RE: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor
My laptop is wide-screen 1440 x 900, I often use it with Legacy on the right and Ancestry on the left hand side but I am now finding that the Ancestry screen does not adjust properly to the window being reduced slightly. The important stuff on the right hand side of the window is off screen. It is really annoying because there is plenty of empty space in the middle of the screen. Reducing the font size does not help because you get some strange effects so have put to put the font back to default size. Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jim Winfrey Sent: 20 February 2009 22:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor Don, I bought a 24 monitor and it is great to have Legacy and a full screen view of Ancestry.com open at the same time. The way the prices have come down, you can get a great monitor for $300. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] BACK UPS
How many backups should one keep of a file? I have made many with the same file name of Richard Ashby Johnson b 1927. I know in Legacy the date is added to the end of the back-up. When is it safe to delete the older ones, and how long should one keep them??? I don't want to delete anything I shouldn't but fear I must be doing overkill on my back-ups. Please give me some ideas. **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
Kirsten, There is a significant difference in the behaviour sourcewriter between v7.0.0.76 and v7.0.0.86. One should always use the current version. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:12:44 -0800 Sherry: Thanks for checking. It may be a quirk with .76 that was fixed in .86. I tried two from scratch using that template and got the same result both times. No italics in the other templates that I use, though. Guess I need to update. Thanks again. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of S. Fry Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem Apologies for sending this third e-mail, if the first e-mail makes it to the list. The second e-mail DID make the list, but is senseless without the first! I have several sources created with SourceWriter for online books as well as printed books with information in the Comments boxes of both the source and the detail. None of the text is italicized. I created a new fake source to see if something had changed recently. Again there were no italics. I copied these book sources to the Source Clipboard, added them to new events. Never any italics. I have Legacy 7.0.0.86. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Dennis, My description was somewhat scrappy ;-). If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:22:46 -0500 On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson wrote: it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
wrote How many backups should one keep of a file? I think the 3-generation system is sufficient for most people's needs. This means that each time you create a third backup of a file, you delete the first backup For example: On Monday you backup and call the backup Monday. On Tuesday you backup and call the backup Tuesday. On Wednesday you backup and call the backup Wednesday and you delete Monday. On Thursday you backup and call the backup Thursday and you delete Tuesday. etc. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:55:51 + To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS wrote How many backups should one keep of a file? I think the 3-generation system is sufficient for most people's needs. This means that each time you create a third backup of a file, you delete the first backup For example: On Monday you backup and call the backup Monday. On Tuesday you backup and call the backup Tuesday. On Wednesday you backup and call the backup Wednesday and you delete Monday. On Thursday you backup and call the backup Thursday and you delete Tuesday. etc. -- Jenny M Benson Gee, Jenny, if only I was that organised ;-(. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Momalot, Had you thought about looking at an atlas?? I did and Benton also a Benton Station are north east of Chattanooga, Tennessee. I have found it helps to look at an atlas in situations such as this one you have. Ann - Original Message - From: momalo...@aol.commailto:momalo...@aol.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b 1927, sent me to the Benton in Tennessee near Nashville. I know there is something weird going on. I've looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and will continue to read them - project in Legacy along with photos :-). . I'm wondering if there is someplace for me to get an update for the geo-locations? Is it a subscription with in Legacy that I might have signed up for when I bougt Legacy? I cannot remember. What do I need to do? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. H... I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. H... I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
- Original Message - From: GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between single-clicks and double-clicks in the programs Options. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Todd, That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: toddcar...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:36:01 -0500 - Original Message - From: GeoSci To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between single-clicks and double-clicks in the programs Options. _ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:08:59 -0500 On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson wrote: If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. H... I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Sorry, you also have to click add new parents before clicking Close Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ ! _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:08:59 -0500 On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:49:53 +, ronald ferguson wrote: If one clicks on the parents Icon in Family View and immediately close it, then unknown parents and a marriage will be created. H... I can't get that to happen in V6 or 7.0.0.86. There must be a trick. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Dennis, There should be another email from me before this. I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the Add New Parents Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it auto adding unknown/unknown? Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:07:37 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Sorry, you also have to click add new parents before clicking Close OK. But I wouldn't consider that a bug. Legacy didn't do it without the user's knowledge. I agree that in your case it sounds like something else is causing the Unknown to Unknown marriages to creep in. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:16:57 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the Add New Parents Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it auto adding unknown/unknown? In V6 when I click right-click on a top-most individual and click Add Parents... I am taken to a blank Parents List. Then, when I click Add New Parents, Unknown to Unknown gets added to the listbox at the top of the window. Clicking Close or Select takes me back to the Family View. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor
Best thing I ever did was go to two monitors (and one is a wide screen). I have Legacy on one and Ancestry on the other. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:43:49 -0500 On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:16:57 +, ronald ferguson wrote: I am right in thinking that previously when clicking the Add New Parents Button we were taken to a screen which allowed us to do this, instead of it auto adding unknown/unknown? In V6 when I click right-click on a top-most individual and click Add Parents... I am taken to a blank Parents List. Then, when I click Add New Parents, Unknown to Unknown gets added to the listbox at the top of the window. Clicking Close or Select takes me back to the Family View. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Thanks, Dennis Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Windows Live Messenger just got better .Video display pics, contact updates more. http://www.download.live.com/messenger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
I keep mine over a longer range of time, just in case I find critical errors in the database later. If I make several backups in one day, at the end of the day I just keep one of them. But I'll have one for each day going back a longer period of time. This sorts of helps but not really, because if I suddenly find out that things started going awry a month ago and I want to revert that far back I lose any new work since then. I haven't spent much time in Legacy 7 though. Now, there's a method! - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog ronald ferguson wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:55:51 + To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS wrote How many backups should one keep of a file? I think the 3-generation system is sufficient for most people's needs. This means that each time you create a third backup of a file, you delete the first backup For example: On Monday you backup and call the backup Monday. On Tuesday you backup and call the backup Tuesday. On Wednesday you backup and call the backup Wednesday and you delete Monday. On Thursday you backup and call the backup Thursday and you delete Tuesday. etc. -- Jenny M Benson Gee, Jenny, if only I was that organised ;-(. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Well, yes, but if you change to double-clicks you'd be less likely to have this happen. - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Todd, That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
I just hit a land slide in researching my family - and a lot of is on a Polish web site - going back to the early 1800 and I just had to share this good news In a message dated 2/21/2009 10:58:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, j...@telus.net writes: I keep mine over a longer range of time, just in case I find critical errors in the database later. If I make several backups in one day, at the end of the day I just keep one of them. But I'll have one for each day going back a longer period of time. This sorts of helps but not really, because if I suddenly find out that things started going awry a month ago and I want to revert that far back I lose any new work since then. I haven't spent much time in Legacy 7 though. Now, there's a method! - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog ronald ferguson wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:55:51 + To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS wrote How many backups should one keep of a file? I think the 3-generation system is sufficient for most people's needs. This means that each time you create a third backup of a file, you delete the first backup For example: On Monday you backup and call the backup Monday. On Tuesday you backup and call the backup Tuesday. On Wednesday you backup and call the backup Wednesday and you delete Monday. On Thursday you backup and call the backup Thursday and you delete Tuesday. etc. -- Jenny M Benson Gee, Jenny, if only I was that organised ;-(. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
Well, maybe but I rather think I would do it automatically as I usually do when opening files. Actually, the only time I use the clicking the Parents Icon is on the rare occasion when I wish to add a second set of parents, or link an island person to existing parents. Otherwise I usually click the box above the individual in Family View. Which would indicate that this is not where my own unknowns are coming from! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: toddcar...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:51:33 -0500 Well, yes, but if you change to double-clicks you'd be less likely to have this happen. - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors Todd, That isn't really the point. I tend to agree with Keith, that nothing should be entered into the DB unless one physically enters it. Ron Ferguson _ Check out the new and improved services from Windows Live. Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
No reason why you would *have* to lose new work since then. Restore the old database to a different name. Then you could then use the feature to compare two files, which allows you to tag the duplicates. Anyone untagged would be new work that you could export to a GEDCOM. There may be a way to use the modified date to find and tag the entries since the good backup, and there may be other ways to skin that cat too. Of course that will not work if the newer file is totally fried and unreadable, but generally you should be able to pull out most if not all of the newer entries. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: JLB j...@telus.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS I keep mine over a longer range of time, just in case I find critical errors in the database later. If I make several backups in one day, at the end of the day I just keep one of them. But I'll have one for each day going back a longer period of time. This sorts of helps but not really, because if I suddenly find out that things started going awry a month ago and I want to revert that far back I lose any new work since then. I haven't spent much time in Legacy 7 though. Now, there's a method! - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
In ver 6.0.0.190 Deluxe, in the Family View of any individual with no parents in the center a single click in the parent window opens the ADD pop up box for father or mother, depending on location of parent window click a double click adds both a mother father named unknown and brings them to the center of the family view with these parents named unknown unlinking from the child removes them from the marriage list no action adds them to the marriage list - these parents do not show up on the name list, but do show on the marriage list with MRIN I have no imports in my file, but I am way too fast on the double click. I'm sure my unknown MRINs come from my double clicks as I do use a name for all parents with no known name that I need for entry of others, like siblings. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Dennis M. Kowallek To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:07:31 +, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: it is inconcievable that I erroniously entered and deleted a parent as I have never even had a glimpse as to who they might be. As we know, if that is done without deleting the marriage, that is another way of creating an unknown/unknown marriage. Please give the baby steps to do this. I was unaware that there was a way to create Unknown to Unknown marriages other than a GEDCOM import. -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:26:57 -0600, JCTripp jctr...@charter.net wrote: a double click adds both a mother father named unknown and brings them to the center of the family view with these parents named unknown Interesting. I wonder if this is intentional? -- Dennis Kowallek - LTools http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
You're right, of course. With some effort, it's do-able. - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Gary Templeman wrote: No reason why you would *have* to lose new work since then. Restore the old database to a different name. Then you could then use the feature to compare two files, which allows you to tag the duplicates. Anyone untagged would be new work that you could export to a GEDCOM. There may be a way to use the modified date to find and tag the entries since the good backup, and there may be other ways to skin that cat too. Of course that will not work if the newer file is totally fried and unreadable, but generally you should be able to pull out most if not all of the newer entries. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: JLB j...@telus.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS I keep mine over a longer range of time, just in case I find critical errors in the database later. If I make several backups in one day, at the end of the day I just keep one of them. But I'll have one for each day going back a longer period of time. This sorts of helps but not really, because if I suddenly find out that things started going awry a month ago and I want to revert that far back I lose any new work since then. I haven't spent much time in Legacy 7 though. Now, there's a method! - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Wide Monitor vs. Old (4:3) Monitor
I use a laptop and desktop simultaneously. Very useful. At the risk of straying too far from Legacy topics, do the users of two desktop screens use only 1 keyboard? Presumably so. I'm not clear how one sets up the computer to accomodate one keyboard and two screens. Or, how Legacy is seen on both screens at the same time. I'm supposing it's different than simply using the split screen view option Legacy offers. I'd welcome anyone contacting me off LUG to share their expertise about simultaneous dual screen use (family.na...@gmail.com). Thanks Gary O'Fallon IL USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/20/09, momalo...@aol.com momalo...@aol.com wrote: From: momalo...@aol.com momalo...@aol.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:33 PM Is or was there a special package to geo locations when I first got it? I really haven't used it very much yet. It doesn't seem to work right AND when I realized it may only be available in the USA, well. . . . I'll just keep reading and trying to understand it. I do have a computer tech coming tomorrow. My computers may be the problem!!! Thanks to all you Legacy User Group for responding to my many questions. In a message dated 2/20/2009 11:44:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, geosc...@gmail.com writes: Just added an UNLINKED PERSON to test this for you... listed him as born in Benton, , Illinois, USA -- and clicked on the GLOBE. The GEO LOCATIONS system listed Benton, Franklin, Illinois, USA as proper. I double clicked on it - and changed the Benton, , Illinois, USA to Benton, Franklin, Illinois, USA and made the SHORT name Benton, IL and clicked save. It now reads correctly - and - if I go to a map - shows it just east of West City near I-57 Illinois. Seems to work fine! Keith On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM, momalo...@aol.com wrote: My file in Legacy, Richard Ashby Johnson, b 1927, sent me to the Benton in Tennessee near Nashville. I know there is something weird going on. I've looked at the HELP pages in Legacy and will continue to read them - project in Legacy along with photos :-). . I'm wondering if there is someplace for me to get an update for the geo-locations? Is it a subscription with in Legacy that I might have signed up for when I bougt Legacy? I cannot remember. What do I need to do? In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:57:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ge...@cedarbank.me.uk writes: wrote When I tried to find Benton IL it said TN, MS, IA, and OR, yet when I SEARCH for it, Benton, IL comes up in Franklin County. When I try to find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN. Where do I learn more about GEO LOCATIONS? I don't really understand what you are saying. Where and how were you trying to find Benton other than Searching for it? And what do you mean exactly by When I try to find it in Legacy, it sent me to TN? If you click Help or press F1 from the Geo Locations screen it will take you directly to the relevant Help page. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe:
Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors
I am not accusing anyone of doing this, but I do know that I sometimes leave a screen by 'automatically' hitting save, when I have changed nothing nor needed to. There may also be a problem, but I could not duplicate the incident. I am using V 7.0.0.85. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:36 AM - Original Message - From: GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] End of Line Ancestors In my mind - it should NOT happen! A user should have to fill in SOMETHING in order to create an entry - not just accidentally click on a space. Legacy uses many single clicks to bring up all kinds o fneat things - it should not make an entry! Keith I'm not sure, but i think you can choose between single-clicks and double-clicks in the programs Options. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is always open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and have the correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each person. It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank space, and even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if it's correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone whose dates are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's obvious that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure the accuracy of their work. There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a public spot, I want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it. Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some ancestors from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to the story which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of his excellent vocabulary. As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more attention in History class in school. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Careful - there are other reasons for blanks in the middle - not just because someone hasn't done his homework or is too lazy. I have several persons from (according to sources) a certain town in Pennsylvania - but - even with Google - I cannot figure out the County since the town exists in several different Counties. Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM, ci...@treadles.ca wrote: So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is always open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and have the correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each person. It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank space, and even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if it's correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone whose dates are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's obvious that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure the accuracy of their work. There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a public spot, I want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it. Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some ancestors from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to the story which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of his excellent vocabulary. As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more attention in History class in school. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Helen, It is *not* because people haven't done their homework that there are frequently locations with less than 4 fields in Europe. It is because we are not American, and our locations do not fit American conventions, neither historically nor now. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ci...@treadles.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:13:22 -0500 So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is always open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and have the correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each person. It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank space, and even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if it's correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone whose dates are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's obvious that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure the accuracy of their work. There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a public spot, I want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it. Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some ancestors from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to the story which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of his excellent vocabulary. As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more attention in History class in school. Helen _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Ron, I seem to have missed the point here. I have locations any where from three to six fields. They're entered exactly as they appear.. Will this cause problems? If so, then I must learn to deal with them otherwise the locations aren't accurate. Or are you talking about depending on the Geo Locator only? Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
You are correct. I answered separately for an off-site discussion. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 2/21/09, ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca wrote: From: ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 1:13 PM So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is always open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and have the correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each person. It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank space, and even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if it's correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone whose dates are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's obvious that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure the accuracy of their work. There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a public spot, I want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it. Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some ancestors from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to the story which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of his excellent vocabulary. As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more attention in History class in school. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Hi Rich, I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the Northumberland, England come up together. But bland commas, never! Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Art Seddon - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Gad, gotta fix my spell checker!!! Art - Original Message - From: Art Seddon To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Hi Rich, I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the Northumberland, England come up together. But bland commas, never! Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Art Seddon - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Where are you looking, Art? If you look in the Location Master list for Cramlington, Northumberland, England and click the globe you will see Cramlington, , Northumberland, England - I pasted that, copied from there btw. Didn't try the others. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ased...@artseddon.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:16:31 -0800 Hi Rich, I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the location list set to sort fron right to left so I end up with all the Northumberland, England come up together. But bland commas, never! Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Art Seddon - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. Rich in LA CA _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Ron, Your previous post strongly implied that if there were spaces then the location was incomplete. Yes, it did. What I'm trying to say is that the appearance of the address with two commas, to an outsider, one who has no knowledge of Legacy, the Geo Locator facility or British geography, could easily wonder what was supposed to go or had originally been between the two commas. I know I did. I've seen double commas with French, German and Dutch trees and to me it looks like someone hasn't bothered to complete the address. When checking out the town name in Google, I'll often come across a more complete address. All I'm saying really is that double commas can cast a shadow on the credibility of the tree owner. Yes, I always check any trees I might find on line but when there's a choice of two or three, I'll chose the one that appears the most credible. And if the credibility is 100%, then I'll write and offer everything I have that ties in with that tree. I simply enter the place name as is and the number of fields be damned. BTW London is London, England - and because I'm more or less from Manchester that is Manchester, England as befits our second city ;-). Strange, I always thought it was the Pool. (-: Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance. What does Australia have? Provinces, states? And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll enter - Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work from there or plod through Google.. It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's geography. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Seems, like we are pretty much in agreement (apart from the Pool), I think you will have gathered that I do more or less the same as yourself. With some, the problem of comma/space/comma arises through trying to make a location fit a pattern which wasn't designed with our (and other) locations in mind, because they think this is how it should be done, rather than through lack of care. Personally I use your approach of entering the location as accurately as I can and pay little or no interest to a synthetic convention. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ci...@treadles.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:56:05 -0500 Ron, Your previous post strongly implied that if there were spaces then the location was incomplete. Yes, it did. What I'm trying to say is that the appearance of the address with two commas, to an outsider, one who has no knowledge of Legacy, the Geo Locator facility or British geography, could easily wonder what was supposed to go or had originally been between the two commas. I know I did. I've seen double commas with French, German and Dutch trees and to me it looks like someone hasn't bothered to complete the address. When checking out the town name in Google, I'll often come across a more complete address. All I'm saying really is that double commas can cast a shadow on the credibility of the tree owner. Yes, I always check any trees I might find on line but when there's a choice of two or three, I'll chose the one that appears the most credible. And if the credibility is 100%, then I'll write and offer everything I have that ties in with that tree. I simply enter the place name as is and the number of fields be damned. BTW London is London, England - and because I'm more or less from Manchester that is Manchester, England as befits our second city ;-). Strange, I always thought it was the Pool. (-: Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Helen, Our set up is somewhat more complex than that and has been revised many times over the centuries. Only the county of Yorkshire had Ridings and these have now gone. I recommend http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm for a detailed explanation of the history of our locations. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ci...@treadles.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:02:56 -0500 Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance. What does Australia have? Provinces, states? And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll enter - Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work from there or plod through Google.. It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's geography. Helen _ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Which town? and a name of a person? Maybe I know someone. Elizabeth C GeoSci wrote: Careful - there are other reasons for blanks in the middle - not just because someone hasn't done his homework or is too lazy. I have several persons from (according to sources) a certain town in Pennsylvania - but - even with Google - I cannot figure out the County since the town exists in several different Counties. Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM, ci...@treadles.ca wrote: So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. What's wrong with using Google? If I'm working in a foreign country, Google is always open and minimized so it's handy to explore where my ancestors came from and have the correct name, township, county, province, state, canton, country, etc. for each person. It also indicates someone who hasn't done his homework when there's a blank space, and even when the middle location is provided, using Google will check to see if it's correct. I've caught several errors that way and when discovered for someone whose dates are in the 1700s or before, I don't go any further with that tree because it's obvious that either they've copied the data from someone else or are too lazy to ensure the accuracy of their work. There are so many misinformed trees on the Net that if/when I put mine in a public spot, I want it to be as accurate and credible as I can make it. Using Google too can be a great learning experience. I recently discovered some ancestors from Sleepy Hollow. Googled it and had a wonderful look around. That lead to the story which I greatly enjoyed and to more of Washington Irving's stories because of his excellent vocabulary. As a good friend and fellow genealogist once said, I wish I'd paid more attention in History class in school. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
IN the USA - you have States - Counties - then it can get odd. In the East you have Townships and Boroughs - but within the townships you often have Villages -- for example Maytown is a village within East Donegal Township, Lancaster County. In Delaware - we have hundreds - a leftover from colonial days - areas that (at the time) contained 100 families. We have no townships. Cities are usually separated from the townships. In the WEST - you can have sections using a system of township and range numbers. In short - the 4 system does not work as well as many think - even in the US! But is can be worked with... I often list Township [Village name], County, State, USA or City (or borough), County, State, USA . Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:02 PM, ci...@treadles.ca wrote: Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance. What does Australia have? Provinces, states? And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll enter - Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work from there or plod through Google.. It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's geography. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Ron, If the mapping don't find it I move to it manually. I have all of those entries show up correctly on the map. I have the information that I need with no extra garbage and everything is easy to find. Maybe a little more work, but the results are worth it. Cramlington, Northumberland, England is at N550513.78 W0013519.723 Art - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Where are you looking, Art? If you look in the Location Master list for Cramlington, Northumberland, England and click the globe you will see Cramlington, , Northumberland, England - I pasted that, copied from there btw. Didn't try the others. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: ased...@artseddon.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:16:31 -0800 Hi Rich, I find that the following all work just fine. for sorting I have the location list set to sort from right to left so I end up with all the Northumberland, England come up together. But blank commas, never! Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Art Seddon - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations What do you think should happen? As far as I know, it works the same wherever, but some countries have apparently more distinct locations, and use more or less fields to define them. So using four fields for USA places, forces me to make most of my Europe ones have a blank field in the middle. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
ci...@treadles.ca wrote: And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll give you an example. I am from the Hamlet of Montrose in the township of Cortland Manor in the county of Westchester in the State of New York in the U.S.A. That would be Montrose, Cortlandt Manor, Westchester, New York, USA Thats 5 place names and it is in the USA so you can see that the 4 place format doesn't always fit here either. But 4 places is a reasonable compromise and you can set your reports to eliminate extra commas so I see no problem with people unfamiliar with Legacy ever seeing an extra comma. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
The US has townships, sometimes boroughs, within counties. Some cities, like Richmond, VA, do not have a county, and in Philadelphia, the City and County merged over 150 years ago. My husband, however, grew up in a township. Elizabeth C ci...@treadles.ca wrote: Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance. What does Australia have? Provinces, states? And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll enter - Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work from there or plod through Google.. It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's geography. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
And your example does not even include street addresses, which I must have. For one grandfather, I have over 20 addresses within a mile or so in Philadelphia, and just using the city would be no help at all. Elizabeth C Gene Young wrote: ci...@treadles.ca wrote: And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll give you an example. I am from the Hamlet of Montrose in the township of Cortland Manor in the county of Westchester in the State of New York in the U.S.A. That would be Montrose, Cortlandt Manor, Westchester, New York, USA Thats 5 place names and it is in the USA so you can see that the 4 place format doesn't always fit here either. But 4 places is a reasonable compromise and you can set your reports to eliminate extra commas so I see no problem with people unfamiliar with Legacy ever seeing an extra comma. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GPS coordinates for cemeteries and burial plots
I just dealt with this issue by putting the coordinates of the cemetery in Coordinates field at the bottom of the Burial Address input screen. I put the coordinates of each gravestone in the Notes portion of the Burial PLUS SIGN data. Hope that's clear. Jim On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Tracy Skegg tracysk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Listers I'm preparing for a two week holiday where I'll be visiting family (living and deceased) and I'll be using our new beaut GPS thingee which provides coordinates for your location, not just how to travel from A to B. I want to put down the coordinates for any cemetery (maybe the entrance) I'm visiting and also the coordinates for each burial plot for my relatives. At the moment I've got one set of GPS coordinates to use as testing but I'd like advice from others using this feature before I enter these details enmasse. I see only enough room in any address or location field for one set of GPS coordinates either the cemetery or the burial plot - how can I enter both into Legacy? Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Finding blank census forms
Am needing a nudge in the right direction to find the blank census forms that can be printed out. I've found the CENSUS FORMS heading in the Help topics and it tells me where to find it.however I find no such path in my v7 Deluxe... The instructions are : From REPORT menu, select FORMS CENTER. Clik the plus sign to the left of CENSUS to view all the census categories. Clik on desired census form and PREVIEW it. etc, etc. This doesn't work for mefrom either of the 2 toolbars across the top of my screen, the easily seen REPORTS tab shows no CENSUS FORMS heading. I have 6 headings I can select : Reports Menu, All Reports, Auxilliary Reports, Publishing Center, Legacy Charting and Go To Last Report. The first selection, REPORTS MENU still has no CENSUS FORMS within it, you are on an individual page, not a forms page. Where is the correct REPORT MENU to locate these Census forms ? Thanks for assistance...MegG Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Finding blank census forms
Try this. First click on the Reports icon. One of the tabs will be Books/Other. Select it. At the bottom left, you'll see Forms Center. Select it. CENSUS forms dhoe up on the next screen. Works for me - I'm using V7.0 Jim On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Meg Greenwood scotques...@bartnet.netwrote: Am needing a nudge in the right direction to find the blank census forms that can be printed out. I've found the CENSUS FORMS heading in the Help topics and it tells me where to find it.however I find no such path in my v7 Deluxe... The instructions are : From REPORT menu, select FORMS CENTER. Clik the plus sign to the left of CENSUS to view all the census categories. Clik on desired census form and PREVIEW it. etc, etc. This doesn't work for mefrom either of the 2 toolbars across the top of my screen, the easily seen REPORTS tab shows no CENSUS FORMS heading. I have 6 headings I can select : Reports Menu, All Reports, Auxilliary Reports, Publishing Center, Legacy Charting and Go To Last Report. The first selection, REPORTS MENU still has no CENSUS FORMS within it, you are on an individual page, not a forms page. Where is the correct REPORT MENU to locate these Census forms ? Thanks for assistance...MegG Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Finding blank census forms
Reports - Books/Other [Tab]/ Lower left corner (Forms Center) -- Pick + before Census Forms Keith On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Meg Greenwood scotques...@bartnet.net wrote: Am needing a nudge in the right direction to find the blank census forms that can be printed out. I've found the CENSUS FORMS heading in the Help topics and it tells me where to find it.however I find no such path in my v7 Deluxe... The instructions are : From REPORT menu, select FORMS CENTER. Clik the plus sign to the left of CENSUS to view all the census categories. Clik on desired census form and PREVIEW it. etc, etc. This doesn't work for mefrom either of the 2 toolbars across the top of my screen, the easily seen REPORTS tab shows no CENSUS FORMS heading. I have 6 headings I can select : Reports Menu, All Reports, Auxilliary Reports, Publishing Center, Legacy Charting and Go To Last Report. The first selection, REPORTS MENU still has no CENSUS FORMS within it, you are on an individual page, not a forms page. Where is the correct REPORT MENU to locate these Census forms ? Thanks for assistance...MegG Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Found the blank census forms.. only 1 for UK?
A, Got it now ! However now that I know where these reports arethe UK forms are not as I'd expected. Only one form for all the various years of censuses ? I saw no further breakdowns like England Wales, Scotland or Ireland. I know where to get these online that are blank reproductions of the original forms, I may have to rely on those and scan them in as an image. Are we to enter the UK data into a form thats more of a generic type than being the actual census format ? Or am I still not on the same page as everyone else ??? England and Scotland's information can pretty much be input into the generic form even though its not absolutely correct. But Ireland 's 1901 and 1911 Census will not fit into the form well at all. Thanks to Jim, Keith and Gene for being so fast with their replies ! And I'd looked at this page but didn't 'see' the right button. Probably because I wasn't expecting it to be there. MEG == Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS
I think the most important thing about backups is to make sure that they are not all kept on the one computer. A hard drive may fail, or a computer stolen or lost somehow, such as fire. I keep backups on other computer and on a USB stick. Also giving copies to other family members is a great way to ensure the files are not destroyed. Also, if possible keep track of what information you have entered and then if you need to use a backup you know what you need to enter again. Mark -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2009 7:24 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:55:51 + To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com From: ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BACK UPS wrote How many backups should one keep of a file? I think the 3-generation system is sufficient for most people's needs. This means that each time you create a third backup of a file, you delete the first backup For example: On Monday you backup and call the backup Monday. On Tuesday you backup and call the backup Tuesday. On Wednesday you backup and call the backup Wednesday and you delete Monday. On Thursday you backup and call the backup Thursday and you delete Tuesday. etc. -- Jenny M Benson Gee, Jenny, if only I was that organised ;-(. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Twice the funShare photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
- Original Message - From: ci...@treadles.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? Most states in the USA have counties and then the counties can be further broken down into townships. However, Louisiana doesn't have counties. They have parishes. I'm not sure if parishes are broken into smaller pieces or not. Personally, I only use townships when I don't know a city/town/village/etc. or if they lived out in the boonies and city/town doesn't apply. Todd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Helen (ci...@treadles.ca ) writes: Tindale Terrace, Farlam Parish, County Cumberland, England Cramlington, Northumberland, England SegHill, Northumberland, England Heathcote, Rodney, Victoria, Australia Lot 403 MEMORIAL GARDEN, Fairhaven Memorial Park, Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance. What does Australia have? Provinces, states? And what does the USA have within counties? Do they have townships? I'll enter - Brandesburton Parish, East Riding Yorkshire, England Moore Township, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada but in the USA I usually have to find the Genweb site for that state and work from there or plod through Google.. It's repetitive entering the word township and county all the time but makes things a lot clearer (and more educational) for those unaware of that particular country's geography. Helen Most of the USA has townships subdividing the counties, but they are seldom noted in locations except for legal description of real property. When appropriate or required I use the abreviation 'Twp.'. I normally use the 'city, county, state, USA' convention within the USA, except in those cases where a city does not have a county and some other special cases like 'Washington, District of Columbia, USA' - there is no county involved in D.C., which is technichally not a state either. And I try to use the local convention in non USA locations. I'll let someone from OZ give the conventions there. With grandparents from Australia, England and from Illinois before most of the counties were formed it is being quite an education. Art Seddon Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
We have two Territories as well and Tasmania.{;-)
Colin.
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From: Laurence E Stephenson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Art Seddon wrote:
Minor problem here - I know that Canada and the USA have counties, Canada
has townships within counties, Britain has in some cases Ridings and/or
parishes within counties, but I'll admit my ignorance.
What does Australia have? Provinces, states?
Australia has Town or City, State, Country
Hampton Park, Victoria, Australia.
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Regards,
Laurence E Stephenson
http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/lauries/web/index.html
I am Researching:-
Butcher...Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Fortune...Berwickshire, Scotland
Garlick...Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mee...Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine)
Payne.Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England
Ritchie...Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
StephensonPickering, Yorkshire, England
Wittick.. (Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England
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