking about copying an event from John Smith over 
to Jane Smith.  Rather I'm talking about adding a brand new event.  For 
example - ALT MARRIAGE isn't in the list, so I've got to create a new event 
and define all the various sentence wordings and such.


It was clear in my mind when I typed it - I knew what I meant.  But as I 
re-read it I realize that wasn't obvious from how I typed it.  Sorry 'bout 
that.


Bob
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Robert wrote
I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option.  I 
only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE. 


You know of course that you can edit an existign event, copy it to the 
event clipdboard, using the left-hand icon at the bottom, and then 
clicking Add (in whoever's individual screen) and clicking the right-hand 
icon.??


Do you mean something in addition to this?

Pat


Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
Resending this - I don't see it in the archives, and don't recall seeing 
any responses.  If I overlooked responses, I apologize.



The recent discussion about ALT MARRIAGE event (which needs to be 
created) brought this to mind:


When adding a new event, one thing I've just begun to try (in otherwords, 
I have not generated any reports so not sure of the impact):
I start the event name with a period.  That way I can see if this is a 
precanned event that came with Legacy, or an event that I added (and 
thus that might need to be revisited and tweaked).


I would think it might be wise to do this with a modified Legacy event 
also?  Make a new one instead of modifying an existing one, the new one 
with an altered name and leave the precanned on in place?


Actually, as I think about it, it might be easier the other way around. 
Modify all the Legacy pre-canned ones to start with some character.  That 
way those surely this is set up right events would be easy to spot. 
Thus whenever I do a GEDCOM import it would be obvious which ones came in 
via the import and thus might need visiting/tweaking.  (With my current 
method of adding a . to MY events and leaving Legacy as is, the newly 
imported events would become intermixed with Legacy's pre-canned ones 
'cause neither would have that leading special character.  So it would 
not be obvious which ones might need closer inspection.)


Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option.  I 
only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you Brain.  Very helpful.

Jeff

Brian/Support wrote:

Jeff,

Others have commented on how the tree finder works but there is a way
to find both ends of a tree starting with any given person. Go to
Search  Find  Miscellaneous tab. Under the individual section you
will see searches for the oldest direct line generation, youngest
direct line generation, direct line ancestors without parents and
direct line descendants without children.

Brian
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Legacy 7 has a tool called Tree Finder (accessed from the View
menu) that I think is designed to show the individual at the top of
the various family trees.  But it apparently does so by looking for
the individual with the smallest RIN in a tree.

There is a flaw in that logic:  on one of the trees it found for me
it listed an individual with an RIN of [1].  Problem is that I have
since added
2 earlier generations to him (his father and grandfather) so
properly it is his grandfather (RIN 1227) that should be at the head
of that tree 
instead of individual RIN [1].


Am I doing something wrong?  Is there another way to find the
earliest individual in a tree?

Jeff





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RE: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread ronald ferguson



 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem
 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:59:31 -0400

 Mike Fry wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That enhancement would make more sense. In looking for the lowest
 RIN Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and
 although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides misleading
 results. It should not be too difficult for Legacy to refine this by
 simply searching to see if the individual with the lowest RIN has
 parents - or grandparents.

 Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents
 who have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy
 select that would be the 'correct' one?

 For me Tree Finder should intuitively and logically mean:
 All top of lines (that is all individuals who have no parents listed in
 Legacy)

 Just my take on it.

 Jeff


Jeff,

That could just as easily be a branch and not a tree. The latter includes *all* 
directly related people. My tree contains two main branches my father's and 
mother's after which there are many, many other branches all terminating with 
someone whose parents I haven't found, but they are all part of my tree.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread Edward A. Feustel

Ruth Nerud wrote:
Is there a way to get the age at marriage to print in reports? Some of 
my ancestors' ages are for instance he was 65, she was 17, or he was 20, 
she was 38. I think it would be interesting to speculate why the 
discrepancy in age.


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A son instead of a father? The ages work out.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Addendum to my relative who never married but adopted a child problem

2008-07-25 Thread Pat Jones
Brian,

I'm running Version 7 fully updated on an XP machine, also fully updated.

I went to the Include Main Entries For and ticked the Standard Format as you 
requested.  I also have Show line back to starting person and Show spouses 
for children who will have a main entry ticked.  Then I ran the Preview of the 
report with the error and the error is still there.  The first person (Sarah 
McKaig) is married and her husband died in 1911; that is correct.  The 
following person (Margaret McKaig) was not married but she adopted a child.  It 
is the entry for Margaret on the report tht shows the incorrect d. 1911.  Could 
it have something to do with me going to the Marriage Information, then Wording 
Options screen for Margaret and doing an override for the wifes' first 
marriage, She never married.  Howard Duff was adopted.  Of course the icon 
for the spouses on the basic information page lights up and if clicked on the 
Husbands of Margaret McKaig it shows unknown.

Can you suggest a more correct way to do all of this if it will clear up all 
the problem and still show the adopted child? Or does some change need to be 
made to the program to accomodate relationships like this?

Pat
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a child problem


  Pat,

  There is a problem report recorded in our tracking system about carry 
  over of dates from people with them to following people without dates.

  What settings are you using for the Include main entries section on the 
  descendant report screen? If you select the standard of including main 
  entries only for individuals with children the report will work 
  correctly. It is the other options for main entries that can cause this 
  problem with carried over dates.

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  Pat Jones wrote:
   Sherry and all,
   
   I think the part of my problem about the lingering d. 1911 may 
   be some sort of bug.  I've been playing around with trying 
   different things after noticing that the sister preceding my 
   relative had married someone who died in 1911 and show that in 
   the descendant report printout of all the family.  So I removed 
   the death date for that party and then tried the descendant 
   report again - and the d. 1911 that was the wording I wanted to 
   get rid off disappeared for my relative.  Of course, it is also 
   missing as the death date for the husband of my relatives next 
   oldest sibling as well.
   
   When I put the death date back in for that husband it reappears 
   as the lingering d. 1911 in my relatives report. 
   
   
   
   
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread Jenny M Benson

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For me Tree Finder should intuitively and logically mean:
All top of lines (that is all individuals who have no parents listed 
in Legacy)


How on earth could that possibly be logical?  There might be numerous 
people with no parents listed in a single tree,  Tree Finder sets out to 
indicate how many separate trees there are in a file and is succeeds 
admirably.


As for whether it indicates the top or bottom person in a tree or even 
someone right in the middle - what does it matter?  I sometimes thing 
people expect their software to do *everything* for them!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Prevent import of Ancestry.Com UID

2008-07-25 Thread Brian/Support

Melody,

Have you tried just leaving the UID as an unrecognized item. If you do 
Legacy should list the UID entries from the Ancestry GEDCOM in the error 
report when the GEDCOM is imported.


If you will send me one of those Ancestry downloaded GEDCOMs privately 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will test the customize Option on import 
from a GEDCOM. We have a problem recorded where the customization is not 
working when you export to a GEDCOM, perhaps there is a similar problem 
with the import customization as well.


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Melody B wrote:
When I import the gedcom of the tree I have at Ancestry.Com, the import 
process tells me that there is an unidentified tag UID.  I do Not want 
to import this.


I go to the Customize screen.  UID is listed under Unrecognized 
items.  I click Create an event for this tag, enteringAncestry UID 
as the Event Name.  I click on [UID]=EVEN Ancestry UID in the 
Import these items box.  I then click the  Remove button which 
places it in the Items not to be imported list. 


Except that UID gets imported anyway.

Any idea what I need to do to get rid of this tag?  I know that I will 
still have an Event in my Event definitions list.  That's trivial to get 
rid of.  But clicking on every single record in the family file to get 
rid of the UID event for each person is hugely annoying and time wasting.


Other bugaboos...
On the Customize screen, I enter BUGFIX for Optional text to precede 
unrecognized items.  I close the screen and then open the screen 
again.  BUGFIX is gone.  That doesn't seem quite reasonable to me.


Annoying thing about Ancestry.Com - I am the home person in my tree.  
On export, Ancestry.Com so very nicely puts Y in my name suffix.  Do 
what?  So every time I download my tree from Ancestry to merge in new 
data, there I am as Melody Songofruth, Y.  Sheesh!  I figure they are 
doing it to indicate the person who is the home person.  But it's 
still annoying.  Just mentioning it because it took me a while to figure 
out what was responsible for it.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
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For me Tree Finder should intuitively and logically mean:
All top of lines (that is all individuals who have no parents listed in 
Legacy)

Although I don't agree with your definition of tree (we can agree to
disagree), I should point out that GenViewer calls these islands.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread Lill Ann Parry
There is an error in the selection of the lowest numbered tree for this. 
I am RIN 1 in my database, however for the tree where I am a member, the 
individual with RIN 14 displays who happens to be a wife of a second cousin.


Lill Ann

Brian/Support wrote:
There is NO attempt to pick the top of the tree in the tree finder. 
Legacy simply chooses the lowest numbered RIN as the person to show in 
tree finder so you have someone to select to view the group of people 
who are linked together to form the tree.


The assumption by the person who started this thread that the name 
listed in the tree finder was supposed to be the top of the tree was 
incorrect. For all the reasons given by other responders on this 
thread an attempt to find one person who is the top or the bottom of a 
tree cannot work.


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John Clare wrote:
It seems odd to work on the basis that the lowest RIN is the top of 
the tree. I have normally found that, using  such things as IGI, I 
work backwards and so the next generation back will tend to have 
higher RINs than the ones before, not lower. Also, how does one 
define the top. Is it the longest back on the male line or the 
longest back in any line? My earliest ancestor was only found 
recently and the RIN is in the latest 20% of the total. Also, how 
does one treat people who appear more than once in the tree (middle 
English villages were very closed communities). Finally, there is the 
ancestor view which can let you go up the various routes, why is 
there a need for this sort of logic in the first place.

Regards
John

2008/7/25 Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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That enhancement would make more sense.  In looking for the
lowest RIN
Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree, and
although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides
misleading results.  It should not be too difficult for Legacy
to refine this by simply searching to see if the individual with
the lowest RIN has parents - or grandparents.


Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents
who have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy
select that would be the 'correct' one?

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RE: [LegacyUG] events - creating new

2008-07-25 Thread ronald ferguson

Actually, Bob, if you mean a template for all those blank fields for sentence 
structure, that is not a bad idea at all. Why not submit it as an enhancement?

It wouldn't matter too much if they have to be amended quite a bit by the user 
as, at least, the guide lines are there. 


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] events - creating new
 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:08:24 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I was actually talking about defining a new event setup, not copying an
 individual events data.

 In other words, I'm not taking about copying an event from John Smith over
 to Jane Smith. Rather I'm talking about adding a brand new event. For
 example - ALT MARRIAGE isn't in the list, so I've got to create a new event
 and define all the various sentence wordings and such.

 It was clear in my mind when I typed it - I knew what I meant. But as I
 re-read it I realize that wasn't obvious from how I typed it. Sorry 'bout
 that.

 Bob
 - Original Message -
 From: Pat Hickin 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] events - creating new


 Robert wrote
 I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option. I
 only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE. 

 You know of course that you can edit an existign event, copy it to the
 event clipdboard, using the left-hand icon at the bottom, and then
 clicking Add (in whoever's individual screen) and clicking the right-hand
 icon.??

 Do you mean something in addition to this?

 Pat


 Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
 Resending this - I don't see it in the archives, and don't recall seeing
 any responses. If I overlooked responses, I apologize.


 The recent discussion about ALT MARRIAGE event (which needs to be
 created) brought this to mind:

 When adding a new event, one thing I've just begun to try (in otherwords,
 I have not generated any reports so not sure of the impact):
 I start the event name with a period. That way I can see if this is a
 precanned event that came with Legacy, or an event that I added (and
 thus that might need to be revisited and tweaked).

 I would think it might be wise to do this with a modified Legacy event
 also? Make a new one instead of modifying an existing one, the new one
 with an altered name and leave the precanned on in place?

 Actually, as I think about it, it might be easier the other way around.
 Modify all the Legacy pre-canned ones to start with some character. That
 way those surely this is set up right events would be easy to spot.
 Thus whenever I do a GEDCOM import it would be obvious which ones came in
 via the import and thus might need visiting/tweaking. (With my current
 method of adding a . to MY events and leaving Legacy as is, the newly
 imported events would become intermixed with Legacy's pre-canned ones
 'cause neither would have that leading special character. So it would
 not be obvious which ones might need closer inspection.)

 Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 I wish Legacy had a COPY EVENT, but I'm not seeing that as an option. I
 only see ADD, DELETE, MERGE.

 Bob


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Re: [LegacyUG] Prevent import of Ancestry.Com UID

2008-07-25 Thread Melody B
If I leave the UID as unrecognized, then won't it just go into the Notes?
In which case, then I'll have to edit all the people to pull info out of the
Notes.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Brian/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Melody,

 Have you tried just leaving the UID as an unrecognized item. If you do
 Legacy should list the UID entries from the Ancestry GEDCOM in the error
 report when the GEDCOM is imported.

 If you will send me one of those Ancestry downloaded GEDCOMs privately to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will test the customize Option on import from
 a GEDCOM. We have a problem recorded where the customization is not working
 when you export to a GEDCOM, perhaps there is a similar problem with the
 import customization as well.

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 Thanks.

 Melody B wrote:

 When I import the gedcom of the tree I have at Ancestry.Com, the import
 process tells me that there is an unidentified tag UID.  I do Not want to
 import this.

 I go to the Customize screen.  UID is listed under Unrecognized items.
  I click Create an event for this tag, enteringAncestry UID as the
 Event Name.  I click on [UID]=EVEN Ancestry UID in the Import these
 items box.  I then click the  Remove button which places it in the
 Items not to be imported list.
 Except that UID gets imported anyway.

 Any idea what I need to do to get rid of this tag?  I know that I will
 still have an Event in my Event definitions list.  That's trivial to get rid
 of.  But clicking on every single record in the family file to get rid of
 the UID event for each person is hugely annoying and time wasting.

 Other bugaboos...
 On the Customize screen, I enter BUGFIX for Optional text to precede
 unrecognized items.  I close the screen and then open the screen again.
  BUGFIX is gone.  That doesn't seem quite reasonable to me.

 Annoying thing about Ancestry.Com - I am the home person in my tree.  On
 export, Ancestry.Com so very nicely puts Y in my name suffix.  Do what?
  So every time I download my tree from Ancestry to merge in new data, there
 I am as Melody Songofruth, Y.  Sheesh!  I figure they are doing it to
 indicate the person who is the home person.  But it's still annoying.
  Just mentioning it because it took me a while to figure out what was
 responsible for it.

 --
 Take care,
 Melody
 If not now, when?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread John Carter
 Ruth Nerud wrote:
 Is there a way to get the age at marriage to print in reports? Some of
 my ancestors' ages are for instance he was 65, she was 17, or he was 20,
 she was 38. I think it would be interesting to speculate why the
 discrepancy in age.

 Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A son instead of a father? The ages work out.
 Ed

That's one possible explanation.  In my wife's lines, there are 4
generations where the firstborn son was named Robert and 3 generations
where the firstborn son was named James - there's been a lot of confusion
as to which one is which ;-)

Depending on the place and time, the accepred practice may have been for a
young woman to marry a much older man because he was established and could
provide for her.  Given a choice of marrying someone her age and living in
a hovel versus marrying someone 30 or more years her senior and living in
relative wealth, which option would she take?

Also depending on place and time, the acceptable marriage age for a girl
could have been 14.

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[LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread Janis Gilmore
I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a particular
individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source to each of about
15 events. I am manually removing it from each event (except the 1900 census
event to which it belongs).

 

I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am not
aware?

 

Thanks for any input.

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread ronald ferguson

Janice,

I have found it happening occasionally, but when I've found the problem it has 
usually been far too late for me to think back. I suspect it has been due to me 
inadvertently having two of the sources filled in when using the old style 
clipboard as in version 6.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:24:22 -0700







I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a particular 
individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source to each of about 15 
events. I am manually removing it from each event (except the 1900 census event 
to which it belongs).





I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of Legacy. 
Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have inadvertently 
caused this to happen by doing something of which I am not aware?





Thanks for any input.





Janis Walker Gilmore



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Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread John S. Adams
You probably clicked on the 3 bars of the Source Clipboard when attaching 
the source to the 1900 census event.  This is labelled, Add Clipboard 
Source to All Used Fields.  You should have clicked on the single bar, Add 
Clipboard Source to Current Field.  I've made this mistake enough times to 
be an expert at it.


John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events


I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a particular
individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source to each of 
about
15 events. I am manually removing it from each event (except the 1900 
census

event to which it belongs).



I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am not
aware?



Thanks for any input.



Janis Walker Gilmore





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[LegacyUG] definite source problem

2008-07-25 Thread Janis Gilmore
I definitely have some sort of sourcing problem going. I would love to know
if anyone else if having a similar problem.

 

I am doing some editing on an individual named John Lawson Clark. I  earlier
noted that for some reason the 1900 census of his son John C. Clark had
attached itself to every event for John Lawson Clark. I weeded all of those
instances out for John Lawson Clark. I also replaced some of the John Lawson
Clark census entries with newer sources, written with the Source Writer.
When viewed in the Assigned Sources window for John Lawson Clark, all of
these sources appear to be in order and proper.

 

However, when I run a chronology report or an individual report for John
Lawson Clark, some sources for John C. Clark appear appended to the reports.
These sources do NOT appear in the Assigned sources window, but appear
consistently in the report sources.

 

Can anyone shed any light on what is happening here? I am working in Legacy
7.0. I have backed up the file and run a check/repair. The erroneous sources
continue to appear in reports.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread Ruth Nerud
I think I might have written this wrong. In one instance the man was 65 and 
the woman 17; in another instance the man was 20, the woman was 38. I'd just 
like those ages to print in the reports so the sentence override would read 
something like: John and Mary were married on xxx(date). John was 65 and 
Mary was 17 at the time of the marriage. I suppose I could put that in the 
General Notes, but with almost 30,000 names in my database, that would be a 
big undertaking, but I'm tempted!


Ruth
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Ruth Nerud wrote:
Is there a way to get the age at marriage to print in reports? Some of my 
ancestors' ages are for instance he was 65, she was 17, or he was 20, she 
was 38. I think it would be interesting to speculate why the discrepancy 
in age.


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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A son instead of a father? The ages work out.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ronald ferguson wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:59:31 -0400

Mike Fry wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That enhancement would make more sense. In looking for the lowest
RIN Legacy is obviously trying to determine the top of the tree,
and although it sometimes succeeds it also sometimes provides
misleading results. It should not be too difficult for Legacy to
refine this by simply searching to see if the individual with the
lowest RIN has parents - or grandparents.


Okay then! I see where you're going with this. But with two parents
who have their own parents, which of the two branches would Legacy
select that would be the 'correct' one?


For me Tree Finder should intuitively and logically mean:
All top of lines (that is all individuals who have no parents
listed in Legacy)

Just my take on it.

Jeff



Jeff,

That could just as easily be a branch and not a tree. The latter
includes *all* directly related people. My tree contains two main
branches my father's and mother's after which there are many, many
other branches all terminating with someone whose parents I haven't
found, but they are all part of my tree.


Good point.

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Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Janis, on the source clipboard, if you click the button with three lines it 
will attach the current source to all used fields. I suspect that you 
inadvertently clicked this button on some of your people.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: Janis Gilmore



I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a particular 
individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source to each of about 
15 events. I am manually removing it from each event (except the 1900 census 
event to which it belongs).


I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of 
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have 
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am not 
aware?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OK.  I guess I am wrong.  Let's leave it at that.

Thanks everyone.

Jeff

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:

What should be integrated? You want everyone who doesn't have a
parent to come up in tree finder? In my tree, that would be hundreds
of people! I don't do any searching for parents of those who marry
into the family. Not everyone is doing ancestor research, and even
those who are research collateral lines, too, so for a lot of people
this would be an unusuable and/or undesirable feature. But if you're
want to know which of your direct line ancestors does not have
parents, you can search for that. Look at the miscellaneous tab on
search. 


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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Thank you Brian.  That works for me.

(May I suggest that it be integrated with the Tree Finder since it
is not intuitive to find)?

Jeff

Brian/Support wrote:

Jeff,

Others have commented on how the tree finder works but there is a
way to find both ends of a tree starting with any given person. Go
to Search  Find  Miscellaneous tab. Under the individual section
you will see searches for the oldest direct line generation,
youngest direct line generation, direct line ancestors without
parents and direct line descendants without children.

Brian
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Legacy 7 has a tool called Tree Finder (accessed from the View
menu) that I think is designed to show the individual at the top of
the various family trees.  But it apparently does so by looking for
the individual with the smallest RIN in a tree.

There is a flaw in that logic:  on one of the trees it found for me
it listed an individual with an RIN of [1].  Problem is that I have
since added
2 earlier generations to him (his father and grandfather) so
properly it is his grandfather (RIN 1227) that should be at the
head of that tree instead of individual RIN [1].

Am I doing something wrong?  Is there another way to find the
earliest individual in a tree?

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Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread Jenny M Benson

Janis Gilmore wrote
I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a 
particular individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source 
to each of about 15 events. I am manually removing it from each event 
(except the 1900 census event to which it belongs).


 

I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of 
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have 
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am 
not aware?


You probably accidentally clicked on the three bars icon when pasting 
a Source from the clipboard.  This pastes the Source for all used 
fields, not just the one where the cursor is.


I've done it myself a few times, particularly when I have forgotten that 
as well as Sourcing the fields at the top of the screen (which I wanted 
to Source) it will also Source the Events at the bottom (which I didn't 
want.)

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RE: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread Janis Gilmore
Thanks to all who pointed out that I might have clicked the 3-bar icon
instead of the single. Very likely.

However, the other problem persists. Several sources have attached
themselves to an individual to whom they have no more relationship than that
they belong to his son.

I have tried replacing the sources. I rewrote them using the new Source
Writer (one was an old-style census citation, which I replaced with a new
one), but the new one has stuck to the wrong person, too.

This is really disturbing, as I am presently outputting an ancestry report
for a cousin (in return for the hand-quilted baby quilt that she recently
made for my first granddaughter from our mutual grandmother's old quilt
scraps).

This is the only individual whom I have found to be affected in this manner,
as I edit the full ancestor report, which runs to 130-some pages.

Come on, Ron. Surely YOU can come up with something! :-)

Janis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

Janis Gilmore wrote
I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a 
particular individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source 
to each of about 15 events. I am manually removing it from each event 
(except the 1900 census event to which it belongs).

 

I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of 
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have 
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am 
not aware?

You probably accidentally clicked on the three bars icon when pasting 
a Source from the clipboard.  This pastes the Source for all used 
fields, not just the one where the cursor is.

I've done it myself a few times, particularly when I have forgotten that 
as well as Sourcing the fields at the top of the screen (which I wanted 
to Source) it will also Source the Events at the bottom (which I didn't 
want.)
-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
Perhaps you will need to unlink this individual, delete him, then re-enter 
and relink.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks to all who pointed out that I might have clicked the 3-bar icon
instead of the single. Very likely.

However, the other problem persists. Several sources have attached
themselves to an individual to whom they have no more relationship than that
they belong to his son.

I have tried replacing the sources. I rewrote them using the new Source
Writer (one was an old-style census citation, which I replaced with a new
one), but the new one has stuck to the wrong person, too.

This is really disturbing, as I am presently outputting an ancestry report
for a cousin (in return for the hand-quilted baby quilt that she recently
made for my first granddaughter from our mutual grandmother's old quilt
scraps).

This is the only individual whom I have found to be affected in this manner,
as I edit the full ancestor report, which runs to 130-some pages.

Come on, Ron. Surely YOU can come up with something! :-)

Janis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

Janis Gilmore wrote

I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a
particular individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source
to each of about 15 events. I am manually removing it from each event
(except the 1900 census event to which it belongs).



I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am
not aware?


You probably accidentally clicked on the three bars icon when pasting
a Source from the clipboard.  This pastes the Source for all used
fields, not just the one where the cursor is.

I've done it myself a few times, particularly when I have forgotten that
as well as Sourcing the fields at the top of the screen (which I wanted
to Source) it will also Source the Events at the bottom (which I didn't
want.)
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Fry

Ruth Nerud wrote:
I think I might have written this wrong. In one instance the man was 65 
and the woman 17; in another instance the man was 20, the woman was 38. 
I'd just like those ages to print in the reports so the sentence 
override would read something like: John and Mary were married on 
xxx(date). John was 65 and Mary was 17 at the time of the marriage. I 
suppose I could put that in the General Notes, but with almost 30,000 
names in my database, that would be a big undertaking, but I'm tempted!


One way this might be done is to create one or two Master Events 
labelled Age At Marriage or Husbands/Wifes Age At Marriage. The age 
could go in the Description field and the Date and Place used as per 
usual. Make sure these Events are inserted into the respective 
individual timelines in the correct place and that the wording for the 
Master Event is as you want.


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
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[LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

2008-07-25 Thread Alinda Angerville
Trying to decide once and for all if I should upgrade to ver 7 and although

I am leaning towards upgrading I still haven't made my mind up yet 

 

Any  current ver 7 users(upgraded from 6) care to chime in on this - it

would be appreciated 

 

Thanks in advance

 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Age in reports

2008-07-25 Thread Susan Daily
Ruth,
I did a search in Help and I think what you want is only found in the
Chronology Report:
Chronology Report (Deluxe Edition only)
The Chronology Report is produced from the Chronology View screen.
(See Chronology View for more information or Chronology Report Example
for a sample report.)  This report shows an individual and all the
surrounding events associated with that person.  These include the
person's birth, christening, death and burial information, his or her
individual events, marriages and marriage events, the birth of
children, parents, and the individual and marriage notes.  All these
events are arranged on the view in sorted order so you can see what
affected this person throughout his or her life.
Options
You can include and exclude many items in this report, including a
timeline chart and ages column to further illustrate the life events
of the individual.  These options are all selected on the Chronology
View Options screen.

But this only shows the age for one spouse.

Reminder to the list - from Family View, click ctrl-a to see ages of
both persons (on screen) for major data. You can print a report from
that screen, but only for the couple in view. Too bad you can't select
a range of RINs!

Susan Daily

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Ruth Nerud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to get the age at marriage to print in reports? Some of my
 ancestors' ages are for instance he was 65, she was 17, or he was 20, she
 was 38. I think it would be interesting to speculate why the discrepancy in
 age.

 Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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RE: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

2008-07-25 Thread ronald ferguson

Actually, Janis, I am quite confused!

I may have missed some of the details as I have been away, but as I understand 
it imitially you had some sources that were attached to events in the reports 
of person A's son when they really should have only been attached to events 
relating to person A.

These sources were not visible on the assigned sources screen but only in the 
report either Chronological or individual. I am not very clear whether they 
were attached to all events - including the Vital Events (BMD etc).

You mentioned earlier that you were deleting them but how - if they are not in 
the assigned screen? If they only appear in reports they would still have 
reference numbers indicating to which events they are attached. Is there 
anything significant here? Have you looked at the Sources Master List and if so 
does the son appear against the list of users of that source? If there are not 
many users of this Master Source would it be possible to delete it?

I appreciate that these are rather random thoughts but as yet I cannot picture 
clearly what is happening - a further thought - what happens if you export just 
the son to a Gedcom (with sources etc) and import him back into a new Family 
file - might tell us something.

Ron Ferguson

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events
 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:16 -0700

 Thanks to all who pointed out that I might have clicked the 3-bar icon
 instead of the single. Very likely.

 However, the other problem persists. Several sources have attached
 themselves to an individual to whom they have no more relationship than that
 they belong to his son.

 I have tried replacing the sources. I rewrote them using the new Source
 Writer (one was an old-style census citation, which I replaced with a new
 one), but the new one has stuck to the wrong person, too.

 This is really disturbing, as I am presently outputting an ancestry report
 for a cousin (in return for the hand-quilted baby quilt that she recently
 made for my first granddaughter from our mutual grandmother's old quilt
 scraps).

 This is the only individual whom I have found to be affected in this manner,
 as I edit the full ancestor report, which runs to 130-some pages.

 Come on, Ron. Surely YOU can come up with something! :-)

 Janis

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
 Benson
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:11 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] source attaching to numerous events

 Janis Gilmore wrote
I have a source which has attached itself to every event for a
particular individual. Clearly, I did not manually attach this source
to each of about 15 events. I am manually removing it from each event
(except the 1900 census event to which it belongs).



I have seen this happen a time or two before, in previous versions of
Legacy. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible that I have
inadvertently caused this to happen by doing something of which I am
not aware?

 You probably accidentally clicked on the three bars icon when pasting
 a Source from the clipboard. This pastes the Source for all used
 fields, not just the one where the cursor is.

 I've done it myself a few times, particularly when I have forgotten that
 as well as Sourcing the fields at the top of the screen (which I wanted
 to Source) it will also Source the Events at the bottom (which I didn't
 want.)
 --
 Jenny M Benson


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[LegacyUG] Missing Clipboard icons

2008-07-25 Thread Judy Wardlaw
I am using Legacy 7, the latest update and  I notice that I do not have the 
new clipboard icons, discussed in a previous thread, displayed.on the 
assigned sources window.  I just have the 3 that were there in Legacy 6 . 
Can any one tell me why this is so?
Judy 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Error in BegDOC!, Could not Lock File

2008-07-25 Thread Ellaine Goodall
Many thanks Lorna - I sent for a booklet and it arrived today.
Ellaine
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Dymon 
  To: legacyusergroup 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:02 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Error in BegDOC!, Could not Lock File


  a) Saw error
  Error in BegDOC! after going to publish a pdf.

  I noticed I was using 7.0.110 and there's a new version 118.

  b) After downloading 118 of Charting and opening the Chart I saved before 
update
  I get an error message
  Could not Lock File

  I clicked OK

  c) I selected another file to open
  Tried to create a PDF againg
  Error in BegDOC! after going to publish a pdf.
  this is with version 118

  d) Now tried to export to a bmp
  See error message Can not create file to c:\xyz\charts the system can not 
find the specified path

  Will create path and try again.

  e) After creating paths now BMP and PDF save no problem.

  Looks like same problem but originally I got 2 different error messages.
  rather than Error in BegDOC it would have been nice to know it was a path 
folder issue that was non existant.

  Maria



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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Clipboard icons

2008-07-25 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
There are no new clipboard icons. The same icons were available in V6. The 
3 bars icon that was discussed in the other thread is available in the Edit 
Individual window and the Edit Marriage window.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: Judy Wardlaw


I am using Legacy 7, the latest update and  I notice that I do not have the 
new clipboard icons, discussed in a previous thread, displayed.on the 
assigned sources window.  I just have the 3 that were there in Legacy 6 . 
Can any one tell me why this is so?

Judy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Clipboard icons

2008-07-25 Thread Judy Wardlaw

Thanks Elizabeth
Judy


There are no new clipboard icons. The same icons were available in V6. 
The 3 bars icon that was discussed in the other thread is available in the 
Edit Individual window and the Edit Marriage window.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: Judy Wardlaw


I am using Legacy 7, the latest update and  I notice that I do not have 
the new clipboard icons, discussed in a previous thread, displayed.on the 
assigned sources window.  I just have the 3 that were there in Legacy 6 . 
Can any one tell me why this is so?

Judy





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[LegacyUG] V7 Entering new blood relative, relationship does not appear

2008-07-25 Thread Edward Barnard
I've checked the mailing list archive for June and July, and don't see  
an answer to this one...


In Legacy Deluxe version 6, once I had Set Relationships, the Family  
view shows Father, Grandmother, Great-Aunt, etc. When I add a new  
person, that person's relationship (if any) immediately appears.  
Deluxe V7 works the same way, except that when I add a NEW person  
(e.g., grandfather of Self), the relationship stays blank. I need to  
re-do Set Relationships (or whatever it's called) every time I add a  
new person. Is there a setting I need to change? This seems a weird  
loss of functionality :)


Thanks,

Ed Barnard
Researching Barry County Michigan: Thompson, Lewis, Helsel




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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Entering new blood relative, relationship does not appear

2008-07-25 Thread Jay S. Van Zeeland
Ed,

Included in version 7 there is much more robust set relationship calculator
and it will calculate all relations through a selected number of generations
for both blood and non-blood relationships. This allows you to see all of
the relationships that you have with the individual. Next to the
relationship shown on those that you have multiple relationships there is a
plus sign which will allow you to see more, by right clicking and choosing
view relationships.

But with this increased functionality comes additional processing overhead
that the programmers probably decided that it would be best to avoid when
adding another individual.

I love the new relationship calculator, but look at it like I do the
relation colors. Just as in version 6 I had to reapply the colors, I also
have to reapply the relationships. It doesn't take much time.

Jay


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward
Barnard
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Entering new blood relative, relationship does not
appear

I've checked the mailing list archive for June and July, and don't see  
an answer to this one...

In Legacy Deluxe version 6, once I had Set Relationships, the Family  
view shows Father, Grandmother, Great-Aunt, etc. When I add a new  
person, that person's relationship (if any) immediately appears.  
Deluxe V7 works the same way, except that when I add a NEW person  
(e.g., grandfather of Self), the relationship stays blank. I need to  
re-do Set Relationships (or whatever it's called) every time I add a  
new person. Is there a setting I need to change? This seems a weird  
loss of functionality :)

Thanks,

Ed Barnard
Researching Barry County Michigan: Thompson, Lewis, Helsel




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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Entering new blood relative, relationship does not appear

2008-07-25 Thread Edward Barnard
Jay, thanks for confirming what's happening. Yes, the new calculator  
is nice!

Ed

On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Jay S. Van Zeeland wrote:


Ed,

Included in version 7 there is much more robust set relationship  
calculator
and it will calculate all relations through a selected number of  
generations
for both blood and non-blood relationships. This allows you to see  
all of

the relationships that you have with the individual. Next to the
relationship shown on those that you have multiple relationships  
there is a
plus sign which will allow you to see more, by right clicking and  
choosing

view relationships.

But with this increased functionality comes additional processing  
overhead
that the programmers probably decided that it would be best to avoid  
when

adding another individual.

I love the new relationship calculator, but look at it like I do the
relation colors. Just as in version 6 I had to reapply the colors, I  
also

have to reapply the relationships. It doesn't take much time.

Jay


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
Edward

Barnard
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Entering new blood relative, relationship  
does not

appear

I've checked the mailing list archive for June and July, and don't see
an answer to this one...

In Legacy Deluxe version 6, once I had Set Relationships, the Family
view shows Father, Grandmother, Great-Aunt, etc. When I add a new
person, that person's relationship (if any) immediately appears.
Deluxe V7 works the same way, except that when I add a NEW person
(e.g., grandfather of Self), the relationship stays blank. I need to
re-do Set Relationships (or whatever it's called) every time I add a
new person. Is there a setting I need to change? This seems a weird
loss of functionality :)

Thanks,

Ed Barnard
Researching Barry County Michigan: Thompson, Lewis, Helsel




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Re: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Carneal

Responded off list.  -Robert

At 2008-07-25  05:11 PM, you wrote:

Trying to decide once and for all if I should upgrade to ver 7 and although
I am leaning towards upgrading I still haven't made my mind up yet

Any  current ver 7 users(upgraded from 6) care to chime in on this - it
would be appreciated

Thanks in advance





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RE: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

2008-07-25 Thread Sam Weldon
I would say upgrade.  Legacy is the best genealogy program around, I've been
using it for ten years or more.  I have at one time or another used just
about all of them PAF (very good), FTM (ok but is very pricey and kind of
bossy), family origin (Out of business), and several others no real
complaints against any.  Legacy has some problems but they are being worked
on, some solutions may never be realized just lived with till it can be
changed to something that works.  As our operating system changes the
programs change to utilize their improvements so eventually you will have to
upgrade so might as well upgrade and improve your use a small amount at a
time rather than get far behind and have to make a bunch of changes.  Have a
good day.

 

Samuel Weldon
9344 Lait Dr.
El Paso, TX. 79925-6639
915-592-6935  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~weldonfamily

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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

 

Trying to decide once and for all if I should upgrade to ver 7 and although

I am leaning towards upgrading I still haven't made my mind up yet 

 

Any  current ver 7 users(upgraded from 6) care to chime in on this - it

would be appreciated 

 

Thanks in advance

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

2008-07-25 Thread Valerie Garton
Robert could you please respond to me as well as I have the same
deliberation ?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow 
Wexford 
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Carneal
Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

Responded off list.  -Robert

At 2008-07-25  05:11 PM, you wrote:
Trying to decide once and for all if I should upgrade to ver 7 and although
I am leaning towards upgrading I still haven't made my mind up yet

Any  current ver 7 users(upgraded from 6) care to chime in on this - it
would be appreciated

Thanks in advance




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[LegacyUG] Error 53

2008-07-25 Thread Roxanne
When I attempt to search via the Search Internet for Current Person feature, 
I get the Error 53- File Not Found message. I have been having problems with my 
computer, due to my boyfriend's accidental downloading of what he thought was 
an antivirus program (IE Antivirus). I was able to finally remove the offending 
program, but didn't think I lost any important files.

I have the latest version 7, Deluxe edition.

Roxanne Baird
Chattanooga, TN



  



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[LegacyUG] Printing single pages of a descendant report

2008-07-25 Thread Patti Stott
I just printed out a descendant report, and because of a printer jam, I lost 
one of the pages. How do I print just that page, without reprinting the whole 
report? I am using version 5.

Thank you,
Patti


  



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Re: [LegacyUG] about to install 7

2008-07-25 Thread Leon Chapman
Yes!
Always make a backup of all your Legacy files  pictures before you
upgrade to a new version.
You may want to create a GEDCOM, but it is not necessary.

Chap

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Valerie Garton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am about to install Legacy 7.

 Should I make  backups of all my files or gedcoms ?

 Do I do these on the computer or send them to a disk and if so how ?

 I am afraid I am feeling very apprehensive about the whole deal ?

 Any help and support would be appreciated and thank you.

 I think I should go for a walk first while I await some help.

 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow 
 Wexford
 Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON




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Re: [LegacyUG] about to install 7

2008-07-25 Thread Gary Templeman
You should routinely (after any data entry or changes) be making backups of 
your files anyway, so the answer to that is yes. For purposes of the 
upgrade, I would save the backup files to a different folder on the same 
computer (not really necessary but can't hurt). There is no reason to burn 
to a CD, email them to someone else, etc. (You *should* do at least 
occasional off-site backups for your normal ones however)


As to the gedcoms, assuming the information included in those files was 
imported into a Legacy file, or they were created FROM your Legacy data, 
there is really no need to specifically back them up. The Legacy 
installation itself is not going to change or move the existing gedcoms in 
any way.


If you installed Legacy 6 in the default location then you can install 
Legacy 7 over the top.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: Valerie Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] about to install 7



I am about to install Legacy 7.

Should I make  backups of all my files or gedcoms ?

Do I do these on the computer or send them to a disk and if so how ?

I am afraid I am feeling very apprehensive about the whole deal ?

Any help and support would be appreciated and thank you.

I think I should go for a walk first while I await some help.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow 
Wexford
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON




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Re: [LegacyUG] To Upgrade or not - going from Ver 6 to Ver 7

2008-07-25 Thread JLB
I think it depends what kind of things impress you.  I think you can try 
Version 7 for free and probably decide better for yourself than anyone 
else could possibly tell you.  Although the free version won't show you 
much you haven't already seen in Version 6.  So maybe not.  It's a 29 or 
22 dollar investment.  It's not like you're deciding on your next car 
model.   If you don't like it you can export your family as a gedcom and 
import it back into Version 6 if you've moved on somewhat in the 
meantime.  In some ways I like it alot, in some ways I don't like it at 
all and am waiting for things to get fixed, but for that matter, I'm 
still also waiting for them to murder the Research Guidance splash 
screen from version 6 and who knows if that'll ever get done.

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Alinda Angerville wrote:


Trying to decide once and for all if I should upgrade to ver 7 and 
although


I am leaning towards upgrading I still haven't made my mind up yet

 


Any  current ver 7 users(upgraded from 6) care to chime in on this - it

would be appreciated

 


Thanks in advance

 


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