Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
carogene wrote This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? I've never really got to grips with the Picture Centre! It looks complicated and I don't know what all the different bits mean so I just ignore it. I'm sure I could work it out if I tried, but I've never see the need. To attach a picture to a source I just open the Multimedia tab after entering Source Details and it's Picture, Picture, and browse for the picture you want. Adding pictures elsewhere I just click on the Picture icon, click Picture and browse for it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I like to save them as File not Picture since some are PDFs. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: carogene wrote This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? I've never really got to grips with the Picture Centre! It looks complicated and I don't know what all the different bits mean so I just ignore it. I'm sure I could work it out if I tried, but I've never see the need. To attach a picture to a source I just open the Multimedia tab after entering Source Details and it's Picture, Picture, and browse for the picture you want. Adding pictures elsewhere I just click on the Picture icon, click Picture and browse for it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy
carogene wrote I use the free programme called Irvanview to crop and print my census images. That way when printing, you do not get all the nasty black edges. I also use this programme together with the 'print screen' facility when saving newspaper articles and printing out from the digital photos of documents. Although one can crop pictures within Legacy, I also use Irfanview because I then also have the facility to straighten the image, which is very often necessary. This makes it possible to crop even more closely. I then save the image as a grayscale JPG and reduce the quality setting to 30 to reduce the size of the file. I find this quite adequate for Census images which I am not going to print or view in Reports. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Godparents
v pedersen wrote I checked in the archive and see references to an event called Godfather/Godmother, but I don't have that event listed in my events. I realize that I could create such an event, but before I do that, I would like to know how others enter godparent information. For now, I am interested in how to enter a child's godparents. Are there any thoughts on entering this information into the baptism notes or entering it as an event in the Events/Facts area? Also, any thoughts on entering the godparents together as one event or list the godfather and godmother separately? From the viewpoint of the child being baptised, I would enter details of the Godparents (and other relevant information) in the Baptism Notes. If any of the Godparents were themselves Individuals in my Family File, I would create for each a Godfather or Godmother Event, naming the child in the Description field. The Event Sentence would read something like [onDate] [he/she] was named as [EventName] at the Baptism of [Desc] at [Place]. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Michele, I guess I have, just never thought about it :-) Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:54:40 -0500 Because I would have THOUSANDS of images attached to my file. michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the transcription as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling variations, etc. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Jenny, Making a To-Do category for unconnected people is a great idea! There are several people I am almost sure belong to my family, but I'm not quite sure how they are related. Keeping their names in a To-Do list category will help me to find them all in one place quickly. Thanks for this great application of the To-Do list. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for example The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 604, their son Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe. Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently reviewing the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me to find these other people if they crop up again in another context. I also have a pretty good memory for names in my file! However, I appreciate that this is rather a casual approach and would not suit someone who has an enormous file or a great many other people A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for Legacy to include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes attached to each Individual, where one could enter information relating to the whole file. Such a facility would be useful for recording the names of other people who may prove to be of interest. But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the transcription as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling variations, etc. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Kirsten, Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather than attach the image to your Source Detail? This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I have immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg a questionable age for a person. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 Dave: In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or digital images of things that are readily available online. This could be dangerous with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census records will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print page after page after page of census pages in the book. michele - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Ron: I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main uses for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't be allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify the images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the
Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy
Carolyn and all, And to even make your large image files easier on loading in a web page, run them thru a free program online - SMUSH IT http://www.smushit.com/ Jay From: carogene Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy I use the free programme called Irvanview to crop and print my census images. That way when printing, you do not get all the nasty black edges. I also use this programme together with the 'print screen' facility when saving newspaper articles and printing out from the digital photos of documents. Its a very handy tool and free! Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Putting Ancestry images into Legacy
Carolyn, I do not mean to be rude, but the correct name is IrfanView. The developer is Irfan Skiljan. While the program is free, he asks for financial support if you like the program for further development of IrfanView. You can download it at http://www.irfanview.net/ Arnold Sprague At 09:49 PM 2/14/2009, you wrote: I use the free programme called Irvanview to crop and print my census images. That way when printing, you do not get all the nasty black edges. I also use this programme together with the 'print screen' facility when saving newspaper articles and printing out from the digital photos of documents. Its a very handy tool and free! Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Michele, I do underestand what you are saying but I just do it differently. You seem to have a census event, I do not. May I take just the head of the family, Henry Bounds: Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule In my records it would appear as: Henry Bounds - Vital Event Name - only sourced to 1930 census if previously not known. Head - not interested and at least on our census not necessarily accurate, since if the husband is away then the wife would be declared as head owns own home - not on English censuses lives on farm - Residence Event, sourced to 1930 census sex - not sourced white - not interested (and would not include it in anyway) Age - sourced to 1930 census as Date of Birth if not previously known, or comment made if it does not compare with previous 'facts'. Marriage age - not on England census and would not include as such, but may enable date of marriage to be calculated which could be sourced to 1930 census. born in MS - Vital Event Place of birth - only sourced to 1930 census if not previously known. speaks English - not on English census, would not use anyhow farmer - Occupation Event, sourced to 1930 census farm, #31 on farm schedule (I think this is all in one) Location field (no pun intended) for Occupation Event and Residence Event. This would cover everything I would wish to extract but in a different way to yourself Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0500 I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I think this was answered after I went to bed, and I'm trying to refresh my memory 8 hours later. I keep a simple-as-possible folder structure for thousands of genealogy-related images and other files. I don't keep it all in the Legacy picture folder but I could. I have a 13 GB folder called ANCESTORS sub-divided in a way that works for various projects, not just Legacy. That way I don't have multiple copies of images and pdf's all over my computer for different purposes. I would highly recommend this as a first step. Organize all your genealogy files 'somewhere' in whatever way best suits you. After entering Event information or whatever it is, I browse through the image icon until I find the folder where the image is and link to it. In most cases it would be linked to the Source Detail. There are image icons all over in Legacy, so it could be a Master Source image, or a Master Event Address image, and so on. It's the same process for all of them. Click the image icon and browse to the file you want. I don't transcribe the text of census records, for instance, but I have a close cousin who does, so I get it both ways on the work we share. Sometimes the text transcription comes from the online database so in those cases I use that as well as the image that I link. I don't print paper copies of census records, etc. The only paper I have are the box-loads other people have sent me. I scanned it all (boy, was that fun) and linked it into Legacy. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog carogene wrote: JL, This sounds good to me, how about providing a simple step by step guide for us to follow please. Using nana' steps for me please! I have managed to link pictures using the picture centre process, and have them stored in the Legacy pictures folder within my C drive. So maybe its a similar process? Cheers Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Godparents
Vicki I put godparents in the baptism notes. On the individual information screen, next to the baptism date and place input area, is a + sign. If you click that, there is an option to enter notes. I put both godparents' names in there, including other information given in the record, like Johann Breyer (a farmer) and his wife, Susanna nee Guhr, his wife-put in only if it is actually written in the record, which in my grandpa's village in Slovakia, lots was written. In reports it will print near the end, but I find that interesting in that the baptism events for each child are all lined up and I can often see the same godparents all through a certain family (and sometimes not, which is even more interesting; for example why this couple were godparents to the first three children, and a different couple for the next four). Regards, Kris in Texas --- On Sat, 2/14/09, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Godparents To: Legacy Email List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 8:07 PM Hello, I am wondering how various Legacy users enter godparent information. I checked in the archive and see references to an event called Godfather/Godmother, but I don't have that event listed in my events. I realize that I could create such an event, but before I do that, I would like to know how others enter godparent information. For now, I am interested in how to enter a child's godparents. Are there any thoughts on entering this information into the baptism notes or entering it as an event in the Events/Facts area? Also, any thoughts on entering the godparents together as one event or list the godfather and godmother separately? Thank you, Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Many thanks JL, I think I can follow that! At the moment I have a folder for each family, for census, docs, emails etc. Then another folder within My Pics for the photos of each family. It look like I need to combine these and then link to Legacy not store within the programme. Thanks again. Carolyn
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Ron, Actually, I source everything pretty much the way you do! I use the 1930 census for a source for the person's name (or an AKA), date of birth (I of course use abt if I am using an age), their marriage, the relationship of the children to the parents etc. I do have a census event BUT I do not use a separate reisdence or occupation event IF it is spelled out on a census or on an obituary. The only time I would have a separate event for occupation or residence is if the information was coming from somewhere else. For example, one of my ancestors is listed as a farmer on all of the census records and he was. But, he was also a skilled carpenter and made furniture for people in the community. That I have as a separate entry so that I can take the time to explain it more thoroughly. I have never worked with the English census! I think I might take a look at one just to see what the difference are :) :) :) michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I do underestand what you are saying but I just do it differently. You seem to have a census event, I do not. May I take just the head of the family, Henry Bounds: Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule In my records it would appear as: Henry Bounds - Vital Event Name - only sourced to 1930 census if previously not known. Head - not interested and at least on our census not necessarily accurate, since if the husband is away then the wife would be declared as head owns own home - not on English censuses lives on farm - Residence Event, sourced to 1930 census sex - not sourced white - not interested (and would not include it in anyway) Age - sourced to 1930 census as Date of Birth if not previously known, or comment made if it does not compare with previous 'facts'. Marriage age - not on England census and would not include as such, but may enable date of marriage to be calculated which could be sourced to 1930 census. born in MS - Vital Event Place of birth - only sourced to 1930 census if not previously known. speaks English - not on English census, would not use anyhow farmer - Occupation Event, sourced to 1930 census farm, #31 on farm schedule (I think this is all in one) Location field (no pun intended) for Occupation Event and Residence Event. This would cover everything I would wish to extract but in a different way to yourself Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0500 I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Thanks, Jenny - your idea is a good way to keep track of these people!! I appreciate your response. Judy Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. Jenny wrote: But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Godparents
Vicki, You may have purged your unused events. To retrieve them, just select Master; Event Definition; Add; type God Father (without the quotes); Reset; Save. Do same for the event named God Mother. (My thanks to the LUG member who provided this tip.) I created an event named Baptismal Godparents, edited the events God Father God Mother to Baptismal Godfather Baptismal Godmother and use those 3 events. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: v pedersen To: Legacy Email List Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Godparents Hello, I am wondering how various Legacy users enter godparent information. I checked in the archive and see references to an event called Godfather/Godmother, but I don't have that event listed in my events. I realize that I could create such an event, but before I do that, I would like to know how others enter godparent information. For now, I am interested in how to enter a child's godparents. Are there any thoughts on entering this information into the baptism notes or entering it as an event in the Events/Facts area? Also, any thoughts on entering the godparents together as one event or list the godfather and godmother separately? Thank you, Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events
Barbara, He does not say they were numbered automatically. He simply said notice that each household member was given their own number He did that numbering manually. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Barbara wrote: Hello, I have the latest version of Legacy and as a new learner am struggling with source clipboard entry. I also, have listened to the video many many times and am missing something. Geoff says in the video that the names listed in an individual's events from a census will automatically be numbered. Mine are not. What am I not doing? Thanks Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Blank pages
You can also use preview, then print eg: 1, 3-100. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 2/14/09, JLB j...@telus.net wrote: From: JLB j...@telus.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Blank pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 9:00 PM I don't know the answer except to say when my printer spits out blank pages I re-use them. No waste there. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Jane Sarles wrote: In a Descendant Book Report, I get blank pages between the title page, and also between generational sections. Big waste of paper. I cannot see where I avoid all the blank pages. Help? Jane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tracking Individuals
When I run across individuals or families who appear to be connected to my family, I enter them into Legacy as Unlinked Individuals. I then add BDM and event information as I find it, just as I would for a linked person. Then, if I find that they are related to the main line, I have all the data available and I can just link them in. I presently have 21 island trees containing from 1 to 46 people. The idea of entering them into a ToDo list to keep track of them is good; I may have to try that, as I am chronically disorganized. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Judy eldestdaugh...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals Thanks, Jenny - your idea is a good way to keep track of these people!! I appreciate your response. Judy Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. Jenny wrote: But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tracking Individuals
John I add unlinked individuals to my database too. I have 500+ islands at this point. I keep them separate by using Legacy's tags. All the people in my tree are tagged on Tag 8 and all the orphans are tagged on Tag 9. Jim On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM, John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com wrote: When I run across individuals or families who appear to be connected to my family, I enter them into Legacy as Unlinked Individuals. I then add BDM and event information as I find it, just as I would for a linked person. Then, if I find that they are related to the main line, I have all the data available and I can just link them in. I presently have 21 island trees containing from 1 to 46 people. The idea of entering them into a ToDo list to keep track of them is good; I may have to try that, as I am chronically disorganized. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Judy eldestdaugh...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals Thanks, Jenny - your idea is a good way to keep track of these people!! I appreciate your response. Judy Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. Jenny wrote: But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events
Thanks Brian. Obviously, in the many times I heard the CD I did not pick it up. My learning curve must be at a low right now. Barb - Original Message - From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Numbering Clipboard events Barbara, He does not say they were numbered automatically. He simply said notice that each household member was given their own number He did that numbering manually. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Barbara wrote: Hello, I have the latest version of Legacy and as a new learner am struggling with source clipboard entry. I also, have listened to the video many many times and am missing something. Geoff says in the video that the names listed in an individual's events from a census will automatically be numbered. Mine are not. What am I not doing? Thanks Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] screen prints
Hi: A nice program for doing screen prints is SnagIt. It is very inexpensive, and does more than just the normal screen print that one can do with the key board. Deb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
Have you found any program that can do relationships? It is so crucial to genealogy that I am stunned that Legacy doesn't get it fixed after ten years! Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adamsmailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool. I really like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors and has been from at least Legacy 5.0. The most obvious is that, with some multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different relationships are displayed, which is wrong. Less obvious problems can be found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator. I found one case where a generation was skipped. The problems are ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist. Every time I look at it and try different relationships, I find more problems. There was a thread on this subject in Aug 2006. Some of the problems discussed then involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can still produce at least one. I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes a reliable tool. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and son, or between husband and wife! And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close as my 6th GGParents! Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug. Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Naming photos
Hi Cathy, Thanks for the advice. Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Vallevieni Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Naming photos Bruce: I make separate paper copies with each's MRIN and file in their family file, save separate copies of the Census on the computer also using each's MRIN (the computer name and the paper document name are the same so easy to cross reference) and I create a separate Source on the Master Source list for each person's Census event. Bottom line I duplicate the Census everywhere so there's a separate record for each family. This makes it easy to find and orgainzed. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA At 09:18 AM 2/14/2009, you wrote: Hi Bruce, Thanks! Another question with regards to census. I can see doing it exactly as you state if there is only one household that I'm interested in on the sheet/document. But, what about if there are two? Say Bob and Pete Smith are brothers and each have a family and they live next door to each other and appear on the same census page? Would you just duplicate it and have one labeled with the MRIN for Bob and the other labeled for the MRIN for Pete? Or, should I make this census record a Master Source document? Appreciating your help, Brian * Brian, Yes I do. they would be mrin-xMAR-name-description mrin-xCEN-name-description mrin-xBIR-name-description mrin-xDEA-name-description Hope that helps, Bruce On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com wrote: Hi Ken, Thanks for the recommendation. Since I've just started using Legacy I'm not that familiar with the MRIN, but it sounds like a useable system. Do you use MRIN filing method for documents (marriage certificates, census records, etc.) as well? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos Here is what I am doing. Since I use the MRIN filing method, I label all pictures as follows: mrin-xPIC-name(s)-description Where x is H (Husband), W (Wife), C (Couple), or n (for unmarried children where 1 is the first child, 2 the second, etc.) If I have a group photo, I use the MRIN of either the primary person/couple or the oldest person/couple and use F (Family) or G (Group) for the x I am thinking of adding the date taken (or ABT as suggested by another) in part of the name. Just my 2 cents. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations for how to name photos on one's computer? I had started by saving them as last-name first-name date-taken. That works well for pictures of only 1 person where I know the date it was taken. It doesn't work all that well for group photos. Or old photos that I've scanned where I don't know the date it was taken. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Naming photos
Hi JL, Thanks! That is what I'll try. Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos Yes. One for each. Anyway, that's how I do it. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Brian Beddor wrote: Hi Bruce, Thanks! Another question with regards to census. I can see doing it exactly as you state if there is only one household that I'm interested in on the sheet/document. But, what about if there are two? Say Bob and Pete Smith are brothers and each have a family and they live next door to each other and appear on the same census page? Would you just duplicate it and have one labeled with the MRIN for Bob and the other labeled for the MRIN for Pete? Or, should I make this census record a Master Source document? Appreciating your help, Brian * Brian, Yes I do. they would be mrin-xMAR-name-description mrin-xCEN-name-description mrin-xBIR-name-description mrin-xDEA-name-description Hope that helps, Bruce On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com wrote: Hi Ken, Thanks for the recommendation. Since I've just started using Legacy I'm not that familiar with the MRIN, but it sounds like a useable system. Do you use MRIN filing method for documents (marriage certificates, census records, etc.) as well? Thanks, Brian -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Naming photos Here is what I am doing. Since I use the MRIN filing method, I label all pictures as follows: mrin-xPIC-name(s)-description Where x is H (Husband), W (Wife), C (Couple), or n (for unmarried children where 1 is the first child, 2 the second, etc.) If I have a group photo, I use the MRIN of either the primary person/couple or the oldest person/couple and use F (Family) or G (Group) for the x I am thinking of adding the date taken (or ABT as suggested by another) in part of the name. Just my 2 cents. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Brian Beddor bbed...@japsolson.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any recommendations for how to name photos on one's computer? I had started by saving them as last-name first-name date-taken. That works well for pictures of only 1 person where I know the date it was taken. It doesn't work all that well for group photos. Or old photos that I've scanned where I don't know the date it was taken. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp The information contained in this message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, dissemination or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system. Thank you. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene - Original Message - From: CE WOOD To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Have you found any program that can do relationships? It is so crucial to genealogy that I am stunned that Legacy doesn't get it fixed after ten years! Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adams To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool. I really like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors and has been from at least Legacy 5.0. The most obvious is that, with some multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different relationships are displayed, which is wrong. Less obvious problems can be found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator. I found one case where a generation was skipped. The problems are ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist. Every time I look at it and try different relationships, I find more problems. There was a thread on this subject in Aug 2006. Some of the problems discussed then involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can still produce at least one. I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes a reliable tool. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and son, or between husband and wife! And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close as my 6th GGParents! Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug. Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the person related by blood. If the aunt were the one related by blood, it would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt. My 2 cents Mary - Original Message - From: Gene Hutson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene - Original Message - From: CE WOOD To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Have you found any program that can do relationships? It is so crucial to genealogy that I am stunned that Legacy doesn't get it fixed after ten years! Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adams To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool. I really like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors and has been from at least Legacy 5.0. The most obvious is that, with some multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different relationships are displayed, which is wrong. Less obvious problems can be found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator. I found one case where a generation was skipped. The problems are ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist. Every time I look at it and try different relationships, I find more problems. There was a thread on this subject in Aug 2006. Some of the problems discussed then involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can still produce at least one. I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes a reliable tool. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and son, or between husband and wife! And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close as my 6th GGParents! Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug. Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
Actually, the error occurs when the couple involved are the biological parents of the child. Only if one of them were a step-parent and not the biological parent of the child should the spouse be called husband or wife of the Grand Uncle or Grand Aunt rather than by the correct designation. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Mary Hagenmailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the person related by blood. If the aunt were the one related by blood, it would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt. My 2 cents Mary - Original Message - From: Gene Hutsonmailto:fish...@cableone.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene - Original Message - From: CE WOODmailto:wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Have you found any program that can do relationships? It is so crucial to genealogy that I am stunned that Legacy doesn't get it fixed after ten years! Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adamsmailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the Relationship Calculator is, in theory, a great tool. I really like the charts it produces showing the relationships of distant cousins. HOWEVER, I have almost stopped using it because it is so rife with errors and has been from at least Legacy 5.0. The most obvious is that, with some multiple relationships, if you click the Swap button, different relationships are displayed, which is wrong. Less obvious problems can be found if one traces relationships by hand and then uses the calculator. I found one case where a generation was skipped. The problems are ongoing--Legacy has solved some, but others persist. Every time I look at it and try different relationships, I find more problems. There was a thread on this subject in Aug 2006. Some of the problems discussed then involved 1/2 relationships and some of those have been fixed, but I can still produce at least one. I hope that Legacy can do a thorough redesign of the RC soon and it becomes a reliable tool. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Unfortunately, this is not the case. Direct ancestors are not being identified correctly, such as my 27th GGF. His mother is shown as my 24th GGA; his father as my 2nd cousin 23 times removed, and Relationship Calculator says there is no relationship between father and son, between mother and son, or between husband and wife! And that's just one of the messed up ones. It also happens as close as my 6th GGParents! Brian is now working on it, but if anyone else is having problems with incorrect relationships, it would help them find the bug. Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Michele --- I have a question for you. I know this has been addressed on this list before -- so sorry for asking again. But I too transcribe census records as you do. How do you list them in your master source list? Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 Census records under a 1900 census listing? Thanks for your input! Tamie - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship etc) Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS Or a later census (1930)... Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging [2nd word unreadable] Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the census page up easily. Michele - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Michele, I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely duplicate this. Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments in [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the transcribed
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
What error? What child? What correct designation? John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Actually, the error occurs when the couple involved are the biological parents of the child. Only if one of them were a step-parent and not the biological parent of the child should the spouse be called husband or wife of the Grand Uncle or Grand Aunt rather than by the correct designation. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Mary Hagenmailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the person related by blood. If the aunt were the one related by blood, it would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt. My 2 cents Mary - Original Message - From: Gene Hutsonmailto:fish...@cableone.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) must have a child to be related to you. It is their child. If the Grand Uncle and Aunt are the biological parents, they should be designated as the Grand Uncle and Aunt. If one of them is a step-parent of the child, then he/she might be designated as the husband/wife of the Grand Uncle/Aunt. If that step-parent were related through a different family line, then, he/she would NOT be designated as merely husband or wife, but as, say, a 2nd cousin once removed (for instance) or whatever the relationship is through THAT line. The designation husband/wife is normally used when the spouse is not related in any other way to whomever. Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adamsmailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships What error? What child? What correct designation? John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Actually, the error occurs when the couple involved are the biological parents of the child. Only if one of them were a step-parent and not the biological parent of the child should the spouse be called husband or wife of the Grand Uncle or Grand Aunt rather than by the correct designation. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Mary Hagenmailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.commailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com%3cmailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the person related by blood. If the aunt were the one related by blood, it would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt. My 2 cents Mary - Original Message - From: Gene Hutsonmailto:fish...@cableone.netmailto:fish...@cableone.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com%3cmailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
Hogwash. The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) is a brother (or sister) to one of his grandgathers or grandmothers. Whether the Uncle or Aunt has any children or not is irrelevent. My brother is still an Uncle, and related to, my children even though he has none of his own. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) must have a child to be related to you. It is their child. If the Grand Uncle and Aunt are the biological parents, they should be designated as the Grand Uncle and Aunt. If one of them is a step-parent of the child, then he/she might be designated as the husband/wife of the Grand Uncle/Aunt. If that step-parent were related through a different family line, then, he/she would NOT be designated as merely husband or wife, but as, say, a 2nd cousin once removed (for instance) or whatever the relationship is through THAT line. The designation husband/wife is normally used when the spouse is not related in any other way to whomever. Carolyn - Original Message - From: John S. Adamsmailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships What error? What child? What correct designation? John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.commailto:wood...@msn.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships Actually, the error occurs when the couple involved are the biological parents of the child. Only if one of them were a step-parent and not the biological parent of the child should the spouse be called husband or wife of the Grand Uncle or Grand Aunt rather than by the correct designation. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Mary Hagenmailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.commailto:hagen.m...@mchsi.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com%3cmailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I believe that is worded that way is because the Grand Uncle is the person related by blood. If the aunt were the one related by blood, it would be worded Grand Aunt and the husband would be husband of Grand Aunt. My 2 cents Mary - Original Message - From: Gene Hutsonmailto:fish...@cableone.netmailto:fish...@cableone.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com%3cmailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships I think the one that I see the most and still boggles the mind, you'll have your Grand Uncle and then his wife who should be Grand Aunt labeled as wife of Grand Uncle. Just 2 cents, Gene Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
The relationship calculator is all messed up. I have 10th great grandparents only married to each other, never married to anyone else, that show with one side being the grandparent, the other wife of grandfather. This happens in multiple places and instances. In some places where there has been a second marriage I have been able to fix some by changing the preferred status of the spouses but that doesn't always work. The relationship calculator doesn't show 1/2 relationships either. Can't figure out why. I too wish that this would be fixed, as I must use a second program to send send out relationship reports. It is more than a little frustrating. Viv The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) must have a child to be related to you. It is their child. If the Grand Uncle and Aunt are the biological parents, they should be designated as the Grand Uncle and Aunt. If one of them is a step-parent of the child, then he/she might be designated as the husband/wife of the Grand Uncle/Aunt. If that step-parent were related through a different family line, then, he/she would NOT be designated as merely husband or wife, but as, say, a 2nd cousin once removed (for instance) or whatever the relationship is through THAT line. The designation husband/wife is normally used when the spouse is not related in any other way to whomever. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
What program do you use for creating the relationship reports? Carolyn - Original Message - From: Vivian Whitemailto:vwhit...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships The relationship calculator is all messed up. I have 10th great grandparents only married to each other, never married to anyone else, that show with one side being the grandparent, the other wife of grandfather. This happens in multiple places and instances. In some places where there has been a second marriage I have been able to fix some by changing the preferred status of the spouses but that doesn't always work. The relationship calculator doesn't show 1/2 relationships either. Can't figure out why. I too wish that this would be fixed, as I must use a second program to send send out relationship reports. It is more than a little frustrating. Viv The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) must have a child to be related to you. It is their child. If the Grand Uncle and Aunt are the biological parents, they should be designated as the Grand Uncle and Aunt. If one of them is a step-parent of the child, then he/she might be designated as the husband/wife of the Grand Uncle/Aunt. If that step-parent were related through a different family line, then, he/she would NOT be designated as merely husband or wife, but as, say, a 2nd cousin once removed (for instance) or whatever the relationship is through THAT line. The designation husband/wife is normally used when the spouse is not related in any other way to whomever. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Picture Centre
Is anyone else having trouble using the Picture Centre? I sent an email to support a couple weeks ago but haven't heard anything. I run Legacy 7 (up-to-date) on my Vista laptop and XP Desktop. At first I thought it was only a Vista problem as I had used it on XP without any problems. Thinking it was a Vista problem, I sent an email to support outlining the trouble. Now, I find the same problem on the XP. Today I uninstalled and reinstalled Legacy, and no change in the results on either machine. I've run File Maintenance, etc. etc. etc. I want to change a name of a picture. I click on Tools, Picture Center. Make sure the correct person is highlighted, click on attached pictures, select the one I wish to rename, click on rename. Type the full path ie C:\Legacy\Pictures\NewName.jpg Nothing really happens or takes place to let you know that a change has taken place. When you go back to your picture gallery, the dreaded ? is displayed. When you click on it and you have all the options let legacy look browse yourself etc. It has the NEW file name you just created in Picture Center. When you browse the Picture folder the name is still the OLD name. It never changed in the file, but changed within Legacy. I have used Picture Center often to rename photos with no trouble. Somewhere in the last couple updates something has changed. Anyone have any thoughts or ideas? Viv Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
I have just about everything, but Roots Magic does a nice job. (Sorry, Legacy. I wish your program did too). Viv On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:51 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: What program do you use for creating the relationship reports? Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
Gary Templeman correctly writes: Hogwash. The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) is a brother (or sister) to one of his grandgathers or grandmothers. Whether the Uncle or Aunt has any children or not is irrelevent. My brother is still an Uncle, and related to, my children even though he has none of his own. Gary Templeman But your brother's wife is your childrens aunt only by marriage and should be listed as the uncle's wife. Right? Art Seddon Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Incorrect Relationships
Here is a weird one I'm looking at right now 14th great grandfather Eivind Arnbjornson m. to 12th great aunt Koll Great aunt Koll's father is shown as 13th great grandfather and I am a direct descendant of 2 of his children. Eivind's father is correctly shown as my 15th great grandfather and I am also a direct descendant of 2 of his children. Eivind and wife Koll had one child and he is correctly listed as 13th great grandfather. Now, when I use the relationship calculator for Grandma Koll, it shows that she is my 14th great grandmother and 12th great grandaunt. If the program knows the she is my grandmother, why does it display the aunt relationship on the family screen? I'm thinking it is finding the closest relationship which is the 12th great grandaunt instead of the logical 14th great grand mother. Viv On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Art Seddon ased...@artseddon.com wrote: Gary Templeman correctly writes: Hogwash. The Grand Uncle (or Aunt) is a brother (or sister) to one of his grandgathers or grandmothers. Whether the Uncle or Aunt has any children or not is irrelevent. My brother is still an Uncle, and related to, my children even though he has none of his own. Gary Templeman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
