Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug
Hi All, thanks for the advice as to how you can work around this. I too have umpteen methods that I have used in the past. But the point is that the new feature in Legacy 7 means that you do not need to do any of this faffing around. Just mark the sensitive individuals as invisible in the master file and you never have to worry again. All exports of any kind will exclude them. This is why I am so miffed that such a useful feature has been botched by Millenia. The implementation is not rocket science. Regards, John - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:54 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug An easy workaround that I've found is this: After the gedcom is created I open it in an old version of FTM. There's an option there to list all individuals by date of birth. It takes only a minute to check the list and verify that there are no inappropriate entries included. If the list is clean, I blow away the FTM file and send the gedcom. If Legacy can do the same thing as easily, would someone explain how? Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug I think what you are looking for is probably handled best by creating a second file (started as duplicate), and delete from the second one, with a possible name 'invisible' or like, which will completely hide? the concerned people. You will need to remember to do changes for both, or they will become more 'different' in time. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:40 AM Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals to invisible feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not work. It is now some time since you acknowledged the bug. When can we expect a fix??Regards,JTB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Help
At 03:45 PM 13/09/2008, you wrote: John Susan -- REMEMBER - NO FILES on the Legacy List - see the rules! Thanks!! Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Susan, Victoria, Australia. English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
I don't know the places but Denton, Clun and Blyton will almost certainly be villages or towns and not cities. City status in the UK has a very special meaning, it is not used at the whim of some local politician or businessman to enhance the status of their home town. There are some very small cities and also some very large towns that are not cities. Have a read at the relevant page in Wikipedia to understand this (or get more confused!). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_status_in_the_United_Kingdom It is also complicated more by counties changing periodically though for family history purposes it is usual to use the historic counties (Lancashire) not modern names like Great Manchester and Merseyside. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_counties http://www.abcounties.co.uk An address can sometimes be a classic town, county but can often can have more fields and these might not be official names of administrative areas but locally used names for districts of a town. Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Vallevieni Sent: 13 September 2008 04:34 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Cathy Vallevieni wrote: How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Firstly, I think you are under a misconception. England does indeed have counties, but *in most cases* the word County is not used in the name as it is in the US, I believe. But Durham happens to be an exception and is correctly referred to as County Durham. Otherwise, it's Devon, Cornwall, Cheshire, etc. Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. When transcribing information from contemporary documents you should always write down what is there, not make your own interpretation. Therefore, if the address is written as Blyton, Lincolnshire that is what you should write. Once you start trying to interpret placenames and addresses you can get into an awful mess. Over the years names have changed, boundaries have moved, administration districts have been created and abolished, etc. Nowadays postal addresses often bear little relation to old-established towns and villages. My best advice is not to get hung up on the slots in Legacy's location or address fields. They really don't work well for English places. Just enter them as you see them. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help
Hello John, If you send me your FTW file, I can convert it to a GEDCOM by return for you as I have FTM16. Regards -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John LOrd Sent: 12 September 2008 04:32 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help Hi all and sundry, Sherry, from Legacy support has suggested that I contact you people on the chance u may be able to help. I had a computer malfunction, a crash I guess, and lost my family tree. On recovery I have found, or the guy that did this for me,( I, on computers skills fall outside of the category of 'Geek' and 'Nerd' to one closely resembling 'dope',) two files one with a FBK the other with FTW, which on advising Sherry who came back with the following. Ok, I checked with Brian, our other support person, who at one time had FTM on his computer - but it was an early version and he never could get it to run correctly on is XP computer so he uninstalled it. What I'm going to suggest is that you contact the Legacy User Group mailing list and ask the listers if any of them have FTM installed (there are a lot of ex FTM users) and would be willing to create a gedcom for you. Do *not* send the files to the list but wait until someone responds and then send the Lord Constable Gedcom May 01.ged.FTW file directly to that person. I would like to tell u I understand that - I don't - apart from the part relating to contact you guys and gals, so if anyone out there can help, you will save me a lot, an awful lot, of retyping. I lay awake at night in anticipation, Best John Lord Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name for locations outside their own country, but personally I think this is not a good idea. For starters, will other people inheriting your research know that this is your practice? Also, it could lead to confusion if you accidentally forgot to add the country. I like the consistency of seeing the country name every time, too! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Cathy, The best advice I can give anyone when entering UK is to completely forget about the US 4 field convention - it does not work. To take the point s which you raise: There are at least 10 Dentons in England, non are cities, some are districts, some towns, some villages. If you are referring to the one in County Durham it is now in Cleveland. Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. We do not have states, but the UK, which is not a country as such, does comprise countries England, Northern Ireland (Ulster), Scotland and Wales, each (except England) having its own administration with a high degree of independance from the UK Parliament. The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles are not part of the UK. The usual form of address is: (House Street), Hamlet, Parish/District, Town/City, County, Country. I recommend visiting: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm I hope this helps. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:33:40 -0700 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you differentiate eg between Bangor, Northern Ireland and Bangor, Wales. I know they are in different Counties but where are the counties? Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:35:46 +0100 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name for locations outside their own country, but personally I think this is not a good idea. For starters, will other people inheriting your research know that this is your practice? Also, it could lead to confusion if you accidentally forgot to add the country. I like the consistency of seeing the country name every time, too! -- Jenny M Benson _ Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated with counties in the past sometimes named after the county town as in the county of Lancaster (or County Palatine of Lancaster to confuse our Transpondian friends even more!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Wales - Bangor, Caernarfonshire (Sir Gaernarfon in Welsh) now in Gwynedd Also Bangor-on-Dee / Bangor-is-y-Coed in Flintshire or Denbighshire (not sure which). Northern Ireland- Bangor, County Down I think there is also a Bangor, County Mayo in Southern Ireland Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:39 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you differentiate eg between Bangor, Northern Ireland and Bangor, Wales. I know they are in different Counties but where are the counties? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible?
It worked VERY well, Richard. I converted all of my interviews from the old format to the new sourcewriter one A LOT faster than the way I was doing it. I created the new interview and then merged the old interview entry into it. Since there is no source detail to worry about with the interviews this worked like a champ! I have a few more entry types this will work for (those with no detail). However, those with detail won't work (census records). You saved me a lot of work, thanks :) michele - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible? Yes it is possible. Fast, NO. Using an example, I need to change every Source 'US Census 1860, Illionis, Cook County, Chicago Ward 6' to 'ENG 1861 London, Stepney Limehouse Parish, voter lists'. Learning purposes only. 1. Go to Master Source List. Highlight the victim. 2. Choose 'Show list', 'for US1860'. 3. Tag the list to an empty Tag. 4. Print the list. 5. Confirm each person in the list needs to make the switch, edit any problems. 6. Create the NEW Source. (Don't use an existing one.) 7. Combine the Source 'US1860' into 'London1861'. 8. Confirm each person moved properly. Untag the good ones. 9. Search for the should be empty source. if there, re-do 1-9. 10. Take the still there 'US1860' and choose Options - Delete Master Source. works only when emptied. 11. If needed add the old correct and the new correct to each other using combine. I once changed about 400 people, this method, though slow, instills confidence it worked right. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Is this possible? To: Legacy E-Mail List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM Is it possible to tag every instance of when a particular source was used, delete those sources, then assign a new source to all of those places? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 6:56 AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
It is probably best to forget the idea of four words to describe a place. In the English scheme you tend to use country (useful if sending to people in other countries), then county and then a description of where the place is. If it is a village, use the village. If it is a very small village, you might put the name of the nearest larger town as well. There are counties, but normally you don't have to use the word county in that part of the address. some of them have the word shire in the name which is another word for county. Durham is the exception in that it can be called County Durham (not Durham County). Many of the Irish counties are the same, County Kildare, County Kerry etc. In older addresses, there is an entity called a hundred, which is a sub-section of a county, and this can be used in the address. Early records are often organised in hundreds and some wills will refer to someone's address as being in a certain hundred. Again, in some parts of the country the hundred may be called a wapentake except in Peterborough where it is a Soke. Above all it is just a way to define where somewhere is. American cities are highly organised, with grid systems etc. In England the places just grew and there is no particular naming convention, the same is by and large true of addresses. As an example, much of my family came from Staffordshire. The area is in the Potteries, which is an overall description for quite a large area including several towns which get the name from the industry. The centre of the area where my lot lived is called Harriseahead, this is in the hundred of Stadmoreslow and the early Censuses are organised in hundreds. However, within the general area of Harriseahead are places called Brown Lees, The Rookery, Red Pool, Trubshaw, Buckram Yard and so on, many are no more than a row of houses, but appear on the registers and the censuses. To add to the complications, in some areas the ecclesiastical parish may be important, although there was a major re-organisation in some areas in late Victorian times. With the churches though, you need to be careful, most of mine were baptised and buried at Newchapel, but this was not the parish church and could not perform marriages, the parish was Wolstanton. The addresses can therefore sometimes include Wolstanton, but in many cases do not, even though they refer to the same place. Brown Lees for instance can be referred to as part of Wolstanton, part of Newchapel, part of Harriseahead, part of Stadmoreslow, part of Biddulph and even part of Burslem depending upon the context. I list it as Brown Lees, Harriseahead, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England in an attempt to provide a consistant naming convention for the area and to differentiate between areas which are now considered close together, but which, in the days when everyone walked everywhere, were significantly apart, both in geography and social class. Hope this doesn't confuse John 2008/9/13 Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Help
Susan, I have worked it out but it looks like it is a repeat of my old file. I think I will have to go back to the chap who did the recovery to see if it can be found in the dim dark reaches of the computer, either that or I start retyping. Thanks so much for your help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Perrett Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2008 5:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help At 03:45 PM 13/09/2008, you wrote: John Susan -- REMEMBER - NO FILES on the Legacy List - see the rules! Thanks!! Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Susan, Victoria, Australia. English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim
JL ... Thank you for your help. I do not want to go through any extra effort w/3rd party software, so I'll have to determine if Legacy has it in its plans to provide ordering. Take care. Jim - Original Message - From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim This sounds familiar, like something I was trying to do a few years ago. As you probably notice there are no options for the type of thing you're asking about . You might try re-ordering the pictures in a couple of your Individual picture galleries and see if you can determine a pattern to it. Maybe Legacy tech will divulge the mystery of it and save you some time? There are so many other programs around that print good pdf's of photographs so I've moved my efforts elsewhere. My favorite presently is ACDSee Pro 2 Photo Manager. If you need something for free, FastStone Viewer has detailed options for setup. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog.html Jim Hughes wrote: Good Day ... ... I hope all is well Your comments/direction are appreciated. My quest ... to 'order' the printing of Scrapbook images. I created a .pdf file of my Scrapbook images. I am unable to determine the 'order' of how the images were printed. Family images are not in sequence, within the page, nor report. My question: how do I order the report as to families, images, and sequence? Thanks for your guidance. Jim *** Here are the steps, and settings, I use to print a Scrapbook Report: View Scrapbook Picture Scrapbook Options Check Individuals * All Individuals Check Individual pictures Check Individual event pictures Check Marriage Pictures Check Marriage event pictures Check Marriages * All Marriages Check Marriage pictures Print Scrapbook (Collect pictures ... displayed) Photo Album Options Title Pictures per page *4 Picture reduction width *200pixels Include Check Include caption Check File description Check centered Check include date Check drop shadow * light *PDF Create ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim
Rich in LA CA ... Thanks Rich, I'll look into the effort. Without ordering, the report is not what I desire. You have a good day. Jim - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim Or, create an Event separately for each photgraph, then sort the various events. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:09 PM This sounds familiar, like something I was trying to do a few years ago. As you probably notice there are no options for the type of thing you're asking about . You might try re-ordering the pictures in a couple of your Individual picture galleries and see if you can determine a pattern to it. Maybe Legacy tech will divulge the mystery of it and save you some time? There are so many other programs around that print good pdf's of photographs so I've moved my efforts elsewhere. My favorite presently is ACDSee Pro 2 Photo Manager. If you need something for free, FastStone Viewer has detailed options for setup. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog.html Jim Hughes wrote: Good Day ... ... I hope all is well Your comments/direction are appreciated. My quest ... to 'order' the printing of Scrapbook images. I created a .pdf file of my Scrapbook images. I am unable to determine the 'order' of how the images were printed. Family images are not in sequence, within the page, nor report. My question: how do I order the report as to families, images, and sequence? Thanks for your guidance. Jim *** Here are the steps, and settings, I use to print a Scrapbook Report: View Scrapbook Picture Scrapbook Options Check Individuals * All Individuals Check Individual pictures Check Individual event pictures Check Marriage Pictures Check Marriage event pictures Check Marriages * All Marriages Check Marriage pictures Print Scrapbook (Collect pictures ... displayed) Photo Album Options Title Pictures per page *4 Picture reduction width *200pixels Include Check Include caption Check File description Check centered Check include date Check drop shadow * light *PDF Create ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents
How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the biological parents the main ones. I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version. I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents. Then we discovered his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as the main parent. However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the biological father who is not marked as Father of son-in-law as his adoptive was. When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my son-in-law... I want his biological father to be marked as father of son-in-law How can I get this done without deleting people? Joseph Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents
From the article in the Help about Multiple and Single parents: - Setting Family View Status Options • Set the Preferred Parents in the Parents List by highlighting them and clicking the Select button. The screen will close and the preferred parents will be displayed in Family View. (click on the parents icon in Family View to open the Parents List). I suppose you have to set the biological father as preferred parent. Evert 2008/9/13 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the biological parents the main ones. I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version. I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents. Then we discovered his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as the main parent. However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the biological father who is not marked as Father of son-in-law as his adoptive was. When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my son-in-law... I want his biological father to be marked as father of son-in-law How can I get this done without deleting people? Joseph Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug
John, Let's raise the tone on this list. Did you see the responses to my post on Software Testing? I got several more like that off-list too. While I feel your pain, your last 2 sentences are not welcome on this list. Ward - Original Message - From: Geoff Poskitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug Hi All, thanks for the advice as to how you can work around this. I too have umpteen methods that I have used in the past. But the point is that the new feature in Legacy 7 means that you do not need to do any of this faffing around. Just mark the sensitive individuals as invisible in the master file and you never have to worry again. All exports of any kind will exclude them. This is why I am so miffed that such a useful feature has been botched by Millenia. The implementation is not rocket science. Regards, John - Original Message - ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] unknown?
Version 7 doesn't like you to put unknown in the given name field. So, if you don't know who someone is, but have some data about them, what are you supposed to use for a name? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown?
Brackets! Very good! Thanks :) michele - Original Message - From: Jette Brix To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown? Just put the word unknown in brackets. Jette Denmark 2008/9/13 Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version 7 doesn't like you to put unknown in the given name field. So, if you don't know who someone is, but have some data about them, what are you supposed to use for a name? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown?
Just put the word unknown in brackets. Jette Denmark 2008/9/13 Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version 7 doesn't like you to put unknown in the given name field. So, if you don't know who someone is, but have some data about them, what are you supposed to use for a name? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Which certainly goes to illustrate that it can be very confusing for those outside the country and serves to complicate Cathy's question. I believe that if your audience consists primarily of UK residents who are familiar with these conventions you should stick with the names as they are (or were) commonly used. If you and your audience are primarily outside the country, they need some clues to understand what you've recorded. It's not so much a matter of fitting into slots in the software but more one of clarification for yourself and others. A method I like is to put the clue in square brackets after the name. The smallest and largest elements probably need no clue, but after the other element(s) you could use [parish], [county], or whatever is appropriate as taken from your source. Although it isn't proper to say Kent County, putting the designation in brackets after the name does preserve the sorting order and becomes simply Kent [county], England. The same convention works if it's a Scandinavian farm name or an historic French province. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Clare Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations It is probably best to forget the idea of four words to describe a place. In the English scheme you tend to use country (useful if sending to people in other countries), then county and then a description of where the place is. If it is a village, use the village. If it is a very small village, you might put the name of the nearest larger town as well. There are counties, but normally you don't have to use the word county in that part of the address. some of them have the word shire in the name which is another word for county. Durham is the exception in that it can be called County Durham (not Durham County). Many of the Irish counties are the same, County Kildare, County Kerry etc. In older addresses, there is an entity called a hundred, which is a sub-section of a county, and this can be used in the address. Early records are often organised in hundreds and some wills will refer to someone's address as being in a certain hundred. Again, in some parts of the country the hundred may be called a wapentake except in Peterborough where it is a Soke. Above all it is just a way to define where somewhere is. American cities are highly organised, with grid systems etc. In England the places just grew and there is no particular naming convention, the same is by and large true of addresses. As an example, much of my family came from Staffordshire. The area is in the Potteries, which is an overall description for quite a large area including several towns which get the name from the industry. The centre of the area where my lot lived is called Harriseahead, this is in the hundred of Stadmoreslow and the early Censuses are organised in hundreds. However, within the general area of Harriseahead are places called Brown Lees, The Rookery, Red Pool, Trubshaw, Buckram Yard and so on, many are no more than a row of houses, but appear on the registers and the censuses. To add to the complications, in some areas the ecclesiastical parish may be important, although there was a major re-organisation in some areas in late Victorian times. With the churches though, you need to be careful, most of mine were baptised and buried at Newchapel, but this was not the parish church and could not perform marriages, the parish was Wolstanton. The addresses can therefore sometimes include Wolstanton, but in many cases do not, even though they refer to the same place. Brown Lees for instance can be referred to as part of Wolstanton, part of Newchapel, part of Harriseahead, part of Stadmoreslow, part of Biddulph and even part of Burslem depending upon the context. I list it as Brown Lees, Harriseahead, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England in an attempt to provide a consistant naming convention for the area and to differentiate between areas which are now considered close together, but which, in the days when everyone walked everywhere, were significantly apart, both in geography and social class. Hope this doesn't confuse John 2008/9/13 Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni
[LegacyUG] Search Problems
I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Are you using equal to, contains . . . what is the search criteria you're using? Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible?
I am glad you do not seem overwhelmed. Sometimes the project will seem unhandle-able, but making a lot of little (organized) steps can make it less scary. It took me a few months, but having a plan shrunk my panic. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:16 PM Very good! I am liking that! The ones I want to change are global. I want to change EVERY instance so this will work just fine! michele - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible? Yes it is possible. Fast, NO. Using an example, I need to change every Source 'US Census 1860, Illionis, Cook County, Chicago Ward 6' to 'ENG 1861 London, Stepney Limehouse Parish, voter lists'. Learning purposes only. 1. Go to Master Source List. Highlight the victim. 2. Choose 'Show list', 'for US1860'. 3. Tag the list to an empty Tag. 4. Print the list. 5. Confirm each person in the list needs to make the switch, edit any problems. 6. Create the NEW Source. (Don't use an existing one.) 7. Combine the Source 'US1860' into 'London1861'. 8. Confirm each person moved properly. Untag the good ones. 9. Search for the should be empty source. if there, re-do 1-9. 10. Take the still there 'US1860' and choose Options - Delete Master Source. works only when emptied. 11. If needed add the old correct and the new correct to each other using combine. I once changed about 400 people, this method, though slow, instills confidence it worked right. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Is this possible? To: Legacy E-Mail List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM Is it possible to tag every instance of when a particular source was used, delete those sources, then assign a new source to all of those places? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 6:56 AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Use contains 1985. It will pick up all the 1985s no matter the exact date. michele - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Did you use Contains in the field How to search ? Bert - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday 13 September 2008 18:55 Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Steve: You can also use the following: Primary Condition: Individual, Death Date, Contains, 1983 This will find any occurance of 1983 in the death field. I have some death fields that I have imported from FTM file that have the following kind of dates: WFT Est 1922-1983 This Contains qualifier finds all of these kind of dates also. Chap On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Elizabeth Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using equal to, contains . . . what is the search criteria you're using? Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- ___ Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Steve: What is the criteria that you used and how did you do your search? You will have to use two conditions as follows in the Query by Example Tab: Primary Condition: Individual, Death Date, After, 31 Dec 1982 Second Condition: And Individual, Death Date, Before, 31 Dec 1983 This finds all people who died in 1983. Hope this helps. Chap PS Please try to send only TEXT messages to this email list -- you used HTML format. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Steve Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- ___ Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems
I'm Using 'Equal to' and 'anywhere in Field' Steve Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:33 PM How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems
That will only find the exact date '1985' . not a filled-in date including the
year 1985, nor 'abt 1985', nor 'aft 1985', nor a range that might include it.
Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:33 PM How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Also Greater London was only created in 1965 though the term was used before then but not clearly defined. It shows the problems with using the names of modern administrative areas. It is far better to stick to the historic county names though even they have always changed from time to time in the past but not as drastically as in the last 50 years. Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clare Sent: 13 September 2008 19:43 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Steve I used Equals 1991 and got 40 __Field contains only the year 1991 I used Contains 1991 and got 321 _It includes all partial and complete dates I used After 31 dec 1990 and before 01 Jan 1992 and got 370 _This finds all partial and complete dates but also includes 1992(year only dates) The searches work very well but, you have to be careful on the parameters Regards Henry - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1670 - Release Date: 9/13/2008 12:50 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.
It is an event/fact. Entering new event/fact then going to, select a master source, an existing master source from SourceWriter, then enter the source clipboard information. when completed I try to click save, but it is frozen. No fields are skipped. The event needs to be created but the information on the source clipboard is there, but its not a Saved clipboard. It is not a repeat clipboard, its new. Yes I could entered the event, save. then create the source clipboard. I just have a habit to do it one way, but I can change. on a personal note: I hate databases and stayed away from them as long as I could, my own personal revolt against them, now I guess I need to play nice with them.. (vbg) -- - Christina Hruška --And the Dragon Grins... On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. First question. Is the Event one of the four (BirthChriDiedBur) or an Event/Fact? New Event/Type or already used? New Source or already used one? SourceWriter or BasicStyle? I am guessing you are using SourceWriter. There have been problems reported in somewhat similar situations. Did you skip any fields. I know it shouldn't matter, but it might. You said, 'When I reopen Legacy, I need to re-enter the event again, but the source clipboard is saved.' Again was this a NEW clipboard source, or a repeat. I read it as new. It may be a problem with order of input. I don't use the clipboard much, but I would create the NEW source, before opening the Event screen. This may be a quirk to fix, or an intentional, desired path to use/not use. Since the underlying program MS Access, has its own quirks and ideas of order, it may be confusing the DB. But at the present time, until we hear otherwise (or if I guessed wrong, and it works differently than I state), I would until furthur notice, create the sources-events in that order. I would gladly hear from those who use the described tool order successfully. What I think is the problem: Create new Event, go to clipboard, add new source, edit clipboard detail screen, Save Source, Save Event. Hope I got it right? Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 4:27 PM Now I am having problems with Legacy V7 Build 7.0.0.55. It happens when I add an event and then I open the clipboard and I enter the information on the Source detail screen. I have the information completed and then when I try to go to the save step, it freezes and I have to close it with the task manager. When I reopen Legacy, I need to re-enter the event again, but the source clipboard is saved. FYI -- - Christina Hruška --And the Dragon Grins... On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:06 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why when I, (and others) when discussing a problem, try to steer the person into seeing my example, to be specific how I am wrong or not, which assists people not familar with writing repair requests to be more clear. I learned by doing it wrong enough times. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing. To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 1:05 AM You make some important points there, Rich. I would suggest that making detailed notes of any problems is not only helpful for oneself though, but is of great help to the bug catchers and even LUG when trying to explain what has happened. It is not really possible to suggest ways of overcoming problems unless it can be replicated and ofter all, the response of well it doesn't happen to me is not very helpful, except when it provokes a response giving more detail as to how to replicate it. Again, insufficient information can lead to two or multiple problems being thought of as the same problem, when in fact they are quite different, and have different causes. I know that you are aware of this but. hopefully, others may note that the more information provided about how the problem arose and how it can be replicated can save an awful lot of guessing, questions, erroneous answers and help to determine the correct response far more accurately. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:13:22 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing. To:
Re: [BULK] [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems
Hi Guys, Hurray!!! Get the champagne out, I've cracked it. Thanks for all your help, It's a Great Group with a great Bunch of Guys and Gals. Steve ---Original Message--- From: Steve Giles Date: 13/09/2008 18:47:36 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [BULK] [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems I'm Using 'Equal to' and 'anywhere in Field' Steve Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
I just don't understand it no matter what I try it just doesn't work. I get no results even by putting the 'Before' or 'after' in. I've changed the Exact, Starts with Anywhere in field buttons but still no luck. Steve PS sorry about the HTML format it my email tagging that was on. ---Original Message--- From: Leon Chapman Date: 13/09/2008 18:49:57 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems Steve: What is the criteria that you used and how did you do your search? You will have to use two conditions as follows in the Query by Example Tab: Primary Condition: Individual, Death Date, After, 31 Dec 1982 Second Condition: And Individual, Death Date, Before, 31 Dec 1983 This finds all people who died in 1983. Hope this helps. Chap PS Please try to send only TEXT messages to this email list -- you used HTML format. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Steve Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- ___ Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:33 PM How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Steve At the top of the search screen - click on the second tab Detail Search Then you will find all the options people have directed you to. -- Kind Regards Margaret --- On Behalf Of Steve Giles Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2008 7:37 a.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I just don't understand it no matter what I try it just doesn't work. I get no results even by putting the 'Before' or 'after' in. I've changed the Exact, Starts with Anywhere in field buttons but still no luck. Steve Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems
Steve, when you're looking for a date, the options starts with and anywhere are not on the list, so make sure you're searching the date field for an individual. Have you used the option contains? If you still get no results, have you looked at a person's information that you know should come up on the search results to verify you have the information entered correctly? Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Steve Giles To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems I just don't understand it no matter what I try it just doesn't work. I get no results even by putting the 'Before' or 'after' in. I've changed the Exact, Starts with Anywhere in field buttons but still no luck. Steve PS sorry about the HTML format it my email tagging that was on. ---Original Message--- From: Leon Chapman Date: 13/09/2008 18:49:57 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search Problems Steve: What is the criteria that you used and how did you do your search? You will have to use two conditions as follows in the Query by Example Tab: Primary Condition: Individual, Death Date, After, 31 Dec 1982 Second Condition: And Individual, Death Date, Before, 31 Dec 1983 This finds all people who died in 1983. Hope this helps. Chap PS Please try to send only TEXT messages to this email list -- you used HTML format. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Steve Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a bit of a mystery, I did a search in Legacy 7 for people who died in 1985 ( I know of at least 3 in my tree including my father) I put 1985 in the 'Died' box but I got No records were found that matched this Criteria I tried other years that I knew people had died in like my grand parents other names came up but not my grandparents. It just seemed to miss certain people but show others Anybody else experience this problem or might know the cause? Steve Steve Giles A.I.M.C P.O Box 333 St Helier Jersey C.I JE4 9YB Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents
Evert, I did just this to a point and nothing happened. What I mean is, I could do everything and the parent I prefered came up ion the window, but the thing i wanted didn't happen. That is this; The relationship for the adoptive parents were still Son-in-law's Father... and I wanted that to be changed to the biological Father. Some how it apparently remembered that the step parents were once the only and prefered parents. Is there a button or something I'm missing that I'm not seeing to set Prefered Parents in the parent list? I didn't see anything there. Joseph ___ Evert van Dijken wrote: From the article in the Help about Multiple and Single parents: - Setting Family View Status Options • Set the Preferred Parents in the Parents List by highlighting them and clicking the Select button. The screen will close and the preferred parents will be displayed in Family View. (click on the parents icon in Family View to open the Parents List). I suppose you have to set the biological father as preferred parent. Evert 2008/9/13 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the biological parents the main ones. I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version. I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents. Then we discovered his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as the main parent. However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the biological father who is not marked as Father of son-in-law as his adoptive was. When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my son-in-law... I want his biological father to be marked as father of son-in-law How can I get this done without deleting people? Joseph Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Well, Rich, you *said* it was a trick question. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents
I have found that if you make alterations like that you need to reset the relationships by running set relationships again. Roger Jarrett -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2008 3:36 a.m. To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Biological and Adoptive Parents Evert, I did just this to a point and nothing happened. What I mean is, I could do everything and the parent I prefered came up ion the window, but the thing i wanted didn't happen. That is this; The relationship for the adoptive parents were still Son-in-law's Father... and I wanted that to be changed to the biological Father. Some how it apparently remembered that the step parents were once the only and prefered parents. Is there a button or something I'm missing that I'm not seeing to set Prefered Parents in the parent list? I didn't see anything there. Joseph ___ Evert van Dijken wrote: From the article in the Help about Multiple and Single parents: - Setting Family View Status Options . Set the Preferred Parents in the Parents List by highlighting them and clicking the Select button. The screen will close and the preferred parents will be displayed in Family View. (click on the parents icon in Family View to open the Parents List). I suppose you have to set the biological father as preferred parent. Evert 2008/9/13 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How does one link an individual to two sets of parents and keep the biological parents the main ones. I'm using 7.0 Deluxe version. I had my son-in-law connected to his adopted parents. Then we discovered his biological father and we want to tie him to his biological father as the main parent. However, I can unlink the adoptive father from the boy, and link the biological father who is not marked as Father of son-in-law as his adoptive was. When I link him to his adoptive parents, they again become parents of my son-in-law... I want his biological father to be marked as father of son-in-law How can I get this done without deleting people? Joseph Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1667 - Release Date: 11/09/2008 6:55 p.m. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Jenny M Benson wrote: I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name for locations outside their own country, but personally I think this is not a good idea. For starters, will other people inheriting your research know that this is your practice? Also, it could lead to confusion if you accidentally forgot to add the country. I like the consistency of seeing the country name every time, too! I started doing the same thing. Most of my locations are USA, but I've started including that in my locations. You just never know. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
ronald ferguson wrote: Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you differentiate eg between Bangor, Northern Ireland and Bangor, Wales. I know they are in different Counties but where are the counties? Not sure if you misread what I wrote or if you are mistaking my post for someone else's. What I said was that I always include the country in locations. I also include the county. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
My apologies for being sharp, but Britain did not have a system created in the 17th and 18th centuries for its naming conventions and the name can be important in understanding the history. The county of Kent was invaded by the Jutes in roughly 600 to 700 AD and they got no further than Kent. How do we know; first, there are excavations along the border between Surrey and Sussex on one side and Kent on the other which show battle graves dating from the period, but also the place names change. Harbours in Kent are called Ramsgate and Margate for instance, harbours in Sussex are called Havens - Newhaven for instance. Towns in some areas finish in -ton whereas in other areas they can be -burghs or -burys. Places such as Manchester, Lancaster, Chester derive their names from the latin castra for a fort. The many places called Eccles refer to Roman sites of churches (ecclesiastes) Until Chaucer in about 1400, the English language was so diverse that no one could write something which could be understood be more than a small proportion of the population. A hill could be a brae, a tor, a hill, a cop or any of another dozen names. Rivers are the same. Their names today are a distant echo of their history and work is being done to relate the names to the people. DNA testing of long term families is also being used to work alongside this. I feel it is important to preserve these links and to investigate them. Naming conventions can help to preserve that history so that, when the experts find more about places, you will be able to benefit by preserving the name in your addresses and then extending the history. I will now get off my hobby-horse John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:33 PM How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton, Lincolnshire, England and I believe I determined Wharton was a sub-area of Blyton?) This one's from 1460. Thanks for any suggestions. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:
RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems
Steve, There is some confusion here. The wording you are quoting is from Search and Replace not Search. Which do you require? Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:34:44 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com That will only find the exact date '1985' . not a filled-in date including the year 1985, nor 'abt 1985', nor 'aft 1985', nor a range that might include it. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Steve Giles wrote: From: Steve Giles Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Search Problems To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 10:23 AM I'm Using 'Equal to' and 'anywhere in Field' Steve _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Sorry, Jenny. On my email reader the quote from the previous poster and your response ran into each other and it looked as though it was all one post. Yup, we agree, the country ought to be included so that *anybody* knows where oit is. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:24:49 +0100 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ronald ferguson wrote: Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you differentiate eg between Bangor, Northern Ireland and Bangor, Wales. I know they are in different Counties but where are the counties? Not sure if you misread what I wrote or if you are mistaking my post for someone else's. What I said was that I always include the country in locations. I also include the county. -- Jenny M Benson _ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown?
Michele, I have lots of Unknown/UNKNOWN in my given name fields - without brackets. At 01:44 AM 14/09/2008, you wrote: Version 7 doesn't like you to put unknown in the given name field. So, if you don't know who someone is, but have some data about them, what are you supposed to use for a name? michele Susan, Victoria, Australia. English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] unknown?
I guess I should have clarified... If you have unknown in the given name field it will show up as a potential problem. michele - Original Message - From: Susan Perrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unknown? Michele, I have lots of Unknown/UNKNOWN in my given name fields - without brackets. At 01:44 AM 14/09/2008, you wrote: Version 7 doesn't like you to put unknown in the given name field. So, if you don't know who someone is, but have some data about them, what are you supposed to use for a name? michele Susan, Victoria, Australia. English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1669 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 2:18 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
That was insulting and boorish... --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the finagling that he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list. Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or Sentence Style for Events? Do you have events that you created? I use List Style and it appears that events that I have defined do not look the same as those that came with Legacy. I don't see anything different in the way that the event is defined. Examples of the event in List Style on pedigree web page: OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton, Devon, England. IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York, USA. Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed by a comma. I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that Immigration is one that I created. Has anyone else seen this? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
By the way, this is not a problem unique to v7. I saw this in v6 too. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the finagling that he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list. Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or Sentence Style for Events? Do you have events that you created? I use List Style and it appears that events that I have defined do not look the same as those that came with Legacy. I don't see anything different in the way that the event is defined. Examples of the event in List Style on pedigree web page: OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton, Devon, England. IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York, USA. Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed by a comma. I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that Immigration is one that I created. Has anyone else seen this? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my question, but now I must. In an effort to be accurate, I wanted to know if I would list an unknown location in Ireland as , , Ireland, UK. Okay, don't get upset! I admit I am ignorant of the proper usage. Someone listed only northern Ireland as part of the UK. How is one to know? And if I don't really know what part of Ireland should I just leave it as , , Ireland until I know more? Thank you, from a newby to Legacy and much impressed by the efforts the program makes toward proper location and source info. I came from FTM so that should explain a lot. I am trying to convert everything and make every possible effort to do things right. Erin - Original Message - From: Martin Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated with counties in the past sometimes named after the county town as in the county of Lancaster (or County Palatine of Lancaster to confuse our Transpondian friends even more!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
Erin, As most good people from Ireland are now in bed I will answer. To start, I notice that you are trying to use the 4 field convention - my advice would be not to bother with it for locations on this side of the pond, they don't work (anyhow I hate commas in Locations, that's personal taste btw); I would just write Ireland. Northern Ireland AKA Ulster is part of the UK, NB *not* part of England. The Republic of Ireland AKA Southern Ireland or Eire is not part of the UK and has been an independent country since 1922. Without going to much into the history, prior to that it was part of the UK. Northen Ireland comprises 6 counties: Antrim, Armargh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry (AKA Derry) and Tyrone. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:28:30 -0700 Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my question, but now I must. In an effort to be accurate, I wanted to know if I would list an unknown location in Ireland as , , Ireland, UK. Okay, don't get upset! I admit I am ignorant of the proper usage. Someone listed only northern Ireland as part of the UK. How is one to know? And if I don't really know what part of Ireland should I just leave it as , , Ireland until I know more? Thank you, from a newby to Legacy and much impressed by the efforts the program makes toward proper location and source info. I came from FTM so that should explain a lot. I am trying to convert everything and make every possible effort to do things right. Erin - Original Message - From: Martin Briscoe To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated with counties in the past sometimes named after the county town as in the county of Lancaster (or County Palatine of Lancaster to confuse our Transpondian friends even more!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. _ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations
John, I find all this history wonderfully fascinating. Would you be willing to stay in contact with me via my personal email? I would be very interested to incorporate this kind of info in my family history when I get that far back. Erin - Original Message - From: John Clare To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations My apologies for being sharp, but Britain did not have a system created in the 17th and 18th centuries for its naming conventions and the name can be important in understanding the history. The county of Kent was invaded by the Jutes in roughly 600 to 700 AD and they got no further than Kent. How do we know; first, there are excavations along the border between Surrey and Sussex on one side and Kent on the other which show battle graves dating from the period, but also the place names change. Harbours in Kent are called Ramsgate and Margate for instance, harbours in Sussex are called Havens - Newhaven for instance. Towns in some areas finish in -ton whereas in other areas they can be -burghs or -burys. Places such as Manchester, Lancaster, Chester derive their names from the latin castra for a fort. The many places called Eccles refer to Roman sites of churches (ecclesiastes) Until Chaucer in about 1400, the English language was so diverse that no one could write something which could be understood be more than a small proportion of the population. A hill could be a brae, a tor, a hill, a cop or any of another dozen names. Rivers are the same. Their names today are a distant echo of their history and work is being done to relate the names to the people. DNA testing of long term families is also being used to work alongside this. I feel it is important to preserve these links and to investigate them. Naming conventions can help to preserve that history so that, when the experts find more about places, you will be able to benefit by preserving the name in your addresses and then extending the history. I will now get off my hobby-horse John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Windsor Castle, London, Greater London, England Windsor Castle, London, Middlesex, England I am not going to solve this quagmire they have created, everyone 'knows' where it is? I don't care. Within the same 'building' there may be multiple chapels, 'hospital wards', 'entombment in the walls and floors', etc., which each may/may not record the BMDs done there separately. When I realized that I will rarely be using, in the same report, Norwegian farmers, English earls, Crusaders dying in 'the Holy lands', and people in USA census records, I decided not to worry that the locations, don't handshake each other, for these documnts. If my British places are consistent within themelves, then anyone recieving the report from me, will not see the other groups anyway. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:33 PM How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Obendred (I believe this is a sub-area of Clun?), Clun (city), Shropshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. This one's from 1820. Blyton (city), Lincolnshire (County or equivalent thereof?), England. The source stated Wharton,
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The first qustion you must ask yourself is! Will I use 1. the date at the time of occurance, or 2. the current name for the place, or 3. the name of all places on a given day (1/1/2000) or 4. different rules for each country or 5. fix it later on??? Your answer will tell you which you need to use. I have removed UK from my locations in deference to what the natives use. I am not giving details but pointing out that each of us must find these for ourselves. Bef abt 1300, Ireland was a group of small kingdoms in various combinations. Then conquered and ruled by England until the creation of the United Kingdom. After that, Ireland separated from the UK, which created a name change and split. So when, and where are we discussing. Then I can tell you what the common use name was used, for that place at that time. I have created about 30-40 index cards for some locations, to keep the start/finish dates at hand. These are also useful for US county boundary changes, and similar in the Scandinavian lands. I reccommend using choice 1, since once the date/place combo is found, it will never need re-changing. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Erin Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Erin Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:28 PM Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my question, but now I must. In an effort to be accurate, I wanted to know if I would list an unknown location in Ireland as , , Ireland, UK. Okay, don't get upset! I admit I am ignorant of the proper usage. Someone listed only northern Ireland as part of the UK. How is one to know? And if I don't really know what part of Ireland should I just leave it as , , Ireland until I know more? Thank you, from a newby to Legacy and much impressed by the efforts the program makes toward proper location and source info. I came from FTM so that should explain a lot. I am trying to convert everything and make every possible effort to do things right. Erin - Original Message - From: Martin Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated with counties in the past sometimes named after the county town as in the county of Lancaster (or County Palatine of Lancaster to confuse our Transpondian friends even more!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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It would help if everyone reading messages would assume that the person asking the question wants to learn (otherwise s/he would not have asked the question) AND we have different knowledge, interests and education levels - so we can all help each other out! I have also found that it is helpful to go online with Wikipedia or Google genealogy + the country you are researching and you usually are able to learn a bit of the history to get started and it may give you a better grounding to frame your question. That said if you don't know something ASK - many of Irish extraction are quite familiar with the makeup of Ireland since it was/is a continuing political issue to their families. I believe that today there are thirty-two counties on the island of Ireland, there are four provinces (Connaught, Leinster, Munster, and Ulster) - six counties in Northern Ireland (part of the United Kingdom) and twenty-six counties in the Republic of Ireland. If you are unsure of where your family is from you could use Ireland until you learn more and make a note. Also take a look at www.genuki.org.uk/big/Ireland.html for a map of the island, provinces, and counties and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Ireland for a map and history of the provinces and counties. There is also an excellent site that maps surnames (and provides other information) and compares mappings from 1881 and 1998 www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/comparisons - helpful to get one started. For any of my Irish family I use the town, county, province, and country when adding information to Legacy (although I am aware of the continuing discussion of whether or not to use the country, it makes sense to me and I have entries from several countries AND for any parish (civil or religious) I add that information in notes at this point. Hope this helps and please do not feel intimidated or feel you will offend - just ask - most everyone wants to help out their fellow researchers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erin Bradshaw Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my question, but now I must. In an effort to be accurate, I wanted to know if I would list an unknown location in Ireland as , , Ireland, UK. Okay, don't get upset! I admit I am ignorant of the proper usage. Someone listed only northern Ireland as part of the UK. How is one to know? And if I don't really know what part of Ireland should I just leave it as , , Ireland until I know more? Thank you, from a newby to Legacy and much impressed by the efforts the program makes toward proper location and source info. I came from FTM so that should explain a lot. I am trying to convert everything and make every possible effort to do things right. Erin - Original Message - From: Martin Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated with counties in the past sometimes named after the county town as in the county of Lancaster (or County Palatine of Lancaster to confuse our Transpondian friends even more!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Yes we do have counties, we had them before America. Their names usually end in shire eg Lancashire, but there are exceptions eg. Cleveland, County Durham, Northumberland, Kent etc. In general, Ireland counties take the form County, Name. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe:
